/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Magni just posted a pic of him and his cat looking pretty happy about an hour ago on his rm’s account so not dead. I won’t be surprised if he leaves though.

>>53490430
I only watch EN are JP holostars like this too? I never see a hologirl suspended

>>53490430
Redebut in mixed gen en3.

What the fuck did Pako do to deserve this?

>>53492332
Honestly you gotta admit that'd be pretty hilarious

1. The announcement is just more Morishit
2. They're not going anywhere. They're not suspended; they'd have come out and said so if they were. Most likely scenario is that they were in some sort of accident together.

>>53492421
>Most likely scenario is that they were in some sort of accident together.
>He doesn't know

>>53492421
I'm not sure if they're suspended or not, probably not.
But you gotta admit there's a lot of incentive for not having all three of the EN suspension be on the Stars side, and 2 of those 3 be Vesper, their #1 Homo.

>>53490430
>holostars mattering for a hololive announcement
?
Are you retarded?

>>53492751
Considering they made it an official policy for all members to stop streaming during debuts even ones from other branches, yes there is incentive to believe that is what Cover thinks.

>>53492751
Cover is that retarded

>>53490430
Fag lover

>>53490430
>Sorry guys, couldn't make the HQ collab happen.
Poor Axel, this is somehow worse than when Vesper left him high and dry in Japan during their 6 month celebration stream.

Vesper's cock belongs to me

>>53492421
If they say the S-word all hell breaks loose. They deliberately avoided using that word in the announcement tweet, but "suspended" is what you would call it when their "activities have been stopped". For whatever reason they're not allowed to even tweet about their sudden break and "Magni" appears fine in RM tweets so it's not some serious accident they were involved in. They are suspended, but for whatever reason management doesn't want to directly state it.

>>53495801
they didn't doubt use suspension in a very vague form before why they wouldn't do it again?

>>53495801
>for whatever reason management doesn't want to directly state it.
Maybe because getting suspended twice in a row would make them look unprofessional as hell even for even the last cumguzzeling tempussisters
Since they are management’s favorite, we can’t possibly have that happen

>>53496171
>Maybe because getting suspended twice in a row would make them look unprofessional as hell
getting suspended twice looks unprofessional as hell because it IS unprofessional as hell

>>53492507
Gura was suspended for literally months because omega told her she couldn't stream over the homos and Gura called him a "niggerfaggot"

I haven't looked into threads about this before but surely the most reasonable assumption to make is that their contracts expired after one year and they didn't renew in time to continue working uninterrupted. But they must be still negotiating or else they'd probably already be considered to be graduated.

>>53492421
>They're not suspended
They're probably suspended pending termination.
>Most likely scenario is that they were in some sort of accident together.
That isn't even remotely likely.

>>53492421
Proof of it being morishit?
>they're not going anywhere
Nigga you gotta admit axel's ''I'm sorry I couldn't make the HQ collab happen'' tweet is kinda worrying.

>>53496414
Ok then how can you explain Axel being sure that the collab won't happen in time? Whatever disputes could be resolved today or tomorrow, there's time for it to be done before the anniversary.

>>53494990
>>53496761
>>53496876
What did Altare say about it? Oh nothing? He hasnt mentioned the issue or them at all? How strange.

>>53496876
I don't know man. Maybe negotiations broke down and they're just holding off on the announcement for some reason. Or maybe it's something completely different. I just think that contractual issues are most likely since it's been just about one year since debut.

>>53497377
Not op, but I saw a clip of Altare saying that it's something sensitive "so just support the boys that are here." rather vague, but quite a doomposting tone for rrats to eat it all up.

>>53496071
JP did that. EN literally never even retweeted their suspension or gave a translation. If anything this is right in line with that behaviour.

>>53496414
>>53497437
>It's just contract renewal stuff
No chance. They would've either re-signed by now or they'd have graduated. It's too late for contract renewal things to be happening. Remember Sana? She announced her graduation more than a month before Council's anniversary because that's around when her contract was ending.

do you rly think that Vesper, after getting his 2.0, would say "fuck it niggers" and and just not renew his devil deal?

>>53498123
Only other option is he somehow fucked up twice in such a short span of time instead of just not being a retard.

>>53498123
No, but I believe he is menhera and could easily yab himself into the void again.

>>53498072
Tempus isn't normal. Remember how they said they were going to debut earlier but management suddenly went with hiring a second gen before they'd even debuted a first? There's no telling how that fucked up their contract renewal times and shit behind the scenes.

>>53498123
NTA but yes. here my arguments :
> impulsive
> anger issue
> already suspended once
> anyway stopping activities for any reason just after getting a 2.0 is already "fuck it niggers" tier
> already left is job because, just because.

>>53498123
>it's not contract because the timeline doesn't match
>it's not an accident because one RM is still posting photos
>it's not a break because they didn't announce it themselves and just went MIA skipping streams, before finally COVER tweeted
Highly likely a suspension for both. Maybe they fucked up somewhere.

Vesper's google account got locked unexpectedly and he couldn't stream days before this announcement. They both got model updates shortly before that.

My guess is that EN management in all its glory was playing around in these guys' accounts and fucked something up.

>Altare tries to make himself the star of the anniversary events
>Vesper and Magni complain
>They get suspended
must be nice to have pull with management

>>53498345
>went with hiring a second gen before they'd even debuted a first
This is just a rrat that spread out because they were trying to play kayfabe. Tempus 2 said they only met each other around 3 months before their debut (debut in Jan, met around Oct). Their RMs also announced hiatuses around that time.

>>53490430
Maybe they are doing a strike? Its the only thing thats not suspension or graduation or accident or a break, and you cant tell the fans "Oh our employees are striking" without a shitstorm.

>>53492332
Some people are just born cursed.

>>53499098
cover should just terminate them if that's the case.

>>53492201
It's literally just Vesper. The JPs have been drama free since 2021 and their last drama was a dev throwing a tantrum, the rest of Tempus are doing their thing and have stopped collabing with Holos so much and Magni was doing good until now aside from some /here/ nothingburgers. Vesper however got suspended like two months after debuting, when he came back he ghosted his genmates and now this.

>>53492507
>their #1 Homo
Roberu and Altare have more subs than him and Bettel makes more money in supas than him. He's not special just because he fucks Kronii.

>>53497488
link to clip?

>>53497377
>"We honestly don't know what's going on, and we don't want to reveal what we do know to protect Vesper and Magni's privacy, please don't speculate and keep supporting Tempus."
In my opinion all they know is that it is a 2 week suspension.

>>53498462
I believe the rrat that they lost their phones that has the cover app on it and now are getting punished for it.

>>53499884
You're retarded if you think they can't just open it on another phone and they must use a special phone from COVER that they sent from Japan to bumfuck America or Indonesia.
It's just the app that's in-house. You can use any iPhone.

>>53492201
It's literally just these two. They've been bad news before day 1 even but Cover doesn't really put any effort into background checks.

Why do people want Cover to turn into Niji? Fuck off with this stealth suspension bullshit. You are so fucking stupid.

I could see Magni getting injured because of Vesper being a dumb autistic fuck and there's now pending legal action. I can also see both of them having issues with their contracts and the 2.0 designs was an attempt at appeasing them but Magni got a worse model and is over it while Vesper got a better one but thinks he's worth more money than what he actually is.

>>53492421
>they'd have come out and said so if they were
Dumbest fucking cope out there
"dey would hav tolded us"

>>53500956
>stealth suspension
But that's exactly what this is. They've both been suspended but Cover isn't using the word "suspended" to describe it.

>>53501131
Honestly it's barely even a stealth suspension. They basically said "these two are suspended" without using the word suspended.

Whether or not Cover actually does stealth suspensions, the way you phrase one is to give an excuse like "talent is on break" or "talent is sick", usually on their account, to alleviate people. In this case they just straight up said that these two are having all activities held, which is what a suspension is.

>>53500956
>stealth suspension
>the tweet explicitly said "All activites ... will be stopped for a while"
>https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506?s=20
I know English is hard, but that's clearly suspension.

You smell that?
Fresh morning homobeggers seethe.
You love to see it.

>>53500956
lol such a newfag. stealth suspensions ain't special to niji. they've always been there for jp corpos before en on both branches was a thing. tourists just finding out about it because of a menhera ex-niji whore is just so funny for some reason.

>>53501120
>accident
This Magni guy is tweeting his face with his cat on his RM.

>>53490430
>Axel is sure that Tempus 1 won't be able to get together for their 1 year anniversary
Can we get a timestamp on that?

Maybe they are being investigated for some shit, locked out so they can't delete anything on their accounts

>>53498123
Given how long it took Irys to get hers, it's possible Vesper asked for a redo basically the day-of the gen reveal and the entire world lmao'ing at his design and the timing was just-so that something else blew up in the background.

>>53501448
>the timing was just-so that something else blew up in the background.
Yeah Vesper

>>53499564
Fuck that dev honestly, what Oga did was peak creatividad and he got shafted.

>>53498123
That impulsive manchild?
Yes, he could definitely do that

>>53498072
That's not how that works at all. If they're negotiating and both sides are trying to avoid graduation, they can take as long as they need to. Do you think all the writers and actors on strike now aren't going back to their jobs after they reach an agreement with the studios? After the last one, all the writers went back to the shit they were in the middle of doing. Similarly, Vesper and Magni would just go back to streaming.

>>53496761
everyone in en: we know nothing about this trailer
mori: i can't talk about it!
...

Turnabout is fair play. They've been suspended by Popular Demand.

>>53502274
Bae isn't everyone

>>53502421
Ouch

>>53501686
That it if any of them reach an accord. Thing is that if those two homo want a raise, it's definitly not a good time, on top of that it's well known that cover want to avoid graduation as much as possible, but with investisor not liking how much they spend on paying tallent, and EN branch not doing that well recently, and tempus doing pretty bad (and would do quite bad if those two en up graduating) the situation could totaly be in a deadlock. Cover don't want graduation, magni probably don't care either way, vesper is being a manchild, investisor would be probably fine or even for them to disapear.

>>53492332
>>53492407
>>53499352
The man has the death touch for whoever he draws.

>>53501444
Would make sense considering Vesper got locked out of his company Google account and couldn’t stream.

>>53503142
Magni's mouth is waaaaaaaaaaay too fucking big and vestroon probably spilled company secrets regarding pay/whats expected to you at hololive via emails/messages so cover is investigating both those retards.

>>53492421
not suspended is correct
magni is apparently having a surgery. probably just didn't want to "alert" the schizos for his case. faggot is pretty active on his RM and it doesn't take a genius to narrow where he is in the US.
absolutely nothing on vesper, best cope that i found is that a relative died. his folks are not young.
still weird that they had to make a vague announcement on their official twitter though. fuck knows the girls can just take all the time they want off and not have to bother with that.

>>53498123
>renew
they've already renewed, retards. it's already their anniversary month. any negotiations have been finalized 2-3 months ago. honestly can't tell if you faggots are just retarded or straight up unemployed.

>>53504231
That's a weird cope sister.
If it was real, then they could just simply tweet that they go on break. No need for management to announce it.

>>53504433
And no need for them to announce both of them being absent in one statement,

>>53501444
Thats what happened with Rushia, Cover said she was taking a break, then came out with termination upon results of their investigation

>>53490430
What Holo has learned from Vesper is never hire a chuuba that requires meds

>>53504580
I’m sure several of them need meds, but he’s just a whole other deal.

>>53504231
>announce he's on break for surgery
>his fans will support him
>come back and net some supas and gifted
Or
>MIA for a few days
>COVER stops your activities with no clear reason
>you post on your RM and no mention of surgery
Which is the more likely option for the faggot?

>>53504633
faggot has a history of hiding shit (covid) from his fans and was burned from it. i think a faction of his fans broke off because they couldn't concernfag for him KEK

>>53499098
If they were striking they would let the public know. They probably just haven't agreed with the new contract terms for homos and cover hasn't decided to graduate them yet

>>53499884
Both of them? At the same time? That's pretty improbable

>>53504803
>contract shit again
they both had their models updated. cover will not spend money on them if they haven't already signed shit. whatever the fuck is happening, it's nothing to do with their contracts.

>>53497488
>so just support the boys
>that are here
Holy shit I need a sauce because if this is true they're fucking gone.

>>53499098
>>53504803
what the fuck are they striking for? more collab with the girls? that's some schizo shit.
>>53504876
There's actually a chance that Vesper leveraged his "popularity" to get an updated model, or at least had an input on which artist and improvements he wanted.
>contract renewal period
>vesper
>yeah im still in
>but i want an updated model before i sign
>but
>current mama is inactive, possible dead
>manesan get me pako as my new mama (papa)
>tell him i want this and that
>pako says he's in
>ok i sign

>>53505048
https://youtu.be/RJ88CHU8tlo

I'm inclined to think there's a real suspension with a real problem even if it doesn't lead to graduation. Altare is saying the boys don't know anything, which means management isn't sharing the info, but there's no way he doesn't know about things through Magni so it can't be something light that's been overblown.

>>53505328
Altare is lying because Altare is the cause

If they're terminated, I wish they'd just get it over with already. I hate when they drag these things out

>>53504876
I don't think it's contracts, but model update is not a good argument for this. Those models take months to made.
It's ironically same reason why "graduation outfit" become a thing in Nijisanji. Decision about it is made months before graduation/contract one.

>>53505584
The company definitely wants to keep them if possible. Terminations are bad business, if a talent can be graduated then they generate a big profit on their way out but the stall should be expected to see if there's any possible way to keep them.

>>53504633
he is famous for hating concernfagging and after hiding his covid illness he decided he wont share personal/health stuff with his fans ever because of how bad they pissed him off.
as for vesper, idk, dude is the most menhera in stars which is amazing considering how much of a menhera astel is. no wonder him and matsuri are such good friends and yet completely disgusted by each other.

>>53499884
They can’t just get a new phone?
Really nigga?
Mori lost her phone at the airport and had literallly 0 issues.

>>53505844
Then he could just say going on a holiday for a bit be back after.

At this point all the information points towards the boys fucking up and getting punished over it. Fans should really be hoping that it's just a minor thing and they'll be back in a week with a slap on the wrist

>>53505932
again. he said he wouldn't say information or lie to cover it, period. he said he would say nothing about it. but to play devils advocate....
>>53505980
it could also be this. it is possible they said too much internal stuff and are getting reviewed for damages. it reminds me a lot of when rushia's activities stopped and then she got suspended for leaking to japanese keemstar.

>>53490430
...this is by far the dumbest theory I've read about all this.
They're not postponing anything for the girls because homoshit, you dumb niggerfaggot

>>53505722
>The company definitely wants to keep them if possible
Tempus is the branch nobody asked for, they're widely hated, and their viewership keeps sinking lower and lower. I doubt anyone at Cover would lose much sleep over the loss of two dead weights from a group that's a dead weight itself.

>>53506213
>Tempus is the branch nobody asked for,
Yagoo desperately wants a successful male branch. The CEO wants it, even if you don't.
>they're widely hated, and their viewership keeps sinking lower and lower.
Outside of here, they're ignored at worst. And in the case of some, are growing. Bettel has been growing a lot and poaching a lot of NijiEN whales and does pretty well in supas.
>I doubt anyone at Cover would lose much sleep over the loss of two dead weights from a group that's a dead weight itself.
Magni and Vesper are both pretty popular in the branch. Vesper having constant menhera episodes has definitely ruined his likeability and position at the company though.

Again, there IS a reason why HolostarsEN is still getting custom merch made, designed, and sold and NOT StarsJP. They are growing and making profit, StarsJP is not. Their members are keenly aware of this and spoken openly about how they are being pressured to make specific types of stream content to boost numbers. Oga and Astel specifically have complained about this a lot. Astel more so because the dude isa fucking drama queen who is EXTREMELY mentally fragile and always wants to do insanely complicated and expensive projects that get shot down all the time.

Is this the thread where we pretend like we know everything when we have zero evidence of anything
I want to join in

>>53506441
this IS a holostars thread and basically anyone outside of /stars/ just likes to make up bullshit and pretend to watch streams or know the current goings on in the branch so yeah hop on in kiddo

>>53501411

>>53506503
Sick
So the reason Fauna’s going on break is because Vesper and Magni broke her kneecaps while on the run from the Cover police
This is absolutely true

>>53506627
holy hell anon you're hot on the trail. can't wait for false to cover this.

>>53506627
So that explains Watson's break as well. They needed their ace detective to track them down

>>53490430
>Axel is sure that Tempus 1 won't be able to get together for their 1 year anniversary
I don't watch homos but I'm sure you can provide proof since you've seen his streams.

>>53506743
The secret is Watson’s a double agent feeding Yagoo false information on the investigation to throw off the trail

vesper says he
>dropped out of high school
>has anger issues
>always had issues with past coworkers(see the ball story from debut)
>got suspended in his FIRST YEAR
>suspended again
So, I think they aught to cut their losses and get rid of him.

>>53506213
(You) didn't ask for it, don't voice other people's opinion retard.

>>53506048
>again. he said he wouldn't say information or lie to cover it, period. he said he would say nothing about it. but to play devils advocate....
Source of fuck off. Also there's no reason for Cover to completely block him from using his work account if he was just dealing with health stuff and that still doesn't explain why Vesper was also included in the same notice.

also Kronii’s been dead for months
It’s actually been Sana posing as her

>>53506877
its a members post and im not a leaking faggot so tough shit.

5 days since the announcement with no activity from either of them(and it stopped a few days before), is anyone still coping that this isn't a suspension or has it sunk in?
>It's not how they usually announce suspensions therefore it cannot be that it just can't
This is the first example of ONLY the EN management putting out a notice like this, all other suspensions were translated from the JP twitter. We also have nothing to compare it too because the EN girls are not fuckups and none of them have been suspended in almost 3 years. https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506 Is just an example of how the EN side are announcing suspensions if left to their own devices.

>>53506954
Then he never said that.

The reason that they debuted the second gen of Tempus so soon was actually because they were all grown in labs, and for the first gen they accidentally grew two extra
If they aren’t assigned vtuber models within a year they die and growing chuubas is horribly expensive so they had to hurry up and grow another two in order to make it not go to waste

>>53507114
post your membership faggot

>>53505844
>chooses a minimal effort source of income based on fleecing emotional lonely retards
>gets pissy when emotional lonely retards concernfag
Is he a woman?

>>53507083
One employee getting suspended twice in under one year is just horribly unprofessional.

>>53507083
Not Magni is posting pictures of himself just fine btw
The bear mauling is not real

>>53507244
and yet most of nijisanji persists!

>>53506383
>The CEO wants it, even if you don't.
It doesn't matter what the CEO wants. It only matters what the market will support. And the market's support for Tempus is low and falling.
>Outside of here, they're ignored at worst.
Apathy is the purest form of hatred.
>Bettel has been growing a lot
Really? What's his average CCV?
>Magni and Vesper are both pretty popular in the branch.
"Slightly less unpopular than the other unpopular people" isn't exactly a badge of honor, Anon. At the end of the day Vesper and Magni are expendable members of an expendable branch.
>They are growing
That's a total lie. They're shrinking.
>and making profit
How much profit?

>>53507307
>unrelated deflection

>>53507346
iirc, did he not beat out fauna for SCs on their shared birthday month? I might just be having brain fog tho

>>53506867
>(You) didn't ask for it, don't voice other people's opinion retard.
Literally nobody in the entire Hololive fanbase, not one single person, asked for Tempus to exist.

>>53490430
Vesper and Mag are getting shit canned, Regis and Axel will get folded into Tempus 2. Neutered, the Tempus boys will keep their heads down going forward.

>>53507346
>That's a total lie. They're shrinking.
All of EN sans Fauna is shrinking.

Hakka’s also actually Yagoo’s illegitimate child with a random Hispanic woman he met years ago
He knew he was going to head a vtuber company and had to ensure there would be a member to open the gate to a Spanish branch one day

>>53507563
I remember Tempus used to be 4views and now most if not all of them are 3views. That's a severe level of shrinkage.

>>53507287
Yeah I was going to mention that too, bear maulings and them running away together are out too.
>>53507244
Yeah, if I had to speculate that is probably the reason the language is so vague compared to the JP announcements, they are embarrassed to even admit this hire got suspended twice inside of one year and brought a genmate along with him this time. Interesting they convinced JP corporate to let them handle it alone this time.

>>53507083
Those two seem like more trouble than they are worth. Either suspension or striking. Cover should just drop them.

Every single yen a Holo vtuber makes is actually money laundering by the Yakuza
Every supa, membership, merch purchase, etc is made by a Yakuza member, more vtubers are just more ways to make the process look natural

>>53507973
Unless it was maliciously leaking information level bad I expect them to get a pass and quietly come back and the homo's will have set a new low point with the companies first obvious "stealth" suspension. I just don't see them firing two of their biggest talents considering how much management want the homo project to succeed.

>>53508199
How does this relate to anything, anon?

>>53508437
Because this is the thread where we make things up about vtubers with no evidence and pretend like we know it’s true, right?

>>53508502
Oh, you’re deflecting. Makes sense now.

>>53508547
Just trying to fit in man

>>53508293
>stealth
Just because they didn't call it a suspension it doesn't make it stealth when they straight up said that their activities would be suspended for a while. If it sounds like a suspension, looks like a suspension and works like a suspension it is one regardless of what terminology they use for it. Also they fired Rushia after they discovered she was leaking shit to dramatubers so if those two fuck ups did something that violates their contract there's no "Yagoo's pet project" to protect them anymore.

>>53507785
They keep suspending their 4views

>>53507346
It does matter what the CEO wants. If COVER only cared about markets it would still be in china.

>>53508691
That's why I put quotation marks around stealth, its the most obvious stealth suspension ever but until they actually come out and say it like every other time I think it still qualifies
>they fired Rushia after they discovered she was leaking shit
They have certainly taken bold action in the past yes, but unless it rises to that level I think they will get a pass on almost anything else, especially if EN management have a say in the matter. Firing these two would completely kneecap the starsEN branch, leaving it carried on the back of only the clown.
In most other situations getting suspended twice inside of your first year would be reason enough to part ways - no matter what he actually did.

>>53508691
>if those two fuck ups did something that violates their contract there's no "Yagoo's pet project" to protect them
Agreed, NDA breach is serious stuff and even Yagoo won't save these 2 if the did that. The old man will probably just console himself by fast tracking Tempus3 into existence.

>>53508943
Well there's only a handful of explanations for 2 talents to get all their public activities stopped less than 2 weeks before their first anniversary.

>>53509019
I'm sure we'll be seeing another StarsEN gen very soon with how "well" the current 8 members are performing.

>>53509878
>I'm sure we'll be seeing another StarsEN gen very soon with how "well" the current 8 members are performing.
It didn't stop Cover from debuting uproar, so who knows?

>>53500956
The issue with Niji is that they make their suspensions sound like its a voluntary choice by them to take a break, say they are sick or some shit. This is a suspension in all but just the word, as there's no reason to inform people that ALL activities will be stopped for an indeterminate time, especially when one of them is literally still posting on their RM.

>>53506909
I wish this was true instead of her just becoming a cunt instead

>>53509019
Vesper used to be a wagie for a long time before this gig. I don't think he's stupid enough to break NDA

>>53507478
Nah buddy it's just (You). Provide me some examples if you wanna go with that narrative

>>53510536
Hey, there’s as much evidence for it as anything else claimed in this thread

>>53505328
>the boys are taking a little break
pretty straightforward as is even if its a stealth suspension or whatnot

>>53507478
>Literally nobody in the entire Hololive fanbase, not one single person, asked for Tempus to exist.
rumao ogey

>>53510901
>I don't think he's stupid enough to break NDA
>proceeds to be the first Cover-affiliated vtuber to ever get suspended due to internal misconduct
Yeah, sure.

>>53511184
>even if it's a stealth suspension
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1680017545825492992
Here is how you announce a break if it is indeed just a break. Mention the upcoming anniversary and reassure fans you won't miss it. The fact neither of them did this should tell you everything.
Also taking a break after doing one single stream with a super high effort 2.0 model makes no sense whatsoever.

>>53510901
Vesper is a literal menhera. Take it from this menhera when you snap you're capable of the most absurd self destructive things around.

The strongest intellect and most put together person is nothing in the face of a menhera episode.

>>53506383
You are just as schizo as the person you're replying to.

I've been licking my lips all week at the prospect of a double termination, but these fags will probably be back. So annoying.

>>53506383
>Outside of here, they're ignored at worst.
funny because reddit has a cry about them being downvoted every couple of weeks

>>53512007
I know you like cock anon but jesus..

>>53495209
get in line whore

>>53512007
Cry about it

>>53490430
>so as to not damper the mood too much
How in anyway will it be a bad mood?

>>53512252
>reddit
Literally who cares.
Even during StarsJP EOP phase it was /jp/ who helped with shilling.
Did you know Holostars have a separate COVER-modded reddit since early 2022? They sure don't give a shit about it, and their fans also don't because the diehards mostly use Twitter.
Those people camping reddit is unironically those homobeggars >everyone hates. They don't even watch streams and all they do is complain.

>>53492421
>They're not suspended; they'd have come out and said so if they were
They are suspended, and they did say so. Unambiguously even.

>>53512007
Kek

>>53512564
Aw sweet dude can I make up stuff that never happened with you

>>53512641
Never reply to me again, faggot retard

>>53512673
Vesper and Magni broke into cover’s offices and stole all their company secrets, that’s why they’re totally suspended
(Am I doing it right)

>>53512564
They're not suspended because the tweet didn't say so, anon. Even if they clearly said they stopped the talents' activities. They're just taking a break!

>>53498072
Retard.

Strong virile western men are just not suited to the kind of meek subservience that Japanese corporate culture demands.

>>53506861
It’ll probably happen depending on what COVER finds on his work accounts. Even if Yagoo doesn’t want it, I’m sure staff are really weighing the pros and cons of keeping Vesper in particular on board. He already was suspended publicly once, if he leaked secrets of any kind then would it really be worth keeping him on board again?

>>53511463
>Take it from this menhera when you snap you're capable of the most absurd self destructive things around.
Can confirm, I almost got fired once over something that started as a literal nothingburger, and next thing I know I'm in my CEO's office telling him that the pay is shit and I'm gonna find a better paying job

>>53512845
"strong virile western men"
> describe something any of those could do easely, just getting shit done
I'll fix your shit "entilted beta faggot" is the term you should have been using.
If there were any issue, the "strong virile man" would have solved it without you even being aware of it. Remember : Getting shit done, shut your mouth move your hand.

>>53512845
>Strong virile western men
>male vtubers
Come on now. They might be above the men who spend any significant time gossiping about them here but that is about it

>>53490430
Why are they taking so long to announce Magni's graduation and Vesper's suspension? Is it because HQ's anniversary is next week and they don't want to ruin the mood for the fans? There's no fucking way they're coming back on time for it so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened a day after.

>>53514878
>ruin the mood for the fans
If they are not there for it the mood is going to be plenty ruined already and even the most in denial will see the writing on the wall. Might as well cancel the whole thing if they are actually gone it's going to be a fucking disaster if blue man and axel have to carry it, let alone shill merch for people who are not even there.

>>53514878
Has cover ever publicly suspended somebody twice?
If not then I doubt they want to announce that Vesper is getting the book thrown at him again. Sure, Magni might be suspended too but they'd want to announce them both at the same time and Vesper already got shit on for his first time so they're most likely using this announcement as their cover

My hands are trembling wanting to shitpost. But i'll wait, I'm a pacient guy. But the day when tembeggar falls will be glorious. My hands will fall from so much shitposting on this day.

>>53515373
>so excited the esl leaks out

>>53515333
Short answer? No.
Coco and Haachama were the very first girls in Holo JP to ever get suspended and that was only because of the Taiwan yab while Aloe received a suspension followed by a self-inflicted termination. For Holostars no one ever got suspended (Kaoru's was a termination) until Vesper came along and that also made him the first in Holo EN to receive one. I can imagine how bad it'd be if they were to publicly announce that the same troublemaker got suspended a second time.

>>53515612
>herpa a derpa esl
I don't care. I refuse to learn such a cuck language, EN vtubing is a fucking mistake, literally nothing good came out of it. You are a fucking disease inside my hobby.

>>53492201
Suzaku went silent before graduating, Kaoru was terminated.

>>53501444
What are the possible outcomes of the investigation?

>>53515763
>my hobby
>numbersagi
Holy fuck, I hate the homos but I’d still advocate for the glassing of the number nests.

>>53516217
An investigation rarely end up with no one getting BTFO'd. Could be only one of them or both, or some manager. Could be fast or take month for any of the result. If it's extremely bad could also end up in court BTW.

>>53516217
>Probable most uninteresting outcome
They return after 2-3 months and carry on with a really awkward outlook on management from then on out
>Most entertaining rrat weaving outcome
They both get terminated after the investigation period is up and thus are unpersoned from all of Cover's websites and talent lists. Tempus 1 feels hollow and empty because 50% of it collapsed and are then consolidated alongside Tempus 2 into a 6 person Gen just called Tempus, no HQ or VG involved. Vesper and Magni disappearing means that the Clique "SQUAD" (or "NTRD" for the non Deadbeats and Kronies) ceases to exist and Stars collabs with Hololive EN fade away as members Like Altar and Axel are too seasoned to return to getting flooded with drama with a non-existent increase to their own viewership. This either means that with their spirits broken, Kronii will give up on Male collabs but on the flipside Mori will branch even further out to start a new Clique with other members of Tempus and then try to ween Kronii back onto it after the limbo of losing Vesper.
All in all its a coin flip

>>53507225
"magni is female" is unironically one of the longest running tempus jokes

>>53516642
Tails never fails
TAILS NEVER FAILS
TAILS

>>53492201
>I never see a hologirl suspended
Do you believe that with multiple 2 to 3 month radio silent "health" breaks in hololive that it was only Tempus that managed to get suspended? They are employees so they will sometimes fight with management and much better for Cover if hololive talents appear lazy with hidden suspensions than allow the company to look bad with frequent public suspensions over contract disputes. Holostars seem to have more lenient contracts but cultural differences might explain the frequent problems between the JP managers and the EN talents.

>>53501444
Mori mentioned in the member post that she lost access to google drive she shared member wallpapers on. Maybe it's related.

>>53512252
>reddit
you mean /vt/ with usernames and upvotes

>>53490430
Didn't Magni say he was planning on ditching before his debut before the boys helped him change his mind? If he can't take the pressure of being a corpo chuuba then he really needs to sit down and look at himself in a mirror because there is no way he'd survive working in the real world.

>>53519271
They arent popular on youtube either, let me guess, it's also vt?

>>53499564
Feed me, what's the story with the dev and Oga?

>>53510030
Didn't Nijisanji claim that Zaion was "taking a break" to visit her grandmother or something like that? Cover are not being fully honest about this situation, but they are still a long way from telling shameless lies like that.

Magni couldn't get his twitch clique in with hololive so he's bailing. Vesper is just an autismo, who knows the reason.

>>53519572
iirc oga couldnt get perms for a game so he made one like it instead
Dev of the original got assmad because of this

>>53520281
>Mad because his game is meaningless without words like chinko, manko, ochinchin
It was a kusoge anyway. Retarded devs will be retarded.

>>53520281
Oga just...up a made a game? Honestly that's impressive.

>>53520281
>couldnt get perms for a game so he made one like it instead
chad move from ougaman

>>53518014
The rrat that they "lost their phone" and that the company asset are at risk or actually already compromised is becoming more and more probable. If they don't find a good excuse they are in deep deep shit. If the investigation prove they were overly negligent they will get a long time to reflect on themselves, if it was intentional negligence they are out, if it was intetional next time they will meet anyone from cover it will be in front of a juge.

>>53520395
The irony is that NKODice dev or whatever that game was called is basically irrelevant. Oga's game might have actually lasted longer.

>>53496299
wtf I love gura now

>>53492421
Connor gave them monkeypox

>>53502882
>Pako drew me
So why haven't I graduated yet?

>>53504825
Could happen if they were at AX together.

>>53490430
It's a Mori concert.

Honestly just fire all these retards. They've done more damage to the brand than good. However, if possible keep the clown on. Questionable taste in women aside, I think he's actually a decent content creator and he seems to care about his fans. Completely yab free, too.

>>53521648
nah, going by his rm/pl, I think he's also preparing to jump ship, as expected

>>53502566
I would think that the new contract has new demands that they don't like.

>>53521648
Homo-lover

>>53507083
The jp said has already suspended a talent without announce it in the past, back when Oga got suspended 2 years ago it wasn't announced, Oga apologized and then disappeared for a week.
>>53519572
>Oga made a fangame for a game they couldn't get perms
>Original dev found out and had a yandev style temper tantrum

>>53504621
>>53504580
The difference is that he is an old man. Even crazy women tend to be docile.

>>53521648
YWNBAW

>>53521618
Mori already said it's not her project the day after the concert...

>>53520281
The absolute madman

>>53521866
No she didn't. She only became surprised when people thought it was EN3.

>>53521758
Intentionally lying low to wait for the drama to blow over != being suspended. Hololive doesn't really do the whole shadow suspension

>>53503142
In my opinion it's either this and they're being investigated, or it's something to do with their 2.0s and it isn't their fault after all.
>>53522032
>Hololive doesn't really do the whole shadow suspension
We don't really know that for certain, they could just generally be more subtle about it than niji most of the time. A lot of the Sana shit was pretty suspicious imo.

>>53521222
>Gura went to AX dressed like a twink
>seduced Magni and went to his hotel room
>stole their company phones and ran out
>compromises Magni's account so they get fired for leaking company info

>>53520632
Oga is in fact a game dev in his personal life. And a relatively notable one at that.

>>53521648
>done more damage to the brand
yet another schizo shit you faggots keep peddling around. what damage, exactly? the collabs? you know the girls are the ones that fucked those up, right? mori and bae were pretty open to male collabs way before tempus. but ame and kronii couldn't choose the right way to speak to the retards bugging them.

Vesper is definitely out, even if he comes back, can't imagine explaining 2 long awkward suspensions to your fans. RIP.

I'm really sad for Magni though.
>>53490743
Posted it where?

>>53522728
>can't imagine explaining 2 long awkward suspensions to your fans.
You're overdramatizing. Shit happens. If they're back from suspension and acting like nothing happened, then nothing happened, moving on.

>>53522815
>moving on.
Practise what you preach. You'll have to do that very same thing if your oshi gets sacked

>>53521991
>surprised over ACTUAL fan demand
mori...

>>53522728
>Posted it where?
Professor on twitter.

>>53522868
My oshi has a plan b, like almost all corpo chuubas, I'll just follow her there if she wants to continue. And sure, if she doesn't, I'll move on.

>>53502274
Ame and Kiara know what it is though.

>>53519417
He doesn't need to work in the real world, his RM is way more popular than his magni persona, that's why him leaving is way more believable.

>>53492421
>The announcement is just more Morishit
I doubt that.

>>53521618
I like how nothing here actually connects but you drew your red lines and arrows anyway

>>53522635
NTA but you are going through a hard denial phase here. Everyone knew there were retard in the fanbase, and everyone knew that what keep them in check was the absence of holostars EN, and what do you expect the girls to answer anyway, it's a fucking lose lose situation. They accept the stars they loose a lot of audience, they refuse the stars they get thrashed as incel panderer. Tempus shouldn't have existed in the first place. The issue is that their existence will cause either damage to the brand or damage to the brand, that could be worth it if each of them pull 6 figure benefice each month for the company, but right now, tempus is nothing but a shackle for cover, hololive and the homo themselves.

>>53516398
>numbersagi
>this strawman out of fucking nowhere
I have no idea wtf are you talking about. But I know homofags such as you are retarded so it's ok. The day of the homo purge is coming, tic toc, fag

>>53528245
I wish my ass was as huge as Marine's.

>>53521414
it tends to happen when you least expect it

>>53526940
>it's a fucking lose lose situation.
Nah. There's no downside to refusing Tempus collabs. A handful of twitter trannies will complain about it but that doesn't matter because there's only a few of them, they don't watch streams, and they don't spend money. It's literally no loss. But the downside to accepting Tempus collabs is immense. It causes drama, division, damaged reputations, lost viewership, and lost revenue. Shooting down intergender bullshit is the winning solution.

>>53526940
This is a good point, sadly ESL so i'm gonna translate it:
NTA but you're going through a huge denial phase here. Everyone knew there were retards in the fanbase, and everyone knew that what kept them in check was the absence of holostars EN.
What did you expect the girls to answer anyway? it's a fucking lose-lose situation, if they accept the stars then they'd lose a good chunk of audience and if they refused them they'd get labeled as incel panderers by twitter troons. Tempus shouldn't have been a thing in the first place, the issue lies in their existence and how it would inevitably cause damage to the brand and the girls.
They could be profitable if each of them pulled 6 figures on revenue each month for the company, but right now, tempus is nothing but a shackle to cover, hololive and themselves.

>>53506383
>Again, there IS a reason why HolostarsEN is still getting custom merch made, designed, and sold and NOT StarsJP
Not anymore bucko, all tempiss merch at anime expo sold so badly by the last day it was 50% off kek

>>53530108
>by the last day it was 50% off kek
by the last day fucking everything is 50% because it's a shitload of work carrying all that merch back you fucking retard

>>53530209
champ irys/miko was sold out only garbage left was altare, roberu and ollie. keep coping faggot

>>53508943
>its the most obvious stealth suspension ever but until they actually come out and say it like every other time I think it still qualifies
Not really. What is especially damaging about the Niji stealth suspensions is that they outright lie about them, ordering talents to say that they're going on vacation or whatever. That's deceptive. Saying "they will cease all activities for the time being" is not deceptive at all, it's blatantly a suspension, even if they don't use the precise word "suspension".
To make a comparison, if someone announces that an employee "will not be working with us anymore", then that is announcing that they are being let go, even if they don't explicitly use the word "fired" or "termination" in the announcement.

>>53526940
>>53529681
>if they refused them they'd get labeled as incel panderers by twitter troons
Didn't seem to stop the rest of the girls.

>>53490430
poor axel zeta should console him

>>53531541
Lol sister, idgaf about niji. they've always been a thorn to vtubing but are actual roaches that you can't seem to kill. jp people have tried cancelling them so much in their first 3 years alone, that right now they hardly care and treat them as that big vtuber corpo that has normies, fags, and autistic fans alike. besides, that stealth suspension tactic has been done by other jp corpos as well (not holo). just because a fired niji hag talked about it to newfags, doesn't mean its a special thing to those faggots.

>>53531541
>What is especially damaging about the Niji stealth suspensions is that they outright lie about them, ordering talents to say that they're going on vacation or whatever. That's deceptive. Saying "they will cease all activities for the time being" is not deceptive at all, it's blatantly a suspension, even if they don't use the precise word "suspension".
The radio silent "health" breaks in hololive are incredibly deceptive. Haachama supposedly went radio silent for 3 months because of the flu. Cover finally admitted that she was healthy just before she missed her 5th year anniversary but let's not pretend that Nijisanji is the only vtuber company that lies.

>>53531541
>That's deceptive.
How fucking new are you people to vtuber corps? Wasn't this like a known thing already on the JP side? I swear schizos on that area have already talked about it so much back when there was no EN branches yet so people finding out about these stealth suspensions are laughable. Didn't they like memed about for a short while then saying "japanese when doing publicity" or jp when doing pr. I must be old then.

>>53529636
The downside is external mindshare and perception, which is a great thing for the gatekeepers but a bad thing if the company has aspirations beyond what they already have. They will no doubt survive and succeed on what they have for years to come, but the ones that want to be seen as popular entertainers on the level of global pop stars aren't going to get that cutting out interactions from 50% of the population, something ignoring the existence of the male side of your company will assure. If the perception of the field and fanbase is a loud schizo freakout is going to happen from a fucking Matpat collab of all things, then no one bigger is going to bother and that potential is being crippled at the outset. If people are fine with that, great. The talent can stay as the big fish in a large river, never able to jump over the rocks that lead to the ocean. Like I said, there's a big part of the fanbase that probably wants that. It's just funny that it seems like the JP side is actually moving toward the big leagues while the EN side remains stagnant on that front.

>>53516512
I fail to see any scenario of them doing something so bad to the point Cover is willing to dealing with an international court bullshit to sue them. If they violated their contracts they'll get the boot and Cover will move on.

>>53517369
Nice try, nijinig.

>>53522457
>A lot of the Sana shit was pretty suspicious imo
Kek. Yeah, she definitely got suspended multiple times and wasn't a lazy cunt who thought Hololive would be a cushy and fun streaming job while she kept doing art for chink gachas.

>>53505844
imagine the hatesex.

>>53508199
that yakuza member? all Reine

>>53536898
Aren't you forgetting someone?

aw sisters...you are all so miserable with your deflections. i can console all of you

>>53528981
?

>>53533966
whatever shit's going on with chama she definitely didn't get suspended for causing problems though. probably actually dead or just burnt out

>>53538596
Gura not collabing with her even though Gura said she would over two years ago sent Haachama into a deep depression.

>>53528981
Shut up Magni, and sign the contract

>>53538669
most probably. probably left her with some damning slurs in her dms too. imagine being so stressed out studying for your tests almost failing college strict asian parents on your neck and you see your favorite cunny coworker sent what you probably think was a cheering message only to see that it was not the case. all crumbles apart pretty quick after that.
also shes pregnant from some blackout drunk college partying

>>53522471
All on the orders of Vesper, that's why he's out. Gura isn't because she explained Vesper threatened to put another baby in her, even though she barely survived having the last one

>>53523671
Way more popular with less than half the viewership?

they probably just got caught smoking weed which is a big nono in japan

>>53534570
The thing is that would not even be an issue in fact. Without tempiss they could totaly, and easely, and without much trouble interact with some males celebrities (not eceleb those are thrash anyway). They totaly could have been a all female tallent company, like most idol companies focus on only one of the two gender but still interact with external males. The difference who would make it far more acceptable for the fanbase is that those appearances would be exeption; like what homobeggar call a cope 'it's company mendatored" shit, most unicorn will be totaly fine with that. Now the issue with tempiss is that it's something from inside the company, some insuferable, and mediocre, fag that you need to deal for a long time on a daily basis. Being an all female company don't cut you from interacting with other companies, and that should have been the chosen direction. Not ruining your fanbase by the retarded "you will watch male and you will like it" forcing that benefited no one.

Magni went on a rant about how shit OW2 is (can't blame him it's true) but took it a step further and said he didn't give a fuck if he lost perms for the entirety of hololive productions because he would be doing them a favour, he also outright called out how horrible his model was on his RM account instead of keeping his complaints behind the scenes like a professional. Vesper has already proven himself to be menhera as fuck and has the ignoble achievement of receiving the strongest worded suspension notice for anyone under cover.
Neither of these two are above leaking some shit whilst complaining about how hard and stifling the corpo life is to their indie friends at AX.

Blue homo may be obnoxious for his support the cause moment but him and the retarded manwhore aussie are 10 times more professional than those two.

>>53538596
So burnt out that Haachama was radio silent for 4 months, missed her anniversary, and will soon miss her birthday?

>>53542360
>he also outright called out how horrible his model was on his RM account instead of keeping his complaints behind the scenes like a professional
And Vesper retweeted it

>>53496204
Exactly. Who the fuck uses "suspensions" as a penalty? Especially for stuff that doesn't happen on stream. What are they, a daycare?

>>53541731
You're right, but the post that was responding to said there were no downsides to not interacting with Tempus, not no downsides to them never debuting in the first place (which is true). Tempus have debuted and they've been partially integrated into the wider company culture, even if half the female side of the branch ignore them. You can't go halfway without things getting awkward, and that's exactly what happened, leading opposing sides of the fanbase that didn't even have a conflict like this on their radar dig their heels in further. Pre-Tempus, no one cared about Gura referencing Roberu or thinking Izuru's voice was nice, or that Irys thanked Shien in a tweet. Now there's a segment of the fanbase that will freak the fuck out if Gura talked to ANY man, celebrity or otherwise. People on the outside looking in will see that and decide it's not worth the hassle, especially if they don't have the mindshare where it would be worth it to weather the storm like big pop stars with rabid fanbases.

They probably got too drunk at the start of their offcollab and left one of their phones somewhere. By the time they came back to look for it someone had swiped it. Imagine if someone sold one of their Holophones to Walmart for quick crack money.

>>53543733
One of them lost their phones and cover decided to stop both of their activities with a formal announcement right after Vesper 2.0 and right before anniversary? None of this cope makes any sense if you think about it for a second. Mori lost her phone and had zero issues tweeting about it on her own account before she even got it back.

>>53495209
We know, Kronii

>>53543245
Ye the introduction of tempus is an utter failure on that regard. Honnestly i can hardly wrap my mind around how many door the fallout you describe here have closed. Also it's not only the issue of people freaking out about it, nowoday if gura were to say any homo name a group will not shut up about it for days and days and drag it around like a trophy, who will also look equaly weird from the outside, and create by extention the seethe of the other group, or the other way around, same result anyway. And both can be triggered by falseflagger on top of that; and the fanbase is big enought so that there is no way to prevent it.

>>53543245
It's mainly a /vt/ issue blowing up shit like the matpat """"collab""" into some forced yab but yes things were better back when Ame showing up in Astel karaoke and making him drop his spaghetti was just something to laugh at and barely anyone would sperg out about stuff like dokomi catboy or Ina's pixiv drawing collab. Everyone got far more serious about all this shit after tempus debuted. The degree of separation was important it turns out.

>>53544367
God help us all if Yagoo decides it's time to whip out Holostars ID. Every single day would be a Canadian wildfire for the board.

>>53542693
without proof that never happened

>>53542360
RM account is "behind the scenes" you monkey
It's literally something that's not officially connected to his vtuber persona in any way

>>53546183
>just get banned for posting it for me please
Just go to his account and scroll back to nov 2nd and look at the retweets for yourself.
>>53546789
behind the scenes is behind the scenes you cretin, if shitstirrers can post his tweet at his mama it's not behind the scenes now is it. Are you really defending him doing that?
>not officially connected to his vtuber persona in any way
Who cares about whether it's officially connected or not when he is breaking that separation himself by bitching about his holo model on his fleshtuber account.

>>53543245
>>53544367
Why blame the talents' existence for this rather than blaming the ones chimping out over every little thing instead? The talents, male or female, never sent anyone to freak out on their behalf, even vaguely

>>53547027
It's only breaking the separation if he talks about his RM as a chuuba
The fact is, by actively looking into what his RM is saying, you(or other shitstirrers) are the ones breaking separation

>>53547348
It's only breaking separation if he talks about his RM as a chuuba but not if he talks about working as chuuba as his RM? How does that work? You are not supposed to do either retard and if he has issues with his model he should have either complained about it gently as Magni or kept it entirely behind the scenes with his artist and rigger.
It would be like if Gura went straight to HER account to start crying about her catshark model having a detached ear and holes in the blouse.
>by actively looking into what his RM is saying, you are the ones breaking separation
Weird defense, yeah the fans who are aware of his RM activates are breaking the separation but it doesn't change or justify his actions. You might have an argument if it was a private twitter for his inner circle that was somehow leaked.

>>53547061
>even vaguely
The ‘NTR’ cast is certainly an interesting concept which may disrupt your suggestion once put into practice.

>>53547928
>Imagining a talent's intentions in your head
>For something that hasn't even happened yet
>Getting mad about it
amazing

>>53547839
It works because, inherently, the chuuba is the "face", the "bubble" as it were; they are the ones beholden to kayfabe
If you're able to look at the chuuba's activities and never get a hint of RM activity, then separation is not broken
RMs are not beholden to kayfabe
Plus, the complaining itself was kept very vague in the first place, described as an "ugly uniform" which is pretty fuckin gentle

>>53490430
Option 1
>They meet up, get drunk, somehow end up figthing, one goes to management and rats the other, Cover cant really know what happened so they both get suspended
Option 2
>They meet up, start doing edgy shit in the discord server contacting female members, said female members complain about such behavior, suspended
Option 3
>Cover finds out they both are leaking contract stuff to their indie friends/members of other corpos, suspended while the corp figures out how much has leaked to see if its worth termination
Option 4
>Felt like hot shit, demanded more money or whatever, got denied, say they wont stream, Cover now is just waiting for the contract to expire for them to leave

>>53548071
I’d be more than okay with being wrong about this matter when it all plays out.

>>53548340
>RMs are not beholden to kayfabe
Who's talking about kayfabe? Talking about your activities as a vtuber on your RM hasn't got anything to do with kayfabe it's just straight up breaking that separation you keep going on about, no matter how subtly you do it. There is a reason other holos are not in the habit of doing it.
>the complaining itself was kept very vague in the first place, described as an "ugly uniform"
Yeah that's true but everyone knew what he meant and it would have been better left unsaid. Not much else to say if you don't think it was a big deal, my only point was Magni also has a track record of riding the line and it's not a stretch to think he and Vesper did something that crossed it.

>>53549151
"separation" and "kayfabe" is practically the same thing
The "separation" is there to keep the kayfabe intact; the entire purpose of all of it is that those who don't want to deal with it are able to simply look at the anime character in the corner and see it as the anime character in the corner
That itself was never broken

>>53542360
>Vesper and Magni bitched to their indie/Twitch friends at AX about Cover and leaked details to them
I think this is it actually, since it'd explain why Cover didn't fuckin say WHY they were being suspended. One of their friends must've snitched on Cover to tell them kek

>>53547839
>if he has issues with his model he should have either complained about it gently as Magni
When Ina gently complained about revealing outfits while showing a daki of her default outfit she went on a 3 month radio silent "health" break. Cover is absurdly strict with their rules and there is a reason that Magni and Irys were vague even on their RM accounts.

>>53542415
what i meant was it could be that she doesnt want to be a vtuber anymore. there, happy? wassup with the hate boner for chama sister. i beg you find another deflection for your miserable manchilds. gotten tired of it

>>53548562
3 is the only one even remotely probable. 1 and 2 are nonsense and 4 doesn't make sense because they had planned streams that were abandoned due to this apparent suspension.

Is there a reason Bettel and Shinri both started being active on their mains again or is it just a matter of them possibly reaching the end of some exclusivity agreement?

>>53552423
Probably some six month exclusivity. They started being active after their half anniversary.

>>53504433
short break means stealth suspension in the vtuber community after Zaion/NijiEN drama, so they can't really use that

>>53553798
Holo has openly suspended plenty of people though, short break should only mean suspension in Niji-speak

>>53490430
Disband Holostars. That will solve all the trouble.

>>53554001
+1

>>53542360
>more professional

>>53554001
Then you guys can move on to anti-ing Mori, Bae, Ollie, Ame, Kronii, and all the other girls who ever collabed with or supported them!

>>53555046
yeah

>>53547061
I'm personally not blaming the talents' existence, just an already-existing culture that was going to conflict with their existence. Hololive talents in a lot of ways feels like babby's first parasocial content creator relationship, yet even more strict in the sense a chunk of the fanbase went them to adhere to the standards of fictional characters with no agency rather than real people. The talents buy into that illusion until something that breaks it gets thrown into the mix. For the ones that filtered their fanbase in the beginning, this wasn't an issue, but it's caused problems when the groups is taken as a whole. They're basically trapped at this point without a massive culture shift that will likely cause a ton of short-term damage they may not recover from. Like even assuming they wanted a fresh start with EN3 and recruited only talents willing to collab with StarsEN, that could make things awkward for the 5-6 earlier gen girls that want nothing to do with them. There's really no solution here that won't cause some degree of pain.

>>53550809
I feel bad for Haachama and blame Cover and Anycolor for hiding suspensions even if that has been standard practice in the Japanese idol industry. Honestly can't tell if this will end with a graduation or the longest "health" break in hololive but either way this proves that Kson was right. That vtubers have few options in the major corpos unless they own their characters/models.

>>53546183
Mentally ill freak

we had en3 delayed a year for these 2views jesus fucking christ Yagoo homos were a colossal failure

>>53555443
>admitting that once they're gone you'll just move onto becoming antis for a section of the girls instead
and this is why you'll never get your way

>>53552423
All 4 of their RM accounts sprung back up after the anniversary but it looks like only Shinri and Bettel are going to be active as them.

>>53555455
This is why I think the best course of action for them is to stay the current, general course, not give into sides one way or another, and wait until all the people shitting themselves get bored and move on

>>53555809
of course i still support the non-whores

>>53504286
This is 4chan, and /vt/ in particular, so the answer is both.

>>53538596
I personally believe the rrat that she started flunking college and her parents forbade her from doing any Hololive activities until she gets her grades up

>>53556029
Problem is tensions are going to flare up again with every new gen, at least until there's many in a row that will all be unified in whether they do or don't collab with Stars, and both options will cause problems at first. Unless you want the solution to just be don't debut new gens, which is arguably the biggest thing that caused the current tensions in the first place.

>>53558166
I think one more EN gen, one more JP gen, one more ID gen, and then put out a statement that you're "halting the hiring of new talents to focus on the growth of the current ones", which is a perfectly viable business decision

>>53555809
>never get your way
Kek, okay.

>>53509960
Holy fuck, I keep forgetting uproar exists.

>>53555455
Why is the automatic assumption by you that the holos even want to collab with the homos to begin with? Why is this compulsory element a boon versus it’s opposite being a negative? Creating battlements should be discouraged by you, but they seem to be merely not to your liking at the moment, hence >muh culture. If you’re arguing for freedom, I do so hope you aren’t suggesting one cannot choose to avoid someone.

>>53555455
the solution is simple, stop debuting new male gen, forbid male talent to initiate collab with female, and if any female gen member wants to collab with stars, especially the new one, management should explain to her that she risked to lost her income and fans. And no flirting in the stream and any social media. There

>>53554814