/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>53361706
>79 bpm
She's used to seeing this huh.

>bae
We were doing so well

>>53361730
Can't be helped since Gura invite doxniggers.

>See any post shit on Mori
>That one deadbeat suddenly shows up out of the woodwork to pretend she's not a flop
>SEA hours
I like how consistent it always is

How do we save all of the latest niji waves?

>53361634
MONKEY'S PAW. They all have shit chemistry with each other and holomem. Would you still take 5 Moris?

It's ogre. Tally-chan has committed suicide.

A-chan MMD kowai

Chu~

>>53361772
faster

>>53361765
Retard
>>53361634

>>53361765
Anonchama...

>>53361725
Yeah she's used to fucking irys suspended

>>53361706
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Suisei continues to do charity
https://twitter.com/lupinus_xxx/status/1679068346153828353
>Indonesian company terminates contract with one of it's member shortly before graduation due to behavior of the vtuber
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1678993504960409601
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1679119101384609794
>New Fauna fangame
https://not-shu.itch.io/a-ceres-fauna-platformer
>Re:AcT are gettin swimsuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvmxD2H1bsI
>Aqua's game's PC port pre-orders are up
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1679324775829893121
New vsinger auditions
https://twitter.com/CHETAD_Official/status/1679068080193040386
>A-chan MMD
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1679415368744595458

Yesterday's news:
>Sixth volume of holo plushes + restocks
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1678690593336176642
>Luca on short hiatus
https://twitter.com/luca_kaneshiro/status/1678765778227847168
>Kropnii on Korean news
https://gamingonphone.com/news/grac-koreas-national-rating-board-charged-with-financial-fraud-allegations-courtesy-to-blue-archive-players/
>Nijisanji on Bilibili event
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1678720964413243392
>Tacitly in opening act of INSPIRE TOKYO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND_SjRz5Zwg
>Anykara no longer appears on vendor list of Taiwanese convention
https://www.ccpa.org tw/comic/data.php?id=509289

>>53361746
should had used a Gura thumbnail again so this thread doubles as a honeypot for doxniggers

>>53361781

Sadly 5 guras wasn't the last post

>>53361794
>>53361634
>MONKEY'S PAW. They all have shit chemistry with each other and holomem. Would you still take 5 Moris?

>75k with baseball
>barely scrape 10k with first ever new outfit
I don't get it.

>>53361836
Beep.

What about five ames?

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>shit OP
>shit thread
It is baffling that some sharts think "oh nyo she is just like Marine" for Bae's stream when Pekora stated that she played that game exactly because she looks like Marine. Fucking sharts never watch JPs.

You guys will here here on Saturday right?

>>53361849
Boop.

>>53361836
>shitting on Idios
Do you really?

>>53361860
Enboard
Enthread
Crawl back to jp if you don't like it

How do you footfags keep letting this idiot remake the thread before you half a dozen times? Your wrists finally giving out?

>>53361854
With six of her we might get one functioning Ame

What about 5 kiaras?

>>53361878
I will watch it from the game in 4K

They restocked the holo summer goods again and didn't announce it
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololivesummer2023_goodsvol1_resale
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololivesummer2023_acrylicstand_sh_resale

Only group not riding into the gutter or stagnant right now is Holo JP. Really need someone to make some waves. Carrying industry alone is a heavy weight.

>>53361892
>footfags
>s
Here's the secret anon, there's only three people who regularly makes the number threads and the footfag appears to be taking a vacation these few days so that leaves me in charge

>>53361891
There is no problem with being EN-only watchers but there is a huge problem with being proud of its own ignorance.

This is just deflection at this point isn't it

Suisei is a glownigger...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AeS3qR8REQ

>>53361860
go back to /jp/, dogfucker

Hear me out, 5 Kaelas but yuropeens

>>53361860
>pretends to watch pekora
Nijifaggot, you already tried this approach

Fubuki was talking shit, but it turned out she's the weakest link. Couldn't even make it 1/3 of the way with no distractions. Shame! I was expecting more from the fox goddess!

>>53361634
>subs
>mindshare
>"big brand collabs"
>streams "the most"
>No mention whatsoever about being actually entertaining
Smells like Nijinig to me.

>>53361891
Your threads always suck though
>>53346677
>>53307096
>>53293408
>>53237858

>>53361943
every single time

>>53361926
Less stocks this time since Suisei is only 1500

>>53361945
Deflection for what?

>>53361526
if it's anything but EN3 people will riot

>>53361868
>Hoodfag upset about J-rap.
I consider this a positive.

>>53361965
Anon what the fuck are to talking about, nijiniggers are the ones who constantly push
>subs don't count
>sponsorships don't count
>music numbers doesn't count

>Salonpas reclined from 100k to 4k ccvs
>Dedicated clip channel also reclined with her in real time, from 1mil clips to 1k
Thought ???

>>53361965
Did you smell the shit that came from their fingers when they finger banged their prostate?

>>53361926
And they also added stock to to those who have not sold out so i'm stopping the tracking for this on my end.

>>53361976
holokeks status?

>>53361754
SEA loves NijiEN

>>53361940
Apply rope.

when did hating on nijisanji becomes normiecore???

>>53362010
>get called a gura killer
>gets killed
The circle of life

>>53361991
It would be well deserved at that point but nothing happened all the other times they gave out a cryptic announcement that turned out to be a dud

>>53361968
Skill issue on your end

>>53361940
If you're going to continue to use bait OP and Bae, I'm going to camp the catalog when we're on page 10 too

5 Kroniis

>>53362026
Seethe

>>53361868
Seeing normies shit on Mori is funny because These are the Literally same people who'll demonize you for watching the same content they do.
>I like Kobayashi but the show is made for pedos
A total Lack of self awareness. Ironic weebs
>my oshi is so and so but I'll be Parasocial
Ironic vtuber fans

>>53362028
Since 2%

>>53361891
>Trying to start Holo vs Holo.
Nijifag? Idolshill? Indie subsfaggot?

>>53362009
They literally push whatever benefits them in the moment anon. I'm surprised you haven't cottoned on to that yet.

>>53362010
her channel is propped up almost entirely by hololive viewers at this point, but she isn't actually part of the box, so she doesn't get the benefits associated with it.

>>53362028
Around the same time zaion got character assassinated immediately after nijisanji hurt false and khyo just enough to make them angry

>>53361991
That's why they haven't said shit about it since.

Why is this stream not popular? Is he just that shit?

>>53362062
oh wow

>>53362023
no I don't why would I waste my time on watching a shit version of OfflineTV from 2020?

>>53362010
She should pull a Luna.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGhdCOVmTaM
Holokoshien???

>>53362028
since black company
for some reason when i say that i hate niji on public, normalfags assume that i hate the company
NO, i hate both the talents and the corp

>>53361943
>>53361979
>don't watch western flavor chuubas like Phase, Idol and vshojoEN because their contents are cater towards actual westerners
>can't watch holoJP which are the only groups that suit their taste live because they never did their reps
>the only people they can watch are the 10 whores
The result is eternal seethe against the homos who "ruined" their whores and the perpetual cries for "EN3". Being non-westerners is hard enough but some people still chose to limit their choices by not learning a new, easy-to-lean language.

>>53362047
Go rope, tourist.

>>53361976
BTFO
chairs even included this time!

>>53362073
Yeah, it will probably be something dumb like edgy council outfits

>>53362098
>easy-to-lean

>>53362040
I honestly don't care what we use for the op as long as its a Holo and not random gacha shit

Summoning EN3

>>53362099
Never leaving, seethe

>>53362010

Salami was the multi level marketing scheme of vtubing. Only normie consoomers, twitter drones and braindead /here/ nijisisters fell for it.

>>53362089
Yes SEA loves NijiEN according to this thread.

>>53362098
Don't you think you think too highly of yourself if you consider Japanese -- or any language for that matter -- easy to learn?

>>53362099
Where's the gift shop?

>>53362119
I told you it doesn't work unless you put in all 10, this is why en3 never comes

>>53362062
That's actually really grim. I assume it ended up being true that when people got tired of her they ended up at Hololive.

Remember to do your dailies everyone, holoearth got an update too so get it updated for the concert as well!
Also check out the stage, the building process advanced once more!

>>53362132
re-catto this catto please

>>53362134
What the fuck are you talking about, every time nijisanji gets shat on the nijiniggers start screaming about seanigs this and seanigs that

>>53362098
Yeah there is a reason they can't understand what phasefags are talking about when spying in their threads. Both holofans and nijifans are mostly SEA or second-class NA who don't participate in the NA internet culture.

>>53362119
Bring them all in. NOW.

>>53362114
>newfag tourist trying to change thread culture
Told you about letting SEA get comfortable here

>>53361965
Mori get's some numbers despite sabotaging herself multiple times but she's a pretty bad holo so if you have multiple bad holos getting numbers you have a shift in the branch and fanbase that can't be contained I bet many old fans would leave, perhaps more than tempus pushed out because bad holos will collab with your oshi even if it's Gura and poison whatevers left of what we enjoyed.

>>53362073
Proof next thread?

>>53362151
how do I bypass the antivirus thing

>>53362141
He said easy-to-lean anon. He's been hitting the drankies.

>>53362096
She was secretly watching her sister and wants to play baseball as well

>>53362172
And the nijinigger reveals himself at last

>>53362171
What?

>>53362180
Uninstall your cheat engine

>>53362119
you fool this ritual will only bring about the greediest of whores

>>53362172
Why are oldfags so slow?

>>53362180
Delete your cheat engine appdata folder

>>53362167
You mean oldfags who find kiwi lolcowshit, twitch and Twitter culture physically repulsive and wish microplastic sterilization upon the zoomer simp hordes.

>>53362028
For normies? Zaion book of grudges. 2%. Liver retarded controversies and schizo fanbase drama. Before nijiCN the only people who hated Niji were /vt/ schizos who know their history, always keeping their ears on the ground on the kind of shit that niji is capable of. That's pretty much it. It seems that sentiment is slowly bleeding out and normies are discovering a newer perspective on the things they think they like.

>>53362197
Why are you honestly like this halschizo?

>>53362114
>a holo
I'm against this because I know my oshi will never be on it
keep it neutral as per tradition

>>53362141
Let's say both of us are from LATAM with similar background, I can still definitely laugh at you for only knowing Spanish while I can read and write in English.

>>53362238
It's my mental illness, I get to choose the coping mechanism

>>53362128
Definitely the indiefag. Remove yourself from this earth.

>>53362028
pivot point was when they came for khyo and false then didnt do fucking anything after such a posturing gesture

How the fuck is NijiEN so popular in Europe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND2rjK19t3s

>>53362237
And you can blame nijisanji corporate for being retarded and pissing off the drama fags without actually killing any of them

>>53362235
No I mean people that actually understand what is important in the anglosphere culturally and not some JP-wannabe that can't even understand Japanese.

>>53362263
They actually stream at EU hours for one, I heard it helps
Wouldn't call them popular in any capacity tho

>>53362114
>This is a complaint that started in the couple of weeks.
Holy newfag tourist.

>>53362172
>>newfag tourist trying to change thread culture
HOLY NEW FAG

>>53362263
Are they?
Are they actually?

>>53362255
did he dub that himself or was that another guy

>>53362263
europe loves sluts and faggots

>>53362297
They are more well-known in EU compared to Hololive for sure. Hololive couldn't even fill an auditorium

>>53362263
Because they stream during EU hours? Enna just got 4k during EU hours by playing Pokemon.

>>53362286
If you honestly think that EN streaming sphere was anything but giant and repulsive pile of refuse to everyone but people in it for last 15 years then you shouldn't really claim any knowledge on anything cultural

>>53362208
Thanks senpai, why the fuck does this software have kernel 0 access? Is it safe to give my data to Imperial Japan?

>>53362326
Oh look here come the nijiniggers with their half truths and lies again

>>53362286
>Anglosphere culture
>ultra late stage empire suicidal ethnomasochism

Yeah no anon, no one capable of reading books would laud anglosphere culture.

>>53362309
You're failing at fitting in.

>>53362309
>thread culture is SEA
Time to start a revolution.

>>53362353
You are failing at larping as an oldfag

>>53362119
>they'll announce EN3 right after the Link Your Wish HoloFes to ride the 3D debut hype
>they'll announce EN3 right after ID3
>they'll announce EN3 right after Uproar, it's too crowded right now
>they'll announce EN3 on Golden Week, THE EN3 IS REAL
>they'll announce EN3 on June/July
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempu-bahahahahha
>they'll announce EN3 right after summer, just you see
>they'll announce EN3 right after Council anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 right after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those free days, they can even be horror themed
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 right before HoloX's anniversary, trust the plan...
>they'll announce EN3 just before New Years, trust the PLAN
>they'll announce EN3 right after the new Tempiss gen no one asked for, TRUST YAGOO
>they'll announce EN3 before Our Bright Parade HoloFes, just think about the potential watchalong kino
>they'll announce EN3 right after HoloFes and both ID3 and Uproar anniversaries, y-you can't have a gen announcement on a Fes
>they'll announce EN3 this first week of April, the timing can't be more perfect
>they'll announce EN3 on either Golden Week, again, or the first week of May, again, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE, THE EN3 IS STILL REAL
>they'll announce EN3 right before the HoloEN concert for yet again another unfulfilled kino watchalong
>they'll announce EN3 on the HoloEN concert in LA - GET HYPED HOLOCHADS, THE TIME IS NOW!
>they'll announce EN3 on the Myth English textbook shilling collab
.
.
<<<YOU ARE HERE>>>
.
.
>they'll announce EN3 right after the Tempus anniversa-ahahahaha
>they'll announce EN3 right after HoloSummer and the ID 3D lives that takes up the whole of July and August
>they'll announce EN3 after Council anniversary (2 YEARS WITHOUT A NEW GEN BTW)
>they'll announce EN3 after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those empty weeks again, you gotta believe me this time
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 on the actual fucking holiday season, just in time before ShilloX's 2nd Anniv
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempiss 2 celebrates their anniversary that should have been EN3's in the first place
>they'll announce EN3 right before 2024 HoloFes so they can watch JP7 and maybe even ID4 show off their 3Ds, boy I sure wish they could have joined them, if only...
>they'll announce EN3 right before politicians and think tanks use chuubas as a scapegoat for the upcoming US elections
>they'll announce EN3 when...

>>53362165

>>53362349
better than 100% like LIEVERSElive.

>>53362353
When was the 24hr tally first posted, anonfag-kun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOVrnwF5Wc

>>53362374
Sometimes I feel bad for holofags because they will keep waiting while we get to enjoy the new people

>>53362391
China is not part of SEA.

>>53362329
didn't fauna get more than double that when she did her hitman thing?

I miss graph anon.

>>53362352
At the very least they are truly a part of anglosphere culture, not some Japanese-culture-larping that refuse to actually understand their culture and get confused what the anime they are watching is about.

>>53362391
>hong kong
>sea
Do you really

>>53362416
>china
where?

>>53362203
So five Chloe's for EN3?

>>53362414
>enjoy the new people
Do you?
Do you actually?

>>53362416
>>53362429
Burger's education, please andastan

>>53362425
Classic.

>>53362442
At least we have new people. You fags will just have to wait for eternity, I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7PTffv02k

>>53362442
odds on wave 9 giving us our first 2view nijien stream?

>>53362428
Anon being a weeb doesn't require wishing to be Japanese, modern communication and translation services add eastern media to the global culture opting for it over negroid worshipping dramafag psychos is a commonplace choice all across the world.

>>53362263
Don't gaslight. They are not. If they are, it will be shown on Twitter trending which it didn't.

>>53362465
Better than holofags having a new gen again

>>53362203
What en3 candidates are there that won't be?

>>53362391
And also it doesn't actually mean much considering this is the result i got when I search for hololive en, unless you really believe HoloEN fans are mostly Bolivian

>>53362010
Salome is a social experiment from Anycolor&Bilibili to see how much they can push a youtube channel into the algorithm by using bots, and how long the bots can hold its ground. And as you can see Anycolor succeeded, they got their data, and Salome is no longer needed. That's why she never collab or participate in big events in the first place, Anycolor treat her channel like a plague, no Niji want to put their face on her thumbnail because they are all afraid she could hurt their algo

>>53362374
Woah, >>53362098 is absolutely correct. You are not powerless. Either
1. Buy Cover's share and force Yagoo to debut EN3 in 2 weeks time.
2. Learn Japanese to watch the content you wanted
3. Learn to watch other EN vtubers.
4. Watch anime
5. Play games
1st option requires the most effort and 5th requires the least (arguably). But they are options. EN3 whiners make no sense if you realize you have choices.

>>53362465
I bet half a ball on that

>>53362492
>Learn to watch other EN vtubers
We only watch hololive here anon

His numbers have declined by nearly 3/4
What went so horribly wrong?

>>53362484
who would you consider candidates is the question i would raise to you.

>>53362513
Pic related might give you a clue

>>53362062
You guys really should post total chatter number along with these image because it can get misleading otherwise

>>53362516
wolfychu. bao. miori etc

>>53362242
Who's your oshi?

>/vt/: Pekora is Le Bad!!!
>People outside of here:

>>53362492
You can kill yourself, yet you don't
Why do you constantly cling to something as pointless as you life when instead you could exercise your freedom of choice by doing a really sick flip from tenth floor on live stream?

>>53362566
these just feel like a hodgepodge of names ive seen tossed around for no reason over the past few weeks. if you are talking about well established girls like them then sure money is a solid endgame motivator.

Alinity, amouranth, kiarakitty, mia malkova, taylor jevaux

The SEX gen

You people here are constantly wondering why are here on this board zero JSL JP watchers but when someone tell you to learn Japanese and watch JP you immediately go for "you will never be Japanese" essays. Honestly both hilarious and baffling.

>>53362203
>greediest
Good. That means they won't collab with males

>>53362609
Can't wait to see all of them collab with Vesper

>>53362474
>being a weeb doesn't require wishing to be Japanese
Nobody said that you should want to be a Japanese to be a weeb. The thing about being a weeb is the desire to enjoy Japanese culture as much as you can but modern "weebs", or dare I say, "ironic weebs", just want to enjoy something that look like Japanese but is in English so they can understand with their pea brains.
>negroid worshipping dramafag psychos
Sad to see your brain is filled with BBC and always think about them. They seldom even talk about blacks nor actively involve in drama for the views. Even the yabbit is has very few drama nowadays. Talking about her, you noticed that she actually did a georaphy stream for US because that is the majority of her viewerbase while holoENs' viewers are bored when they mention America or Canada.

>>53362604
We LOVE the number bunny, miss Usada in this thread.

>>53362604
Because vt don't watch jps and think all of them bot their numbers while EN numbers are culled.

>>53362627
>you people here are constantly wondering why are here on this board zero JSL JP watchers
In what universe?

Thankfully Pekora wont overlap Miko today since she's being lazy. With this Miko should be able to finally get a gold after being blocked so many times by all the overlaps.

>>53362653
Cope

Apex is having some esport day or something btw
China is trying to start a war in their chat

>>53362608
they're big indies with connections to hololive that's why

>>53362648
So you are saying /jp/ is botting. Interesting

>>53362569
He's in a wall now.

>>53362653
Is there even any baseball stream today to challenge gold?

>>53362604
She is a nijienabler, she deserve the hates for opening up Hololive to nijinigger

Is there something wrong with youtube rn? JP numbers seem oddly low across the board.

>>53362627
It is actually easy to know who are the usual posters in /vt/, look at these posts >>53362416 >>53362444 >>53362429
>HK is not part of SEA!!
>We do not watch nijiEN!! Don't smear the SEA people!

>>53362694
vtubing is OVER pack it up go home.

>>53362672
theres probably a Taiwanese team in there or something

>>53362527
>HoloEN purging the grays
BASED
>NijiEN purging the grays
DISGUSTING

>>53362635
>She only got groomed by the e celebs twice!
>She knelt to twitterfags just once
>She says jokes from Twitter and pol based!

Delusion. You would watch Chris chan rim a horse because fundamentally you are the Muarry viewer cable TV trailer trash except younger and watching the internet equivalent.

>>53362716
Nigger his membership wasn't even open in the first image

>>53362513
do you think this could improve his number?

>>53362028
when they abused copyright to go after the dramatubers.

Soon

>>53361805
>flare is doing her birthdayparty3DminiLIVE on the 15th
https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1679094410754281472

>>53362635
I'll agree with the other anon. This whole thing started with >>53362098
>don't watch western flavor chuubas like Phase, Idol and vshojoEN because their contents are cater towards actual westerners
and >>53362167
>who don't participate in the NA internet culture.
This is true and that's the defining characteristic of the Hololive audience for the most part. They want to OPT OUT of the prevailing North American internet culture.

Whoever is doing that won't touch Phase or Idol with a ten thousand feet people as that would just be a return to what they are escaping in the first place.
The charge being made here is that
>if you don't want to watch what caters to the western audience you are not a western, and likely a SEA
That's not true. There is a huge segment of people in the western world (as proven by the HoloEN audience) that deliberately wants out of the type of content people make to cater to westerners (and north americans in particular).

>>53362653
>He think a sub 30k stream would affect Miko
Lol you are underestimating her

What are the numbers on talents who are left handed

>>53362748
>can't even get proper studio time because shillX is constantly doing 3D shit

>>53362330
Anglosphere streamers, which includes foreigners streaming in English and adapt to the anglosphere culture, most of the time have better charisma than what the mainstream media shit out. You fell for the propaganda that people not conforming to the current status quo is "icky".

*Towa stare*

I remember we were so excited about Cover's studio, with up to 7 recording booths!
And now 3D Lives are getting delayed constantly...

>>53362721
>You would watch Chris chan rim a horse
Mother fucker you watched that shit and still act high and mighty in front of me?

>>53362694
Just nothing interesting going on atm

please tell me people talked about covers new report that came out.

>>53362779
How is their charisma, whatever it may be, relevant to public perception of streamers and their overall irrelevancy in EN cultural sphere?

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1679426496941948928
Gold.

>>53362824
lol

>>53362779
>most of the time have better charisma than what the mainstream media shit out.
Yeah, you'll have to put some names in this statement because you seem to be painting a figure of the "mythical good western streamer" that might be very hard to prove
Every successful one is successful exactly because he caters to what the mainstream in their respective regions are consuming, and in the north american case, it's not a good thing

>>53362744
I honestly don't know what they were thinking doing that. It's like they expect them to just fold and back down after receiving a single copystrike, like they have no idea how people on the Internet operate

>>53362734
>huh, it must be fake no way he do-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJIEiSbUO8
ISRAEL
so what Vox hoping to gain by doing this?

>>53362814
Link?

Everyone like Suisei in bikini

Yeah, the VOLTACTION dude is not doing too hot

What's this?

>>53362858
Hoping to pull his dwindling numbers out of a tailspin, and he's desperate

>>53362513
>abandons his audience (chinese women wanting BFE
>cucks them on stream
>nonstop bitching and whining about numbers
>very blatant seems to detest the same people who pay his bills
I don’t blame the sisters for leaving

Answer her question

>>53362651
Are you saying that they are JP viewers here or are you saying that some people don't wonder about JP viewers? Or both?

>>53362857
>It's like they expect them to just fold and back down after receiving a single copystrike, like they have no idea how people on the Internet operate
Their mistake was not following through. Had they managed to kill FalseEyeD his detractors would come out of the woodwork and celebrate his demise.
Instead they thought they could merely intimidate them and
>I STILL CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE
fucking Khyo, a /here/ (as in here in this thread) retard managed to survive and dunk on them

>>53362871
owari da.... we are declininhg
its the q1 report
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/8b8f1dd7/e496/4759/be9d/d0b615b2b131/20230612180242646s.pdf

>>53362905
With pride and dignity, like a proper nousagi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xOHOPGfGVU

Count the Guras, /#/.

>>53362876
>no bots for the shitter
It'd have been kekworthy if it wasn't so fucking sad.

>>53362758
I know what you are talking about and we are in agreements in many things, except for the number part.
Yes there are people that dislike anglosphere internet culture and like the "idea" of Japanese-like streams, but at the same time, paradoxically, don't want to learn Japanese to enjoy the actual Japanese stream. However as you may see, this kind of ironic content is niche among the niche, with less than 10 chuubas that fits their category because they exclude Mori and Kronii from this category for reasons that we are not going into details. It is not really in huge demand in the part of the world that actually matter. More people would rather watch m*les like Vedal and "whores" like vhosjo, or Ironmouse in particular because the people that actually matters like the chuubas cater to their own culture more often than not.

>>53362857
They expected them to behave like spineless nips who fold like a house of cards the moment they receive any kind of rebuke, not like non cucks who treat it like a personal insult and vow revenge. So basically they haven't learnt a single thing since they challenged America to a grudge match at pearl harbor

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1679409682044313600
Pekora retreated

>>53362653
It's Marine gold today anon. No need to start the PekoMiko timeloop.

>>53362775
Based. Leaf lovers deserve nothing.

>>53362944
5
>there is one in my heart

>>53362926
Even i would have celebrated if they took them down, now i just laugh as they constantly find new angles to attack nijjisanji with out of spite

>north american culture.

More like twitch streamer culture roru. Also same shit already happened to the b2 chuubas. Their whole circle declined hard because they embrace their chink streamer culture and let them integrate into the chuuba culture. Everyone does clickbait low effort drama content until everyone declines hard. The chinks are already regretting hard. Ever wonder why asoul is the number one corpo there? Because they follow holo's format and nobody even comes close to their numbers including virtualreal.

>>53362927
Anon, that's the Q4 report, not q1

>>53362927
>may 12th

>>53362957
more than a hour ago
you guys are so slow

>>53362797
Deep.
Source? It doesn't look ai but nothing's finding it.

>>53362951
>with less than 10 chuubas
Why do you speak like only HoloEN follows the holo streaming type in the west?
Are you sure you talking about English streaming culture and not the Twitch one?

>>53362773
all I'm saying is that miko with no overlap is a guaranteed gold. If pekora hadn't overlapped her so many times she would have been able to fight koshien by herself. How is that underestimating her?

>>53362961
even pekora can't get studio time, but holoX never run into any issues. it's weird.

More clip numbers.
A fairly slow day (Thursdays amirite), with no-one breaking 1M. Sad days for clips.
Split today is 15.0M(-810k) HL to 10.4M(-300k) NJ.

Don't get hard!

>>53362926
I for one loved that whole shitshow. Dramaniggers getting shut down would be hilarious. The reality where Anycolor got caught with their dick in their hand was funny too.

>>53362951
>You gotta learn a dying language right as AI translation builds a global tower of babel because you just do ok! I love sexpest twitch streamers and livestream fails!

Unhinged

>>53362815
>>53362849
You are probably conflating mainstream media's smear campaign with public perception.
Western streamers are mostly male dominated and you can easily find them in any charts available on the internet.
>very hard to prove
We literally have hard numbers on this. Sure most of you think twitch number is magic number but they are still league above Japanese companies like Cover, Anycolor and Kawaii Production. Even if you just include vtuber agency vshojo, phase are bigger in the actual anglosphere but the irrelevant part of the world wouldn't watch them and know what their appeal is.

>>53363024
Graph.

>>53362151
>support for linking twitter accounts has ended
is it worth recovering the old account from the last test concert? were there usernames last time? i can't remember

>>53363016
You are implying she need no overlap to fight Koshien. I think she can do it even with overlap

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>53363024
Though a slow day, NJ wins with their ongoing event. Valorant CR Cup Scrims
Split today is 4.3M(-530k) HL to 2.1M(+20k) NJ.

>>53363035
So your proofs for everything is
>The media and internet lie, streamers are totes western culture despite me having no proof
>Unrelated shit
>They are totally bigger than your shitty corpos
>Still nothing relevant to main arguments or any proofs

>>53363010
Phase and Idol are not twitch.

>>53363031
Yeah ignorance is strength! Loving foreign culture is based! Oh but don't tell me to learn the foreign language to enjoy the actual culture instead of the shadow of the culture that I am currently enjoying and pretend to be the real one.

>>53363062
Graph.

>>53363051
You can just make a new account but good luck getting a good name

>>53363024
More clip numbers by Source.

Vtubers for this feel?

>>53362927
It's an old one but it has a nice overview by the CTO (?). Here it is, in two imageboard sized pics

1/2

>>53363055
But she hasn't been able to so far? Today might be the exception to the rule with the bots having a break day.

>>53362927
>>53363109
2/2

>>53363063
>The media and internet lie
Yes.
>Unrelated shit
Like?
>They are totally bigger than your shitty corpos
Numbers. And by numbers I mean
- numbers of actual JP streamers delivering actual JP cultures
- numbers of EN streamers cater to the anglosphere cultures
Both of them have way higher numbers than whatever holo,niji or kawaii is trying to get because it is a niche within a niche.
>Still nothing relevant to main arguments or any proofs
Sorry but I couldn't catch up, where is the goalpost supposed to be right now?

>>53363111
It largely depend on Koshien number of the day desu, but the grim fact is that HoloJP best number yesterday is only like 30k-ish
Only collab seem to bring ok numbers nowadays

footanon please come back

>>53363111
>>53363055
Stop arguing, it's Marine's gold today.

>>53363104
Holy shit reminds me of this meme.

Have rushia and pikamee collabed yet

>>53361758
Niji just needs another mixed wave everyone loves those

Why is it taking so long for Cover to debut EN3? Do you think they are aware of the decline in male Vtubers?
Do you think they regret their decision on debuting 8 faggots instead of EN3? Now the damage is permanent and they missed their chance on EN3.
I just want to punch whoever push Tempus and male propaganda in EN management.

>>53363170
True, honestly I think cover needs to implement a rule of no overlaps allowed when Miko is streaming, since she's the ambassador after all. That should get the fans watching the streamer they are supposed to.

>>53363031
Please that want Hololive experience did their reps long time ago. People that did not want to do their reps are stuck with Holo EN or moved on. Simple as.

>>53362609
Give them all sex designs and great live2D riggings and we already have a Myth killer lineup on our hands.

>>53363176
>>53363248
Koshien number of the day? Have anyone streamed yet?

>>53363267
kys ESLtard

>>53363139
the only reason twitchtubers have big numbers is because they are tied to the popularity of gaming, that is why every western streamers carrier peaked at fortnite they arnt really more relevent then holos the market just behaves differently
also if you want to suck fleshtuber cocks so badly then go somewhere else your twitchwhores will never be relevent.

also double cheak your "numbers" retard there is only one streamer bigger in japan then usada pekora that is daruma.

>>53363104
Isn't that his wife?

>>53363237
>Do you think they are aware of the decline in male Vtubers?
If they aren't, they are simply unironically mentally impaired.

>>53363031
I always like this "AI can make language irrelevant" cope but judging by how shit the live translation and how ENkeks can't watch JP lives except for the concert, it is not fucking true but they chose to believe their own cope, justifying to themselves that they shouldn't learn a simple language just to increase the amount of things they can enjoy in life.

>>53363237
Why is it taking so long for JP7 and ID4? This is the longest ever Cover has not debuted new girls.

>>53362951
>It is not really in huge demand in the part of the world that actually matter.
True and you said it well, it is a niche within a niche.
It is a very lucrative niche too, and one almost thoroughly dominated by a single company which is the only one offering that particular product right now.
>More people would rather watch m*les like Vedal and "whores" like vhosjo, or Ironmouse in particular because the people that actually matters like the chuubas cater to their own culture more often than not.
True but, as mentioned above and in >>53362758, Hololive found themselves a completely unoccupied niche
>entertainment for people that aren't really interested in watching what caters to the current North American (and western) content preference.

They went to corner that market and achieve a success so resounding that their original five members of the English speaking branch ended up becoming synonymous with "sucessful vtuber" in the western world and the measuring stick for the whole rest of the industry.

>>53363035
>We literally have hard numbers on this
Anon, did you misread >>53362849? Here is the full exchange
>(>>53362779) most of the time have better charisma than what the mainstream media shit out.
>(>>53362849) you'll have to put some names in this statement because you seem to be painting a figure of the "mythical good western streamer" that might be very hard to prove

You are saying there are streamers catering to the north american and western market that get big numbers and that's obvious and needs no proof.
The whole conversation is about the type of content they make, and how there is a huge segment of the audience that deliberate avoid that exact type of content, and how Cover managed to secure that "opted out" market for themselves and thrive with it.

>>53363306
Lol there’s at least 3 Japanese fleshstreamer stronger than Hololive I can name

>>53363322

>>53363237
Omegay's mediocre planning, staffing shortages and internal reorganization of the branch after the defenestration of Omegay. These are what I'd guess have caused delays.

>Sitting in pig pen for subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nAqupQdw30

>>53363291
Lize and Yashiro in 30min. Ovelapping.

>>53363343
name them

>>53363291
Currently at 27k and on an upwards trend, but there is more baseball to come.

>>53363343
Jun, Korekore and who else?

>>53363343
Jun is reclining whore anon

so close

>>53363306
You are trying to conflate my points with fleshstreamers when I clearly said JP delivering JP cultures, which of course include the holoJPs. My point remains that the people here chose to limit themselves in a corner and cried about why there are very few people cater to them.

Twitch fleshbags inclined with games but they also keep some viewers to themselves after the game itself reclined. Most of the people from NA/EU(UK) watch livestreams on twitch which is why vshojo is bigger than both phase and idol. With Ironmouse and Vedal we can kinda gouge the interest of actual relevant viewers towards western content with avatar. It is a niche so truth be told it is not that much number wise. But as I said, it is a niche within a niche. Cover is smart to not flood the market unlike Anycolor. By keeping the supply side low, they can keep the demand side artificially high.

>>53363356
>fucking the pig

>>53363391
Hikakin? Crazy Racoon?

>>53363302
Sorry I will make it simple. Grug says JP numbers good because funny, EN numbers bad because unfunny

>>53363104
Salome is Zelensky. Pumped and dumped once the use is over

>>53363237
>Do you think they are aware of the decline in male Vtubers?
if they are not, then they deserve everything bad that is coming to them

>>53363442
This is just a roundabout way to deflect from the lack of en3 like every scared 2view and homosister that think their days are numbered when they eventually debut

>>53363462
Hikakin is not a streamer and when he does lives he usually (barred when he does a milestone) languishes in the 10k-20k range.
Crazy Racoon is not a person

>>53363391
fps_shaka

>>53363422
pekora had 8.5m if you add the 3 months from holodata

>>53363490
Lol these homobegging faggots and 3view indies are delusional. Not like the people waiting for EN3 are watching them anyway, and if they are and stop just because EN3 debuts, then they were shit vtubers anyway.

>>53362098
>easy-to-lean
Did Mori make this post?

>>53363502
>Jun
Sure, but he's reclined from his heyday
>Kore
A drama news channel
>Fps_shaka
Twitchtracker stars: 28k peak, 15k average. He's more an equal to the first army's average days at BEST, and that's being generous and not counting the difference between twitch/YouTube.

>>53363422
its funny to see the sub disparity between pekomiko and kuzuha compared to the fleshtubers, all of them have a higher sub count then 5 mil upto 15 mil

>>53363109
What the fuck is Myth's problem? Council usually respects big Myth collabs but Myth always bulldozes over council events

>>53363494
>>53363462
One funny thing about this whole thing is that there is a HUGE japanese live streamer that usually gets 18k, 20k, 23k every time he streams and most in this thread (barred the ones from the live-.ranking era) has no idea
>hiroyuki aka HiroMoot
https://www.youtube.com/@hirox246

He has a good VOD game as well, with his numbers he would mog every single male vtuber on Youtube except maybe Kuzuha
>luggage lad could never

>>53363329
Lots of words circulating back to the points I made, but
> there is a huge segment of the audience that deliberate avoid that exact type of content, and how Cover managed to secure that "opted out" market for themselves and thrive with it
was never a point made by me. I did include Cover, Anycolor and Kawaii because they are Japanese companies. Again you don't flood a niche because it will left everyone with crumbs and make the system collapse.
>most of the time have better charisma than what the mainstream media shit out
Yes I pointed out that you can do it by comparing their numbers.
>mythical good western streamer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitch_channels
By good I mean numbers, and you can't get numbers without charisma.
From YT side, there are mostly political streamers/content creators but they sometimes do gaming streams too. Let's be honest anglosphere is very political so this is what you get, and I don't think I can complain because they are interesting and things that actually matters.

>>53363422
link https://streamscharts.com/news/youtube-gaming-streamers-q2-2023?utm_campaign=news_posts&utm_medium=sc_socials&utm_term=2023_07_12

>>53363555
Didn't mean to quote

>>53363560
You think redditors, which is like 80% of this thread, approaching 90% right now, know who Hiromoot is?

>>53363490
If anything, the lack of en3 is putting a damper on the entire en industry, it is my firm belief that most of these indies (not the homos) can only get to "the next level" of growth if the en scene gets reinvigorated by a new event from hololive english to attract more tourists or give those who have left a reason to return to the scene

>>53363422
she won in this atleast

>>53363560
buy an ad

>>53363490
Roru everything has to be about EN3? If the point can't get across your head you are hopeless.

>>53363502
>fps_shaka
Nope. His average in 2023 is 19k, his highest stream was 57k.
His average in 2022 was 22k so it's not that he reclined a lot, it is the Holo girls that inclined past him

>>53363554
Fact of the matter is fleshstreamer have more reach than Vtuber, hence more sub
Vtuber are inherently limited in the kind of content they can produce

>>53363602
if anything, it's hololive who should be buying ads since they're leeching hard on this site's mindshare.

>>53363581
case in point >>53363602

>>53363604
You are using the same reasoning as those tards

>>53363566
>By good I mean numbers, and you can't get numbers without charisma.
If that's your definition I am not interested in this conversation anymore. Thanks for your time so far

>>53363589
>If anything, the lack of en3 is putting a damper on the entire en industry
No, it is the lack of Gura streams.

>>53363618
nigga what? this is pure delusion

>>53363636
>don't think number should be used as an indicator for the discussion in here
Thank you too, the door is right next to you, upper left corner.

>>53363597
this >most popular title seems very retarded

LMAO Jun CCV is reclined by 50% than last year

>>53363617
yeah and japanese people just dont subscribe
they even did a avarege viewer count, the first guy just hosts tournament so he shoudnt even count and only one above pekora is speed.

>>53363690
Marriage debuff. Don't look at our big mooners.

>>53363687
>based on peak viewers
well it is correct more of a clickbait

>>53363690
Marriage debuff but I'm surprised people left her because his marriage.
I don't think he has that much of female audience,

>>53363674
That's not my point at all. Numbers are a valuable comparative tool when used to compare exactly what they measure.
Subs, for instance, is a measure of how many people clicked in the subscribe button. CCV is a measure of the size of the live audience, VOD Views is a measure of how many people viewed a video and so on.

It is the "numbers are a proxy measurement for charisma" part that is a stretch too far for it to be worth my time. Thanks for yours so far anyway.

>>53363636
It took you this long to realize he's not arguing in good faith?

>>53363687
It isn’t actually, at least StreamsCharts admitted that popularity is indicated by more than one number and so they make multiple brackets for “Most Popular X”
This thread only look at a chuuba using the one metric she is the strongest at

>>53363759
The only time you consider someone "argue with good faith" is when they agree with your delusion.

https://youtu.be/Xed0moAoEr4
>Polka running in 20fps
Is this the power of the new studio?

>>53363690
His story literally ended at the biggest marriage in the streaming scene. Even this thread watched it and follow its numbers

Pekomiko when?

>>53363742
"He is just like me fr fr" buff ended. Why do you think most western streamers live in the basement despite being billionaires?

>>53363560
>1 stream this month
>only 15 minutes
Why does he hate Hirotomo?

>>53363237
After all this time I guess there's no denying that they did indeed sacrifice EN3 for HolostarsEN, meaning anti-idol homobeggars have legitimately won a stunning victory by preventing debuts in Hololive. Five girls lost their chance at stardom, and possibly an escape from poverty and depression, because of them.

>>53363812
He has a website to run, just like Gura.

>>53362857
They don't know what fair use is in Japan they have a right to strike anyone if they feel like it.

>>53363803
after en3 debuts

Here is an interesting disclosure, coming from a Mio stream of a month ago or so
>the girls can fill their meals together as business expenses to offset their taxes
People already new that but it is nice to have it come from a first party source

>Iroha collab with Marine
>7000 waiting
>Lamy collab with Noel and Aki
>2000 waiting
why is holoX so much more popular than gen 5? Iroha even outsells Lamy in merch every time we have numbers

>>53363237
>en
mate, you're gonna have to punch out some of JP upper management too and probs slap Yagoo and A-chan across the face. Do you really think something as important as this could've been done without their go-ahead?

>>53363838
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnTLHje0kJQ

>>53363843
Yeah those people are all there for Iroha. The fact it’s an offcollab with Marine as opposed to fucking Aki has nothing to do with it.

>>53363838
We already knew this. Mori took Kiara to a spa trip and deducted it from her taxes.

>>53363877
Iroha outsells Lamy in merch and in fact outsells all of gen 5 in merch despite being middle of the pack in holoX. Keep seething

>>53363838
holy shit so thats why micomet call it a business relationship? imagine all the tax discounts for all their dates, dinners and hotel nights together!!

>>53363902
>gay for tax write offs
that's a new one

>>53363877
I'm there for Iroha

>>53363902
Did you know it’s not uncommon for lawyers or businesses to have meetings in strip clubs. Lets you deduct it from taxes/ have corporate pay as a business expense and butter up clients with lap dances.

>>53363902
Also because the money is super good
Look at their merch sales, even if they want to end it, they wouldn't because of the sheer amount of money the ship bring

>Masked Fox mummy
Debut when?

There seems to be some drama on twitter with Bae's mama, any JOPs here know what's up?

There is something unseemly to see the King being ganked by Koyori playing Persona 5…

INDOCHADS

>>53364066
Missing pic

>>53364065
Just use google lens dude. People dug up old tweets where they said they pieated Adobe and they had to apologise

>>53364065
She apologized for pirating Adobe 10 years ago. Blamed her being overseas and "not knowing the gravity of her actions since it seemed to be the norm there". Lol.

>>53364065
Isn't this about the adobe shit? Or did something new pop up?

>>53364069
>INDIA A SUPERPOWER BY 2075!
They're still kicking that can down the road I see

>>53364095
Now Pekora getting 25k playing SF6 doesn't seem so bad anymore

>>53364065
she's being cancel culture, japan'ed for pirating Adobe software ten years ago.

>>53364065
Pretty much the equivalent of using WinRAR without paying for the license after 30 days.
Seems like it was
>pirated Adobe 10 years ago
>paid for it anyway
>felt guilty and confessed

>>53364069
>2075
China will be fucked by population crisis by then, India will get fucked by climate change, US will be fucked by retards in power.

>>53364064
maybe in yamato holoearth if we are lucky

>everyone doing summer activity streams and collabs
>doog wizardry

Aren't numbers for this MARINE OFF-COLLAB are a little bit too low?

>>53364069
>Vtubing still exist in 2075
Lol

>>53363854
Fagoo is a known homolover but he wouldn't okay it if the EN management was against he's not delusional enough to think he knows better what Western fans want. Perhaps the idea came from JP because they wanted successful male vtubers asap for the IPO but omegay just had no spine.

>>53364170
Numberrot chama, this already beats Marine-Kiara offcollab

>>53363838
I did this too.
There are multiple ways to reduce taxes, I used to donate for my family charity event.

Battle for pokobe

>>53364222
Chelsea!?!

>>53364181
omegay was a tranny who even wanted to debut himself as one, he was all for it

>>53364210
>Marine-Kiara offcollab
Is that supposed to be impressive?

>>53364069
The experts can't even project 4 years out, but sure let's go for 52 years.

>>53364181
Given they were told to pick 4 for Tempiss and picked 6, I'd say Omegay was the one who asked Yagoo to be able to get more slots for StarsEN

>>53364165
Seem normal to me. At some point her off-collab number must go down with how much she do it

>>53364295
Yea, those chinese predictions are...dubious as fuck, given what's currently happening in China. Hell, I'd wager that those fuckers didn't even factor in the demographics for China.

>>53364065
>>53364096
>>53364108
>>53364117
>>53364140
God I hate Japan so much

>>53363581
>discussing my oshi numbers bad because it might hurt my feefees
This thread is getting more hilarious with each passing month.

>3 person off-collab
>can't even get 10k
How do we save Lamy?