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53182643 No.53182643 [Reply] [Original]

This is the damage that a full gen sabotage does to a company and everyone left in it. Nobody wants to join Production Kawaii anymore. They're seen as a black company by pretty much everyone and they will likely not survive the year.
Think about this the next time you support the reincarnations of Aletta, Sava, Peony and Miryu. They fucked over the people who supported them.

>> No.53182744

>>53182643
I wouldn't want to work with Nene either.

>> No.53182747

Is this the corp that had the brilliant idea of adding m*les
I can't keep up with all these samefagged small corpos

>> No.53182760

>>53182747
no that's prism, this is the one where a whole gen quit at once

>> No.53182796

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_yNCCDscCI
watch my fiance!

>> No.53182858

The audition is for one talent only. Gen 3 weren’t allowed in the same discord as the others for the first six months or so. Whoever gets in risks having nobody to collab or talk with for a long time.

>> No.53182899

>>53182643
if 600 people auditioned for EIEN atleast 3000 auditioned for Kawaii.

>> No.53182920

>>53182643
Anyone applying for corpos who doesn't think they'll make it into one of the big ones has no reason not to put all their eggs in the jew corpo basket. It seems like they pay for everything. Better yet just grind it out as an indie until you can land a gig at Hololive and then enjoy infinite easy money for the rest of your career.

>> No.53182953

>>53182760
>quit
they betrayed the company and were fired for it

>> No.53182976
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53182976

>VOMS just closed auditions and is interviewing people now
Imagine being outdone by a fucking pigeon

>> No.53183002

>>53182858
That's only if they stick with the same retarded rules. You'd think they'd change their approach after Gen 3.

>> No.53183028

>>53182643
Sounds to me like they can't find anyone who they consider acceptable. Given what happened to their last gen it wouldn't be surprising of them to go full Hitler when filtering.
Besides, anyone with an ounce of talent has usually already established themselves as an successful indie.

>> No.53183141

>>53182858
This is the most retarded take, they're auditioning for at least two, likely three. Hell there are two silhouettes in the image. The writing sounds like one talent because Kawaii are ESL

>> No.53183207

>>53182953
whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.53183824

One thing you never do at job interviews is speak badly of your previous employers. Seems like the opposite rings true as well: posting a video slandering your previous employees is gonna turn off a lot of potential candidates

>> No.53183881

>>53182953
>You can’t quit, I fire you!

>> No.53184203

>full gen sabotage
More like "japanese company shitting on their talents and refusing to simply work with them".

>>53182747
That was prism, which is actually owned by Sony and not a small corpo.

>> No.53184221

>>53184203
>owned by Sony
they're so dead

>> No.53184335

>>53184221
They're dead because the talents don't care about streaming and just fuck around all the time, like Shiki randomly going on vacation when she was on the verge of going viral.

>> No.53184371

>>53182643
I'm not into the small corpo scene very much but why would someone apply to this one over Eien which is also running auditions?

>> No.53184392

>>53183028
>company which has proven they are undesirable to be in wants top tier talents only

>> No.53184564

theres still people joining fucking wactor, so its more possible that they just havent found anyone worthy of being hired

>> No.53184614
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>>53182643
Not gonna lie, the whole drama ended up in such a big trashfire with no clear good party, I can't trust neither /pkg/ nor /same/. I'm sure vtubers can actually go into dms with the /same/ girls and get scared of applying as well.
t. outsider that watched some Sava streams

>> No.53184632

>>53182643
that or they are being extra picky this time.

>> No.53184830

I bet the audition process now includes an hours-long interrogation by Nami. She grows increasingly pissed every time a girl quits the company.

>> No.53184923

>>53184614
/pkg/ and /same/ are probably the most untrustworthy generals on this board. They both wish death on anything outside of their circles and are too schizophrenic to accept anything other than their girls doing nothing wrong.

>> No.53185231

>>53184564
Wactor isn't dead yet?

>> No.53185286

>>53184923
Just like /pyon/!

>> No.53185617

>>53182899
dyrbi. take that many applicants and still end up with the shit they chose. yeah.

>> No.53186015

>>53182643
kawaii is Phase Friend

>> No.53186190

>>53182643
it's the pipnigs' fault

>> No.53186268

>>53185286
I've had them filtered for so long I forgot they existed but yeah, similar to /pyon/. /pyon/ is more annoying in that they're all catalogniggers and will samefag until the end of time to defend their oshi, something that /pkg/ doesn't seem to be capable of.

>> No.53186271

>>53184335
>Shiki
Wasn't she being harassed by trans activists?

>> No.53186363
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53186363

>>53182643
>Be a prospective talent
>Research Kawaii for auditions
>first result brings up gen 3 drama
>look into it, company gives no real reasons and suck the manager's dick
>look into reincarnations, they're doing normal vtuber shit and sucking NDA's dick
>come here as a final resort
>One thread discussing Nene's latest clickbait
>Another thread praising Nene
>Got to /pkg/
>They're discussing Nene antis and people who graduated in fucking 2021
>Stop applying

>> No.53186429

>>53186271
I honestly cannot keep track of all the people harassed by mentally ill men pretending to be women online at this point. If a person is online, then they have gotten into an argument with trannies. That's a given.

>> No.53186466

Don't apply you'll just be bullied by Nene.

>> No.53186474

>>53184564
Wactor hires desperate latinxes.

>> No.53186524

>>53186015
>>53186190
kys peruano, no one wants you here

>> No.53186625

>>53182643
I think people have been wary of kawaii since they realized most of the their chuubas have left. the gen3 stuff just reminded them

>> No.53186731

>tweet at people not to join
>none joins
kek

>> No.53186776

>>53182643
Mel Nekomata is applying to kawaii

>> No.53186962

>>53186271
I don't think so, I think you're thinking of shondo who is an indie

>> No.53187069

>>53182760
kek

>> No.53187170

>>53186776
>tripfag

>> No.53187243

>>53182643
lmao get fucked
i dont get why anyone would want to work for a company based in nipland
just base it in USA and have your ground team in japan retards

>> No.53187387

>>53186015
Not /pcg/ cares about "phase friends" leech off of someone else

>> No.53187601

>>53182920
I remember when vt said this about cyberlive. Hopefully jewcorp’s pockets are actually bottomless

>> No.53187871

>>53182643
Or their management didn't have enough time to do all checks on the applicants, cause now one of the talents help them filter bad apples...

>> No.53188071

>>53182920
>until you can land a gig at Hololive
>one opportunity every 2/3 years in which they open up 5 slots out of which at least half are reserved for non vtubers.
This is the same as saying just go all in as an indie.

>> No.53188846

>>53182643
>aaaaa black companies aaaaaa
Meds. Take them.
>>53182744
That's because you're a faggot.

>> No.53189398

Why does Kawaii mistreat its talents and why is Nene such a hateful bitch?
Will we ever have the answer to these burning questions?

>> No.53189547

>>53182643
they're probably being careful and looking for the perfect girls to join. Thanks to Isla they're actually doing background checks now to check for redflags instead of letting any talented girl join

>> No.53189840

>>53182643
I hope my favorite menhera 2view applied, it would be hilarious to see her in Kawaii

>> No.53189866

>>53183881
>I'm not fired, I quit!

>> No.53190092

Noooo I hate Nene because uhm she... she's too GFE and into idols and doesn't collab with men like my oshi Nyanners...

>> No.53190271

>>53189547
What's wrong with Isla? I caught her AnimeExpo performance and it was nice. Don't tell me...

>> No.53190352

>>53182643
Is Kawaii a Japanese corpo?

>> No.53190366

>>53190271
I’m sorry to tell you anon, but Isla, she… She is… From SEA

>> No.53190382

>>53190271
nothing, I wasn't being sarcastic. She's literally helping the management do background checks because the management is too ESL to see the redflags

>> No.53190603

>>53182643
Kek, black corpo at its finest.

>> No.53190635

>>53190352
They’re an EN corpo based in Japan, the CEO and management are all Japanese but speak English to some degree, some of them have even appeared on stream speaking English before

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53190792

>>53190271
Isla yab do not click
For real though when your only attributable yab is something not even connected to you but your schizophrenic fanbase, I'd say that's a pretty fucking high achievement nowadays. Love my princess fr.

>> No.53190842

>>53190792
>fanbase
Qrd?

>> No.53190873

>>53190271
Isla is going to die in 2 weeks bro

>> No.53190930

>>53182643
Isla said that they got lots of applicants, retard

>> No.53190957

>>53190842
A bunch of oldfag coleknights decided the best way of showing how much they loved Isla was to go hard on doxxing her and passing the information around like a badge of honor, including stuff that in her own words "wasn't even on the fucking internet".

>> No.53190974

>>53190930
And? If Isla said the earth was flat would you believe her?

>> No.53191097

>>53190974
I'll believe her over the third worldie retards on this board.

>> No.53191161

>>53182643
They had a bunch of trannies and their own groomer viewers apply even though they said no males. They want to be extra careful and they lost time to check thoroughly because of the concert.

>> No.53191192

>>53191097
but she is a third world retard

>> No.53191260

>>53191192
she is one of the 5% good ones

>> No.53191473

>>53182643
>likely not survive the year
they literally just upgraded their hq space to a bigger one, i think theyre fine without the gen 3 baggage

>> No.53191505

>>53186776
Is she still alive? whats her channel now?

>> No.53192006

>>53182643
Nice damage control fag, can't wait for that company to file for bankruptcy

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>>53184203
>More like "japanese company shitting on their talents and refusing to simply work with them".
proof?

>> No.53192548

>>53190957
the best part is half of it was made up shit because they were desperate to act like they know more about her than the rest of the doxxers

>> No.53193346

>>53182643
I wouldn't join a company with such a cringe name either.

>> No.53193508

Holy rent free Batman. No one wants to join because their numbers are shit and they offer way less in terms of benefits than every other small corpo

>> No.53193794

Only cucktomos would join a company like this, they only had Hana as an ex-member in good stance with the corpo and then they decided to break their promise of keeping her old videos because Nene went full menhera and she called them out on that

>> No.53194741

>>53186466
giwtwm

>> No.53194993

Why would anyone want to join Kawaii when corpos like idol and phase give you much more exposure and do the same if not more for their talents

>> No.53195049

>>53185617
Kiki and Riifu on paper were top tier

>> No.53195061
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53195061

>>53182643
Kawaii is not your friend Nene, you are not an owner, you are an exploited employee being gaslit to high heaven and back if any of the talent genuinely believe that shit

>> No.53195073
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53195073

>they don't believe in digital promotion, so they will never promote you
>they have a points system that forces you to compete with your senpais for resources
>only one girl is getting any support, outfits, or events, and she's probably having an affair with the CEO for all the favoritism while claiming to be her fans' girlfriend
>also that one girl doesn't get along with anyone else
>they will force you to do donothons to justify hiring you, even if it means pimping you out on discord
>did I mention the terrible cut they take from your donations?
>they had to beg their viewers to finance some jank 3D models, and only got to do it because another corpo shilled them
>help with editing and production of your content? lol lmao
>they won't help you financially with covers and originals, even group ones
>here, take some skeb donations
>and if you EVER think of leaving, don't, because our talents and fanbase will slander you on your way out while you're silenced with an NDA
And this is everything that's public. Imagine what it's like behind close doors.

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>>53195073
Oops, I forgot:
>will delete your channel without warning after you leave

>> No.53195557

>>53189398
Nene is Kawaii and Kawaii is Nene. She's hard carrying the company by herself, and the management does whatever she wants because she's the only talent that actually matters

>> No.53195702

>>53195049
I don't know shit about kiki but the only a desperate bugchaser would consider riifu top tier

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53195716

>>53195073
>>53195061
It'd make any sense if gen 3 girls waited until their contracts are over. Instead, kawaii had to let them go because they acted like ungrateful entitled roasties.
They only needed a SINGLE week of being too emotional to drop all effort their fans spent shilling them and shit on senpai they were friends with.
Mozzu a shit btw. At least try barking if you were a fan of other girls(you aren't). That whore who ghosted streaming with "tummy hort" excuses just to jump onto new persona with a shitton of resources prepared has nothing to say

>> No.53196115

>>53195716
There is a contract break fee that is incurred if they end their tenure early. If the Gen 3 girls were willing to pay that, shit must have been truly bad.

>> No.53196143

>>53195716
>shit on senpai they were friends with
"friends" don't isolate you while you are bullied 10 times by a bigger talent
I blame the whole situation on the girls being isolated and basically forced to form a clique to defend themselves

>> No.53196174

Why would anyone even join them? Seriously, why give them a cut off your revenue and be forced to follow their dumb rules so you can take a slice of the "I'm a non Nene kawaii vtuber that struggles to even hit 3 digits" cake?

>> No.53196249

>>53196174
Because there are some indies out there who struggle to get to 2 digits

>> No.53196284

>>53195716
Why do you pretend to care about anything other than Nene?

>> No.53196324

>>53195073
>they had to beg their viewers to finance some jank 3D models
and they wanted gen3 to beg too even though ONE donothon from ONE talent made almost enough to finance the whole thing, and that's just with kawaii's cut

>> No.53196355

>>53195073
>they don't believe in digital promotion, so they will never promote you
Fair complaint, but I'm pretty sure they changed their minds about this.
>they have a points system that forces you to compete with your senpais for resources
This is bad, how? It gives them the opportunity to get stuff like new outfits beyond just reaching certain sub counts by putting work in elsewhere.
>only one girl is getting any support, outfits, or events, and she's probably having an affair with the CEO for all the favoritism while claiming to be her fans' girlfriend
Bullshit, she gets outfits because of her sub count and achievements. The rest is your delusion, seethe about it.
>also that one girl doesn't get along with anyone else
According to nothing but your schizo delusions.
>they will force you to do donothons to justify hiring you, even if it means pimping you out on discord
More schizo delusions.
>did I mention the terrible cut they take from your donations?
Standard cut for a healthy corpo.
>they had to beg their viewers to finance some jank 3D models, and only got to do it because another corpo shilled them
"Jank"
Some of them were made by people that literally did holo 3D models, you dumb fuck. The reason it looks jank in 3D streams is because of the equipment they have at home. And Shiki's contribution to the kickstarter is overblown.
>and if you EVER think of leaving, don't, because our talents and fanbase will slander you on your way out while you're silenced with an NDA
Seethe, /same/fag. The talents set the record straight, that's all.
>will delete your channel without warning after you leave
Wow, how terrible. Nuking your channel a year or years after your flaky ass graduates a few months in.

>> No.53196367

>>53196324
to be fair like 90% of those donos were just 2 autists

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>>53196115
Nothing could be bad enough to not wait at least 1 more week. Aletta's mood did a 180 within a SINGLE week because they schizo'd themselves on their isolated discord, like dumb women they are. Don't talk like they were molested at a workplace when they all live on different fucking continents.
>>53196143
>muh narrative
truth is Gen 3 didn't update any of the senpai about anything regarding the talks like they always did so they felt betrayed. and oceane is a doxxer and a normalfag(I can see you)

>> No.53196476

>>53186015
>>53186190
>>53186776
Can you please drink caustic acid you fucking tripfag, thanks.

>> No.53196688

>muh corpo reputation
I hope their idol dreams were fulfilled with those sub 200 concert tickets that they hyped the whole year.

>> No.53196692

>>53196355
Nene is that you? Fuck off whore. Stop coping, your corpo is a shitstain.

>> No.53196808

>>53196450
>1 more week
We don't know the length of the contract. It was likely 1 year.

>> No.53196839

>>53196367
doesn't change the fact that they got something like 35k from aletta and 10k from sava
if each 3d model is 14k (100/7) they were only missing 11k to finance the whole thing for gen3
they wanted to do a kickstarter for eleven thousand dollars and were shocked when gen3 called them out on their retardation

>> No.53196847

>>53196692
Someone's mindbroken.

>> No.53197031

>>53196847
I'm not the whore spending her life defending a corpo who doesn't give a shit about you outside of your numbers.

>> No.53197127

>>53196355
>The reason it looks jank in 3D streams is because of the equipment they have at home
This. The models and tracking at the concert were great

>> No.53197186

>>53197031
>who doesn't give a shit about you outside of your numbers.
That's every corpo.

>> No.53197259

>>53196808
That's not the point. They needed a single week to make this decision to ghost the fans and drop everything because they got angwyy(?) during talks? At least wait one more week and cool off.

>> No.53197301

>>53197127
I wouldn't know that, they paywalled the entire thing (which means nobody outside of /pkg/ and kawaiicord cared about it), and I certainly wouldn't spend money on a prerecorded concert with only one decent performer (Isla).

I hope they removed the atrocious clipping and low polygon textures on their shit.

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>>53182976
Pigeons are coo, though.

>> No.53197634

>>53197259
The decision wasn't made in a week. They probably talked about it at length beforehand and whatever dysfunction that caused it wasn't going to be solved in a week, and there was probably an incident that caused them to finalize their decision.
If the problem could have been solved in a week, they probably would have stayed.

These are all maybes. Speculation. Rrats. NDA prevents them from speaking out in detail so it's useless to claim their decision was rash or deliberate. What is known, is that all of them made the decision collectively and I'm not misogynist enough to attribute that to a "woman moment", especially with the context of Kawaii's behavior.

>> No.53197778

>>53182643
Rightfully so... who knows what's really going on in there. The whole Oceane got fired (if she didn't have that discord she's be number 1 in the company by now) then her whole gen 3 mates drop out or fired I still have no idea what happened here.

I like to know where they are now except Oceane I already know.

>> No.53197830

>>53195440
It hurts

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>>53197634
>What is known, is that all of them made the decision collectively and I'm not misogynist enough to attribute that to a "woman moment"
Aletta played Stardew Valley, her comfort game, while crying for the entire week of talks. She could barely even speak. That's not a person making a deliberate decision.
Sava was ready to grind her new account and had resources and content prepared at least weeks before that. Despite ghosting streaming constantly with made-up excuses. And the new general of this whore is obviously PACKED with her simps from PL discord.

>> No.53198037

>>53196355
>The reason it looks jank in 3D streams is because of the equipment they have at home
And this equipment was also bought by girls themselves lmao

>> No.53198071

>>53195073
it sure is bizarre seeing the made up rrats about a corpo you actually follow for the first time. is this how holofags feel

>> No.53198178

>>53191505
She came back and died again. She ran a scam speedrun this time.

>> No.53198201

Kawaii has existed for 3 years now and yet they've done nothing to support any of the talents besides Nene. It's basically her clique at this point so I can see why no one wants to join.

>> No.53198212

>>53196355
>This is bad, how? It gives them the opportunity to get stuff like new outfits
Everyone tried to imitate Nene's GFE at first. So not only does it reduce creativity, it forces them to compete with one another. Aletta managed to break the mold and outgrow Nene through sheer effort, and she was only rewarded with a reason to graduate, whatever that was.
>she gets outfits because of her sub count and achievements
She's the only one getting outfits, so your reply before this is pathetic kek
>schizo delusions
When was the last time she collabed 1 on 1 with a Kawaii girl that wasn't an event. How about outside of Kawaii? Not only is Nene a menhera, she's also insecure as fuck to believe other girls will steal her fans.
>Standard cut
Nope. Some corpos offer better cuts than others. Kawaii operates like Hololive while offering none of the benefits of Hololive.
>Some of them were made by people that literally did holo 3D models
Holo cheaped out on their models, dumbfuck, brand name is not indicative of quality. They also overpaid as a result, instead of helping the girls get better equipment, which caused a terrible impression for anyone tuning in. Their first BIGGEST event, turned into a flop due to this bad decision.
>The talents set the record straight, that's all.
Yeah, it's still fucked. Corpo unity does not exist here and it's obvious. You join to get bullied, nothing else.

>> No.53198272

No one wants to join? Or everyone has caught on to the meta of "join small corpo for a free model, create a narrative about being emotionally abused and wanting to leave, all the while getting the indie community at large to pressure the corpo into letting you keep the model since its now you", so they need to find the few diamonds in the rough that aren't just looking to make off with a free model

>> No.53198330

>>53198272
gen3 kawaii didn't keep their models

>> No.53198366

>>53198272
more like keep and run off with simps so you aren't just a 1view starting out. live2D models are whatever and are only getting cheaper

>> No.53198378

>>53197998
>resources
a ready-to-use model several other indies use
>content
literally her regular schedule, even redoing past streams she did as sava
>ghosting streaming constantly with made-up excuses
anon doesn't understand the concept of time being linear
she was traveling to norway, once she arrived there and had everything ready there was no reason to delay streaming
same thing happened when she went back to america

>> No.53198437

>>53198330
Two of them clearly just copied the designs for their new indie personas.

>> No.53198478

>>53182858
>Gen 3 weren’t allowed in the same discord as the others for the first six months or so. Whoever gets in risks having nobody to collab or talk with for a long time
Funny how Miryu collabed with Isla so that means that you're just a thread reading drama shitter that has no clue what he's talking about lol

>> No.53198479

>>53182760
Which one is Oceane from

>> No.53198505

>>53198366
Yeah that too

>> No.53198528

>>53198478
>maybe if I repeat this people will ignore the fact that they mentioned this in the slander sessions

>> No.53198541

>>53186363
Thank you for filtering yourself out. I would also try to avoid retards that take everything /vt/ says as canon and probably make a fuss about drama that isn't even real.

>> No.53198550

>>53198478
The truth is gen 3 made a discord for themselves while everyone else talked on slack. They chose to be on their own.

>> No.53198587

>>53182643
No One Else Needs To Join Because They Already Have NENE!!

>> No.53198669

>>53182643
This is normal, don you know holoen has been extending their auditions for 2 years?

>> No.53198709

>>53198528
Are you schizophrenic? The comment said gen 3 wasnt allowed to collab with the rest of the girls. Miryu collabed with Isla way before those "6 months" of the alleged collab ban. You antis are just lazy and dont know wtf are you even talking about.

>> No.53198784

>>53198272
Pretty much this. Remember that most of the anti corpo /wvt/ whores these days were all rejected from Holo and Niji in the past so now that the tides have turned in the corpo world, they are seething at literally every corpo ever.

>> No.53198847

>>53182643
no, these are the consequences for the way their talents behave (especially nene), this is the kind of company where the best is to record every single interaction with the staff or talents, at some point they will surely try to screw you with something.

>> No.53198885

>>53198212
>she was only rewarded with a reason to graduate
She was going to get rewarded with an outfit like Nene, but she left before that.
>She's the only one getting outfits, so your reply before this is pathetic kek
Yes, because the other talents haven't hit sub count milestones or amassed enough points for them/chose to spend the points on something else?
>When was the last time she collabed 1 on 1 with a Kawaii girl that wasn't an event. How about outside of Kawaii?
That doesn't confirm anything, she may simply not be collab oriented. The atmosphere is fine in group collabs.
>Nope. Some corpos offer better cuts than others.
Tell me about them.
>Holo cheaped out on their models, dumbfuck, brand name is not indicative of quality.
And you expect a tiny corpo to do better?
>You join to get bullied, nothing else.
Baseless, the only bullying that we know of was done by Oceane.

>> No.53198944

>>53198847
You people actually fell for the "Nene is the evil queen" meme? At least it's not as super exagerrated as the Lumi rrat that she destroys entire talents or even corpos single handedly.
It is actually impressive how dumb the average /vt/ user is.

>> No.53199024

Even smaller corpos like Vreverie pulls better ccv than kawaii. Why would anyone join unless they were autistic idol fag? If they want to pursuit gfe, there are a lot better options or just stay indie.

>> No.53199116

>>53198885
>She was going to get rewarded with an outfit
Ogey

>> No.53199169

>You now realize that the main thing that started this drama was Sava getting scammed for 500-600$ for japanese sweets that she ordered, and management refused to compensate for it because its not their problem, all this while she was struggling with money on her "vacation" in Norway
Someone even made a meme posting that snack box and saying *destroys your gen* kek
That even literally started her strike and then she got others to support her and then tweeted how she is so lucky that she has genmates that will support her no matter what
LMAO Sava is a dogshit human being and a scam artist even since her indie days.

>> No.53199190

can you please tell me what is sava called now? i fucking lost the channel and cant remember the name ahhh

>> No.53199207

>>53183002
>People
>change
LMAO. Sure we hope people can learn from their mistakes and change for the better but what often happens is that people double down and stick to their bad habits until they get knocked down again and again. Only when suffering reaches a threshold do most people change.

>> No.53199259

>>53199116
i accept your concession

>> No.53199279

>>53198885
>She was going to get rewarded with an outfit
Now you're giving me bullshit.
>because the other talents haven't hit sub count milestones or amassed enough points
So what's the point of a points system if they don't get anything after 2 years? Retard.
>The atmosphere is fine in group collabs.
Her last group collab was? And one before that?? Nene doesn't get along with other talents. If she did, they would spend more time with them.
>Tell me about them.
Literally any corpo that isn't Japanese.
>And you expect a tiny corpo to do better?
Yeah, with TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND ($25,000) dollars that they begged their fans to give, I do.
>the only bullying that we know of
Yeah, I'm sure everyone talking shit about the Gen 3 girls and how they weaponized their fanbase towards them and anyone else who left, Hana, Aruru, Neena, and Oceane, was just imaginary.

Half the talents in your company have left. I'm tired of hearing excuses from you /pkg/ faggots, Kawaii is a black corpo or dysfunctional/incompetent enough to be the same as one, and it isn't just because people are anti-corpo. Stop trying to defend it.

>> No.53199326

>>53183824
Hololive never slandered their ex-members. All the other small corpos had tumultuous graduations or terminations and they didn't throw angry videos like Kawaii did. Even Vshojo parted amicably with all their ex-members. Why Kawaii wants to copy Nijisanji is baffling behavior. It screams woman moment.

>> No.53199365

>>53199279
the real issue is the dogshit EN vtuber talent pool but we don't talk about that

>> No.53199367

>>53184203
Hololive and Prism are jap companies too and they did not release video manifestos that destroyed the reputations of their talents. You cannot use the racial/cultural excuse.

>> No.53199366

All these threads are created by a guy that is still butthurt because Beryls/Hanas vods got deleted from the kawaii channel after being there for TWO FUCKING YEARS!
This is apparently a huge deal for this subhuman ape. Its like when a tribesman gets offended that you didnt try his deliciously home cook bat intenstines wrapped in cow shit.
His persistency to anti kawaii over this is actually hilarious.

>> No.53199387

they get outfits at milestones like 50k so they were already in the works. holo and niji does the same newfag... go back to your discord

>> No.53199388

>>53197998
sava and miryu are evil whores they dragged aletta down with them peony followed aletta

>> No.53199400

>>53199365
There's plenty of excellent talents. They just lose them because of their incompetence or because of their maliciousness, depending on your perspective.

>> No.53199403

>>53184371
Eien has terminated Riifu and the Chair Girl

>> No.53199446

>>53199366
Deleting the VODs WITHOUT WARNING is pretty fucking scummy.

>> No.53199456
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>>53182643
>whole gen leaves at once
>double down on we're not a black company by running a pr campaign shit talking them for leaving
>back fires because small corpo fans are loyal to their oshi that reads out their comment personally rather than a brand
>NotGen 3 content has basically stayed the same if not improved with NotSava even running a 4 item merch release that will be shipped out before the Gen 3 half year anniversary merch for a fraction of its price
>All the girls will debut in the coming months as an indie group with models they personally designed
The only one that lost is a random japanese company saying what you want to hear in public while hiring girls like Oceane and Neena in private
You're not dumb enough to have brand loyalty just because you heard "no males" are (You)?

>> No.53199458

>>53199366
He seems pretty based.

>> No.53199500

>>53184371
talentless whores go to eien girls that want a 3D model and concerts go to kawaii

>> No.53199540

>>53199456
I'm looking forward to their debut. Spica's model, if based on her art, looks pretty fucking cute.

>> No.53199592

>>53182643
i will support airi and you won't fucking stop me.

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>>53199279
you literally didn't watch kawaii. they had clear 50k milestone outfit and girls talk about this all the time??? where is your kind coming from even, some anti-corpo plebbit general??

>> No.53199627

>>53199400
No sure about that, I see vtubers being basically twitch thots all the time in the EN indie sphere. That's definitely not the style PK wants to go now. I assume they got a ton of those applications and looked at their twitter, saw some kind of #vtuberFaceReveal or #immersionbreak, political agendas or links to OF/fansly content and just binned it.

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53199747

All these /same/defenders itt, yet barely anyone watches them. As always, these falseflagging troons don't care about the girls, they just have a hateboner for all corporations
>streamed 9 days ago
>streamed 8 days ago
>streamed 6 days ago
Well, to be fair they barely stream so these troonies couldn't watch them even if they wanted to, which they don't
The only one who streams consistently, still less then before, but I digress , is the whorse, who went from an explosive growth potentially overtaking nene in a few months, to now being left in the dust by her formerly far faaaar less popular genmates, surviving on scraps

>> No.53199795

>>53199627
>some kind of #vtuberFaceReveal or #immersionbreak, political agendas or links to OF/fansly content and just binned it
i checked the chubba likes on the auditions tweet and this was most of them sadly

>> No.53199805

>>53199595
Is that why Lua got a new outfit recently? Also, if none of them can reach that milestone after 2 years, then it's intentionally malicious, just like when PRISM locked monetization behind an arbitrary sub count number.

You /pkg/ faggots are insufferable. I understand defending Nene, but defending the corpo? Pathethic.

>> No.53199815

>>53199500
Skye - can sing, rig, draw, and is both entertaining and talks nonstop which I love.
Kilia - amazing singer who also wrote and produced two originals, comfy chaotic girl
Kiki - not as talented as the other two but is still known for her pixel art which is a niche that hasn’t been tapped by any corpo vtuber
Nice talentless whores ya got there

>> No.53199823

>>53199279
>Now you're giving me bullshit.
What? She met the requirement, do you actually think only Nene gets outfits because she's fucking the CEO or something?
>So what's the point of a points system if they don't get anything after 2 years? Retard.
It hasn't been 2 years since the point system was instated, hasn't it? And outfits aren't the only thing they can get with them, as far as I recall.
>If she did, they would spend more time with them.
If you say so.
>Yeah, I'm sure everyone talking shit about the Gen 3 girls and how they weaponized their fanbase towards them and anyone else who left, Hana, Aruru, Neena, and Oceane, was just imaginary.
Who did they "weaponize" and how? No one was weaponized towards Hana and Aruru, no one attacked them and they're well liked by the fanbase (though Aruru ghosting her fans pissed some of them off). Neena and Oceane were rightfully terminated for unacceptable behavior and are disliked because of that. The "shit talking" against gen 3 is pretty mild, mostly the remaining talents being baffled by their decisions.
>Kawaii is a black corpo or dysfunctional/incompetent enough to be the same as one, and it isn't just because people are anti-corpo. Stop trying to defend it.
They are incompetent to a degree. Better than most of the small corpos that imploded before them, worse than others. Calling them a black corpo is silly, however. You'd think they're doxxing, harassing, trapping or suing talents based on what you overly melodramatic guys say.

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>> No.53199869

>>53199387
One of the kawaii talents also has enough points for her to get an outfit before her planned sub milestone outfit.
I wouldn't be too surprised if nene has an ego that the other girls have to tiptoe around, but most posts about kawaii being a black corpo are just anti-corpofags or retards who are out of touch of reality.

>> No.53199934

>>53199805
Outfits take time to make and rig, Lua has people working on it and will get it when it's done. Reina has her outfit already done, she just needs to reach 50k to unlock it, or the equivalent points needed, something like that.

>> No.53199975

>>53199366
>butthurt because Beryls/Hanas vods got deleted
Based.
You wake up and see no vods on Nene 's channel and "le announcement" on Charzu/Nami channel. Your actions?

>> No.53200061

>>53199823
>do you actually think only Nene gets outfits because she's fucking the CEO or something?
Pretty much. She's the only one with other outfits.
>And outfits aren't the only thing they can get with them, as far as I recall.
Like what?
>Who did they "weaponize" and how?
By talking shit about the talents and letting their fans speculate that the Gen 3 girls were "at fault". This is just like when Nijisanji gave the laundry list for Zaion and were like "tee hee, our fans actions aren't ours!"
>Better than most of the small corpos that imploded before them
No. They're considered one of the worst corpos outside of /pkg/. Only WACTOR and Nijisanji are worse.

>> No.53200158

>>53199975
If I liked the talent that much, I most likely already archived everything that I needed. Charzu didn't even graduate and I still have a bunch of her iconic streams saved.

>> No.53200244

>Outfits take a lot of recourses and time guys
>/same/ already has their model and is rigging them
>Peony's is from the same artist
If they can do everything themselves without having to bust their ass for good girl points what's the point of corpos? To punish your oshi if she goes menhera cause you have shit taste?

>> No.53200261

>>53182643
I understand Neena and Oceane, but the concentrated smear campaign against the other gen 3 girls leaves a sour taste that can't be ignored. The Kawaii shills on this board must really think they're doing the company a favor when they make a hundred threads calling the former gen 3 girls traitorous whores, but if I were a prospective applicant that shit would scare me away.

Besides, the small corpo sphere isn't as small now as it was two years ago. There are far more places to audition for now, and a corpo with a 53% graduation rate and a history of slandering its former employees isn't going to be anyone's first choice.

>> No.53200290

>>53199815
You forgot to mention that half of the Eien girls and even the CEO are literal cam whores/onlyfans whores.
Kiki quite literally took a giant shit into her fans mouths with the whole chair incident and she does GFE while openly trashing GFE enjoyers and unicorns in her past life, and her literal boyfriend was in one of the lobbies of the game that she played with fans and they were both laughing about it being extra smug.
Eien is probably one of the most dogshit corpo in recent history.

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>>53199595
>they had clear 50k milestone outfit
Lua's outfit doko???

>> No.53200345

>Peony graduates from Kawaii
>Her first stream as an indie was with a /wvt/ whore that literally showed her tits on /trash/
Check the archives. Good fucking riddance.

>> No.53200413

>>53200244
It's pretty crazy how /same/ seems to be better run, despite it being a loose collection of indies who are just friends.

>> No.53200436

>>53199747
>The only one who streams consistently,
Is Nene because she is fulltime streamer
Hi cucktomo

>> No.53200435

>>53200320
Are you retarded? She hit 50 fairly recently. You do realize those things take time? And maybe she didnt even decide on what to get and is still considering designs.
Try harder faggot. You are beyond pathetic antiing kawaii for months and months. You could be the most butthurt anti in history of /vt/. You make Henri look like a sane person.

>> No.53200502

>>53200413
>/same/ seems to be better run
>you need to pray for them to actually stream
>2 out of 2 girls got their new models and the rest is still streaming with those abominations
What exactly is there to "run" if I may ask?

>> No.53200535

The number one biggest problem with Kawaii is that a few of their fans bragged about "having no drama" and that "all the other corpos have drama except Kawaii who is so much better." Now I check /pkg/ and it is 90% drama 10% coom-speak.

Drama is human-nature. Denying natural impulses always leads to ruin. This doesn't mean that we have to act out every impulse like animals but it does mean we have to acknowledge that theses urges, like the urge for drama, exists and then choose whether to act or not act on these primal urges.
The arrogance in Kawaii has manifested in a second way where Kawaii fans claim they are more idol than everyone else, even Hololive. That may be true, or not, but acting like some sort of aristocracy only means that a yab, when it happens, becomes like an aristocrat's fall which is much higher than the typical /vt/ peasant.
Finally, arrogance is an attitude of error, a mistaken attitude, and errors require correction.

>> No.53200567

Just scout someone you retards so many talented indies out there

>> No.53200593

>>53199403
>>53184371
and riifu is coming back with her own revenge corpo. It's an exciting show.

>> No.53200650

>>53200290
Very nice misinformation sir! Thank you! o7

>> No.53200671

>>53200261
>The Kawaii shills on this board must really think they're doing the company a favor when they make a hundred threads calling the former gen 3 girls traitorous whores
That never happened.
>>53199975
I don't care about Nene, so I'd shrug. And if I did, I'd beat myself up for being a retard, because 2 years was plenty of time to archive her shit.

>> No.53200674

>>53200502
The fact they have models already makes them better kek

>> No.53200683

>>53200435
Doko?
Doko
Doko??

>> No.53200733

>>53200244
To not have to organize that stuff by yourself. Sure it works for simple stuff like model and rigging, but even just going into making merch you start getting into troubles that are not directly related to streaming. For anything more than that, it's very hard to accomplish anything without going mental in the process.
I follow the /same/girl and they already had issue with merch and timing of their debuts due to rigging issues. The indie world is not as good as it seems either.

>> No.53200757

>>53200244
>>Peony's is from the same artist
Wow

>> No.53200789

>>53199169
It wasn't even a scam
She just didn't cancel the subscription before the expiration date and the auto-resub fee kicks in.

>> No.53200824

>>53200535
>he judges the entire company based on what is being said on /vt/ when everyone can pretend to be a fan of this or that talent and falseflag with something.
Are you really this stupid?

>> No.53200919

>>53200158
>didn't even graduate
I'm about "le evil Nene betrays le company" announcement

>> No.53200937

>>53200683
>trying to push a rrat that lua reached her goal but le evil management or even better evil nene is cockblocking her from getting it
absolutely mindbroken kek. keep seething.
there's your material for the next anti thread btw. go ahead and post it you braindead low T faggot. cmon chop chop!

>> No.53201022

>>53200061
>Pretty much. She's the only one with other outfits.
You're a schizo, I'm sorry. That's a way, way out there rrat founded on nothing.
>No. They're considered one of the worst corpos outside of /pkg/. Only WACTOR and Nijisanji are worse.
There's a fuckton of current or failed small companies that have imploded that are worse. If you're only thinking of Hololive, Phase and Idol, no shit Kawaii is worse.

>> No.53201039

>>53200261
>Neena and Oceane
>Kawaii gives open explanation of everything that happened
>Gen 3
>Kawaii says nothing "out of respect for the talents" the same respect they never Oceane or Neena
>They're bad just trust us bros
/pkg/ fags are delusional for thinking anyone willing to research or read through archives would believe them
>>53200502
organizing debuts, new models, debut animations, chat ui, backgrounds, streaming screens, song covers, 3 foreign trips, dental surgery, and coordinating merch released that will put the merch in the fans hand within the same year they bought it. Just things you would know if watched them instead of reading threads

>> No.53201046

This thread is so funny because it is obviously made up of thread readers so you see 2-3 different rrats combined into one and sometimes even rrats attributed to other corpos now being presented like they are kawaii's "yabs".
LMAO never change /vt/ you dramafaggy shitters.

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what a bunch of schizos

>> No.53201148

>>53200937
Lua's fans can be mindbroken, why not?You don't care about Lua, obviously, you are fine with Nene and her outfits

>> No.53201160

>>53201039
>3 foreign trips
wtf they already fucked off again??? What's with vtuber and being constantly on holiday abroad lmao

>> No.53201165

>>53201022
Of course he's a schizo. He's been making kawaii anti threads for a while now lol. Guy is completely mindbroken that Hana's vods got deleted after 2 years. This is unironically the main reason of his antiing. He even admitted it in the kawaii general recently that it is a matter of "le principle" and that kawaii deserves all the hate.
Like imagine doing this with your free time lol. Fucking swallow a shotgun you retard.

>> No.53201304

>>53201039
>Just things you would know if watched them instead of reading threads
So gen 3 girls doing basic stuff for starting over is "being better organised".
But Kawaii being at the offkai and then having a concert in LA is a proof how gen 3 girls are "better at organizing" than Kawaii?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.53201323

>>53201160
More like Peony goes to bongland to make off collab kino

>> No.53201366

>>53201148
Lua is actually my oshi. I don't think I watched Nene more than 10 times combined in my entire life. Her laugh filters me hard. You are just making shit up and obviously dont watch streams. Good luck with your next bait thread tho.

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>>53201304
>virtual youtubers
>live events
who cares?

>> No.53201410

>>53201304
Kawaii got mogged hard at Offkai

>> No.53201429

>>53200683
Wow you are actually seething right now RUMAO. Beautiful.

>> No.53201502

>>53200345
^ That is all you need to know about the "quality" of gen 3 girls.

>> No.53201533

>>53201165
Dude has principles, that's respectful

>> No.53201538

>>53201410
Isla was one of the better performers there, although her bit was prerecorded and the rest weren't. How did they get mogged?

>> No.53201616

>>53201395
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>HOLOLIVE: huge concerts
>Nijisanji: huge concerts
>even fucking Vshojo had a concert in JAPAN
>W-well...y-yeah but ...w-who cares about that!
Western indie trash fucking kill yourselves you scum. Ironic weeb garbage.

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>>53201502
That they don't schizophrenically research every twitter mutual they collab with like /pkg/ posters?

>> No.53201667

>>53200824
The white knights in this thread are too obvious and too specific in their defenses. There is also an air of arrogance about them. The first point of arrogance is thinking we wouldn't notice. The second, that anyone cares about literally whos beyond the human nature to laugh at clowns and drama. Their third arrogant belief is that they believe their actions will improve Kawaii's reputation instead of making it look worse. It's hard to shake off allegations of being the evil queen, it's even harder when anyone who speaks of such a topic is mobbed by a band of white knights.

>> No.53201735

>>53200683
It's hilarious that these retards keep trying to justify their corpo's shit decision to gatekeep supporting their talents.

They never invest in their talents and pocket all the money. Kawaii is smart in that they leech of the hard work of the girls, but the girls are stupid for being faithful to them. That's why everyone who wasn't stupid already left.

>> No.53201748

>>53201616
Nene, fix your 3d model's issues at home

>> No.53201797

>>53201533
>be a man
>throw a hissy fit every other day for months because of vods
>this is somehow admirable because he has "principles"
nah he is just a literal mindbroken tranny. watching vtubers is faggy enough even for normal dudes. this guy unironically acts like a chick on the rag and it is beyond pathetic to see
>>53201410
Moving goalposts? No one said that Kawaii was the best ever. The question was about organisation and attenting two events like that clearly shows that they were organised.

>> No.53201837

>>53201648
>Collabing with literal whores is LE GOOD
As much as I want to root for indies you sure are making it difficult.

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>>53201616
>kawaii is on the level of vshoujo, niji, hololive

>> No.53201896

>>53199190
Check /same/ She's Mozumi Pichi

>> No.53201902

>>53201797
>he is just a literal mindbroken tranny
And Nene is literally mindbroken menhera

>> No.53201947

>>53201856
This is the type of arrogance I've noticed that is endemic to Kawaii. They have many opportunities to repent but if not, there is still much pain that they can suffer until at such point their karma is cleansed.

>> No.53201987

>>53201856
>still moving those goalposts
the original argument was who cares about live events when it comes to vtubers
you now turned it into "kawaii fans are saying that kawaii is on the same level as..."
absolutely hilarious. keep going tranny.

>> No.53202011

>>53201947
hanaschizo, please

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>>53182747
>Obsessed with males to the point putting everything yab was caused by males
Careful anon, you're this close to catch the gay.

>> No.53202109

>>53182643
Fuck off. I will support the 4 buddies ESPECIALLY because they had the balls to leave that shitty place.

>> No.53202110

>>53201947
>They have many opportunities to repent
Twitter tranny mentality. As expected from /wvt/ subhumans.
>APOLOGIZE! YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE!
Lmao eat ass. Once you bow down to trannoids like you they want even more and will follow your every step just to attack your for something minor and force you to bow down again.

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People in this thread unironically think Nene is an evil mastermind controling Kawaii behind the scenes lol

>> No.53202152

>>53182976
That pigeon have eyes for talent anon. Ryugon and Miuneru are good Vtubers.

>> No.53202157

>>53201022
The only companies I can think of that have more dirty laundry than Kawaii are WACTOR, NijiEN, and MyHoloTV. /vt/ can keep arguing about Kawaii for months on end, but the fact that there's so much to argue about to begin with is already a red flag.

>> No.53202159

>>53201304
And if the rrats about kawaii purposefully choosing the day before holo's concert is true, that'd be impressive on their part. I don't know if they ever addressed it and anyone who's had to organize events knows how unrealistic that is so the rrat is probably fake

>> No.53202203

>>53202152
Not to mention Pikamee

>> No.53202235

Panko Manko

>> No.53202272

>>53183824
>>53199326
What video?

>> No.53202288

>>53202157
>The only companies I can think of that have more dirty laundry than Kawaii are WACTOR, NijiEN, and MyHoloTV.
Yes, because shite like Cyberlive and many others are long gone.
>>53202159
>And if the rrats about kawaii purposefully choosing the day before holo's concert is true
It isn't.

>> No.53202295

Add Phase back to friends. Lumi is our friend just for taking a giant shit on Menace and her group of trannies.

>> No.53202336

I'm seeing a lot of the Whorse Discord Groomers and paypigs here coping hard and trying to bring the corpo down because they got scammed and cvcked by supporting a whore.

Kawaii fucked themselves for not firing them all the moment the Whorse caused the drama with a nijigroomer.
>QRD?
Creamed herself over Alban ON STREAM, unfollowed him because people called that out, and finally followed him again on Twitter, doubling down, making her followers the biggest cvcks of the board because they not only accepted that but sent her money for her subathon before her bailing out of the corpo, literally condom money for a Niji male.

>> No.53202333

>>53201987
Yeah people care about live events if your big enough to attract a normie audience that goes to live events. But almost no one cares about them in small corpo land you disingenuous faggot
The new york anime expo was a total failure

>> No.53202376

>>53202157
>more dirty laundry than Kawaii
List all the kawaii dirty laundry that you have a clear proof off and not just /vt/ rrats that you overtime convinced yourself are actually true. I'll wait.

>> No.53202458

>>53183824
I'm sorry but have you watched Aletta? Half of her zatsudans were talks about her previous workplaces and how apparently everyone ever mistreated her in one way or another. Actually impressive level of victim mentality right there.

>> No.53202489

>>53198479
She was Kawaii's gen 3. She got kicked out for allegedly doxxing and slander her company.

Now she is doing fine as an indie

>> No.53202520

>>53202336
whorse discord groomers and paypigs are the same kawaii discord groomers and paypigs

>> No.53202556

>>53202333
The fans clearly cared. Charzu was getting large donos in her streams after the concert. Now where else are you going to move the goalposts?

>> No.53202600

>>53184923
>They both wish death on anything outside of their circles
not true for /same/
>are too schizophrenic to accept anything other than their girls doing nothing wrong.
this is true for /same/ and I think it's because Kawaii has always been gfe on steroids, and most of the runaway girls were steeped in the same culture. therefore /same/ has an amount of schizo goslings off the charts.

>> No.53202606

>>53184923
>/pkg/ and /same/ are probably the most untrustworthy generals on this board.
Most /pkg/ and /same/ fans actually still watch girls from both groups. You fell for falseflagging and retarded rrats which is a shame but oh well...
I myself still watch Miryu/Spica and Isla from both "corpos" / groups. There are plenty of people like that believe it or not and we generally like the girls.

>> No.53202707 [DELETED] 

>>53202146
arya_cos playing? Those glasses look fun.

>> No.53202847

>>53185286
>>53186268
Fun fact about /Pyon/ and Kawaii that somehow brings them together. Old Nene anti became a fan of Kiki and started antiing her as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is actually one of these schizos
>>52293248

>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Nene+anti+Pyon

>> No.53202913

>>53202707
>mindbroken anti resorting to doxx info
LOL pathetic subhuman

>> No.53202929

>>53202336
So are you going to explain how they got scammed or cucked or are we just supposed to pretend that acknowledging a male vtuber in chat and later apologizing for it is somehow cuckoldry?

>> No.53202953

>>53202376
53% graduation rate and a history of the talents talking shit about the former employees aren't enough for you? You explain to any prospective talent why that shit should be overlooked.

>> No.53202986

>>53202333
>disingenuous faggot
Oh your seethe is delicious. Again, the question was about the groups organisation. Not if thousands of people or only a hundred will appear.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ABSOLUTELY MINDBROKEN DRAMA TRANNOID!!!

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>>53202110
>He thinks repenting means shallow verbal apologies
Repenting is between you and God. It has nothing to do with the public. All that we can see is that you change your behavior. This is how we know.
>>53202288
>Cyberlive
Reminder that Menace/Coni is Sava's best friend and was the one who came up with the idea of a whole gen walk-away / blackmail plan. The first one to follow the Kawaii girls after their termination was Coni back when she was still Menace. She works for Idolcorp now which is the jewcompany headquartered in israel.

I cannot trust anyone from Cyberlive and so I cannot trust Sava/Mozu.

>> No.53203115

>>53182643
>they will likely not survive the year.
They don't need a new gen to survive, they are surviving 3 years already
New gens are made to expand, so even if they can't get a new gen, they will survive

>> No.53203116

>>53202336
>drama with a nijigroomer
I'm not even Aletta's fan and even I have to defend her on this. Niji male talent dropping by and just saying hi, made retards like you create outlandish rrats how she "creamed herself live on stream".
Try harder next time, that rrat is unironically pathetic. The only "yab" that happened there according to drama sisters, is that a male vtuber said hi to a female vtuber.

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>>53202556
>Paypigs paypigged over event so everyone cared about event
>goalpost moving

>> No.53203174

>>53202913
Go back to discord pussy

>> No.53203212

>>53202847
Comments? No? Nothing on this? Hmmm yeah, definitely nothing suspicious here. Just an organi anti thread .

>> No.53203235

>>53203134
At this point, I'm convinced you're falseflagging to make actual Airifags look retarded.

>> No.53203239

>>>>53197778
If Mozu had never met Menace, I can safely say that all of Gen3 would still be in the company today. Including Oceane.

>> No.53203268

No one wants to join Kawaii because they're a bad company who takes half your money for nothing in return. This cope is laughable

>> No.53203298

>>53184392
This is like those companies who open job offers but their requirements were like "Need to be proficient in X software for 10 years" when the software is only 5 years old.

>> No.53203302

>>53203235
Of course he's falseflagging. There's a guy that goes to /same/ calls all girls whores and then comes over to /pkg/ to say how /same/fags are raiding them. Meanwhile /same/ is literally dead at the time and no one is posting. Guy is not a very smart cookie.

>> No.53203301

>>53202336
Fans who police your every interaction and call you a whore for any perceived slight aren't worth having

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>>53202986
>>53201987
>the original argument was who cares about live events when it comes to vtubers
>No one cares
>ACKTUALLY the question was about the groups organisation

>> No.53203424

Why is /vt/ so quick to defend massive corporations? You would think people on this site would be more willing to support underdogs over huge Japanese conglomerates.

>> No.53203432

>>53202953
>53% graduation rate
Didn't happen. 0% graduation rate, all of 7 girls are fine

>> No.53203467

>>53203235
>actual Airifags
she still has fans?
aside from that one groomer who probably still watches her, that is

>> No.53203474

>>53203424
>underdogs
Well you are right about the "dog" part LMAO

>> No.53203508

I love Kawaii Its a great group with no drama.

>> No.53203533

>>53203424
Corpos board, indieshitter

>> No.53203556

>>53203424
This is a hololive board you retard, of course people are going to defend corps.

>> No.53203587

>>53203424
Huge conglomerate? Who? Kawaii? It is entirely subsidized by Nene's fanbase, with like 5 people as staff.

>> No.53203590

>>53203424
i will always choose JPGODS over western whores

>> No.53203617

>>53203424
I defend Kawaii, I don't defend some whores who just wanted to make Kawaii look bad

>> No.53203633

>>53184564
Foolish normies who want to be a Vtuber and never know about Vtuber drama and too stupid not to research the company they auditioned.

>> No.53203636

>>53202707
>This big snozzed costhot is what cloudtomos are desperately white knighting

>> No.53203785

>>53203424
they don't trust their oshi to self manage

>> No.53203832

>>53186363
>checking /vt/ for research
And I'm the new queen of England

>> No.53203857

>>53203556
All these retards were sucking corpos dick when Hololive blew up in the west. Overtime, more and more indie shitters got rejected from both Holo and Niji so they turned bitter and started antiing anything corpo related. You have no idea how many seething 1 and 2views think that they should have been Gura or Fauna or whoever. Watching all that cash that just falls into corpo girls pockets makes them seethe more and more with every passing day.

>> No.53203901

>>53186363
Lol

>> No.53203927

>>53203636
I’ll whiteknight that ass until the day I die

>> No.53203957

>>53203301
>Fans who police your every interaction and call you a whore for any perceived slight aren't worth having.
Thanks for proving my point.
>>53203116
>t. coping whorse fan.
Too bad for you archives exists. Just a quick search for "Aletta Alban" and anons do not agree with you.
>>46987516
>>51873365
>>49227018
>>49089014
>>48117018
This is as far as your copium go.
>>53202929
What do you call throwing a donothon followed by leaving the corpo for no reason with all her genmates for?

Fucking Whorse fans are worse than fandeads. Improve yourselves.

>> No.53204057

>>53203590
but the only jp in kawaii is a professional coswhore

>> No.53204115

>>53203636
That's what the bag is for. have you seen that body?

>> No.53204133

>>53187243
>Don't base your company in Japan, base it in the US, a place where woke cunt can ruin your career by spreading lies about you!

>> No.53204136

>>53191505
She made a new character then asked for money for donations to fix her vocal chords then quit.

>> No.53204153

>>53204057
not japanese

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>>53203957
>they just left for no reason. trust us guys

>> No.53204211

>Only remotely successful talent left is desperate enough to graduation bait just to get a few more views
Fucking GRIM.

>> No.53204218

>>53203424
>Kawaii
>huge conglomerate

You're retarded.

>> No.53204248

>>53188071
To be fair the moment you join small corpo your chance to join Holo tend to get lower.

>> No.53204322

>>53182976
VOMS is the definition of pristine perfect small corpo. Just chilling in the corner. All the dramas were external attacks.

>> No.53204357

>>53203957
Calm down Nene, one day you will make money during donothon as much as Aletta. Or you won't lol

>> No.53204374 [DELETED] 

>>53203957
So true sis. I'm sure every vtuber out there is just dying to have you and people like you in their fanbase. Most certainly your behavior didn't negatively contribute to Kawaii's image at all.

>> No.53204406

>>53204218
Hey, 5 staff members + Koshita is obviously a huge corpo. lol And tgey are all EEEEEEEEEVIL btw. Even Kaolin and Furi chan, the sweetest girls ever.

>> No.53204477

>>53204115
It's really eye opening. That face tells you why she's a vtuber and that ass tells you where she got her horrible personality from

>> No.53204504

>>53203857
It just shows that Holo made the right decision not to accept those menhera.
Meanwhile true dedicated people will try and try again. Just like Lui trying 5 times.

>> No.53204512

Peak bootlicking.
Once again Kawaiifags prove themselves to be on the same level as nijisisters.

>> No.53204547

>>53204136
Didn't she have cancer?

>> No.53204563

>>53199388
>sava and miryu are evil whores
They are independent women who can choose for themselves and pull out of toxic situations when needed.
>they dragged aletta down with them
>peony followed aletta
This is probably true. But the fact that Aletta decided to take the F in order to stay with her friends show how little that "Company" is actually present for their talents.

>> No.53204611

>>53204563
Sava was a know scam artist even before she joined kawaii. But nice try.

>> No.53204647

>>53202520
>>53204357
>Cvcked Fan 1 disagreeing with cucked fan 2.
I thought it was the same fans?
>>53204187
>S-she threw a donothon and left for a good reason, I swear!

>> No.53204677

>>53204477
>and that ass tells you where she got her horrible personality from
?????

>> No.53204693

>>53204512
>NOOOOOOO YOU SHOULD JUST LET ME ANTI YOUR TALENTS AND CREATE BASELESS RRATS THAT BRING THE GIRLS REPUTATION DOWN!!!!

>> No.53204724

>>53203432
That was funny. I laughed. Nobody graduated if they never existed.

>> No.53204742

>>53182643
It's not that *no one* applied, fucking WACTOR still gets applicants, it's that they didn't get the quality of people they were hoping for. That's understandable since people are holding out for Phase or Idol spots, or taking a longer shot on Niji EN theoretical female wave (9?) or Holo EN3. EN pool is kinda dry, with a lot of companies simply resorting to recruiting semi-qualified ESL foreigners.

>> No.53204785

>>53204647
Yeah she didn't want to pimped out to you discord faggot kek

>> No.53204864

>>53204693
The rrats would be far less serious if they were even remotely competent.

>> No.53204894

>>53204742
>Phase
They used to be cute and based before PIPKIN sold out to the chinese. Now all of their viewers turn into skirt-wearing bussybois as part of Phase Connect's Neo Bussification Project at the beheast of Xalabussy. I called him out and got banned from all of PC.

>> No.53204928

>>53203239
Qrd on menace?

>> No.53204945

>>53204785
>>53204512

>> No.53204985

>>53204677
women with attractive bodies do not develop attractive personalities case and point being Nene who has to kayfabe an uwu baby talk gfe personality to avoid her audience seeing she's a costhot with a haunted womb

>> No.53204997

>>53204894
You probably got banned due to being a buzzword spouting weirdo.

>> No.53205010

>>53203424
Unironically because this board is full of redditors who tie their identity to BRAND.

Ironically, they claim it's actually 'red dit' to shit on corporations, when the opposoite is true.

>> No.53205032

>>53204693
nta, but if you don't like getting stuck with a shit reputation, maybe don't try to lose more than half you talents and don't anti the ones who left. What goes around, comes around.
Or just continue acting like your shit doesn't stink, lmao, I'm sure your next gen application is going great and hundreds of hopefuls are just knocking at your door

>> No.53205038

>>53182953
officially listed as graduations, only oceane was fired.

>> No.53205071

>>53199326
Niji EN only did it for Ziaon. Kawaii already did this with Neena well before XSoliel. Then Oceane, then the rest of gen 3. Still not a good look for Niji EN, but Kawaii is significantly more consistent with this.

>> No.53205106 [DELETED] 

>>53190957
This is one of the funniest things ive read when it comes to fanbases. I assume they were seaniggers otherwise I can't even begin to comprehend their thought process.

>> No.53205117

>>53202336
I'm horsebando defending kawaii here. Don't mistake it for supporting /pkg/ these girls deserve better than you bitter brown AI-slop addicted coomers who anti'd Aletta so hard you put chinese paid brigades to shame.
Kill yourself

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>>53204611
My rrat
>Sava was in talks with IdolEN to join their gen2 with Menace and Chips
>she wanted to leave Kawaii and threw a tantrum to get herself fired
>the other girls took her seriously and went on strike to support her
>they decided to leave together and became an indie group
>now Sava can't leave the other girls behind without looking like an asshole
>Gen2 for Idol happens, with her CL friends but not her

>> No.53205345

>>53202336
Alvin is chained up to some Niji KR chick I thought. Dunking on some nerds in chat is alright for him, but he requires someone that speaks Japanese now since he grinded the FUCK out of it now.

>> No.53205395

>>53205145
Gen 3 in six~ten months.

>> No.53205452

>>53205117
>>53203957
Already debunked by archives, anon. The Kawaii Gen 3 reputation is common knowledge through the board. No level of copium will make that disappear, just accept it. I have nothing against the other gens, it's just this one that was a rotten apple. Admit it.

>> No.53205463

>>53205071
>exposing a doxxer is "slander"

>> No.53205510

>/pkg/fags
>EVIL WHORES
>/pkg/ ratts from those with a gen 3 oshi
>said it aint so guys theres no way my oshi could just NOT LIKE KAWAII and want leave?! There has to be an evil mastermind that groomed her
>/same/fags
>My oshi keeps all her donos and doesn't have to deal with japanese permissions and booth autism. This is the best thing ever

>> No.53205542

>>53205071
>Neena
I can't believe I believed Kawaii and dropped her. I was a fool.

>> No.53205577

>>53205145
Not a very good rrat 2bdesu. If Sava really was so Savvy (kekkle) she wouldn't have cared and would have left them behind regardless. Before PK got absolutely assfucked, Savant could get up to 300 CCV. Which isn't quite same as IdolEN which is averaging something like 400, but it should be obvious that PK was sizing up to be something good.

The one that makes the most sense is the distaste for the fact that girls like sava and aletta were being treated as stinky kouhais to nene despite growing rapidly and were previously ignored when voicing complaints over oceane's sketchier behaviors, which were only taken seriously when nene started to complain too. In the end the company favored the members who joined 2 years ago too much over gen 3.

>> No.53205698

>>53205577
go to sleep menace, you have to stream

>> No.53205718

>>53205577
More like, Menace tricked Sava into thinking she had a chance in Idol when she had no chance in hell.

>> No.53205797

>>53205452
quick run through archives shows her member post where she admited to be a virgin and was never even close to dating a man, reaction to her stream where she apologized and cried for 30 minutes and the thread that goslinged hard as fuck. You're a parasite on kawaii. Kill urself

>> No.53205812

>>53204742
Well, at some point they'll either have to lower their standards, take the "best of the rest", or just drop the whole new gen application altogether if they can't find enough people who meet their "standards".

Anyone who's actually a Hololive-tier potential talent (or hell, even "just" an Idol- or Phase-tier talent, seeing as those companies are now comfortably running circles over Kawaii) has little to gain from or incentive to join Kawaii, what can they offer them? Even just a cursory web search brings up the amounts of discouraging drama, and hey, even if the cucks are right and the company isn't to blame and it's all just those evil ex-talent whores who're at fault, how's a new applicant supposed to know this? It all just looks like a red flag mess from the outside and most potential applicants probably just won't bother researching any further after that.

Plus besides a few standout talents (well, now just Nene, after Aletta and Oceane left), most of the talents are treading water in the around-100-viewers no man's land with no improvement in sight. So you can't even entice people with the promise of an assured significant corpo buff for joining. And after that you have to deal with the buerocracy and permissions autism that comes with Kawaii being a japanese company. You can deal with jp autism when you're in Hololive and make a six-figgy income that compensates you for putting up with some bullshit, but for a minnow like Kawaii it's just not worth it and talents would rather go to more western companies like Idol or Phase.

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>>53205797
>where she admited to be a virgin and was never even close to dating a man.

>> No.53206035

>>53204742
Yeah I bet their contract must be fucking brutal now after all the shit they went through.

>> No.53206055

>>53203106
Lumi will destroy this bitch again lmao

>> No.53206099

>>53205577
>were previously ignored when voicing complaints over oceane's sketchier behaviors, which were only taken seriously when nene started to complain too
This. Too expensive to sue from outside of japan. Basically confirmed rrat. If you know you know

>> No.53206119

>>53203424
>kawaii
>massive corporation
lmao

>> No.53206205

>>53206099
well then they can just break the NDA and spill the beans since Kawaii won't have the money to sue them from Japan

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>>53205916
Exactly. Sorry to ruin your cuck fantasy.
She was about to do her doctorate in computer science and AI while working 2 jobs AND doing gamedev for fun. You can't even comprehend a person like her with your standards.
>she exactly explained the nijishart situation step-by-step and deeply apologized, and completely accepted why fans disliked it
>donothon was refunded
so your "scam" comment is completely baseless even on this ground
>The Kawaii Gen 3 reputation is common knowledge through the board
Imagine thinking what vteddit thinks. Really shows what kind of mongoloid is entertaining me right now

>> No.53206442

>>53206253
>Aletta white knights somehow more pathetic than Nene white knights
Proves you can take the Kawaii out of the girl but the fanbase still be faggots.

>> No.53206538

>>53204693
>A THREAD IS ANTING BY OSHI
>I SHOULD KEEP BUMPING IT INSTEAD OF LETTING IT DIE

>> No.53206559

>>53206253
>working 2 jobs
Milking me dry was one of her jobs btw

>> No.53206594

>>53206205
Unlike kawaii and /pkg/ fags they're mature enough to just want to move on rather fling shit in a never ending woman moment. Production Kawaii is blessed they have Charlotte Suzu to keep their gaggle of angry bimbos, management included, from going full menhera

>> No.53206598

>>53206442
whorse fanbase was the faggiest, they were cloudtomos but also 100% discordtroons. Proud to have served as a whorse anti when she was shitting up the place, would do it again.

>> No.53206766

I'm honestly glad she graduated. /pkg/ was the worst 3rd world general I've ever used

>> No.53206910

>>53206766
I used to think /ppg/ was the worst but at least they didn't hate their girls on a schedule

>> No.53206963

>>53206910
what? we hate Nia and Yura on repeat all day

>> No.53206969

>>53200567
>So many talented indies out there
Yet I've never seen people talk about these supposedly talented indies huh it's like there's actually none to begin with

>> No.53207025

>>53206910
/hololive/ was edgy but the hate and narratives and banter. /pkg/ was sickening and you couldn't banter with these ESL

>> No.53207082

>>53207025(me)
>hate and narratives was banter*

>> No.53207215

>>53206253
>Imagine thinking what vteddit thinks.
t. confirmed Discord trannie.
>so your "scam" comment is completely baseless even on this ground
>>47852913
Kawaii refunded it, not Aletta. Meaning they still had to deal with the Youtube cut, resulting in a loss.
>She was about to do her doctorate in computer science and AI while working 2 jobs AND doing gamedev for fun. You can't even comprehend a person like her with your standards.
This is pure copium.

>> No.53207341

>>53206963
Yura redeemed herself. She's 1 year clean of skipping half her streams for jp male vtuber minecraft ark rust gangbangs
Please don't hate my clubbing gigastacy oshi that pretends to like gundam and makes sure to remind everyone she totally single

>> No.53207428

>>53206205
too expensive for an indie, not for a company

>> No.53207570

>>53205510
Unironically this. They can stream whatever games they want, and I’m gonna get my merch soon, it’s a win-win situation for everyone involved.

>> No.53207901

>>53207025
I thought the Brazilians and their neighbors were good at banter. Is /pkg/ SEA? Why do they not understand banter? Why are SEA the rudest race on the internet as proven by scientific studies? How can 2 cultures of browns be so different?

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>>53207215
are you trying to communicate or just calling me bad words.
Not a single slander that you mongolopid apes spammed about Aletta 24/7 in every fucking thread, every day, has had recepits and she deeply apologized for saying hi to that one nijifaggot. She even described every single little thing she did and with whom she went, where she went, and happily talked about everything. She's still the most dedicated GFE in the west and you /pkg/-infesting faggots ruined it because you're cucks who can't stop fantasising about being cucked 24/7
Even Rushia has never gone this far and /pkg/ mmongoloids ruined it.
I'm not a discordfag even so your insult doesn't work

>> No.53208052

>>53207989
>the most dedicated GFE in the west
Why do you make her sound like a cowboy?

>> No.53208100

>>53207989
>the most dedicated GFE in the west
If this is true, the west really has fallen...

>> No.53208393

>>53207989
>I'm not a discordfag
>>53206253
>Imagine thinking what vteddit thinks
??
>has had recepits and she deeply apologized for saying hi to that one nijifaggot.
Proof next thread.
>Even Rushia has never gone this far
That's something we both agree.

>> No.53208396

>>53207989
Aletta never did GFE

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