/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

t, seething 2%er forever annihilated by Pekola

>>53641635
Go back

KEK nijifags trying way too hard now, deflecting the part where holos like pekora is winning I see.

There's no significant news in niji aside from le graduations that you'd rather search about the holonews.

Holochads, we can't stop winning.
Nijifags can't stop whining.

>>53641564
The wall has been breached, males collab is the new normal now
it's over

Newfag? Botan already collabed with male before.

NIJIFICATION OF HOLOLIVE HAS GONE INTO FULL GEAR

Who cares, it's just a cross promoting platform for all parties involved, pure business.

>>53641719
yeah but not this frequently, she had a big male collab just a month ago, and now this...

>>53641664
Back where?

>>53641728
>Hololive member interacting with male content creators
>"Nijification"
Nijiniggers be inventing their own terms, you sissies really this desperate to stay relevant?
Yeah I'm asking this because 1.76 million subs Salome pulled fewer CCV than 0 subs Pekora's mom

>>53641798
Newfag, she already had even before that.

>>53641798
She's reaching the end of her womanhood, just let her find a man.

>niji insecurities deflection thread
concerts doko?
sponsors doko?
ambassadors doko?

>>53641728
there was no nijifaction from the start delusionalchama...

>>53641564

>>53641998
let me change the word
>frequently
to
>often

>>53641728
>NIJIFICATION
Sisters... if hololive nijifies, then what's the point of niji existing anymore...

>>53642095
they will inevitably merge in 2030

Nijifags getting scared huh? If Holomems start to collab with the famous male streamers that Nijis have been leeching then it's all over for them after all

>>53641635
>>53641688
>>53642020
>>53642145
what the fuck are you fags talking about lmao
I just posted this shit cause I thought it would be funny bait for unicornkeks

holofans then
>lol nijicucks
holofans now
>MALE COLLAB IS FINE

what went wrong?

>>53642270
Why are vspofags like this? Are you so angry at your girls constantly getting shit on by FPS fags you have to take it out on the group they leeched from?

>>53642306
>holofans then : lol nijicucks
>holofans now : MALE COLLAB IS FINE
Both (You)

>>53642270
I love hinano

>>53641564
Even worse for Unicorn fagaloons, Holostars will have representation and could possibly interact with Button for the first time. Look forward to Her dominating the docile and polite JP axel

>>53641564
It's ok because JP.

>>53641564
>laplus, botan, towa, matsuri, fubuki, roboco

oh no let me pretend to care

>>53642388
nta but 774fag here
watching you big two tribalfags duke it out on the log 24/7 will never not be funny.

>>53642801
No wonder you take happiness in that, your group's dead with its two biggest talents leaving one after the other

>>53641728
hololive is just returning to its roots. I wonder if any of the post-sankisei "no males" members will walk in the next year.

>>53641564
Botan already had an anti unicorn argument in the past newfag

>>53642690
You forgot about Nene.

>>53643216
yes but she hasn't been participating in male collab for years until 3 weeks ago

>>53642270
mama is cute

>>53641564
Well, fuck, at least this time there's no Korosan

>>53643216
when?

>>53643430
>Le redemption by ignoring males for a while
This shit will never exist, anyone that defends male collabs after the big hololive rise in popularity will always return to the dick

>>53642136
They gonna graduate more than debut at the rate this year.

>>53641564
>thinking anyone else in holo cares about VCR besides the ones who already collab with males
Sorry. Stars and Stars-friends only. Even VCR knows when JPschizos are annoying.

>>53641635
FPBP

>>53643882
Hololive would be better off without the gender segregation girls.

>>53641564
as usual along with his insatiable lust for cocks OP reveals that he doesn't watch streams. Truly pathetic, there's more to the hobby than manufacturing drama on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>53643693
It's not that, it's that collabs used to be banned and now they're not.

>translate

EOPs and their mentality have been a disaster for the chuuba enjoyer race

>>53643882
There was also talk of Kanata, but then there was the minecraft incident

>>53644066
You're the only one cuck here who doesn't ask questions.

>>53641564
What does VCR stand for??
I'd guess its GTA RP or am I dumb?

Koyori is the last bastion...

>>53644112
They were literally never banned. Show me at what point in time Holos did not interact with Stars, males, or males from other companies.

>>53644275
Vtuber Crazy Raccoon, I think. But yes, it is a GTA RP server.

>>53642556
>Axel
>Docile
>Polite

Latter one may be true but the former? El-mao, he's gonna have his nee-san perms.

>>53644275
Vault Room of Crazy Raccoon, they had a RUST server a while back

>>53644461
>Vtuber Crazy Raccoon
V stands for VaultRoom. The server has nothing to do with Vtubers because it's mostly filled with bog standard streamers.

>>53642270
remember this next time you click "start a thread," actual vtuber discussion died for your twitter screencap garbage

>>53644461
>Crazy Raccoon
They're at it again.

>one of the many MO of nijinigs is homobegging/forcing male discussions to deflect or to channel seethe
>exactly like
>>53642270
>stop wondering why you're being called one, disgusting faggot

>>53644414
not counting RM shit, who else is safe to say that they're still unicorn friendly? okayu? watame? shion aqua flare luna lamy chloe? haachama?

>>53644461
>They were literally never banned
Well, yes, it would be strange to them openly talk about it, but if you look at things soberly, the ban was present. It's enough to look at Subaru or Coco, for example, who first thing after graduation went to stream with men.

>>53641635
Man, we're getting to the point you give a shit about a content and only care about shilling and numbers.
That's really sad.
>>53641688
Enjoy your male GTA RP collabs!

>>53644461
>They were literally never banned
I don't know about men, but Coco was banned for collabs with HoloEN. What makes you think collabs with men were allowed for everyone?

>>53644917
Ties into my rrat that there are unicorn manesans in Hololive.

>>53642690
add korone to the list of people now you're ignoring. she did a full 7 days, 40 hours collab with males and then played among us with them off-stream.

Reine started playing valorant out of nowhere, and before that Nene said that management told her to diversify her content with valorant. Is it all connected, is it a conspiracy? Management is forcing talents to kill unicorns ?

>>53644849
Subaru was just done with Leechmoto because he's a horrible person
>>53644917
Because Matsuri and Towa have been collabing with males and have never stopped? There is no reason to think that these two can do whatever the fuck they want while other girls get heavily restricted by the management

>>53645057
Why off-stream ? How do you know that?

>>53645182
>There is no reason to think that these two can do whatever the fuck they want while other girls get heavily restricted by the management
Coco exist, and you're just in denial

>>53645148
unicorns don't give as much money as faceless hoardes of merch drones

>>53645148
The only way for hololive to keep growing is reaching the mainstream, they are afraid of VSPO becoming the number 1 by collabing with fps and e-celebs

>>53645405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE

>>53645405
this is a bad move, japanese celebs are known for sexual scandal, it's not gonna end well

>>53645363
There may be still hope for this industry.

>>53645572
it's gonna end well for us dramafags

>>53645405
grim

>eops pretending to know shit again.

It's not like coco's ban has anything to do with taiwan yab and actual chink raids and spams right? Nene always play fps game since her debut too so she is diversifying with the same genre of game?

>>53641564
Meanwhile
BlackSanji
> every month = graduation = new gen = bot paid= back to graduation
Endless repeat

>>53644666
>/vt/
>/actual discussion/
LMAO

>laplus and now Botan went on Towa route
I am expecting Ayame, Takane Lui, and Shion to follow

>>53645871
>shion
not gonna happen

Gta6 is at least a year away.

>>53645871
Ayame seems more like Aqua. I haven't seen anything on her seeking the company of male streamers and just wants to grind rank in whatever game she's obsessed with currently.

>>53645930
Shion is in the Lap/Towa camp. She's just completely dishonest.

>>53645871
>all of them quite popular with the ladies
makes you think
also reminder that customers in """anime""" shops are overwhelmingly women too, getting a good core of women fans is more valuable in the long term than short term fat stinky cheese gyudon bucks

>>53645930
at least she's one of the smart one for not doing this shit on her holo account

>>53644699
>thinks every thread posted ever doesn't have falseflaggers
>like moi
Not everyone who posts threads is an active participant in your culture war kek

>>53641635
fpbp

>>53643092
Considering hololive as we know it wouldn't exist withough GTA, "returning to its roots" has a much bigger meaning than you think.

>>53645990
women are as menhera, i doubt they would want to watch their oshi playing with males too

SSRB, explain. Is your oshi getting some? With how she has been working on herself, womb tattoo talking... What's going on with Botan these days?

>>53645871
>Ayame, Shion
Same with Aqua, they only play with males offstream. Look into their account.
>Lui
Wasn't she supposed to be the one to play in the CR SF6 tourney instead of Botan? She dipped out of that so I'm guessing she won't try to reach out to males.

>>53645871
>botan
>now
Pic related was 3 years ago
You are a falseflagging retard that doesn't watch hololive

>>53646089
she's just pulling a lamy. she made her money and she doesn't have to pander any more.

>>53641635
fpbp
Holochads stay winning

>>53646089
ssrb didn't express their feeling about male collab, so now she thinks it's ok

>>53646124
Read >>53643430

>>53646216
Thanks for confirming it retard

>>53645990
Not to mention pandering to kimoota makes you look bad to normal people. Collabing with popular male streamers will make that bad image disappear and they'll get fans from those normie streamers too, this is definitely the way to go because Holo is mainstream now

>>53646216
Oh no, not the loud minority. Nobody cares. Cry some more on here. It'll surely change things.

>>53646262
she stopped it for years but now? 2 big collab within 1 month? isn't that weird?
>>53646301
you seem to care

*UPDATED*
List of Holo E-celeb designated collaber:
Natsuiro Matsuri
Tokoyami Towa
Shishiro Botan
Lap+ Darkness
Inugami Korone

List of Holo Male collaber (new era):
Tokino Sora
Azki
Hoshimati Suisei
Roboco
Akirosenthal
Shirakami Fubuki
Amane Kanata
Hakui Koyori
Amelia Watson
Mori Calliope
Takanashi Kiara
Ninomae Inanis
Ouro Kronii
Nanashi Mumei
Hakos Baelz
All of Hololive ID

>>53646351
>Hakui Koyori
?

>>53646268
>this is definitely the way to go because Holo is mainstream now
I wonder about that. I still remember K4son talking with someone who brought up Marine and K4son immediately shut down that person and said "let's not talk about Hololive". That was about November, December last year. Has this changed or might Botan and Koro now be the exception?

>>53646351
you forgot Pekora Marine Noel Polka

>>53641564
honestly I wish botan will find a bf
she already almost 50
I'm usually a unicorn but this is just too sad

>>53646351
>E-celeb designated collaber
Fucking disgusting whores.
>Holo Male collaber
Nothing wrong with this though. Idols do talk to males, that's normal but E-celeb streamers are vulgar sex pests.

As per usual, I bet most of the larping unicorns here never watched them anyway. You could always just find an indie if you’re in desperate need for attention

>>53646514
this. the JP stars are basically the same as the JP holo girls, but male.

What did the Niji organs do this time?

>>53646640
Botan is collaborating with males again

>>53646640
Graduation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLWGkxZt5Lk
Which makes it the 5th one in less than 30 days

>>53646717
>nijiID
literally no one cares

>>53646473
Marine Noel
What ??

>>53646744
They are part of the main branch now. You should care because it makes your black company look pathetic

>>53646351
If you are going to include Kiara for professional/sponsored male intereaction atleast include IRyS because she collabed with Dokomi founder and catboy.

>>53646747
They collab with men

>>53646747
at pekora's request. flare was the only sankisei smart enough to find a way to back out of the collab.

>>53646747
pekora's 2m celebration hypnosis ojisan lewd off-collab in 3d studio, they actually touched
https://www.youtube.com/live/KyCAITT8iSA?feature=share&t=1127

>>53641564
Salami bullied by Pekora deflection thread.

>>53646956
When ? Where ? Bait ?

>>53647107
>>53647045
>>53646973
Ah ok that doesn't count then

>>53647172
They literally got fondled on stream. How does that not count?

>>53647172
JPcuck...

>>53647204
shhh let him cope

>>53647204
He's a professional. Idols do that all the time

>>53647219
>>53647206
No one care about some old fart getting close to them , i only feel threatened when it's one of those ikemen who got their popularity from seducing girl online .

The reality is that Botan needs to hunt up a new audience sector because almost 100% of her slav audience is dead or dying in Ukraine/Russia

>>53647299
>professional groper is ok

>>53647336

>>53647336
They literally performed soft sex acts on that stream.

>>53646351
>Hakui Koyori
Get my wife's name out of your filthy lying mouth you fucking faggot.

>>53647396
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME

>>53642270 (me)
>129 replies
And with that, I can effectively call it a win on my end

>>53647336
If some ojisan did hypnosis play and then pumped wasabi down my oshis throat on stream I don't think I would ever look at her the same way again. And that stream was meant to be a thank you to the fans. What the fuck was she thinking?

In this history of this board, has there ever been a post worth looking at that included the text "tick tock?"

>>53648352
Did anyone draw doujins about this event?

>>53648352
>that stream was meant to be a thank you to the fans
Only in your head. JPs have always been unappreciative of their fans.

>>53648352
In the eyes of the japs, it's just standard celebrity variety tv bullshit. The guy is the go to for dumb hypnosis bits.

>>53648451
I saw some koikatsu when it happened but I didn't save any of it

>>53648476
Japs are literal cucks so of course they think it's normal to see their oshi groped by random men. Thankfully western unicorns don't stand for that shit.

>>53648400
never has a board been in bigger need of wordfilters

>>53647368
Yes? Idols get groped and eat bugs for contents, the point is they're doing it professionally

>>53648352
because anyone who has a functional male brain knows there's no chance of anything actually developing from that
it's completely different from hitting it off with some successful young guy in the same circles/age group

>>53648647
You're awful, what's wrong with you?

>>53648647
I don't know man, I just don't want to see that anyway.

>>53648706
And you're a fucking retard, so I guess this was a productive interchange

>>53648476
>>53648647
Don't care, this ojisan had his hand on the back of pekos neck whilst he gave her his wasabi surprise, he could probably see her tonsils as he coated them. He manhandled all of them that stream and It was disgusting to watch.
If she wanted to do variety content I don't believe for second they couldn't have picked something less NTR charged than
>ugly bastard is going to get you all compliant and docile and make you swallow his wasabi load
If the japs don't care then I guess this one is a win for western fans

>>53648647
They didn't need to even hit it off because he got all the sexual favors he wanted in front of the cameras and you had to watch.

>>53648771
You're really projecting your fetishes there. Anyone who actually cares about Peko's heart being stolen wouldn't be bothered by this.

Can someone remind me when simply playing in the same server as anyone else was considered a "collab"?

>>53645871
you don't know about Shion...

>>53648890
I bet she can still taste it...

>>53647172
If it makes you sleep better at night...

>>53648893
When it's invite only and you make the choice to enter it knowing full well who's going to be on it.

>>53648893
Yeah, they pretend they don't see each other and there's no interaction, retard.

>>53648877
>sexual favors
>no sexual activity
I don't want to use the term virgin as an insult but...

>>53649023
Anon, this is a massive server filled with nearly as many women as it is with men. They arnt "collabing" with everyone on merit of being on the same server. Thats like saying you're hanging out with your entire village when you go out for a walk.

>>53649097
Groping isn't a sexual activity?

>>53648893
>implying schizos care

>>53649150
I know they dont care. I was just cuious as to when the term "collab" started to get misused by them

>>53649145
it could be but I don't see how it's relevant here

>>53649134
>Thats like saying you're hanging out with your entire village when you go out for a walk.
Completely retarded analogy. You do not choose where you live with the express purpose of interacting with the people in the vicinity.
They are making the choice to have male streamers as part of their content by joining the server because the point of the server is to interact with the other people on it.
If you're fine with that then that's fine, but don't try to claim that their content isn't changing or that actually the male streamers are not relevant to anything at all because they mostly interacted with women.

>>53649348
Their content isnt changing, ya big dumb faggot. And nothing you can say can get over the fact that existing in the same space as someone else isnt a "collab".

150 posts DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Fuck this shitty board.

?

>>53649456
jannies blackholing reports on their own bait threads, only on /vt/

>>53649348
>oh my gawd sister did you hear Vtuber-chan moved to Tokyo? There are totally, like, MEN living there!!! How could she choose to do that?

>>53649452
You dum dum, even the vtubers would disagree with you.

>>53649452
So going from having no male streamer interactions on stream to having them is not a change?

>>53649500
Your retarded analogy will not become true just by repeating it.

>>53649506
>"n-no u..."
roru

>>53641688
Too bad she's not sucking your dick anon

So what happened to "impromptu collabs" all the sudden? Do they just not exist anymore?

>>53649525
Plenty of them have had male interactions on streams simply on merit of playing multiplayer games. Literally no difference. And I am glad you have swapped from "collab" to "interaction". We're making progress with your dumb schizo ass

>>53649592
Matching with some random and never talking to them is not the same thing at all, idiot.

>>53649525
>So going from having no male streamer interactions on stream to having them is not a change?
Yes it's a change, and it's not just to Botan, but to many other talents in the recent time

>>53649616
>Its okay to be around them if its random!!!!!
Strange qualification that you put in there.

>>53649588
thought they died off a couple of years ago. part of the reason i stopped watching holos

>>53649616
Why are male interactions okay for you if it is random?

>>53649456
this is EN board, your JP has no rights here

>>53649679
Personally, I hate men in voice chat. Even if they are randoms, so I prefer streamers to switch it off.

>>53649721
The fuck does that have to do with anything, retard?

>>53649750
A real unicorn wouldnt accept them doing anything with even a "random" chance of male interaction

>>53649646
>>53649679
They're not seeking them out and they are not interacting with them beyond the scope of the game. Talking to people on RUST and GTA is beyond just playing a game with randoms.
How do you still not understand this? Is a random male that matched with a holo in Apex going to become the central character of some clip series? No they're fucking not. They're nothing but a name on the screen and nobody actually evens know if they're male.
Looking forward to your next retarded argument.

>>53648893
because it leads to this sort of thing every single time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP3woCfO9_U

>>53647368
hey thats me!

>>53649756
cry more, jpshit

>>53649765
A real unicorn would kill their oshi for reading superchats because those are messages from men.
This is what you unironically believe.

>>53649769
>a dude getting happy over Yuri interactions
He's just like me!

>>53649767
So, you are dramanigging over a hypothetical "clip series"? What a waste of your life.

>>53649804
>acknolwedging males on stream
Well yeah. Real Unicorns would never

newfags go die

>>53649842
Why are you deflecting and not explaining how a random from matchmaking is exactly the same as talking to a male streamer?

>>53649894
Good to know you're just retarded. Get a tripcode so I can ignore you.

>>53649932
Its in the presence of a male. That is what you are so upset over isnt it? Why is it better random than it is not? Surely you should be pissing and shitting yourself over them putting themselves in a position for "random male interactions" in the first place

>>53649985
Its almost as if nobody but you cares
Take your meds

>>53649985
How do you know it's a male?

>>53650023
most of the server is going to be made up of male ecelebs

>>53650006
Im not the one making a thread crying about it, schizo

>>53650062
I'm talking about matchmaking with a random person who doesn't talk. How do you know they are a male and how is that person equivalent to having series of exchanges with male streamers through voice chat?

I can smell it, it's jealousy. You pay money for your oshi to read your superchat but these streamers can just talk to your oshi for free and they might even hit it off and go out to have dinner irl like Mafu and Rushia

This gtarp shit is peak cringe and she will have to deal with males trying to force their 'story' on her. Kidnapped for hostage for bank heist etc.
It's over

Has Miko ever played any other GTA other than 5?

>>53650443
>trying to force their 'story' on her
h-hot

>>53650348
That's how it starts, and I remind everyone that youtubers date youtubers. And by not resisting these collabs, you're all inadvertently playing the role of cupid.

>>53650348
It's not my oshi who's there. I'm purely arguing against the people who are talking about how their oshi will be a pure little lesbian while playing on the server.

>>53650498
I'm gonna jerk off to it

>>53650551
They're holoJP. There's literally no reason to worry.

>>53650627
>He doesn't know lol

>>53642270
nicely done but can we get a containment thread like this going for the whole gta arc please?

>>53641564
Miko is literally the gta Holo, why didn't she got invited?

>>53641564
I have no idea what that tweet means but I'm 100% sure you're a faggot

>>53650348
No shit it's always been jealousy (and that's a good thing) If it can keep hololive turning into a mixer for the girls and various eceleb guys

>>53650718

>>53650718
Maybe she was invited but decided not to go. Why would only Botan be invited anyway? Probably several of them were invited, or possibly it was a blanket invitation to all Holos sent through management.

holofags are so easy to bait topkek

it's ok when holo jp does it

>>53651168
(OP) I'm living the dream here, man. I was expecting maybe 12 replies then archive. Here we are with 200+ and still going lmao. I love this fucking board sometimes

>>53651296
>200+ replies
all me btw

>>53641564
>need express permission from developers to stream games
>expects to be allowed to play in a modded server that the publishers of gta explicitly hate

>>53650718
miko GTA collab is like the ultimate vtuber death flag

>>53641564
>>53642270
I find this obsession with "owning the unicorns" far more strange than unicorns themselves.

>>53651742
Both are retards, people shitting with male collabrators are just shitposters being retarded, while these guys think they are making fun of "le incel" both of them think they are baiting the other.

>>53651742
It's morally acceptable to shit on unicorns because of how they treat every other non-holo vtuber int he industry.

>>53652417
So true, sister.

>>53644461
>They were literally never banned.
Not relevant to the current argument, but Hololive x Holostars collabs were banned until September 2019

>>53652417
And we're not even touching yet the diabolic standards and punishments they latch on to holomem. A certain angel had to look like a retard trying to appeal to these nincompoops.

>>53652759
Oh god I had repressed that memory. Jesus christ standing in the corner staring into the wall and mute because there were males speaking

You know, now that I think of it...Shindo Raito may have been the catalyst for the anti-male sentiment in Japan that later on gets imported into the west. You all know the tale right? His...whirlwind time at 2434.

>>53652842
One of my Seven had to accompany her.

(It was Chloe)

>>53652417
>treat
You mean like never watch them or care about their existence? I think you're projecting since holo seems to live rent free in your head. Those people just don't want holo to become like niji etc.

>>53652855
Maybe you should stop thinking. That shit is way older than vtubing.

>>53641728

I would be more worried about the "hololivefication" of niji.
The process started with Mayuzumi leaving and they are still paying the price of this content shift on a 2% contract

>>53652855
try with less "I AM A NEWFAG LOOK AT ME" the next time

>>53646351
Ya forgot Mel and Polka

>>53645148
Riot has been throwing money around JP streamers to play valorant for a while.

>>53641728
>EVERY CORPO THAT COLLABS WITH MALES IS NIJI
You know nothing about vtubers, stop embarrassing yourself and fuck off

>>53652417
>every other non-holo vtuber
>he thinks being a holo makes them immune to being shit on by them

>>53641564
Cope.

Beyond whatever shitty bait thread this is I am seeing a weird shift this year. We went from having only Towa and Matsuri playing 24/7 with males (and the ocasional fubuki collab with holostars) to Cover hiring laplus who is the new bastion of holo male e-celeb dick chasing normification.
In the span of a year we went from that to seeing pekora bring the hypno ojisan, marine with the seiyuus, kanata in that minecraft event (even though I believe it was an honest mistake), korone and botan participating in that SF tourney, Mel interacting with holostars, suggesting nene to play valorant… and in many of these events there were other holos involved (for example Chloe was in that minecraft collab with kanata and I think pekora was there too). I’m a holofag and I honestly don’t condemn any of this but it’s pretty hard to not see there’s some kind of shifting happening.
Since holoX debut it feels like what was extremely rare and limited to 2/30 holos suddenly is on its way to be a normal thing that half the talents do.
It’s too sudden to not think there’s something coming from management to some degree.

>>53651742
Nah it's just cope from you knowing that 99% of people would/will laugh at and shit on you guys for getting attached to online women you don't know. There is no scenario at all where anyone would find the non unicorns worse.

>>53660376
Unicorns forced them into a golden cage but now they are too big and can break out
Simple as, you need to mentally ill if you think normal people want to treat the opposite sex like lepers and live in fear their entire professional life

>>53660376
You're just mental.

>>53660782
What are you talking about, anon? The idol industry itself has done that to a t for years and caused no drama or god forbid criminal cases whatsoever

>>53660376
Hololive is too big to fail now, and can coast off on brand recognition and previously acurred good will.
It's also good for the mental health of the talents to be able to even talk to men, people like FBK are huge into Marvel stuff and you can tell she was very happy to interview Jared Leto.
Of course that came off more as an awkward meme, much like La+ interviewing the twilight vampire guy. But you have to think about from their own perspective, they're famous and extremely successful streamers backed by a multibillionare corporation, it's understandable they'll want to reach out to men they themselves ideolize or look up to for their acting roles or singing or what not.

>>53660376
Please newfag go back.

.t 2018 oldfag

>>53660376
>use an easily exploitable group to grow
>get too big to fail and/or make enough money to be set
>dump the undesirables
Many such cases

>>53660376
Hololive has become mainstream. Like actually, on the telly, on billboards, across worldwide stages sort of mainstream. They're too big to really subject themselves to entertaining a singular form of audience. In the entertainment industry, if you want to reach global levels of power and fame, you need to expand your horizons and reach out to what the rest are doing and dip your feet into their business, henceforth making it part of your own. Collaborations with all kinds of people female, male, some random blue hedgehog, will become normal because... It's normal in almost every other form of media.
That's just how it is.

>>53661040
I agree with you and for example Fubuki doing that interview with Leto was fine. I don’t think there’s anything bad with it just like I don’t think the hypnotist was something bad or the seiyuu thing or the minecraft and sf events. The problem is that all of this started to happen coincidentally just after holox debut. We went from 0 to 100 too fast to think it’s just a coincidence.
As you said hololive is too big to fail now and they’ve got popular even with normalfags so they don’t need unicorns or gachikoi. They could start going vspo and after a short turmoil everything will continue as if nothing happened, but the company shift is real or at least I don’t think all the stuff that didn’t happen for around 3 years after they went the idol route when holo fantasy debuted just started to happen now and it’s just a funny coincidence.

>>53641564
>GTA RP
This is somehow worse than RUST, I know that GTA RP is huge for western streamers but I will never get it.

>>53661449
This.
It's the one thing unibros will always hate to admit. Expansion to a worldwide audience necessitates appealing to them. Literally the same shit happened to comics. Marvel does not make money from dedicated collectors/readers dumping all their cash for issue variants and novelty figures anymore, they make it from familiarity from the billions of normies who watch capeshit. Holo is approaching its early capeshit phase, and this will naturally alienate the original audience. Whether it fails or succeeds is yet to be seen. But the objective truth is that success on the nromie side is infinitely financially better than the present coasting on unicorn cashcows.

>>53662417
Man this shit makes me sad. I just want normalfags out of my hobbies. I want hololive to be successful but not at this cost. I’m not even a unicorn but I do love hololive for what hololive has been ever since I started watching it. It’s not perfect but it’s what I like and now I’m gonna have to sit and watch how the company goes the normalfag route just like gaming and like marvel, as you mentioned.

>>53647045
>>53646973
This is disgusting, what the fuck

>>53662706
It's not that I don't want that too. But when it's between what we want and what the company wants, you don't even need to ask who comes in first.

>>53662836
part and parcel of being an idol unironically so why are you surprised and disgusted? This is what idols do in japan

>>53641564
>ITT:

>>53662941
This kind of shit is why I never seiyuufag-ed/idolfag-ed when watching anime. Just wanted to watch cute girls man.

>>53662881
The only hope is that the company doesn’t really force the talents to do stuff but they can indirectly point them to do that kind of things. In the end is gonna be up to the talent but even if the majority of talents stay in the idol side Cover’s shift means they will start looking for normalfag zoomers to attract normalfags and zoomers, which means they will start hiring more lapluses. In the end the talents who made hololive hololive will become a minority and when they start graduating then the hololive we love will be no more.
I’m gonna support my oshi until the end but I’m afraid of what’s happening and honestly I look at the future (7th gen) not with hope but in fear.

>>53663511
JP7 is the make or break gen for the future of Hololive. Depending on what they do in their first 6 months will give us an insight into the direction cover wants holo to go. But I'll admit, it's not looking pretty.

>>53662941
why should anyone stop feeling disgust after learning that is what idols have to do in japan?

>>53663899
>after learning
this is a weeb board, you shouldnt post here if you dont know very umm obvious things about nip land

>>53663744
If we see a lot of valo tinder zoomers I’m gonna start shitting my pants. Keep in mind that a lot of talents until now may have restrained themselves from doing male collabs only because of the holo box pressure. If they don’t feel that pressure anymore they will start doing them because it’s normal (just like ID or like it was for hololive before gen 3). The sad part is that as the time goes probability is zoomers are gonna get in and nip zoomers love valorant and offpako discords (just like the current zoomers in hololive). Future looks grim indeed.

>>53660376
>even though I believe it was an honest mistake
lol how generous of you, you absolute danger

>>53661449
>>53662417
Hololive on the way to becoming homogenized slop that loses everything in its efforts to appeal to everyone? I really hope not.

>>53661449
Oh yes give up on everything that that got you to the top. Eventually you know what is gonna happen right? They gonna peak. Normies will get bored. And the loyal fans won't be there to break the fall. We are seeing this happen to Disney with Marvel and Star Wars.

>>53650718
She has no connection to VCR (Vaultroom x Crazy Raccoon)

>>53651035
She participated in the CR Cup recently and this GTA server is run by Vaultroom and CR

>>53641564
Oh hey more Vaultroom kino. Can't wait

>>53650718
Sensitive girls aren't allowed for a server like this, she might actually cry if nothing goes her way

>>53650718
>>53651035
VCR sends invites to the corpos (hololive, holostars, vspo, nijisanji , 774, etc.) and then the talent interested just needs to request joining to their managers. if approved they join if not well, they seethe and cope. Its that ez.
Its designed to prevent people from latter claiming they were "blind-sided" or "forced" into them when backlash or no-positive-numbers scenarios knock on their doors. They just run the infrastructure after all.

>>53650718
If she makes negative comments about male collaborations and then shows a positive attitude toward male collaborations, the internal collapse of the fan base will begin.
To begin with, MIKO does not interact with Japanese streamers.
Laplace and Botan have been interacting with streamers since before they joined Hololive.

250 posts DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Fuck this shitty board even harder.
>>53641564
>deleted
Fuck jannies, too.

>>53668743
>>53649456, even

>>53666118
We know this is what happens but companies still do it.

>>53668362
Botan did it because it was part of her job to some extent. Laplace does it because she’s wants e-celeb dick.
Fuck fps zoomers. Forget about the unicorns, homobeggars or whatever; the real problem is allowing fps zoomers in. External shit don’t have any influence in company’s culture but if you start to get those people in they’re gonna destroy it from the inside.

>>53641664
holoboard twitter shitter

>>53642270
Kek, you felt called out enough to reply to all their posts and falseflag with some other corpos' chuuba. Looks like they hit the nail on the head.

>>53654966
>gets mad when holobrony language is used against xim
niji used to be holo "lite" but now holo is niji2.0 lmao how the tables have turned

>>53641564
They don't plan to hide it anymore? lol

>>53669379
It's just a fucking meet up which only lasts about 10 days or so, take your meds you fucking idiot

>>53671904
Two weeks actually but yeah.

>>53641564
Okay

>>53671904
You have to read before replying.

>>53641564
Why do you care? They’re not going to fuck you.

>>53641564
>Botan unicorns
Is there such a creature?

>>53677191
No, I don' think I will.

>>53663744
Laplus used the clout she's gotten from being in Holo to get into e-celeb circle and got away after doing that. There will be the same kind of girl joining Holo to do exactly just that and the thing is, it's not financially bad for Cover, those girls will bring in normies and that's exactly what Cover wants.

>>53641564
I'm glad Botan will get use out of her 1 remaining egg

>>53660782
>>53652759
>>53652417
>>53652842
>>53660668
Tempusanjisisters, don’t look!

>>53641564
Botan is tired of waiting and needs to be impregnated NOW.

>>53683576
We'll never like Tempus no matter how much you push your cringy 'Tempusanji' shit fucking Holonigger

>>53684258
Didn’t half of you nijisisters leave for tempiss after Milord betrayed you?

The thing about Botan is that she's 100% trying to get some dick. Oh well...

>>53679006
I wasn't a unicorn but I didn't think she was such a desperate slut.

>>53682331
>>53664690
This is why holo unicorns are the most retarded vtuber fans in the planet. They never take a step back and look at the bigger picture. 5000 normies spending $5 on small merch/membership/supa once a month has more worth to cover than unicorns who spend $1000 on supa every week. The future has looked grim from the very beginning, ever since Yagoo thought about expansion.

>>53686230
>I wasn't a unicorn but
Then you are.

>>53684463
>go through the most recent vods
>highest overlap with vox was 9%
Oof there goes that rrat

>>53687619
Obviously you left en masse after that February yab, sis

>>53687776
>zero reading comprehension

>>53687399
B...but we're supposed to be better than the Nijifucks, we're supposed to not care about money so why would Cover pander to the normies?

>>53687399
The "bigger picture" is that having more people like Laplus who will just keep weaking the box by reaching outside instead of inside will result in a smaller audience in the long run.
Might as well just terminate Holoearth development now.

>>53688037
>no counterargument
Tempusanjisis…

>>53688396
>>53687619

>>53688642
Stop cutting yourself for Hex sis, maybe you’ll be able to think more clearly

>>53688200
>people like Laplus who will just keep weaking the box by reaching outside instead of inside will result in a smaller audience in the long run
??? What kinda fucked up logic is that? People like Laplus bring more new fans in, making the box BIGGER

>>53688758
>no counterargument
Troonicornsis...

>>53688847
It doesn't make it bigger when the rest of hololive content is completely different to her's.
She appeals to the crowd that goes on about vbuta and vtubers themselves being all trash. Hololive is the main target of those insults specifically because they won't collab with male streamers to keep a certain part of the audience happy.
Your average Jun or k4sen viewer will not be watching hololive concerts and big hololive only collabs. That content is exactly what they hate.

>>53688200
Again, missing the bigger picture. That scenario is IF they fail. IF they can't get a new audience. If you're aware of what Cover's main force (Sora, Suisei, Korosan) have been doing for months, you'd know it's nothing like you suspect. Normie expansion is working. The old holobox will be replaced by a bigger, more lucrative holobox. And that will keep happening until the entire planet is covered by the holobox. Only then will cover rest on their laurels.

>>53689223
>That scenario is IF they fail. IF they can't get a new audience
No, that scenario is specifically if they get a new audience. That new audience would rather jump on some twitch streamer dude's channel after the Laplus stream ends rather than watching more hololive, because Laplus is on the streamer server and not the hololive server.

>>53689120
>Your average Jun or k4sen viewer will not be watching hololive concerts and big hololive only collabs
Maybe, but some might become fans of Holo. But the thing is there is nothing to lose, unicorncucks will do all the mental gymnastics they can to justify the Holomems collabing with males and becoming more like Niji or whatever, they're not going anywhere, the Holo box will not become weaker, that's why there is no reason to not expand to the wider audience.

>>53689223 (me)
>>53689120
And you're right to some extent. But my point is that shit will not stop cover. When has audience perception ever stopped cover? They're going to breed a new brand of idol fan the same way Love Live did. "Seiyuus pretending to be idols" should not have worked but it fucking did. They perform in the fucking dome for crying out loud. And a few of them are married/in relationships too and can get away with it because they're only pseudo-idols. And it still fucking worked.

>>53689620
>unicorncucks will do all the mental gymnastics they can to justify the Holomems collabing with males and becoming more like Niji or whatever
That's not even a real thing outside of this board. You can look at a certain person fired from hololive and how they lost all their Japanese unicorns with only the coping westerners left.

>>53688888
Sis, don’t act as if half the tempusanji roster didn’t release pride month statements…

>>53654022
Then tell me, when did it start?

>>53692326
the idolshit audience

>>53660782
Exactly what I said too. But in time...they will be freed. Pol would reunite with her old buddies.

>>53661449
Hey, he's not just some random hedgie! He's a childhood bud!

>>53661040
>twilight vampire guy.
That was playing Batman btw. The name is Robert Pattinson. And yeah, this anti-male faggotry needs to die in a fiery ditch, preferably now.(lightning strikes)

>>53683576
Yawn. Anything else?
I like Holos. I like Stars. I like Nijis. I like Roca. What then? Hyperfocusing on the Stars and Niji part, then? Predictable.

>>53692754
So truuuuuueeeeee discord sister! The more liver organs our Milord and Pogman can leech from via collabs, the better!

>>53692529
My bad then, I forgot about that. I still think Raito's shit accelerated that thinking nationwide, then worldwide. The whole mindset of "if they're on screen together they're fuxking behind it reeeeee". And the "they're all sexpests" mindset.

This...is what catalog idolizes.

>This retarded shit actually reached bump limit
All of you, drink bleach, now

>>53693566
(OP) wait it did?! Let's fucking go, dude!

>>53646123
>ayame
she could take her pick and chooses to play with vta shitters? i really don't get it

Bet you wished collabs with holostars was a common thing than this, huh?