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Superstar Birb edition.

Schedule:
https://teamup.com/kshfyhfe5xdhwku7v7

kawaii Idol Project Original Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFvLEs-Mbg

All song covers:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgw0Icl_o0Y2Ogqdlux_YYhJnMPk8x3Ax

Merchandise:
https://productionkawaii.booth.pm

>Gen 1
【Charlotte Suzu シャーロット・スズ】
https://twitter.com/charsuzu_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@CharlotteSuzu

【Isla Coleman アイラ・コールマン】
https://twitter.com/isla_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@isla_kawaii

【Nene Amano 天野寧々】
https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@NeneAmanoCh

【Reina Sun レイナ・サン】
https://twitter.com/reina_kawaiii
https://youtube.com/@ReinaSunCh

>Gen 2
【Lua Asuka 飛鳥瑠藍】
https://twitter.com/LuaAsuka_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@LuaAsuka

【Namiji Freesia ナミジ・フリージア】
https://twitter.com/namiji_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@NamijiFreesia

【Shee Icho 銀杏しい 】
https://twitter.com/SheeIcho_kawaii
https://youtube.com/@SheeIchoKawaii

▼kawaii ""Friends""
Prism >>>/vt//ppg+/
Tsunderia >>>/vt//tsunx/
AkioAIR and Co. >>>/vt//aa/
V&U >>>/vt/vnug/
Reina's pet crustacean Ebi - https://twitter.com/ushioebi
Nene's pet crustacean Kani - https://twitter.com/Kanikanizawa
Rei Tadano - https://twitter.com/zinseifunTai
Shabel Tonya -https://twitter.com/ShabelTonya
Auri Lunami - https://twitter.com/AuriLunami
and (You), the viewer!

Previous thread: >>53114901

>> No.53145678

>>53145423
Lua cute!

>> No.53145709

>>53145423
This OP again? Cucklings are retarded and should be shot

>> No.53145719

Lua read my chat messages you whore or i wont give you money

>> No.53145810
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>>53145709
>again
apologize for being a retard

>> No.53145832
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Holding smol Nene down by force and pounding her hard and deep inside with my massive pecker!
Making smol Nene's tight cunny take the shape of my cock!
Treating smol Nene like an onahole and ramming in her nonstop!
Blowing a thick load inside smol Nene, staining her insides with my smelly spunk!
Pounding smol Nene's womb again and again!
Giving it to smol Nene the deepest she's ever felt it!
Yessir, yessir!

>> No.53145882
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>> No.53145908

>>53145719
shut up jcArtman the cuck heh

>> No.53145933

>>53145832
someone commission a cunny artist to make this ritualpost a reality

>> No.53145943

>>53145810
Yeah, it's another lua with the furry shit on. Get new material retarded cuck

>> No.53145959

Lua is the most fall-in-loveable woman ever.

>> No.53146011

>>53145943
cuckspect furryrist at it again

>> No.53146047

>>53145959
if you are a cuck heh

>> No.53146092

stop overusing heh

>> No.53146098
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>>53145959
>

>> No.53146192

I'm about to do something crazy in Shee members stream heh

>> No.53146321

>>53145933
How much are you willing to pay me.

>> No.53146704
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Nami boobs

>> No.53146808

>>53146704
nami fat heh

>> No.53147057

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

>> No.53147061

more like fat donos for chart zoom

>> No.53147091
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53147091

Woozie graduating. Possible Kawaii talent? The only thing I know about her is that she BTFO'd that Kronii schizo Gabe when he tried to groom her.
How would you feel if she ended up in Kawaii?

>> No.53147123

>>53147091
if she's not latina then i don't care

>> No.53147135

literally who

>> No.53147277

twitch streams soon heh :KEKW:

>> No.53147363

>>53147091
WHO?

>> No.53147416

>>53147277
:MonkaS: fr? on god? bruv...lyk...no way...
NO ONE WILL STREAM ON TWITCH YOU FRUITY FAGGOTS LUA WILL ONLY DO SOME BORING GRINDY PARTS OF SOME GACHA GAMES MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE, AND SHE WON'T EVEN TALK DURING THOSE STREAMS IT WILL BE LIKE A WORKING STREAM THAT YOU KEEP IN THE BACKGROUND.

>> No.53147492

>>53147091
maybe, but there is also Phase Gen3 and I think she fits their style better

>> No.53147500

schizoGOD...

>> No.53147505

>>53147135
>>53147363
She was in myholo TV apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/@WoozieWannai
Supposedly a retro gamer. I don't know much about her

>> No.53147565

>>53147416
:PogChamp: Ayo?! :PepeChad: Who knows what she'll do, but if she isn't chatting just know I'm clapping her cheeks, so she has to stay muted so she wont moan into the mic. :Kappa:

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>> No.53147593

>>53147416
mindbroken heh

>> No.53147637

>>53147579
imagine...IMAGINE

>> No.53147665

>>53147416
why do you talk like that?

>> No.53147784

I'm immediately skeptical of anyone who would leave one corpo to join another on the grounds that if they'd do it to them what stops them from doing it to us and just making kawaii another stepping stone.
I get that going from indie to corpo as per Gen 3 doesn't protect us from that danger either but it's like... I dunno, it's more in your face this way.

I also really dislike the idea of using the term "graduation" and have it literally only mean a job change with a new paint job. The term really doesn't feel like it has any meaning anymore and is just a vestigial relic from a by-gone idol culture influence.

She might be a great girl and all I don't know this is the first I've heard of her but those are my thoughts and concerns.

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53147839

I love agency vtuber (virtual YouTuber) Ms. Lua Asuka of Production kawaii Generation 2 (novamore)
https://youtu.be/tisDJbuJQ6c?t=15557

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https://youtu.be/6wxCuq2OltE

>> No.53148009

>>53147784
would you really crucify a kawaii girl or any small corpo girl for leaving their corpo if they were offered a holo contract

>> No.53148084

>>53148009
Yes.

>> No.53148143

>>53147784
People are graduating their characters / models that they used to pilot. For some people that means a lot. I dropped chuubas even after original model reworks, let alone completely different models or personas in another corpo.

>> No.53148149

>>53147091
I am watching her announcement video and I can't get past that she is using Isla's ending music.

>> No.53148152

>>53147784
Kawaii Friend Miori Celesta has left 2 companies and is one of the most loyal Kawaii Friends. She stood by us through both the dox whore yab and the gen 3 betrayal.

>> No.53148190

>>53148009
A traitor is a Traitor

>> No.53148192

>>53147091
>>53147505
she has a chat "favorite"
pink women illness iykyk

>> No.53148269
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get a load of this

>> No.53148281

>>53148190
>>53148084
lol, ok, next time a coworker leaves your company for a new job make sure you chew them out too

>> No.53148307
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53148307

>>53146704

>> No.53148328

>>53147579
Naked dogeza for not banning all treasonkeks

>> No.53148358

applications close tomorrow!

>> No.53148424

>>53148281
company hopping from small corpo to small corpo is generally seen as a negative in the "Production Kawaii" general otherwise known as /pkg

>> No.53148428

>>53148281
Kawaii has some of the most rabid "anti everything" /here/ fans ever. Funniest part is that none of these faggots donate or buy merch AYYYYY LMOA!!! The ultimate larping faggotry.

>> No.53148447

>>53148281
Hey faggot, I'm not a vtuber. I don't look at this like it's a co-worker, I look at it as if I found a vtuber whose content I enjoyed and decided to dedicate 2-6 hours out of my day watching their streams, giving them financial donations and buying their merchandise to support them as personalities and entertainers on my magic porn machine.
Yeah, if I put that kind of dedication into supporting somebody I'd be pissed if they decided to walk and go somewhere else.

>> No.53148496

>>53148428
you were clearly not /here/ for the concert

>> No.53148538

>>53148428
>Funniest part is that none of these faggots donate or buy merch
prove it, dramashitter
can't? weren't here for the concert? not here whenever new merch drops? then fuck off

>> No.53148542

>>53147784
Woozie has a confirmed boyfriend yab heh

>> No.53148607

are tenshi beams good for you?

>> No.53148621

>>53148542
demz is sum hoez mayne

>> No.53148623

when do you guys think he talents will debut

>> No.53148668

>>53148447
>i support vtuber
>thanks to my support, vtuber grows and gets a better position (in the same industry where i can still watch them)
>NOOOO!!!!

>> No.53148687

>>53148607
There is a correlative relationship with them and higher levels of skin cancer in Cloudtomo's who are regularly exposed to them but as of right now no comprehensive study has determined whether it is causative or not.

>> No.53148694

>>53148623
Maybe September or October

>> No.53148698
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>>53148607
Tenshi beam broke my kidney stones. Thanks Nene!

>> No.53148701

why would kawaii poach from living corpos? it's not like we have a ccv funnel ie. rin/pippa we're literally the gfe corpo if you don't foster your own audience you'll just die

>> No.53148716

>>53148607
they delete hana's vods through god's grace

>> No.53148755

>>53148701
>gfe corpo
kill yourself

>> No.53148863

>>53148668
why would you be a "muh freedom" shill in the corpo general?
our talents are ride or die for Kawaii in their own words

>> No.53148891

>>53148755
Unintentional and unwilling gfe are still gfe and even if you cope that away we still have Gaming Female Experience

>> No.53148927

>>53148668
Stop shifting the goalposts. Make an argument and stick with it or admit you're just flailing around because you have some weird emotional investment in people unconditionally supporting the things you want them to.
I like what I like, I don't like what I don't like.
If you want your Oshi to graduate from a small corpo so she can join Nijisanji and attract a completely new audience, develop an entirely new chat culture, collab and interact with an entirely different set of other vtubers and abide by different company standards and practices then that's for you to want.
I don't want that and you can't make me want that.

>> No.53148960

>>53148755
cope and seethe and dilate sister
did you enjoy the Shee asmr?

>> No.53149055

>>53148328
this. ban the traitors and treasonkeks and unban the loyaltyKING Kevin

>>53148623
the sooner the better. the girls are probably still reeling from gen 3 so i would rather the debuts just be over and done with. rip that bandage off quickly sort of thing

>> No.53149293

Shee??

>> No.53149313

Shee...

>> No.53149368

>>53148891
i want them all to have bf reveals so people like you kill themselves

>> No.53149440

omgggg so true sister

>> No.53149481

I don't like /corpo/nigs so them losing another one is good news. Woozie herself was fine I guess, besides the early bf yab, fat voice and retarded name

>> No.53149516

>>53149368
Charzu will do gfe asmr and you will be happy

>> No.53149521
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>> No.53149551

Shee...how did you even mess up like that

>> No.53149593

>>53149055
>ban the traitors and treasonkeks
Agree
>unban the loyaltyKING Kevin
Kevin deserves a streamer that values and deserves loyalty >>47056733

>> No.53149600

>>53149551
Something happened to her lasagna?

>> No.53149615

the lasagna.............

>> No.53149675

a literal explosion... this bitch breathes manually

>> No.53149697
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>>53148755
Do I really need to go back into the archives and spam posts proving you're a tourist every time you shitters show up?
Here's something from December 2021 for you to choke on.

>> No.53149753
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53149753

the shee curse is coming for its dues after she was such a hit at the concert

why bros

>> No.53149812

why is shee such a loveable retard

>> No.53149859

Do you think Nene and her brother...?

>> No.53149881

>>53138822
>>53139134
The crazy thing he did was get a skeb of Lua with the correct proportions for once
https://twitter.com/LuketheGoonVT/status/1676296054243729412

>> No.53149888

>>53149697
You are a deluded troon who copes with "muh unintentional gfe is gfe". Only one kawaii chuuba plays the GFE niche straight, another one is GFE-adjacent. The rest is all in your head.

>> No.53149896

alright who's gonna buy her a new casserole dish

>> No.53149952

>>53148623
Gen 2 auditions ended August 31st and they debuted November 5th. (66 days)
Gen 3 auditions ended July 7th and they debuted August 28th (52)
Gen 4 auditions ended July 10th and they will debut September 1st (53 days) or 8th (60 days) No other kawaii related event happens that month (the closest event would be Nene's birthday but that is a month away on October 4th)

>> No.53149987

>>53147091
Kawaii would be a bad fit for her, she might end up in Phase

>> No.53150019

Production Kawaii Virtual Youtubers for this particular feeling?

https://nitter.net/betcheswildin/status/1676288110861099009#m

>> No.53150021

>>53149481
They have some of the kawaii anti there for some reason always shit talking kawaii (probably beryl fags). Just like many small corpo fags, they always chase shiny new debut FOTM when actual older gen /aa/ girls are virtually forgotten in the thread.

>> No.53150026

>>53149896
Brandon but only if she collabs with males heh

>> No.53150057
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>>53149888
I don't even have to refute you. The archives already do it.

>> No.53150083

>>53150021
Like one person there always spam some /same/ girl stream as well even when they aren't in any corpo.

>> No.53150111

>>53150026
he already did earlier

>> No.53150114

>>53149952
>No other kawaii related event happens that month
Nene's solo concert....

>> No.53150124

>>53149952
Nene's solo concert is supposed to happen in September

>> No.53150182

>>53150057
stop arguing with sisters, if you pull up any of kawaii's monsoon of GFE content they'll just cope with "a-a-a-actually they're only doing GFE to milk money out of you virgin incel LOSERS" like they always do

>> No.53150219

>>53150182
>a-a-a-actually they're only doing GFE to milk money out of you virgin incel LOSERS
aren't they?

>> No.53150231

>>53150124
Forgot about that, they really should start advertising it.

>> No.53150232

Which Kawaii talent is doing GFE out of the goodness of her heart and not for incel money?

>> No.53150255

>>53150021
berylfags are annoying

>> No.53150264
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>>53150114
>>53150124
is that what her announcement is gonna be?

>> No.53150314

>>53150264
Im guessing its going to be the date and all the details related to it.

>> No.53150335

>>53150264
> Nene's big announcement
> Which she said on stream she can't spill any beans about
Is it going to be something she's already announced? I'd wager not.

>> No.53150362

the peaceful smile on shee's model is such a contrast to what shee's actually doing right now

>> No.53150363

>>53150057
That Shee died until the recent ASMR, and even counting her on the same level as Lua (lmao), half of the company is still not GFE pandering. But you losers see that shit even in the most anti-GFE talent who goes out of her way to dodge it or turn it into a joke. Peak delusion.

>> No.53150367

>>53150114
>>53150124
I forgot about that, I was mainly thinking about repeating events like birthdays or anniversaries.

>> No.53150371

>>53150264
That defenseless cunny...

>> No.53150393

>big announcement
oh no no no no...

>> No.53150442

stop moving around the weekly ASMR nene
I need it on SUNDAY nights ONLY to get me through the week

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I need to nut in Lua

>> No.53150657

>>53149952
as a bonus
Gen 1 "auditions" opened March 10th and ended March 24th and they debuted on April 28th-30th which was only 35 days.

>> No.53150753

>>53149888
You can't convince these "people" they are a lost cause

>> No.53150792

Shee...

>> No.53150810

i want to give shee a big hug

>> No.53150864

>>53150363
>>53150753
you people are way to insecure to enjoy anything
Lua is blatantly gfe but you still have to cope

>> No.53150869

>>53150753
They are the same kind of men who see a female cashier or a waitress smiling at them and they think "she loves me!"

>> No.53150899

>gfeschizo samefagging
slow day i guess

>> No.53150957

>>53150864
yeah, I gave you schizos Shee, Nene and Lua for the GFE talents. The rest you have to be deluded or a cuck (Reina) to call them GFE.

>> No.53151067

>>53150957
I mean that doesn't prevent Reina from flirting and being lovey dovey with her chat

>> No.53151079

nami is gfe

>> No.53151117

>>53151067
while DMing male vtubers for collabs, peak GFE indeed

>> No.53151190

>>53151079
Herojis get the GFE (Gay Friend Experience)

>> No.53151209

>>53118560
Why are cloud-tomo act like this

>> No.53151230

>Shee was literally getting ready to take a picture of the lasagna before it exploded
man i wanna hug this woman

>> No.53151266

>>53150864
>lua
everytime kek do cucklings even watch streams or are they that delusional?

>> No.53151307

I wish Nami or Lua would pick up BDO

>> No.53151325

>>53151266
how many times do we have to timeloop this you insecure faggot?

>> No.53151398

>>53151266
That like saying water isn't wet, lmao

>> No.53151444

is this the result of inclining

>> No.53151468

>>53151444
/pkg/ moves way too fast nowadays

>> No.53151475

literal /same/fagging

>> No.53151591

>>53151475
ah haha clever.

>> No.53151629

>>53151591
we say /same/fag all the time

>> No.53151645

>>53151325
>>53151398
your future schizo meltdown will make cloudtomos look normal kek

>> No.53151656

Isla gfe

>> No.53151682

vaccum suck Shee's voluptuous breats

>> No.53151698

>>53151266
I can give them Lua, to me she is entry level GFE. Nene is the GFE benchmark, everything else in kawaii is just vtubers not hating their fans and being decent human beings.

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>>53150371
https://www.youtube.com/live/adQ5qXuGogk?feature=share&t=3625

>> No.53151765

dhampir power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIgtKs-teI

>> No.53151893

When is gen 3+1 debuting?

>> No.53152031

>Shee REALLY likes lime
urgghh...my latina rrats...they grow more powerful every day...

>> No.53152084

>>53151893
tomorrow

>> No.53152433

>>53151698
she is roleplay only anything else is schizo delusions

>> No.53152608

>>53152433
Every GFE is technically roleplay. It's in the fucking name itself. Girl friend EXPERIENCE. You get the experience, and not a real girlfriend. I don't know how did chuuba fans deluded themselves so hard to think that a chuuba can be your literal girlfriend that you share with hundreds of other guys. And dont give me normalfag this or that I was literally homebound for years agoraphobic and lonely as fuck and even I didnt delude myself with that kind of shit.

>> No.53152718

>gfeschizo still samefagging
>gfeschizo still trying to fight a battle they already lost
Why is xe/xer like this?

>> No.53152766

>>53150442
I do really miss having it as a fixture of me week. A bit strange how we've gone in what feels like days from "I won't take a break" to "my vacation." At this rate I think it might be until like, October, until travel and concerts are all done and things go back to "normal"

>> No.53152810

gonna give chart soon a big fat dono tomorroq

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>>53145423
I know we're all getting pretty tired of Kirigaya but I just wanted to thank everyone for not explaining to him how we know it's him. We don't always see eye to eye here so I appreciate you guys respecting my judgment call that it's much funnier this way.

I invite anyone new to the thread to please take a moment and familiarize yourself with the Kirigaya Cringe Compendium (WIP), a curated selection of his most cringe moments in our talents' chats (and 1 Fanbox screenshot).
>>35651152
>>39213067
>>39208159 (she announced a hiatus shortly after this btw)
>>15101892
>>15102520
>>15152783
If anyone has a favorite memory of someone from gen 1 or 2 having to deal with Kirigaya feel free to share, if we get enough submissions maybe we can get a Rentry going.

>> No.53152878

Isla...

>> No.53152917

>>53152876
oh shit this post is talking to me. I'm new.

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>namefag timeloop for the 99th time today

>> No.53153572

i smile whenever shee peaks her mic

>> No.53154081

PLease let Shee win one she needs it

>> No.53154755

is it jannies or bots that come here and troll these threads because it's the same shit I see all the time

>> No.53154918

>>53154755
Just retards that feel the need to respond to every bait

>> No.53155300

>>53154755
There's one or two retards shitting up /pkg/ for literally months now. I noticed that whenever you challenge one of them, his butt buddy comes in to defend him. That goes back since the early days of "delete schizos".
Anyways, I call a friend, he says he has a pounding headache. I just took some painkillers for my headache an hour ago. My bro calls me, says the same. I jump into the game and my duo tells me she has a massive headache and it will be hard to focus. This is 3 different parts of the world btw. Wtf is going on? I hope Isla chama is feeling ok.
inb4 nice blog faggot yea go fuck your mother.

>> No.53155301

how is Shee actually having fun with this game? I wish I could be as optimistic about everything as she is

>> No.53155353

Nia should graduate and prism out

>> No.53155372

>>53155300
>This is 3 different parts of the world btw. Wtf is going on?
They are all reading pkg

>> No.53155518

>>53155353
anon this isn't ppg

>> No.53155741

>>53152876
Mans think he knows "it's KiRiGaYa" every thread lol, wait till someone calls the real Kiri here and then this discordfag Nemefag goes quiet acting like "But but but that isn't him! I know it isnt!" Lmaooo

>> No.53155775

shut up nigga

>> No.53155847

Funny enough I know this fag is trying to refer to the 3 shee/gfe comments before his as Kirigaya and their not because I know who the real Kirigaya here is lol, Neme and you Nemefags, go back to discord and stop harassing a non-existant ghost lmaooo, man's got so mad about GFE talk he really deflected to Kiri

>> No.53155946

>Fanbox and exposing Discord doxxers = Cringe
>Dude is mad he got exposed as one of the doxxers
>Dude deflects and calls Kirigaya cringe as copium
>Posts on 4chan to deflect, gets roasted as a Nemefag
>Thinks he's winning lol

>> No.53155958

Black Company

>> No.53155986

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzRXmzzCHug
Is it unironically over

>> No.53155989

shut up nigga

>> No.53156028

>>53155986
AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.53156049

>>53155986
No, like half of her shorts are clickbait, you can't take her seriously anymore

>> No.53156121

>>53155986
IT'S OVER NENESCHIZO WON

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BuyeeKINGS...

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how dare you play with my heart like that

>> No.53156247

>>53155986
Didn't she said if she were to graduate it wouldn't be in this fashion?

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>> No.53156293

>>53156247
she has, she's even fucking around in her chat right now

>> No.53156326

>>53156278
Why did you post mori

>> No.53156352

its a solo concert announcement stream she's done this before

>> No.53156445

>>53156293
We shouldn't worry that much in that case.

>> No.53156450

dramatrannies will be hounding the stream praying for a graduation announcement lmao

>> No.53156480

Aruru...come back...

>> No.53156618

>>53156480
She won't come back as long as Neme and the fagganggroupies stick around. She's viewed the discord already and knows who the schizo fags are.

>> No.53156682

>>53155986
She told us this morning that she would be doing this and that everything is fine, but it still hurts to see.
What does she get out of this joke? I wonder what the announcement actually is too.

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>>53155986
EN3

>> No.53156763

>>53156703
That would be the end of Kawaii

>> No.53156789

>>53156682
its the solo concert I just told you she has to bait her asmr viewers

>> No.53156800

>>53155986
fucking based nene baiting schizo threads for more views smartest tenshi

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>>53156703
She streams too much, Hana would be a much better fit

>> No.53157056

>>53155986
Is this the Hana vod apology stream? Based Tenshi! I knew she will come to her senses!

>> No.53157176

It's the announcement for real gfe content and her becoming THE twitch streamer :kekw:

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>>53156278
>>53155986

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>>53152876
This you right? Same dude who made 2+ discord accounts, same dude exposed for deleting his cringe comments, same dude who made a new account cause you got blocked by Kiri for harassing him so you made a new one to harass him right?

>> No.53157499

>>53157271
wtf kek

>> No.53157518

go take your discordtroon catfight somewhere else. i swear you faggots act like women

>> No.53157608

The longer this discordfag keeps timelooping this thread with Kiri shitposts, the more cringe we can extend his cringe list including his early Nenestream days lol

All he has to do to make it stop is to stop timelooping himself.

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He has a point, you know.

>> No.53157783

>think about my mental illness :(((

>> No.53157854

>>53157724
The stream title screams confidence issues. She NEEDS to drama bait and graduate bait for people to show up.

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>> No.53157896

>>53157271
Seems pretty based except for the blue whore thing

>> No.53157927

>>53157861
alright that's just pathetic, Nene lmao

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>>53157927
>>53157861
the regulars in on the joke because she forewarned us literally today that this was happening and everything is fine. Still a bit cruel to laugh at the heartstrings you're playing. Those chumps should watch streams if they want to be informed though.

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>> No.53158048

>>53157896
Understandable, it's unfortunate the same discordfag is here always timelooping whenever someone doesn't bring anything up about Nene so it gets annoying so we gotta start timelooping all his cringe whenever he deflects it on a ghost from his past.

>> No.53158050

I lost all of my respect for Nene. Graduation baiting isn't something that joke about.

>> No.53158112

>>53158050
That's the best way to get views, what do you think happened to Charzus Dead stream when a bunch of newfags came from nowhere asking "Omg she's graduating? I loved watching her!" despite never being there a single time before.

>> No.53158229

>>53158112
Yeah, but it seem desperate and manipulative of her to do that

>> No.53158261

I sympathize because it's hard to enjoy jokes that you are the butt of. The punchline is that they weren't there to watch the stream.

>> No.53158278

I can't even be upset with her prechat being on fire right now, she kinda deserves it for making this same unfunny joke what, 3 times already?

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go to bed

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>>53158050
Ogey Ben

>> No.53158339

kektomos are in prechat going full damage control mode for her lmao

>> No.53158343

>>53158279
Fuck-off male-collabing whore

>> No.53158347

>>53158112
bin bembose has double her numbers without haha funny fakeout graduation

>> No.53158355

>>53158229
Thats the point? Every corpo streamer is most likely doing it more for the buck than for the fans.

>> No.53158358

>>53157861
>>53158028
>>53158041
bully nene is real

>> No.53158398

>>53158355
I don't see other corpo talent keep baiting irl reveal and graduation shit for the 500th time

>> No.53158408

The joke would have been way funnier if she had let it build up to Saturday and not said shit

>> No.53158428

>>53158347
Bin benrose knows how to attract fans without being a cuck and jebaiting viewers. She encourages, entertains, teaches, and even empathize more with her viewers than kawaii talents often. As a Bin fan who watched from D1, she's def a good streamer (and it's not cause she's Bri'ish)

>> No.53158452

>jew shill
get out

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>>53158343

>> No.53158476

>>53158358
Man...I wish Nene would single me out during a stream and just destroy me, make me a laughing stock and everything.
Would be even better if she was being lovey dovey and nice right before that.

>> No.53158486

>>53158428
>>53158347
The shorts are fun, I admit, but I dipped into some actual streams and was not entertained. Chat too fast.

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WHAT DON'T WE LIKE

>> No.53158489

>>53158452
jelous of the numbers nene? Despite being longer on the grind? Maybe check your menhera

>> No.53158519

go back, idolnigger

>> No.53158559

>>53158490
Reina

>> No.53158571

>>53158486
If you were there during debut, it wasn't that bad. It's just she's grown so much the chat is fast now. Her genmates aren't that bad desu, I like some of them over some of the kawaii girls a lot desu.

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>>53158343

>> No.53158617

>>53158519
it was one of you that said nene is doing it for easy numbers but it is clear she is not getting the numbers others do. If she wants cheap numbers she should finally find that nude toggle on her model and put it to good use

>> No.53158645

trying to hard

>> No.53158666

>>53157724
>Anxiety
I agree baiting is dumb and annoying but I wish these fagoots were banned from the internet

>> No.53158680

>>53158452
>>53158519
Kawaii talent are boring af might as well discuss about other corp

>> No.53158697

Currently the status of Cloudtomos:
Is he cooking or is he right about what he's saying that everyone is, will, and can catch every stream? (Even new viewers) or do you just have to be a dumbfag and assume hahahehe it's obviously a prank somehow.

Imo I wonder when the day Nene graduates, if she will lie to viewers it's also a "good announcement" and then reveal its a graduation announcement the day of only to shake it off as a joke in the future.

>> No.53158706

the bait isn't even worth replying to anymore
carry on, /pkg/

>> No.53158759

>>53158617
>it is clear she is not getting the numbers others do
Bruh Nene is leading in Kawaii in numbers, who's she supposed to compete with? Bin benrose in a different corp not even doing the same thing (idol work and gfe content?)

>> No.53158763

karma finna bust a fat load all over nene when hana confimred holoEN3 fr

>> No.53158806

Are you lost retard? Go watch Gura.

>> No.53158818

Why is Production Kawaii so hated now?

>> No.53158834

>>53158759
argument was "she is doing it for numbers"
counter argument: chuubas with more numbers dont need to be retarded
if she want easy numbers, show tits.

>> No.53158921

People talk numbers, but some numbers are worth more than others. More viewers means more opportunity to convert casual viewers into paying customers and more eyeballs supports the algorithm positive feedback loop, but I have to wonder how many of those numbers gained on meteoric rises like the other chuuba aforementioned ITT are actually valuable individually.

>> No.53159007

>>53158834
Yeah, if she's fine with manipulating audience emotion for views. I don't think why she would have a problem with doing lewder asmr (ear licking, masturbating) stream to bait more coomer.

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>>53158834
Tbf, anything sex gfe nude loving mommy submissive sexo asmr like will instantly get her views/new viewers. She can be like some Twitch/FC2 JP asmr streamers and start doing ear licking or like play with herself to gain new types of viewers lol, especially when it seems her normal streams are braindead and empty compared to asmr

>> No.53159030

>>53158337
I know how Nene operates and that comment is the only thing I said about the stream. I don't like that style of bait but whatever.

>> No.53159114

>>53159021
>>53159007
I FUCKING WISH but it will never happen and it's good that it won't.

>> No.53159116

>>53158921
I guess when someone hits the algo that hard the appeal is the number itself you can sell yourself to companies and cons as a "popular vtuber" you don't have to rely on your audience

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Effortlessly has morons with no pattern recognition or critical thinking skills seething.
I should watch nene now

>> No.53159284

I gotta admit her content is nice but ykno there's the one weird $10k mic joke thing that constantly goes around and she even uploads with asmr titles and stuff every now n then like.. personally if I was a new viewer and saw that, I'd be like "Why is this bitch on her high horse flexing with a mic over others on for asmr content???"

>> No.53159297

>>53159030
Alright. You can go back to jerking it to CharCole

>> No.53159341

>>53159297
You have a weird opinion of me my guy.

>> No.53159379

>>53159284
It's algo farming and it works. Same reason Linus Tech Tips makes dumb faces thumbnails. You have to play the game.
>you like ASMR
>See girl has KU100
>you click
It works. I am much more interested in girls with that mic than 3DIOs even if I know it is not a guaranteed seal of quality.

>> No.53159390

Anyone notice she's moving all her videos into different Playlists the past 1-4 days? All of them says they've been updated recently strangely enough

>> No.53159416

>>53159390
>>53158028
pic related

>> No.53159473

>>53159379
KU100 def sounds better than adding blantly in the title "$10,000 mic" desu, I don't see any asmr vtuber or streamer going around openly bragging about it and posting it blantly as that. You just see shortened frank version of "KU100" which def sounds better and doesn't look like bragging as much.

>> No.53159474

>miss one stream
>fuck you for not being in on the joke xDDDD

>> No.53159477

Yeah, nene sucks
Anyway, how about charzu? I think she's amazing (and she's not a whore!)

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>>53159297
wrong guy my guy

>> No.53159510

>>53159473
watch jp asmr

>> No.53159525

>>53159473
I would prove you wrong were it not for the laws of this land. Two of the biggest ASMR channels do that very thing.

>> No.53159558

>>53159390
She used her day off to organize her streams.
https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii/status/1677106318111539200

>> No.53159615

>>53159474
thts what u get for having a life

>> No.53159630

>>53159615
based fuck normies

>> No.53159654

>>53159630
do you live with your parents? do you not have a job? if so your opinion is void entirely

>> No.53159656

bugthnaxth

>> No.53159731

>>53159525
Ok, who/which channels then.

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>>53159510
Watch em to.. compare the titles? I already listen to better asmr streamers like... I don't like Nenes asmrs imo.

>> No.53159870

>>53159654
I have my own podcast on how to be an alpha male and proper male grooming

>> No.53160062

>>53159654
Nta but 5 years ago I lived at home and had no job, full on NEET.
I've since gone to college and got a cushy WFH job and my own place. Still feel the same as when I was NEET. Really the only difference in lifestyle is that I don't have my mom bugging me and I have to work (actual work) for a couple hours every week.
I still never go out, I still eat trash food, I still spend 16+ hours a day on the PC watching YouTube, browsing 4chan, playing video games, and watching anime.
But then sometimes a faggot would call me a normalfag. And there are also people like you who really thinks that not living with your parents and having a job really matters somehow, enough so that you wouldn't completely dismiss them for not having those magical "goals" completed.

>> No.53161023

>>53160062
why are cloudtomos like this

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>>53161024
GODZILLA!

>> No.53161443

Shee mindbroke Nene so hard with the concert mogging that she needs to graduation bait to stay relevant

heh

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Based on what Nami said, she avoids male collabs because she is afraid of the creepers and said bigger companies can do it.
Respect for the fans not mentioned, Illusion that Kawaii members know how a man's heart works shattered.

>> No.53161764

>>53161657
Of course they're afraid of unicorn schizos

>> No.53161826

>>53161764
that's not the problem, she should be afraid of them, but the implication is that if they are big enough to atract "non creeps" they would do it.

>> No.53161840

>>53159779
True I don't often see the mic price baiting in ASMR videos. Literally just google it and you will see. They are usually in the context of comparing cheaper and more expensive mic's. This was probably one more of those managements "brilliant" ideas because they saw it somewhere else.

>> No.53161945

>>53161657
>>53161826
she will never say she knows goslings will feel cucked if their oshi collabs with male, that's too fucking cringe even for her even if it's true.

>> No.53162102

>>53161657
I don't remember when did male collabs prevent any "creepers" from stalking or harrasing someone. There are literal flesh streamers on twitch, streaming with their boyfriends/husbands, and even they get "creepers".
As long as you are not a literal whore with super whorish content that baits guys all the time, I think you're in the clear for the most part. Just fucking avoid cliques and discords and anything like that because there's always 2-3 faggots that crawl under your skin, collect info and then attack you with it once they snap.

>> No.53162179

>>53161657
I'm not a creep, I have zero feelings towards Nami but I unironically dropped her after the baseball comment combined with a few other things from the past. That is such a tone deaf thing to talk about in front of your fans that it's just ridiculous. Like someone said in one of the previous thread, Nami provides amazing"you are just a gay friend" experience.

>> No.53162195

>>53162102
Doxxknights...

>> No.53162336

>>53162179
Nami is a self-admitted tumblrina, it'd be more surprising if she didn't have gay friends

>> No.53162337

>>53162179
Nami is a niji fan niji females go out of their way to demean their male fans while niji men do Nene levels of bfe

>> No.53162369

>>53162337
>bfe
unironically who does this appeal to

>> No.53162403

>>53162369
Lonely women you retard.

>> No.53162421

>>53162369
Niji's gay audience, obviously. If you're watching prettyboy anime men online then you're at BEST a closeted faggot, women can get dick at the snap of a finger so they will never have need for men online

>> No.53162435

>>53162369
Nami and women like Nami ie. Lia from phase is also a tumblr fujo

>> No.53162468

>>53162369
to the female equivalent of GFEfags

>> No.53162472

>>53162403
>lonely women
if you're morbidly obese and riddled with illnesses maybe, but aside from that women literally don't struggle enough to find partners for bfe to be viable with them

>> No.53162521

>(You) thought they didnt want to collab with chads
just because your a incel doesn tmean they are lel

>> No.53162555

>>53162472
>don't struggle enough to find partners
LMAO

Females struggle to find the partner THEY WANT. "Femcels" are basically those deluded incels who think they are entitled to a virgin supermodel and won't settle for anything less.

>> No.53162572

>>53162435
>Lia
Girl unironically tweeted twice that she cried in a corner while listening to Niji males voice packs (Luca's) and she still have hundreds of viewers.
Vtuber fans are fucking idiots. This industry literally needs to die in the west. It's full of literal whores and tranny supporters. It became another vessel to virtue signal about the mentally ill alphabet soup crowd. (both Lia and Hime called J.K. Rowling a "disgusting transphobe).

>> No.53162592

>>53162555
fair enough

>> No.53162625

>>53162592
no it's really not stop replying to trolls

>> No.53162636

>>53161826
That isn't what she said or implied. Go back and listen carefully about what she said about guys trying to join kawaii.

>> No.53162637

>>53162472
GFE and BFE is never about the ability to have a partner, even less about the ability to have sex, plenty of women can have sex whenever they want and are still lonely as fuck, it's about a personal experience you imagine in your head of the idealized relationship.

>> No.53162667

>>53162636
yes I don't disagree with anything she said, I'm just saying she left a big part out or doesn't consider it.

>> No.53162684

>>53162637
well "never" is a bit far fetched..
obvs a cute girl saying she loves you has innate value

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>>53161657
>>53162521
Actually, it wasn't about male collabs. It was about the kind of men who would audition for a vtuber company. Until you get to Holo or Niji level, 99% of applicants are just creeps trying to get into their oshi DMs.

>> No.53162727

>>53161945
it's not that hard or cringe, even Kiara said it.
>Some fans will feel bad about it
That's all.

>> No.53162760

I don't like how "gfe" is used I think gachikoi is more accurate

>> No.53162762

>>53157861
>>53157724
I see this guy in notSava's chat and he's an actual tranny

>> No.53162775

>>53162637
how terrible does a woman have to be to be completely unable to find a boyfriend or husband? a lot of guys would risk it all even to land an even half decent woman

>> No.53162788

>>53162684
I can guarantee you if you have the money to get a virgin hooker every day people would still want for GFE.
Sex for sex sake gets old real fast, people want someone that needs them, or someone to live for.

>> No.53162794

>>53162710
serious cuck poster hours

>> No.53162819

>>53162762
>self-admitted gaokek

>> No.53162846

>>53162794
it's literally what Nami said

>> No.53162917

>>53162775
You don't know how women work, most women wont have a good marriage because they want a certain type of man, successful, good looking, but those men are less than 20% of the total, all women can't marry 20% of the guys so what happens is some of those 20% men will just play them to get a quick fuck while they keep thinking they can score a good man some day. their mistake is thinking they are worth those guys, that's why most of them are fated for loneliness or settling for an average guy and being unhappy.

>> No.53162959

>>53162788
>life is so shitty and meaningless that you need another person as a distraction to fill in the void
why are we here bros

>> No.53162968

>>53162917
what is an "average" guy?

>> No.53162977

>>53162775
They are not unable, they are unwilling. Almost all femcels are actually female volcels.

>> No.53162997

>>53162968
30k salary not 6ft tall.

>> No.53163003

>>53162959
why are (you) still here cuck poster?

>> No.53163029

>>53162997
do women need a boyfriend to be happy?

>> No.53163032

>>53163003
not your boogeyman, fag

>> No.53163074

>>53163029
some of them do, either a boyfriend or a kid, or some are fine being all alone too but those aren't the majority.

>> No.53163084

>>53162968
>not attractive
>irresponsible
>broke
>small cock
makes sense why women wouldn't settle for the rotten apples of the bunch

>> No.53163130

>>53163003
>mindbroken retard calls everyone in the thread a cuck completely out of context
lmaooooo wtf happened to you that you're so turbo retarded?
>>53163029
depends on the person obviously. you fags over-generalize. I doubt that someone like Charzu for example gives a fuck about that aspect of life. While others literally can't stay single for more than a week because otherwise their head would fucking explode. And I can't stand people like that male or female. People that always need to have someone with them. So needy...it's just creepy.

>> No.53163160

are all of you self hating failed normies

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Can we talk about Isla instead next thread?

>> No.53163184

>>53163160
keep throwing out those buzzwords and keep fighting windmills you imbecile. take your meds faggot and calm down

>> No.53163187

>>53163168
what about her

>> No.53163190

>>53163168
isla is gone anon.. its time to let go......

>> No.53163206

>>53163029
Some women are unironically fine without a man, the rest is just coping soon-to-be cat ladies.

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>>53163160
no of course not lol lmoa

>> No.53163265

>>53163130
Charzu only needs Isla cock

>> No.53163322

>>53163160
>normies

>> No.53163348

>>53163187
Favorite stream, games you'd like to see her play, favorite cover song, songs you'd like her to cover, hopes for her 2nd outfit, favorite "isla-ism", etc.

>> No.53163350

>>53163160
No we are Kirigaya hating failed Nemes

>> No.53163461

they would incline more if management forced them to play horror games

>> No.53163467

>>53163348
Thread is gonna die soon. I'll leave my reply for the next one.

https://youtu.be/BwuQYYfsCjM

>> No.53163499
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53163499

>nene graduationbait annoucement pre-chat
it's a constant stream of people saying they had a panic attack lmao

I get the joke but I also get the people freaking out because if you missed the streams where she set up the joke you are basically fucked. And don't hit me with the "but Nene said she would never leave!", vtubers saying one thing and doing the exact opposite the next day is an industry practice at this point. Pretty based to give emotional damage for fun but I wonder if it was necessary considering kawaii history with graduations and other dramashit.

>> No.53163538

>>53163461
That's several metas ago my guy.

>> No.53163542

>>53155986
>>53158041
she makes something like this every time someone graduates

>> No.53163595

>>53163542
I remember Nene posting a graduation-related video on the day Sana graduated from Holo and wondering if it was an intentionally bad taste joke or not, but I was new at the time. it's kinda funny that she's still doing it

>> No.53163614

>>53163499
yes i agree lua

>> No.53163639

>>53163538
Chilla's is kinda always meta though

>> No.53163649

>>53163542
>53163542
schizo chad she also deleted hanas vods and forced aletta to graduate

>> No.53163791
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53163791

>>53163595
figured I'd fact check this before anyone calls me a schizo, it was the day before Sana graduated, and she graduated on the 31st. so yeah she's been doing this for at least almost a year now

>> No.53163859

>>53163791
she usually makes more subtle remarks like using the graduating chuuba's catchphrase, idk why she decided to go all in this time

>> No.53163876

>>53163791
Maybe that's why some people hate Nene. It all makes sense now. A lot of people see that as a provocation and it seems that Nene has been on her "yas queen slay" arc for quite a long time.

>> No.53163962

>>53163876
she'll never leave us and she's a better vtuber than all of them combines, she has the right to be smug about it

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53163977

>>53163791
she also tried to save face in the comments by claiming she didn't know that Sana was graduating the next day, which...yeah sure lmao

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53164028

more importantly, new Birb sex just dropped
https://twitter.com/LuaAsuka_kawaii/status/1678323444033912833?t=rtXWOLrJJ1NSIMAPu8uxgg&s=19

>> No.53164036

>>53164028
Maybe we should've let AI do this one

>> No.53164067

are you the guy who tried to samefag through streamlabs but didn't switch ips?

>> No.53164070

>>53164036
yeah the anatomy is all fucked up but she's got a big dumpy so who cares

>> No.53164101

>>53163859
angry shee stole her spotlight at concert

>> No.53164137
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53164137

>>53164028
I don't get the scenario, she looks like she is in the water but is wearing a sports outfit. Maybe running on the shoreline? Anyway good dumpy.

>> No.53164140

>>53164067
I want to send hate messages to Nene through streamlabs (samefagging).

>> No.53164159

>>53164067
switching IPs wouldn't do anything. Samefagging on streamlabs is stupid because they can see the card details.

>> No.53164168

>>53163859
what do you mean this time? she's done the "ANNOUNCEMENT" clickbait thumbnail like twice before

>> No.53164213

>>53164028
we realy need some lua art with some chub and helo lua put your goodnight tweet please

>> No.53164224

>>53164168
yeah and she's done more subtle shitposts about graduations like 20 times

>> No.53164232

>>53163977
Very believable from Nene. Known Mori winger but didn't know about the first holo en graduation. Sure

>> No.53164294

>>53164224
LOL Nene is an unironical cunt. Holy shit.

>> No.53164339

do same fags still blame Nene for gen 3 is that why you try to force this rrat

>> No.53164376

>>53164294
calm down lua

>> No.53164384

Peony is mystas whore

>> No.53164393

>>53164294
keep going lua

>> No.53164453

>>53164339
I'm not trying to force any retarded rrat, I'm not even a real Nene anti, I just think making light of graduations in an industry where that's taken super seriously is in bad taste, even worse when you pretend to not know what you're doing wrong. feel free to call me a /same/fag or sister or whichever buzzword

>> No.53164463

Aletta plays league with random males offstream

>> No.53164469

>>53164453
it's ok because Nene is just that good

>> No.53164549
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53164549

pink angel food
>>53164480
>>53164480
>>53164480

>> No.53164556

>>53164463
>>53164384
post this in /same/ you dumb nig

>> No.53164561

urggg i'm really offended urrg i'm not even an anti and i'm offended
go write a twit longer fag

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