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What the fuck is happening in Nijisanji? There's suddenly a shitload of shitty mobile game promotion streams popping up in a very short amount of time. It's like they've become a mindless shilling machines. Something must have happened and they're desperately doing all the shilling that they can possibly do right now for some reason.

>> No.5323053

>>5322829
Ange's outfit is making my balls squirm about uncontrollably. I want to make a baby in this stupid bitch!

>> No.5323198

>>5322829
> Nijisanji sponsorships bad

>> No.5323224

Yes, I know exactly what happened.
Basically, big corpos asked for shilling their stuff in Japan and Anycolor answered yes.

>> No.5323717

>>5323053
Same but with Inui Toko.

>> No.5323822

>>5322829
Or probably they know Cover is in fire now, so all corpos turn to the only competent Vtubers company in Japan.

>> No.5323869

Wait. They play other games than just Apex, Among Us, Minecraft and Genshin Impact? Sponsorship is nothing new, though I do have to wonder if they have to do more of it since 75% of there livers aren't really pulling their own weight. 3D debuts and new outfits cost money and when you times that by 100+ livers they have, they've got to make up the difference somewhere. I'm honestly surprised that there isn't more branch closures because the model seems built on a shaky foundation waiting to collapse but that's just my opinion from an outsiders perspective.

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>What the fuck is happening in Nijisanji? There's suddenly a shitload of shitty mobile game promotion streams popping up in a very short amount of time. It's like they've become a mindless shilling machines. Something must have happened and they're desperately doing all the shilling that they can possibly do right now for some reason

>> No.5323934

wtf Valkyrie Connect is still up and running?

>> No.5323962

>>5323869
>outsiders perspective
You forgot to mention you never watch any vtubers outside HoloEn clips and you don't know how Vtubers industry work.

>> No.5323934,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5322829
Shill or not having vtubers in games is barely ever a bad thing.

>> No.5323987

>>5322829
I guess it's good?
I hope with this they wont be pop-ups in the games/websites I visit anymore

>> No.5324081

>>5322829
It's not just nijisanji. Lately Hololive had been shilling Bleach game too. I don't know why corpos are sponsoring vtubers to play their games. It's a shitty attempt nevertheless.

>> No.5324139

>>5323822
Cover "talents" are getting shill streams every fucking day too.

>> No.5324160

>>5322829
>ragnarok origin
any relation to ragnarok online?

>> No.5324258

I mean Hololive is shilling the Bleach Game, Calli and Mori with the Shadowverse game, and Subaru just finished her sponsored stream of Nier Reincarnation. It'll only increase from now anon.

>> No.5324350

>>5323822
>all corpos turn to the only competent Vtubers company in Japan
Last time I checked, VSPO hasn't had any significant deals.

>> No.5324374

My rrat on why Google decided to sponsor Niji instead of HL despite the difference in numbers and reach is because they need a large amount of streamers to shill whatever game they're playing and HL can't provide that at the moment

>> No.5324446

>>5324374
Nijisanji is also cheaper to sponsor, since they have smaller reach

>> No.5324446,1 [INTERNAL] 

>Calli and Mori
fuck guys, there are two now.
god help us all.

>> No.5324485

>>5322829
Idk why there are a lot at the moment but this is normal in Nijisanji.
This is not counting the other events they are attending outside Niji as well which there are a lot of lately.

>> No.5324519

Let's pretend we are in an alternate reality and the bugs have no beef with Cover. How much worse would the shilling get if you were a holofan?

>> No.5324579

>Nijisanji gets lots of sponsorships
>They must be desperate the company is about to fail!
>Hololive gets lots of sponsorships
>Look how popular and successful Hololive is!

This fucking board I swear.

>> No.5324631

>>5324519
The floodgates would open and we'd be seeing Arknights and Genshin streams a lot

>> No.5324658

>>5324579
The majority of this board are composed of /v/ tourists who brought their cancerous tribalist mindset with them.

>> No.5324664

>>5324350
They did with EA but they really need to play other FPS other than Apex to attract more sponsors.

>> No.5324736

>>5322829
This is why Cover had to euthanise Coco. Nijisanji is winning with countless sponsorships and chink money.

>> No.5324772

>>5324579
anon you're expecting too much from /vt/. the level of retardation on this board rivals /v/

>>5322829
you forgot the shibuya tsutaya, sweets paradise, and garukon sponsorships which also all happened this week.

>> No.5324888

>>5322829
Its only natural for them. When you think about it Nijisanji as a whole is really just one big advertisement for Hololive. People see Nijisanji vtubers first because there are about a million Nijis and they get into vtubers because of it. Eventually they discover the superior Hololive product and start watching that instead. Many such cases.

>> No.5324927

>>5324579
This is a Hololive board. Get used to it Nijinigger. Go back to your containment thread if you don't like it.

>> No.5324976

>>5323934
It's pretty much just a home for crossovers with dead franchises but yes it's still around

>> No.5324980

>>5323053
stop looking at my wife like that

>> No.5325001

I'm fucking tired of shilling

>> No.5325008

>>5322829
I love niji. In fact I'm married to Ange. But who the fuck plays mobile games? Seriously

>> No.5325099

>>5325008
I'd tolerate good mobile games like arknights and priconne, but shilling bad games with a gacha or a battle pass is something else

>> No.5325102

>>5324579
holobronies board

>> No.5325104

>>5324888
>they discover the superior Hololive product and start watching that instead
That is weird because that is opposite for majority of current vtubers fan. Newfags saw Hololive first and get into vtubers because of it. Eventually they discovered the superior Nijisanjis talents and start watching Nijisanji instead. The proof is right in this board and outside.

>> No.5325161

>>5325104
Your version of this makes no sense because that would mean Nijis numbers would be inclining yet they are reclining every day instead. Even Kuzuha, who used to go toe to toe with Pekora, can barely beat Miko these days.

>> No.5325165

>>5324927
>This is a Hololive board
Holobronies...

>> No.5325178

Well at least alchemy stars is a pretty good game

>> No.5325310

>>5324658
no, thats not it. vast majority of tourists are from r/hololive and discord groups.You can tell because they use "rrats" and meds outside of here

>> No.5325424

>>5325310
so /v/ tourist

>> No.5325445

>>5324579
holonigs not even once

>> No.5325456

I like the Tom and Jerry game

>> No.5325456,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5324888
Ah yes the company that gives their livers almost complete freedom over what they wanna do is an advertisement for a company that keeps their precious idols in cages.

>> No.5325592

>>5322829
>heh they don't get sponsorships the company is dying
>NOOOO WHY ARE YOU SHILLING GAMES SO MUCH REEEE

>> No.5325729

Out of morbid curiosity, why haven't Genshin Impact had a sponsor stream with them yet

>> No.5325787

>>5322829
I want to commit bestiality with Toko!

>> No.5325792

>>5325729
With Nijisanji? They've had multiple.

>> No.5325836

>>5325729
They do sponsored streams for Genshin regularly since the launch of the game.

>> No.5325889

>>5325792
>>5325836
Oh they did? Can you give me a link?

>> No.5326157

>>5325889
https://youtu.be/u6LNH2OytcY

>> No.5326167

>>5325729
most recent one
https://youtu.be/MD9T-CfG5Gg

>> No.5326207

>>5325889
There are way too many streams to link them all but here is a sponsored one a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD9T-CfG5Gg
and one of a series of sponsored videos from a lot of different members around the time the game launched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nArdS-LQ73k
Then there are plenty of them regularly all the way through that period.

>> No.5326331

>>5326157
>>5326167
>>5326207

Can't believe I missed this, but I'm happy Rion is getting paid to thirst for her husbando

>> No.5326352

>>5322829
Is it not OBVIOUS Anonchama.
Umamusume the horse gacha game happened and it was extremely HUGE.

Nijisanji is desperately in search for the next big hit. The next Umamusume. And they are failing at it. All these gacha promotions Niji is chasing will soon backfire.

Apexsanji wasn't enough for them. Know they want to be known as a Raid Shadow Legends type nuisance.

>> No.5326591

>>5326352
It is Google play collab though

>> No.5326629

>>5325008
But I heard Ange is a thick protagonist?

>> No.5327070

>>5326352
so when holo gets sponserships its good

and when nijisanji gets sponserships its desperation? you retarded holobronies are stuck in a bubble

>> No.5327435
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1) Nijisanji has a griphold over the Japanese normie market (all of these are Japanese domestic market deals)
2) Anycolor has better business management than Cover and is able to respond to sponsorship deals more effectively
3) Nijisanji's more numerous roster that covers multiple niches means they're able to spread their cards more and have more livers willing to accept sponsorships

>> No.5327496

>>5327070
>>5324579
There's no mention of Hololive from who you are replying to. Stop making assumptions, tribalist faggots

>> No.5327516

>>5323822
I swear holofags are the ones spinning this narrative, anyone who thinks that Nijisanji isn't also a total clusterfuck is just blatantly uninformed.

>> No.5327744

>>5327435
t.newfags, totally an expert in chuubas industry

>> No.5327848

>>5327744
Sure are refuting what I said with all those cold hard facts.

>> No.5327901

>>5324160
Same exact franchise, but this particular game is news to me. The last game I heard of was Ragnarok Mobile: Eternal Love, which is basically a condensed remake of the original RO game for mobile.

>> No.5327939

>>5327435
Unironically true

>> No.5328230

>>5322829
Shitty predatory mobile games pay the best for sponsorships, some suit decided to cash out goodwill for cash, sponsorships are not optional for corporate vtubers

>> No.5328233

>>5327516
Nijisanji problem come from the talents and antis. Hololive problem come from Cover management itself.

>> No.5328569

>>5322829
Because the chinks pay better than the nips. Most of their recent ones are chink games like alchemy stars (tencent), google play and individual ones like knives out, identyV (netease), genshin, mahjong, last period, black surgenight, punishing gray raven, rtv. The less money nips sponsorship go to hololive for some reason e.g bleach, molly online, nier, priconne.

>> No.5328745

>>5325104
Anon, if your theory was correct, NijiEN would still be inclining at a relatively constant pace. Nijisanji dominates the Japanese domestic market and Hololive has only started to have more presence there of recent.

>>5322829
Two-fold issue. Gacha devs are desperate to make gachabux. They will latch onto anything to make people come to their gambling addiction apps. The second is >>5326352. Talent agencies like Hololive and Nijisanji are living billboards, so they need to promote shit to make the real money.

>> No.5328801

>>5322829
How new? Nijisanji are with Sony and that means a lot of sponsorships/music related promos.

>> No.5328966

>>5324927
>this is a hololive board
i'd be worried about Cover graduating your top talent before Nijisanji.

>> No.5329060

>>5326352
>desperate
do you even realize Nui plays horse gacha all the time

>> No.5329711

>>5325104
Don't expose me like that anon

>> No.5329988

>>5328569
You forget Red Bull, Family Mart, Capcom, Microsoft, Good Smile and Bushiroad. Hhhmmmm.....

>> No.5330291

>>5329988
Or Square Enix, Stukumo and Netflix?

>> No.5330550

>>5329988
I think all of those besides red bull have also sponsored/collaborated with niji before.

>> No.5330587

>>5330291
Lets not talk about that netflix RoR sponsorship. They butchered the animation.

>> No.5330661

>>5330291
Or Pixiv, Wacom, Wine, Sake, Eyeglasses, or even Sanrio?

>> No.5330841

>>5330661
Think Niji did all those too besides Wacom. Maybe not eyeglasses though.

>> No.5330932

>>5330661
Actually they did Wacom aswell.

>> No.5330986

>>5330550
>>5330587
They haven't with Microsoft. Good Smile is giving almost 3 gens their own models in different varieties available in shipping locally across NA. My point here is your whole cheaper nip sponsor is BS. You are nitpicking to make your argument looks nice for you.

>> No.5330992

>>5330550
they haven't collabed with microsoft or red bull afaik, feel free to correct me

>> No.5331110

>>5330986
>>5330992
During YouTube gaming week last year there were a number of members doing watchalongs of the Xbox tokyo games show presentation as "official influencers".

>> No.5331133

>>5330986
>Microsoft
>Japan
The Xbox is so unpopular in Japan the Vita sells more.

>> No.5331182
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>Nijisanji's biggest talent: not graduating
>Cover's biggest talent: graduating
I care about that more than sponsorships and view counts to be honest.

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>>5322829
>What the fuck is happening in Nijisanji?
They live rent free in your head

>> No.5331202

>>5330986
I'm not the same guy you were arguing with by the way just pointing out the ones you are mentioning that niji have done as well. If anything the fact that niji does those same ones as hololive is against that guy's argument.

>> No.5331214

>>5330986
>>5330992
Aren't those scarlet nexus streams sponsored by Xbox/Microsoft? There's also that game pass shill by gen 5 and red bull ambassador thing for Aqua and Botan.

>> No.5331239

>>5325104
This is what happened to me but i don't think this is true for most people where holo is their first and last chuuba experience desu (and a good thing it keeps being that way for a large majority of EOPs and unicornfags)

>> No.5331319

>>5331110
So we are counting watchalongs as sponsorships? Sure.
>>5331110
It's a sponsorship retard. It's meant to market the product.

>> No.5331384

>>5331182
Your argument is invalid. There's more graduations in Niji than Holo.

>> No.5331418

>>5331384
There's a big difference between graduating on good terms vs graduating due to harassment.

>> No.5331428

>>5331384
One KR streamer graduating vs Kiryu Coco graduating over shitty management

bit of a power gap

>> No.5331441

>>5331110
So the sponsorship failed and they jumped ship to Hololive?

>> No.5331457

>>5322829
you take what you can get, not everyone can get big sponsors.

>> No.5331478

>>5331319
I'm pretty sure they were paid to do the watchalongs yeah. As part of the same overall thing several of them were paid to shill the PS5 too.

>> No.5331529

>>5331182
What you should care about is your oshi not what is the current drama like a fucking gossiping bitch. Who the fuck cares if everyone graduates. You sound like a corpo fanboy.

>> No.5331571

>>5331529
I can't support Cover after what they did to Coco, and Haato. They also made Pekora cry earlier this year. The girls are fine but man, do I hate the company.
>a literal rapist manager works for Cover still

>> No.5331600

>>5331428
And gibara graduating because she cant stand bullying, hey i can make rrats too.

>> No.5331670

>>5331478
This is a Sony shill not Microsoft
https://youtu.be/4dg9cEGj4L8

>> No.5331683

>>5331571
I can't support Anykara after what they did to Roa, and Naruse. They also made IN Graduade earlier this year. The girls are fine but man, do I hate the company.
> a literal rapist livers works for anykara still

>> No.5331719

>>5331670
That is of course. But that's not a watchalong of the xbox presentation.

>> No.5331733

>>5331683
you're using whataboutism (and wrongly) to equate a rapist manager to Niji management.

>> No.5331738

>hololive is top vtuber company
>gets the big sponsors
>niji is isnt the top vtubers company
>gets the shitty sponsors
is not rocket science.

>> No.5331774

>>5331738
why is Hololive only now getting to play games Niji have had permissions for, for a long time?

they can't even play nkodice lol

>> No.5331781

>>5331738
google and tencent are quite big sponsors i think?

>> No.5331798

>>5331733
Ogey, keep bullying your livers to graduation nijibros

>> No.5331912

>>5331798
Niji isn't Cover management and Yagoo? Why is Coco quitting anon? hint: it's not the china stuff.

>> No.5331932

>>5331798
this but with Hololive

>> No.5331967

>>5331571
Sure. Except Coco has repeatedly have said several times in member zatsu and public streams the reason why she's graduating. Haachama is a uni student. Pekora sure is crying her heart out with all of that sponsorships she's been getting. The Mel incident is the only thing problematic which is not exactly uncommon. The dude was fired. Continued to stalk her after the fact. Mel asked for legal support Cover said no because they said it is out of their hands. That is literally what any company would do in JP. Even the fucking retarded jp police would say that. I dount Anycolor would do any different given how slow they are to respond with the whole roa-meiro shit.

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>>5331600
>rrat
Sure, let's ignore everything Coco said about management blocking her ideas for content including Asacoco, blocked from collabing with HoloEN UNTIL she anonunces her graduation, not getting invited to the New Years collab. Keep gargling on that corporate cock.

>> No.5331996

>>5331774
they get blank permissions
>>5331781
the problem is that is promoting the shitty apps so doubt it paying much.

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>>5331967
>the reason why
management blacklisting her and not letting her do what she wants cause it's too "risky".

MEANWHILE IN NIJISANJI:

>> No.5332122

>>5331683
>roa and naruse
But they still in niji no?
>NijiIN
Yes they stupid they Rarely stream and did poorly, And Noor is still in management so i don't care. Well better than HoloCN Kek

>> No.5332125

>>5331912
I dont know, i dont care, its coco business not mine. Now where is Roa anon? hint : its not because irl stuff

>> No.5332185

>>5332125
You do know, Coco even said it was management's fault.
>"you know when band members disagree on stuff? it's like that."

>> No.5332266

>>5332185
on the same stream she said not to blame management.

>> No.5332273

>>5331600
>rrat
Anon at least make a good rrat

>> No.5332392

>>5332122
Nijisanji Shanghai Taipei

>> No.5332399

>>5332122
>Well better than HoloCN Kek
Niji also graduate their chinese division you tard. thats 16 livers they just let go.

>>5332185
They disagree on what content allowed. still better than having restriction on your accent kek

>> No.5332411

>>5331683
roa still releases voice packs you colossal retard

>> No.5332445

>>5332266
oh for fuck's sakes anon it is clear as day what the problem is but she can't exactly say it cause of a NDA. PLEASE don't defend corporate bullshit, she was blacklisted since September from streams. NYE exclusion not enough of a fuck you?

>> No.5332477

>>5331996
i think shitty apps probably means they get paid more if anything, you aren't going to play that on your stream unless you are getting some good money for it

>> No.5332487

>>5332411
well tats terrible advertisment if you do a prodcut for a eprson that doesnt stream anymore.

>> No.5332538

>>5332399
>Niji also graduate their chinese division
Their what?

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5332601

>>5332266
500 yen stored into your bank account

>> No.5332649

>>5332538
Look it up>>5332392

>> No.5332666

>>5332445
>she sadi this you should belive her
>yeah but also said this
>NIGGA SHE ISNT SAYING THE WHOLE TRUTH
i mean i rather belive coco and her just not agreeing with management rater than an anon posting rrats on a chinese basket weaving forum.
But still, Nijis sponsorhisps went down the drain.

>> No.5332678

>>5332392
>>5332399
I Know, but What's their reasoning? any source?

>> No.5332718

>>5332666
Anon, don't be loyal to either company. Cover fucked Coco over, period. They basically made her an outcast and still have the nerve to leech off her with merch profits.

>> No.5332800

>>5332718
>They basically made her an outcast and still have the nerve to leech off her with merch profits.
she asked management for it to be resold, since new tatsunokos never got the chance. You should watch her streams.

>> No.5332859

>>5332678
It wasn't even the same kind of thing. Nijisanji partnered with some existing vtuber groups in the countries and let them use their name and then they ended the partnership and after that the members graduated.

>> No.5332874

>>5332800
Cover is profiting off a corpse, that's the issue.

>> No.5332917

>>5331182
go superchat him instead of posting him in console wars thread you stupid faggot

>> No.5332959

>>5332874
she asked and she will get her part as the sell finishes until one day after graduation.
Jesus

>> No.5333147

>>5332959
And Cover is profiting off a graduation they are causing. She should get 100%.

>> No.5333246

>>5332859
So no bad blood? then it's not like HoloCN if that's the case? and also Isn't VR 90% owned by bilibili now? genuinely asking

>> No.5333270

theres a lot of holocope lately

>> No.5333320

>Why does a corporation that exist to make money getting all these money making deals

Dunno anon, might need the scooby gang for this mystery.

>> No.5333350

>>5332859
wait so virtuareal isn't nijisanji anymore? never watched them so i'm OOTL

>> No.5333480

>>5322829
I FUCKING HATE KENMOCHI TOYA FUCK THAT SHIT STOP PUTTING HIS AVATAR BESIDE MY CUTE INCHO WAIFU FUCK FUCK FUCKING DIE ALREADY KENMOCHIYOYA AAAAAAAAA I WANT TO KILL CHAOS

>> No.5333580

>>5333350
virtuareal is, they are talking about another group nijisanji had before that

>> No.5333643

>>5332859
What is not the same? they only partnered with local company to handle the local affair. Niji did the recruitment, let them use their name, recruit people with their site, and let them use their tech. is this some kind of it doesn't count cope?
>>5333246
What do you consider as bad blood? because its the usual cold corpored pump and dump treatment to unprofitable branch. and yes according to some zhang that is the case.

>> No.5333981

>>5333643
Ah so it's like NijiIN? I genuinely thought they disband because you know, taipei and shanghai.

>> No.5333994

>>5333643
They didn't graduate the branch or close it down. They ended the partnership and it became another company before that happened.

>> No.5334054

Why is Nijisanji used as a scapegoat? I mean wtf, Anycolor isn't the reason Coco is being forced to quit.

>> No.5334182

>>5325008
the japanese when they dont have access to their desktop PC and are on the train for a whole hour

>> No.5334373

>>5334054
Im sure you know already anon

>> No.5334381

nijisanji lives rent free in holobrony head

>> No.5334550

>>5334373
Seriously, blame the people responsible for this nonsense, not another company. Suisei literally had Niji girls in her live and people act like tribalist retards.

>> No.5334565

>>5334054
Honestly the tl;dr summary is as simple as newfags being retarded and shitposters shitposting.

>> No.5334903

>>5324927
Based

>> No.5335439

>>5333147
You don't watch her.
You are only using her to push your narrative.

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>>5335439
yes I do

>> No.5336188

>>5334054
holobronies, japanese or eop/esl fans, they are the most cancer fan in this industry

>> No.5336644

>>5331996
>the problem is that is promoting the shitty apps so doubt it paying much.
Who care? they still getting sponsors from one of the biggest company in the world

>> No.5336769

>>5333643
>because its the usual cold corpored pump and dump treatment to unprofitable branch
what is this? charity? are you commie cuck?

>> No.5339169

>>5331982
asacoco was shit tho. as is meme review. all of coco's "big" content has been shit. she's quitting because they wanted her to try to not be shit. granted that her massive audience of shrimps is specifically into shit content, and would likely walk if she did stuff that didn't suck, meaning cover missed the point.
>>5332018
meanwhile in niji
>roa/meiro thing happens
>roa still not streaming
>meiro gone, being a bitch about roa elsewhere
>anycolor's only action in the whole thing was firing meiro when she got to her third "I'mma quit, no wait no I'm not"
cover butts in too much, anycolor doesn't butt in enough.

>> No.5347339

>>5322829
Cope with this holonigger.

>> No.5348277

>ago gets on stream making fun of all the soulless sponsorships
>next day does a sponsorship
grass

>> No.5349716

>>5325310
most are from amecord, a cancer server between the cancer discordfags

>> No.5350013

>>5339169
Roa still not streaming we don't know the reason but it's likely that she fears to come back as roa after all that reaction.

>> No.5350735

For retards who don't know about Meiro-Roa case

>Roa is a rare Niji who's faithful to her RP, one she crafted with a friend who's now graduated
>One part of the RP is ending her sentences with "-deyo," which she calls "魔界訛り/devilworld dialect"
>Meiro joins
>Some point after joining, Meiro starts using "-deyo" in her streams despite not doing it in her debut or past life
>Fans notice and start getting on both Meiro's and Roa's cases about it
>This catches Ichikara's attention, and they, knowing that Meiro never used it in her audition, debut, or past life, request that she stop
>Meiro claims that it's just how she talks and requests that they release a statement saying that it's natural
>Ichikara refuses to do it because again, they know that she never used it before and that she's most likely lying, meaning that the statement would be a lie
>Meiro still refuses to stop using it and instead chooses to graduate, sending out the graduation form
>Some senpai Nijis get her to reconsider, and she asks to stop the graduation process
>Ichikara agrees
>Upon coming back, Meiro leaks confidential information related to this ordeal, which is a breach of contract
>Ichikara notices and tells her to take a small break and think about what she has done
>Instead of taking a break, she applies for graduation AGAIN
>And a short while later, she tries to cancel it AGAIN
>However, by this point, Ichikara has had enough of her shit and were reluctant to accept it
>Suddenly, someone clearly on Meiro's side leaks some stuff to Narukami(vkeemstar)
>Meiro is painted as a victim, while Roa is painted as a power-harrassing menhera and Ichikara as a black company
>Roa is cancelled
>Ichikara terminates Meiro immediately, since in their eyes, only she could've leaked it, which is a SERIOUS breach of contract
>Ichikara then puts out a detailed account of the situation from their perspective
>Roa puts out the discord logs that show that, back in summer, she reached out to Meiro to try and have a conversation about it, only to get a single wall of text in response, followed by weeks of ghosting
>With all the information put together, the general opinion starts shifting towards Roa being innocent
>Months later, Meiro('s other identity) releases an ADULT voice drama starring a somewhat familiar-looking agent No. 2535(obvious reference to 2434 — ni ji san ji) of a secret organization called NOA's Ark
>Meiro is now seen as menhera filth and Roa is completely exonerated
>(You are here) Vkeemstar is being trashed for being a retard who believed a menhera's narrative and did serious damage to innocent Roa's career and didn't even apologize for it

So, how is this AnyColor fault again?

>> No.5352607

>>5350735
theyre both menheras, who gives a shit if your accent is a little similar to each other, imagine you accidentally say deyo in a live stream once and your menhera senpai bugs you months about it

>> No.5352805

>>5352607
It's not really a menhera thing like imagine if someone in Gen5 suddenly started copying Korone or Pecor's mannerism and got popular through it. Both fans and chuubas would be concerned

>> No.5354006

>>5352805
That is not equivalent at all. The thing is that ending your sentences in -peko is obviously a character gimmick; and Korone's - cute doggo noises aside - stresses words weirdly in a pitch accent that is all over the place, one couldn't do that consistently unless it was 100% their natural accent.

Meanwhile -deyo is just a variation of -dayo, which could be easily justified as being a local variant of speech in certain parts of eastern and southern Japan. There's a legit argument to be made that Roa's speech quirk could be someone's natural accent/dialect and that Meiro hid her dialect at first in fear that prejudice could affect her audition negatively - which is not an uncommon practice in Japan - and as she eased into a streaming routine and relaxed it started showing up.

Whether or not that was what actually happened, at the time Meiro's story sounded very plausible even for the Japanese.

>> No.5354966

>>5354006
She chose that character gimmick because there wasn't any easily found that switches -dayo for -deyo. You could make the argument that it's more phonetically similar whereas ending in -peko isn't, but there's a reason people couldn't found out where the accent is from irl.

That legit argument goes away when they can't explain where their accent is from, and Meiro specifically said that it only comes out when she gets scared/plays horror games, so there's no easing into streaming here. She also did use a completely different accent at the start of auditions before she did fear that it could affect her negatively.

I do agree it sounded very plausible at the start, but plausible != Meiro is right. After Ichikara/Roa released their side, the only question anyone should really have is about why Meiro repeatedly asked to graduate/basically lied, and what happened during her resurrection stream where she stated she had permission to talk vs management saying she didn't.

>> No.5355051

>>5352607
> https://nico.ms/sm37736415?from=100
It wasn't only the accent that Meiro that mimicked.

>> No.5355503

Jesus Christ, they're just sponsorships. Why are anon's pants in fire when everyone in YT with fairly big following do it all the time?

>> No.5355879

>>5355503
they're baiting to get people to talk shit about both companies. Don't bite.

>> No.5356351

>>5348277
Not gonna lie that was kind of dumb of him to say in the first place, especially so close to a sponsorship

>> No.5357224

>>5354966
>the only question anyone should really have is about why Meiro repeatedly asked to graduate
One theory is that the first attempt at graduation was just her way of getting Ichikara to listen to her. She had the Niji record for fastest 100K subs, so she might've believed that she had enough sway to basically go "Do what I want or I'm leaving!"

>> No.5357246

>>5330841
They have the Wacom one, Amicia and Nara from Nijisanji ID did one.

>> No.5357398

>>5348277
>>5356351
He doesn't do sponsorships usually because he doesn't like praising games for doing basic bitch shit and they're usually boring.
He's doing the google one because the focus isn't solely on the game, but also on the competition with other vtubers which he thinks will be fun.

Even in the google sponsorship though, he was talking about bots in the game when he tried it, he just doesn't give a fuck.

>> No.5358407

>>5355051
My favorite would be the dancing animation one
>This one i made using friend routine as reference
I didn't know her friend is member of BTS

>> No.5358649

>>5354006
I have yet to see a video explaining where in japan Meiro "natural" accent came from.

>> No.5358968

>>5357398
Nah, it's probably nothing that deep. He probably accepted because he saw that Mito was in there or some shit.

>> No.5359222

>>5358968
https://youtu.be/aFTLTGGae2E?t=1307

Come on, your Kenmochi reps...

>> No.5359733

>>5332487
Anon, are you ok?
Also voice pack is self produce, meaning she's made it herself and it wasn't last year product

>> No.5361296

>>5331683
if the same shit that happened to naru happened to a hologirl this board would be in flames holy shit

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