/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Oh yeah. Let's go.

>>53524371
hana's VODs aren't coming back

schizos will make nene quit heh

One thing I can see staying even after the solo concert is this schedule. Kind of funny how she only maximized streaming 13 times a day to make sure we stayed around and now she wants less of us and to stream less. She's going to eventually go and prioritize her ambition over time with chat, altho she has so far. It'll be like Suisei's schedule or lack there of.

>>53524872
With how much she jokes and baits about graduating, will anyone believe her when she says she's graduating? or care

I love agency vtuber (virtual YouTuber) Ms. Lua Asuka of Production kawaii Generation 2 (novamore)
https://youtu.be/tisDJbuJQ6c?t=15557

https://youtu.be/6wxCuq2OltE

Maybe it's because I do not particularly play the game but even just watching, does anyone else find Overwatch boring

>>53525129
>will anyone believe her when she says she's graduating
She says that if she had an actually serious announcement that she'd make it very clear from the start, and that anything else is just trolling, as unprofessional as that is. Otherwise yeah, she's creating a 'boy who cried wolf' sort of proo

>>53525358
>proo
The fuck? I meant problem

>>53525358
She creates her own problems and when she isn't her fame is. How she built her channel is causing her problems and she's trying to pull back how much she streams and asking Tomos to keep a distance. I love my oshi, but she may yet push people off a cliff.

>>53525129
>suisei
don't worry, just because you have ambition doesn't mean you have talent. She will just fail at whatever her new channel direction is and go back to hard GFE + 2streams a day once the money dries up

What is a Twitter circle and why does it matter?

There's no reason for this extra vacay other than she recreated the problem with fanbox where she could've done a little less streaming over time and solved the work load. The difference is she can't delay concert prep and act like an ashamed child.

being a kektomo must be rough lmao
good luck with whatever Nene is doing, I guess

Isla in the OP! Blessed baker kun.

https://youtu.be/IFWNufn1CVM

>>53525415
>proo

>>53525898
I love Nene, but Nene is ruining the experience for me and like, she complains about the schizos, but created them and then gives them this power by acknowledging them and taking away time and content from her fans. She makes her choices and I'll support them.

It's kind of liberating complaining about Nene here and blowing off steam since she closed off fanbox and maros. I love her, but she can learn to deal with criticism.

Nami loves overwatch

every time nami says oh hell yeah in that deep voice my balls tighten up

>>53525349
anything is boring for you anon that’s why

>>53525349
it's extremely boring

>>53525801
it private tweets for small group i think groomers tried to get nene in one something

Nami boobs

TWITCHtomos heh

>>53527292
They should just pay up for the onlyfans and join the cosplay pl private discord group.

>>53526166
>she complains about the schizos, but created them
This is like saying that Isla somehow created doxxers. Stop acting like every vtuber fan was a pure angel until le evil vtubers corrupted him.
Tell me which schizos did Nene create directly?

>>53525349
I’d rather watch Smite if I’m being forced to see MOBAshit

>>53527402

>>53527698
>which schizos did Nene create directly?
all of them
if she wasn't so cute and perfect they wouldn't exist

>>53527698
me

>>53527698
Me she deleted my oshi's vods after an innocent fan art.

>>53527698
she deleted fanbox and didn't fulfill hana's vods

i love shee

>>53526331
Meh i told her in the stream chat fuck it if she bans me for stating a obvious truth. Then so be it she needs thicker skin more subs are not going to drown out hate thats some serious fools gold type of thinking. I say it because i love her and while she does not want to hear it she needs to hear it for her own good.

>>53528231
she's not going to hear it, she's going to laugh at you and kick you out of the hugbox

>>53525766
Now that's not fair, Nene's very talented and ambitious. She can create skill with work

I doubt that some of you faggots our cloudtomos if you think that Nene's only appeal is coombaiting and clickbaiting. I don't watch her because that laugh is killing me but I watched her enough over the past year and a half to see that she is a great entertainer and pretty wholesome too. And she admitted that a lot of those coombait thumbnails were managements idea.

What the fuck is Nene talking about? Got it halfway through

>>53528821
>if you think that Nene's only appeal is coombaiting and clickbaiting
no one in this thread has even expressed that sentiment

>>53528353
Well she did hear it loud and clear and always does for the most part. She might not always like it when i give her a dose of truth about her neuroticism but fuck the hugbox mentality shit. Truth over pretty sweet lies dayo

>>53528821
So Kawaii is a black company that tries to turn out the girls at any chance and pushes coombait against the girls wishes?

>>53528821
I watch her because she's entertaining and talented. I just appreciated the cool, actually meaningful content she used to do. I miss how close the relationship was, even if it was parasocial it wasn't harmful. This isn't about coom and clickbaiting. It's about pushing back fans and cutting us out as she pursues her ambitions, we're not her ambition or passion.

Nia should graduate and prism out

>>53528972
>black company for suggesting certain style of thumbnails
I'm done with you, drama tranny retard. If you're baiting you suck at it and if you're serious, you are arguing in bad faith right off the bat.
Every single youtuber ever literally says that sadly clickbait is the name of the game. Algo quite literally favors clickbaiting. Feel free to google it and you will see what I'm talking about.
Even big news agencies "clickbait" with sensationalist headlines and titles and then when you read the article it turns out to be a nothingburger in most cases.
Saying that Kawaii is a black company for that reason is fucking hilarious. But keep reaching tranny.

I better not catch you retards responding to bait

This serious talk makes me feel kinda guilty I abandoned Nene for another GFE and only watch her sometimes now, I don't deserve her telling me she loves me

Isla my beloved... I need to drink your pee...

Nia should join Kawaii

>>53529271

>>53529175
>Every single youtuber ever literally says that sadly clickbait is the name of the game. Algo quite literally favors clickbaiting. Feel free to google it and you will see what I'm talking about.
Even big news agencies "clickbait" with sensationalist headlines and titles and then when you read the article it turns out to be a nothingburger in most cases.
I can't believe you typed all of this shit out when I didn't disagree or even mention any of this. All I asked was whether you think management forced Nene or any of the other girls to use coombait, and whether you think that's right or wrong. I'm not arguing whether it's effective or not because it obviously is. You acknowledge the bait is an underhanded tactic, but tried to deflect the blame onto management as stated:
>And she admitted that a lot of those coombait thumbnails were managements idea.

can you not reply to the blatant samefagging neneschizo

>>53528821
>she is a great entertainer and pretty wholesome too
this
I pray Nene and Lua will be successful at getting a twitch audience and breaking the dependence on GFEschizo groomers
add in Nami's new clique connections and Reina shilling to non-vtuber fans its only a matter of time
KAWAII INCLINE

>>53529540
>management suggested
>BLACK COMPANY
What are you 10 years old and can only speak in /vt/ buzzwords?

you absolute no life faggot every single day you come to pkg and shit up the threads with shitty nene bait /same/fagging for half the thread neck yourself you fat piece of shit
wtf did Nene do? did she not appreciate your shitty suicide bait mallows you spergy retard?

>>53529602
replying to bait until bump limit is basically a thread tradition at this point. /pkg/ is open season for threadshitters and trolls

>>53529609

>>53529680
You are clearly unemployed and or underage if you seriously believe that management "suggesting" something means they are giving the employee an option not to do it. It's the same as being "volunteered" to do something

What if the people responding to and making the baits are the same person?
What if I was one of them?

>>53529852
Ok if Nene has no choice in the matter explain her long running Umineko series that gets shit numbers and that management is not a big fan of.
Or do you maybe think that a few thumbnails here and there are waaaaaaaaaaay more valuable than an entire series that lasts forever and doesn't perform great numbers wise.

>>53529268
it’s ok Kain. We know you were enjoying the gunpla building stream.

Did Nami just kick someone from the game

>>53529998
I never made the claim that management is forcing Nene to make every stream coombait you baboon. I only responded to the anon saying that the coombait she does do is because management forces her to. The coombait shit does do numbers especially when it comes to ASMR

>>53530033
isnt he married to? kek

>>53530139
suggesting and forcing is not the same thing. and that ape immediately brought up BLACK COMPANY like a typical /vt/ tranny sister that likes throwing that buzzword around completely out of context

>>53529268
It's okay.
Nene was the one who got me into Kawaii and small corpo EN in general. I still have her member and she's the oldest membership I have but I do like shee more after watching all of them for a while. There's nothing wrong with Nene neither and I still catch her stream, I just have a type.

stop whining at look at Shee

>>53530306
In the case of an employee/employer relationship, it is the same thing. Employers like to use euphemisms a lot to make it sound nicer when they want their employee to do something. You'll learn that when you get a job someday. Also clearly the "black company" part was to trigger the SJW types (like you) and it clearly worked. So mad over one phrase get some help.

>>53530456
I will do anything to protect this precious smile

Nene is going to end up drifting from the gfe route if this keeps up, people like Andrew who cant hold they're shit together. Its partly her fault because the way she presents things is very intimate and close and its easy to fall in love with her and feel like you're "close" and different depending on how she treats you. Ive never seen her pushing away like this tho, do something must be bothering her outside of dumb tomos

>>53530306
>throwing that buzzword around
>typical /vt/ tranny sister
lol.
lmao, even.

>>53530958
something must've happened that she didn't want to go into details about

I wish Nami would drink while playing this, imagine how much more funnier she'd be

>>53531601
She's going to say some gamer word if she plays overwatch while drunk anon....

>>53531731
I want Nami to tell someone to dilate

>>53531761
I forget, why is saying dilate a nono again?

I think Reina got captured in Ukraine

With how often Nene raids Nami it's weird Nami hasn't grown much

>>53531761
She did that while sober

>>53530958
I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing a push away and I hope she doesn't. I liked the parasocial relationship Nene had with her chat and I think with boundaries it can be a positive thing for both parties and has been.

>>53531041
>something must've happened
she took one look at all the tomos that were at the concert and ran from GFE heh

>>53530877
>"black company" part was to trigger the SJW types
You are just shockingly stupid. Pointing out that you are thowing out buzzwords like a retard, after dozens of retards already did it because of the gen3 situation somehow makes me a "SJW". Btw who the fuck uses "SJW" in 2023 anymore. You are clearly a board tourist. Just go back to wherever the fuck you came from trannoid.

>>53531978
Nami is growing at her own pace, she mentioned that she doesn't want to grow by burning out or doing something she dislikes so she can stay longer, she will only numberfag if it aligns with what she wants.

>>53532106
Not that anon but yeah i hope she does not stop it would break my heart. But like you wrote boundaries are a must going forward as more new people find her channel.

>>53532155
she already knew what a lot of tomos looked like before the concert, she said she even recognized some in the crowd

Every rant Nami has about how unfair Blizzard is to Mercy players makes me want to masturbate

>>53532165
That's not the point, she gets raided often by the most popular member in Kawaii but doesn't grow much from that, I guess cloudtomos just don't stick around, I subbed to her though

>>53532349
> every rants Nami has makes me want to masturbate
FTFY

>>53532318
do not bite the bait please that is a known shit poster

>>53532301
>>53532106
>>53530958
I've noticed it too. Probably inevitable as she scales but unfortunate. Catching up on the VOD now to see what she actually said.

>>53532318
>she already knew what a lot of tomos looked like before the concert
do tomos just post selfies of themselves on Twitter or something?

>>53533031
A few of them showed up the animentc booth.

>>53533031
Yes, actually and a few showed up during the animeNYC booth

>>53529268
I am going to have to make a hard choice between Nene and the return of green woman next year

>>53532486
why would cloudtomos watch nami?
maybe lua shee reina but nami/charzu no

>>53533562
Out of the non-Nene girls, Charzu has held my attention the most. She's really entertaining. Her stream times are just inconvenient for me.

>>53533562
you're dropped there by Nene so often might as well at least subscribe, right?

>>53532932
I kind if figured as she gets bigger it might happen, but i hold out hope she doesn't forget what got her to where she is.

>>53533031
Yes several tomos have profile pics on twitter and a couple showed up during anime nyc tho they had covid masks on, not all of them are ugly or fat so i dont think that would scare her away

>>53531969
starting ww3 is NOT what we meant by demon pawa

would you get a license plate with your oshi's name on it?
https://twitter.com/charsuzu_kawaii/status/1680311411795447808?t=l5gIXai-qjeS6v3dcZK4Mg&s=19

>>53534342
Id thought about it but having just Nene seems pointless

Something to think about, eventually Nene's gonna encounter the last thing she wants by pulling back on the parasocial relationship she encouraged with chat. That is, people openly watching or even supporting other vtubers. We can say we're gonna support the one most talented and amazing that we believe in, but there's truth to the fact that people oshi the person that makes them feel happy and feel loved. I used to see a few CloudTomo in Terumi Koizumi's chat. and I'm gonna be sad for Nene when she's bitching on stream people cheat on her. Not that she'd have the right to, she's the one putting up the fence and hoping she'll take off and make up for the fans she loses.

>>53534839
>in Terumi Koizumi's chat
So Terumi and Riifu are Cloudhomo's alternatives? A hermaphrodite and a literal whore? Grim.

>>53534839
I refuse to simp just a friend so she better not get cold feet about being. Cloudtomos internet fiancée doing so would torpedo her future as a Vtuber forever

https://youtu.be/_SBBtksxDeg
She's extra cute when she's being extra pathetic

>>53534342
Charzu can drive?

>>53535580
That's

>>53535586
>>53534839
Nene cornered the fucking market with her gfe why is she trying to fuck this up for herself?, if she goes the we cant be friends route i'm going to anti the fuck out of her

I want to drink Isla choccy

>Don't think too deeply.
It really did go in one ear and out the other. It's almost like you fags actually want her to pull back completely.

>>53535819
Drinking Isla's chocomilk straight from her teats

why not post the anti parasocial clip if you're gonna schizo out about this

>>53535712
No, she likely means she is in an uber.

>>53535888
Those are schizos and/or sisters. They probably didn't even watch the stream.

>>53535942
A lyft actually

>>53535603
weina being the butt monkey on stream but the main character irl is fascinating

>>53535888
She is pulling back all by herself, the overthinking comment was for the idiot who twitter circled her because he thought she loved him. Her end comments on stream speak for themselves and had a very different tone to them

>>53536100
it's how things stay balanced. if she had it too easy she'd take over the world.

>>53535921
>>53535993
I watch Nene and have a membership on YouTube and Fanbox. I'm just saying if she wants to fuck up the best part about her channel and experience and punish CloudTomo for a few schizos then so be it. She even said it wouldn't hurt as bad if she had more fans as she could just replace us.

>>53535993
Cloudtomos barely even post here and all of a sudden every other poster is a cloudtomo?
RUMAO. Sure...

>>53535580
I was going to go for Suou Patra, cause Nene's ASMR game is a caricature of how good it used to be.

>>53535819

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

>>53535888
I heard her loud and clear and agree with what she spoke about for the most part it was very reasonable. But it is also understandable why some people may now also be wary of the implications.

you clearly watch her are you just esl? she said having a larger audience would make it easier to ignore the schizos

>>53527662
Link the onlyfans

>>53535993
nope

>>53536748
Then if you're in between, tell me, do I have nothing to fear? I'm not a schizo, but the love and affection Nene gave everyone was a huge light in the darkness and I don't want her being scared away by others.

>>53527662
She locked down the Discord

>>53527662
>>53537023
schizoGOD

the actual reason nene isn't streaming as much and is distancing is because she just got a chad boyfriend (in real life) (that's not you) and she's letting you down nicely

>>53537212
wish lua would get a boyfrriend cuz shes getting old heh

>>53537363
based cuckling we love to watch heh

>>53536970
So long as we keep her strong no we do not have to worry at all. But she herself has to have faith in us too and for the most part she does have faith in us. Thats the thing it is a two way street this love we all have and share. So we gotta keep treating her right and with respect. So worry not cloudtomo keep faith in her okay

how big is your screenshot folder of your oshi

>>53537090
>yesterday
>when she took 3 days off
>when in that very stream she handled this exact problem like a pro
I'm not saying the "distancing" isn't happening, very slightly, because I have felt that it is, but this anti doesn't do his research.

>>53537618
200ish

>>53537618
I'm not really a "pictures" guy but I have 120 files in my oshi folder

>>53537503
Keep faith she won't abandon the relationship she's built with CloudTomo then?

Haven't got a chance to watch the nene vod from today yet but what the fuck happened, why are all the cloudtomos doom posting. Did she find a bf while traveling or something, is she trying to move away from gfe. What the hell happened today?

>>53537717
Last stream she was talking about hoping she has enough fans to not see the schizos, but that also means enough fans to strip away familiarity

>>53529010
The relationship used to be closer? How is it less meaningful now?

>>53537938
She's ditching GFE and told her fans think of her however and that she wants more fans to not see the schizos

>>53537889
yes

>>53537717
can you tell me what do you mean by distancing?

>>53538011
I'll try, I want to keep faith anyway, but I'm not going to play dumb either.

>>53537938
lol its not cloudtomos its one (1) schizo samefagging

>>53538003
Ill take this at face value until i watch the vod but if thats true ill be fucking sad, if shes not my wife then i duno what she is anymore

>>53535819
Ummm why is one of Isla's hands black?

>>53537938
it just fits into the trend of her going for a less intimate relationship with cloudtomos, I wonder if the upcoming annoucement will be the nail in the coffin for true GFE and she will scale back to Lua levels of GFE

>>53538029
I can't point to specific examples, it's just a vibe that I have.

are you gonna do this all day?

>>53537618
I like all the kawaii girls (charzu the most) so I have around 400-600 for each, give or take

>>53538243
ogey

>>53538160
She was holding hands with Charzu earlier

>>53537973
We're down from 11 to 5 streams. She keeps taking vacations for a workload she created for herself not taking concert prep seriously. Until being reminded she had to record 15 songs and dances. Her content's been lacking, when she does stream it's "watch me doing boring crap while I talk into an ASMR mic." The only cool thing that has any meaningful bonding now is Umineko, because she's connecting to us and showing us something. The rest of it's crap that has no quality. The weekly ASMR has been getting worse and worse, now it's lame call-and-response roleplay, barely, and the same triggers every time and the same lame jokes from chat. No more hand cams, no more playing games with her, the only quality time is Umineko and her raw talent for Zatsudan.

>>53538160
she spilled the milk and that's a new glass

>>53538326
Was she fingerpainting?

yjk nene's new bf told her it was him or kektomos and she chose him lololol

>>53538316
>>53538243
There are plenty of specific examples. She's constantly reminding the good CloudTomo to respect the boundaries we already respected. She won't do hand cams and cries about how clumsy she is or gives her face away as if she can. Wants more fans so she doesn't have to notice the bad ones.
>>53538196
Lua's GFE is lame, no wonder Birblings like being cucked.

>>53538455
He'll ditch her when he realizes how annoying she chooses to be. She fights with CloudTomos and randoms over fights she starts with wild statements.nhha2

>>53537503
She could try and reassure CloudTomo, it's not like we hurt her or did anything wrong.

>>53538154
It is a shit post watch the vod its at the end at 3:47:03

>>53538615
It's not a shit post moron

I posted this a few days ago and I want to ask you guys what types of ideas do you have if you were put in charge of her next outfit?
Another idea I had for Shee would be a 50s diner waitress with roller-skates.

I love the dichotomy between Isla's cute and goofy speaking voice and her absolute sex singing voice

>>53538677
go away thread fag i was in both streams

>>53538736
I want to see what an OL shee looks like

>>53538785
Dude, stop simping, she doesn't want us to feel anything for her

>>53538736
this is a super cute concept, but I'm way too lazy to come up an ensemble myself

>>53538526
that's most girls though

besides you know what they say about crazy pussy, that shit good

>>53538332
I gotta admit her no gaming i only ASMR and chat weeks have been crappy, her regular ASMR streams seem so rushed and all although she had a few new triggers its always the same, and she typically only plays off of specific tomos in chat. She seems to go back anf fourth between i love you guys so much, too please dont think i actually love you its weird and unfair to me. I dont fucking understand her anymore.

Nene i know you are here, just drop the gfe act if you either are sick of it, have a bf, or want to become more serious. You only make things worse trying to pussyfoot around everything

Next thread will be better, r-right?

>>53538939
No

>>53538852
yup checks out i think your looking for /same/ this is /pkg/

>>53538939
Discussion about talents as opposed to posting kawaii friends nd haha i blew my load to lua. This is what the thread should be

>>53538939
kektomos gotta be put in their place, it's about time

>>53538933
That's what I'm saying. It's crap, but I'm going to buy a ticket to her concert and hope things get better. It won't though as Nene wants more concerts she can't prepare for and she'll sacrifice our time to do them.

>>53538939
maybe but probably not since /same/ made /pkg/ theyre home thread away from home

If there's a 3D off collab, what would you like the theme to be, what activities would you like to see the girls do together?
I'd like to see them play that watermelon splitting game.

>>53539188
eating contest is a must

>>53539188
Hand Cam Jenga

At least try to make it less obvious that you're samefagging

why are kektomos already cuckposting? the GFE purge isn't even confirmed so this feels like fear mongering

>>53539254
more handcam jenga would be fun

>>53539285
Nene is the one fear mongering

>>53539254
that's a face reveal yab just begging to happen

>>53539303
But Nene doesn't wanna do it cause creepy, ugly CloudTomo and their parasocialism

>>53539249
That could be interesting. What would they eat? Sausages, ramen bowls, a 12 egg omelette?

>>53539336
Bullshit

>>53539336
shee tripping over a wire, knocking the camera over and revealing her cute latina face lmoa

>>53538196
>>53538332
>>53538462
Huh so i'm not the only tomo feeling this weird difference in her steams and the way she acts, even tho shes still all loving for the most part something feels off. I duno what happened lately or mabey something on her break but she seems to be trying to ease off the wife aspect.

>>53539285
i'm planting the image in their brains early on so they're less emotionally struck when it's confirmed

it's because i care for them you see

>>53539336
Mocap balaclava

>>53539285
Because i was trying to play voice of reason in a madhouse and that makes the /same/fags lurking /pkg/ big time mad

>>53539420
Then we ease off our wallet and time aspect

good riddance

>>53539254
The last one was fun

>>53539336
It already happened during anime nyc and was a great time

>>53539394
gotta be some sort of dessert so even the light eaters would want in

>>53539486
I 100% would, mabey for the best honestly

>>53539501
What, a game of Jenga? if you're being serious then when did that happen

>>53539285
Seems alot of longtime tomos are feeling the change, and since her content is built on gfe i imagine they are worried about losing her in a sense

>>53539648
I am worried and she's doing nothing to address it

>>53539732
2:23:00 to around 2:30:00 on today's stream addresses it somewhat. She spends minutes loveboming and talking about missing chat while she's away.

>>53539900
I watched it, it did nothing for me. Making sure she drives a wedge between us and her was more important as she mentioned twice.

>>53539636
Off colab with handcam anime waifus play jenga, is the title its on lua's channel

>>53539732
discord cloudtomos have picked up on the change even in the kawaiicord, I imagine the nenecord is having plenty of discussions about it

I listened to Lua's karaoke on the way to work. Bloody good singer, she is, especially when she sings Avril.

>>53539900
7 minutes of gosling versus two segments of driving us away

>>53539981
you're just seeing what you want to see, there is no "wedge" anywhere.

>>53540023
Is there a sep Nenecord?

>>53540098
yes, invite only

>>53539900
This all she did was address litteral stalker shit in both streams and still loves us. She just wants people to understand that love can not be anything more. Than a online relationship and that it needs to stay a online relationship.

>>53539648
>Seems alot of longtime tomos are feeling the change
>>53540023
>discord cloudtomos have picked up on the change even in the kawaiicord
proof next thread?

>>53540072
I don't enjoy seeing the wedge she's driving between her and CloudTomo

>>53540128
If I believe you, you better be ready to eat shit when I will be right

>>53540128
>>53540139
its schizos + no jannies = rrat central

>>53540139
>proof
I will when I get back home

>>53540116
Lul, faggots

>>53540204
Usual Charzu time, right?

>>53540139
This thread didnt just come out of no where, you think fags are gunna post under there name in discord and have nene see them. 80% of the posts about today are from actual tomos, the fear is unfortunately real

>>53540035
The love bombing after telling us to back off is the problem, why are one or 2 over zealous tomos the fault of the rest of us?

HOLY SHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP FUCKTOMOS, I WANT TO HAVE FUN TALKING ABOUT MY OSHI, SOMEWHERE THAT IS NOT DISCORD, BUT YOU CLOUDTOMOS AND THE SAMEFAGS AND THE DOXXERS AND EVERY OTHER BASTARD WON'T STOP DERAILING THE FUCKING THREAD.
I LOVE ISLA I LOVE LUA, I LOVE NENE AND I LOVE DISCUSSING THEM WITH OTHERS. I HATE HAVING MY CONVERSATIONS DERAILED BY FEARMONGERING RETARDS.
Shut up. Please, just shut the fuck up.
OtsuIsla-sama, wherever you are in the world.

>>53540439
>DERAILING THE FUCKING THREAD
>/pkg/
>entire thread discussion up to this point has been about Nene's stream
holy retard, you wanna talk about your oshi there is literally nothing stopping you from doing so

>>53540439
Derailed by actual discussion?, what useful stuff were you gunna post. "I love lua" or "hey guys isla is cute" yes how original and interesting

>>53540439
>only positive discussion is allowed
I'm still watching the vod, with anxiety about the ending segment thanks to this thread. I won't deny that I have undeniable seeds of doubts in my brain even as my ears are hearing a lot of "I love you" from Nene.
I guess I am just an insecure schizo who hopes he doesn't feel too down 50 minutes from now.

>>53540190
Believe what your heart tells you man if its screaming get out while you can than you should listen to that. Because i am following my own heart and just sharing my take away and interpretation of events. With people who may or may not give a shit thats all <3

>>53540533
>>53540535
go back to /same/ fags
"talking about your oshi how about I cuckpost about someone I don't even watch"

>>53540352
>80% of the posts about today are from actual tomos
again, proof next thread?

>>53540438
"Having your cake and eating it too", but it just creates worse mixed signals. Most of us haven't done anything to Nene, I don't know why we have to be punished for it.

>>53540608
Shut up Andrew

I'd just like to say, in this trying time, that I personally enjoy having cake and eating it too.

>>53540636
Stop the larp and fuck off already, retard

>>53540608
wtf is this new level of threadshittery
>i'm retarded and can't use timestamps

>>53540636
She is just using schizos as an excuse to drop the heavy GFE and leave a "reasonable distance" between, which is not wrong but it's kinda scummy to drop what made her popular in the first place now that she has secured a strong parasocial fanbase

>>53540803
It's retarded, cause she's burning bridges while she crosses them

>>53540605
Having watched the vod i duno what to think, do i think its being overblown, yes. But i also see why people are fearing the worst because the way she explained things so bluntly with i cant ever love you, even tho true is not something she'd normally say. She always seems in character but her little rant seemed to be like watching the mask slip a bit, now her "love" feels less like love and more like she has to say it. But thats only my own feelings about it, hope you dont feel the same honestly

How WEIRD. /pkg/ isn't the usual 80% anti shit and suddenly "real honest-to-goodness Cloudtomos" have doubts about their oshi.
It's almost as if the same assholes are samefagging and falseflagging the same old shit. As least the ones spinning boyfriend rrats are honest about their shitposting.
True cloudtomos: watch the VOD and decide for yourself. That's all I gotta say.
> in b4 "i'm a real cloudtomo and Nene sucks now"

>>53540688
not andrew retard >>53536884

>>53540871
Who are you to decide whos a fucking real tomo?, the posts seem genuine and i see no one freaking out or being disingenuous. To me as a tomo they feel quite legitimate

>>53540866
Told you, there's reason to fear and love bombing means nothing if she's just gonna spend the end of the stream yelling at chat over literal schizos.

>>53540960
Cloudtomos have never fucking posted in the thread before, yet all of a sudden dozens come out of the woodwork to doompost? Fuck off

>>53540803
But her fan base was made because of the perceived intimacy, if thats gone she'll lose those regulars. And for what new grey names and more dead subs?

I like it when Nene calls me a Chump

>>53540960
It's all this guy:
>>53540439
>>53540610
>>53540699
Falseflagging threadshitter attempting to shut down any actual discussion here. The thread has been fine aside from the occasional cuckpost, just ignore him

>>53540690
FINISH THE CAKE NAMI

>>53541063
As a tomo myself i can say ur absolutely fucking stupid, plenty of us here we just mostly lurk and laugh at things. Any discord tomo feeling uneasy is here posting because you cant have some fag like neme taking screen shots to show nene

I'm a real cloudtomo and Nene sucks now.

>>53541155
>As a tomo myself
No you're not, you're a threadshitter running with the latest rrat

>>53541188
>stiffly waves hi, then clenches her fists and practically shrivels up into a ball
CUTE CUTE

>>53541359
https://twitter.com/reina_kawaiii/status/1680232753235742720?t=8V302tencFMDieGEwMIEIg&s=19

>>53541397
Her latest stream is a rrat?, its funny when you try to have actual discussion in here people call it thread shitting. Like what do you want discussed in here?

>>53541415
isn't autism just the cutest

>>53541480
learn to ignore falseflaggers and stop giving them (You)s
I guarantee you he does not frequent this general

>>53541188
i am in love with her

d-does she know
https://youtu.be/5sABDuGwz5o

>>53541476
why did she do it?

>>53541112
BASED tomo

>>53541727
holy shit this image is beautiful

Good Rei for gen 4

>>53541869
she'll have to bulk up for Nami first heh

>>53541725
she's like the joker, she just does...things...

thats why shes a demon

>>53541575
Fair enough im dumb

I think I like charzu

Nene is graduating out of Gen 1 to join Gen 4 and tard wrangle the next gen. She will remain as Amano Nene.

Nene is graduating out of Gen 1 to join Gen 4 and tard wrangle the next gen. She will remain as Nene Amano.

>>53542537
she'll reincarnate in gen 4 as chibi nene since she was just born

>>53542681
the circle of vtuber life

>>53542537
i accept your rrat

>>53542296
but she is a... you know...

>>53541869
I would actually watch an all JP gen 4. Especially for the collabs where they all try to speak with their senpais that aren't Lua or Nene in broken english.

OK, I've now caught up. It was clearly directed at schizos, but I can see how it could be perceived as "wedge driving" especially when taken alongside other small hints of reinforced boundaries over this past year. She's walking a fine line.
>keep it on the screen
>it has to stay in the clouds
is not Fauna-tier yab but you can see how the tower might be teetering. The problem is that Nene's entire foundation is GFE and if it goes so does she with it.
She's sending the right message (and, rationally, Fauna was too) but the difference between a Gosling and John Hinkley jr. is slim. It is a bit of whiplash going directly from the stream 3 days ago
>I'm 2D
>I'm your wife or your GF or whatever you want me to be

I guess my point is that these feelings are fragile once shaken. Hopefully everything will be fine down the line with more streams. If I had a wishlist it might be some new spins on her ASMR routine, more content to make fanbox feel like its worth it, and handcam making a return sometime.
And fuck all of you for making it hard for me to enjoy this stream, having to spend the whole thing being overly analytical and paranoid. I should take Nene's advice of turning brain off and enjoying anime girl.

caught up with the vod. Don't understand the dooming. Seems like it was a case of "I love you but don't come to my house please".

>>53543085
>turning brain off and enjoying anime girl
probably the best idea, thinking too hard is what leads people to go insane when watching vtubers

this is what happens when women have complete control over men

>>53543328
It's the most mild shit ever.
Wow Nene hates schizos like everyone else? Hmmm I wonder who would be upset by this? Truly a big mystery.

>>53543328
Schizo's really want to go to her house

charzu fat tits

>>53543658

>>53543716
no woman over 30 could do that, right?

>>53543658
>>53543773
my god look at those sweater puppies

>>53543716
>Nene backing up to not get hit

>>53541188
>>53543716
Finally some concert webm for my request a few threads ago. Thank anon

>>53540023
>>53540139
>Nene really loves us (within certain boundaries)
here, they have picked up on her moving away from "parasocials" and they are going with it. Of course this is just "I'm cool and not parasocial at all" PR because no one would dare to voice his actual concerns outside of the private nenecord.

>>53543784
Korone was also well over 30 when she did hers.

>>53543883
Private Nenecord?

gen 4 tomboy

>>53543784
this birb goes where eagles dare not

>>53544047
we're getting 5 whores and you're going to like it

>>53543883
Those reactions are from when she was talking about the schizo that messaged management about wanting to ask Nene out
Good try, 2/10

>>53544004
Surely you are in the secret nenecord where you can have ERP with the femtomo right?

>>53543883
lmao a literal circlejerk

>>53544004
invite only fancord for cloudtomos, kawaiicord nene channel is mostly dead because the activity is in that discord

>>53543883
>The pickme cope
Sad!

>>53544091
>>53544160
Sounds dumber than fancords in general. Now we have sekrit club shit

>>53544234
>we
>sekrit club
if you care about talking on discord with other fags? You don't right?

>>53544234
this applies to pretty much every fanbase though, there will always be fags making invite-only discussion servers. I can guarantee every girl has one, even Isla had one, that's what led to the whole doxxknights thing

>>53544515
the current kawaiicord was originally an islacord

>>53544632
I really wanna know how and why management hijacked it and made it the "official" kawaii discord. though they may as well not even be there since they clearly aren't moderating it

>>53544738
The only way it is official is that management are on it. Anything else is discordmod cope. Is Luxter the known stalker still there?

why is today literally the first time a nenecord is being brought up

>>53544992
>first time
Novem was seething about it over a month ago

i hate gated communities

>>53545277
Sex

So, Nene has all this time to go on vacation and scare CloudTomo over schizos, but not update the Google Drive?

>>53545370
such a good eater. clean that plate shee

>>53545370
Sheeat

I remember when all the idol 3D previews were shown off and being super hyped for them. i probably blew a load to this one

>>53545405
>update the Google Drive
What am I missing out on?

>>53545722
For me it was this one.

Do you think things would be different if Oceane had stayed around?

>>53545784
It never gets mentioned, but all her skebs and extras go into a Google Drive folder for members only and it's 7-8 months of of date.

>>53545973
There would be only Oceane left, and the other 7 girls would have left with gen 3 or earlier

>>53545277
Do you have isla dancing next to Lua and Nami for the trio performance? The dancing gap between Isla and Lua/Nami is kinda comical and CUTE

>>53545973
Kawaii would easily be the biggest small corpo

>>53545973
No, she'd still be targeting Nene

>>53546078
Miryu would have stayed if Oceane didn't yab and stay in kawaii. They were friends

>>53546082
I love how Lua barely danced for most of the concert, Lua old lmoa

>>53546119
Not really because idol group is a still a niche within the west. However, kawaii would probably has slightly better currently if gen 3 didn't implode

>>53546139
No, Miryu was menhera and any wind blowing harder than usual would made her go away.

>>53524193
Sex btw

do all vtubers eat with their mouths open

finna give charzu a fat dono tonight

>>53546222
True, but she tends to follow an "older girl" that she respect. If Oceane wasn't a cunt and yab herself out, Miryu would have stayed because she was closer to Oceane than other gen 3 girls prior. I think Oceane incident did lead to Miryu deciding to leave kawaii, but due to a different reason compared to other gen 3 girls.

>>53546065
That trend of her posting a higher quality WAV of the ASMR streams was nice too and not done recently.

>>53546352
The face capture it probably just detecting jaw movement

>>53546446
Would be nice if she did

>>53535819
Please tell me about Isla. Don’t want the paraphrased version. Nearing a year and I know nothing about her I didn’t even know I’ve never heard her voice till I saw the concert. What’s her streams like? Girl gaming or actual gamer? Gfe and to what extent?

>>53546573
Just watch her most recent stream. It is a good show of what she is about.

Didn’t watch nene’s stream but when they get bigger they usually double down on gfe at least from my experience. Then again they started off light gfe if not outright against it at first so might not be the same situation

>>53546573
https://streamable.com/84e0zr

>>53545784
Because i love you shits

>>53546845
Can you name a bigtime chuuba who does hardcore GFE?

>>53543716
>we said luas old bones would creak during the concert
>then she did that
I apologize

>>53546573
What's stopping you from just watching one of her streams and finding out? Completely accurately describing what someone is like is extremely difficult, but I guess I'll try:
She's cute and bubbly, comes up with a lot of creative stream ideas and is generally good at improv and plays the most unique games. She's the best singer in kawaii and probably has the strongest stage presence, I'd say only Shee compares in that. She's very fond of early 2010 internet culture and nostalgia content in general. But my words don't do her justice, you'll just have to watch her

>>53546573
Autistic SEA isekai princess with an Aryanface model. Loves memes, weeb stuff, 2000s culture and singing. Says she's not cute but really is. No GFE but is a bit parasocial for her fans.
In other words, she's perfect.

>>53546217
Unironically Oceanne was a weirdly large draw. She’s the only one other than Nene I used to get recommended. I can’t say they would be the biggest small corpo because jew money really seems infinite but they would be doing drastically better

>>53547145
Gen 3 in general was really strong as much as I hate to admit it and kawaii would probably be up there with Phase and Idol if they stayed. No one knows definitively why they walked out, but both sides are doing infinitely worse since it happened. Definitely the most baffling decision I've ever seen in the vtubing sphere and literally no one was prepared for how retarded those 5 were

>>53547145
I would get reccs for Peony's yandere content

>>53547352
Kawaii will recover and honestly has

chocolate cinnamon roll
>>53547520
>>53547520
>>53547520

>>53546987
JP
>Koyori, Okayu, Kanata,
There’s a couple more JP but they don’t go as hard as these 3. Lamy, Chloe, Watame and Flare

As far as en goes much more difficult because the only big time are holoen and vshojo+. Gura used to do gfe but she started streaming less. Some consider Irys because she says “I love you to” whenever you tell her that.
Not big time but Yuko became more gfe the bigger she got same with Ophelia from vreverie.

>>53525801
>>53527292
On Twitter you can make other people part of your "Circle" and only they'll be able to see your tweets that you post in the Circle (if you ever see a talent's tweet being quote tweeted but you can't see it, that's what it is). This along with private response maros are loopholes in the no dm rule because while it technically still isn't strictly a dm you've created an environment where you can have private 1 on 1 contact. Wonder if management will start cracking down.

>>53546987
real ones remember Rushia heh

>>53547033
Because I like hearing what other people think tends to make it easier to find what stream to start with

>>53547584
man chocolate and cinnamon do not go together

>>53548180
You're fucking wrong

>>53548180
Apologize to Shee

>>53547849
And shirogane noel who koshita hired nene to be like and even is supposedly koshitas own oshi