/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Since this is a new bread, lemme shill this chuuba: https://twitter.com/Demita_SCT/status/1656184274775867393

Hyona continuing Xenoblade in half hour:

>>53483544 (Me)

Pon me, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JFxgRezMwI

>>53378142
>Status: Cancelled, again
>they raised the recommended amount again
yeah, not gonna try no more
do people usually give more than the recommended amount or smt

>>53485636
Probably he's not accepting a kaigai nikki request

Rini plays a meta game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8fGp4cEv3E

>>53487662
But one of his works listed there came from kaigai nikki request

>>53480212
Obit has been acknowledged as the Gura killer.
https://kai-you.net/article/87249

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Media-Entertainment/Indonesia-emerging-as-launchpad-for-online-global-stardom

Interesting report about Japanese entertainment industry now looking at Indonesia as a potential main overseas market in the future.
>Despite its enormous Net population, however, Indonesia is not yet a lucrative market due to low ad fees. Net-focused businesses are waiting eagerly for a further rise in income levels in the country.
They're waiting. Expect the ID vtubing industry to boom a few years from now when Indonesia is deemed valuable enough market.

>>53494599
I'm honestly doubt vtubing counts in what this article is trying to say. Why do you think Niji dumped ID and MAHA5 refocused themselves to compete in JP and TH instead?

>>53495054
Because they're fucking dumbass that just got their middle management replaced with someone that knows jackshit about the industry?

>>53492402
We're so behind the times we're actually just now catching up with Kizuna Ai times.
So we back to edited VOD meta?

>>53485636
>they raised the recommended amount again
It's still 2k since yesterday.
>do people usually give more than the recommended amount or smt
I usually give the amout the artists want, but I never try artists who offer that cheap.
The cheapest I commission is 3k.

>>53495489
No, but rather it's because we're a bunch of FOMOfags and our market's too volatile, like yes the market's big but it's also unstable at times, especially to mid to lower vying chuubas

>>53495913
>It's still 2k since yesterday.
wait swear to god it changed just this morning-
>2k on private windows and not logged in
>3k if logged in
how the fuck

>>53495940
I don't see how's that relates to kurosanji and mahagogo considering even when stagnant, they're still the top 3 ID vtubers corpo

>>53496454
>how the fuck
Tried private mode both logged in and not logged in and it's 2k for me.
About the artist who cancelled my request (3k but he upped the price to 5k).
If I press new request, the recommended price is actually 3k.
Price range below it is 5k to 300k.
The price at the left bar is 5k too.
Weird.
I'm not gonna commission that artist though.
At least not now.
There's another one, I commissioned someone for 5k almost 2 months ago (still on going).
A week or two after he accepted, he doubled the price from 5k to 10k!!!!!!
Good thing he already accepted mine, but I'm not gonna commission him any more.
10k is too much for me.

>>53492402
https://revuestarlightre.com/archives/post-59041.html
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/cf62442b32f64a9182abaeb48a3b7b9af3e6c2c5/comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJPwRGFIxs
DEIDEY LIVE

>>53497282
SEX WITH DEIDEY

>>53492402
Top kek

>>53494599
>for a further rise in income levels in the country.
Amen brother

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA

Ooooooo 4chan God, i pray to Thee. Please let this thread be full of Deisex lewd

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA. AMEN.

>>53492402
>>53496905
It seems like he gets unnecessary hate for this

>>53497687
GET IN LINE

>>53498879
you can take her pussy while i anal sex her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEUnYUlw1BU
Iofi fan birthday project w/ Epel, Cae, Awisa and Cupang

>>53499697
>Fire Emblem Theme
?????

>>53499767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji8T40SgzKQ
My browser copy function acting up sorry

>>53495940
Nijisister calm down. Remove that wig we're in warkop. Just enjoy the coffee.

>>53495054
Then why does Hololive still stays in ID? Have you listened to what Yagoo said a few months ago? "SEA market isn't making much profit for us right now but it's an investment for the future".
So it's clear that Niji want instant profit, they don't want to invest, and Maha5 just cannot compete because current ID market has graduated from the baby stage, big player dominating and new players beat them left and right. They knew they excels in infant market like TH.

Vtubing is a small part of Japanese entertainment industry, but when big players like producers started to focus on Indonesian market, vtubing will follow. They're waiting.

>>53358870
>>53444079
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1680109416031617024
>The stream is officially canceled
>People are already celebrating at the replies
Wibu Rohis won. Let this be a reminder to never underestimate them. You can't go against the majority.

>>53500309
Because holo has reached equal status to Aqua in mineral drinks or Indomie in instant noodles, when you reached that kind of status in ID, it becomes near impossible for them to be toppled by competitors, and as you said, it makes Niji and MAHA5 thinks they'd lose ID to holo anyways so they fucked off and that makes ID less competitive and appealing to potential new players with how severe the gap between holos and other corpos in ID

>>53494599
Too slow, my oshi will already graduate first. I'm enter Vtuber world because my oshi, not because the industry itself. It's over. YES Indonesia digital creative & entertainment industries will be growth in the future, but old generation will be dead (for the vtuber and their fans).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy_3dmBR_0
Dewi wordplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2pZ2zYTLNY
Ariya gives his memberships
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HDD-ZZAXU
Oppai loli battle realms

>>53501394
Niji is short term idiot corpo
Maha is just plain dumb
Japanese people rarely take risk, even when the market is so wide open

do someone have exid graduation dates?

>>53503771
- Cia: July 16th
- Azura: August 20th
- Nara: September 3rd
- Reza: September 30th
- Hyona: October 29th

>>53504032
thanks

>>53501394
>Because holo has reached equal status to Aqua in mineral drinks or Indomie in instant noodles, when you reached that kind of status in ID, it becomes near impossible for them to be toppled by competitors
NijiID and Maha5 would like to say something to you.
They're the big boys before HoloID came.
>that makes ID less competitive and appealing to potential new players with how severe the gap between holos and other corpos in ID
Funny you say that right when we got new players starting to sneak into top 3.

>>53504948
True but they never had a strong branding like holo has, and even with the newer players, the same problem persists, From Niji-MAHA5 to AKA-Livium-DigiKagi the problem has always been how tobuild a strong common brand when IDs prefer penokohan of their chuubas as an individual instead of part of an entity, I think so far only Re:Memories has managed to balance a bit out of this issue

>>53504032
Talking about Nara. It's pretty clear the graduations aren't voluntary. Poor Girl said they're still trying to turn things around.
Fuck Riku, that greedy sumbitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv2MUfho4I8

>>53504948
>They're the big boys before HoloID came.
Reciting the old glory is just a coping mechanism. This is like when people start mentioning GadjahMada or Ken Arok (even though Ken Arok is NOT a good role model) and talk about how great Indonesia back then.
Newsflash mate, they don't even think about Indonesia hundreds of years ago.

>>53504948
>They're the big boys before HoloID came.
kek remind me of the story of Oreo and Hydrox. Hydrox is the OG but Oreo won the race and now become household name.
just like HoloID is now the household name for vtuber, when peoples hear vtuber their first thought is HoloID+Kobo

>>53505343
I don't understand wtf they're trying to do when all indos agree that they should fuck off and indochuubas are better without their nuisance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHd4rwDwTQ
Elula donothon finale?

>>53505199
All I see is you saying new players just need strong branding to dethrone holo.

>>53505436
Exactly what I'm saying.
Just like Ken Arok, HoloID won't see it coming when someone else sneakily stole the throne from them.

>>53506343
For corpos? Absolutely, they need a way to connect viewers from their multiple chuubas so that they come to each others and not just sticking to a certain chuuba of theirs, until that gets resolved, I'm having doubts anyone can beat holo in IDcorpo race

>>53506485
>connect viewers from their multiple chuubas so that they come to each others and not just sticking to a certain chuuba of theirs
HoloID prolly tried to do this with their first gen, what's with monthly Area15 and all, but dropped it by the 2nd gen lmao

>>53506621
even holo stop trying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfsEuIa0aS8
wait, gen 1 also in japan??

>>53506343
>Just like Ken Arok, HoloID won't see it coming when someone else sneakily stole the throne from them.
The problem with Ken Arok, he got it coming.
An asshole who stabbed a guy who helped him, then stabbed a guy so he can steal his wife, then steal the wife who saw the love of her life dying in bed. When he finally got stabbed, it's a beautiful karma
I don't think Holo ever hypotetically stab anyone. But Niji....

>>53506621
>>53507376
Collab event was proven not helping to boost their sub number or viewers. People watch chuuba of their choice out of their free will. Not like oom oom who watch Risu gonna watch Iofi and vice versa.

>>53507689
yep, since 2 days ago

>>53507952
If literally putting them together doesn't help, then what even will help
>connect viewers from their multiple chuubas so that they come to each others and not just sticking to a certain chuuba of theirs
anon

>>53507952
I wonder if that's an ID only thing, didn't it work for EN with idol/Phaseconnect?

>>53508062
Just be a good entertainer anon.
For example, I rarely watch Subaru, but I like her enough I bought her plushies.
Or I love watching Irys and Gura, but I still getting the whole complete set of Myth plushies
Supporting chuubas isn't always about watching their stream all the time anon. If I'm in Jakarta during their meet and greet I will pay to M&G several chuubas

>>53508182
Not really. Phase Connect have strong front but I noticed that it's always Lia, Tenma and Pippa that's in the forefront.
Even with Pippa always raiding her fellow Phasemates after her stream ended, the audience don't always stay.

t. a Cappipalist POV

>>53508350
so you're saying a spearhead works better then lmao
so kurosanji method isn't wrong all along

>>53508643
The problem with Kurosanji is that they're not nurturing their Livers to build a consistent fanbase.
Meanwhile Holo actually nurtured their talents. Give them time to grow naturally and put the root deep in the fandom to the point they became a household name.
Like I said, Subaru grow on me through many things, her stream, her clips, her meme, her fanmade contents. Even look at Haachama and Ayame, they're absent for so long but because they already planted a deep root in the fandom, when they reappear fans will celebrate their return.

>>53507689
Oh lawd they have pen and book merch
As a writing and stationery nerd, I must get them
I wish they use high quality pen brand like Uni or Pilot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk3oa1SEH7g
Okaeri Mei!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayhjw9ga7Rg
Happy 20k Divya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huAPC-yqn8k
Valita Ghost Recon Breakpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq3vSLX4NGI
Abel Ghost Recon Breakpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwPtY2ot4Hw
Beato Geoguessr
https://youtu.be/iFNfJEbv_Ks
Yuko27 Tales of Graces

Just checked the merchs
>The pen look plain, but still gonna get it.
>The book, eeeh 300k for a notebook without knowing the quality of the papers? I still not sure. I spent more on Tomoe River and Rhodia note books but they're worth it.
>Multicase, the drawing make me think twice. No thanks
>Metal Bookmark, with Art Noveau style? YES PLEASE!

>>53508953
first you say the talents need to be good entertainer, then you say that they don't even need to entertain
like, fuck you mean with planting deep root in the fandom, that lazy bitch ayame do fucking nothing since forever

and what even nurturing their talents even entails? honestly, i can't think of anything related to nurturing talent that cover do to holoID that maha5 didn't do and yet look at the result

>>53509827
LOL you're mutar balikan what I'm saying.
They successfully plant their root deep in the fandom because they proving themselves to be so entertaining fans clamoring for more.
Also
>Ayame is lazy!
Found the clueless nijisister. You do realize that she's very active since her debut right? She only took a long absent because of family matter. Now she frequently stream again.
>What they nurture?
The fact that they still put so many HoloID in their 3D and live events? They also part of many promotional events, including appearing in cons and advertisements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7Yhzs-ACU
Only up but Ave got controlled by his trakteer chat

>>53510111
>The fact that they still put so many HoloID in their 3D and live events?
but anon,
>Collab event was proven not helping to boost their sub number or viewers.

>>53495054
Niji management is retarded.

INDO WAS A MISTAKE, WE SHOULD BE DUTCH OR EVEN JAPANESE AFTERALL, BEING INDO IS A MISTAAAAAAKEEEE

>>53510177
3D can be like recent Reine 3D event or youtube concert. Live events like Holofes shows many personalities like their costumes or their figures. Remember that last year's Holofes, HoloID gen 1 solo performance gain a lot of praise and love from everyone.

>>53509707
I'm still baffled they're putting that picture on multicase.
Like, I don't mind having that picture to appreciate, and multicase is neat to have, I guess.
But now I can't use the case in public and can't really appreciates the pic coz small.

>>53510415
>Dutch Vtubers
What they gonna do, ride their bicycle around while talking about Pepernoot?

>>53510177
Do you know what event caused HoloID to surpass ex-ID and MAHA5 in the first place?

>>53510527
debut of first gen?

>>53510527 (me)
Oh wait, you're just quoting this guy >>53507952 , my bad

This is getting confusing. Who's talking to who?
Our ESL might fuck things up LOL
Kalau pembicaraan ruwet kayak gini arepannya bisa pakai bhs Indo saja

>>53510426
So you put them in the same event but not together. That's pretty funky.
Is there even any other type of events where you can pull this off other than concert?

>>53510793
Jokes on you I've been samefagging for a while.

>>53510510
hmmm lekker

>>53510115
did someone managed to alt+f4 the dude thru chat

>>53510864
Put them in advertisements? Talk Shows?
Korone is in many advertisements, she also SEGA Ambassador. Suisei is in radio shows a lot. Holo really need to put ID in many Indonesian ads.

>>53511083
Kek probably
This "audience engagement" stream is always pretty iffy. Even on Twitch it's a fucking mess.

Pekora carried holoID tbdesu

>>53511123
>Talk Shows
a-are you suggesting putting the talents in a talk show but not having them talk to each other?
>Put them in advertisements?
having ads to be put into is a sign that you already made it, anon
it's the product that choose you to be in their ads, not the other way around
i think only jaret of all people managed to be in actual ID ads lmao
>Suisei is in radio shows a lot.
jeba in afa...

>>53511123
>Holo really need to put ID in many Indonesian ads
that's not how advertisements works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10TZm6eVeuE
Hello Niachi-sensei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUvH3d6fZD8
Amarynn Brutal Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk3jlFQFm4g
Nana on menkrep koleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfsGF4fKuWA
Uriel being naughty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZTHXzpPCq8
Naze on raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3naPXLTjY
Eiko also on raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7avHpT-qt8
Same with Xiel Rin as well, oh and also oppai loli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ucsh5zD8kY
Moza tiktok bookmark reveal

https://youtu.be/sHF4O61HOBI
Zoey 10k celebration!

Timnasposting anchor time!

Timnas /warkop/ is now in musyawarah for everything VTL5
>Wanna add new players? ikuzo!
>Wanna model updates? ikuzo!
>Wanna new chants? ikuzo!
>New anthems and goalhorns? ikuzo!
>Wanna train yourself into the next STY? LFG!!

If you want any changes to our rosters,musics, chants and others, plis just reply this post with your suggestions

Keep yourself updated with possible roster changes in our wiki and sourceposting
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/_Historical_Roster#/vt/_League_5
https://rentry.org/p8ger

New Players
>Purple Eggplant (Echi)
>Pretty Overt, Nya~ (Zeta)
>Hulk's Daughter (Kawi)
>Kambeng Rebahan (Alia)
>starsID doko? (homoIDbeggars)

Name Changes
>Suisei Lokal -> Sex with Deidey
>Loli Miti -> Lust with Mita
>Cute Aussie Hagsmith -> Elatief

Chant Changes
IN
>https://youtu.be/xdW55GN4PQ0
OUT
>"Ndasmu!" Jedag-Jedug
>Kobo Jedag-Jedug "Sampe Bawah"
>Koplo "Wleee~" (I don't who is she)
>"Jaya Jayalah Kobo" song
>Mixue's Song + Lato Lato

New Goalhorns
>Mita : https://youtu.be/UOfofNY2sqE
>Deisex : https://youtu.be/TUvEHcTyDz0
>Deisex Brace : https://youtu.be/bxCGjVxVshY
>Kobo (idk maybe for brace?) : https://youtu.be/PsY02tLues8?t=73

/warkop/'s Road to VTL5
>July : Rosters Musyawarah <-(You) are /here/
>Aug 11-12 : Randomized Tag Team Cup with /accelerate/ (/2434/-/NijiEN-/vsinger/)
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_Randomized_Tag_Team_Cup
>Aug 20, 2am WIB : Friendlies vs /holoX/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_5_Friendlies
>Sept 2-4, 9-11, 16-18 : VTL5
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_5

>>53514019
Karaoke again
Will I try that song again?
Maaaaaaayyyybeeeeee?

>>53510177
he keeps contradicting himself it's crazy kek

>>53510426
>HoloID gen 1 solo performance gain a lot of praise and love from everyone.
Yeah, a lot of praise. So big in fact that it gives a lost of boost to Moona and Risu.... for 2 weeks.

>>53514301
It's up to you, anon.
But I think it's okay to ask for copyrighted songs because she says some songs might be muted after the stream ends.
She has problem with her internet though.

>>53514056
>Green UI out
for inactive
>The Real Gura Killer in
to commemorate this amazing achievement from our indo brothers!! >>53492402

>>53514511
So no Disney songs whatsoever.
I wish I can ask Zoey for a song she never sing before but I let her learn that song and sing it on the next Karaoke stream.

>>53514698
You can try suggesting some new songs to her.
She tries to learn new songs from time to time.

to anon who listen to miori's asmr:
https://skeb.jp/@EllliKN97/works/37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF_CG3HW3yU
Tomio The Crew 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbrg4bOYIkQ
Cassie sings you to sleep

>>53514056
I'm suggesting a full refresh for Kobo's goalhorn.
>Normal chant
Oh Asmara
>Brace
Overdose
>Hattrick
Happy

Also idk if it's still in our chant list, but please remove the Jokowi "kerja kerja kerja" and the "wibu" chants. It's cringe and no bule understand that nor will care about it no matter how much you guys are explaining it in the chat.

We have a really funny Jhon Cena and Siuuu chant yet it never got played while those 2 cringe chants got played multiple times.

>>53514621
blindchama

>>53514434
Did you forget about the other events after that?

>>53515102
still failed to incline them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfhlZ157U8
New Hana is cute, CUTE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2G0gLTv7Jg
Talk with Non Dira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLcdABO_n1o
Roze freetalk

>>53514698
Have you requested a song?

>>53515225
They literally have another big event waiting, anon(?)

>>53510527
Pekomoon maybe?
Not really sure though

is it possible to train ai to generate voice based on someone's voice?

BUMPING DEISEX ASS
sampai gubrak ranjangnya

>>53517282
I think pekomoon arc is driving a lot attention to holo id and then the concert arc (idk about id2 tho) then id3 happen which solidify both inter and id holofans

>>53517282
>>53520199
I hate PekoMoon because Moona left Aqua.
Aqua got NTR-ed!

>>53516737
you desperately need some reading comprehension reps

>>53520480
>>>>>>>>>>still failed to incline them

>>53514301
Is that you who requested a song just now?

>>53517946
according to my youtube recommendation, apparently yes

>>53523593
thanks, i have something in mind.
no, it's not desahan manja deisex but i like that idea.

>>53520589
you desperately need some reading comprehension reps

i missed you, z
it's been a rough couple of month since your graduation

https://youtu.be/t1PX3k-Rmx8
Kawi malmingan

is this news about Obit israel?
i was joking a year ago, he is number 1 ID vtuber, its become reality

sundul page 10

>>53516708
No, I fell asleep on my sofa listening to her karaoke songs.
Feel nice tho

>>53515225
They're pretty incline anon. They still gaining sub, akasupa and merch sales.
Hell, their merch sales is so good Holo did a repeat sale of their most successful merchs

>>53492402
>>53526742
>obit
>he's not involved in vtuber community AT ALL.
he's not following the stream meta of current vtubers,
he never cares about vocaloid cover trends
>he never collab with vtubers
ID vtuber community barely discuss him at all before the articles
and the most important thing
>obit himself never claim that he's a vtuber

that's why I'm against vrchama adding him on the list. it's not because of gatekeeping, but I want to leave him alone and don't want him getting unwanted hate
by classic definition he's a vtuber even japanese people thinks so. but unless he himself identifies as such, there's no need for a debate.
since the Japanese are putting attention on him, this is now getting troublesome

>>53517946
AI is si good at voice replication they can do that with just a short recording too.

>>53521563
No Anon, I fell asleep.

POMPA HAMIL POMPA HAMIL POMPA HAMIL POMPA HAMIL POMPA HAMIL
HAMIL GA LU DEY HAMIL GA LU DEY HAMIL GA LU DEY

>HoloCure 0.6 Update
>released the whole HoloID characters
>released a game (HoloHouse) inside the game
>on 17 August

https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1680290932422512641

>>53532922
Who's that general?

>>53532922
We need to ask Jokowi to give Kay Yu Pahlawan Nasional.

>>53531205
Cope, Obit is THE REAL GURA KILLER

>>53531205
>he's not following the stream meta of current vtubers,
>current
Because he's the future!

>>53531205
>ID vtuber community barely discuss him at all before the articles
But not in /warkop/!!

>>53534503
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatot_Nurmantyo

>>53535345
Oh, that guy.

>>53480212
>Mecha /hag/ Edition
OK you got my attention.

>>53539219
But why Pomu?

ingin kenthu koyori

Help me anons, is this a boy or a girl?
I checked her(his?) instragram and she cosplay'd as both male and female characters. I'm thinking about about getting the photopacks but I'm so confused

>>53541042
my own advice, if its confusing enough then best to avoid it

It's funny seeing some anon seething because holocure add all of id gens and not jp3 lol

>>53541714
>>53541042
Doesn't matter, I'd smash if i may

>>53543362
Good good.
Those EOPs who's begging for Kobo to speak English only can get fucked.

>>53524383
She's been streaming under different handle though. Same old type content with same type of streaming persona

>>53543362
really? i thought the point of releasing id first will make the rest of jp ones easier

>>53531205
>obit himself never claim that he's a vtuber
he did appear in the vtuber podcast thingy like 9 months ago
https://youtu.be/EM1QaI7WTk0

>>53531205
is not his content basically what Kizuna AI used to do aka recorded video, then in sense he is Vtuber, he follow the OG way

>>53532922
>on his first playthrough Windah say he will play the game again when they add Kobo
INGODCHAD ARE YOU READY FOR INGODGOLD 50K CCV

>>53548927
It's confirmed, there's no doubt anymore. Obit is a real vtuber and unlike other fake one, he's the real gura killer! Indochads we're on top now!

>>53548927
>He's actually a vtuber ?
what the...
Can anyone give me a summary of this vid?
Thank you for the info anon, I didn't knew this
>Another security nail for Indonesian market after Kobo.
Nice
>>53549179
I know but he's just minding his own business and contents (which is a good mindset) and unlike other 'male' vtubers not involved in bigger vtuber community and staying away from drama. It's just weird that he doesn't care about any meta , so I assumed he knew nothing about vtubers.

>>53550835
I phrased it weirdly
I assumed that obit knew nothing about vtubers but it turns out that maybe he knew (I haven't watch that vid yet)
His popular vids are from 2 years ago when the algorithm still favor VODs unlike like now (Shorts), I hope he could adapt

>>53550835
>Kobo doesn't care about the whole catering to en meta
>2M subs
>Obit so far away from the meta he ain't even consider himself vtuber
>4M subs
the numbers! it's all wrong! the meta can't be wrong, it's the market that's stupid and poor!

ah apparently the main argument of Obit is Vtuber he has been using avatar and not show his flesh.
does that mean Manca can be considered as Vtuber?

>7 minutes in
Obit was randomly inspired from another Shiba streamer of twitch, not kizuna ai.

>>53551529
>the whole catering to en meta
I thought it was skill issue

>>53551653
wait does that means sovietwomble actually a vtuber before the face reveal?

>>53551529
Talking about Kobo, she's interviewing Valorant VA with Ragus right now

Well, /warkop/?
https://twitter.com/M4A1Chan_MC/status/1679605761578762240/retweets/with_comments

>>53551653
Manca is a faceless content creator
The main element of vtubing are
>Lore shit/roleplaying
Obit is a dog. That's his larp
>Face rigging
Which he never did

>>53552147
>Lore shit/roleplaying
is kson still a vtuber

>>53552012
>Ragus
Don't wanna watch
Should have been with Ollie or Risu.

>>53552147
>Face rigging
but muh pngtuber

>>53552249
Kson was a face content creator turned vtubers
She's a hybrid with a gangster lore, which she barely uses
Manca never has a lore.

>>53552255
Yeah me too.
Got notification on my phone, click image, Kobo and Blue Leech sitting cross legged. Immediately swipe out.
Also his crossed legs design look fucking disgusting. Why not put both of them behind a table like what normal vtubers do?

>>53552320
>PNGtuber
He's a faceless with an avatar
Korean dullahans are pngtubers

>>53548927
>>53551903

>>53552456
>Manca never has a lore.
he from asylum that's his lore

>>53552120
does youtube obliterating community caption counts

>>53552695
>Korean dullahans are pngtubers
what?

>>53552012
that's kinda cool. i don't like ragus but if he can help her with the interview then sure
>>53552255
they know nothing about valo anon (well, ollie a little bit)

>>53552456
Kson, after quitting Holo started with playing games she's not allowed to play. Turn out her games of choice aren't really popular and people stop watching. Then she start doing gunpla and while this attract new people it's not a big amount. Also I think she try to do her behind the scene herself but gave up. She finally joins Vshojo she prefer to be pampered by corpo again.
Why I have this feeling that Magni will be like Kson.....

>>53552012
>english stream
instant skip, if i want to watch en stream i watch en streamer

>>53552644
>It's less than Kobo's valoplay
Kek
>>53552916
Asylum is Garit's discord server name. It has no lore

>>53531205
>he's not involved in vtuber community AT ALL
This video was 3 months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS-fNx7nDrM

>>53553078
Zeta, moona, kaela

>>53552120
>Ask a pretty sensitive question
>Put Ollie on it
This dumbass want to start a fight lol

>>53553085
>Magni
I don't fucking cares

>>53553092
I'm fine with English stream
But adding Regis is where I draw the line.
I wish she collabed with Vesper again, the grandpa and granddaughter dynamic was great

>>53553085
homos thread is in another blocks, anon

>>53551994
nah, her english is a lot better than early moona (and you can even argue in some case still better than today's moona)

>>53552644
>Ragus is the one who carried the conversation
>Kobo only say sugoii *clap clap* kawaii gugu gaga
lmao no wonder Ragus in that stream

>>53553092
Good for you, there's an english streamer with an english VA there!!

>>53553119
It's not about the numbers, she's just a horny brat enjoying talking to her favorite valo VA

>>53553020
>Dullahans
That's what they call pngtubers in Korea

>>53553397
>Kobo suck at english
>the entire stream is just the blue homo talking with Camber VA
>Kobo is there only to react like those japan television show *clap clap clap* sugoii

>>53553193
LETSGOOO THERE'S NO COUNTER ARGUMENT ANYMORE! OBIT OBIT OBIT OBIT OBIT!!!

>>53553724
so what makes them considered pngtuber while manca ain't

>>53553813
nothing, manca is a pngtuber

>>53553724
also squid game use afreeca tv for stream, that streaming platform is the best holy shit

>>53553813
Because he's mostly faceless.
Dullahans in Korea is like a kuyangtuber

>>53553813
Manca is more like Dream before his face reveal. Faceless with avatar

>>53553724
Koreans are pretty funny. They claim to be advanced but lots of their law system are still ass backward and they had to fix it very slowly or just make it worse.

>>53554028
stop throwing more terms at me anon
i'm stupid, tell me the difference like i'm 5

like, the fuck is kuyangtuber, do they have rigging but head only?
doesn't that actually make them a proper vtuber instead of pngtuber

>>53554088
>Faceless with avatar
but how can you be faceless if you have a face in the form of avatar

>>53554292
But how can you be faceless if god gives you face in real life?
I like manca but he's not a pngtuber

>forgetting Reza Winston
he is bigger than Obit
https://www.youtube.com/live/pD5ftbTsyiA

>>53554189
You have to be more than 18 years old to post in this board

>>53554592
anon remember Indonesia is late 2-5 years in internet culture, i guarantee you majority of /warkop/ only found out about imageboard from vtuber

>>53554387
but why anon
that's what i keep asking
what is this faceless term you keep throwing around
like, is this gal faceless

>>53554738
No she isn't
The vtuber hides it behind a piece of paper

>>53554820
impeccable observation, anon
so what if the vtubers hides it... behind his avatar

>>53554399
> forgetting pewdiepie
he's bigger than whatever this community comes up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLJ9my42vR4

>>53554592
i've been 5 for 18 years so it's ok
i can also just call it meaningless buzzwords or oxymoron or whatever anyway, that also works
such is the meta

Deidey + X = https://twitter.com/xdeidey16_

>>53554399
>>53555134
and now we're back to the question of whether kson is still a vtuber

>>53555165
Good
You can ask the Koreans directly. If you are still curious >>53422373

>>53555399
Or we could talk about Indonesian chuubas instead

>>53552990
?

>>53553238
Some interesting answers and rrats that I found on both Facebook and Twitter:
>Someone fed up with Miti due to her gimmick with Bang Al. This is also the case for Komandan.
>EastIndies almost leave Miti during her menhera arc.
>Some people leave Ollie because she changed since the accidental face reveal. Others theorize she changed when she opened the membership.
>"Is she really changing? Or you're the one who changed? Or both of you?"
>"I don't like VTubers who review panties."
>"Try membership, maybe your opinion will change"
>Some people leave big mooner, and one of the reasons is because she becomes lazy (less creative, becomes more boring, still nihongo wakarimasen, sucks at JP karaoke, EP project that has gone nowhere, etc.)
>Someone knew Zeta through clips, decided to watch her stream, and regretted it. He thinks she doesn't fulfill his expectation and he's upset with the way Zeta plays the game.

>>53531205
im not into adding obit chammers into the list, unless he turns into anime style inu for 6 month.

or if there is Kobo X Obit collab, which will not ever happen since it will destroy cover IR reports for ID market rank

>>53555464
all I see is proper vtuber with facerigging over there
no kuyangtuber or whatever that means

>>53555600
+ kinda regret that i added beaconcreampie chuba account into the list since he never streams with his chuuba model again

>>53555600
You can add a new category vrchama where obit and his cute animal friends could exist in peace.
Call it face-rig content creators

>>53554399
>>53555134
Obit was a VTuber since debut and has remained a VTuber ever since. That's why it was him who finally got counted, instead of being removed from the list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0uurTCYWJA

>>53555785
???

good idea

>>53555569
but is there actual hybrid ID vtuber?
epel come close with her isekai costume, but she ain't really using it much

>>53555712
Kek I mean you ask the Korean anons about dullahans there since they are Koreans. Ofc it would be off topic so I suggest you ask about the state of KR market too as an ice breaker

>>53555911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9A5fa3mdk&t=1215s

>>53555571
>?
i thought you're talking about the question in the pic, not twitter reaction to the question in the pic

>>53556041
>show both face in stream
what the fuck

>>53555571
>EastIndies almost leave Miti during her menhera arc.
Here's a rrat
He's the simpthia OP now his oshi is Deidey

>>53554399
Windah, just like Pews or pokimane, was just a one time meme, obit is a real vtuber since beginning.

>>53555953
eh, too much work
i'll just cross-off the original argument due to lack of explanation and misuse of buzzwords
ezwinggnore

>>53556214
check at the end of stream, she's patting her own avatar (cute)

in short Obit is vtuber and those who disagree are coping

>>53556485
This.

>>53556524
It's okay
Just do it

>>53555725
Yeah, fleshtubers like that, pewd, windah, pokimane, etc are only there for the hype. But you know who's always been a vtuber since the beginning and still active? That's right, OBIT THE DOG!!

kita tidak seharusnya mengkotak-kotakan sesuatu
di hari minggu ini, marilah kita menyentuh rumput

>>53556303
>eastindies is miti alter male account
Gema i know you are here too

>>53556808
>eastindies is miti alter male account
Elaborate this rrat

>>53556733
Im willing to negotiatie on this matter if there is some spicy image in this board

the criteria for Vtuber according to anon
>only use avatar
>the avatar can move
>have a lore
Obit is a dog who play vidya game thats his lore
OBIT WON

>>53556733
inb4 anon add another rule for vtuber
>must have R+18 fanart

>>53557109
...are you implying this gal got r18 fanart

>>53531205
Speaking of vrchama where is he? I never seen him talking about this news at all even tho this is so huge that cover may unable to market Gura as no1 chuuba in the world or Kobo as no1 SEAchuuba with Obit got recognized by the JPs, also with that epep shortchuuba cruising to 1M soon, it's time to admit there's 2 faces of IDchuubas
>female streamer
>male VOD/shortchuubas

>>53556808
https://twitter.com/GGathika
her alter has bigger boobs

>>53557350
nta but hold on let me check it on nhentai

>>53556994
letsgooooooo

>>53557577
anon, he's literally /here/.... >>53555600
>>53555725

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HsmjTbX_c4
Eiko chill menkrep

>>53557350
>>53557665
suddenly I want to make a doujin of obit and kuroshiba, they would make cute puppies

>>53557577
INGODCHAD why we keep winning? we do nothing and yet we always won the race

>>53557577
here
>>53555600
+ Kobo no.1 in ID = more money from JP investor to ID spheres. i will keep it that way. remember:

Vtuber.Asia = Hololive Asia event
Vtuber.asia is about SEA VTuber = Yagoo use the word "Southeast Asia" on his interview
Agency Total Subscriber = Hololive MRT Ads on ID total Subscriber
Reine boobies icon on vtuber asia = Reine then changed her YT thumbnail icons

No meds can heal me.

>>53557801
huh, that's weird, usually he's not even scared to containment break to twitter yet now he refused to talk about Obit there, this shit really needs addressing bcuz the once the vtuber mecca got involved, it really invalidates any other arguments

>>53558189
In case of someone doubting Yagoo's decision for investing in ID market. Yagoo can just can point his finger at obit
It seems that obit is targeting the family-friendly market and it works.

>>53558384
it can, but not now. If its work, dont fix it. holoearth/verse is already a massive money spending gamble from yagoo. but i see it now its more of a premium services for traditional holo viewers + bridge for sponsorship. JP Digital market will continue to expand and it will funds ID branch development as well. Money source is still from JP and EN viewers. ID talents probably not the best SC earner but imagine the EN/JP buying the ID merchs (which is alot according as revealed in my dreams). its good business. And Hololive business longevity is directly affect ID vtuber community (artists, musician, editor, even flesh streamers). Follow the crowd and money and we can be happy + schizo at the same time.

>>53558189
You know that won't happen unless userlocal in JP matches their database with vtuber.asia, which only can happen if you contact them here afaik
https://inquiry.userlocal.jp/form/
So if you want to save holoID from Obit changing the ID landscape for good then go and beg to them lel

>>53558949
also, im betting that Re:memories and Livium is now on the "green" in terms of financial performance. Need more ID agencies to be on the green or atleast borderline green. Fleshstreamer collab + Mediashare boom + AKA entries on 2022-2023 is a live changing moment for ID market. There is this one twitch chuuba that moved to youtube, and she got more viewers, donation and even ads revenue than on twitch. If you market yourself right (dan niat), while you cant live from it, you can get something.

What im thinking now is the clipper community, how to support them. it is something that i often discuss to every agencies i meet in my dream.

>>53559387
What about DigiKagi and groomcorp? Aren't they also considered good in the terms of financial performance?

>>53559387
i probably over-something about AKA influence in there, but any JP/EN agencies in ID or recruiting ID to their EN groups is good.

>>53559387
>Re:memories and Livium
What about digikagi?
could they find another ground breaking talent like Alenka?

>>53559582
Digikagi doesnt even open mediashare. dunno about groomcorp donation number though

>>53559387
>What im thinking now is the clipper community, how to support them. it is something that i often discuss to every agencies i meet in my dream.
Interesting point, did you aware that the catalog were celebrating your tweet about fanfare ch got banned by YT? I wonder how'd you counter them

>>53560093
source or it didnt happen

>>53560164
>>/vt/thread/51435825

>>53560336
>Warosu link
stop this tourist bait

>>53560336
Oh actually the context was a bit different sorry but still, the catalog are more than happy to diss on clipfags while VRchama seems to glorify their presence as essential in growing a chuuba so I'm curious how VRchama would say if he has to speak to those doubters

>>53560336
ngl there are many coombaiting and misleading clip title from ID clippers, i think i removed 1 clipper channel from the list after seeing it myself + many complaints in the reply and DM

>>53560493
its essential (the good one). i saw a YT community without clipper is super hard to grow, they cant even reachout the anime community let alone any other related segments. its totally yikes situation, 1 view all over the place. The vampire addresed this in one of her clips, saying its time for the community to reachout the other world, thus many of them are migrating to other streaming platforms.

>>53560683
Can't blame when it still works not only for clipfags but also chuubas themselves, I mean look at Scarle or for a more local POV, Cacang, I mean just look at how she donobait recently
https://twitter.com/tomoki_s331/status/1679316552901074944

>>53561185
kek snowdrop being snowdrop. oh i see helix finally release cover songs (which is why im into vtuber). Cant release cover if there is no monies.

>>53555571
>Some people leave Ollie because she changed since the accidental face reveal. Others theorize she changed when she opened the membership.
My Rrat is that the original Ollie was vaporized by Cover agents after that accidental face receal and she's replaced with a small Indie Vtuber that's been brainwashed to make her act like Ollie.
This is why her recent surprise GFE stream was the replaement's old streamer persona trying to fight the mind control

>>53555344
content is not xxx.
where is deidey's lewd?

>>53507816
This, in fact, Yagoo is the opposite. dude stacking good karma. Any normal corpo would have fired low-number performer like Roboco or holostars, also he also could have bought his own yacht instead of investing the money to studio

>>53555571
>gimmick with Bang Al
dropped kejeblos because of this

i remember miti 2022 revenge arc: one of the thing she do is rallying her clippers. bottomline is to appreciate your clipper in any way possible.

>>53556041
It will be funnier if they face each other and start talking to each other, full schizo style.

>>53561777
How did she rally them?

>>53557350
You go ask the furries I don't want to ruin my google and youtube algorithm

>>53561735
super cringe but her singing is what kept me following her. also imagine what her gaki asmr would like

>>53557577
VRChama is /here/ anon. He actually got inspired to create a poll about NTR based on my comment.
I like it

>>53561735
>XDeidey
no sex content, am i being scammed anons

>>53561735
What's the reason anon? Are you considering yourself a unicorn or is it because you just hate AL?

>>53555571
>Someone fed up with Miti due to her gimmick with Bang Al. This is also the case for Komandan.
Now I can understand why so many unicorns left in droves when FemVtuber collabing with men a lot to the point she's thirsting over him. Collabing one in a blue moon is fine but looking at Bang Al face make me want to punch his face more and more.

>>53557645
Tante Gege pls cosplay Arlecchino. You did great fandubbing this https://youtu.be/kX0xfPe9ZpQ

>53555571
I keep forgetting we live in a conservative country and some people can't even deal with looking at female underwear or tampon.

>>53561077
dont forget Wactor Saga a.k.a "hololive but in ESP". Their downfall destroyed a chunk of the spanish community. cant simp anymore if you are traumatized by them. ID with its all drama is still on full steam. Zen and Niji downfall is still eclipsed by hololive and others growth.

>>53562213
NTA but honestly Bang Al face is very punchable

>>53562260
What is called?
>dikacangin experience
>Nyamuk / third wheel moment

https://youtu.be/rLK8yBDrvNI
Zoey handcam stream
IKUZOZO!

>>53562402
https://youtu.be/XtuqyVc4QBI

>>53562260
isnt there a meme of this, komandan and elaine facing each other? Komandan is tsundere so that gimmick will not work well with her viewers. Elaine/KJ is cegil so viewers know what to expect.

>>53562213
the way she halu bang al is disgusting.
it's like she's really thirsty for his cock.
>>53562402
this also.

>>53562468
I'm conflicted, do I keep watching Nyaruchuuu or switch to Zoey?
Delicious /choc/ vs certified Menhera

>>53562402
you guys forget luthfi ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvOov71EBAs

>>53562662
it's up to you, anon.
why not both?
are you that /choc/ anon who asks for brown indo vtubers?

>>53562531
>like she's really thirsty for his cock
Woah
Such as?
It's completely okay to feel like that anon
If some people dislike obvious thirst and want modesty
We live and raised In a conservative country after all so technically it's expected that we dislike unmodest stuffs. The average vtuber enjoyer is leaning to the left but no matter how left Indonesians are, our left is just sit somewhere in the middle spectrum if we are Americans

>>53562782
*Relatively conservative country

>>53562752
YES YES I AM!
I keep the tab for Lita and Haluapp and keep scrolling and scrolling to find the perfect indo choc
I'm also the guy who posted this >>53541042
She's not that choc but she's tanned enough.
BUT I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S A SHE OR A HE!!!

>>53562531
she is a yandere menhera who literally released a song about coli and constantly lust for cocks, what do you expect anon

>>53562782
>>53562873
>The same but different wordings
keeeeeeeeek

>>53562873
>song about coli
Hah? bijimana anon?

>>53562531

>>53562833
Indeed
Conservative, yet the football field near me (that full of semak semak on its sides) are always full with young couples having "fun" every weekend.
Every new year hospitals in the big cities are preparing their emergency room for influx of drunk motorcycle accidents
Everytime there's a Dangdut konser on an open field, there's always drunk people fighting each other
Central Java teen pregnancy is so high no one get arrested because it means imprisoning hundreds of children
Rather than interesting or educative news, our local news are busy talking about that new bride that eloping with her old boyfriend.

Conservative?

>>53562213
>>53562260
You have Zen who's considered the bridge for the ID VTuber community. Then, you have Bang Al who's punchable, according to some awanama /here/. That's why it's possible for some people to like Zen and dislike Bang Al at the same time.

>>53562873
It's supposed to be about her and MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53563185
make this into gambar utama /warkop next time

>>53563216
It's the special kind of conservative called the munafik-kuns

>>53561669
asking the real question here

>>53562525
I remember that, too. But, I'm not sure if I saw it on Facebook or /here/. Also,
>Silvia's gimmick is Komandan with Hello Kitty heart
>released this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZoWgXMUaBY
>Then, Bang Al swoon upon her for some reason
>He's chug jug with her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI0cbRGbhRQ
>Some people leave her
>Got fried by local chefs on Facebook

Wow, almost at the bump limit. Should I make new bread now? I'll take >>53563274 suggestion just for the lulz

>>53563216
>Rather than interesting or educative news, our local news are busy talking about that new bride that eloping with her old boyfriend.
Speaking about this, this is why I'm concerned the moment IDchuubas get noticed by mainstream news, imagine infotainments but with chuuba news on it, that'd put false eye to shame

>>53563493
>digoreng kikebookers
what matter is her gachis, do they leave her or not

>>53563593
It's slow SEAhours anon, we'll probably only be bumped out by 3pm so wait till that happens

>>53563684
Eh, it's Sunday. So, not really as slow for me.
So...
What's the conclusion? Is Obit a VTuber or not?

>>53559387
>Re:Memories
If only Chloe doesn't ghost her fans in the first place...

>>53563847
Relatively speaking, they (as a company) are doing fine since Echi is now taking the helm as their flagship, right?

>>53563801
>spoiler
let's just say it depends on where you look at it anon

>>53563609
I don't think those actual boomers can watch their 3+ hour stream to find the yab or perusing through kikebook and 4chan and taking rrat as truth.

>>53563993
Seems so. But, you can only do so much with one girl to spearhead the entire agency. Like Livium with Komandan. Or Alenka with Digikagi.

>>53563593
It hit bump limit and it seems that the discussion is pretty heated. I think it's time for a new bread

>>53564071
Look at trans and their brain dead contents, you think that comes from boomers? No it's zoomers

>>53564071
Seconded. Also the age demographic is way below their generation to truly care about

>>53564099
all Re:memories girl are 3view and mediashare enjoyer anon. They fare even better than livium. Probably the richest local vtuber agency

>>53562873
Seeing Kejeblos, I only thought about she better got a better L2D model than her current model.

Nyaruchuuu said that she need to stop streaming because it's her lunch hour
It's 12:30 WIB
Is Nyaruchuuu Indonesian?

>>53564218
>Mediashare being one of the biggest watched content for Indonesian streamers
Sad really. It's the lowest quality content with zero effort.

>>53564249
probably singapore

>>53564218
>all Re:Memories girls
>meanwhile Reynard

>>53564249
aint all SEA in lunch hour rn

New bread here, get in:
>>53564338
>>53564338
>>53564338

>>53564397
yo anon, one question, don't this make /warkop/ deletable for jannies?

>>53564501
Nah, it's just usual practice for a speedy thread. Also, this is the first time I see /warkop/ like this.

>>53564381
Reynard Sinaga?

>>53565006