/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53208627
Grifters gonna grift

altare, hakka, flayon, and axel are fine

>>53208627
80% of the company has active rms retard

>>53208627
It's not?

>>53209185
>altroon
>purple xiao
>femboy
>raspberry king
KEK, only the lordcommander, the grumpy old IT guy and the professor have talent, shame the latter two are in hot water right now

Isint the clown making bank

Their true vocation is sucking cock.

>>53209362
>shame
that's a weird way to spell "i hope these faggots get terminated", must be a cultural thing

>>53209128
FPBP

This guy draws a lot of dudes how did he make sana so sexy?

>>53208627
When you're treated like second class citizens, you tend to act like it.

>>53208627
It sounds crazy, but originally even the Hololive members were supposed to do it as a side gig and Cover themselves promoted it as something you could do after work or school and iirc in their audition page they still promote it as such. It was only after vtubing blew up that they could keep it as their one and only job, though apparently some of the JP stars had day jobs too, dunno if they still do. If any of them worked some shitty minimum wage job then yeah, being a holostars is better even if they're not making as much money as the women but can still pay your bills and keep some savings. If they seem to treat it as some side gig it's just their bad personality. Cover wants to hire people with previous "experience" but you can't get experience in not being a dipshit if it's your personality, they consistently fail to screen people properly and get a feel for their personality and what it means long-term. The second wave of tempus seems to be a bit more mentally stable than the first. Vesper is a mess and basically a meme, worse than a woman. Magni is the same and he's an ironic dickhead. Altare is a generic twitter sjw. Axel is just an aussie but not much else goes on with him.

Second gen of the dudes keep to themselves a bit more and just seem to be having a great time in general with it, which is the right attitude.

>>53210189
>must be a cultural thing
you're in /vt after all
personally i'm ambivalent about the two getting the boot, but i can recognize talent

>>53209128
>>53210257
retard

lol why shouldn't they? they know they are nothing but 3rd class citizen in the company, might as well treat the job as such.
>why did they apply then
the auditions were open, retard

>>53210650
Money most of all, I really hate retards who ask ''WHY DID YOU APPLY!!'' when the obvious answer is they need a boost so they don't have to go back to costumer service.

the orange man is good, but i don't think you watch any of them

>>53210844
Pretty based. If the only thing a corpo is good for is exposure then you might as well take advantage

>>53208627
Even the JPs treat Holostars like a side gig because it is. They aren't popular enough to treat it as anything else.

>>53217987
>male vtubing is a side gig
you're right anon but yagoo doesn't seem to think so, i chuckle when i heard him say that he regrets focusing on segregating the girls and boys before they blew up, he wouldn't even be in the position he's in to mull about that if he didn't do exactly that

They clearly are not making enough money so they just stream on their real accounts.

>>53219822
>They clearly are not making enough money so they
so they go to an indie account with even less money?

>>53219278
>regrets focusing on segregating
i can see why, it's a branding thing. i didn't even know hololive (pro) had male vtubers until like 3 months into the hole back in early 2020. a unified brand of sorts could've easily marketed them better
>wouldn't even be in the position he's in to mull about that if he didn't do exactly that
honestly debatable, hololive girls were literal who's when they first started. had to leech to nijis and all that shit.
covid + youtube pimping them up is still the main reason hololive blew up, and the talents took advantage of that opportunity.
which bring back to the first point, all that free boost and yet their male chuubas hardly seen any of the benefits.

>>53208627
nigga why the fuck do you care? you wanna watch cute girls or nah?

>>53208627
They can't deal with the fact that they will never be relevant.

FACT:
95% of hololive fans do not and will not watch males, they're doomed to fail. the management is out of touch and too stupid to realize

>>53210622
Result are everything in the world, they are grieffing so they are grifter and grifter gona grief. Hard to understand for an actual retard, but that how it is,so cope with it the way you want just don't be delusional about it.

>>53208627
I only know the name of Vesper,Falyon,Blue guy,Samurai,Axcel,Hakka and Magni

>>53220364
it wasn't niji leeching that inclined hololive, but cgdct (which was every holo clip that blew up in 2020, none of them had males). cgdct also happens to be a foreign concept to anyone in the west not familiar to things like k-on! so holo had a unique thing going for it; it couldn't have been popular any other way

>>53222785
>it wasn't niji leeching that inclined hololive
didn't say it was. but they were literal whos that had to do it

>>53208627
Nigga, no one at Hololive is commited to being an """"idol""" none of them wanna dance, sing, swear off sex for the rest of their lives unless behind a dirt alleyway, work out and actually put in all that work. They just wanna game and grill, that's the whole point. The only autist that wants to be a real idol was sora and maybe Kiara and even they don't put up even %10 of the work real idols have to do, and besides being that dedicated gets you nowhere, you can be even moree successful just being a lazy zero effort streamer like asmongold and shit like that. Gura is the most popular vtuber and she does fuckall

Because it is? I don't think you are rolling in dough if you dedicate all your time to Holostars. It's best to use it as a springboard for other things. If I get accepted, that's what I'm doing to fund my other projects.

>>53222785
If they didn't leech niji for 3 years cover might have folded before they got blessed by the homeworkchinks

>>53210556
I think the issue with Vesper and Magni specifically is that they had loftier expectations.
Probably thought they'd make more money and be accepted by the larger Hololive audience.

>>53222219
Because they are very autistic about the branding and the weird unspoken segregation confuses people. The nijis get on just fine doing whatever. Instead Holo is still in this weird spot which they never seem to fix. At least they do have better relationships in regards to how the jp talent and us, id, etc talent get along as opposed to niji where they don't seem to communicate

>All the anons itt shitting on the girls, anyone who actually takes their job seriously, does their reps, has any measure of a work ethic, and literally just saying they should take advantage of and leech the shit out of the company
And you wonder why you and your homos are treating like the shit stains you are.

>>53220364
>>Appeal is "Girls only group" idols
>>Other groups appeal is "Guys only group" idols
>a unified brand of sorts could've easily marketed them better
That would have liquidized their entire appeal

>>53224740
retard please. even the most hardworking girl with maxed work ethic in holoen, mori does RM shit.

>>53224740
Oh you mean the hard workers like Gura who stream like what, every two months now? Or all the others who said fuck playing games and just do basic bitch reactions? Come on man, coom all you want but don't pretend they arent any lazier lol

>>53208627
Mori influence, this is especially apparent with magni and vesper

>>53225024
>Appeal is "Girls only group" idols

>>53225269
>Mori influence
>The girl that works the hardest in HoloEN and her RM, and brings results to show
Anon, i don't think you know what you're on about.

>>53225269
>>53225518
I think she means in that she made them partake in her degenerate shit like smoking crack and watching gay porn, not that they didn't enjoy themselves though

>>53209185
Thank you for supporting the cause.

>>53225518
losing a third of your viewers are certainly results

>>53208627
They went in it for the exposure.
Tooo bad none of them watched JP Stars and figured out they would have been better off sticking to their first gig.

>>53225361
Remember what the cabal of white horned horses took from us.

>>53222785
Can't speak for JP side, but Hololive blew up on the EN internet through a perfect storm of anime characters doing "unexpected" things like saying the n word, a global pandemic, and most importantly an incredibly strong algorithm feedback loop. It's impossible to say one way or another that they wouldn't be as popular if men were involved and had parity from day 1 because that didn't happen. People can point to Nijisanji all they want, but their name is genuinely trash from an English algorithm standpoint to the point that English-speakers thought the ones that got some level of international popularity like Hana and Lulu were actually from Hololive.
I'll say this, if Yagoo's hypothetical hindsight vision came true and Hololive still blew up in the west, the medium would probably have a lot more variety and be healthier overall.

>>53225361
>>53227891
Everything changed when the Sankisei attacked

>>53208627
Maybe if they didn't get their progress stymied by pants shitting incels they wouldn't have to

>>53228843
Does anybody have a sorta detailed history of how THEY co-opted Hololive to pander to them? All I hear is it all started with San-ki and nothing else.

>>53224583
Nothing to be confused about.
Hololive popularity will always be centered around the girls not some boring fag twitch streamers who didn't make it as fleshtubers

People who don't understand that are just brain dead retarded

>>53224583
because WE DO NOT WANT TO WATCH MALES

Why does she treat Hololive like it's just a side gig?
It's like she isn't committed to being an idol at all

>>53208627
Holostars gives them no money, nobody buys their merch, and nobody is watching their streams. I'd feel bad but that implies I have sympathy for them.
>inb4 someone yells at me for one of them
1/8 getting money is still fucking sad for a generation of beggars

>>53222785
To some extent though, the biggest thing that made hololive catch on was memes. You give someone one snippet, and they will go nuts.

>>53219278
He's technically correct. He sees how separating them so much at the start hurt their numbers. Was it going to give them permanent popularity, hell no. But it would have given them a better head start.

>>53224167
Streaming popularity makes zero sense

>>53231963
Thank you

But also the audience is fucking retarded. Who asked for a male gen? Who genuinely felt that EN needed ANOTHER shitty gen of males after what nijiEN gave us?

>>53220364
>>53232777
Sankisei might not have blown up if the branches weren't segregated, and Hololive would remain under Nijisanji's shadow.

>>53208627
These niggers were a mistake from day 1
the fact that when some drama happens within Hololive sphere now has THEM AS THE REASON BEHIND IT speaks volumes that these niggers needs to culled

>>53225361
It's ok when japan does it, unironically
These men knows their place, TEMPSHART don't

>>53232902
Tempus was created with eight guys in mind, so they hired eight guys but seperated them into two groups. So it wasn’t anything like HQ was so successful that they had to hire four more guys for vanguard, but that they already had them ready even before HQ debuted.

>>53225361
There's a reason Hololive were failures until Gen 3 saved them.

>>53225361
Yes the appeal is girls only

Who the fuck actually liked this shit? Unless you were the sick bastard that likes matsuri harassing aruran, these wouldn’t even meet the top 200 of hololive streams

>>53234462
yet people loved kronii and bae harassing vesper
People loved it enough to mindbreak Bae into her "what is x?" arc

>>53208627
>mch
>drg
>gnb
>rdm
>sge
>mnk
>war
>sch
wish they played something other than wow so this could happen

>>53208627
>committed to being idols
RORU
RUMAO
In entire cover there is only a handful of true Idols.

>>53236708
And most at least dont treat their brothers across the street like they're Voldemort

>>53208627
No

>>53208627
Still stream more than Gura

Shinri and Bettel are the only good HolostarsEN I unironically watch

>>53235319
Bae was like that long before the collab newfag, the clippers only started hyperfocusing on moments like that to pain a certain picture about her after the fact

>>53208627
Flayon my wife (male)

>>53236640
Omegaalpha ch...

>>53231853
They debuted and stayed in long enough without any Niji or Stars collabs that's it, it's not hard to figure out

NoeFuera Yuri pandering
MarineRushia Yuri pandering
Pekora "I wanna be IDOL this" "IDOL that"

done deal