/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53058491
>Va*o
Is Nene becoming a whore now?

>>53058675
>now
If you only knew the half of it.

>>53058491
What kind of how quality bait is this

>>53059017
Someone mistranslated, on accident most likely, her stream last night and shit posters are running with it.

aaaaaaa towaaaa you whore what did you do to my pure idoruuuu

>>53058491
QRD?

Your first attempt got instakilled, you pathetic shitposter.
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Idol+activitities+don%27t+make+me+enough+money

>>53059196
>Nene plays VALO randomly while waiting for her mother.
>People brush it off as a one off.
>Tweets she was watching the VALO tournament and then did a VALO stream not long after some matches finished.
>Tensions slowly start rising between fans who hate FPS (75% of Holo fans at least on the JP side.)
>Does a weird APEX stream to announce her outfit with like 5 kills in one match or something
>People are confused why she chose APEX to announce it.
>Has a shill stream for VALO's new game mode apparently instructed by her manager.
>Plays VALO with the people who everyone knows they play off stream with various streamers and males and they think they'll try to get Nene involved.
>Fans suspect she's already doing it just by association and flip completely leaving comments and quitting membership

She then talked about it in today's stream:
> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.
> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.
> So she wondered what she should do to get such experience in other fields.
> Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.
> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.
> Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.
> She couldn't say that she would stop doing it (the supposed anti-idol stuff), but still wanted to convey her dedication to her fans.
> As a corporate VTuber, she cannot always do what she wants, and is obligated to "expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means), so she couldn't truthfully say she would stop doing it.
> "If you're not going to stop, then farewell, Nenechi." - received a lot of comments like this, from long-time members she knew the names of.
> Acknowledges that none of them slandered her or anything, just said their goodbyes and left.
> Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.
> Wants to try various new things, and she is required to do a lot of things from now on as well.
> Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.
> She feels that her fundamental dreams and activities have not changed, she still loves being an idol and participating in concerts.
> She just feels like it's expanded. But she also cannot say anything to people who feel betrayed by this either.
> Didn't want to discuss all this while the preparations for the Live was happening, so kept quiet, and it all came out.
So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.

>>53059568
At least educate yourself before you talk shit you stupid nigger

>>53059852
not reading. this faggot is lying anyways. kys

>>53059852
so nene is forced to do sponsored streams. why can't she just say that?

>>53059852
>Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.
That's your takeaway from this? Are you an idiot? How is
>I want to expand my content, which may sometimes include being in situations you don't like, but that won't change who I am and what my idol ideals and goals are
The same as
>I'm going to collab with the stars because I enjoy it, if you don't like it then o well

>>53060314
go back you stupid greynigger

>>53060383
because that faggot is lying. he’s been copy and pasting this same shit everywhere while tweaking it to sound as inflammatory as possible. nene just got butthurt some schizos left her rude comments after they got randomly matched against two holostars. literally only thing that happened

>>53058491
The only problem with that is valorant is a shit game for people who cant aim.
Play single player games like a normal person instead of western f2p multiplayer online live service slop.

>>53058491
Her idol dreams died when she got caught promoting all her music with stolen art.

>>53059852
>Idol fags getting blown the fuck out
You love to see it

>>53060638
Nene spent half her post-concert celebration stream crying about longtime members leaving her lol

>>53059852
>she said she cant earn a living on idol activities alone
why do nijipags lie so much?

>>53059852
That poster himself later said he mistranslated shit and corrected it, kys

>>53060932
Yeah, and it's impossible to timestamp it since Nene moved the stream to members only.

Is this about when nene, lap, towa and ayame got matched against astel in game?

>>53060638
>nene just got butthurt some schizos left her rude comments after they got randomly matched against two holostars. literally only thing that happened
That's not what happened
At what part does she say that?
https://youtu.be/tX8Bun8AUYQ?t=2023
She even ackwnoledges that they were polite
Maybe you are the one who is lying hmmmmmm???

i love nene and i need to repeatedly get her pregnant

>>53059852
Kill yourself

>>53060760
Shut up Iofi

>>53058491
This just confirm that every jp gen has their own la+

>>53061099
Make me, nigger.

Extremely low quality thread, move on.

>>53061004
That is where it started, yes

So she choose Towa route huh, well at least she's going to be fine since I think she has sizeable overseas fanbase that's actually OK with male collab or whatever
good luck Nenechi

>>53060770
So true! Only us sisters will remain to rule Hololive and we will be alone with Milord!

>>53059852
it's over

>>53058491
Is this T4U mogging CtW deflection thread then?

Ogey but what does her cunt smell like???

why is it always valoshit or apex?

Valo/Apex/OW could be some of the most oversaturated field when it comes to streaming. Every other flesh streamer and vtuber is doing it, and Nene picks THIS, to "expand" her content?
Baffling. Just another reminder to never donate to these whores because you will regret it sooner or later. A corpo vtuber will take a fat shit on her oldest most loyal fans for a ccv boost any time.

>>53061553
Because "fans" can only consume multiplayer slop

>>53061317
>I think she has sizeable overseas fanbase that's actually OK with male collab
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53061553
because they can meet boys there

>>53061678
i love 5ch larp

>>53061553
Look on twitch

>>53061552
At least try not to sound like the Lap anti, you practically sign your posts.

>>53060932
>>53060976
nice cope

>>53061617
wait she's not? I think she has some like actual paypigs from HK and KR

>>53061542
Like a perfectly ripened peach

I thought it was obviously because Towawa is giving her regular FPS injections offstream

>>53061807
I don't think I've ever followed Laplus or any HoloX girl in my life. I live in a small corner when it comes to Holo JP. It's Marine, Flare, Watame and sometimes Nene and Botan, with Botan of course being an exception because she is known as a FPS gamer and was from the start.

>>53061191
who in gen 0 and 3?

Valorant and apex have ruined so many vtubers at this point. Fuck EA. Also hololive sounds like a black company forcing the girls to do stuff

>>53061979
0 Roboco. 3 was Rushia off stream.

>>53062034
my robot wife...

>>53062034
>Roboco
She fucking sucks at APEX

>>53061552
Just shows you how retarded these "managers" are. The only holo that pulls viewers for those type of games is Aqua and that's because she is actually good at them, which Nene has zero chance of ever becoming. So dumb

>>53061441
>T4U can't sell out 2k seats despite live performances with multiple encores
>CtW sells out 6k seats with only prerecorded shit
face it, cover just realized what a goldmine they've sat on with the english branch for so long and are only now starting to capitalize; gen 5 has reached its peak idolwise and nene knows that her current trajectory is no good

>>53061991
>hololive sounds like a black company forcing the girls to do stuff
This.
I Still remember the Kanata minecraft event with e-celebs. Her manager is pure evil.

>>53062084
Roboco is one of my favorite Hololive members ever. Her voice and her ditzy personality make you fall in love with her in no time, but then when you see every other stream (almost) is some FPS shit, you tap out instantly. I loved her morning streams where she would just chat and make breakfast or her karaoke.

>>53062207
That was Pekora's fault. She knew what the event entailed and invited Kanata anyways.

Is this some sort of nepolabo schizo? First the Lamy threads, now Nene. I'm waiting for the retarded Polka and Botan schizo threads, I know they're coming

>>53061991
video games > idol shit
That said, valorant is not a video game. It's trash on the level of minecraft, just something that people play just to get views and exposure.

>>53062126
Yea these managers are retarded. They've literally ruined nene's career for nothing.

>>53062126
Managers are indeed some of the biggest mouth breathers within Hololive. I followed a JP chuuba that said manager forced her to do shit that they saw from other bigger JP flesh streamers, just beacause it was popular. It didn't fit into her persona or style of streaming at all but they thought it would bring views. Needless to say she lost even the little viewers that she had at the time (she was around 300-400 ccv).
No wonder so many girls lose the will to stream and dislike their managers. I think Subaru changed quite a few of them so far and she openly said that one of them was pretty bad.

>>53062142
>T4U can't sell out 2k seats despite live performances with multiple encores
Got a source on that one pal? Because there where people complaining about tickets selling out immediately, and I highly doubt you have any actual ticket sale data. The only actual numbers that exist are the ones showing gen5 free segment having higher viewers than the en free segment, despite them having 6 more talents

>>53059852
>>53060932
>>53060976
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbUidBH7fQ
Literally everything is true. Being EOP subhumans however you wouldn't know even if I posted this anyway.

>>53059852
>Tensions slowly start rising between fans who hate FPS (75% of Holo fans at least on the JP side.)
Nene has streamed Apex loads of times, why would they shit and piss themselves over a random sponsored Valo stream

>>53059852
Based unicorns, the ones here are just tsundere who stops watching for a week, sperg about it and then go back to his queen.

>>53062323
Why not both? Holo gamers is the perfect blend of idol and real gamer skills. Apex garbage is not a real game like Mario 64 is.

>>53062213
I feel the same. She's great and I like watching her, but I can only watch valorant for so long before it bores me.

>>53062488
No one in Gamers is actually good at video games.

>>53062370
Yeah cover managers are pretty bad. I feel sorry for the girls because they deserve a better treatment.
>Gura finds will to stream after god knows how long
>Management immediately bans the fucking game from streaming
Like, helloooo?
Management?
Do you have a brain?
Apparently not at all.
Fuck you too.

>>53059852
>> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.
>> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.
This is the real issue that people need to be upset about. What the fuck is this manager talking about. And, which other holomems have they been pushing this shit onto? FPS seems like a bad choice for her. Maybe they should actually find something good for her. Valorant has to be one of the most boring games to watch. They stand around in some buying phase only to get one-shotted within 30 seconds.

>>53062587
Korone is very, very persistent
that's what "good" means with retro games

>>53062285
meds now

>>53062374
All I see is a bunch of blubbering from her for inane shit. Timestamp the part that the copypasta is from.

>>53062587
Korone beat NES dragons lair. Shut the fuck up, also okayu beat dkc2

>>53062800
Korone is still playing jump king right now. She's been playing ... all day for me. It's basically endurance streaming.

>>53062658
>timestamp
>a 11 minute clip
Just watch the damn thing you lazy shit. The clipper even transcribed it for you so your subhuman EOP ass can mtl the thing.

>>53060770
And i love knowing that troons like you will never be a woman

>>53062598
Nene is an absolute autistic savant at board/puzzle games like Othello and backgammon, and at those kinds of parts in regular games. Just ridiculously good.
So hey, let's have her play The Witness and SpaceChem and shit! And for collabs, maybe a chess arc! Goofy checkers variants with other "dumb" girls!
Naaaaaaah—Apex.

>>53061553
My 2view indie oshi quit over a year ago as a vtuber after playing valorant a few times on stream. A week later she was playing with facecam on twitch to 3 digit audiences. I didn't find out she made the swap until a few months ago when I happened to randomly find her. She quit her day job from back then and is making enough money playing valorant a few times a week

>>53062142
the venue had been sold out you absolute troglodyte. only reason they didn't get a bigger one is because they've got hololive city in the same area so it was a package deal with that. T4U mogged the absolute hell out of CtW which was fan fun island levels of soulless

>>53062587
Mio and Fubuki are whatever, Korone isn't that good but she is persistent and don't rage(just scream sometimes for entertainment), but Okayu is good(only Botan and Aqua are above her in holo), she knows what to do fast, don't rage and she has a solid base.

>>53062285
They actually started with Botan and SF6

>He is literally incapable of watching a video game stream
Fucking brainless.

>>53062285
there's been a 5th gen schizo for ages. nene having a breakdown just gave him fuel. it's catalog faggots anyways but still sucks to see people kicking someone while they're down

>>53063152
>>53063210
Fuck, you're right. I completely forgot about 5th gen schizo. Perhaps a little bit of forced memory hole-ing. It's a bit unfortunate, but NPLB are a close-knit group so I hope they can help each other.

>>53062887
nooo you mega faggot I don't want answers I want draaaaaaama. Now spoon feed me so I can call you a shill when what you say doesn't match my narrative

>>53063210
>kicking people when they are down
I don't care about this "drama" but you kick people when they are down, is the only way you succeed in that, if you kick someone when they are in a good moment they won't fucking care.

Idc what she does as long as she doesn’t directly interact with males but she better hate like a 3 hour daily aim routine because I do NOT wanna see her drop like 150 acs every game

>>53063199
apex and valorant aren't video games they're lootboxes and season passes with a game attached

>>53061553
Blame the retarded zoomers who love that shit

Unless you're Aqua, nobody is going to enjoy watching your Apex shit.

>>53058491
TOTAL UNIKEK DEATH

based nene going full FPS cock carousel with laplus and towa, kanata is next

>>53063750
what are the managers hoping happens here? another susei towa aqua situation where they lose horribly and start crying on stream? sadly i could see that happening too nene

>>53062598
If anything Valo sponsorship makes more sense compared to the random anime games she get to shill. Nene played Apex from early on and kept doing challanges. FPS is nothing new to her.

>>53063977
>what are the managers hoping happens here?
basically, managers are like this guy>>53063944

>>53059852
kekkk i'm reposting this to facebook and many places, we can use this as an ammo to harass her

Gross Super Chat revenue: $1,422,838
Net Super Chat revenue (assume 35%): $497993.3
Debut date: 8/13/2020
Average net (pre-tax)/yr: ~$170,000.

Obviously she has other expenses like music production, 3D live studio costs, etc. Still, she also has lots of other income too. Overall she's certainly netting 6 figures in dollars a year.

I wonder what kind of lifestyle she has if she's running out of money.

>>53061553
I dislike them both, but would you rather prefer it was Dota or Lol instead? Because I don't.

>>53064832
I'm willing to bet that at least 75% of the talents have terrible budgeting habits.

>>53058491
>>53031351

>>53064832
uber eats

>>53065015
read the thread first retardchama
it's been posted already

>>53065125
>r-read my bait thread!!
No.

So much for holobronies not being schizos unlike the big bad nijinigs huh? Remember when you were mocking them for reacting negatively when a male chuuba lost in Mahjong to a female chuuba?

>>53059852
Hololive is fucking over wtf, if it isn't an environment that lets talents live off of doing idol activities what even is Hololive's value? I could just watch Vspo if I wanted cute girls playing fps

>>53064832
It's a mistranslation. She said she can't live like this, not she can't make a living like this.

>>53064832
She got tons of fucking beetles. That clearly a mistranslation...
Don't be a dumb faggot.

>>53065251
where is the bait you schizoid retard?

EOPs on this board losing their mind over bad translations never stops being funny

>>53064999
>Bunch of NND autists who never made it into mainstream JP entertainment suddenly finding themselves making respectable-tier entertainment industry incomes
Yeah, it's gotta be a shitshow. The only exceptions would be the Holos that were born to wealth like Lamy, Ayame, Reine and possible Irys. Any others?

who cares if it's a mistranslation

if i keep repeating it more people will bite and that's good enough for me :)

>>53063633
But enough about HoloEarth

>>53059852
I just read my machine transcript of this stream. It starts with her saying a lot about how tired she is and worrying about how she didn't do everything perfectly in the show. She talks about not having a specialized skill and wanting to grow and have one. (She tried to do orisongs and stuff but has had limited success there. One issue is that cover provides the crappiest songs for them to use. Look a the dreadful shit they've given to Irys.) It goes on after that, but I think that short clip may be lacking some context. She sounds mostly like a tired woman having a cry about not being good enough. Fairly normal shit overall. Dunno, if she starts the male collab shit I'll just stop watching her. If she spams FPS I'll get bored also.

>>53065289
so the hololive management being cunts and forcing her to play the zoomer dating app thing is true?

>>53064832
you are missing a ridiculous amount of her revenue from merch and salary and sponsorships. the entire story sounds like bullshit and insane retarded shit so I'll wait until someone posts something believable.

>>53065599
She likes fps games. She isn't very good at them but she likes them. She has turned up in laplus valorant collabs suddenly before. She isn't being forced to do anything.

>>53065599
they never forced her to do anything, they just suggested the sponsor since it came up. nene has always had an interest in fps since she's been guerilla playing apex since forvever. she just wanted to play valo with her friends but of course dramafags are gonna latch onto anything

>>53065554
Can you do me a favor and search the last letters of "Mac booth at Dunlop", backwards, on a search engine?

>>53065272
Wtf are you saying?
Being harassed by other fanbase because you won a game is completely different than being harassed because you took a decision your fans didn't like.
Both are autistic, but they aren't even comparable.

>>53065782
>Percutaneous transhepatic cholangiography
What's your angle?

>>53064539
the most SEA post I've read all day.

>>53065486
And they will still dare to victimize themselves when someone suggest flags should be enabled for this board...

I think anyone who chooses to stream Valorant or APEX for any reason should be bullied on principle.

>>53066128
dyslexiachama...

>>53065272
no one is harassing her nijimonkey she said it herself
the mahjong death threats are very much real though

>>53066276
Troon opinion

>>53066158
so? not like you can stop me :)

>>53059852
Huh, we have a Nene-schizo now?

>>53067453
i think mostly we have clipwatcher schizos who just search for new drama every day.

Another one bites the dust huh

>>53067453
which part is schizo?

>>53067807
which part is you not just watching clips to look for drama? you don't actually watch nene do you?

>>53067879
no need to watch stream, there's enough information there

>>53061553
>Why do they play two of the most popular and most watched games out right now that are easy to jump into?
I don’t know it’s truly a mystery

>>53068229
ogey. like i said, the clip lacks context. if you haven't worked out how common that is with clips you're a fucking moron. well, i already know you're a fucking moron.

>>53067334
I don't need to, malnourishment and lack of sanitation will do the job for me.

>>53067879
so no answer?

>>53062374
My nihongo isnt that good but I didnt saw any complaint about manager or she need open her horizon, but indeed she said about the idol thing and for be part of branch (Cover) she need to do something that she dont want even if she go against to her concept of idol.

So I think that >>53059852 is exaggerated only to make drama more big and isnt the smae that "kronii arc"

anon cant even do drama correctly

>>53068752
fucking kek

>>53059852
NENECHI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>53064999
>>53064832
IIRC many sports atheletes will go bankrupt after they retire. I bet this will be no different, and the sad part is even if they marry a guy they will likely eat into his money/savings too. E.g. Chco is know for maxing out her card on porn, Suisei maxed hers on gacha bullshit, Pekora is also a gambling addict, Matsuri blows hers on host clubs, Marine is probably going to start using host clubs if she hasn't already, etc.
The only one who seems ok is ironically Kiara who plans on becoming a landlord.

>>53071210
yes i've also watched clips from 2 years ago

>>53071210
the player unions seem to be a lot better about helping players not be idiots and just even the awareness of how much this occurred seemed to have smartened a lot of them up about it. of course a good amount of the lowest tier don't make enough money to retire on unless they had the most strict / safest / slightly lucky plans

>>53061951
FPS stands for Futa Penis Semen btw

>people post the clip of nene literally saying some of the things from the greentext
>she even cries and mentions people that will leave
>reddit defense force still acts like EOP's are making shit up
peak retardedation

TL;DR
>She wants to expand her content
>No male collabs is still an intact rule
>She still wants to be an idol and will keep participating in events
>she loves her fans
>Anon and >>53059852 this fag want to make an anti nene thread because a few faggots don't like her playing FPS
That's fucking it, nice fanfic retards

>>53072702
>ESL
>fanfic
Nicesu.

>>53072750
>has an hours long crying menhera attack over losing members and Polka has to save her from her very public meltdown

>>53072947
>Didn't point out a lie
Thanks faggot.

>>53072947
just say you didn't watch the stream

>>53062207
lol, no that was still Kanata's fault for not double-checking the event & also trusting Pekora>>53062277

>>53072750
>>53072837
>samefag trying to damage control
kek
probably the same retarded janny who tried to nuke the thread
what a pathetic faggot
why do you care even?
you pathetic faggot? kill yourself

>>53073279
Not janny, you're still ESL and thanks for eating Nina's graduation 2% chama.

>>53065599
You guys love to go with your 'manager/management forced the girls to do X' when there's plenty of evidence that shows otherwise. Management mostly suggests things, but it's the girls' choice whether to do it or not.

>>53073028
>>53073279
schizo camping the thread just to argue. just chasing today's 'drama'

>>53073616
>when there's plenty of evidence that shows otherwise
such as?

won't be a fanfic if more people believe it :)

>>53073822
>:)

>>53058491
>not supporting your cute wife playing Valorant
weak

>>53073822
nobody will remember this by tomorrow you no life faggot

>>53072837
r/hololive defense force. you do it for free btw. kill yourself retard.

>>53073972
oh we'll see

>>53073822
Return to plebbit, subhuman.

>>53072837
>Nicesu

>>53073766
Anon, if you have watched the streams, many of the girls have mentioned this on multiple occasions. They consistently talk about how their manager or management provides suggestions or advice without ever coercing them to do it.
Furthermore, it is worth noting that the management always seeks the girls' consent before initiating any projects or sponsorships. Miko and Pekora, for instance, are particularly vocal about this matter during their streams.
and Holos management aren't big numberfag, this mostly just Nene being menhera because she saw some antis post and some member leaving.

>>53074511
That is utter bullshit.
Kanata participated in a minecraft event becasue she was told there would be no e-celebs. So management lied to her. That's not providing suggestions. That's literally deceiving someone. Pure mental illness

>>53074511
>and Holos management aren't big numberfag
All corpo managers are numberfags. Their entire list of games doesn't revolve around quality but what will get the algo boost. That is why most bigger and even smaller corpo chuubas play FOTM garbage. It's just business.

I know she posted something for her members but I’m not one and sadly I couldn’t watch her stream today. That being said even though I know she got hate for the valorant stuff I think the main issue is that fucking game, the culture and the people associated with it. Even within hololive only one girl out the 5 girls who play it regularly hasn’t been found out chasing males off stream (if you take into consideration the ones playing a lot of fps is like 1/7).
The solution in any case is rather simple: stay the fuck away from valorant and fps. And try to stay away from the off stream male chasing holo zoomers. It’s really that simple. This happened because she’s unaware of the general sentiment holofans have towards valorant and fps; hopefully she’s aware now and can try to dodge that bullet.

>>53074782
holy black company. so nijisanji and hololive are both terrible shitholes?

This girl can't catch a break. You have to be some kind of subhuman to call her out and announce you're cancelling your membership just because she wants to play Valo. It's like these "people" don't even live in the same reality as the rest of us.

>>53075028
>Even within hololive only one girl out the 5 girls who play it regularly hasn’t been found out chasing males off stream (if you take into consideration the ones playing a lot of fps is like 1/7).
Who? I only know about Laplus.

>>53059852
>says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone
Does she buy a new porsche every month or something

>>53075111
hololive management is literally nijinigger tier.
there are some good people here and there like the one who got suisei on the first take, but majority are mentall ill feminists

>>53075742
Not watching IdolEN no matter how much you try, faggot, keep spreading lies

>>53075437
matsuri, shion, ayame and laplus are the zoomers who got found out. Towa and Rushia are the other ones who play fps. The only one who hasn’t been found out as of yet is aqua (and honestly given she’s exactly the same archetype as shion and ayame I don’t trust her a bit, but there’s nothing on her so this is me being cautious).
Nene gets along with Towa and matsuri who we all know what they do but at the very least they don’t really hide it and I’ve yet to see them trying to lure people into the male fps shithole.

>>53075571
It was more like "can't keep going on like this" but that too sounds overdramatised. Basically she had a woman moment and her choice of words suffered from it.

>>53059852
>Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.
Japan has a different culture with FPS games but this has to be the strangest path to a hololive talent saying they will no longer call themselves an idol. I feel bad for Nenechi and this idol purity spiral will result in most of hololive rejecting the idol label.

>>53074782
Kanata made that up after the fact as damage control

>>53075996
you dont watch holoJP anyways, mutt. what is this deflection?

>>53059852
Wow so this is basically Nene going full Kronii? Can't wait for the jp shit show when she collabs with male esport players.

>>53075571
Concerts have a long build up time before they happen (especially if she wanted to invest in something like a sololive) and covers cost money. Meanwhile doing a sponsored stream has a more immediate short term payoff.

>>53076339
I want to strangle you.

>>53075411
Members are the ones supporting your career, if your content is driving them away it is right for them to inform you.

>>53076328
Wouldn‘t that be good in the long term?
Real idol wannabes like Kanata or Suisei get to fulfill their dreams and stick with the idol label, while the ones who just want to have fun like Nene no longer gave false expectations placed on them.

>>53075437
you prefer they say nothing and just leave? How is that helpful? I wouldn't watch someone who switched to doing a significant amount of e-sports FPS as I don't like that content. That the FPS scene makes males a high probability just adds to that. People have no obligation to fund stuff they don't like.

>>53076808
Nene wants to be treated like an idol while not having to act like an idol.

>>53076926
Yep, and she also wants to collab with the stars. She already said this multiple times.

>>53076808
like all things, you can't have the cake and eat it too.

>>53075411
you prefer they say nothing and just leave? How is that helpful? I wouldn't watch someone who switched to doing a significant amount of e-sports FPS as I don't like that content. That the FPS scene makes males a high probability just adds to that. People have no obligation to fund stuff they don't like.

>>53077005
give evidences like clips or timestamp of stream.

I will trust post with the most replies whether it's true or not.

>>53075411
>It's like these "people" don't even live in the same reality as the rest of us.
If anything this applies to nene
She‘s top 0.01% regarding income in japan because her fans like her content so of course those same fans will complain if she starts going the fps slut route

>>53077116
Not gonna spoonfeed you.

>>53060770
*vt idolfags

>>53077279
>i don't know, i am a lying faggot and i made it up.
there i fixed it for you

>>53074511
> their manager or management provides suggestions or advice without ever coercing them to do it.
>>53059852
> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.
> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.

so which one is it?

So basically girl had a heart to heart talk with her fans because of some old fans. And retards forcing narratives, taking things out of context.
>s-she doesn't care about her fans
>s-she just want males collab
>[insert your shit here]
Holy Christ can you guys have some shame? At least pick someone who give no shit to her fans

>>53077743
the one that generate more drama sir

Actual nijinigger thread
None of her real fans care

>>53077761
She's probably the one in Hololive who treats her fans the best, so it's heartbreaking to see this

>>53075411
Maybe it’s too hard for you to understand but just replace “valorant” with “tinder”. It’s easier that way. Imagine the pure childish girl you like suddenly starts fooling around on tinder with a group of tinder addicts from the same company. While I believe nene really only wants to have fun with her friends in the end she’s a public figure thus she should be aware of the implications of playing those kind of games, more so when two people in hololive she’s really close with like matsuri and Towa got shit because of such games and the only fired hololive member to this date was fired after and outbreak which sparked from one of those games. There’s even other small corpo vtubers who got found out chasing males playing fps in Japan: it’s a really problematic topic for an idol to engage with.

>>53062207
Black for you white horned horses lol

>>53077981
Considering she go out her way to seek those long time fans, so yeah probably.

>>53077743
I don't know about you but I trust that the talent knows a little bit more about the inner workings of the agency they work for than some random anon on a mongolian basket-weaving forum.

>>53078014
Can you faggots stop parroting 5ch shitposts as gospels?

>>53078034
>It's ok to be an authoritarian faggot and force women to do things they aren't comfortable doing to justify my mental illness, which i convinced myself isn't actually mental illness

>>53059852
world's vaguest "yab"

>>53065599
>This one=forcing things

>What unikeks do=not forcing things

Disingenious.

>>53059852
I can understand why her old members would feel uncomfortable. FPS is the gateway to male collabs. I bet that's why Nenechi apologized for straying from the idol path.

>>53060635
Of course it's a fucking cumkek flooding the catalog with bait threads.

>>53078014
When will /vt/ stop relating everything with their cuckoldry obsession? For fucks sake these girls aren't even your actual friends let alone gf or wife

>>53076328
Good.
The white horned horse cabal's reign will crash and burn for they defy God's will.

As a certain rain shaman said: its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Bobby.

>>53077279
Yeah, feed me instead. Me who'd be excited for Astel finally getting to bant with his Oshi.

>>53077040
Its probably less than 1% of her actual income lost and she would never have even noticed if they weren't being annoying faggots trying to make her feel bad

>>53079595
male or female, vtuber or normal youtuber, their job is to be parasocial with their fans to the point they get money from them, they are not actual friends or bf/gf but they sell the illusion they are, which are what people are buying. you push contents your customers dont like, they complain, that is all.

>>53079928
calli and kroni merch sales show otherwise, long time members are worth a thousand non-paying fags like you, and money alone isn't always the only thing they contribute.

>>53078914
Sounds like what you mfs do.

>>53058491

>>53080585
Sounds like projection. Kanata wants to be an idol who doesnt collab with males. Management was the one who forced her to. These are facts. Cope.

So Nene is just a typical yes-man? Why doesn't she say no to her manager. There's a bunch of holo members doing whatever they want. La+ is Gen6 and is already doing whatever she wants.

>>53080843
Only like that because your cabal has a proverbial gun to most Holomem's head.

"They dont wanna collab because...they just dont, ok? Shut up, or gulag for you!"

That's what your ilk look like over here.

>>53081484
(Me)
And btw, the real idol culture does include males. And no, talking=/flirting.

>>53080162
Anyone who actually watches her would know that comparison makes no sense. Just kys instead of shitposting about Nene of all people

>>53081484
take your meds schizo
you are the one who holds a gun at kanata's head telling her to collab with males
you are the one who is forcing her to do things she is not comfortable doing
you are the cabal devil that whispers evil to her ear

Unichuds lose another one lol

>>53079928
>>53081863
So true! Now we get to pressure her to collab with our boys!

>>53059852
>Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.
>So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.
Those two sentences are mutually exclusive. The reason people got upset with Kronii is because she said she would do one thing and then did the exact opposite, hiding behind Cover while accusing fans of harassment. Here Nene is simply sad that some long-time members quit because of creative differences, and even says that she cannot blame them for leaving.

From what I know, Nene is a sensitive person who cries easily. She cares about her fans and wants to do right by them. That's to her credit. This is not a Kronii situation at all, this is just a sweet girl struggling to reconcile everyone's expectations of her. I'm sure that she will be fine, she just needs some time to collect her thoughts and work out what her the future of her content will be like.