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>>53029550L E G S
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>>53029550Recent clip numbers>>53023709>>53023741>>53023771>>53023815>>53023850
So it's all lap+ and town's fault....
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>82,832: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>59,062: Pekora (Hololive)>56,101: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)>54,824: Noel (Hololive)>40,311: Korone (Hololive)>33,766: Nina (Nijisanji)>33,431: Hololive (Hololive)>31,362: Pekora (Hololive)>23,018: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>19,484: Kanae (Nijisanji)>18,350: Miko (Hololive)>18,135: Kanae (Nijisanji)>16,773: Kronii (Hololive)>16,338: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,815: Mio (Hololive)>15,565: Iroha (Hololive)>15,089: Lize (Nijisanji)>15,017: Watame (Hololive)>13,630: Kiara (Hololive)>13,430: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,848: Subaru (Hololive)>12,381: Enna (Nijisanji)>11,519: Okayu (Hololive)>11,103: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,313: Koyori (Hololive)>10,298: Salome (Nijisanji)
>>53029625When is it not?
Holojp is turning into a crack whore house for he boys
Kobo talking about hanging out with a homo off-stream
>>53029414But I like her being my chocolate elf.
Woah Rika's first stream lost to Shiina's second stream. Grim for Idios.
>>53029655>JULY 2023 GOLDS1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 209,736 - Koshien Draft2) Subaru (Hololive) - 75,828 - Birthday Totsumachi3) Leos (Nijisanji) - 69,970 - Koshien Practice4) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 49,699 - Koshien Recap5) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 116,661 - Koshien Practice6) Lize (Nijisanji) - 111,373 - Koshien Practice7) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 82,832 - Koshien Practice>PER COMPANY6x: Nijisanji1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Ibrahim, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Nijisanji, Shiina, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY140x: Hololive32x: Nijisanji7x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER47x: Pekora18x: Miko15x: Marine8x: Subaru6x: Toya5x: Suisei4x: Aqua, Hal3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Koyori, Towa2x: Aki, Fubuki, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ibrahim, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shiina, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro
>>53029625Towa spends a shitload of effort trying to not involve other holos in her FPS unless they ask
>Lapshit can't get 10k even with leechingWhat went wrong
>>53029375>Replaced JP members with homos on new years>Streamer rust is now ok because homos are there>Weird Collab pushJust a coincidence
https://youtu.be/h2PbOnwjvBU
>>53029697multi pov
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *>7/7 DAILY TALLY33,766: Nina (Nijisanji)16,725: Kronii (Hololive)13,056: Kiara (Hololive)12,381: Enna (Nijisanji)7,626: Nina (Nijisanji)6,405: Amelia (Hololive)5,658: Baelz (Hololive)5,308: Pomu (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 20231) Vesper (Holostars) - 21,225 - Redesign Reveal2) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 9,207 - Karaoke3) Hololive English (Hololive) - 32,795 - Connect the World4) Mumei (Hololive) - 10,693 - Zatsudan5) Gura (Hololive) - 20,073 - Zatsudan (w/ Amelia)6) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,751 - Birthday Stream7) Nina (Nijisanji) - 33,766 - Graduation Stream>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Holostars>PER STREAMER1x: Gura, Hololive English, Kiara, Mumei, Nina, Vesper, Vezalius>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)6p: Fauna, Kiara, Nina5p: Baelz, Gura, Hololive English, Mumei, Vesper, Vezalius3p: Ina, IRyS, Kronii, Luca1p: Millie, Mysta, Shu
>>53029698I blame HoloEN for this.
>>53029686She's down to 35k for the end of the stream.Guessing she'll have the lowest 2nd stream by these numbers.
Who's going to be the next myth rituals poster? Will it be Kiara or Ina? Can't be Gura as cunny would scare them
>>53029742>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY137x: Hololive47x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER21x: Fauna19x: Mori14x: IRyS, Mumei13x: Gura12x: Baelz, Ina11x: Kronii10x: Amelia9x: Kiara, Vox5x: Mysta4x: Selen, Shu3x: Pomu2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Nina, Ren, Yu1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)206p: Fauna142p: Ina139p: Mori127p: IRyS119p: Mumei111p: Baelz91p: Kronii79p: Amelia, Kiara74p: Vox65p: Gura57p: Mysta50p: Luca34p: Shu31p: Selen19p: Ike, Nina17p: Pomu15p: Enna14p: Uki13p: Finana11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Millie, Yu9p: Vesper7p: Regis6p: Rosemi, Vezalius5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Roca4p: Magni, Vantacrow3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa
>>53029673what is that a shark?
buy an ad
>>53029803nijiseethe
>>53029731She was the NTRoberu poster from /jp/...
>>53029772They should choose Toru or Nozomi for the raw popularity, or Sophia if they want to bait newfags.
so Kobo went on a date with Fuma
>>53029683Btw. The hell were the Ai guys doing with Fauna last month?
>Cover increases the push for stars x live collabs at the same time they're increasing their focus as a company on concerts and merchBrave move
>>53027276Blue Journey 1st Live "Yoake no Uta" Concert MerchandiseEssentials Pack 1792 $71.00 $127,232.00 Penlight 547 $27.00 $14,769.00 T-Shirt 222 $27.00 $5,994.00 Jacquard Face Towel 134 $19.00 $2,546.00 $150,541.00
NijiKoshien streams are hilarious to see. It's like the chuuba suddenly becomes the top streamer in the world then becomes a shitter after a day.
>>53029832They would have gotten the same numbers, even maybe worse, since Rika is the resident baseball-er of the group.
>>53029793BONEBROS
Why can Suisei collab with males, play FPS, and be just fine though?
>>53029852I helped her create a family!
>>53029853Faggot
Blue Journey could be nothing but shitty MVs on that channel and it still would be worth it for these cute outfits I hope uninvolved holos still can wear it
>>53029625Pretty much and the increasingly more retarded management
>>53029925She doesn't rely on the holobox.
>>53029896Was that goose goose duck a split POV or only on Shiina channel?
Suikeks, your response?
>>53029925penetrated the normie sphere who don't care about thatshe is also the only one who can do that without damaging herself
>>53029852>>53029935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlstN9Ii7MVtuber, btw.
>>53029694This, it's the newcomers like Kobo and Laplus.
>>53029925Hoshiyomis are the most bandwagon fans. She's losing against Subaru even with rarity buff nowadays.
/vt/ should implement flags so I can filter every brownskin who replies to me
>>53029686Yeah her pacing was literally bad. Unlike Nui who started customizing uniforms and stuff right after loading the game she decided to do that after looking at the stats of the senpais, literally killing all momentum from the start. Also the game was literally stuck at May 1 because she spent like 30 mins pondering about practice orders. Now that she's advancing her playthrough again the number is recovering slowly.
>>53029935>Iyeah me
>>53029902Does it mean it is unironically over for Idios?
>>53029925She never panders to that side of the fanbase
>>53029989Taiwan
The 4 menhera pillars of Hololive>Nene>Matsuri>Shion>KoyoriHonorable mentions: Kanata, Lamy, Flare, Laplus
Checking to see if this post will get a guaranteed (you)
>>53030065Very nice country.
>>53030032Most likely because she is (kinda) new to streaming?
>>53030019go back to /int/
>>53029753>the side branch manipulated the ebin main branchI feel like I'm wearing a kippah at the rate my oshi gets blamed for everything.
Apparently the ones who left her membership didn't even say anything to Nene but she sought them out herself to check out why they left
>>53030039Huh?No, By current Niji gen standards, they're the 3rd most successful wave after Luxiem and what remains of Eden.
>>53030091the guy has been dead for awhile anon
>>53030079Haachama has them all beat in the menhera bowl, second only to the dearly departed Rushia
>>53030079When was the last time Matsuri did anything even remotely menhera-like?
>>53030079>Shion>MenheraWhat?
>>53030109Yeah probably can't be helped.
tomorrowthe actual popular demand!
>>53029925Long established history of content. She's had males on Music Space for as long as she's been in Holo, if not INNK. People who'd be filtered are already for that, and she doesn't play an excessive amount of FPS games during her streaming hours, even if those are fairly sparse. If anything, she's going to start losing fans from not doing a fucking karaoke in forever since that's what she has as one of her major draws.
Orange hololives are consist of menheras
>>53030145Her entire existence is one whole ongoing menhera moment
Now checking if this one will
>>53030170>Depresshion
>>53030079>ShionShe's a lazy brat who doesn't stream. I wouldn't call that menhera.
>>53030079ppt...
>>53030197thanks for reminding me about Kiara's stream!
>>53030145Out of respect she's a pillar. Besides the [REDACTED] she's been okay.
>>53030211that's not menhera anon
>>53030208In other words, you got nothing. Matsuri has lost her menhera card.
>>53030115Don't try to fool anyone, you are already wearing one right now, bignose.
>>53030079Forgetting someone, aren't we?
>>53030079Towa…
Amerimut status? Wolf warrior status?
>>53030208anon, she's 24 now.
>>53030237Matsuri has been feeling better now that Haachama is ghosting Whoreshikawa
/nene/ is melting down
>>53030273
>>53030282Imagine having to entertain the Chinese.
>>53030274She's just an idiot. >>53030276She's just on HRT>>53030252>being mentally ill isn't menhera
>>53030274Aqua is an autistic recluse, not menhera.
>>53029669>Kobo>in 2023
>>53030308
>>53030318How terrible
>>53030282Stop posting your literal 1 view Vtweeters.
>>53030079
>>53030065AIEEEEE DELETE DELETE
>>53029669I hope she does it. What happens after will prove once and for all what the homo effect entails.
All of this paid concerts made me remember as Suisei talked about her third sololive that was announced at the end of her second
>>53030348Anon, she refused to stream for over a year because she got mindbroken by the chinks and Apex autists to the point that she was having nightmares of turning on her stream and not having an audience, and then admitted this in a public stream. That's pretty fucking menhera.
>>53030079>Flareand you dont include Polka even in honorary, are you for real anon
It seems to me jp viewers are a lot more picky and controlling about what the talent do off-stream more than en viewers.
>>53029925Because she doesn't care what her fans think. The average personality loses 2 fans but gain 3 but for Suisei it's closer to 5 for every 2 lost. Her fans know nothing about her which is why things she's been doing from the start get the same reactions. Her popularity is essentially manufactured though it probably wasn't on purpose
>>53030337Menhera is mentally unstable, i.e. someone with massive mood swings such as Towa. A schizophrenic isn’t a menhera.
>>53030079Is this menhera?
>>53030414She already have. She hang out with Fuma in Japan
>>53029669no one cares about your 3k shitter
>>53030453Yes and she's my wife
>>53030079Amane "browsing 5ch during an offcollab" Kanata should be a main pillar.
>>53030480nijiseethe
>>53030423You fucking retard. Even perfectly normal people can buckle under immense social pressure.
>>53030453Menhera's get my dick hard and this did the same so seems like it
idolEN is using hololive to enter the youtube algo..
>>53029925because she isn't menhera like Nene
>>53030442Depends on the chuuba. Suisei will brush it off and dab on the haters like Mori and Kronii do. But if you chase after people that unmember, that's on you.
>>53030079No Kanatach?
>>53030488This. She used to print every SC she got early on and collected them. PPT is crazy.
>>53030519So how did they ass kiss or shit on Gura
Why fags are using Nene now for shitposting? i would leave my oshi if she started to play valo too btw, my hate for valo is that powerful, i wish she played csgo
>>53030519Of course they do, the ultimate leecher corp.
>>53030442the fuck are you talking about, nobody tried to control what Nene did, Nene is just that insecure she stalked her members on twitter in order to find out why they left
>>53030472Speedrunning whoredom.
>>53030437Flare has wild mood swings and goes into shutdown mode for days on end. Yeah, missing Polka is a huge L on my part but I stand by the Flare pick.
>>53030550Nene discussed it onstream. It has been talked about on JP sites for a while.
https://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33khttps://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33khttps://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33kTHREAD THEME
>>53030442seems to me that you're a seething homotranny
>>53030550because
>>53030550Homobeggars saw an opening and is doing their best to try and take it
>>53030581>he's jealous because he isn't japanese
>>53030488Yeah yeah yeah keep peddling this rrat
>>53030509Telling the fucking antis that they won and have power over you is absolutely, butt-fucking, retarded and literally the definition of menhera, which despite being used as a synonym for crazy in the West means embracing and popularizing your mental health issues for pity points and popularity, which Aqua was doing as she used it to explain why she stopped streaming.
>>53030442Yes, they are the true unicorns. Not the weaksauce cgdct bullshit.
>>53029375>>53029753I don't see any significant increase in homo collabs. If anything, HoloENs got it out of their system pretty quickly and there is barely a peep about any such collabs lately.
Wow read this thread only make me realize how resilient the bigger Holo are considering they have way more eyes on them at all time
>>53030655>I don't see any significant increase in homo collabs.Aruran?
>Put a skeleton in your manga>Get Mori to shill your productIt's that easy
>>53030548They said she was a great overall streamer and put her under the "possible wife/mistress" tag. Called her lazy too.
>>53030655Management can't force them to do anything. They can just quit or not stream. The last time they actually forced anything, Pekora instantly rat them out.
>>53030655Anon the TTRPG collab was just a few months ago.
>>53030519leechers ofc...
>>53030671Of course, only the tested ones can raise to the top. If Kanata is less menhera she already surpassed Suisei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-G1dq7BrQ0Beni 8k getting scared.
>>53029925Suisei's streaming number is already debuff from the poor contents. People just underestimate her popularity outside streaming.
>>53030655>falling for sister's homobeggar shitpostanon?
>>53030671Most holos are just mentally stronger. Flare would egosa, see bad shit, tell that dude to fuck off in her next stream then stream Ranch Simulator and laugh all night
>>53029669Didn't she say that she met him with a holo staff as a translator during the TakaMori offcollab
>>53030724>just a few months ago.anon if you think that's an increase in homo collabs I've got news for you
>>53030752Kanata would need something interesting about her first
>>53030671Just a few /r9k/ tourists. And whatever the JP equivalent to that is.
>>53030724Yeah, and? HoloEN is doing far, far, far fewer homo collabs than JPs are this point.
>>53030706>higher ups ask you to do somethingThat is as close to forcing someone as you can get. Not everyone is Pekora. Is it so shocking they use absolute wimps like Kanata and Nene to do this?
>>53030778She is producing music while deaf, just like Tchaikovsky.
>>53030706That's what I thought. This narrative makes no sense.>>53030724>a few months agoThat's a long time though.
>>53030706Pekora ratting management out benefit us but I wonder how much she got punished behind the scene for itI really don't like her getting herself in trouble just to fight a culture war or whatever
>>53030706>Can't force them to do anything>But here's this moment when they did thoughI'm sure Pekora exposing them changed something
Kek Kiara realizes how shit TOTK is for her channel. "For the sake of my channel I should move on"
>>53030811yeah and no one listens to it lmao
>>53030145Retard go check (one of) the side accounts she's on
>>53030789>absolute wimps like KanataShe literally did the Fubuki thing but with forced male collabs
>>53030789>Kanata>absolute wimpsThey lied to her.
>>53030786It's amazing how hard HoloEN pivoted from the original plan of integration. If it wasn't for the shill twitter people would notice it more.
>>53030816>how much she got punished behind the scene for itNot at all. How can they possibly punish her? She's untouchable at this point.
>>53030724where is my homocollab every week? fag, show me, you told me that there would be homocollab every week, do it, tell me, where are they?
>>53030448You got any proof of this?
>>53030789Nene isn't a wimp, she's smart and just got rid of any unicorns by crying about it publicly.
>>53030724Not even anti Homo shitposters remember Bae’s Barbie watchalong…
>>53029925because anyone who opposes Suisei's wishes or behaving is opposing her dreams, and that's one of her main things.
>>53030789Weird maybe my memory is shot but didn't she delay her stream for their shit?
>>53030864After the Miko/Mari suspension I think Cover realized they can't really do shit like that.
>>53030689Brook is worthless to the story. A waste of space.
>>53030864Anon Pekora ain't shit. They can still punish her without us knowing, like purposefully shafting her project and limiting her budgetWe wouldn't actually know it unless she told us. But the point is I don't like the possibility of her being punished for these dumb management exposing
>>53030886Proof: the loudest voice in his head
>>53030671They need to have a nerve of steel and calculative in their every action or they gonna crumble with each mistakes
>>53030789>Kanata>retard dont know that she called out her manager about lying to her
>>53030864They can let Miko rape her again.
>>53030912Because it's Bae.Literally no one gives a fuck about Bae. And even still that shit was still over a month ago. That's not weekly, that's not even biweekly.
>>53030886Of her growing faster than she loses fans or the manufactured popularity?
>>53030942Yamato was better
>>53030912Kek. Bae is so forgettable
>>53030951It's not like everyone wouldn't have noticed the ban. She did management a favor letting people know.
>>53031021Any of those>Because she doesn't care what her fans thinkThis too but I already know it's false
>>53031010You say that as if holo/homo integration wasn't the plan for HoloEN in the summer of 2022.
Flare is being autistic...
>>53030519Just have people spam do not recommend. It'll remove it fast.
>>53031031Imagine how people would have reacted if nobody said why they were vacating primetime several days in a row
>>53031061How the fuck did this comment come out of my replyLike what the fuck are you even trying to say
Wonder if MALES is investors pressuring Cover after Luxiem's success with the chinese, which retarded investors still consider a worthy market.
>>53031073That's just every Flare Ranch Sim stream. Its fun actually
>>53030706Sounds more like it's Nene's manager telling her to branch out cause she keeps stressing out about losing popularity.Her manager is retarded cause FPS in general will just cause her to start bleeding fans cause most Hololive fans hate FPS if it isn't a Holo only squad.
>>53031073Must be a day ending with “youbi”. What she did now?
I thonk I will kiss IRyS today.
>>53031010Then why were people shitposting about Mori homocollabs despite her collabing with Rikka in fucking 2021
>>53031138Exposing it was management prevented beggars from using the excuse that the girls were doing it to support dem bois out of their own free will
>>53031192Because Mori drags other people with her
>>53031165Funny that she was in a Holo-only squad for that Valo stream and it was the trigger for fans leaving, they didn't do it when she was playing solo
>>53031192What? I didn't? Also, that wasn't my point.My point was that no one on this site gives a single fuck about what Bae does, which is why no one would remember that collab. Even with homo shitflinging she never gets brought up, it's only when it's Mori/Kronii and MAYBE sometimes Ame.
>>53031235Proof next thread?
>>53031192Those were tourists and/or deadbeats who forget about the TT collab.
>>53031192Mostly because dragged Ame and Kronii into it. Nobody gave a fuck about her first collab with Magni either (or Bae’s Boomer vs. Zoomer), it was only after she decided to make it a recurring thing that people started complaining
>>53031165The only way to branch out and gain fans is unironically a Chinese learning stream. For Nene, specifically.
>>53029244this isnt EN, those are bad numbers for all 3 holos
>>53030519numbers are low? RELEASE THE HOLOleeching STREAM
>>53031165Botan is pretty much synonymous with FPS, and doesn't hurt her at all. Then again, she's not addicted to just one game.
>>53030308Hololive going VSPO route..
>>53031274>dragged>>53031263
>>53031291begone, insect
So how was mori's new outfit? I havent seen anything
https://youtu.be/tX8Bun8AUYQ?t=2023Damn, so I went through the section she talked about, and it seems like she will actually be changing up her content moving forward. Starts at around 34mins -> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.> So she wondered what she should do to get such experience in other fields.> Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.> Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.> She couldn't say that she would stop doing it (the supposed anti-idol stuff), but still wanted to convey her dedication to her fans.> As a corporate VTuber, she cannot always do what she wants, and is obligated to "expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means), so she couldn't truthfully say she would stop doing it.> "If you're not going to stop, then farewell, Nenechi." - received a lot of comments like this, from long-time members she knew the names of.> Acknowledges that none of them slandered her or anything, just said their goodbyes and left.> Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.> Wants to try various new things, and she is required to do a lot of things from now on as well.> Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.> She feels that her fundamental dreams and activities have not changed, she still loves being an idol and participating in concerts.> She just feels like it's expanded. But she also cannot say anything to people who feel betrayed by this either.> Didn't want to discuss all this while the preparations for the Live was happening, so kept quiet, and it all came out.So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.
>>53030079Noel is a bigger menhera than all of those, even if she manages to hide it as Noel
this looks like a fucking pokemon outift
Why did the homo collab for en suddenly stop.
>>53031325OK anon>because Mori gently invited Ame and Kronii.The criticism is Mori making it a recurring thing, not just the fact she has guests
>>53031263>>53031325are these deadbeats?
>>53031305because she's good at games
>>53029989>Yuka posts get deleted>Kson can have whole threads about herFucking vshojo mods
>>53031274>draggedKronii said weeks before DbD she was happy to collab with the homos.Ame livetweeted Shiens 3D Live.
>>53031351Same thing as Okayu
>>53031351>Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.She is a fucking hololive vtuber, how the hell does that come into conflict?
>>53031331I legit think it is the way to go for her, not even a bug. You need a containment holo for bugs.
>Kanata: I will quit if Management ever forced me to collab with males>Nene: I can't even tell my fans the content they doesn't like would stop>Kanata out of action for months nowuhmmmm.... unicorns bros???our response?
>>53031446management push
>>53030423You admit that she got mindbroken and in the same post say she is a menhera. You are fucking retarded.
>>53031428See >>53031390, and you as well seems to be missing the reason Mori got flak for something Bae didn’t and even Mori herself didn’t even after her first collab with Magni
>>53031360Her tits are ridiculous, and not in a good way.
>>53031351>"expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means)It means Cover is seeing how popular VSPO is getting thanks to getting shipped with pro gamers and other males and wants hololive to follow the same path
>>53031351I still don't understand what exactly her fans didn't like and what the fuck is the problem with her "activities". She just sings, dances and streams video games. What's the conflict here?
>>53031204You know that the middle-upper management dimwits who pushed for this were absolutely FURIOUS that Pekora exposed them, 100%.
>>53031351Qrd?
>>53031390Goddamn Mori made Ame run a 3 week ENXIDXHomo Worms tournament, organise a like 8 person Astroneer collab and made Kronii organise the therapist stream with Vesper?Truly the strongest Holo.
>>53031351Sounds like her manager is a snake
>>53031508gay
>>53031351>Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.Ok this is bullshit. I fucking call this bullshit. There is a reason Gura, no, even Ame, doesn't really care about her number. They are fucking rich without even trying.
Popular opinion: Gura's October stream fest saved HoloEN's box.
>>53031351I have literally 0 idea what Nene or her fans think her being an idol entails because nothing has fucking changed in that regard. She does more idolshit now than she used to even.
>>53031428>Ame livetweeted Shiens 3D Live.why are you shitposting with this, want me to cum on you?
>>53031541>What's the conflict here?Nothing. Its all in her head. She's cute and retarded like that
>>53031552She did not, the only criticism Mori got with regards to Ame was when she asked Ame to fill in for an absent Kronii in a collab with Magni and Vesper.
>>53031351> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.based
>>53031568No you don't understand you need to play Valorant to get money and fame (lol)
>>53031487>management is forcing the talents to choose between male collabs or no streamThat explains Gura and Aqua absences
>>53031568she means her manager or cover not making enough and she is pushed to get a broader audience by expanding her content
Kobo went to Tokyo Skytree
Mio is giving a free bj to everyone interested in 25 minutes. Don't miss it. I warned you.
>>53031351Seems to me that it pretty much stemmed from herself. Her manager telling her to have qualities in other fields was absolutely valid, you can't be a one trick pony or your viewership suffers from monotonous content. The problem here is why did she even thought that playing FPS is a good idea for that branching out? She's fucking terrible at playing it, nor does she even show any sign of getting better at them.
>>53031396This is not a proof though
Aqua stopped streaming for 3 years because COVER wanted her to collab with males. Nene has barely been in the company for 3 years, she has failed as an idol
>>53031351So she's gonna become an apex/valorant autist now?She's gonna end up like Matsuri who basically lost most of her fans.
>>53031351>>53031534The thing about VSPO is that most if not all of them are talented fps players. Their ccv is tied mostly to how good they are at the game (and how good they are at networking), Nene doesn't have that, if she switch gear, it would unironically be over for her.
Come watch Mio sing ballads in her BJ outfit instead of this retardation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATj_A8V9nU
>>53031641>she means her manager or cover not making enoughCover made more money on that T4Y concert than they could ever make from Nene playing Valorant for ten years.
>>53031508With Oda this is to be expected
>>53031351if management or her think that getting more viewers means more money then they are more retarded than I though. She's literally chasing out the ones that actually spend money on her
>>53031656>free BJThanks, I already got my fill of Blue Journey earlier today
>>53031641Rumao who is the black company right now.
>>53031351If she did the pure only idol shit, without being funny, quirky, creative bug collecting, minecraft playing wife she would get like 2k ccv of pure idoltard audience
>>53031568ambiguos translation, it was more like 'can't keep up with'
>>53031711fucking based kek
>>53031487Kanata literally said she's on break because her throat is fucked up.
Oh we are in extra retard hours now.
>>53031629The other holos don't collab with males and they stream just fine.
>>53031706Management is retarded please understand.
So when exactly did this manager tell her to branch out? Because Nene played Apex 13 days after her debut.
>>53031351Nenechi is so menhera. Poor girl. She takes everything to heart. Just because you might not release as much songs as you fans want or stuff like that doesn't mean you are suddenly not an idol.
>>53030079>laplus not on the main list
>>53031711kek
>>53031351>Want to try new things = Play more FPSReally? Jap idea of diversifying your content is literally just playing FPS?
>>53031711Kek is this real?
This is the best stream today.
>>53031351>expand her horizonNene there are more games than fucking Valorant/ Apex to stream....
>>53031568>can't earn a living through idol activities alonethat's what you need to understand, holos are declining
>>53031541Most of her fan don't like a Valo Nene and Towa&Laplus-friend Nene.
>>53031752still better than 3k poorfags that wont even buy her merch lol
>>53031351All of this sounds fucking retarded as fuck and seems like genuine mental illness from literally both her AND her fans.
>>53031777Name one.
>>53031543Is there a clip of this somewhere?
>>53031766hidden suspension
>>53031823its just a shit list, Matsuri Towa Kanata and Lap are the biggest menheras in the company
>>53031801it's not about Apex, it's about homo/eceleb collabs
>>53031834Nene literally runs a ship with Towa and her fan artists love it, please stop acting like a minority of schizos matter
>>53031834her fans fucking love nenetowa
>>53031351if Cover debuts a new gen now I can guarantee you she will be the one with more losses
>>53031851The sapkeks' beloved oshi.
>>53031659Nene's real problem is that she doesn't have an actual regular collab group outside of gen 5. She has no unit. There's potentially that group with Miko and Mel but that is too infrequent and Miko herself is too tied in with Micomet and Shiraken to help.
>>53031870But enough about Nijisanji
>>53031351you made some mistakes I think, I'll wait for JP clippers or if God willing some competent en clipper
Btw this literally only happened when it is Holostars who got involvedNobody say anything when Korone got Pekora and FBK for a guerilla Apex collab matching again randos
>>53031922Dasupi bros... What happened...?
>>53031893So why are people leaving because she hasn't done any of those
>>53031897>minorityDo you mean the absolute minorities that leave in droves. Those that Nene knew their names of? Nene should definitely ignore them and incline by playing Valorant!
>>53031922She has Dasupi but she didn't invited them for her lives.
>>53031893It's not that, it's some fans not getting enough concerts and songs and those idol activities. Not everything is about fucking homos.
>>53031953Suisei and Towa abandoned her for Startend.
>>53031541They don't want her to play FPS, for some reason it turns female vtubers into boring FPS bots.
>>53031508imagine being this gay
If Cover is forcing the girls to interact with males why are all of the holosummer shorts pushing GFE with date roleplay?
>>53031351>So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.it's literally just a few loud retards a literal nothing burger, but nene mental is weak so she got hurt & blew this out of proportions
>>53031351>Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PLAY GAMESANY TYPES OF GAMESALL TYPES OF GAMESIT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FPSYOU DON'T HAVE TO JOIN FUCKING APEX/VALO TOURNAMENTS
>>53031958the writing is on the wall
>>53031487anon shes recorded her fucked up throat a few times
>>53031994Have you net seen corpos (and chuubas) trying to have their cakes and eat them too?
>>53031994cover thinks they can have it both ways
>mlpKOBO NO
So, to sum it all up, Nene had a breakdown because a few schizos in her fanbase are shitting themselves over nothing.Here's a sexy Mio, because she's streaming.
>>53031828What do you suggest they do anon. How would you expand her fanbase since it much easier said than done.
Guys take your fucking meds
>>53031967They aren’t leaving because of her being friends with Towa or Laplus, the people that are, are very much so a minority. I didn’t mention anything about her game choices retard
>>53031656My dick's stuck in a toaster though
>>53031987So they've been complaining for 2 years and only just now left?
>>53031870this is not niji en anon
>Cover is forcing holos that don't want to do male collabs to stop streaming wtf
>>53031987Nene enjoys FPS games even though she's terrible at it. Nekkos need a chill pill
>>53031994Because they don't. When will you niggers learn that Cover never force the girls to do anything? They are free to refuse if they don't like it.
>>53032050I mean there must be more to streaming than FPS?
>>53031351
>>53031897and those minority include her long-time member.nowadays no one like towa except her 10k kenzoku.
>>53031994Corporate power struggle. Some retard is pushing for males. Probably the Blue Journey nigger. Holosummer guy is giving us good shit
>>53031568stop eating up mistranslations
>>53032031that's not actually HER opinion, that is her managers/managements opinion
https://streamable.com/whedds
>wake up>she is streaming>be awake for 16 hours>go to sleep>wake up>she still streamingHolo for this feel?
>>53032045She's a female child, so it's ok.
>>53031987I mean it understandable, watching valorant are literally feel like brain drain.
>>53031981>DasupiSuisei is tied with Micomet/Shiraken as well as Startend, she doesn't have time to spend collabing with Nene.Towa is also Startend plus has a lot more going on outside the holobox.
>>53031706anon, nene means branching out, soon you will see her playing sf6 or starcraft or maybe joining a geoguessr tournament
>>53032032So schizos throwing shit then, got it.
You guys are as mentally ill as Nene.
>>53031749Anycolor clearly
>>53031922O'riends...
>>53032104Korone
>>53032061Cause it looks like she wants to ramp up FPS shit (and honestly, I don't mind Apex but Valorant is boring as fuck to watch).
>>53032099Izuru mogged Ayame so hard she disconnected her game.
>>53032104Kaela
>>53032091This. Fucking this. Too much shit. Too many events.
>>53032092Learn english before you reply to me next time
>>53032045target audience
>>53032091Kek he is a newfag. Nene has been an unstable menhera like this since forever.
>>53032122Welcome to 4ch
>>53032031if your advice was this easy, i would had been the richest man now because i chose to be not poor.
>>53032045Abayo
>>53031553Just like Kanata's
>>53032174Yeah, even Yagoo is noticeably stressed.
>>53031958Probably because of the homo Apex stream drama, saying that you never interact with homos is something that you really need to stand you ground for
Isn't Korone SF tournament is exactly the same thing? Trying to attach holos to e-celebs? And it worked and this thread was celebrating this. Oh god, we're doomed.
>>53031994>If Cover is forcing the girlshttps://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168It's even in english just for you
>>53032045She a girl, which actually normal for it.
>>53031351>Too "limiting" to be an idol >Two most popular holos are Miko and Pekora, both of whom do almost no FPS content and no homo collabsI don't understand what she means at all
>>53031351Doesn't look like a Kronii arc at all.Kronii got there because she didn't care and did whatever, then was surprised some fans weren't just memeing.Nene cares A LOT, way too much and it reflects on her fanbase.I didn't believe anyone followed Nene just for the idol shit, because she hasn't really improved in these 3 years despite constant efforts, but her comedy is great.Then again, there's a divide between JP idol fans who like to pigeon hold girls into their designated stereotypes and the EN stream watcher, so there's a lot about other JP members I wasn't aware of. If that IS the case, than they are limiting going forward in her career and won't support her struggles. Let them go.>Member post 1 hour agoJesusu Nene, go to bed>It's used nose tissueKeklmao.
>>53031351this is what IPO does to Hololive
>>53032211abayo means "horse" in Filipino.
>>53032217this thread was fucking bored out of that shit tournament, at best
>>53032234>Miko and Pekora,>no homo collabsReally anon?
>>53032234Cover management has a different perspective on things. If they really valued the "girls-only feel" of hololive they wouldn't be trying to insert holostars so hard.
>>53032101No that one is her own opinion
just pure sadness... I hate EN management
>>53031351>youtube is culling them to force male collabsFucking evil
>>53032234Anon Pekora literally collab with e-celeb already, even if it was for official programs of Minecraft
>>53032031Nene actually was doing really well with pre primetime stuff a few months ago, and and so was Kanata with her souls game. Also Rushia in that slot before she were terminated-hold on, what's with this pattern?
>>53032104Kaela, too bad she also busy.
>>53032252I think she just doesn't know how to diversify her content and thought of FPS. That's all
>>53032252Nene cares too much. She is a raw nerve.
>>53032069Isn't that the core problem? She wants to play FPS because she likes them, but she fucking sucks at it. Nekkos don't want her to play FPS for whatever reason they have, nor do tourists even watch her because she fucking sucks. Now she's getting full menhera because both aren't coming to watch her but still insists on playing them, which in turn will cause her to go menhera even more because the loop will keep on going.
>>53032217Nene is so volatile she's the last person I'd rest controversy on. Why not use Chloe? She's kind of a nutter that can't recognize faces but she can handle it.
>>53031922They tried to force her into Dasupi and NEGIU for Idolshit, she just isnt popular enoughLook what happened when Aqua stole her group mates
>>53032252How does her snoot look like? Big dry pieces or pure liquid?
>>53032303Oh fuck off you inebriated faggot
>>53032135She started playing Valorant a year ago and has streamed it a total of 5 times. Ramp up lol
>>53032303That's not playing valorent 20 times a month.
>calls all her fans "husbando">surprised her fans don't like a game where she would need to interact with ecelebsWow it is like rocket science no one understand what happened here.
>>53031351She need to learn to say no to manager like her senpai especially Suisei..
>>53032234reads like a management argumentnone of the girls think to themselves "maybe I am too limited in my content"
>>53032303I didn't heard any males voice tho?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySACB_aVAEgrowing at 100k+ a day. that's way too fast
>Rushia dominates 18 JST before she was kicked out>Kanata took her slot and became unicorn queen>Nene took her slot and gets decent unicorn focusITS THE CURSE
>>53032272I liked when Korone beat Kuzuha even with his fleshstreamer buff.
>>53032338She's not particularly in love with FPS, she only started playing it because APEX is one of the vtuber mainstays.
>>53032303and where are her numbers now?
>>53032216it wasn't apex lol, you can't even get the game right
Why won't Nene just make a private server for her fans
>>53032401Mate if you follow gen5 for a little you would know she leaned hard on the GFE stuff like Lamy.
>>53032338Nene barely plays FPS anon. She doesn't play it outside of streams. She's not Matsuri.
>>53032376I'd let my wife play with random males on shooty games.
>>53032273Homo means Holostars anon.
>>53032354Completely liquid since it was dripping constantly for an hour.Barely visible in the crumpled tissue.
>>53031987this is understandable, dragoons hate selen when she starts spamming apex like a bot, that's why selen got mad and decided to not stream them
>>53032376It's not even ecelebs, her fans never minded when she interacted with hige driver. There's just a bunch people who don't like holostars.
>>53032344Chloe isnt stupid, shes not going to spam FPS on her streamHell even Rushia saved the NTR Apex gameplay for offstream
>>53032448>why won't a Holo make a groomcord?The absolute state.
>>53032401Menhera curse?
holoan is quality
>>53032405Anon her apex with Mel is fun,Valo is a poison unless you are Ojou or RBC
>>53032405literally no one gets decent numbers with valorant and that's the game that has given her more troubles than necessary anon.it's not about 'mainstay'
>>53032045abayo anon
>>53032491Game server you retard
>>53032387i don't get this cover, what's so good about it aside ayame cute?
Mori has 100K more views than Gurahow do we recover from this /#/bros
Korone saying "oke oke oke" is kind of threatening...
>>53032505RBC is terrible at Valorant and Apex
>Cover literally spamming concerts nonstop>nooooo, they are FORCING girls to collab with MALES and stop being idols because um.. uh.. investors made them do it? It's profitable somehow? Nene had a menhera episode over pretty much nothing substantial?Sometimes I feel like anons here are trying too hard to wedge their NTR fantasies into reality.
>>53032049>So, to sum it all up, Nene had a breakdown because a few schizos in her fanbase are shitting themselves over nothing.basically this, I was too dumb to put it like that. /thread.
>>53032252the problem is that she cant live by en clipwatchers, the ones that actually spend money on her are 98% nips
>>53032045RIPStill waiting for Gura pony stream tho
>>53032459Except Apex is what gets her the most views so they're retarded. Like genuinely fucking retarded. She was always, since debut, the Apex dragon and FPS monkey. I don't understand how you can become a dragoon in the first place and not be ok with that
>>53032544/#/ in charge of counting VOD views
>>53032381Are you perhaps deaf?
>>53032505>>53032507I'm talking about why she said she picked the game up near debut, she's still under the impression that Vtubers can get popular playing FPS even now. And it's understandable why she'd get that impression when you look at Startend as well as how much mindshare someone like Laplus has.
>>53032528Private server for what? Apex? Valorant? They don't have dedicated servers. This isn't the 90s/00s.
HoloJP is becoming too big at this point, they need to slow down with the eventsEN3 when
>>53032544Anon, Mori's views are going down. She's below Okayu now.
>>53032387Ojou is that strong
>>53032436These fps games are all the same to me
>>53032563/wg/ is leaking out
>>53032544That’s 100 Million anon…
>>53032556But her ccv didn't decrease nor increases
>>53032513>>53032584Never have thought that posting unicorn image can get you bannedOr that anon delete his post
>>53032381Kanata...
FPS is basically for Vtuber who doesn't know what to do with their careerThat's why I hate it
>>53031871Wait, why isn't Matsuri in this?And I get Suisei and Azki, they have a lot going on but also, No Nene, Sora, Iroha
>>530320911. newfag2. having more work = more stressthat nip isn't smart...
>>53032513>>53032584Why is he getting a vacation? Is it from a member stream?
>>53032387>>53032538>i don't get this cover, what's so good about it aside ayame cute?Is there anything else needed?Anyway, I be there is an underlying connection between Ayame and Demon Slayer somehow
>>53032607WC3 FPS maps of course
>>53032613graduation tomorrow numbersis
>>53032303Nobody cares about that shit. They just don't want their oshi interacting with the homostars. Pekora interacting with some e-celebs in a one off promotional stream isn't going to spiral into the faggotry you see in NijiEN
>>53032306>Slot is empty>Someone streams in it and gets numbers It's not rocket science
>>53032597none on my oshi pov, not sure about the rest
>>53032405>>53032451Then can't she just let it go? She still got bunch of talents, like drawing for example which is pretty much dominated only by Marine in Holobox, why not try going that direction instead?
>>53032387So is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFiVQcwVY8&ab_channel=OkayuCh.%E7%8C%AB%E5%8F%88%E3%81%8A%E3%81%8B%E3%82%86
>>53032647Read the rules newfag
>>53032647Anon it's a global rule not to post ponies outside of /mlp/. It's why every single time someone talks about it on stream you get jokes about said global rule.
Nene has been having a hard time picking herself back up ever since the tracing incident. It kinda ruins her dense wife act when she was stealing someone else works. Since most of her original songs used trace artwork it put a damper on idol journey.
>>53032115Those games are all vastly better options then playing FPS games.
>>53032578>Nene>Former Queen of Taiwan and Princess of KoreaYou don't actually follow the numbers thread do you anon?
>A Female wants to do more things>MALEI still dont understand... this logicCan anyone explain???
Imagine constantly damaging your brand and the girls career for sub 1k male shitters that are hated by everyone
>>53032639>/wg/Wallpapers General?
>>53032664>management told Nene she didn't have the numbers for BJ>forced Nene to play Valorant and get her numbers up
I still think Nene is exaggerating and nothing will actually change
>>53032673Global rule 15
>Always stand right next to Pekora if they are in the same eventJoshu-kun? Explain this behavior
>>53032664They already have a shitton of members in it.
>>53032646that's what we call a good floor anoin
>>53032330management probably suggested FPS, heavily too. the fact that her manager is a female zoomer doesn't help
>>53032676surely this time
Beni getting a nice bump from Night security
>>53031834>and Towa&Laplus-friend Nene.so they hate hololive?
>>53032728the numbers inside your head are not real anonchama
>>53032693>drawingYeah... she used to. Then the tracing scandal happened.
>>53032613If Mori stopped getting any views and Okayu went up to 15 million a month she would still take 10 months to pass Mori.
>>53031351>>53031568Feels like a mistranslation. Compare this to something like Watame or Kanata, so I don't see how it could be a management push.
>>53032673Why would member only content get you banned?
>>53032749Am I blind or Sora wasnt there?
At some point I get bored of 3D lives, birthday totsu, or concert... Imagine the same content for three years but with variation of 35 (JP) some of ID and EN.Even watching Aqua RTA or GOI tourney are more exciting for me now
>>53032693(Me)Ah yea I forgot this happened >>53032710 so guess drawing is off the table.
>>53032693she probably wont touch it now since the tracing yab really spooked her since it happened right after rushia's termination.
>>53032758probably saw Ayame getting 20k with fucking Valorant and didn't factor skill issues
>>53032783... you really weren't here, you really don't know anything?When did you first enter the numbers thread?
>>53032729Cuckolds are worse than yurifags when it comes to forcing their fetish into everybody's faces.
>>53032478I meant for shilling shit. Her fanbase is fine with shilling stuff with anyone. She's smart and knows how to play people, she's the ideal public face. The only reason she goes menhera is because of her diseased brain, not because of mean comments.
>>53032676my bet is most of these deals were make when she was actually popular like Salome but now well your know...
>>53032693TRACE ON
>>53032590Nta, probably because she diversify too much.
>>53032476It's more about playing tinder offline than the stars.
>>53032710Imagine chasing away the fans who didn't care if you stole art and would still give you money all because you wanted to play FPS
>>53032815your oldfag larping is not an argument anon
>>53032803>At some point I get bored of 3D lives, birthday totsu, or concertMaybe it is time for mixed collab with HolostarsJP! You will definitely like this! Also more fps and fleshbags collabs as a change of pace don't you think is nice?
>>53032749She's horny and can smell a bitch in heat even if she's denying itMiko awakened something in her you see
You guys are protecting too much. Not everything is about holostars. They barely mater or show up on the radar in the Japanese fanbase.
>>53032749koyo is pekorr disciple
>>53032252>a divide between JP idol fans who like to pigeon hold girls into their designated stereotypes and the EN stream watcherExplain?
>>53032826>bet*cope
>>53032900This incident was specifically due to holostars tho?
>>53032810Solo FPS is cancer for anyone who wasn't originally an FPS autist.Reine's normal content was so shit that Valorant is actually a buff is funny to me.
>>53032563Read the above posts dumbass, it about content change.
>>53031822tell that to >>53031619
>>53032710Yeah. I was searching what the chinks think about Nene and this popped up.https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1646307862.A.507.htmlThat chink dropped Nene (1 year 5 months membership) for a 2view because of the tracing yab ruru
A reminder for all anon,VALORANT IS POPULAR IN JP AS A DATING SITE Stop asking why so many JP hate their Oshi play that games!
>>53032710I dunno, this is pretty damn dense of her. Could've commissioned one of literally thousands of Hololive fan artists to draw that instead.
>>53032923>extremely low quality post
>>53032234nene fears of recline and doesn't know what to do so FPS was the option that came to her mind
>>53032900we hate homostars here. i don care about nene, i just to push an agenda.
>>53032940What kind of content change? FPS?
Nene should do a beetle fighting handcam stream for maximum numbers. I swear thats an easy 30k stream. She has 50+ of those fucking things anyways
>>53032931What incident? Nene went on a menhera rant because some people got bored of her content because she didn't do enough idol activities. Watch some streams and not the thread.
>>53032935if you can't play an FPS by yourself, you lack the skills and time committedt. 5k hrs in tf2
>>53032976I trust my oshi so it doesn't matter for me.
>>53032900/#/ doesnt mind the girls collabing with people(even males) as long as those people professional and has good reputationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmnk_B8R2M&pp=ygUIbWlrbyBzYW8%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL77QoAtqSU&pp=ygUIbWlrbyBzYW8%3DAs a devoted MigoFAG, I yearn for more of this actually!
>>53033009Animal cruelty? Not cool.
>>53032912You ever seen Idolmaster?How each character has a "type/personality" written.Some fans expect all idols to conform to that, even virtual ones. Mostly since Idol groups do play into it.There aren't many, but they'll be vocal.And I think they should be dropped like flies if you want people to like you for "you", instead of some outdated stereotype they're attracted to.
>>53032957Tell that to some retard bait on 4chan? lol
>>53033009she was supposed to, but management shut that idea down. so yeah thank management for indirectly causing this homo yab to happen.
>>53032743No shit? lol
>>53032940Above posts are arguing that Cover secretly forces holomem to collab with holostars for some reason, which is what my post is about.
>>53032900>They barely mater or show up on the radar in the Japanese fanbase.Yeah and they want to keep it that way. Letting your oshi do FPS collabs with Towa and Laplus is like having your oshi collab with Mori and Kronii and being totally shocked when YABBA DABBA DOO man is suddenly horning his way in too
>>53030079Koyori excluded
>>53033009I think most likely the beetle streams were not doing that good which is why she dropped it.
>>53033064>baitlol
>>53032810>Ayame getting 20k with fucking ValorantWhat 20k?Ayame valo streams are fucking debuff and she sometimes even manages to go below 10k with them.
>niggas keep forgetting that in JP fps games are like dating app, where nips hit on girls
>>53033010She literally went menhera in her membership community over people getting upset at the Valorant stream, and that was the cause for today's outburst, why are you pretending it wasn't related?
>>53033043
You people should make your own Holostar's cuck fantasy thread
Come get healed by prime hag you faggotshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATj_A8V9nU
>Holofes>ID cafe>CTW>BJfuck sakes Cover slow the fuck down we still have 5 months left spread this shit out more, give wallets time to recover
>>53033120It hard to understand after all unless they live in eastern Asia.
>>53033082Holy retard
Watame...
I feel like there an absurd amount of spam of valorant this few week. Even reine spam valorant which is weird.
I'm getting BJ from Mio RIGHT NOW and all of you are basically stupid. I'm just hoping she's not going to throw up...
Not a spam, just dedicated fan full of hope.
>>53033164It's deadbeats deflecting that the One piece costume was disappointing numberwise and qualitywise.
How is Final Fantasy 16 from a numbers standpoint?Is it FOTM buff or JRPG debuff?
>>53033043unicorns, even in the old days before vtubers even existed, never cared about collabs with industry professionals and sponsorships involving males
>>53033200Mikosanji
>>53033120>doesn't mute VC
>>53033196Unironically Reine is Ame/Kobo’s fault
Reminder that the only reason Nene had her breakdown was because she sought out the ones who left her membership because they didn't want to make her feel bad by telling her that they didn't like her direction to her face.
>>53033178i love Blue Journey just for the fact that its abbreviated as BJ
>>53033082Towa’s only ever dragged Botan into interacting with men one time in her 3+ years streaming, Laplus never. You might be genuinely retarded if you think this would ever change
>>53033233cope
>>53033224jrpg debuff, though funnily enough it seems to be a buff for EN
>>53033123Yeah, that didn't happen though. Just saying it again in this thread doesn't make it true.
>>53033082Towa has been in hololive over 3 years and has never once invited a holo to a male collab.
>>53033120>LoL adc+support>ow mercy support>apex>now valo as supportThis is only the last 7-8 years, just because the nips skipped few of those steps years back doesn't mean that now they aren't in the pie face first, with discord to supplement also
>>53033200hope for... what exactly?
>>53033223Ah yes, /#/s thriving and vibrant population of deadbeats. That is definitely a thing that totally exists.
>>53033088>Koyori excluded>"I egosa'd 9 hours yesterday and these are the things that hurt my feelings HAHAHAHA">*desperately seeks validation*>*stalks fans on twitter, even ones with 0 followers*Mania is a side of mental illness
>>53033082That's fucking retarded dude. It's still up to the fucking talents. Gura and Fauna collabs with Mori and Kronii just fine and none of what you said would happen has.
>>53033259Towa didn't invite Botan to that, Botan decided to join on her own.
>>53033248Ok, maybe Nene is more mentally ill than the people in this thread.
>>53033248Wonder if we can find the ex nekkos tweet saying they left Nene
>>53033196Kobo and Reine watched the Valorant Champion's tour in Japan (equivalent of Majors in CSGO) and she had fun so she wanted to learn the damn game. They had VIP seats too because of Reine's connections (wtf actually?)
>>53033296>ritualpost>Suzy vs Mori>OMG it's 5M already>gen5 is a failure, here look at Connect the World
>>53033259Yeah, botan needed to be dragged. Like how Korone dragged her to streetfighter? She looked pretty happy to me.
>>53032234Are we forgetting hypno ojisan,skydiver ojisan and Minecraft e celeb males that pekora recently rubbed
>>53033237That only applies to Apex really, if you're playing mute on Valorant there's high probability you're getting flamed the shit out because the ping system there is still kinda shit and relaying information is vital.
Majority of people here can't even agree on wtf the problem is Nene is having so I'm just gonna wait to see if translations come out for her.
>>53033365Gokischizo is a deadbeat?
>>53033120https://youtu.be/dRAoVg7ecBMCase in point
>>53033357>had fun watching valorantshit shes confirmed retarded
>>53033233migo is literally TOP TIER chuuba. Who is your oshi? Enna or kyo schizo-kun?
>>53031351>>53031568That is definitely a mistranslation, she says "can't keep living like this" not in a she'll "literally stop living because she'll die without money" way, but in a "always playing it safe is no way to live" kind of way
>>53031568>>53032794https://youtu.be/tX8Bun8AUYQ?t=2229それだけじゃ生きて。。。それだけの活動で生きていくこともできないのはねねが一番わかっててIt's pretty accurate I think, how else would you translate this?
>>53033270Not sure who you're doing damage control for, but what happened happened. She had nekkos leaving her after the Valo stream and freaked out. You can literally go check the membership posts.
>>53033383fuck off ryeschizo never again
>>53033224Only subaru could get buff from it
>>53033401Hope she has good clippers and not oboretai-tier fanfiction writers.
Fun fact out of all hololive branchs holo en is actually the one who does the least male collabs.
>>53033357>equivalent of Majors in CSGOlol
>>53033396just have good DM and map awareness.
>>53031060>Gaining fans faster than she loses Compare her earlier streams to her most recent ones. Some old names won't be there. It's literally how it is for everyone in the world you don't keep 100% of your fans forever. And since first take she's been growing even more. You took common sense as an attack>Manufactured popularityKanata to miko to mori to startend with aqua not to mention how much holos try to sing stellar stellar. Made her a much more popular holo unlike the other great singers that fell behind. Manufactured but not on purpose she just likes them (mori might've been on purpose)>Doesn't care what her fans THINKYou can use template, the clip about gachis, or anything lewd related. She doesn't care what they think doesn't mean she doesn't appreciate her fans.None of these are bad and none of these are attacks unless you're a schizo.
>>53033237why would she? She's transparent, she's literally streaming for her fans. It would be worse is she got caught playing it offline with males as some chuubas did, nips had hard proof of that lol
>>53033464ryeschizo failed his mission but I'm different
>>53033388Any of those part of Homostars? Have any of them ever shown up in any way again and they were all completely isolated one offs that will never impact future content? Then I don't give a shit. Meanwhile the Kronies live in fear of the next time Vesper gets Kronii to blow him on stream
>>53033424watching the equivalent of world finals with VIP seats at the Tokyo VCT with the crowd going wild (really wild) would tantalize everyone
>>53033357>she had fun so she wanted to learn the damn gameSigh.. well if she actually enjoy it.
>>53033357Hope they didn't watch the final because that was bad lol
>>53033481I really doubt people like him will not seize on this to push an agenda
>>53032590they like normal apex streams, not tournament-obsessed apex streams
>>53033417That was funny. It was a chink pretending to be Korean.
>>53033401as if they're not arguing for the sake of pushing an agenda like the very same thing they accuse homobeggars of.
>>53033487DELET THIS
>>53033487That's because HoloEN is the branch with the least streams.
>>53033365Do you think people can’t tell when you try your shitty little routine. Did you think when you’d do your routine of -Magnim Opus status-post My Happy Transmission numbers-ree about deadbeatsPeople didn’t realise you were samefagging?
>>53033401>>53033481I wouldn't even translate it if I was a self respecting nekko. JP fans are already a blight, and EOPs are just as bad if not worse
>>53033487>counting the whole branchnow do it by percentage per branch
>>53033417>Nihongo jozu!That should've been his clue to disengage.
>>53031428>Weeks beforeSchizo
>>53033431I watch Enna and still really like this image.
>>53033461>>53033454
>>53033401Majority of the people here know what's going on, it's just a small minority jumping in to try and muddle the waters, pretending we haven't already known for weeks what the problem was. Stinks of some discord raid.
>>53033551Yes we are aware of your ilk
>>53033532For Reine Valo is buff.
>>53033388Do we need to get that scrub anon here to remind you.
>>53033417Are their women who would really meet with this random apex chink
>>53033487>no stream>therefore no male collabWoah Gura I kneel...
Why isn't Miosha exposing her armpits
>>53033530only if you are an impressionable retard
where's my number?
anon list out the JP you wish/don't mind them married.Mine is:RBCAzkiAKIMatsuriBotanLuiLaplus
>>53033547Scariest thing is that she said she was 16 and he jumped straight to asking for her LINE
>>53033564>Morischizo and Suzyschizo is the same guy pls believe meAre you even reading what you post?
>>53033461It's not about earning a living it's about living, as in doing something that is fun. The financial aspect was never brought up
>>53033417Matuli extinguished thath chink like a cigarette bud. She sounded so confident while chink dropped his spaghetti. She's really is a veteran at fps vc
>>53033513then stream a better FPS game?i don't know what to say bud.if both your choices are valorant and apex, and comms is a must, play something else.or she can play that new TDM mode they released don't needs comms for that
>>53033454She's vague as fuck but your translation is probably more accurate.
>>53033667
>>53033562>>53033653>JPcucks deflectingYou love to see it.
>>53033667FF16 is LITERALLY killing chuubas just like it's killing the franchise
>>53033585>Ratiocope
>>53033667Riku really just pumped and dumped her, didn't he...
>>53033674Any holo 30 or above for me.
>>53033454>always playing it safe is no way to liveWhy is she upset that people are leaving then?
>EOP thread try to figure out who's menhera or not but can't even figure out the origin of the termyou clowns are funny
>>53033602tempted to say based here, but it's enna..my brain ahhh
>>530336675k floor doko
>>53033652
>>53033522They're all homo doesn't matter if theyre called stars or not or even if its one time as long as they go out of their way just to be with them just like what pekora did
>>53033667>FF16MMOtard made a game that gets MMO number
>>53033667bots still in use. sorry lass
>>53033685I must've been fucking deaf, yeah she only talked about living...Thanks for the correction.
>>53033667The bots budget only for koshien stream.
>>53033662That's for the concert, she can't just make everyone cum already
>>53033758Women want to have their cake and eat it too, just like Squeenix and FF.
>>53033667sorry but bots are busy with Koshien
>>53031360Her head looks photoshopped
>>53033759t. menhera
Can you guys stop blaming apex when holo isn't the ones who started the fps = dating shit? Also nene has been playing apex sporadically way before this yab.
>>53033771Who do you think you're fooling, chinksister?
>>53033667T-this is live stream r-right, not premier again?
>>53033667koshien captains very near future
>>53033748fine then, JP is the branch with the most members that don't do homo collabs at all
>>53033454Correct me if Im wrong but I think the problem wasnt the unicorns preventing her from collabing with males. Instead her fans wants her to keep doing Idol activities alone rather than drifting her content to mediocore but new contentAm I reading it wrong?
>>53033818>/#/ watching streamsthere's your mistake.
Cover is scared of VSPO and getting baited into entering the FPS market more aggresively. Just like they got baited by Cumxiem into debuting Tempiss and killing their own international branch.
>>53033818apex isn't the issue though?valorant is what started the issue in the first place.
>>53033699well I don't disagree because I hate fps games, L4D2 being an only exception
>>53033667At this rate, by the time she get a pekora collab she already in 3view.
>>53033842I checked and it seems that it's live. Salami is dead
Astel should console nene at hard times like this. As her fans we would be happy
>>53033849>future
>>53033667>Salome has a 100k floor>Salome has a 80k floor>Salome has a 60k floor>Salome has a 40k floor>Salome has a 30k floor>Salome has a 20k floor>Salome has a 10k floor>Salome is a 4viewYou are here>salome is a 3view
very good thread he have today, no peko miko schizo, no suiseiastel schizo, and less bait overall
>>53033872youd think theyd have learned from Tempiss
>>53033461Alright got it so she's suffering from classic YouTube content creator monotony.
I love when people pretend to know what they are talking about. They look so retarded.
>>53033818Apex is tolerable since there's downtime ingame so theres time for zatsus but Valorant has no downtime when you're ingame so vtubers cant interact as much
>>53033771You don't make the rule sis.
>>53033928It's because deadbeats are distracted with Mori costume so they can't schizo up the thread.
>>53033898>As her fansYou dont even know whats the name of her fanbaseSister??? Want another Graduation???
>>53033928Huh? You didnt see the whole nene shitshow up there?I dont even know what they are talking about
>>53033677It's Chinese psyops against Korea
>>53033969I dont thats why pekora collabed with males
>>53033859Some of them, yes.There's a perception that Nene has been "slacking" in her idol activities recently. Less Covers, less originals, and less concert appearances (until Twinkle4U ofc).So that combined with Apex/Valo spam meant that some of her fans started to question her dedication to being an idol.
>>53033988Nenggas
>>53034025and that's why her numbers crashed
you can swear Japan only has 2 FPS games ever.there's Halo, CS, tons of other FPS games in existence and they only play those 2.imagine they actually play Halo custom maps created by fans (analyzed by cover) would be fun to watch.
>>53033758My use of quotations might have been confusing, to be clear, what she said was only that she "can't keep living like this", the playing it safe bit was just an exampleThe way she used it was in the context of needing to grow as part of life, guilt-tripping nekkos by implying that wanting her to not touch certain things is holding her back from living a full lifeAs for why she's upset, >>53033809
Did the one piece outfit reveal get 50ccv like the deadbeats promised?
Thanks for the paycheck with CtW, time to invest!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeAhdISZANk
>>53033667I no longer hate her since she's not a threat to pekora, she triggered me a lot, but I literally stopped hating her after she reclined lmao
>>53034070y-yeah, of course haha!
>>53034025Pekora is the worlds #1 vtuber, will NEVER do a homo collab and you will seethe.
>>53033928Cute mooms.
>>53034070I dont even know how it looks honestly, i just kinda didnt care
>>53034070If we lived in a world where everything is halved then yes
>>53034070damn i didnt know deadbeats were so pessimistic
>sawtooth graphWhat is this?
>>53033928I do appreciate the increase in Moom images the past few days outside of EN hours
Was it confirmed that people sent her marshmallows with complaints or was it that she knew the the people who left had sent her marshmallows before? Because "people" are claiming the earlier
>>53034071NIGGER can you not
>>53034057Japan loves their chuuni games bro, main reason why Apex and Valo is so popular. CS, Halo or CoD has no chuuni shit
>>53034107
>>53034107>no Robert collab everOhana......
Holos should play gunz.
>>53034133kinda fishy ngl
>>53034133bots
>>53034070No, They underselled it by 27341
>>53034140She's been adopted by the flips. She's their new Rushia.
>>53034060Basically like gaming YouTubers who used to focus on a single game wanting to branch out into playing other games to break the monotony.
Why are nekkos unloyal?
>>53034025Just not your homo, kek.
Holos with 1 BJ songBotan Choco Flare Korone Koyori Luna Noel Holos with 2 BJ songsAkirose Aqua Chloe FubukiKanata Lamy Lui Marine Miko Mio Okayu Pekora Polka Subaru Towa Watame
>>53034103>>53034121>>53034131nijiseethe
>>53030210>>53031917
>no holofan made a holo frag video.
How are we feeling today apexbros?
>>53034154IT'S OVER
>>53034147It's the former, she opened up marshmallows in a member-only post (so only members could've sent them) and told them to be frank with her because she saw all the negative feedback about that Valo collab.
>>53033585Holo EN is still under Holo Jp for male collabs >40% of Holo EN members had participated in a male collab.(Not counting sponsorships) >45% of Holo Jp members had participated in a male collab.(Not counting sponsorships)>88% of Holo Id members had participated in a male collab.(Not counting sponsorships)
>>53031934>Regular lobby with the world>Curated lobby with other personalities Totally the same
>>53034152halo has a samurai helmet and CS has anime weapon skins.
>>53034156Dead game actually.
>>53034133kek
>>53033959Valorant matches can take a lot longer than an apex match too
>>53034216satisfied after exposing the whores, nene included
>>53034216Is Suisei the best player out of those 3?
>>53034222What valo collab? The one where the homos suddenly appeared
>>53034107She already did and shes not number 1 in jp thats marine
>>53031832sus
>>53034216Why La+ has such shit numbers?
>>53031994Money
>>53034222>told them to be frank with her because she saw all the negative feedback???Of course people will air their grievances then
>>53034188i want to give towa another BJ...
>>53034297She's the weakest HoloX
>>53034045bloody morons, what do they think putting on a show like T4U needs?
>>53034297Embraced males recently.
>>53034246Tempiss mindbroke EN fans.The problem with EN is a raid or a mention is as bad a a collab.
>>53034311Towa's sent Matsuri to the hospital and left Bae aching in pain afterwards, I'm not sure you want that.
>>53034246>40%>Kiara>IRyS>Mori>Mumei>Bae>KroniiThat's 60%
>>53034297Dont look at her 3D numbers compared to the rest of holox
>>53034254But does it have dudes with flaming hands, dude teleporting using shadows, bearded dudes that split rock using their bionic hands. Japs live for that shit
>The sisters still don't realize "homo" refers to the homostarsShould probably lurk a bit more before going straight from the discord to trying to troll
>>53034154Damn nigga, my & my hood would precciate' if you tell down the picture, am not gonna axe you twice, you feel me cuz?
>>53034269Yes.
>>53034350>Kiara>IRySare?
>>53032810where exactly...?cuz it sure as hell wasnt recently
>>53032049>>53032569That's exactly right notHomobeggars cancelling memberships mean you're a schizo
>>53034386That's hilarious
>>53034368Cope
>>53034346on a second thought maybe shes fine with just two
>>53034350>Kiara>IRySnice try last samurai
>>53034368Always makes me laugh
>>53034368i use homos for both homostars and cuckxiem
>>53034246How "participated" is counted here?
>>53034337She touching the minister of tourism ACK
>>53033667All riding the koshien train today for massive stock incline. Salami can wait.
>>53034336This doesn't work with these 2 others.
>>53034269Somehow yesI thought lapu spammed fps, why is she so shit?
How is it that so many of the supposed unicorns here sound like some kind of bad parody? Almost like what you'd expect if BVTM was farming screen caps for a video... wait a minute..
>>53034350>Kiara>IRySMumei has been forgiven, so you can forget about her too
>>53034246EN did more collabs with Tempiss in 2022 than all of JP did with their homos.
>>53034395Kiara dragged IRyS to collab with some faggot.
>>53034436Its fine thats a female
>>53034297She blew up her own fanbase in hunt for cocks and fleshtuber pandering basically
>>53034445It does. They aren't recent.
>>53034350>shitposts>doesn't even include Ina who's actually done a homo collab
>Nene's drawing destroyed Aloe>Nene's tracing almost destroyed herself>now she is trying crash everything with no survivors with this valorant shitIt should've been Nene that graduated instead of Aloe.
>>53034476aruran exists anon
>>53034496Lmao pekora's 2million wish btw
>>53034451Other than flick aiming, skills from valo isn't really interchangeable with apex
>>53032803That's why Suisei's 3D live is interesting since she didn't limit herself to just Hololive for her guest. Her potential guests are the entire industry.
graduate whores
Flare is cute
I see 53pagpags are getting cocky today.
>>53034526I'm just replying to that guy. He did not count sponsorships.