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>>53231177
Shutup fag

>>53231177
this would be hilarious if vesper got booted after getting a rework

>>53231177
They aren't a women to gossip about this shit like rushia op.

op is one of the guys in the podcast trying to get free views
kek

>>53231177
I don't believe a single fucking thing parasite dramafag youtubers say in regards to any kind of backdoor connections.

Nice try podcast fag.

>>53231621
>they aren't like women to gossip about shit like this
>even though at least one of them already shittalked Cover/management on a rm account before
lol ok nice cope
even Vesper on his own is menhera as fuck so it wouldn't even be out of character

>>53231177
>Evanit0 (former editor and best friend of Nux and general dramafag) discusses the Vesper and Magni suspension thing on this new obscure vtuber podcast with Underhill (former failed anituber and now self-proclaimed 'teatuber')
I can't believe someone type this in /vt/

>>53231177
>T E M P U S IS B R O K E
vesper couldn't pay the redesign. Magni offer his last paycheck.

Magni is (used to be?) friends with this Evanit0 guy. Maybe that’s why he is so confident, but I’m not sure if they are still in friendly terms to go and share something like that

>>53231732
>any kind of backdoor connections.
well... it's not Holo but the Underhill/Jojo guy is close friends with Fulgur Ovid of NijiEN; he even did voice acting on Fulgur's debut lore vid and is openly credited on it too. So that right there proves it's not unreasonable that they'd have connections with some of these corpo chuubas

>>53231621
>They aren't a women to
>Fag breaks down without his anxiety meds
lmfao

I would not be surprised if Mag and Vesper are friends with these guys and has been spilling shit to them.

>>53231177
What do former Cdawg editor knows about corpo life anyway?

are we trading homos for nina?

>>53232492
god, I wish

>>53231177
>I could probably find out what happened by the end of tonight
No you could faggot, fuck off Evanito or whatever you want to call yourself OP you stupid nigger

This dude is a massive grifter and a fraud. All the credit he gets from having connections does not matter when he keeps bullshiting harder than /vt/'s rratpedlers and doing the Twitch equivalent of vagueposting.

>>53231177
It's actually pretty plausible. The people involved don't really matter, most every vtuber who's been around long enough is connected to even 1 digit indies. You can trace most of NijiEn, and HoloCouncil to most every pre-2021 EN indie within two steps by collabs. Myth is an exception.

At that point it's really just a crapshoot who they happen to be connected to that can't be trusted to keep a secret. Magni is infamously intimate with a massive fuckton of drama heavy vtubers. If he told things to anyone, the truth has probably made its way to every dramatuber under the sun already. I have no clue about Vesper's connections, but given how he acts, odds are very likely that he's loose lipped as fuck.

I'm just sad for pako

>>53232903
genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he just retires from designing vtubers after this. Poor guy.

Evanit0 knows nothing about Hololive and is a Nijifag.

>>53232796
>odds are very likely that he's loose lipped as fuck
100% this
in my mind there's like zero percent chance Vesper hasn't spilled some shit to someone outside holo at some point given how erratic the guy is
this was only a matter of time really

>be pako
>big fan of Hololive
>get opportunity to design a member
>she quits after less than a year
>get another chance to redesign a Holostars member
>he streams with it once and gets terminated

>>53233037
no contradiction between him not being a holofag and being friends with tempus desu

>>53233092
Pako-papa...

>>53233128
Except when you look at his channel...

>>53233323
What a retarded channel

You should've bought an ad for it

>>53233323
I'm not even surprised he made a video about veibae saying retard lol

>>53231177
Juicy if true, but if the other anons are right then this guy could also just be lying out of his ass. We'll see I guess, definitely the most believable rrat running around right now though I'll give it that.

If thi is true this just confirms magni and vesper were exactly the sort of people a lot of us who immediately disliked tempus being a thing were concerned would infest holopro. Thankfully it seems like the cancer is going to be amputated rather than be allowed to spread and hopefully between this two shitters and sana and kronii they will be more careful on who they hire in the future.

>>53231177
Same guy was gossiping about vshojo not too long ago saying he has inside sources that told him things that I know for a fact are not true (based on my own connections) so I don't think he's a very reliable source.

>>53233539
why would they factor Kronii into being the kind of person not to hire in the future? She has caused literally no actual problems

>>53231177
A lot of people calling bullshit on the theory that that
>The retard who hangs out with and looks up to all the "twitch types" (Drama heavy, gossipy, cancely, two faced as fuck) to the point he complained about how "fake" some of his old friends were
and
>The retard who thinks so little about what he's saying he got suspended in near record time for being retarded and loud mouthed
wouldn't purposefully or even accidentally leak important info despite the fact this is probably the most plausible rrat to come out of /vt/ for a while.

>>53231410
We'd need to start a charity for Pako to send him a truckload of flowers or something. Although if his luck was that bad he'd probably be accidentally crushed under their weight or something answering the door.

>>53231177
I am usually annoyed by the first response to a thread being "buy an ad" but come the fuck on.

>>53233796
>I know for a fact are not true (based on my own connections)
oh yeah sure ok fag
proof?

>>53233798
Honestly it's assured that the truth will leak publicly. The only question is whether or not there'll be enough fake takes that make it hard to find.
Worst case scenario, Magni will just tell the entire world on another fucking account.

>>53233796
Share with the class then fag

wow another dramatranny trying to promote /their/ channel

>>53233798
I like how Vesper fails at every single one of those elements of professionalism kek

>>53233971
Deleted stream, he shared some retarded rrats, it's not that interesting. The point is the guy is full of shit and his connections are made up.

>>53232104
Also magni was/is an anituber himself, he actually had collabs with nux taku so he probably knows that Evenit0 guy too I'm not sure about Vesper past life but he seem interested in twitch shit now.

All you had to do was buying an Ad. Also:
>Niggers and dykes tongue my anus

>>53231177
>They go on to joke about being like Varys from GoT (having 'little birs' i.e. sources/connections)
this is the gayest thing I've read all night

>>53231177
So many people trying to disprove op but I believe you dude. Anyone calling this fake is a sister

If they go down i sure hope they do leak some juicy stuff .
Now i don't think Magni would be so stupid be Vesper , i'm counting on you ! the crassier the better !
(Axel fucking towa or Regis fucking laplace would be gold)

>>53233797
Drama she was involved with made a management account tweet something, that's enough to get her on the bad side of management

>>53231177
>I could probably find out what happened by the end of tonight
Some one who doesn't watch vtuber, and is just an anti

>>53231177
I know discord mods who pretend to be insiders too. This fag is basically saying
>i can know what happened TONIGHT but i wont because i dont feel like it

>>53234109
they're asking for proof of your 'connections' retard
how do you know he's full of shit?

>>53231238
why would you pay when you can make a thread? or multiple? it's literally free, and gets way more clicks.

>>53234732
>just dox yourself and your friend lol
No. You don't even need them to know he wad just regurgitating retarded shit he read here.

>>53231177
Tempus was an absolute mistake

>>53234622
>management sides with Kronii and defends her with a tweet
>this means that she is on management's bad side somehow
???????
does fucking Kronii know where managers families live and is holding them hostage or something? retard

>>53234793
So no proof no source, you're just making it up

>>53234842
It's the fact they had to say anything at all that is the problem

>>53233797
But there are for THEM. You know what problems exactly. You know which ones.

>>53234812
I won’t go that far yet, but they definitely dropped the ball on hiring Magni and Vesper.

>>53234872
It's a problem with the fanbase, not the talent.
Subhumans were flooding the feedback form to winge about males.

not watching that manlet nigger's podcast

>>53234844
If you would rather believe this retard's made up rumors, be my guest. Check out the other shit he said about hololive, it's hilarious and all 100% true xd

>>53234914
So true, we need to force all the idol fans out of hololive

>>53231621
a man without his meds is way more retarded than a schizo woman, trust me on this one anon

>>53231621
worse than women, they are fags

>>53233323
blerds were a mistake

>>53231177
>the black one is a koefficient orbiter
ok now it makes sense

>>53234963
No, just the "idol" fans who try to tell Cover what their buisness is.

>>53234914
>>53234963
This. Hololive should cast off their core idolfag audiences in favor of the unitychads. You either also watch the bois and nijisanji or get off from being a holofan.

>>53234901

>>53232967
the worst is that he often is in ina's chat, and you can clearly see he's nice and wanna be proud of a vtuber he himself designed

dude got the worst luck and that's not even his fault in the slightest

>>53232347
I bet they do and the list might be much longer but Mori probably leaked a ton of shit to TT and Ironmouse so perhaps it's a skill issue and homos leaked shit to people even worse than Conur not exactly hard to believe.

>>53235015
You know, when I was growing up the stereotype was that women were smarter than men. That's what I heard throughout all my school years, what I saw on TV, and it was the framing of so many anecdotes and jokes I grew up with.

I have no idea when the pendulum swung that so many people started considering women retarded. Though I do know that I blame feminism.

>>53231177
If they got audited by cover (lol, lmao) then there is a chance, but I won't arrive to conclusions yet, too little evidence of anything to throw accusations

>>53235116
Can you only percieve the world through strawmen?

>>53235116
>You either also watch the bois
bois aren't gonna be there for much longer kek
>nijisanji
in shambles and morale is at an all time low right now, branch is collapsing before our very eyes desu

>>53235213
What strawmen? HoloEN better off without their idolfags fanbase, that's the truth. Should go mainstream like NijiEN go all in with male-female interaction, and getting closer with the twitch crowds too. Bet that's what cover wanted too in the first place so I'm all in for it.

>>53235287
>ironic shitposting

>>53233075
The question is how Cover learned about it before us, did one of this dramafaggots asked them for comment or something?

>>53235324
>Shitposting
Not a shitpost when it's the reality desu. I'm not here to tell cover about how they should do their business, I'm here to be completely all in with whatever their ideas are.

>>53235394
Keep fighting your imaginary war.

>>53235436
It's not an imaginary war retard, considering tons of people apparently keep telling cover on how evil the bois are on their feedback form. I'm fighting against those antis who keep flooding cover with their ideas. who the fuck they think they are, just watch and enjoy the quality show brought to you by Cover.

>>53235338
I'm willing to bet after the Rushia fiasco they started keeping closer tabs on the things the talents did and said with their accounts. Probably marked Vesper down as notably risky after his first suspension, Magni was already in contact with them since he's the twitch orbiter retard and hooked Vesper up, which snagged them both.

>>53235163
Women get smarter with age.
But that also means young women are dumb as hell.

>>53235338
this might be some next level deranged rrat level shit but one of the only possible explanations I have at the moment as to how the fuck Cover could somehow find out about something like this before anyone else is an informant type of situation i.e. they have someone on the outside keeping watch of what their own members are saying outside of company time to associates (e.g. a friend of a holomem/someone posing as an outsider that would be inside random discord friendship groups outside holo to observe if shit like this was being discussed). Probably not totally realistic and would be some extra Machiavellian shit if true but it's some thing to consider.

Alternatively and more realistically, someone outside holo said something or spoke to a holomem/someone else about some shit they couldn't possibly know unless it had been leaked to them and this got back to Cover so they started an investigation.

>>53235587
Everyone gets smarter with age, that's how learning works anon.

>>53235495
shut up larper

>>53235338
Think about it like this, every time a situation happens, 100 rrats come out of 4chan. We write them all off because we can't know better, but usually one of them comes true and we only remember it in hindsight. Sometimes it sounds super fucking ridiculous before it comes true compraed to dozens of other more plausible explanations.

At Cover, they know the truth to start so it only really takes one person in the information network to fuck up and post here for (You)s or just to get something off their chest for them to want to investigate if some other talent or staff member happens to be browsing and sees a suspiciously accurate post.

I have zero connection or knowledge of this situation, but I know someone, who knows someone, who knows one specific big corporate vtuber and I've been fed news that was later confirmed by official announcements. I don't even know who the fuck the intermediary could possibly be but I know for a fact that my contact has real info. When it comes down to it, there're a lot of people that just don't know how to shut the fuck up and eventually someone plays telephone a bit too well.

>>53235495
Anon there downright retarded behaviour your boys are exhibiting are not helping in proving your point, in a company of 80% women the boys are the menhera one you can't make this shit up.

>>53233323
He's a generic reactor most of the time, did some to holosongs too here and there, whatever brings views.
Doesn't change the fact he might have connections just from hanging out with people who are actually popular.

>>53235616
Bullshit. I'm dumber now than I was a couple of years ago, explain that Mr. Science.

>>53235621
>Larper
Holy shit now this is a cope. Stop being a holofan if you don't want to support every cover decision, faggot.

>>53235677
nice meme, very funny, you're a Poe's Law GOD

>>53235623
It's possible, but in the past Cover has stated when they were investigating for potential break of contract.

>>53235787
Stop strawmanning retard, that doesn't even have anything to do with the fight against entitled idol fans.

>>53235794
Kinda hard to compare tho because that precedent is a wholly special case riddle with landmines. For all we know it's also possible that they're currently investigating them and only revealed about it in the case where Fagni and Vesper are indeed terminated

>>53235794
what if stating openly they're investigating a potential breach of contract somehow itself spoils something somehow? e.g. if they come out and openly state that they're doing this, it tips off someone that had info leaked to them that 'oh I guess the info was all true then'?

>>53231238
Not giving you money, Hiromoot

>>53235945
>>53235987
Obviously we can't really know, but they've been willing to be up front in the past and the language used in this notice is very soft.

>>53231621
/vt/ is proof that men can also be gossip girls.

>>53235794
>>53235945
This time is also special. There was a secret suspensions in the past, but only for an obvious, good reason. This time they didn't even mention suspension, they just kind of limply went
>Their activities will be stopped for a while
But analyzing that can lead to clues too. Usually if talents want time off they can just take it, they can tell everyone themselves. This time they didn't do that, instead management stepped in and said that
>their activities will be stopped
>for a while
Both of these bits give us incredibly important information.
>their activities will be stopped
>stopped
This means that someone else is stopping them, they're not doing it themselves because they'd just announce it on stream if they wanted a break. Not "they are stopping activities" or "they are going on break" but "they are BEING stopped". Management is making the decision.
>for a while
This either communicates indecision such as management babying them and not even wanting to suspend them, purposefully making things more light handed (Remember that EN never so much as retweeted or translated vespers suspension) or that management themselves don't know how long they may be stopped from streaming, or even if they'll ever come back.

>>53235287
>idolfags fanbase
They aren't idolfags, they only know the epic yagoo's dream meme and males on stream = bad.

>>53231177
>source: dude trust me bro
podcast brainrot is real

>>53236196
I dunno man based on what you said at least that means they actually watch streams.

>>53231177
These faggots are just saying this because there's a small percentage chance it will end up being a graduation and then they can take credit for having connections that they don't really have. If it ends up being wrong, they can just say that things changed and they ended up not graduating. They really can't lose, the only winning play here is to IGNORE ALL DRAMA NIGGERS. Also KYS OP.

>>53231177
kys dramanig

>>53236186
the only consistent explanation to me is that they are quietly suspending them with some punishment or investiagtion pending while not wanting to be open about it because they think doing so would piss off and rile up a lot of people. It could be that they think twitterfags and redditors are actually indicitive of their real consumer base and don't want to piss them off, ot could be that they think (maybe more accurately) that being open about this would cause the girls to get bombarded and harrassed, I'm not sure but whatever the case it seems most likely to me they're treating not tempus as special or with kid gloves but rather their fans.

>>53236186
I’m mostly hung up on it being two of them at once. Might have meaning, might not, but the fact it involves a repeated insubordinate and a slighter is certainly intriguing.

>>53231177
This is bullshit from nobodies.

>>53236462
I love how tempussisters have no actual arguments against this or anything, just denial and going 'shut up shut up shut up lol
the performative smug sense of superiority that the sisters parade around with is totally unearned and they know it. Your ebin boiz are in some deep shit and there's fuck all you can do about it but impotently meme and cry.

>>53236516
>Might have meaning, might not
I don't think there's ever been a double suspension in Covers history that didn't have significant meaning.

>>53236186
>There was a secret suspensions
please elaborate

>>53236696
If it was a double suspension I bet money on it being because of a con mishap

All I want to know is why do Americans have such an issue keeping shit to themselves? They air their dirty laundry to everyone and then complain about their 'toxic environment' that is never their fault full of people who just gossip and shit-talk each other.
For the record I'm an amerimutt and I just want to grill for god's sake but dramafags can't seem to help but 'vent' about their personal shit and alienate everyone around them and it seems to be like this no matter where I go. It's like I'm still in high school and as an old fart I'm sick of this shit

>>53235669
smoked too much weed and/or brain rotted with booze

>>53236900
>It's like I'm still in high school
welcome to the rest of your life, anon. No one ever really grows up, they just get better at hiding it sometimes. You should've figured this out by now.

>>53236839
The Oga NKO dice incident. Oga announced he'd be taking a "break" after it, iirc that break was later found to be "recommended" by management probably so that he'd catch less flak and make his life a bit easier, I doubt he had much choice in it if he'd refused though. It's probably one of the kinder suspensions to the point I'd hesitate to call it a suspension under most circumstances, but that's the closest Cover's ever come to a confirmed secret suspension.

I'll be honest with (You). If I was in tempus I'd probably get suspended too.
Like if you were around while omega was still doing his schtick, you probably would have signed up believing you were going to get the same treatment as hololive but in reality you get thrown a bone once in a blue moon while half the branch tries to pretend you don't exist because you're a direct threat to their income and numbers.
You rarely hear from management when it comes to games you wanna play, sponsorships are practically nonexistent, convention appearances are rare, you'll probably only get 3d after half of the people you joined to hang out with graduate, donations are pretty low and you only get 35% of them before tax.
So honestly, if he did get canned it's not like I could blame him.

>>53236900
Very few people grow past high school anon, especially if you work in a corpo everyone is like that

>>53236900
A lot of Americans have never worked under strict NDA and believe that it's fine to violate so long as they're careful about it.
Japan on the other hand has some incredibly brutal working conditions and being under strict NDA is the least of the issues most of the time

>>53231177
>unheardof nobody says the sky is falling!
Meds, fag.

>>53236900
>Only Americans gossip
Nips are not above that shit.

>>53236978
>you probably would have signed up believing you were going to get the same treatment as hololive
only if you are a retard
Everything you listed about the way Stars get treated is good btw; Hololive is one of the few companies possibly on earth that is actively misandrist and discriminatory in favor of women - and this is a good thing. Vtubing has, and always will be, primarily for women to larp as anime girls. The foundation of vtubing originally was literally just 'moe girls but they are moving around and real.'
Men are, and should be, an afterthought. It's only reasonable thse males should be treated like shit for thinking they can just waltz in and expect to be given success on a silver platter and treated the same as the girls when literally no one in the audience is there to see Y-chromosome-havers. Literally the only reason Myth/EN exists and was successful is because they are female, period. To deny this is insanity; if EN vtubers had been male from the get-go they'd have immediately faded out int oobscurity in an instant.

The truth is, and always will be, that in vtubing, for maybe the first time in employment, females > males

>>53236900
because main character syndrome

>>53231177
>It's gonna be a termination
I wish, but I doubt

>>53235794
Rushia's case was very public from the start including the leak part so it made sense to address it.

>>53231177
I rly doubt termination desu, I hope for it but I doubt it

>>53236894
Contract violation during a con makes perfect sense it's where people talk too much.

>>53234914
>>53235093
So true, sister! We need to own the unichuds to be alone with our cute boys who can get each of us preggers :3

>>53235287
>>53235844
>>53236196
Yes sister, own the idol chuds! We need more groomers who can rape us with their tentacles!

>>53236978
>But in reality you get thrown a bone once in a blue moon
Only tempusisters or outsider pretending to be them legitimately think like this. Tempus being called the most coddled gen is not something that conjured outta nowhere. You can use it for the StarsJP, but Tempus? Keked.

>>53231177
I can believe it. This kind of situation hasn't happened since Rushia. And Magni RM is friends with him.

>>53235143
Nah, I learned EN first. And you on the other hand...

>>53238697
>>53238750

Fuck you, yall bland mfs.

Tangina nyo baduy nyo kingina.

>>53239013
I don’t speak SEA[redacted], sister.

>>53233797
Have you completely memoryholed the 'idol culture is a thing' menhera rant kronii did on a clippers channel anon? So much unnecessary drama was caused by that and her subsequent menhera breakdown.

>>53231177
It'd be unfortunate but deserved if true. I don't necessarily believe this to be the case however.

>>53236584
I love how dramatrannies have no actual arguments against this or anything, just rrats and going 'homo homo homo lol
the performative smug sense of superiority that the trannies parade around with is totally unearned and they know it. Your ebin rrats are in some deep schizo shit and there's fuck all you can do about it but impotently meme and cry.

>>53231177
No.

>>53239063
Are you sure you want to be transphobic, sister? That goes against The Cause.
https://www.youtube.com/live/nlBv4Q5yfjA?feature=share&t=7755
7755

>>53239222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIu9IyuZRI&t=4875s

>>53231621
this so much this
>>53235022
gamma male faggots, which self respecting man uses a vtuber to fag himself

>>53236145
This

This rrat would be believable if it were only one of them. I doubt both of them were sitting in a three way text chat on their work accounts talking about gura's pregnancy, and all of this just happened to come to light at the same time contracts were up.

My rat is that since both are old and american they are holding out for healthcare

>>53231621
>He thinks men don't gossip as he spends his days on a literal anime girl gossip thread dominated by men

>>53232104
Shut the fuck up OP.
>>53234230
And stop replying to yourself samefag

>>53239222
>You are transphobic
And we now know you're just a fucking dramafag tourist.
Shut the fuck up and go back to re ddit and/or Twitter and suck each other dick there. We're not your personal army (and buy a fucking ad you cheapfuck)

They did a Rushia tier yab but since Omegatroon and Fagoo are such relentless Tempiss dicksuckers, instead of firing them on the spot they are currently looking into ways to spare them termination

>>53240569
The troon was fired and the only protection they have is Yagoo, but now Yagoo is beholden to shareholders. The protection and good grace Yagoo afforded the Stars in the past may not be enough. Not when the company has to officially state they're on leave.

>>53231621
>They aren't a women to gossip about this shit like rushia op.
>On the man gossip board
lol

>>53240329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIu9IyuZRI&t=4875s

What happened to supporting the cause, sister?

>>53231290
Phasecuck deflection post.

>>53235623
"my contact" lmao ok james bond, or do you prefer 007?

>>53241012
Qrd.?

>>53235116
>still doesn't understand the idol stik

>>53231177
Fingers crossed! and no I will not listen to your podcast

>>53231177
OP, no matter how hard you try you will never be as iconic as Mr Metokur.

>>53231177
>best friend of Nux
point invalidated

>>53235338
Altaire is the snitch

>>53242662
Based transformer.

>Evanit0
lol kys

>>53239222
You're a thin skinned weakling.

>>53239222
>wonder what the fuck "aroace" is
>google meaning
>being asexual means I experience little to no sexual attraction and being aromantic means I experience little to no romantic attraction
So... just asexual

>>53243011
The mentally ill Faggots, dykes and troons need to reinvent everything for their affirmation demands

>>53239533
Most of the people on vt are troons or psychotic fujos. There's only like 20 percent real straight men on here and most of them are pedos.

>>53231177
It does make sense to me that they'd freeze them out of their accounts (yet not announce it as a suspension) to probably pore over records/contacts etc to see who they were talking to.

You'd think they would just use alts for communication however so I wouldn't expect they'd find much about them leaking directly on their Holo accounts - so then what does Cover think it'll find? If it's not outside communication then it's inside - like talking to management trying to get around stuff, or maybe talking to Holo girls in ways that rubbed someone the wrong way and got them reported.

It seems quite possible at least one new EN girl has been brought in lately, maybe even more than one, and vesper/magni either went too far as sexpests or she pissed them off saying she wouldn't collab with them or something.

>>53243011
Remember the generation that were told "Everyone's a winner!" or "You're a special princess" yeah, they grew up into this.
They finally grew up, slammed straight to reality and trying to deny it by inventing new made up words to make themselves feel special.

>>53243011
>romantic and sexual attraction are the same thing
I'm glad we have an expert in the thread to educate us.

>>53243330
OP, stop replying to yourself and then act like those "Hurr durr homostar bad" people.
We keep bumping this thread to throw rotten tomatoes at you because you're such a piece of shit.

>>53236462
Graduating?
They're getting fired.

>>53243330
Judging by the multi thread damage control the MANS drone sisters are running on the board you know this is something big. Gonna be great grudgeposting them when the news gets announced, the cute little backtracking they'll do is already making me giddy

>>53231177
who?????
also
>>>
Yes nijisister, nowa leaked your AI flops and the 2%

>>53244462
LOL MANS also don't know what happened. Their damage control is because everyone (including you) blew it out of proportion.

>>53237338
I don't necessarily disagree with you I'm just saying that in general I don't think it'd be fun to be a Stars member. I think if you were suckered in by the idea of the two being the same though that it'd be easy to get disillusioned and burned out

>>53231177
Not gonna give your shit channel clicks faggot.
BUY AN AD

>>53247430
That I realized. Once you get your existence, about 20 heat-seeking missiles will be aimed at (You) and that's being generous.

>>53231177
>This to me implies that Vesper and Magni could very well be complaining/gossiping to random associates/friends about the internal goings on of Cover or venting about management and that this is a normal occurrence.
if you're going to be a dramamfag at least know about the people you're trying to shitpost about.
they would literally never do this.

>>53244462
MANS largely hates Vesper, so they'll be celebrating he gets graduated, even if it costs them Magni. Most of Magnation have already moved over to Bettel anyways.

>>53248338
>MANS largely hates Vesper
I don't believe you, they regarded him as the biggest ultimate brotuber ever. And not the mention he was their catalyst for attacking Hololive fans with cuckposting

>>53231177
Is this a vtuber board or TMZ?
None of you niggers are over the age of 18 acting like this, 3/4s of this thread should be perma'd

Ya’ll are missing the obvious.

Magni got suspended for uploading a video of himself getting doused in Grimace jizz and putting Cover’s upcoming McDonalds sponsorship at risk.

Vesper got suspended for going on an insane hipster rant against management when he found out the sponsorship was for McDonalds and not Carl’s Jr.

>>53231177
Buy a fucking ad.

>>53239013
SEA homosexual chimpout

>>53238808
I don't really watch tempus but I mean I see the occasional clip where they talk about how management doesn't talk to them for months at a time. I don't see anyone in a rush to get them 3d. They really don't get shit aside from letters saying "don't harass people for collabing"
In what way do they get coddled? They get acknowledged slightly more than stars JP but really that's about it

This thread reeks of 0view tweeters.

>>53233798
Where gif

>>53249162
Sharing a twitter account with myth and council means they are somehow the most babyd gen to ever live.
Meanwhile they havent gotten 1% of shit HoloX got in 6 months if you wanna talk about pushing and babying

>>53248338
idk man I just read MANS for research and they talked about which dudes asshole would taste the best and didnt have any negative opinions on vesper

>>53231621
Anon did you forget this is Vesper we’re talking about here? The guy is leagues more menhera than Rushia and he’s probably older than her. He already got in trouble for having screaming matches with management, he already had a schizo breakdown arc in Japan, he snaps at any comment against him even if there’s a sea of people supporting him, he’d totally do this shit. Hell did you forget about how much drama there is on YouTube to begin with, most of which involves dudes?

>>53236488
Surely they would have done some Invesitagation into the platforms and realized there's a forced positivity culture, and thus not useful for actual criticism, although that could be the exact reason they are using those platforms, precisely because they can sic the rabid positivity police on any dissenters

>>53249092
Wash your ass. I know for a fact yall just suffice with tissues. Yuck. Kadiri.

>>53249465
Any smidge of good treatment on the males is coddling, pls undastand

>>53249465
I honestly forgot about that because I don't use Twitter.
I don't necessarily think that tempus should have ever been a thing but I'll be honest, I don't necessarily think that it seems like they're coddled by any means. In fact I'd say that they're probably more frequently targeted for existing cuz like >>53247957 said, being male vtubers in a company like hololive is just seemingly asking to get shat on.
I dunno I sympathize a bit with them because I could totally see myself being interested in applying to work with my oshi but holy fuck has tempus shown me what a disaster it'd be. I think I'd go menhera

>>53250597
>I could totally see myself being interested in applying to work with my oshi
this is quite literally the opposite of a good reason to join.
>yeah, if I joined Holostars it'd be to try to get close to a girl I like!
thank fuck you never will join then. Men who are actual fans of the girls joining just to try to worm theit way close to their oshi is like the worst case scenario.

>>53239013
>>53250280
And a ching chong nip nong to you too, zhang.

>>53249592
>The guy is leagues more menhera than Rushia
LOL, no, I don’t think anyone can out menhera her. I think people are forgetting just how bad she (still) is.

>>53244462
> the cute little backtracking they'll do is already making me giddy
You fucking drama hungry doxxsite sisters need to stop being so obvious

>>53249008
>Ya’ll
nijisisters have their fingerprints all over the catalog

>>53251379
rent free

>>53239013
>>53250280
you have to be 18 or older to post on this site

>>53241012
The guinea pig eater is a phase anti.

>>53241603
Nta. The tripfag likes to go around falseflagging and stirring drama. He is a phaseconnect anti.

>>53251101
Not them, fuck them for crowding our northern waters

>>53251795
Weak retort lol

>>53231621
I doubt that Magni or Vesper would do anything that breaks NDA since they know what management did to Rushia. Still funny to hear that men don't gossip after the NijiEN model leak that had shills running damage control for weeks.

can we start banning anyone who makes threads about dramafags? this shit is a poison on this board and it's obvious OP is a faggot tourist.

>>53232492
Why does it have to be a trade? I think Tempshit should be charitable and just give themselves away.

>>53232903
Tbf Pako should stop being such a faggot and give up on male vtubers.

>>53248612
I don't think MANS hates Vesper, but when Vesper got suspended the first time all his fans made the choice to make their own super special vesper general apart from MANS.

>>53253216
Unfortunately, these people have people on the inside.

>>53243557
ok boomer

Here’s my rrat after a day of thinking on it:

There’s actually some kind of conflict between Magni and Vesper that’s resulting in Cover having to do internal investigation. Cover can’t say shit because they don’t want to misrepresent the situation and get sued by the legitimately aggrieved party. Cover can’t suspend or terminate them either, same reason. If it’s a legitimate accusation, the accuser getting punished in any way is grounds for a lawsuit. If it’s a false accusation, the falsely accused getting punished in any way is also grounds for a lawsuit.

Everybody else (Altare, etc.) is avoiding saying shit because they don’t want to take sides. There’s nothing to gain by taking the side of the guy who gets terminated, and then being stuck working with the guy you didn’t support. The statement Altare made that they know OF the situation but they don’t know all the details is code for, “We know what’s been accused but we don’t know who’s in the right.”

Neither Magni nor Vesper are going to leak anything about the situation because whoever leaks FIRST, the other one will know, and it could create worse legal problems for the leaker.

Long story short: Magni versus Vesper was the true rrat all along, Altare versus Vesper was fake.

>>53231621
Vesper has one of the biggest manginas in the history of vtubing

>>53235623

>>53231177
All i know is that this popped up on my youtube homepage just before opening this thread so they are not in jail or fighting for the life in an hospital bed, meaning they are absoutely suspended
I hope Cover makes that nigger of Vesper pay back every single cent they spent for his Pako redesign, what a massive fucking nigger of a person

>>53257621
You know it's another guy handle the youtube side right?

>>53258060
He also liked an art piece a friend put out on his personal account.

>>53258060
cope already tempshart

>Evanit0
Since I'm aware Holofags probably don't know anything about him: This guy makes shit up all the time.

>>53231177

>>53257621
who the fuck thought they were both dying at the same time? it's obviously a suspension.

Hopefully Cover investors will demand a full stop on the HolostarsEN activities

>>53231177
>Evanit0

>>53254729
10/10 rrat, splendid this rrat hole may have a future after all.
But it's still possible that vesper vs altare an magni vs vesper existed both. Probably magni vs vesper was first, then altare joined on magni side and did what every retarded zoomer do, go way to far, making the initial conflict who maybe only ranged from mudane to mid into something even magni didn't want to go, and then after a while despide vesper and magni making up for some time vesper resented more altare who did go way to far, and magni also called altare something among the line of a retarded zoomer at some point, because he made the conflic into something even him didn't expect.
But also by doing that the resolution of the conflict didn't go until the root of it and it ended up happening again, but once again because altare during the first occurence put oil on the fire the second happening is far more bloody than the first one.
Explain why altare doesn't want to join this time publicly because he realised that while he isn't the cause of the conflict he is the cause of the escalation of it and/or because magni asked him to not put himself between them.

>>53250597
Management is paying for their ads, giving sponsors and shit sometimes it feels like they have more support than the girls especially when you look at official twitter.

>>53257621
>they are not in jail
you can get arrested and out on bail in less than 24 hours

So is Kronii going to elope with her beloved vesper. Her rm just started shilling herself

>vesper is literally rushia

>>53231621
"Men don't gossip about people, only silly broads gossip about people!" says man gossiping about men with other men.

>>53260279
What does "rm" mean?

>>53261033
lurk for 100 years or just go back

>>53259517
EN management is obviously trying to protect the homos seeing how JP twitter has been silent about the matter. The last time something happened (Vesper’s suspension) the EN twitter completely ignored it. They’re probably still in talks with upper management on what’s gonna happen to these two for whatever they did.

>>53260279
Good graduation is good for that hoe.

>>53254729
associating with faggots always ends badly
it's like this is so obvious everyone should know
LMFAO

>>53249162
>Management ignored them
Fucking bullshit. Show us clips

>>53231177
nigga they bought got exposed to covid but cover cant outright say so because they already posted about it on their flesh accounts its not even that hard to find

>>53261033
Roommate. Their other internet appearances. Which for the purpose of this board are different people altogether. Talking about them violates >>1 so don't.

>>53254613
You're not special.

>>53257621
This can be timed upload anon.
Youtube has this feature where you can upload video early and set to release it to public at certain time.
This is also what happened to a youtuber who died due to illness and a new video suddenly appeared several months later.

>>53245866
>mysterious complete freeze in two accounts at once with no clarification or warning
>one of them already had been publicly suspended before
>no return date announcement

This shit is what rrat's nests are made out of, how can you NOT wonder about what the fuck happened? Going "how dare you ask questions" is attempting to push fucking Chinese CCP level censorship onto a worldwide audience for the sake of trying to cover the asses of Cover totally pro-bono. Everyone who does this, is a fucking tool, a stooge, a subhuman. Even if they're both back tomorrow, it'd still be a really weird happening especially given they probably wouldn't even be able to explain what the fuck happened.

>>53231177
The only reason I don't wish for Vesper to graduate is that Pako would probably an hero and he doesn't deserve it.

>>53265934
He liked some tweets on rm.
He's definitely alive

>>53254404
>>53259029
lol yeah that fiucking nerd. Probably hornyboy too since he loves collabing with Fefe

>>53254729
Magni probably saw Vesper 2.0, scream "NO FAIR" and start throwing tantrum and start a fight with Nowa

>>53266546
He can do that while lying on a bed in a hospital anon. Bored out of his mind.

>>53266385
MANS are not trying to censor everything. They just people calm the fuck down and not shitting the catalogue. Made one or two threads and converge in it rather than making a new thread every hour.

>>53231177
They'll be gone any day now, sisters!

>>53265934
>Youtube has this feature where you can upload video early and set to release it to public at certain time.
That is a lot of coincidences when Magni and Vesper getting suspended would be the more obvious explanation. Cover has suspended talents for silly reasons in the past and wouldn't be that much of a shock.

>>53231177
Why?

Why haven't there been any funny rats this time around? I feel like Vesper's suspension arc was some of the best content this site has produced.

We're not even getting repeats of the ass baby AI audio.

>>53266918
He typed responses though to other people's tweets. So he's just doing twitter like normal. Why wouldn't he be able to do that from his corpo account unless he was suspended from doing so?

>>53231177
Two nobodies said they can “totally find out what’s going on if they want to” in an attempt to use vtuber drama to draw attention to their shitty podcast? Wow, what a credible source.

>>53270453
>some of the best
>this site
Do you mean for vtubing specifically? Because /vt/ is very low tier as far as boards go, ranking only above cancerous boards like /lgbt/ and /r9k/ and /soc/.

>>53260279
lolno she's streaming right now, has a weekly schedule and is involved in Council's 2 year anniversary relay coming up. Kronii isn't going anywhere and clearly doesn't actually give a fuck about Vesper.
Only newfags and tourists think Vesperonii is more than just a crackship; if you really did your reps you'd know she is one of the few holos who is legitimately a massive flaming dyke and probably even hates men.

>>53266481
Nah, even in spite of all this shit, that guy is still set for life rolling in Type-Moon bux. If Vesper gets canned then Pako probably just goes back to drawing husbandos for Nasu and becomes a full-time Tako.

>>53267026
So y’all are literally nijisisters running damage control XAXAXAXAX

>>53231177
>teatuber
>dramatuber
>drama vtuber podcast
holy shit actually kys

>>53272079
>y'all
go back kid

>>53272081
normally I would agree except this time the 'teatuber' and dramatuber in question are actually close friends with many vtubers both corpo and indie - including Magni himself - so it's not like they're complete outsiders.

>>53271838
kronii's just in it to milk her horny male viewers of their money, but vesper is likely going to go out in a blaze of glory after getting his hands on her. we about to see international news bois.

>>53266481
Eh, I feel like Pako would be way more invested if he got someone like Hakka or Axel as his son instead of Vesper, honestly. While I'm sure he was happy to be asked to design a model again, I don't get the impression that he watches much of Vesper's content compared to some of the others.

>>53268161
That's not always a coincidence. Just because the video was launched yesterday it's related to his sudden hiatus. It can be unfortunate timing that's all.

>>53270628
That's Evanit0 for ya. He also loves collabing with Fefe to lure in horndogs.

>>53272079
Why a nijisister want to damage control something from holo?
You're either dumb or just pants in the head retarded threadreader dramafag

>>53254729
I bet it was Vespers fault

>>53272303
Just because he's sucking Fefe's tits doesn't mean he's like DoomCock and his Disney insiders.

>>53250791
This anon wouldn't be interested in being friends with his oshi, sad

>>53273635
it's holofags' newest cope despite the evidence

>>53273421
>I don't get the impression that he watches much of Vesper's content compared to some of the others.
He usually can't due to time zones (Vesper streams at 2am JST) but he made adjustments just so he could watch his "son". If Vesper gets himself terminated I'll never forgive him for what it'll do to Pako.

>>53273861
What the fuck that chart even mean you schizo

>>53274143
>never used vrabi
it's how you see chat overlap newfag

>>53273816
the whole point of an oshi is that you idolize them and cheer them on from a distance, newfag

>>53274548
>Numberfagging this bad
I hate it when #fags are breaking their containment general.

>>53271838
Vesper gonna stab kronii
one can dream of this reality.
do it for the vespernoiis fans

Vesper is getting two weeks off, Magni one.

>>53271838
>2 year anniversary relay
are you retarded?

>>53275353
that fag would have a panic attack and need to chug his meds if he even so much as stepped one foot outside his house, he isn't stabbing shit

>>53276046
no? Are you?
Council are having a karaoke relay in a couple of days with their beegsmol models because it's close to their 2 year anniversary you dumbfuck

>>53276149
councils anniversary is a fucking month and a half away, and the relay is councilRyS. it has literally nothing to do with councils anniversary, IRyS wouldn't be involved if it was

>>53231177
Hopefully Altare and Axel are next

>>53231177
it’s not secret that Japanese corporations are pretty incompetent but why apply to one and then complain that it is

>>53260279
I hope so. Fingers crossed

>>53260279
Can you all finally collectively do something and spam her chat asking where’s vesper? Maybe then she’ll finally hop off his dick

>>53281250
not your army, newfag
go back

>>53233966
>Magni will just tell the entire world on another fucking account.
the fact people still don't know who magni is amazes me

>>53233798
>Vesper/Magni leak details after leaving
>Holos learn to never trust the homos
sounds like a win to me

>>53273861
Because nijisisters and tempisstroons are one and the same.

>>53283081
Jesus Christ

>>53283081
>63% vs 2 people on twitter
Hey itroon anon, good to see you again. Is there a particular reason you didn't use your own vrabi screenshot you typically use?

>>53283495
Gotta support the cause, sis!

>>53283660
>63% Hololive vs 56% Niji
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE THE RRATS ARE CRUMBLING HOW COULD WE HAVE A HIGHER OVERLAP WITH THE HOMOS

>>53242756
How did frog girl survive falsely accusing artists of tracing and running a scam art contest??

>>53283818
She's a woman

>>53235616
Male idiocy is more noticeable than woman idiocy imo, thats what give the impression

>>53283818
vagina + simps

>>53283776
Sister, I know you’re upset over Milord approaching 3 view status but there’s no need to get that upset.

>>53254062
it's literally his first time designing for a male chuuba no?

>>53284319
>!!ALERT: BTFO DETECTED!!
>Initiating: Nijisanji Deflection Sequence

>>53284556
Sis, I-

educate yourself sweaty sksksk

>>53266918
but his injury only stops him from use his corpo account right?

>>53284762
What's the matter, anon? Can't find anything higher than 63%? Gonna 41% over this?

>>53233796
So when are you gonna do something about Froot?

>>53285067
You sure you want to be talking about tranny suicides with this clip going around?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIu9IyuZRI&t=4875s

>>53287169
>still can't find anything
Yeah itroon didn't do as well as he expected

I can't wait when graduation happens. I'll spend a week shitposting. I'll pay bots to shitpost all the time, I'll hire chinese children only to shitpost. I'll become the aspect of shitposting.

>>53287169
I like how Catalog schizos keep trying to make this into some sort of yab when literally no one cares about this moment but them.

Why do people celebrate graduations when it's almost always beneficial to the chuuba in cases like this? You should want them to stay there, trapped in a company that's not paying them as much as they'd make as a solo act after absorbing a year's worth of popularity and clout from it.

Now when they go solo they'll both have larger audiences except without the expectations of doing shitty original songs or waiting for game perms and they'll reap 100% of the financial benefits. In most cases the EN talents are far better off leaving after a year or two of working with Hololive unless they're maybe Mori or Gura. They'll still be able to collab with the people you don't want them to collab with, nothing would change.

>>53289112
So true, sister! I’m glad Milord Regis endorsed us harassing people over playing that chud game!!!

>>53289152
I don't fucking care about what homos will do after they leave, they just need to fuck off of Hololive. They can become a pewdiepie-tier for all I care, just get the fuck out. If you don't understand this you are simply a retard.

>>53289548
There'll be more. And more. And more. And there's nothing you can do about it

>>53289295
That's a stretch when in said clip he mentions not playing the game because he doesn't want to get harassed.

this faggots could either be under the sun in hawaii or 6 feet under the desert in nevada, idc.
What is this a deflection from?

>>53236696
>>53236894
>Double SECRET Suspension
YAGOO is going full Dean Wormer. Animal HoloHouse when?

>>53289152
it's not about wanting them to suffer or not be successful you retard, it's just about them not being in Hololive and ruining it.
>>53289548
based

>>53284488
NTA but i think is more about stoping watching male vtubers casue thats gei

>>53289548
>>53293721
Sorry but I honestly don't understand caring that much about "Hololive" as a monolith. I like the individual girls I watch and some dudes being in the same company as them doesn't somehow magically ruin my perception or enjoyment of the girls that I watch. Marine is Marine regardless of Homobeggars, Ame is Ame regardless of Tempusfags

>>53296060
>retard doesn't understand how the culture/atmosphere of a workplace can be changed by the people in it, or how content/audience can be changed by the people involved in making it or how people's behavior/personalities can be changed by who their co-workers are
Hololive is a monolith whether you like it or not. No man is an island, as the saying goes

>>53289548
They'll still stay and you can't do anything about it, faggot.