/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This thread will be better

Everything is ambigous.

Why couldn't they just say EN3 soon or homos breaking NDA?

>>53230933
Doesnt matter since Koshien will give the company a lot of money which is a win for them since it will mean more investors and more money in the future.
Meanwhile shit like Blue Journey or Holo Summer are just money drains which is bad for the company.

>>53230948
What happened? Did someone maliciously strike her ASMR?

En3? En3? En3?

>>53231112
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>53230449
>virtual san wa miteru bombs
>Raito scandal
>gamebu abuse scandal
>gamebu replacement scandal
>Kizuna Ai clone scandal
>Idolbu/Tama scandal
>Entum closes down
>subscriber numbers stagnate
I’m sure I’m missing something.

>>53231182
Clean out the trash b4 EN3?
I like this idea

….I thought KPF were unity? Why didn’t he order some of the bois merch too…….

>>53231193
gamebu stuff was an inside job by Kaguya Luna

>we love investors now

>>53231257
Because Holofags are tribalist even in their own company and hate helping other talents/livers.
You wont see that shit in Nijisanji.

>>53231247
I fully believe this all happened because of the homosisters sperging out against Watamate prime on the sub

>>53231257
Imagine if they just done all girls instead of homos

>>53231301
Only in JP. EN is toxic but you can blame the doxxfags for that.

>>53230925
English chat % you stupid fuck.
>>53230933
No. You can see Koshien last year. It was a small blip and then they went under previous numbers.

>>53231257
Based ojisan

>>53231288
More investors means more money which means a bigger chance for the company to survive.
If a liver graduates you lose on person if a company dissolves you lose all the livers.
Only Holofags are retarded not to realize this.

>>53225156
Would it be possible for them to do an English lyric cover of these JP songs? I think it could work out really well as long as you had a proper lyricist. For example, you could do something like this with the song IRyS just released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvlDbWxtIxE

>>53231169
No, she was just doing some spicy ear licking shit and then the parent company said "uh uh, you ain't doing that anymore". She was fucking devastated
https://youtu.be/1tlzruEkE_w
unironically got depressed because of it because she really liked doing that stuff. You'll never guess who the parent company of Aogiri is kek. Hint: they've got quite the reputation

>>53230768
Which one gave birth to the cutest vtuber in the world?

Chu~

>>53231301
>>53231355
You already shat up last thread to nobody giving a shit. Neck yourself.

>>53231355
>EN is toxic but you can blame the doxxfags for that.
EN is toxic due to Hololives influence, Hell even the most toxic practices in JP like stalking or harassing fans or other vtubers originated from JP Holofans as well.

>>53231301
>Muh patented accent
>muh exclusive theme song
>muh gundou

>>53231368
Not true. Plenty of smaller corpos like Brave have done well whilst not public. I'd say 774 too but they're on the down for the time being moralewise.

>>53231301
>>53231439
>>53231355
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>53231377
Let me guess: Brave Group? I am guessing without searching first.

>>53231344
>homo merch doesn’t even look like it’s been touched
Grim

>>53231112
>>53231192
Kill a kill did not miss

>>53231377
Brave Group really is a disaster.

>>53231301
>helping
What does that even mean?

>>53231439
I'm talking about Nijisanji though. JP's community is chill, EN's is not. You knew that though.

>>53231470
Brave and 774 are garbage compared to Anycolor anon which is why they are below Anycolor. They are way past their prime and relevance

>>53231480
Ding ding ding we've got a winner
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Picked up a few items from the shop. Didn't get everything but shipping is a bit high.

>>53231476
I'll talk to them. Since I'm a Nijifag myself I just want to see how many of them are real and not falseflags. Believe me we don't like tribalists either.

>>53231480
Brave Group = Unlimited for those who aren’t aware. The company responsible for abusing Gamebu and then replacing their voice actors once they revealed it.

>>53231535
Kek the blackest company in the entire vtubing sphere, again.

What do you call a group of nijiniggers?
A palace of lies

>>53231374
Yes they need extra permission but yes it’s possible.

>>53231529
I'd say Brave is on the rise but you may have a point in which they've peaked. 774, yes. That ship has long sailed. I may say JP indies have been doing better than the smaller corps there actually now that I think about it.

>>53231489
The real grim part is going to be the stock numbers. Not going to be the first time the girls got restocked.

>>53231575
Cocoa (二代目) and others seems to be pretty satisfied with their current position.

Typical Nijisanji content

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1678594809542635520?s=20

>>53231638
Sounds like a success for the homos. Yagoo will definitely include them in more events

>>53231439
EN was mostly fine before Luxium and their army of homos and fujos appeared.

>>53231519
No JP community is infested with Holofags as well. Like how they blamed they blamed Tomoe fans for harassing that other vtuber a month ago even though it was mostly Holo tourist that did that or they harassed Gwelu when he sang an innocent joke song about Pekora which led to him getting suspended and losing a sponsorship stream.
Theyve been doing that stuff for years like how they harassed Aloe and then blammed it on nijisanji

>>53231558
Hololive is used to it at this point.

>>53231669
She said she knew how to speak Cantonese because her parents speak the language but English is still her first language.

>>53231624
Nah brave is on a dead cat bounce thats a result of their recent acquisitions. They are way below Nijisanji because of their retarded decisions

>>53231714
>>53231726

>>53231714
You said it yourself that those were Hololive fans taking part in all of those forms of harassment. I don't know what your point is.

>>53231624
I would say the corpos that focus on vsinger stuff are doing pretty well, as in they rack in money even though they usually have abysmal ccv.

>>53231669
You guys literally have Bae lmao

>>53231669
Getting desperate that Enna took them all.

https://twitter.com/TitterDaily/status/1678639929763545089
would this kill niji's Twitter number?

>>53231726
>>53231776
Im a nijifag and I can tell you that all of those are Holo falseflaggers since no real Nijisanji fan will harass other vtubers.

>>53231714
Not sure about Gwelu but I am pretty sure some of them did harass Aloe because they thought she does not fit in hololive due to her past activities, which to be honest, they are correct.

>>53231869
We get it dude.

>>53229637
>In Nijisanji personality trumps design, always
You mean baseball and normies events. Otherwise explain Gwelu, Dora, and some random shitters I forgot names but are actually kinda funny
>It's OK when JPs talk to males
No, not really. Towa, Laplus, Matsuri and others never, ever has good ccvs when collab with male Vtubers. You can't have it both way aka "I want to interact with males but at the same time I want the Otaku audience, and 20k ccvs, and no backlash".
>But but but whatabout hypno Ojisan, Jpop males, comedian duo, Hikakin...
Those are the ones that actually rule the Japan multimedia ecosystem. Hololive benefits more when collab with them.
>But but but tournament
Same thing. Those ccvs comes from bored tourist that want to see something new for a change. They don't stick around

>>53231714
>They harassed Gwelu
Never happened. In just a few hours after he dropped it he take it down himself and Nijisanji throw him into the jail. Ain't no time for any harassment here

>>53230953
In some ways I'd argue that Riku is the better businessman, being as greedy and ruthless as he is. The whole ACCELERATE strategy while shedding off deadweight is shitty for the organs but it's working so far, since revenues keep increasing.
Meanwhile, Yagoo has a good long-term strategy (supporting talents as much as possible, branching out into projects like HoloEarth) but it remains to be seen whether he can adequately execute at Cover's scale, with some pretty noticeable missteps, including recently, with the understaffed megastudio.

>>53231714
>they harassed Gwelu when he sang an innocent joke song about Pekora
Honestly this was so dumb, I feel like it was mostly nousagi falseflagging as Nijifans and pushing that he insulted Pekora when the song was praising Pekora and calling her a very sweet girl. The only way you could interpret his song as an anti song if if you didn't trust Pekora and thought she was lying about herself. Pekora does lie a lot so I can see why some nousagi might automatically assume that.

>>53231887
Gwelu one was pure Holofag harassment. I would not be surprised if the Gundou one had a big number of Holofags as well since she called them out for being a money laundering scam with their superchats.
Aloe was pure holofags but to be fair she did deserve it since she did try to make stuff up and talk shit about Nijisanji.

>>53231910
>You can't have it both way
Most of the JPs (by most I mean everyone except La+ and Nene) knew they can't have it both way but it seems like majority of the ENs think they can.

Ameribros you live like this?

>no holos again
with the death of Apex, not even Towa is invited

>>53231661
>there are still Brave shills
Look I like the Cocoa skinwalker but fuck Brave Group and their fuckery. The ASMR shit had me livid but there was also deleting the original Cocoa's channel, the fuckery with Saki, etc. Fuck them.

>>53231851
Not likely

Who attacked Aloe over mentioning Chitose again?

>>53231714
Oh look the guy who sperged out before the en concert is back

>>53231869
Give it a rest, retard.

>>53231851
if the pajeets at twitter didn't fuck it up then maybe

>>53231781
My point is that Nijisanjis name is tainted because of Hololive and they will try to falseflag as Nijifans in order to do harassment campaigns which actually hurt the Nijisanji brand just look at Tomoe and how he had to apologize on stream or how Gwelu lost his income due to nousagis harassing him.

>>53231991
Who the hell cares

>>53231910
>>53231975
So we are forgetting about Fubuki already huh?

>>53231991
>no amE
Good, fuck shitpex

>>53231377
with how cover treat their talent like a queen, why no one from Niji or any Brave group strike their company and demand better contract?

>>53231991
Gamma...

>>53232008
His points are legitimate. But I also disagree with him because I know exactly who harassed Delu over mentioning Chitose on a test stream.

>>53231919
Riku is honestly smart focusing on the company first before any of the livers since that would mean that the company can survive even if someone like Mito or Kuzuha decides to leave or does something stupid. Meanwhile Cover iss totally reliant on Suisei Pekora and Miko for relevance and would die without them

>>53231991
>Valorant
Grim

Poor Selen...
>>53232036

>>53232050
Keep seething Holokeks. Your company is being excluded and it's because you guys are rapidly losing mindshare as NIJIGODS keep dominating the charts with our baseball streams

>>53231910
Did they ever collab directly with Hikakin? Also it is not whether the m*le collab benefit the holo or not, but rather the nature of the collab. The collabs that you mentioned and others like to troll with are all older men like their father figures including Inoue. Imagine if for example Pekora collab with Kuzuha you would see all nousagi bringing pitchforks and torches in front of her house. Case in point is that people were mad over the rrat that mfmf was living with Rushia.

>>53231851
wait, so all the millions viewer of Niji tweets was counted just from notification.
kek

>>53231919
Anycolor just sets itself up as being talent exploitative, which causes problems for getting high-end talent in the future as well as retaining the ones they have. Making marginally higher money isn't a great win when your house uses glue rather than nails.

>>53232105
I gotta admit you're right here. Considering they survived Mayu and Lulu gtaduation it's amazing how they're still thriving.

>>53231358
HoloEn inclining?? HomoEns still reclining?

>>53232064
Fubuki never cared about numbers. She never tried to have it both ways.

>>53232095
>But I also disagree with him because I know exactly who harassed Delu over mentioning Chitose on a test stream.
Small part of those probably around 5% were mad Nijisanji fans who were rightfully mad that she talked stuff that she didnt know about. 95% of those were holofags false flagging

>>53231851
no, "human" bots will always be a thing

>>53232138
All I see are VSPO girls, a handful of chuubas from assorted companies or indies, annoying Esports fags, annoying CR fags, and Shaka the prick

>>53232105
>Riku is honestly smart focusing on the company first before any of the livers since that would mean that the company can survive even if someone like Mito or Kuzuha decides to leave or does something stupid.
The company is even more top heavy than Hololive and the structure insures they have little reason to show up for other vtubers. At least when Pekora went on her break only Holo members numbers went up.

>>53231991
Towa is on team 7 retard

>>53232074
Brave Group literally replaced the last group that tried that with them. I know this was years ago but Gamebu got boned pretty much for asking for better conditions from Brave Group.

>>53231714
My nigga, holofans didn't even know Tomoe did an offcollab with some girl until she made that statement.
Most of the attacks against the smaller girl were people calling her a leech and shitting on her for supposedly ruining Crossick. Every single one of them were shitting on her for something that's a nijisanji staple.

>>53231182
The only one I feel bad for in this entire situation is Pako. He is such a big Hololive fan but he has to be cursed.

>>53231993
Saki was a shit vsinger anyway her voice is shit her cover is gritting. She was fired because she misused company assets. I am not saying Brave is not a black company but clearly they are offering something valuable enough for the girls to stay.

>>53232181
People hate to admit it but investing on your oshi/liver is a retarded move since that can cripple the company which is why fans who think this way are in the minority in nijisanji and are mostly holo converts. Nijisanji can always make another Kuzuha but if Nijsanji falls there wont be another Kuzuha.

>>53231991
>with the death of Apex, not even Towa is invited
But she was invited to the overwatch cr cup last month and won.
Towa is bad at valorant anyway and will do a watch along of algs during this time instead.

>>53232185
Both are fairly stagnant at the moment. Give it a month. It does look like Holo EN will pull itself up a bit though.

>>53231991
Towa should transfer over to VSPO, she seems a lot more comfortable there

>>53231182
Tempus and HoloEN proper are actually pretty similar. Gen 1 is full of unstable menhera while Gen 2 is the gen that is actually good, talented, actual friends, and not insane.

>>53232276
And holofags false flagging as nijisanji fans harassing vtubers is also a hololive staple

>>53232334
HoloEN's average is dependent on whether Gura streams or not.

>>53231979
Those are the Cali fags. I can go buy a burger combo meal for $6-8 still

>>53232314
>Nijisanji can always make another Kuzuha
Niji failed for years to make another Kuzuha. Hololive new generations have never been 3 view failures.

>>53232138
You are just posting this to bait people into reminding everyone that Korone beat Kuzuha's numbers last cr cup right?

>>53231851
just a question of whether troll farms are still profitable or not
Captcha: MYHHH

>>53232389
>Cali

>>53231374
You need extra perms and it’s an enormous pain in the ass. There’s a reason literally only Mori’s done it.

>>53232360
Oh yeah, and HoloEN definitely has a member who was subject of two negative [Notices] in less than a year after debut.

>>53232418
They dont need another Kuzuha because they still have Kuzuha but the moment he is gone they are gonna easily make another Kuzuha.

>>53232419
Her streams were botted

>>53232273
Do you think the entire vtuber industry aware on how Cover treat their talents compared to their own company? Every time I got news update from here, the more shittiest my impression about thecorpo like Anykara and Brave group

>>53231991
Never thought I'd be hoping for the revival of APEX. Valorant is such a dogshit game to watch.

>>53231851
>pick one number showing an uptick
>This is the only number that matters everyone use this number

>>53232468
Yeah, I wasn't defending Tempus 1. I was saying that they are the insane menheras just like Myth. Tempus 2 and Council are the actual talented ones with actual unity, good group dynamics, and are much better streamers.

>>53232437
>Cali
fornia….

>having an oshi is a bad thing, all VTubers are replaceable
I mean, that's always been common sense espoused here, but really now?

>>53232514
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As for whether the pop-up store will open the scene to queue up to get the number plate,
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I hope Xiao P's explanation can be helpful to everyone~ Let us look forward to the summer sugar brought to you by hololive meet

Reminder that design is more important than anything else
>Kiara
Garbage design, least popular Myth member
>Sana
Garbage design, least popular Council member (Bae's design is also trash and she's currently the least popular since Sana graduated)
>Irys
Goblina model cursed her eternally, new one was not different enough unlike Azki's to be able to incline her
>Lazulight
Bland as fuck/unremarkable designs that cursed NijiEN girls to be eternal shitters.
>Luxiem
Good designs (except for Shu, the least subbed member)
>Iluna (the downfall of NijiEN)
All designs are garbage except for Maria, but she's too similar to Rosemi.

>>53232372
Gura streaming and her funnels (as small as they are) does help, but there's only so much she can do - shitters like Kiara and Mori just stream way too much

>>53232482
>They wouldn't try to have two strong members rather than just one.
You have actual brainworms.

>>53232446
And in her case she was this close from just giving up and uploading it on her roommate channel before they came through with the perms

>>53232552
If they didn't they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>53232550
>I want holoEN to stream!
>No not those girls!

>>53232437
-fornication

>>53232552
He's right but I personally disagree with him because I actually care about the livers and don't want them replaced at all.

>>53232552
Making another Kuzuha would just split Kuzuhas numbers
Making him after he leaves is the smart move since it retains most if not all of his audience

>>53232514
idiot bugchink
>>53232540
thanks for the translation

>>53231714
Replays to this post are pretty interesting. Is this a raid?

>>53231112
Why are her tits in her neck

>>53232306
>Saki was a shit vsinger
Shit tier taste. Yeah no shit they're staying, because anywhere else they'd have to work back up to where they are again, under what are likely similar conditions, just with a different set of annoyances. Cover hasn't released a new gen in ages, so they're out of the picture. Don't make me laugh by implying Niji is a better choice. 774? Where they'd have a hard grind ahead of them?

>>53232419
Korowho? Kuzuha has real viewers with real numbers

I told you bro, I told you about the lying nijiniggers.

>>53232588
Yes

>making another kuzuha after kuzuha leaves
You mean making another salome? Lauren looks like a future kuzuha but he's not up there yet

>>53232629
just some bored SEAs, burgers are asleep

Will her new cover break her months of failed overs not hitting 1 mil

so who's HoloEN #2?

>>53232647
Niji would be a better choice than brave 774 or even cover since they would actually get freedom of content there like with Mito and Kuzuha

>>53232678
Why is Fauna so cute, we dont deserve her

>>53232709
>>53232678

>>53232705
Song is ass, who are people listening to this shit.

>>53232148
No. But Hikakin send red superchat to Holos sometimes.
>Peko collab with Kuzuha
That's why I said it's not entirely okay when JP collab with male
>>53232064
Fubuki never fully pander to the Otaku crowd. She's a well balance character, appeal to Otaku with her design and cute demeanor, but at the same time she tap into zoomer humor and normie stuff too. That's why her numbers are pretty average if you discount those FF streams.

>>53232617
>>53232619
Mental illness.

>>53232695
Salome was very successful though since she was able to get a ton of sponsorship for the company

>>53232658
>He thinks Nijichads need to lie
The only liar here are Holokeks and their refusal to admit that Nijisanji is the superior company that can bring in real viewers on the fly to a month long sponsored stream

>>53231726
wow, nijiniggers is a hive mind across the globe

>>53232709

>>53231112
>anime girl ops will make the thread better
>thread is literally shittier than the Holo op thread
So what did we learn today anons?

>>53231112
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Magni and Vesper have ceasedtheir activity for time being
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506
>hololive Summer 2023: "Test of Courage" Voice pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BZjkfYKBM
>Holo summer acrylics restocked
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1678343310451314688
>5ch.net is kill
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/ff98ce7a3b04959430c1ae36328eea745139f21f
>VOMS audition moved to next phase
https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1678415817556238340
>Chinese Ai's sound card fried leading to a hiatus
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/816657962280943681
>NijiEN at ACGHK2023
https://www facebook com/anicomhk/videos/1064970761579968/
>HoloID 3D showcase date
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1678388616639414272
>Kawaii auditions extended
https://twitter.com/Prodkawaii/status/1678331677196836871
NijiEN appearing on anime impulse
https://twitter.com/animeimpulse/status/1678479204743016452
>Umisea x Animate merch
https://www.animate.co.jp/onlyshop/494777/
>Flare glasses
https://twitter.com/eye_mirror/status/1678602544841621504
>hololive Meet x TAIPEI POP UP STORE
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678615140588220418

Yesterday's news:
>Fuwa Minato is taking an extended break
https://youtu.be/Fn45Kz25dl4
>Hololive City tour video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPiLIMEct2M
>Myth figures on sale
https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1678116847416123395

>>53232695
>viewbotorderingad.jpg

>>53231919
Yagoo does not have a good long-term strategy. Hiring 12 useless homos that aren’t even worth 1 girl combined. Holoearth was a retarded idea which is why they decided on predatory business practices. The new studio not having staff ready was another retarded decision. If they had to rely on the studio for revenue it would have crippled them which shows it wasn’t necessary.

Could have just made a third studio of comparable size to the other 2 while slowly upgrading the equipment. Holoearth did not need to be the cost of a AAA game. And most importantly if you’re going to do a debut make it girls. It’s the king without clothes

>>53232761
Same people that listen to all the other vocaloid and jpop slop that slithers its way out of the Japanese music industry's sphincter. IE braindead nips, SEAniggers and self-hating mutts.

>>53232709
IRyS!!

>>53232823
Kill la Kill is shit

>>53232629
It's just 2 anons samefagging judging by the sentence structure.

>>53232823
Never accept nijiniggers as part of the community. They'll shit it up, fill it with lies, then blame holofags

>>53232658
What are they lying about?

>>53231869
You guys literally flagged Mio's Ghost Trick playthrough and cased the holocaust

>>53232789
Stop falseflagging.

>>53232773
Just because you cant accept the truth doesnt mean its Mental Illness anon.
Focusing on improving your talents/workers rather than the company is retarded move.
Why do you think companies like Amazon. Apple and Walmart are so successful?

>>53232828
>Fuwa on hiatus
He'll still be in Koshien right? I didn't catch that announcement.

>>53232789

>>53232895
Extreme amounts of government lobbying.

>>53232803
It's really interesting to see how all nijisanji

>>53232482
How?
There's no other existing niji that's close to Kuzuha for gaming streams
If he leaves, there's no guarantee that his viewers would just go to other nijis, considering how fractured niji's fanbase is
Every niji that has debuted from 2022 on has been a failure, with the one exception of Salome, who has since reclined to a ~5k floor

>>53232865
Garbage taste

Holokeks and nijikeks in this thread be like:

>>53232174
Well yes when you listen to the voices in your head anything can seem true

>>53232629
It's just the usual tribalist crap that makes Niji fans look bad. Believe me I just want to watch Igarashi, Salome, and JKgumi in peace.

Wait, why no one talked about this?https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506
AHAHAHAHAHA!

Kuzuha is funnier than the rest of Niji combined

>>53232803
It's really interesting to see how all nijisanji fanbases across the globe all end up acting the same way, despite the en and jp fanbases being isolated from each other. It's almost like there's something inherent to nijisanji that makes thier fans act like niggers

>>53232838
>Yagoo does not have a good long-term strategy.
Amen.
Him choosing to pander to the foreign market instead of just limiting it to the japanese market its the biggest retarded move in his career. Debuting HoloID and HoloEN was a mistake and he should have just focused on the JP market.
But he was so desperate to try and beat Anycolor like some kind of tribalfag even though that opening vtubing to the west would be its downfall

>>53232500
Yeah. I mean, to be fair Cover had its fair share of early trip-ups and the entirety of the industry has improved A LOT since its early days (apart from Sony), even Brave Group (though like I said they're still shit, just not AS shit as they used to be), but the way Cover treats its talents is pretty unique. There's also not a lot other companies can do to really mimic it, there's a lot of institutional inertia that sets in and cements the practices and culture of companies, and new companies don't have the leeway to offer such good conditions.

>>53232873
That was Susan's autocopyrighter.

homoEN us imploding from inside, the only reason why Bluefag is still confident to say that he loves holostars is because he is chosen to be HoloMeet ambassador and he is omega

>>53232991
>why no one talked about this
Anon?

Nijinigger would blame literally anything but their own fanbase for their own shitty reputation

>>53233015
>Cover treats its talents is pretty unique
More like retarded which will bite them in the ass eventually when their vtubers leave.

>Moom hosting the Councilrys relay

>>53232340
Money

>>53232961
I’m not Asian tho, I just want my wife to be.

>>53233073
Retention rate is 35/37 (1 got fired) so I'd say they're OK for the time being.

>>53233067
The nijinigger cries out in pain as he strikes you.

>>53233073
2%chama.. i know you're jealous

>>53233067
They are desperate to change the narrative so they don't get humiliated like this again
Unfortunately they lack mastery of meme magic

>>53232961
>Chinese reaction image

>>53233116
And before you reply to this I said FOR THE TIME BEING so don't assume I'm a shill please.

>>53233004
remember that sophia shit? nijinigsisters harassed her because she won at mahjong and their favorite males lost
this subhuman behavior doesn't really stop at harassing other corpo chuuba

>>53233116
Why the fuck don’t they leave? Why doesn’t Gura fucking leave either???

>>53233073
Right. They're going to drop their great employment conditions for...? You're not making a great case when there's a prominent example of why they should not leave.

>>53233116
They will retire eventually due to old age or irreparable throat damage and cover will be fucked.
>>53233121
Jelous because the retarded ceo thinks that wasting money is a good thing? lol only thing im jelous of is the wasted money earning potential hololive has

>>53233004
Why do you think we call them nijiniggers? It's not just a pejorative, it's a statement of fact

>>53233194
Beats me. EN is 10/11 btw. ID is at a perfect 9/9

nice number thread, better rename it to /sister gossip lounge/

>>53233181
literally overblown shit that was caused by vtuber antis and some holo tribalists

>>53233084
Nice

>Jelous
I'm sorry is this the power of Aus/Eastern Europe education?

>>53232895
>Thinks being an exploitative company like Walmart is a good thing.
Nijifaggots really are the worst.

>>53233073
sure anon, you already said this since the time with Mel and her manager occurred.
If it was Brave or Anykara then they will fired Mel instead of going through the investigation.

This is the company where the fans will support their talents and will always pointing out every single mistake of Cover. Even the shareholders call out the shit management and demand better treatment for the talent!

>>53233244
This is the CouncilRyS general. Yet for some reason salty Nijifags keep coming here.

>>53232995
this is 100% wrong you fucking retard
chinman will always be funnier than kuzuha

>>53233244
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>53233194
Would not surprise if Cover threatened to publicly assassinate their character and get harassed like Aloe and Coco by Holofags if they tried to leave

>>53233283
That's the industry for you. I hate it too. I actually applaud Hololive/Cover for actually not being totally adherent to that norm and I'm mainly a NijiJP fan.

>>53233291
They're sad that IRyS "stole" Enna's spot. Since only Holos can be popular it seems.

>>53233291
Because the retarded op decided it was a good idea to bend over backwards to accommodate the nijiniggers, and you guys all piled in like a bunch of fools

>>53232418
Maybe yagoo knows something we don’t because he is dead set on releasing 3 views

>>53232972
Nijifaggotry is well documented.

>>53232520
So you were trolling

>>53231177
Some actual plausible shit in here anons, not the usual random rrat stuff. They might actually be full on Rushia'd. If that doesn't kill the branch I don't know what will.

>>53233295
numbercunnybros ww@

>>53232540
>pop up store
So this will be the first official store for Cover?
I assume the next one will be America

>>53233332
It was the other way around at first (IRyS should have been Obysdia/Ethyria) but then it turned out to be that (Enna should have been the VSinger) up until Enna collabed with males.

>>53233332
>only Holos can be popula
this is objective fact

>>53232629
No it's just people fed up by the false narratives around stuff like Gwelu.

>>53233194
Why would she leave? Gura can do anything she wants, if she'll take the opportunity.

>>53232548
>Gura

>>53233174

>>53233289
Firing Mel would have no impact on Hololive since she's a bottom barrel shitter.
> Even the shareholders call out the shit management and demand better treatment for the talent!
Lol that was one of the most flagrant paid actor theatrics that they pulled off in order to make it look like Hololive investors cared that much

>>53233425
>if
>soon
>when

>>53232978
>>53233402
See, I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>53232678
>>53232737

>>53231991
>no astel
GET FUCKED
this is what you get by ghosting and ignoring valorant collabs for 2 months
>no laplus
GET FUCKED
not even doing endurance collabs with pro players and vspo girls got you invited

>>53233327
>t. Totally a nijijp fan and not a holofag false flagging in order to suck my corpos dick

ah it's the cover is a black company but don't look at what nijisanji did for the past few months time loop now huh

>>53233431
Mel is actually Mito tier nowadays

>>53233431
>paid actors
You know we should go back to posting the nijicope list, it seems like some nijinigs forgot about the

>>53233400
Behold Niji's first army
-Salome
-Kuzuha
-Vox
-Mito
-Kenmochi
-Sasaki
-Lize
-Ange
-Yashiro
-Deron
-Shiina
-Ibrahim
-Nui
-Lauren
-Maimoto

Why the fuck is some nijinig trying to rewrite history
"Niji's reputation is shit because of holo falseflaggers"
..............

>>53233009
I don’t agree with the en part but debuting homos over and over again shows he does let nijisanji live rent free in his head

Does Aniwhatever have some way in to see how well Umisea is selling? Honestly it doesn't seem like any kagai even know the international shop exists. Why didn't they post a link?

>>53233376
>Evanit0
That was the same retard who tried to push the haachama was fired but rehired rrat and also tried to push the Meiro was harassed by her company rrat. Guy is more retarded than khyo and false combined

>>53233484
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)
> #45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, <span class="deadlink">>>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)</span>

>>53231919
The only reason hololive has a better contract than Niji is because it was the only way to compete against them back then and get quality talents to sign in. It worked since they got some of the top streamers on NND, but now it's biting them back in the ass and investors are complaining that "performer fees" are too high and profit isn't high enough.

>>53233507
Because he thinks that if samefags hard enough people will actually believe it

>>53233445
Gwelu was praising Pekora.

>>53233549
my favorite post, the cavalry is here

>>53233382
Gonna go to sleep but have this

>>53233579
It's working though. Lots of impressionable ENSharts believe them word for word.

>>53233579
Yea threads pretty much unusable because of him though so I'm just sharing my cunny with everyone.

>>53233549
Sometimes I wonder why we stopped updating this

>>53232500
>Getting news about a Japanese company’s inner workings from here
Never change

>>53233602
Do nijinigs really?

Me and my Wife

>>53233629
I forgot the cunny in this one.

>>53233654
Yeah I actually pity a lot of your EN fans believing our bad apples.

Reminder that Hololive City is a flop. They probably paid for all the exposure too, what a complete waste of money.

that's right! because going fishing privates you from all of your hololive accounts!

>>53233534
Tthen you are retarded.
Him pandering to foreigners is what led death to the medium. Vtubing would have been so much better if it was just japan focused since non of the retarded drama or that toxic culture would have existed but he had to put himself and his greed over whats best for the medium

>>53233564
good fuck the investors, i love it when most of my money goes to my oshi not 1% funding riku yacht

What's going on here

>>53233549
mental illness

>>53233692
Enough about Lazulight.

>>53233689
>our bad apples.
its probably a holofag false flagging as a nijifan to make us look bad its not really surprising

>>53233681
More Gura and Shion, less lapshit

>>53233636
Word limit, hence the rentry link
A new curated list taking into account more recent stuff is warranted tho

>>53233564
provide source and link to your statements

>>53233674

>>53233705
This has the same energy as Spain wishing they have never discovered the americas so they wouldn't get butt fucked by Britain a few centuries later

>>53233715
NTA but then Cover shouldn't have gone public in the first place and they'd not have this problem. This month has been brutally grim for Hololive on the surface if everything about every project this month being a flop is true.

>>53233703
I love how ghosting management is somehow the acceptable thing to do.

>>53233755
>flat kronii

>>53233549
it's been a while, used to be spammed every thread

>>53233359
Well TT has friends in hololive and according to them multiple members would start leaving after Coco’s graduation. Good thing I don’t listen to biased faggots

>>53233636
It was because the Nijicoep list too long it got mistaken as spam if I remembered correctly

>>53233549
Almost all of those are done by Holofags pretending to be Nijifags
>>53233729
It truly is, Holofags just cant accept that their toxic culture is the cancer destroying this medium

>>53233743

>>53233753
I mean, it's common sense. How else do you think they got the NND mafia to sign up for them instead of Niji despite Niji being way more popular and successful at the time?

>>53233674
is there a cunny irys card floating around the internet?

>>53233755
LoliRyS isn’t allowed to use bazookas yet

>>53233809
Yeah but then the thread decided that we should totally use anime girl ops and pander to nijifags, now look what happened?

>>53233537
>Aniwhatever
Why are you pretending you don't know the word Animate?

>>53233689
Actually much better for people to talk about the truth since this thread likes to make stuff up to make nijisanji look bad like that fake discord leak

>>53233821

>>53233851
Get a gold first. Then you'll scare them away.

>>53233820
>It's all holofags
you keep saying this but won't provide a source.
bet you won't reply faggot

So the currrent tactic seems to be shitposting about Cover's business?

>>53233879
That just makes them sperg out more

>>53233537
Because the ones obsessed enough to learn about it will be guaranteed customers. It’s not like the Japan market is hurting

>>53233787
Thats because Cover thought they could actually go toe to toe with Anycolor forgetting that whenever Anycolor gets serious people immediately see how irrelevant Hololive is

>>53233791
they learn from gura senpai

>No Shinri stream today
No...

>>53233220

>>53233640
wait, so the 2% was a lie?

>>53233295
>>53233382
More please. Cunny helps keep the sisters away

>>53233890
Nijiniggers are getting desperate after all

>>53233892
Nah, they're only acting this way right now because Niji has wiped the floor goldwise this month. When Koshien's over these threads should return to normal.

>>53233840
Ask in HiRyS during burger hours, I remember someone posting something

have fun dealing with the retarded samefagging pagpag

>>53233862
it's 140 am. I'm barely functioning here but can't sleep till my retard gets out of the ER. So cunnyposting it is.

>>53233689
Unironic BVTM problem where the main sources of containment breaches constantly samefag their own rrats.

>>53233928
Yeah it's actually 1%

>>53233928
Yeah, real number is somewhere along 30-40% of the merch sales which is just slightly below Hololive cut. But dramafags went with the fake news anyway

>>53233910
When has Gura dipped when she's officially scheduled?

>>53233820
> Nijicope #45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad"
Your cope is already covered

>we will be back stronger than ever and we will fuck your Oshi

>>53233890
This industry is built on short term profits and a bubble. idk how it isn't.

>>53233826
They existed first and was hiring first

>>53233821

>>53233703
Stupid grifting beaner

>>53233928
Obviously. We know that Nijisanji pays way more than Hololive. There's a reason why Holo talents are not motivated to shill their merch, they get pennies from it.

>>53233946
Nigger this guy has been popping up every so often for months now, how do not recognise him when he repeats the exact same talking points every time?

>>53233890
Its a retarded business practice. No actual company became big focusing on their workers "wellbeing" instead of company profits.

>>53233981
can you source me? so I can report false for defamation

>>53233981
Could you post the financial report indicating that so the 2% memes die down?

What is causing such a sperg out right now?

>>53234050
The nijinigger ban ran out

>>53234050
one retard

>>53234038
>>53234040
you can find multiple clips of livers saying that they get 30% cut for merch probably higher if your a top merch seller.

>>53234070
>no source

>>53233983
lurk more

>>53234070
then link me one

>>53233996

>>53233946
How new. They sperg out even more when theyre losing. Just post cunny

>>53233376
Evanit0 is a leech, but I wouldn't be surprised at those two being that stupid though. They're probably the least professional people in the company.

>>53234031
It's way more than just one guy, and I don't think a lot of their points are exactly wrong. It's a dog eat dog industry built on short term profits and everyone can be expendable if they are indeed so. Oshi no Ko anyone?

>>53234050
probably a sapling or chumbud false flagging as a nijisanji fan

>>53234070
link to those clips? next you will say it's Enna tier 3 member stream

>>53234050

>>53233952
Based central bro,

>>53234104
I bet you think you're real slick aren't you?

>>53234112
source: trust me bro

>>53233703
Well the last time this happened vesper went to visit his family and camping in the woods

I hate to admit this, but he's kind of right. Holofans constantly pretending to be a stupid nijifans for shitposting purposes. Just like how he's doing it right now.

>>53234093
In your head?

>>53234070
Come on anon, just post them so you can claim victory. You'll end up blackpilling a ton of Holofags in the process.

>>53234050
nijiniggers and bvtm phasekeks

kek another thread about tempus got negative value

>>53231991
Finals of the Apex Pro League us on at the same time and Towa is going to stream that instead.

>>53233703
You can save all the coping they're doing now for greatest of grudgeposts in a couple of weeks if you're autistic enough.

>>53234104
holofags just cant seem to understand that their retarded employee first policy is abnormal and is not normal company policy since its wastefull

>>53234101
Not really, they're just being braggarts here. When they're down they just post about how awful the Hololive talents are.

>>53234050
Gura is back and homos are dead so sisters are seething

>>53234103
All drama fags are leeches, that's how they get their drama. They latch onto whoever nearby has the loosest lips and go from there.

>>53234094
>>53234094
>>53234113
>>53234142
Do it yourself and stop asking for spoonfeed, holy shit holobronies can't even do their own search!

>>53233795
Her ideal body type

>>53234070
I also have multiple clips of niji "livers" shitting on their fans.

>>53234172
this is true, stars are money sink

it's time anons

>>53233703
I hate these faggots so much

>>53233928
If you believe hard enough nothing is a lie. It is an inaccurate statement though

>>53234182
>Gura is back
Probably as a last hoorah before she graduates

All is right in the world.

>>53234127
No not really. I'm just a blackpilled NijiJP liver first JPfag who has come to terms that my oshis are probably working for a black company, it's normal, and while the antithesis to how it's run may somehow exist in its biggest rival, I can't see it being a longterm success because that's just simply not normal in the Japanese entertainment industry.

>>53233636
Apart from them repeting the list all the time it also got too long

>>53234148
>cutting out kobo
BASED

>>53233913
Who?

>>53234208

>>53233703
He may not watch their streams or even clips, but at the very least he puts his money where his mouth is, which is a lot more than what regular homobeggars can boast about.

OK, what will happen to Cover if Vesper and Magni decided to graduate?

>>53234198
Post. The. Clip(s).

>>53234198
kek, nice roleplay anon, but nijinigger is more stupid than this

>>53234206
Lot of holos and stars are money sinks but holo is also too top heavy and will collapse if somoene like pekora suisei or miko disappears

>>53234212
Now, that's what i call a loliposting!

>>53234255
They would need to focus on the girls branches

>>53234214
Surely this time!

>>53233992
I just want the ducking karaoke already
It was delayed like three

>>53234255
hololive will become even stronger

>>53234253

>>53234198
All the research I come up with shows that nijisanji pays their livers 2%

>>53234050

>>53233928
yeah it's around 1-2%. saying it 2% is fake statement

>>53234268
everyone said this when Coco and Rushia happened, but they're thriving more than ever

>>53233703
>Going fishing requires a company notice.
Coco should have ignored this faggot.

>>53234214
2 more weeks!

>>53234255
Absolutely nothing, tempus or not, this is still holostars we are talking about

>>53234155
I realized something about that. The Holo reddit has some kind of score limit for posting, so you can't post if you have too low a score. If the homo fags only post homos on the subreddit and don't post much else, from getting a negative score they'd eventually be barred from posting in it at all. That's why they also post random bullshit like low quality clips of the girls, so they can keep posting the homos.
They're literally forced against their will to post the girls in their own subreddit so they can continue shilling the homos.

>>53234255

>>53234227
Dont worry even if your nijijp oshi graduates there are still a ton of livers you can watch

>>53234262
read my post again
>Do it yourself and stop asking for spoonfeed,

>>53234291

>Pekora, suisei or miko graduating
Holy shit, I've seen this talking point for months already. When are they going start using something else?

>>53234298
NTA neither were 1st army.

>>53234291

>>53234256
It's just content to him.

>>53234050

>>53234255
best case scenario their fans leave too
one can only hope

>>53233703
The cope just gets sillier and sillier