/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53214541
Is it a Minecraft error or do they all use goofy resolutions?

>>53214541
I think its botan but I'll post fauna here

LOL AMONG

>>53214657
windowed in a 1080 display I guess. unless its some obs thing

>>53214773
US?!?

>>53214773
SUS

>>53214804
>>53214813
Sorry guys, I was just laughing at hmong people
Imagine being Vietnamese or Cambodian, kek

>>53214703
I don't think it gets much better than this

>>53214657
Depending on the streamer's setup, they need to include other things on the screen like chat and OBS status.

>>53214541
I know Botan has a beefed up 4090 setup. There's probably a vtuber supported by Saudi gold that streams Minecraft to 5 people on a threadripper cpu though

>>53214703
wait, how much ram did she said she have?

>>53214657
Windowed so no having to alt+tab to click on something on another monitor

>>53214703
Damn millionaires...

>>53214703
Wtf

>Mori is on 5700 and 3060 Ti

So what's the point of those ultra setups?

>>53215009
32GB

>>53215135
Has she even gotten shaders yet?

>>53214541
why are vtubers such spergs about showing their specs?

I just assume Hololive's internal software is horrifically unoptimized so they need to overcompensate. Otherwise, I suppose it does make sense for them to future-proof considering they're streamers.

>>53214541
probably some twitch vtuber none of you have ever heard of

>>53214703
>32 CORES EACH AT 6GHZ AND A COLLECTOR'S EDITION 4090 THAT WEIGHS MORE THAN MORI AND IS THICKER THAN FAUNA'S NECK
>2 GB of ram
Cute

>>53215439
you can tell she's not that tech savy.
she probably told the one building it to have the best specs.

Vox has a 3990X. That's a 5k $ CPU.

>>53215291
Not sure about this one since some of them started with shitty ass computers but still manage to do some ok/decent streams.

Like with kiara/kronii/ollie/gura etc.

>>53215439
dont worry, she went and downloaded more ram.

>>53215291
If you are rich why not go for top end stuff?

>>53215439
Anon that's just minecrap usage.

>>53215439
Anon that's how much ram Minecraft has allocated, not how much she has installed.

Post your oshi's specs.

>>53215439
That's the standard allocation Minecraft starts with for your ram you dumbshit

>>53215932
>13900K and 4090
>but the game is running at 720p
>not even using any shaders
THIS is what always gets me.

>>53215009
That's the amount of ram you have alocated to the game, it's a Java thing so unless one runs a custom .bat to open the game it'll have a dedicated pool of available ram

>>53216232
>get the absolute best possible hardware
>run it well below capacity with tons of room to spare so it's never under strain and there's no chance anything chokes up
Honestly seems pretty logical if your goal is 100% uptime while the stream is running.

>>53214541
They mostly use nvidia gpus, does anyone of them use amd?

>>53216838

AMD makes better CPUs and their GPUs are good purely for gaming but Nvidia is way better for streamers and generally doing any kind of work.

>>53216680
Surprisingly weak.

>>53216680
didn't she win a better computer by being mid in an apex tournament?

>>53216815
At that point you may as well get a second computer.

>>53215584
>you can tell she's not that tech savy.
That's expected, she's the keeper of nature.

>>53215135
They're like old people who can't into computers at all, so they just tell the clerk "give me the most powerful PC money can buy" and pray that it makes everything run smooth. If there's a technical error due to drivers or something, they'll just think their computer is getting old again. (This goes doubly for HoloEN, since they have literally no dedicated tech support.)

>>53216838
Nvidia probably still has higher gpu marketshare and most oshis are buying pre-builts

>>53217900
They have over 70% and are much better for streaming.

>>53217477
>>53217420
Twa can't into computers
purisu undasutando

>>53216838
minecraft rtx shaders

>>53217477
she probably thought that it would be a hassle to configure the new one, and probably just sold it.

>>53214541
probably Botan.

>>53218465
Actually no. It was top tier few years back but not anymore.

Nice thread, saplings lol

>>53215975
I don't think they even make 2gb sticks anymore

>>53218825
Probably because she actually knows what she's doing and therefore picks the cost-efficient option instead of pointlessly overspending.

>>53216232
it doesn't matter, its not like minecraft ever looks good
>muh shader pack
its lipstick on a pig, just jack up the view distance and call it a day

>>53214703
You're oshi is shit. She should have went with AMD's 7950X3D cpu. She obviously likes wasting superchat money on a garbage product like Nvidia's 4090. Thing is going to catch fire. There is no way your weak vegan arms fully seated the power plug for it and your house is going to burn down. A much better value would have been to go with AMD's 7900XTX. She basically knows nothing about what works best for Minecraft and doesn't need ray tracing for good performance. I give this a 2/10. Try harder Fauna. Don't even get me started on supporting Hololive when there are much better vtuber companies to support with your money. Without competition you're going to have lazy streamers.

>>53219107
10900k is pretty weak for modern standards. It's about on par with 5700 Mori has.

>>53219354

3/10

He would recommend 7800X3D and 4070.

lmao

>>53219510
Myanmar bros....

>>53219510

They 100% have OC versions.

>>53216815
You're not wrong but 720p is massive overkill, I doubt her monitor is even 720p to begin with. With those specs and no shaders you can run the game at pretty much any resolution and have plenty of headroom no problem.

>>53215932
Streamers are probably half of 4090 sales.

>>53218077
>>53218405
towa has a dual pc setup, my towa is smart!

really solid setup from the fatto catto she even runs shaders

>>53214703
Based gaymer mommy

>>53216838
>does anyone of them use amd?
Kiara, but that's info from late 2020s so IDK if she switched

>>53218825
That's her old pc

>>53219510
Save money with pagpag

>>53218916
>fauna 4090
>time to post a thread and dab

>>53224873
which is probably sitting in a closet with the 2080ti build and the 1080ti build

>>53216815
I was always under the impression that having the model on screen and running uses up quite a bit of memory itself.
Which is why it's always laggy to have them when playing Apex, most of the time, and most chuubas resort to PNGtubing during Apex.

>>53224468
Peko's 5950X 3090 PC lasted like a year lol

>>53214703
Fauna just upgraded so she probably has the best rig atm.

>>53224468
Might as well post her desktop too since she made it public herself. Worth noting how it matches the one used in her April fools video, I wonder if Pegor actually went to the cosplayer's home with her own hardware to set up the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkuDnUYLq6c
>>53225416
Right, I remember the 5950. The fuck happened to that 3090?

>>53225358
>most chuubas resort to PNGtubing during Apex
It's because Apex is an unoptimized piece of shit with like 2-3 anti-cheats in it that do nothing. Their l2d uses a good amount of resources but not enough they have to worry about it unless the game they're playing is shit.

>>53215291
Pekora can buy the best PC out there with only the super chat of a single livestream.

>>53216838
Only retards buy AMD
>hurr durr, you have to follow those 20 step procedures in order to install the drivers without any issue.

The ammount of money you save is not worth the effort.

>>53226355
AMD processors are fine though
Their GPUs on the other hand...

>>53216838
NVIDIA is still better for streaming and content creation due to it's superior AV1 encoder.

>>53226355
Been using AMD GPUs for 10 years and have never had any issues. Get nvidias cock outta your mouth.

>>53214541
>7900x+3080
if her prebuilt really died similar to ame's than i think she upgraded her debut rig
her prebuilt was a 5950x with a 3090

>>53229210
NTA, I've been on Team Red since X850XT PE days. Switched to Team Green in 2019 not gonna come back anytime soon, it's just a much better experience especially with the power efficiency of the 4000 series.

>>53215135
Streaming is taxing on its own, streaming while gaming is another addon, streaming while gaming while having vtuber software opens adds a whole different layer that no streamers have really had to deal with before vtubers were a thing. They probably have a bunch of other shit open as well and I doubt the shitty Holo software is optimized very well considering how poorly all the models tend to move.

>>53224298
Kiara has had surprisingly little problems with games, given that she has a RDNA1 GPU, a gen that actually had some driver issues.

Is anyone actually smart and uses two PCs (one being dedicated for capturing footage)?

>>53231320
Towa used to but I don't know her current setup, she was back on single PC for some time. She won a pretty decent PC from some CR Cup stuff I think, so maybe, if she engaged her brain to set it all up again.

>>53219281
lots of shaders are shit since they'll just burn your eyes off
I like what Kaela uses though

>>53214703
>all this just for shitty shaders in fucking minecraft
does it get more woman-brained than this

>>53225912
>Right, I remember the 5950. The fuck happened to that 3090?
Almost every HoloJP that upgraded in 2021 had their PCs explode in 2022. Nene, Marine, Pekora, and Korone I can recall from the top of my head. Only a few still are rocking the early 2021-vintage Zen3 + Ampere builds.

>>53234366
It's more so that the Cover app will always have GPU cycles to render at full speed.

>>53215932

>>53231572
>>53223202
Too bad she cant get rid of her fucked screen tearing caused by duel PC streaming, she should talk to the Vspo girls more.

>>53215234
They think it will show an IP address, which can result in at least 20 fags trying to use it to find them just to say "hello"

>>53236032
i can't believe laptop-kun is fucking dead..

>>53217027
>way better for streamers
>>53218012
>much better for streaming
>>53228944
>still better for streaming
not true, retards
>>53218379
>minecraft rtx shaders
java edition does not have raytracing
amd is much faster in minecraft since driver 22.7.1
>>53226355
retarded

i can excuse women buying the most popular brand because "everyone else uses them" but this board should know better

>>53228944
av1 is 40 series only. but anyone can put an av1 encoder into a computer. for nontechies the nvidia is easier. these aren't very technically capable people.

>>53219354
Read that in his nasally whiny voice kek.

>>53237636
Based

>>53234366
anon, she literally played hitman last night. She was going over all her graphics settings and tried to turn of raytracing and stuff.

>>53237731
your oshi is a waste of carbon.

>>53214703
>>53214703
Why wouldn't you specify that she just upgraded it? you fucking retard

>>53237992
wrong quote? who said that goymers nexus was my oshi?

>>53226355
Radeons are perfectly fine for gaming but Nvidia is way better for everything else.

>>53237731
Before that this video is brought to you by Thermalgrizzly

>>53237636
AMD cards are generally faster for the same price the problem is they don't have Cuda, use inferior upscaling, lack in Ray tracing performance and usually have crap drivers outside games. Go look at any comparison in productivity benchmarks.

>>53238517
>Go look at any comparison in productivity benchmarks
who the fuck cares
this isn't /g/, vtubers play video games

>>53237636
Is this the famous AMD cope?
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/05/02/av1-obs29-youtube/

>>53238540
youtubers stream, which means encoding and also do productivity work in editing software like Photoshop + video editing on top of gaming
And no not everyone has an editor at their disposal including top hololive chuubas.

>>53238600
i can also post marketing material with no context
>>53238659
kiara's channel in shambles right now because she doesn't own the latest nvidia™ geforce™ rtx™ card

>>53238540
They have to use a dozen other programs and many also do some non streaming work.

Also Nvidia is way better in AI and that's becoming more and more important.

AMD wins in budget category that's why all consoles use AMD but PC is more than just gaming performance. If you can afford 4070 and above going with AMD is dumb. Below that AMD wins. You can get 6800 for like 460$ and 6700xt is the budget king.

>>53228944
>Hardware encoding mattering for streaming in the year of our lord 2023
Just fucking software encode. CPUs have a billion cores and YouTube's bitrate has been so garbage since wu flu that nobody will notice the small decrease in quality.

photoshop? doesn't work on amd
streaming? not possible on amd
video editing? forget it
"ai"? yeah, can't do that on amd

you heard it here first from the SEA creature with a 1060
>>53238752
speak like a real person

do they buy prebuilts?

>>53238914
obviously
https://youtu.be/uu73ssSs36E?t=319

reminder of why people would be complaining about streamers buying overpowered hardware
>>53219510

>>53238949
after seeing all those videos of how poorly prebuilts are made i just get nervous

>>53238733
>i can also post marketing material with no context
you mean like you did with that benchmark image?
>kiara's channel in shambles right now because she doesn't own the latest nvidia™ geforce™ rtx™ card
completely irrelevant to the reply chain you're quoting

>>53239156
>you mean like you did with that benchmark image?
that's not marketing material, eposvox isn't associated with amd, intel or nvidia
>completely irrelevant to the reply chain you're quoting
dude you (or one of your buddies in the sweatshop) were literally saying running a youtube channel is impossible on amd
you're fucking delusional

>>53238914
Usually yes. That's why many of them die after 1-2 years.

>>53214703
I'm still using my 980

If you have the money for it, why wouldn't you buy a PC with 4090? I'm sure most of you complaining about 4090 would buy one if you didn't have to care about how much it costs.

>>53219107
No, anon. She got her PC parts as a sponsor deal, and it was the best she could get at that time.

>>53221953
No, it's most likely companies that use it for work such as animation rendering, deep learning, etc.

>>53239194
Nobody says it's impossible you will just get mediocre performance in many tasks and AMD driver support is far worse not counting games. In games Radeons can actually be more stable.

AMD barely cares about PC GPU sales they are focused on consoles and CPUs.

>>53239194
You're literally citing some literally who shill youtuber's channel as your source on how AMD is better for streaming. kek
Noone's saying that you can't stream with an AMD gpu, it's just a widely known fact that NVIDIA still provides higher quality enconding with AV1 and CUDA and that AMD is still playing catch up.
I'm sure all top streamers and content creators/editors in general universally use nvidia, because they don't know better. Please enlighten them and don't forget to kiss your Lisa Su portrait before you go to sleep.

>>53239512
>you will just get mediocre performance in many tasks
you won't
>AMD driver support is far worse not counting games
not true

you are a bot
>>53239547
>it's just a widely known fact that NVIDIA still provides higher quality enconding with AV1 and CUDA
it's a widely known fact that "pc gamers" are mindless drones who are easily influenced by marketing and buzzwords
amd fixed the encoder in rdna2 and cuda has nothing to do with encoding, you know nothing and shouldn't comment on this topic ever again

>>53239407
Also, they just usually buy a new PC when something breaks without checking if it could be fixed by replacing something or possibly even just by reinstalling windows, updating bios, etc.

as always, any mention of GPUs anywhere immediately devolves into AMD vs Nvidia shitflinging
I hope you guys are getting paid

>>53239770
check this out
https://web.archive.org/web/20130915125814/https://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products/
https://web.archive.org/web/20130915143001/https://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/nvidias-perez-they-act-as-our-voice/

>>53239770
My vtuber >>> your vtuber!

My GPU >>> your GPU!

>>53239678
You would think big corps could actually help with shit like this.

>>53239641
>cuda has nothing to do with encoding
Way to out yourself as an idiot. Stop posting any time.
https://developer.nvidia.com/video-processing-software-solutions-nvidia-developers

>>53215234
Avoiding CPU/GPU tribalfaggotry

>>53240256
that's not NVENC, which is what literally everyone (including OBS) uses
again, you don't know what you're talking about, NVENC is a separate dedicated HW block like VCN on AMD
i know you went on google and typed "nvidia encoding CUDA" just so you can post the first link and own the amdfag but that really has nothing to do with vtubers or streaming, stop embarrassing yourself

>>53215439
That's just the default amount of dedotated wam for block game

>>53240326
You made a false claim and you're now backpedalling, because it has nothing to do with streaming. lmao Stop embarassing yourself further please.
If you read a few posts higher you'd see people talking about encoding videos (douga), which is still a big part of a vtuber's content palette.

>>53240464
>You made a false claim and you're now backpedalling
you are hallucinating, take your meds
>If you read a few posts higher you'd see people talking about encoding videos (douga), which is still a big part of a vtuber's content palette.
of course, and if you want to do that on the GPU for some reason, both NVENC and AMF will work fine
no one uses the "MainConcept™ CUDA H.264/AVC Encoder SDK" lmao, you posted it because it was the first link on google and you're trying to prove a point, in the real world you'll be rendering on the CPU with x264 or SVT-AV1

reminder that the person that replies last always wins in stupid internet arguments, and i'll be here until one of us gets banned for off-topic garbage

>>53238914
it was the only choice for some chuubas
the only way you can get GPUs was via pre-builts, botting, or paying the scalper

>>53240790
I forgot how shit GPU market was until crypto meme died just recently.

>>53240598
You can parrot your logical fallacies all day, they can't hide your moronic takes.
You literally wrote "cuda has nothing to do with encoding", which is factually false. You can argue that you meant something different in which case you could've rephrased your initial statement, yet you decide to triple-down on it by moving goals and gaslighting.
Since you have a hard time understanding what my link means, let me put it in simple words that even your limited brain activity can somewhat comprehend.
The CUDA H.264 encoder SDK is what developers of all the industry standard video encoding software (Vegas, Premiere, DaVinci) use to integrade NVENC into their rendering pipeline, which in turn allows content creators to utilize their GPU CUDA cores to render their videos instead of their CPU.
I'm sorry, but I cannot indulge you with my free time further, so feel free to beat yourself in the chest in your next reply like a monkey and declare yourself the winner of an argument you made up yourself, just so you wont admit your own stupidity. Bye.

>>53240598
On paper AMD is fine in reality Nvidia has much better driver support because 75% of PC users and 90% of pros are using it. AMD is good for gaming it's not good for anything else. And even in gaming they are now behind on ray tracing, DLSS and frame generation.

AMD is a generation behind in GPUs. They are two generations ahead in CPUs tho.

>>53241080
Just leave him alone, next post he's probably gonna do a mental gymnastics on how it doesn't matter for VTubers and how you went out of topic.

>>53241080
>The CUDA H.264 encoder SDK is what developers of all the industry standard video encoding software (Vegas, Premiere, DaVinci) use to integrade NVENC into their rendering pipeline
no retard, the NVENC SDK is called "NVIDIA Video Codec SDK"
the CUDA SDK is older from a time before GPUs had dedicated encoding hardware, when only parts of the rendering pipeline could be offloaded to the GPU
>utilize their GPU CUDA cores to render their videos instead of their CPU
again, it doesn't run on the CUDA cores, it runs on a separate dedicated hardware block
NVENC != CUDA
>I'm sorry, but I cannot indulge you with my free time further, so feel free to beat yourself in the chest in your next reply like a monkey and declare yourself the winner of an argument you made up yourself, just so you wont admit your own stupidity. Bye.
does that mean i win
>>53241097
bot
>>53241139
not the first post from this ip

I want /g/ to leave.

>>53241219
>not the first post from this ip
Nice one Sherlock, >>53224298 >>53227862 >>53230083 >>53238474 and >>53241139 are all me

>>53215932

>>53241312
don't care nvidia LLM shill bot
>>53241436
based rig but she needs to update her drivers

>>53214703
Literally just upgraded, you nonce

>>53215932
And her PC is full of malwares so it runs like dogshit.

>>53241462
Of course, why would you? You're a guy who's too afraid to admit CUDA mattered on Encodings at a point. Stay in character please!

>>53241709
>Stay in character please!
lol good one
you're pretty funny for a bot, spare me when you take over the world

>>53215135
>>53230497
>>53217681
Their SOs need to play apex at 4K

>>53241436
>AMD
Nice
>6700 XT
I kneel

dont forget about me guys

>>53243594
Arc will maybe be decent in two years. Maybe.

>>53241219
Someone is trying really hard to justify his mediocre overpriced RDNA3 card.

>>53243846
lol no i have RDNA2 and i'm not a vtuber so none of it matters to me, these are just objective facts being presented to you in a neutral manner
i WILL say that ada makes a lot more sense than ampere did, there are at least some benefits to nvidia's architecture this time around like the power draw (all of your imaginary arguments are bullshit of course)

if streaming was my job these are the cards i would pick for each generation:
undervolted 4090
6900 XT
2080 Ti
1080 Ti

>>53236032
Wtf i didn't realize that laptop-kun was more powerful than my PC

>>53239078
The shit that shocked me the most is that Fauna just got PC with win11 and bunch of shit like Norton antivirus pre installed, deleted what she found unnecessary, and left it like that. Even if we forget about all privacy issues that comes with chuba profession, formatting SSD and installing clean win10 was the right thing to do.

>>53244383
Anon please it's not like she has some super hackers after her.

>>53243594
cheap AV1 encoder addon card

>>53244383
i'm sure norton is lurking on there somewhere... when she least expects it...

>>53214541
Wait, no way 7900 prebuild would come with 3080 is she actually not using a prebuild?

>>53244232
Literally go watch any channel about workstations or any kind of content creation they all recommend Nvidia. Many gave AMD a chance and it was never worth it. Also most of them use Threadrippers so no it's not brand bullshit.

>AyyMD shill on /vt/
For what purpose?

>>53246567
>m-muh techtubers
of course

>>53219510
This just makes me feel better about the ID holos, they're probably in the top 10% of Indo earners.

>>53214657
they arent playing borderless

>>53215439
thats just ram dedicated to minecraft anon

>>53219107
>>instead of pointlessly overspending.
>intel

>>53226355
windows automatically grabs AMD drivers for chipsets?

seffyna she might not get a ton of views but shes got a massive pc

>>53247288
10900K was great, you were only pointlessly overspending once Ryzen 5000 came out