/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53171712
>stifling your competition before they get the chance to expand?
You are trying for any angle that might stick but none of them land.
Mythic can't "stifle" Hololive before they get the chance to expand because they already expanded, and in a direction that doesn't allow for Mythic to even compete with them, let alone stifle.

Hololive kaigai strategy clearly hinges on
>taking japanese culture abroad, and attracting foreign eyes to Japan
hence the japanese consulate @ the Anime Expo, Miko, Gura and Mori being Tokyo ambassadors, Hololive airlines and Holomeet, all of their "outreach" is not to take over whatever local markets they reach to but to push japanese culture and japanese influence abroad.

It is not that Hololive is not in the same market as the North American (and western) vtubers, indie or corpos. They're not even in the same line of business.

Chu~

total homo destruction

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>53171894
Cheers, anons, to the dissolution of HomoEN

Homoreddit status?

>>53171750
No shit what else is there for her to play? No Minecraft, no Rust, no FOTM
She is basically walking with both her leg chopped atm

>>53171948
Seething and coping

>>53171894
Recent clip numbers
>>53168636
>>53168700
>>53168755
>>53168806
>>53168857

>>53171910
>not even in the same line of business
>when Gura already had a Taco Bell sponsorship
Come on anon you're just twisting yourself up.

>The entire internet collectively laugh at that one Thai chuuba concert
Holy shit fucking merciless, I have never seen a Vtuber being paraded around as a laughing stock like this before, at least not to this level

>>53172000
Literally what?

>JULY 2023 GOLDS
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 209,736 - Koshien Draft
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 75,828 - Birthday Totsumachi
3) Leos (Nijisanji) - 69,970 - Koshien Practice
4) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 49,699 - Koshien Recap
5) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 116,661 - Koshien Practice
6) Lize (Nijisanji) - 111,373 - Koshien Practice
7) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 82,832 - Koshien Practice
8) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 82,413 - Koshien Practice
9) Kaede (Nijisanji) - 82,483 - Koshien Practice

>PER COMPANY
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Shiina
1x: Ibrahim, Kaede, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
140x: Hololive
34x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
47x: Pekora
18x: Miko
15x: Marine
8x: Subaru
6x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Aqua, Hal
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Fubuki, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Shiina, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ibrahim, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro

>>53168508
[Resale] hololive Summer 2023 Merchandise Vol.1
Tokino Sora 161 $11.00 $1,771.00
Robocosan 94 $11.00 $1,034.00
AZKi 291 $11.00 $3,201.00
Sakura Miko 1082 $11.00 $11,902.00
Hoshimachi Suisei 2043 $11.00 $22,473.00
Yozora Mel 50 $11.00 $550.00
Aki Rosenthal 40 $11.00 $440.00
Akai Haato 53 $11.00 $583.00
Shirakami Fubuki 699 $11.00 $7,689.00
Natsuiro Matsuri 103 $11.00 $1,133.00
Minato Aqua 553 $11.00 $6,083.00
Murasaki Shion 361 $11.00 $3,971.00
Nakiri Ayame 427 $11.00 $4,697.00
Yuzuki Choco 72 $11.00 $792.00
Oozora Subaru 320 $11.00 $3,520.00
Ookami Mio 387 $11.00 $4,257.00
Nekomata Okayu 307 $11.00 $3,377.00
Inugami Korone 299 $11.00 $3,289.00
Usada Pekora 485 $11.00 $5,335.00
Shiranui Flare 269 $11.00 $2,959.00
Shirogane Noel 268 $11.00 $2,948.00
Houshou Marine 539 $11.00 $5,929.00
Amane Kanata 395 $11.00 $4,345.00
Tsunomaki Watame 232 $11.00 $2,552.00
Tokoyami Towa 545 $11.00 $5,995.00
Himemori Luna 100 $11.00 $1,100.00
Yukihana Lamy 404 $11.00 $4,444.00
Momosuzu Nene 200 $11.00 $2,200.00
Shishiro Botan 263 $11.00 $2,893.00
Omaru Polka 192 $11.00 $2,112.00
La+ Darknesss 357 $11.00 $3,927.00
Takane Lui 249 $11.00 $2,739.00
Hakui Koyori 515 $11.00 $5,665.00
Sakamata Chloe 574 $11.00 $6,314.00
Kazama Iroha 792 $11.00 $8,712.00
Anya Melfissa 30 $11.00 $330.00
Vestia Zeta 89 $11.00 $979.00
Kaela Kovalskia 43 $11.00 $473.00
Swim Ring Drink Holder Sunshine ver. 563 $11.00 $6,193.00
Swim Ring Drink Holder Night ver. 231 $11.00 $2,541.00
Random Acrylic Name Keychain (Gen 0+Gen 1+Gen 2+Gamers) 3438 $4.00 $13,752.00
Random Acrylic Name Keychain (Gen 3+Gen 4+Gen 5+holoX) 2441 $4.00 $9,764.00
Random Acrylic Name Keychain (ID+EN) 311 $4.00 $1,244.00
$186,207.00

>>53172000
Just need a similar thing to happen to both Nijihomos and Tempiss and we're golden.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *
>7/9 DAILY TALLY
14,408: Gura (Hololive)
8,421: Pomu (Nijisanji)
6,312: IRyS (Hololive)
6,286: Vox (Nijisanji)
6,174: Ina (Hololive)
5,516: Luca (Nijisanji)
5,241: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,029: Elira (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 2023
1) Vesper (Holostars) - 21,225 - Redesign Reveal
2) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 9,207 - Karaoke
3) Hololive English (Hololive) - 32,795 - Connect the World
4) Mumei (Hololive) - 10,693 - Zatsudan
5) Gura (Hololive) - 20,073 - Zatsudan (w/ Amelia)
6) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,751 - Birthday Stream
7) Nina (Nijisanji) - 33,766 - Graduation Stream
8) Nina (Nijisanji) - 50,496 - Graduation Part 2
9) Gura (Hololive) - 14,408 - Peppa Pig

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
2x: Gura, Nina
1x: Hololive English, Kiara, Mumei, Vesper, Vezalius

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
11p: Nina
10p: Gura
7p: Fauna
6p: Kiara
5p: Baelz, Hololive English, Mumei, Vesper, Vezalius
4p: IRyS
3p: Ina, Kronii, Luca, Mori, Pomu
1p: Millie, Mysta, Shu

>I do not watch them
EVERY TIME. WHY ARE THE HOMOBEGGARS NEVER WATCHING THEIR STREAMS?

>>53171869
nice shitpost retard, most of them are celebrating and the rest of them don't care about it

>>53172000
That could have been the Nijigirl concert being laughed at but no one even recorded that.

>>53172022
Literally every meme/gimmick/popular Twitter account post meme laughing at "That one Vtuber concert" like wtf

>>53171940

>>53172000
And you have other vtubers also making fun of it. The entire thing is so fucking ridiculous and I feel bad for that dude who's done literally nothing wrong

The one thing that is the weirdest of these koshien runs is the weird stability of the numbers, sometimes forming plateaus for minutes and sticking to a 100CCV range for the duration

>>53171988
The sheer fact that Hololive is YouTube based while Mythic is Twitch based practically means their in already separate markets.

What is Yagoo thinking right now?

>>53172060
Bro don't bring them so close to home, if they laugh at tempus what's stopping then from laughing at your oshi?

>>53172074
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
138x: Hololive
48x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
21x: Fauna
19x: Mori
14x: Gura, IRyS, Mumei
12x: Baelz, Ina
11x: Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Nina, Pomu
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Ren, Yu
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
207p: Fauna
142p: Ina, Mori
128p: IRyS
119p: Mumei
111p: Baelz
91p: Kronii
79p: Amelia, Kiara
74p: Vox
70p: Gura
57p: Mysta
50p: Luca
34p: Shu
31p: Selen
24p: Nina
20p: Pomu
19p: Ike
15p: Enna
14p: Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Millie, Yu
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Vezalius
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Roca
4p: Magni, Vantacrow
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

my favorite council moment was seeing them all together on stage during 4th fes.
how bout you, /#/?

>>53172088
You say that like any of us even use twitter other than to keep up with holonews

>>53172087
Actually they have one coming in Malaysia, with their L2D, and $80 price tag.

>>53172088
>>53172101
If DaCapo is smart he'll take advantage of the widespread infamy and get an incline out of it

>>53172000
Vtuber concerts really are go 3D or go home.

>>53172079
Cause they are boring and trash

>>53172144
He isnt and pulled the racism card.

>>53172000
Its just an in thing to do since it went viral. None of these people give an actual shit it just gets them brownie points with eachother until they find the next thing to dig at.

>>53172109
Wondering why the fuck he didn't just debut an EN3 last year.

Mental illness

>>53172103
Don't question the 20 min peak of Nijibots.

>>53172199
He didn't pull the racism card though, the fuck are you smoking

>>53172112
>what's stopping then from laughing at your oshi?
If you're only looking at Twitter they've been laughing at vtubers for like 2 years now.

>>53172104
Hololive is so influential that they can bleed over into other areas without even directly aiming for them. Besides, i's not like there's never been Asian entertainment crossing over into somewhat mainstream Western territory despite not actively pandering to that demographic. See: Hatsune Miku appearing on Letterman, Kpop in general.

>>53172199
He did not, some other nigger tried to dunk on him, then got blowback and pulled the racism card

>>53172000
Literally who
>Thai
sounds like he deserves it though

To be fair the first Vesper suspension gave him one of his biggest solo streams ever. Maybe he's trying another one with the redesign buff. Easy 100k

>>53172109
he will debut en3 to make people forget about tempiss

>>53172079
one containment breaker mention something about this too and shadynecro went nuclear kek. i think deep down they knew leddit points are artificial from their discord group thats why the keep begging holofans to watch their bois

>>53172000
The worse part is that other vtubers and even fans of other vtubers are shitting on it, i saw holofags unironically compare them to holoconcerts these people can't even defend there hobbies kind of pethetic.

EN3 IS REAL

>Niji graduates
>Niji Black company!!!
>Holo graduates
>Talent bad
Holo good Niji Bad

>Nijifan berates the graduated talent
>Nijifan bad!!!
>Holofan berates the graduated talent
>Holofan based based based!!!
Nice double standard here

>>53172199
Nah, that's the Kenji guy.

>>53172103
>another 82k/83k peak
That's extremely consistent, is this the 4th one in a row falling in that range?

>>53172022
here everything you need to know
>>53146904

>>53172199
Idiot, that was that Kenji retard who pulled the race card cause he was being attacked for making fun of the thai dude while also being a vtuber

>>53172245
Gen 6 are finally getting their casual outfits.

>>53172278
And the next thing you'll say is "Rushia was fired because she had a boyfriend".

honestly sometimes i think you guys took this thread a bit too seriously

>>53172283
Yep. Assuming no surprises, the last 4 days will have gold at a 600 CCV max distance between them
>7) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 82,832 - Koshien Practice
>8) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 82,413 - Koshien Practice
>9) Kaede (Nijisanji) - 82,483 - Koshien Practice
>10) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 83,096 - Koshien Practice

>>53172227
Yeah but not on this level anon
The point be careful with the forces you play with and make sure you don't end up shooting yourself in the foot. Don't be like the retarded chinks who called the CCP online censorship bereau because they got pissed that someone else is pushing another ship and ended up getting the whole forum nuked

>>53172278
if you put a gun to yagoo's nuts and pull the trigger you will hit the mouths of at least half the people ITT

>>53172330
Gee you think?

>>53172000
And you keep raising this here to... get our esteemed posters to laugh at him too?

>>53172030
>PER COMPANY
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Hololive
Heh

>>53172342
Man, this reminds me of the consistent Salami bots

>>53172154
https://streamable.com/wjts7w

>>53172342
Nothing suspicious here people, please leave the area!

>>53172343
>stop laughing
>it’s NOT FUNNY

>>53172366
Because it's the Yagoo dicksuckers who want the homos gone, right?

>>53172342
Can someone compare their graphs?

>>53172342
I-ITS JUST THE SAME AMOUNT OF NORMIES RILIGIOUSLY FOLLOWING THE EVENT YEAH

>>53172342
I don't think it was anywhere near being this consistent last year... I'm not one to jump to the bots conclusion but it certainly looks weird to me.

>>53172428
Old model Suisei my beloved...

>>53172343
>not on this level
Nah, it already happened a couple times. Just that since Holomems have big followings, fans simply drowned them through positive messages.
This Thai dude though doesn't have enough fans to defend him which is why the harrassment looks pretty one-sided.

>>53172342
Only the most authentic, human audiences

>>53172109
Moom cute

To be fair Vesper literally talked on debut about having a mental breakdown and leaving his comfy overpaid IT job. That was literally his biggest accomplishment. Are you surprised he'd do that again?

>>53172428
From this
To this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTYbI5wXxw

On an unrelated note, Bae's music has literally not helped Bae at all, nor did the tourney despite Bae being the one who prepped most of it. Fauna is widening the gap even further. Again. People seem to be listening it to it though because her views are actually going up, just seems to not be enough for people to sub.

>Debut EN3 but
>Noir and Vesper graduated
Are you happy Holobronies?

>>53172342
>>53172430
>>53172283
After trying to make sense of it I came to the conclusion
It’s so consistent because all of the captain barely have any of their own fanbase to add on top of baseball tourist in the first place. It’s probably the same 80k baseball tourist watching these stream

>>53172470
>Can someone compare their graphs?
They're not really similar, just "capped" at the same ceiling, it seems

how could people make fun of vtubers but then go grab their miku plushie and gush at how she's dancing on stage?
will always be strange to me.

>>53172342
lol

>>53172503
I mean it also doesn't help with how people are framing the guy's concert.

Big mooners

What do we know so far?

The way Cover is turning the homo suspension into a stealth suspension by vaguely saying their streaming activities will be stopped, is fucking disgusting.
Even when they get suspended Cover still protects them and shills for them.

>>53172567
Why are Selenposters the shittiest people in existence

>>53172584
I'm pretty sure the Vocaloid fans aren't the ones making one of Vtuber concerts and if they are their just making fun of the Dacapo guy because he's just using his Live2D for his performance.

>>53172573
I thought of that but it doesn't really make sense either. Yashiro's median is 10k, Ibrahim is 8k, Shiina is 6k and Kaede is 2k.

>>53172567
>Noir and Vesper

Who said Pekora room beating Suisei earlier? The waiting room indicate a 26-27k stream, no way Suisei is that low

>>53172651
Beryl my beloved

>>53172662
It’s technically not a suspension if their contract ran out

>>53172503
This.
Most of the times, when Twittards tried to stir shit with Holomems, fans just went 'don't engage and let's just show our support for the girls'. It has been proven again and again that most vitriol would simply fade into the wind when you just ignore them.

>>53172662
>stealth suspension
This ain't nijisanji bro

Interesting to see all the cope from other communities regarding this issue. Some really believe it’s some stupid medical or technical problem. They refuse to believe that they were suspended. I guess the only way to pop these numbheads out of their delusion is if their roommates start posting.

>>53172651

>>53171926
thank you Mori, I didn't knew this was the reason you were a homocolllaber

>>53172567
best case scenario ban evader-chama

>>53172686
L2d of the new shirt (Mayo's) has some awful rigging in the chest area

>>53172808
They better wish those two were merely suspended. The alternatives are dead/missing/trying to get fired instead of breaking the contract on their end

So, the current rrat is Vesper and Magni is late in signing an extension to their contract which means at this moment, they aren't really cover talents until cover decides it so or until the expiry response date.

>>53172651
Was EN3 laughing at tempus all along? Will they be the saviors of this land?

>>53172808
The funniest part is some thread made in this very catalog, with something like
>things must be REALLY bad if the **cope** alternative by the fanbase is wishing their favorites got mauled by a bear as the least damaging explanation

>>53171270
>>53171270
mansister..

>>53172841
Misquote

>Baseball win
>Micomet on Suisei channel
>Pekora sub 30k again
What the FUCK is happening to Hololive?

>>53172747
She joining phase anon you got to let her go.

>>53172731
You can't believe anything related to Pekora posted here. You need to doublecheck everything.

>>53172651
Ame is on a break after wednesday

>>53172808
Yeah because this ain't nijisanji bro, if they were suspended they would've come out and said it

>>53172808
>They refuse to believe that they were suspended.
Yeah no shit anon, Cover isn't Anycolor and they already just outright said Vesper got suspended last time so everyone is giving the benefit of the doubt due to their track record unlike Nijisanji.

>>53172573
doesnt make sense retard they dont have the same average

>>53172873
That's even more retarded than the workers strike rrat

just did my archive reps and holy shit Kanzaki Hiro literally just drew Luna in 4 different bodies

>>53172808
They are infact not supended retard

>>53172954
JP account said that.
EN account was silent.
EN management wants suspension to be stealth.

>>53172154
Doing a concert in VRchat is unironically better than using L2D

Didn’t Chinman said he’s going to cram it at the end of the month?
Holy shit imagine 5 straight Toya gold leading to Koshien

>>53172428
SUISEI!!!!!!!!!

>>53172342
I know anykara dont have the most competent people in the market but if you want to use bots at least use your brain before doing it fucking retarded nips

>>53173073
Link?

>>53173086
Isn't Koshien finals near the middle of August?

>>53172808
How the fuck is this cope when this is literally proof of how much the community trusts cover? Would you rather they be like nijifags who constantly question if nijisanji official statements are the truth of if they are giving them the "Covid" explanation again?

>>53173073
JP account hasn't said anything though

>>53173106
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1593882622094032896
>>53173147
I'm talking about previous Vesper suspension.

kek, no a completely unrelated matter, I just figured out why the seemingly unending supply of instagram thots sponsored by Bang Energy drink
>they got sued into bankrupcy by Monster Energy

>Monster filed the lawsuit in Riverside, California in 2018. It accused Bang of touting its product as "nothing short of a miracle drink that delivers benefits and cures that have evaded scientists for decades."
>According to the lawsuit, Bang advertised its "Super Creatine" as being "20 times more effective at reaching the brain than other forms of creatine," and said its energy drink can "reverse mental retardation" and help cure disorders like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's Disease.
>Monster said "Super Creatine" does not contain real creatine or provide the health benefits of creatine.

CREATINE .... NOT EVEN ONCE!

Lain Paterson - 53,116 (Likes 20,722)
Higuchi Kaede - 81,126 (Likes 9,520)

>>53173232
Ayashiiii....

>Gura returns
>the girls start trying again after seeing their numbers collapse
>homos dying
yes, it's all coming together

>>53173120
NTA but yes, and unironically. Corporations SHOULD be sweating bullets at every turn and corner about getting the fandom in a torch+pitchfork mob. I'm not gonna deny that Cover hasn't behaved better than the average soulless corp by a considerable margin, but that doesn't mean they should get a blind pass on anything.
There's never a reason to completely hide why streamers can't stream. The fact that they do IS a red flag, I don't care how "trustworthy" they've appeared to be in the past. Especially since we know how fucking batshit insane the management gets when it comes to cocksucking Tempiss.

>>53173192
Look I know you want them to be suspended but "they are using a different account, therefore they must actually be suspended and cover is lying to us" is a fucking stretch even around here

>>53173073
>JP account said that.
Has it ever occurred to you that most people outside here consider the twitter accounts as 1 entity? As long as it's coming from an official Cover account no one's gonna really bat an eye unless it's here because we actually notice the homo bias.

>>53173302
There's no reason to believe they're hiding anything in particular here either, unless you're on the side of "my boys never did anything wrong". This could just as easily be EN management getting ghosted by the two and trying to buy time before JP HQ decides what the official stance should be.

>>53172385
Nobody laugh at him though and it been what 5-4 thread already

>>53173302
>There's never a reason to completely hide why streamers can't stream. The fact that they do IS a red flag
I agree. At very least it shows lack of professionalism.
>such and such won't be able to stream due to an ongoing contractual dispute
Anything other than that is just obfuscating and delaying

>>53172914
the tourist economy is wild

Oh Miko share manager with Noel

>>53173302
Anon it might be something that the talent themselves don't want to discuss or like others said maybe an internal investigation or contract things, if they said it's a suspension and not give any reason them that's a problem, this is more similar to there silence on gura not streaming if anything.

>Shit on some sisters in another thread
>Play a game for a while
>Come back to the thread
>"Homo machine's broke"
THE SWEETEST TASTE

>>53173368
The wording of the tweet is suspicious as fuck. They didn't say they won't be streaming for a while, they said their streaming activities "will be stopped" for a while, meaning Cover is the one making them stop.
And I do think we are owed a reason. They've been transparent with every other thing previous but now all of a sudden they're employing Nijisanji-levels of obfuscation? Just reeks of "protecting muh bOiZ" by Omegatroon or someone like him.

>>53172573
>baseball tourist
you mean these ones?

>>53173302
They don't get a blind pass on everything, this is literally how trust works. This is exactly why nijisanji doing the stealth suspension stuff was fucking retarded, because it made the audience paranoid and suspicious about every word that anycolor puts out. Meanwhile cover can put out a statement like that and their fans are more willing to trust them because of their record in the past.

>>53173358
It's the conflict about how to handle those things between EN management and higher ups.
This is middle ground.
>>53173360
Yes. I know most people are retards that believe that. Which is why it's gonna work.

>>53173393
>ongoing contractual dispute
draws battle lines between those who think the company is in the right and those who think the streamers are in the right, would be a stupid move unless they plan on terminating the streamers

>>53173368
They need to make some statement as to why those two aren’t gonna stream for the next two weeks minimum, ESPECIALLY since their anniversary is coming up. I’m still on the thought that it’s contract related and they’re still figuring out what to.

>>53172103
Told you it's botted but you guys don't want to believe it

>checking other threads
damn, so it's true that the only ones who care about the bois are homobeggars and clipfags aside from the tempussisters

[Sad News] The chick that went from 9 CCV to 2k by being matched with Aqua on APEX (and that netted some 12k subs out of the affair is back at 2 views range
It turns out merely getting exposure is not enough to impart a big audience on a chuuba, she would have to fight to keep them

>>53173520
Then why in the hell do you find it surprising that nobody is willing to entertain you and your "they are actually suspended" rrat?

>>53172342
kek weird audience who will all come at the same amount to watch koshien, but never stays for anything else, nor comment about it anywhere online

>>53173568
>went from 9 CCV to 33
Seems like a big multiplication to me

>>53173568
that was obvious, but at least she has more than 6 viewers

>>53173368
>getting ghosted by the two
didn't vesper get suspended for conflicts with management? wtf is this cope lol

>Pekora spamming debuff games
One good thing about the Nijibots is that Pekora gave up tryharding and is just playing games that she enjoy

>>53173568
Just do it as a % increase

>>53173419
so where are the tourist for hololive if anons in this thread say hololive is more popular than nijisanji?

>>53173568
What about Asmongold's chuuba?

>>53172129
MoRyS Kaibutsu or Luna’s solo

Guys, what's the two problems right now that aren't gonna be around in 2023? Vesper and Magni.

Vesper and Magni have always given me the impression they think they're hot shit and can tell cover to fuck off. They must think they're some first army tier assets

WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL HOLOBLOKES!?!?
>FEAR MY POWER YET?!
Ready to kneel to Milliemage? How do you like her power now, huh? Huh?

>>53173610
The same cope as >>53172808 coming here to cry that nobody is buying the narrative he's selling I guess

Both of them LITERALLY just had a redesign. Seems too much of a coincidence. I think they expected that shit to boost their numbers and decided to jump out when realizing it did nothing.

>>53173675
BASED
BASED
BASED

>>53173682
We don't care about Tempus

>>53173445
They share manager with one other Holo whom I forgot. (Mio?) I wonder how much that mane chan is earning

>>53173576
>rrat
Still coping sister?

>>53173682
Based Milliemage saving EN Vtubing yet again

Both magni and vesper missed their collab and their scheduled streams and they didn't explain themselves and ghosted everyone so management have to step in. Take other girls for example, they either don't commit to a schedule or will explain why they miss a stream. My rrat is magni and vesper got into a fight and is ghosting everyone.

>>53173682
THANK YOU MILLIEMAGE!

>>53172000
>, I have never seen a Vtuber being paraded around as a laughing stock like this before
You forgot about the Sinder bad singing incident

>>53173688
If I were Cover, I'd be livid if they decided to quit after all that

>>53173361
pakotako...

>>53173682
>Nina also graduated
Still prone to friendly fire, huh?

>>53173682
Aren't you also stealth suspended Millie?

>>53173488
>they said their streaming activities "will be stopped" for a while
They actually said all activities would be stopped. Meaning they're not even doing non-streaming work. All activities can also be taken to mean "all activities relating to the vtuber, even from management's end" which implies management can't work on any projects with those two even if they wanted to, aka they're likely getting ghosted.
>>53173610
That one came down directly from JP management with an official tweet from the Cover Corp account, the same way they do every serious business such as termination. Thinking that a tweet from the holoEN account has anywhere near the same status is a cope. HQ hasn't decided on what to do to the two homos yet, whether it's a suspension or otherwise.

>>53173780
The pako curse...

>>53173758
graduations soon

>>53173682
Millie mage feel free to unleash all your power on homos, they have no sorceror of their own

>>53173682
MILLIEMAGE I FUCKING KNEEL
SAVIOUR OF HOLOLIVE

>>53173682
dont claim ownership of other mages work. You wouldnt want to get another stealth suspension, would ya millie?

Holy FUCK are you people daft. Contract negotiations would've happened at the very LEAST a month ago. It is too close to their anniversary for them to be doing it NOW. They would've already announced their graduation by now if it was contract negotiations because their contract would be up. Sana didn't even get to see her first anniversary.

>>53173682
Noooooo aha Milliemage please don't target the homos, the blue fag is about to host his NTRcast too. I hope nothing bad happens to him...

>>53172031
Well it really does seem like Gura had 1500-2k initial stock. Huge gap from the rest of EN

JP7 soon?

>>53173837
Gee anon what about this thread made you suspect that anyone here has above room temperature iq?

>>53173837
their activity stopped for a while to check if they broke any NDA

>>53173682
Thanks Millie.

>>53173837
Yeah it's not contract negotiations, it's them trying to get themselves fired so they can cry about the big bad corpo on their roommate accounts.

>>53173682
Pathetic flip fuck trying to claim ownership of Watamage's work.

USAKEN LOVE !

>>53173878
Holoearth and Holoplus staff

[Miko news] Her manager gave her a cream scone.

>>53173576
>Then why in the hell do you find it surprising that nobody is willing to entertain you and your "they are actually suspended" rrat?
I'm willing to entertain that rrat.

>>53173758
Mate, "ghosting" in this case a word millenials and zoomers made up as an euphemism for something known as "job abandonment" and it is usually grounds for immediate dismissal
>after some due diligence

Maybe what's seen now is exactly that due diligence, the steps before sacking someone for being a no show

Nobody here actually believes that the two homos fucking off would bring back the old viewers who supposedly left because of male collabs, right?

>>53173936
I hate that they nerfed mooona's moonas in this

>>53172103
>Weird stability of the numbers
Ina's graph's must be botted then

Vesper tried hunting a brown bear using spear, an old Garand with 7 bullets and some rope, now he's missing. Magni is the closest to Vesper so he went to check on the dude.

They got better offers from kick

>>53173798
Sounds like a contract issue. Probably they aren't happy with some terms in their contract renewal?

>>53173949
I can give her a better cream scone iykwim

>>53173895
>their activity stopped for a while to check if they broke any NDA
The bois are harmless how are they going to break NDA. If anything this annoucment is like akai hatao one where they said she won't stream for a while.

By the way, Magni said
>Supposedly
When he talked about the collab with Vesper. He probably knew this would happen

>>53173568
Apex bad simple as

>>53173808
>they have no sorceror of their ow-
JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!

>>53173955
But you're not the guy complaining that anyone who doesn't immediately believe you is coping are you?

>>53173568
Is she entertaining is the question. I watched a 40-50 range 2view scale to 200-250 off 2 good raids in a 2 month timespan with no sign of decay in viewership. Granted this was on twitch

>>53173991
odd loop, please refrain of using haachama

>>53173970
>Ina's graph's must be botted then
Post one of these for comparison

>>53172144
Not how that works retard.

What are the chance that those two retards are in France right now?
I mean, EVERYONE is pulling up over there

Someone post the hacked NijiID SpaceX graph

>>53173962
Vesper has a history and even bragged about doing this at his previous jobs iirc

>>53174040
She's not and she has a mortal (but admirable) sin
>she's half of a married couple vtuber duo

>>53173688
Wrong. It's contract season.
>Don't like position, want more shit for less and want more asskissing, want to be members of HOLOLIVE not Holostars
>Want redesign because you're bitches
>Do a load of roommate shit to set things up for later since you don't care about anyone but yourselves
>Buddy up with the other whiny retard
>Manage to push redesign
>Get it, debut it
>Now tell management they want more shit for less, use the redesign as a sunk cost fallacy since if they graduate now they've just wasted all that money and time
>This is why they didn't announce suspension, termination, etc. This is completely unpredicted
>Management is too much of homo lovers to tell them to fuck off and fire them instantly
>Are now in negotiations and consulting the JP offices on this

>>53173936
Minecraft kensetsu arc is actually the best arc, too bad EN-JP merge ruined it

>>53173758
Even calli got scolded when she abandoned kobo in Minecraft

>>53173229
that's the same company that tried to sue Pokemon for having "Monsters" in their name, so yeah that's just Monster being copyright trolls, but somehow it worked this time.

>>53174111
Contract season would be two months ago anon

>>53173977
There's people saying that they would have renewed their contracts months ago and they may be right. In which case they may simply have gotten a better offer from somewhere else and want to get out of their recently renewed contracts quickly.

>Uuuuuu stay out of my CGDCT walled garden

>>53174123
Nah, in this case they saw a competitor doing something legit illegal and ganked them out of the market and are now in the process of absorbing their assets

>>53173568
Didn't she stream with her bf or something soon after Aqua thing?

>>53174154
Time is wonky in homo land

>>53173936
Leech/niji collabers/malecollabers unit

>March 18 2023 by a chan

>>53174175
See >>53174107, it's her husband and they're a duo.

>>53174111
they sign the contract a one or a few months before they actually debut

>>53174107
Rip oh well she seemed to grab a very very small handful of new viewers i guess.

>>53174154
They ran out the clock and their contract expired which is why they got locked out of everything.

>>53173302
if they really got involved in an accident, it will be easy to triangulate the leads by comparing them with local police cases and that will make them easily doxable, so yeah the reason why Cover is being vague about this is that they don't want to be indirectly involved with the doxing of their own talents.

>>53172549
Oh wow the gap is gonna be 10k soon, that's crazy

>>53173878
Holo ES or Holo KR

>>53172342
One thing to note is not all of these are first streams, shiina was her second

>>53173936
Man Kiara is really ruining the color scheme

Guess the Stars thing is a something burger because two talents won't be streaming for a while. Everything else is just wait and see.
>>53174206
So when the shareholder asked the question about Blue Journey, what do you think Yagoo and the rest of Cover were thinking in the back of their minds.

why does the girls needs a personal manager? Can't they manage their own shit while relegating big events to their managers? It's a waste of resources. The ones who needs them are the ones who streams a lot or goes to big events. If you stream 3-4 times a week, you don't need a manager.

>>53174239
Magni's RM was liking stuff on twitter yesterday at the same time that they have been missing streams for a few days so that's doubtful

I genuinely believe this Magni/Vesper thing is a Cover ploy to try and boost them up with drama numbers like when Vesper got suspended.
I bet they'll announce EN3 > everyone will be excited about the new girls > shortly before their debut they'll bring back Magni and Vesper and try and use that to leech off of EN3's hype.

Is nene gonna be alright?

>OH NO NO NO NO NUMBERBROS
THEY'RE CHARGING A SPIRIT BOMB TO DAB ON US!
>DID WE GET TOO COCKY?!
Truth be told the word "nothingburger" is a little bit of a curse.

>>53174308
Anon? That’s why some of them share manager

>>53174239
>it will be easy to triangulate the leads by comparing them with local police cases
No, no it really won't.

Vesper and Magni have a history of shit talking cover and overestimating their importance. Management may love da boiss as a project but people giving management shit will receive shit in return. God knows what they did this time. We will probably never find out.

>>53174321
your theory sounds too convoluted to be correct

>>53172103
My, my. What do we have here...

>>53174343
hopefully will be a nothingburger, because if its not then vesper is literally gone

>>53174321
That’s stupid because Axel already said those two are gonna miss their anniversary

>>53174308
>why does the girls needs
Here anon, you might want to start from this stream right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kzv6LvGX6Y

>>53173302
>There's never a reason to completely hide why streamers can't stream.
There is, if the reason makes it too easy to track down who the roommate is

>>53170460
>This happens
>All their complaints amount to having to be professional
>Twitchers avoid applying
Good end

>>53173682
Thanks Milliemage I guess?

>>53172662
Wait what happened?

/mans/ are all just coping and having a group cry lol
God I hope it's the real deal this time.

>>53174306
>Shit failed and I shouldn't have hyped it up at fes but damm our investors are full of schizo/fan.

>>53174399
God that's the dream scenario truly

>>53174312
and vesper? they dont need to both have gotten injured, one could be hurt, and the other staying with that guy

>>53174342
Which holos are known to share managers?

>>53174378
>because if its not then vesper is literally gone
<unenthusiastic>OH NO, ANYTHING BUT THAT

>>53174306
Probably that they got caught with their pants down, and that the poor reception of this weirdly completely-divorced-from-hololive marketing was an issue.

>>53174378
>because if its not then vesper is literally gone

>>53174378
Does Kronii regain her CGDCT status if they both leave?

>>53174057
NTA, here yesterday's drawing stream graph - notice difference between 100% straight lines in Niji graph, and sawtooth in Ina's?

>>53174443
I know Mumei and Ame both have Henma, I'm not sure if he handles any others.
There was a time that IRyS and Bae had the same manager, not sure if that's still true.
Fauna and Kronii also had the same manager at one point.

>>53174312
>yesterday
Anon, a lot could happen in a day.

>Magni and Vesper were going out
>Suddenly Magni rm activity
>No signal of Vesper
he kicked Vesper from a cliff isn't it?

>>53174329
Wait is this why she's interested in playing FPS out of nowhere?

>>53174474
Probably, considering all the other boys stick to IDs

>>53174474
>Does Kronii regain her CGDCT status if they both leave?
She'd be on parole.

>>53174440
Vesper doesn't use Twitter, even as his roommate

>>53174474
If she goes a year without collabing with any of the others then yeah sure. But lets be real, her cocklust has been so extreme that she'll find someone else pretty quick.

>>53174452
How did they even think that separating BJ from Hololive completely is a good fucking idea?

Incase you want to know why Cover didn't announce it on HolostarsJP or HololiveJP twitter, was because they don't want stakeholders to notice this event

>>53174503
12 hours, Anon.

>>53172342
This year Koshien might reach 400k. All authentic human being that only watch Koshien and never tweet, comment or watch clips of course

>>53174443
They rotate managers every now and then but >>53173445

Didn't Vesper roommate enter a streaming event using his old avatar with other vtubers. Somebody posted it here a couple of months ago

>>53174544
why do you love saying cock? say man or person, why are you a fag?

>okbh homobeggars still fucking seething about getting bitchslapped in the main sub

>>53174483
>notice difference between 100% straight lines in Niji graph, and sawtooth in Ina's?
Yep, that's the point being made, most charts have minute variation across the time, usually a slight slope upwards or downwards and, in EN case, the "teeth".
It is very weird to see streams with a 0 degrees little variation like that one

What worries me if magni and vesper decided to self destruct and leak holo talents info. turns out theyre niji planted

>>53174569
Not sure why something that happened months ago would matter now

>>53174440
Sure, Vesper needs Magni's tender 24 hour care, who can't leave his side even to tweet from his account that "hey guys me and Vesper won't have access to a computer to stream from because we're camping".
>>53174440
They've been missing streams for days, they didn't only miss it yesterday.

>>53174597
what

>>53172101
The weirdest part is that his rigging is way better than theirs, yet those movements are what's supposed to be funny?

From outside communities, every single dance ever looks goofy as fuck, so vtubers with shitty rigging mocking him is absurd.

>>53174512
Yes, we got a bigger problem in JP with VSPO popularity. Male collabs will be normalized

>>53174569
That one was because the organizer is his old friend. It's more or less the same as Marine revived her old account to come to her old friend's birthday.

>>53174590
It's the only part of the man that Kronii loves

>>53174360
holy shit its true, and before nijigers try to claim the >adbreak excuse, nope, you can check all the other streams on the day, nobody got it, from holos to normal niji streams
https://vrabi.net/daily/2023-05-05

>>53174557
That's still a lot of time.
What, did we suddenly live in a world where being active in social media suddenly give you invincibility for the next 24 hours?

>>53174306
New yab today?

>>53174569
It wasn't an event, it was just an apex collab

>>53174552
lmao if Vesper and Magni are actually using this to bargain their contract they having yuge balls.

>>53174614
There's nothing they know that we don't already know.

>>53174621
>>53174503

>>53174512
>suddenly interested
>when she's already doing APEX streams for years now.

>>53174638
weird because you are the only one talking about it

>>53174633
Yeah that's not particularly uncommon really, Fauna's done something like this before too.

>>53173791
>Sacrifice a 3 star monster on the field to send 2 1 star monsters of the opponent to the graveyard
Pretty good exchange if you ask me

My guess is vesper convinced fagni to a sudden gay camping trip and ghosted their managers.

>>53173073
>>53172808
Stop replying to this ESL baiter.
He shit up the catalog threads with almost these exact phrases.

>>53174549
Hubris, an attempt at some weird marketing stunt, who knows for sure unless you're upper management at Cover.

>>53174343
I'm going to grudge post that so hard if he's dead.

>>53174535
She already fooled you twice anon. Still hoping for it?

>>53174503
THIS! fucking IDIOTS in this thread don't realise that cover is always quick to respond to delicate situations

>>53174680
Ahhh some good Kronie cope in the morning, should maybe head back to your safespace

why are homobeggars trying to derail the vesper magni talk to nene? go back to catalog fag, i know you want to make another nene thread

where tally

>>53174693
Wrong thread sis, mans is down the hall

>>53173302
Ohhhhhh, the ESL shitter is French.
I get it now.

>>53174474
Does a hymen regrow?

>>53174688
>sack one for 2 pop
Thats a flat 0 on econ

this is why hiking is a meme

>>53174598
Niji streams graphs were always wild, same thing with their numbers for events. And this Koshien season, it's all looking even more bizarre than before - yesterday Nijis had 4 streams over 60k and yet almost no clips from those streams (or at least no views for those clips). It seems that every viewer interested in Koshien is watching it live, doesn't watch anything other from their organs and doesn't watch any clips. Oh, and they dissapear at the end of the stream, no one goes to watch other Niji streams after that.

>>53174378
I mean absolute best case scenario the fags are gonna miss yet another important event and become even more despised by the homo unity sisters. If those fags get fired Tempiss is pretty much fucked.

>>53173970
low energy zatsu streams just graph like that. The average viewer opens it on a separate tab and leave it running while they do their own thing. That's also why her chat engagement is abysmal for the CCV.

>>53174649
Then something bad must have happened to Vesper and Magni at different times, because Vesper ghosted streams since last week.

GOLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPy6U7ZufI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPy6U7ZufI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPy6U7ZufI

>>53173665
>MoRYS

>>53173936
I really need to watch Moona besides Peko's undeveloped body

>>53174818
Perfect timing

>>53174792
nah that's obviously bots

>>53174811
or Magni is the closest to Vesper and they needed someone to drive over and check on the retard

Gura acrylics 2 more units. Buy it now.

>>53174239
You need to hear this from someone. TV isn't real life

>>53174497
kek

>>53174818
>11AM JST
EN3 announcement will overlap this

>>53174474
no, clockcucks were exiled forever

>>53174818
>HOME 3D
LET'S FUCKING GO

>>53174893
wouldn't this be the second fucking time Vesper has fucked over Axel to some capacity

>>53174874
Sure, and they also happened to include Magni in the notice just because, and not because Magni also ghosted his stream on Saturday while still being active on his RM twitter 12 hours ago.

>>53174901
Announcements are on Tuesday nights burger time. IRyS is celebrating on Monday.

>>53174901
>EN3 announcement
Again, it's gonna be at least 2 more months at the earliest.

>>53174893
>>53174420
Told you lol

>>53174946
Reminder

>>53174930
sex

>>53174930
No 3D Live? She lives in Japan, the studio's right there.

ID2's 3D

>>53174818
>ShitRyS
Cripple gold maybe

>>53174811
Vesper has been gone for 2 days, while Magni retweeted stuff yesterday. Them both stopping vtubing activity at the same time is surprising.

3D SHOWCASE

Tempus announcement give me hope for EN3
I believe Hololive EN will revive the entire EN vtubing scene

>>53174946
>Vesper saw Axel as his younger self
>Vesper gets suspended and stop activities before Axel
wdhmbt?

>>53175005
>>53175010
Occupied.

>>53175010
why do they have to make the dates so hard to read

>>53175036
Magni is in charge of finding Vesper

>>53175087
Next 3 Fridays JST 20:00. There

>>53174818

>>53175010
>>53175038
Reine and Anya will be the only good ones

So Yamato Fantasia is free in Holoearth? What's the point of the spwn tickets then?

>open MANS
>ask about the possible reason on Magni Vesper thingy
>"Magni pregnant"
>"destroyed each other ass"
eww

>>53175142
Ollie is shit but she's still a performer.

>>53175036
>>53175126
Where in the World is Vesper Noir?

>>53175152
Vod

>>53175010
damn no EN3 this month. rip the dream is dead

>>53175152
for people who want to pay/don't want to install Holoearth/don't have a PC capable of running Holoearth

>>53175087
Because that retard cuts it off for some reason.

>>53175142
Ollie and Haachama's 3D performance was the best in HoloFes. She'll be fine on stage

>>53175153
What the fuck did you think the demographic of homoshits consists of?

>>53175159
nah she's not

>>53175152
For people who can't install the game on their potator laptop

>>53175152
To give you an incentive to download the game.

>>53175165
Didn't vesper like Carmen Sandiego?

>>53175201
Not shit or not a performer
Because you're wrong on both accounts

>>53175165
He seems like more trouble than he's worth at this point.

>>53174987
>apology post locked in tier 3 membership
Who else besides Vesper has ever done this?

>>53174614
>Leak holotalents info
Not only will cover go scortch the earth on them, they will probably die before any charges can be pressed.

>>53175192
>Hachaama
kind agree
>Oliie
kek

>>53175193
Gross, she should be forced to rub her sweaty thighs on my face as punishment

>>53175193
Why does this read like a copypasta

sad that ID2 3D showcase will be crushed by Koshien

>>53175259
Both of them performed together anonchama....

>>53174614
>Niji plants kill the stars branch in its entirety
Niji would be doing Cover a huge favour

>>53175222
she's shit and a bad performer

>>53175274
ID2 would never win gold under any circumstances to be honest

>>53172342
Vstats has Yashiro at
>82,639
and so does Nijimado
>82,639
I never saw 83k when watching the stream live so, I don't know where Vrabi got that peak from.

>>53175010
>>53175038
prediction? koshien killer possible?

>>53175087
Anon are you perhaps dyslexic?

>>53175259
What's this retarded contrarian take nigger, you thought their Lost One's Weeping duo performance was good but that Haachama was the standout performer?

>>53175295
that doesnt imply both were good retardchama...

>>53175333
Lmao no.

>>53175010
This order is wierd, why is Reine going first?

>>53175005
You think if Pekora can’t get a 3D Live IRyS can?

>>53175259
Anon... they were together.

>>53175333
>>>>>>>>>>>ID2

>>53175259
>>53175312
go back to facebook

>>53175153
yeah the brotuber cope is dead

>>53175333
They are going to get somewhere in the 50k range, so unless koshien does really badly that day, no

>>53175333
It's the weakest hologirl gen 50k max

It's ogre.

>>53175348
indeed, is that hard for your brain to understand?

BINGO

>>53173302
I agree with you all companies should be sweating bullets hoping their consumer base is happy. But that doesn't matter because Hololive tries to appease the 1% worth nothing as opposed to the 99% paying the bills.