/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>53029550
L E G S

chu~

>>53029550
Recent clip numbers
>>53023709
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>>53023850

So it's all lap+ and town's fault....

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,832: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>59,062: Pekora (Hololive)
>56,101: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>54,824: Noel (Hololive)
>40,311: Korone (Hololive)
>33,766: Nina (Nijisanji)
>33,431: Hololive (Hololive)
>31,362: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,018: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,484: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,350: Miko (Hololive)
>18,135: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,773: Kronii (Hololive)
>16,338: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,815: Mio (Hololive)
>15,565: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,089: Lize (Nijisanji)
>15,017: Watame (Hololive)
>13,630: Kiara (Hololive)
>13,430: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,848: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,381: Enna (Nijisanji)
>11,519: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,103: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,313: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,298: Salome (Nijisanji)

>>53029625
When is it not?

Holojp is turning into a crack whore house for he boys

Kobo talking about hanging out with a homo off-stream

>>53029414
But I like her being my chocolate elf.

Woah Rika's first stream lost to Shiina's second stream. Grim for Idios.

>>53029655
>JULY 2023 GOLDS
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 209,736 - Koshien Draft
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 75,828 - Birthday Totsumachi
3) Leos (Nijisanji) - 69,970 - Koshien Practice
4) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 49,699 - Koshien Recap
5) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 116,661 - Koshien Practice
6) Lize (Nijisanji) - 111,373 - Koshien Practice
7) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 82,832 - Koshien Practice

>PER COMPANY
6x: Nijisanji
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Ibrahim, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Nijisanji, Shiina, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
140x: Hololive
32x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
47x: Pekora
18x: Miko
15x: Marine
8x: Subaru
6x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Aqua, Hal
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Fubuki, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ibrahim, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shiina, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro

>>53029625
Towa spends a shitload of effort trying to not involve other holos in her FPS unless they ask

>Lapshit can't get 10k even with leeching
What went wrong

>>53029375
>Replaced JP members with homos on new years
>Streamer rust is now ok because homos are there
>Weird Collab push
Just a coincidence

https://youtu.be/h2PbOnwjvBU

>>53029697
multi pov

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *
>7/7 DAILY TALLY
33,766: Nina (Nijisanji)
16,725: Kronii (Hololive)
13,056: Kiara (Hololive)
12,381: Enna (Nijisanji)
7,626: Nina (Nijisanji)
6,405: Amelia (Hololive)
5,658: Baelz (Hololive)
5,308: Pomu (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 2023
1) Vesper (Holostars) - 21,225 - Redesign Reveal
2) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 9,207 - Karaoke
3) Hololive English (Hololive) - 32,795 - Connect the World
4) Mumei (Hololive) - 10,693 - Zatsudan
5) Gura (Hololive) - 20,073 - Zatsudan (w/ Amelia)
6) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,751 - Birthday Stream
7) Nina (Nijisanji) - 33,766 - Graduation Stream

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Hololive English, Kiara, Mumei, Nina, Vesper, Vezalius

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
6p: Fauna, Kiara, Nina
5p: Baelz, Gura, Hololive English, Mumei, Vesper, Vezalius
3p: Ina, IRyS, Kronii, Luca
1p: Millie, Mysta, Shu

>>53029698
I blame HoloEN for this.

>>53029686
She's down to 35k for the end of the stream.
Guessing she'll have the lowest 2nd stream by these numbers.

Who's going to be the next myth rituals poster? Will it be Kiara or Ina? Can't be Gura as cunny would scare them

>>53029742
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
137x: Hololive
47x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
21x: Fauna
19x: Mori
14x: IRyS, Mumei
13x: Gura
12x: Baelz, Ina
11x: Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Nina, Ren, Yu
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
206p: Fauna
142p: Ina
139p: Mori
127p: IRyS
119p: Mumei
111p: Baelz
91p: Kronii
79p: Amelia, Kiara
74p: Vox
65p: Gura
57p: Mysta
50p: Luca
34p: Shu
31p: Selen
19p: Ike, Nina
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Millie, Yu
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Vezalius
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Roca
4p: Magni, Vantacrow
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>>53029673
what is that a shark?

buy an ad

>>53029803
nijiseethe

>>53029731
She was the NTRoberu poster from /jp/...

>>53029772
They should choose Toru or Nozomi for the raw popularity, or Sophia if they want to bait newfags.

so Kobo went on a date with Fuma

>>53029683
Btw. The hell were the Ai guys doing with Fauna last month?

>Cover increases the push for stars x live collabs at the same time they're increasing their focus as a company on concerts and merch
Brave move

>>53027276

Blue Journey 1st Live "Yoake no Uta" Concert Merchandise
Essentials Pack 1792 $71.00 $127,232.00
Penlight 547 $27.00 $14,769.00
T-Shirt 222 $27.00 $5,994.00
Jacquard Face Towel 134 $19.00 $2,546.00
$150,541.00

NijiKoshien streams are hilarious to see. It's like the chuuba suddenly becomes the top streamer in the world then becomes a shitter after a day.

>>53029832
They would have gotten the same numbers, even maybe worse, since Rika is the resident baseball-er of the group.

>>53029793
BONEBROS

Why can Suisei collab with males, play FPS, and be just fine though?

>>53029852
I helped her create a family!

>>53029853
Faggot

Blue Journey could be nothing but shitty MVs on that channel and it still would be worth it for these cute outfits
I hope uninvolved holos still can wear it

>>53029625
Pretty much and the increasingly more retarded management

>>53029925
She doesn't rely on the holobox.

>>53029896
Was that goose goose duck a split POV or only on Shiina channel?

Suikeks, your response?

>>53029925
penetrated the normie sphere who don't care about that
she is also the only one who can do that without damaging herself

>>53029852
>>53029935

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlstN9Ii7M
Vtuber, btw.

>>53029694
This, it's the newcomers like Kobo and Laplus.

>>53029925
Hoshiyomis are the most bandwagon fans. She's losing against Subaru even with rarity buff nowadays.

/vt/ should implement flags so I can filter every brownskin who replies to me

>>53029686
Yeah her pacing was literally bad. Unlike Nui who started customizing uniforms and stuff right after loading the game she decided to do that after looking at the stats of the senpais, literally killing all momentum from the start. Also the game was literally stuck at May 1 because she spent like 30 mins pondering about practice orders. Now that she's advancing her playthrough again the number is recovering slowly.

>>53029935
>I
yeah me

>>53029902
Does it mean it is unironically over for Idios?

>>53029925
She never panders to that side of the fanbase

>>53029989
Taiwan

The 4 menhera pillars of Hololive
>Nene
>Matsuri
>Shion
>Koyori
Honorable mentions: Kanata, Lamy, Flare, Laplus

Checking to see if this post will get a guaranteed (you)

>>53030065
Very nice country.

>>53030032
Most likely because she is (kinda) new to streaming?

>>53030019
go back to /int/

>>53029753
>the side branch manipulated the ebin main branch
I feel like I'm wearing a kippah at the rate my oshi gets blamed for everything.

Apparently the ones who left her membership didn't even say anything to Nene but she sought them out herself to check out why they left

>>53030039
Huh?
No, By current Niji gen standards, they're the 3rd most successful wave after Luxiem and what remains of Eden.

>>53030091
the guy has been dead for awhile anon

>>53030079
Haachama has them all beat in the menhera bowl, second only to the dearly departed Rushia

>>53030079
When was the last time Matsuri did anything even remotely menhera-like?

>>53030079
>Shion
>Menhera
What?

>>53030109
Yeah probably can't be helped.

tomorrow
the actual popular demand!

>>53029925
Long established history of content. She's had males on Music Space for as long as she's been in Holo, if not INNK. People who'd be filtered are already for that, and she doesn't play an excessive amount of FPS games during her streaming hours, even if those are fairly sparse. If anything, she's going to start losing fans from not doing a fucking karaoke in forever since that's what she has as one of her major draws.

Orange hololives are consist of menheras

>>53030145
Her entire existence is one whole ongoing menhera moment

Now checking if this one will

>>53030170
>Depresshion

>>53030079
>Shion
She's a lazy brat who doesn't stream. I wouldn't call that menhera.

>>53030079
ppt...

>>53030197
thanks for reminding me about Kiara's stream!

>>53030145
Out of respect she's a pillar. Besides the [REDACTED] she's been okay.

>>53030211
that's not menhera anon

>>53030208
In other words, you got nothing. Matsuri has lost her menhera card.

>>53030115
Don't try to fool anyone, you are already wearing one right now, bignose.

>>53030079
Forgetting someone, aren't we?

>>53030079
Towa…

Amerimut status? Wolf warrior status?

>>53030208
anon, she's 24 now.

>>53030237
Matsuri has been feeling better now that Haachama is ghosting Whoreshikawa

/nene/ is melting down

>>53030273

>>53030282
Imagine having to entertain the Chinese.

>>53030274
She's just an idiot.
>>53030276
She's just on HRT
>>53030252
>being mentally ill isn't menhera

>>53030274
Aqua is an autistic recluse, not menhera.

>>53029669
>Kobo
>in 2023

>>53030308

>>53030318
How terrible

>>53030282
Stop posting your literal 1 view Vtweeters.

>>53030079

>>53030065
AIEEEEE DELETE DELETE

>>53029669
I hope she does it. What happens after will prove once and for all what the homo effect entails.

All of this paid concerts made me remember as Suisei talked about her third sololive that was announced at the end of her second

>>53030348
Anon, she refused to stream for over a year because she got mindbroken by the chinks and Apex autists to the point that she was having nightmares of turning on her stream and not having an audience, and then admitted this in a public stream. That's pretty fucking menhera.

>>53030079
>Flare
and you dont include Polka even in honorary, are you for real anon

It seems to me jp viewers are a lot more picky and controlling about what the talent do off-stream more than en viewers.

>>53029925
Because she doesn't care what her fans think. The average personality loses 2 fans but gain 3 but for Suisei it's closer to 5 for every 2 lost. Her fans know nothing about her which is why things she's been doing from the start get the same reactions. Her popularity is essentially manufactured though it probably wasn't on purpose

>>53030337
Menhera is mentally unstable, i.e. someone with massive mood swings such as Towa. A schizophrenic isn’t a menhera.

>>53030079
Is this menhera?

>>53030414
She already have. She hang out with Fuma in Japan

>>53029669
no one cares about your 3k shitter

>>53030453
Yes and she's my wife

>>53030079
Amane "browsing 5ch during an offcollab" Kanata should be a main pillar.

>>53030480
nijiseethe

>>53030423
You fucking retard. Even perfectly normal people can buckle under immense social pressure.

>>53030453
Menhera's get my dick hard and this did the same so seems like it

idolEN is using hololive to enter the youtube algo..

>>53029925
because she isn't menhera like Nene

>>53030442
Depends on the chuuba. Suisei will brush it off and dab on the haters like Mori and Kronii do. But if you chase after people that unmember, that's on you.

>>53030079
No Kanatach?

>>53030488
This. She used to print every SC she got early on and collected them. PPT is crazy.

>>53030519
So how did they ass kiss or shit on Gura

Why fags are using Nene now for shitposting? i would leave my oshi if she started to play valo too btw, my hate for valo is that powerful, i wish she played csgo

>>53030519
Of course they do, the ultimate leecher corp.

>>53030442
the fuck are you talking about, nobody tried to control what Nene did, Nene is just that insecure she stalked her members on twitter in order to find out why they left

>>53030472
Speedrunning whoredom.

>>53030437
Flare has wild mood swings and goes into shutdown mode for days on end. Yeah, missing Polka is a huge L on my part but I stand by the Flare pick.

>>53030550
Nene discussed it onstream. It has been talked about on JP sites for a while.

https://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33k
https://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33k
https://youtu.be/QlU76wEc33k
THREAD THEME

>>53030442
seems to me that you're a seething homotranny

>>53030550
because

>>53030550
Homobeggars saw an opening and is doing their best to try and take it

>>53030581
>he's jealous because he isn't japanese

>>53030488
Yeah yeah yeah keep peddling this rrat

>>53030509
Telling the fucking antis that they won and have power over you is absolutely, butt-fucking, retarded and literally the definition of menhera, which despite being used as a synonym for crazy in the West means embracing and popularizing your mental health issues for pity points and popularity, which Aqua was doing as she used it to explain why she stopped streaming.

>>53030442
Yes, they are the true unicorns. Not the weaksauce cgdct bullshit.

>>53029375
>>53029753
I don't see any significant increase in homo collabs. If anything, HoloENs got it out of their system pretty quickly and there is barely a peep about any such collabs lately.

Wow read this thread only make me realize how resilient the bigger Holo are considering they have way more eyes on them at all time

>>53030655
>I don't see any significant increase in homo collabs.
Aruran?

>Put a skeleton in your manga
>Get Mori to shill your product
It's that easy

>>53030548
They said she was a great overall streamer and put her under the "possible wife/mistress" tag. Called her lazy too.

>>53030655
Management can't force them to do anything. They can just quit or not stream. The last time they actually forced anything, Pekora instantly rat them out.

>>53030655
Anon the TTRPG collab was just a few months ago.

>>53030519
leechers ofc...

>>53030671
Of course, only the tested ones can raise to the top. If Kanata is less menhera she already surpassed Suisei.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-G1dq7BrQ0
Beni 8k getting scared.

>>53029925
Suisei's streaming number is already debuff from the poor contents. People just underestimate her popularity outside streaming.

>>53030655
>falling for sister's homobeggar shitpost
anon?

>>53030671
Most holos are just mentally stronger. Flare would egosa, see bad shit, tell that dude to fuck off in her next stream then stream Ranch Simulator and laugh all night

>>53029669
Didn't she say that she met him with a holo staff as a translator during the TakaMori offcollab

>>53030724
>just a few months ago.
anon if you think that's an increase in homo collabs I've got news for you

>>53030752
Kanata would need something interesting about her first

>>53030671
Just a few /r9k/ tourists. And whatever the JP equivalent to that is.

>>53030724
Yeah, and? HoloEN is doing far, far, far fewer homo collabs than JPs are this point.

>>53030706
>higher ups ask you to do something
That is as close to forcing someone as you can get. Not everyone is Pekora. Is it so shocking they use absolute wimps like Kanata and Nene to do this?

>>53030778
She is producing music while deaf, just like Tchaikovsky.

>>53030706
That's what I thought. This narrative makes no sense.
>>53030724
>a few months ago
That's a long time though.

>>53030706
Pekora ratting management out benefit us but I wonder how much she got punished behind the scene for it
I really don't like her getting herself in trouble just to fight a culture war or whatever

>>53030706
>Can't force them to do anything
>But here's this moment when they did though
I'm sure Pekora exposing them changed something

Kek Kiara realizes how shit TOTK is for her channel. "For the sake of my channel I should move on"

>>53030811
yeah and no one listens to it lmao

>>53030145
Retard go check (one of) the side accounts she's on

>>53030789
>absolute wimps like Kanata
She literally did the Fubuki thing but with forced male collabs

>>53030789
>Kanata
>absolute wimps
They lied to her.

>>53030786
It's amazing how hard HoloEN pivoted from the original plan of integration. If it wasn't for the shill twitter people would notice it more.

>>53030816
>how much she got punished behind the scene for it
Not at all. How can they possibly punish her? She's untouchable at this point.

>>53030724
where is my homocollab every week? fag, show me, you told me that there would be homocollab every week, do it, tell me, where are they?

>>53030448
You got any proof of this?

>>53030789
Nene isn't a wimp, she's smart and just got rid of any unicorns by crying about it publicly.

>>53030724
Not even anti Homo shitposters remember Bae’s Barbie watchalong…

>>53029925
because anyone who opposes Suisei's wishes or behaving is opposing her dreams, and that's one of her main things.

>>53030789
Weird maybe my memory is shot but didn't she delay her stream for their shit?

>>53030864
After the Miko/Mari suspension I think Cover realized they can't really do shit like that.

>>53030689
Brook is worthless to the story. A waste of space.

>>53030864
Anon Pekora ain't shit. They can still punish her without us knowing, like purposefully shafting her project and limiting her budget
We wouldn't actually know it unless she told us. But the point is I don't like the possibility of her being punished for these dumb management exposing

>>53030886
Proof: the loudest voice in his head

>>53030671
They need to have a nerve of steel and calculative in their every action or they gonna crumble with each mistakes

>>53030789
>Kanata
>retard dont know that she called out her manager about lying to her

>>53030864
They can let Miko rape her again.

>>53030912
Because it's Bae.
Literally no one gives a fuck about Bae. And even still that shit was still over a month ago. That's not weekly, that's not even biweekly.

>>53030886
Of her growing faster than she loses fans or the manufactured popularity?

>>53030942
Yamato was better

>>53030912
Kek. Bae is so forgettable

>>53030951
It's not like everyone wouldn't have noticed the ban. She did management a favor letting people know.

>>53031021
Any of those
>Because she doesn't care what her fans think
This too but I already know it's false

>>53031010
You say that as if holo/homo integration wasn't the plan for HoloEN in the summer of 2022.

Flare is being autistic...

>>53030519
Just have people spam do not recommend. It'll remove it fast.

>>53031031
Imagine how people would have reacted if nobody said why they were vacating primetime several days in a row

>>53031061
How the fuck did this comment come out of my reply
Like what the fuck are you even trying to say

Wonder if MALES is investors pressuring Cover after Luxiem's success with the chinese, which retarded investors still consider a worthy market.

>>53031073
That's just every Flare Ranch Sim stream. Its fun actually

>>53030706
Sounds more like it's Nene's manager telling her to branch out cause she keeps stressing out about losing popularity.
Her manager is retarded cause FPS in general will just cause her to start bleeding fans cause most Hololive fans hate FPS if it isn't a Holo only squad.

>>53031073
Must be a day ending with “youbi”. What she did now?

I thonk I will kiss IRyS today.

>>53031010
Then why were people shitposting about Mori homocollabs despite her collabing with Rikka in fucking 2021

>>53031138
Exposing it was management prevented beggars from using the excuse that the girls were doing it to support dem bois out of their own free will

>>53031192
Because Mori drags other people with her

>>53031165
Funny that she was in a Holo-only squad for that Valo stream and it was the trigger for fans leaving, they didn't do it when she was playing solo

>>53031192
What? I didn't? Also, that wasn't my point.
My point was that no one on this site gives a single fuck about what Bae does, which is why no one would remember that collab. Even with homo shitflinging she never gets brought up, it's only when it's Mori/Kronii and MAYBE sometimes Ame.

>>53031235
Proof next thread?

>>53031192
Those were tourists and/or deadbeats who forget about the TT collab.

>>53031192
Mostly because dragged Ame and Kronii into it. Nobody gave a fuck about her first collab with Magni either (or Bae’s Boomer vs. Zoomer), it was only after she decided to make it a recurring thing that people started complaining

>>53031165
The only way to branch out and gain fans is unironically a Chinese learning stream. For Nene, specifically.

>>53029244
this isnt EN, those are bad numbers for all 3 holos

>>53030519
numbers are low? RELEASE THE HOLOleeching STREAM

>>53031165
Botan is pretty much synonymous with FPS, and doesn't hurt her at all. Then again, she's not addicted to just one game.

>>53030308
Hololive going VSPO route..

>>53031274
>dragged
>>53031263

>>53031291
begone, insect

So how was mori's new outfit? I havent seen anything

https://youtu.be/tX8Bun8AUYQ?t=2023
Damn, so I went through the section she talked about, and it seems like she will actually be changing up her content moving forward. Starts at around 34mins -
> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.
> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.
> So she wondered what she should do to get such experience in other fields.
> Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.
> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.
> Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.
> She couldn't say that she would stop doing it (the supposed anti-idol stuff), but still wanted to convey her dedication to her fans.
> As a corporate VTuber, she cannot always do what she wants, and is obligated to "expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means), so she couldn't truthfully say she would stop doing it.
> "If you're not going to stop, then farewell, Nenechi." - received a lot of comments like this, from long-time members she knew the names of.
> Acknowledges that none of them slandered her or anything, just said their goodbyes and left.
> Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.
> Wants to try various new things, and she is required to do a lot of things from now on as well.
> Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.
> She feels that her fundamental dreams and activities have not changed, she still loves being an idol and participating in concerts.
> She just feels like it's expanded. But she also cannot say anything to people who feel betrayed by this either.
> Didn't want to discuss all this while the preparations for the Live was happening, so kept quiet, and it all came out.
So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.

>>53030079
Noel is a bigger menhera than all of those, even if she manages to hide it as Noel

this looks like a fucking pokemon outift

Why did the homo collab for en suddenly stop.

>>53031325
OK anon
>because Mori gently invited Ame and Kronii.
The criticism is Mori making it a recurring thing, not just the fact she has guests

>>53031263
>>53031325
are these deadbeats?

>>53031305
because she's good at games

>>53029989
>Yuka posts get deleted
>Kson can have whole threads about her
Fucking vshojo mods

>>53031274
>dragged
Kronii said weeks before DbD she was happy to collab with the homos.
Ame livetweeted Shiens 3D Live.

>>53031351
Same thing as Okayu

>>53031351
>Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.
She is a fucking hololive vtuber, how the hell does that come into conflict?

>>53031331
I legit think it is the way to go for her, not even a bug. You need a containment holo for bugs.

>Kanata: I will quit if Management ever forced me to collab with males
>Nene: I can't even tell my fans the content they doesn't like would stop
>Kanata out of action for months now
uhmmmm.... unicorns bros???
our response?

>>53031446
management push

>>53030423
You admit that she got mindbroken and in the same post say she is a menhera. You are fucking retarded.

>>53031428
See >>53031390, and you as well seems to be missing the reason Mori got flak for something Bae didn’t and even Mori herself didn’t even after her first collab with Magni

>>53031360
Her tits are ridiculous, and not in a good way.

>>53031351
>"expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means)
It means Cover is seeing how popular VSPO is getting thanks to getting shipped with pro gamers and other males and wants hololive to follow the same path

>>53031351
I still don't understand what exactly her fans didn't like and what the fuck is the problem with her "activities". She just sings, dances and streams video games. What's the conflict here?

>>53031204
You know that the middle-upper management dimwits who pushed for this were absolutely FURIOUS that Pekora exposed them, 100%.

>>53031351
Qrd?

>>53031390
Goddamn Mori made Ame run a 3 week ENXIDXHomo Worms tournament, organise a like 8 person Astroneer collab and made Kronii organise the therapist stream with Vesper?
Truly the strongest Holo.

>>53031351
Sounds like her manager is a snake

>>53031508
gay

>>53031351
>Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.
Ok this is bullshit. I fucking call this bullshit. There is a reason Gura, no, even Ame, doesn't really care about her number. They are fucking rich without even trying.

Popular opinion: Gura's October stream fest saved HoloEN's box.

>>53031351
I have literally 0 idea what Nene or her fans think her being an idol entails because nothing has fucking changed in that regard. She does more idolshit now than she used to even.

>>53031428
>Ame livetweeted Shiens 3D Live.
why are you shitposting with this, want me to cum on you?

>>53031541
>What's the conflict here?
Nothing. Its all in her head. She's cute and retarded like that

>>53031552
She did not, the only criticism Mori got with regards to Ame was when she asked Ame to fill in for an absent Kronii in a collab with Magni and Vesper.

>>53031351
> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.
based

>>53031568
No you don't understand you need to play Valorant to get money and fame (lol)

>>53031487
>management is forcing the talents to choose between male collabs or no stream
That explains Gura and Aqua absences

>>53031568
she means her manager or cover not making enough and she is pushed to get a broader audience by expanding her content

Kobo went to Tokyo Skytree

Mio is giving a free bj to everyone interested in 25 minutes. Don't miss it. I warned you.

>>53031351
Seems to me that it pretty much stemmed from herself. Her manager telling her to have qualities in other fields was absolutely valid, you can't be a one trick pony or your viewership suffers from monotonous content. The problem here is why did she even thought that playing FPS is a good idea for that branching out? She's fucking terrible at playing it, nor does she even show any sign of getting better at them.

>>53031396
This is not a proof though

Aqua stopped streaming for 3 years because COVER wanted her to collab with males. Nene has barely been in the company for 3 years, she has failed as an idol

>>53031351
So she's gonna become an apex/valorant autist now?
She's gonna end up like Matsuri who basically lost most of her fans.

>>53031351
>>53031534
The thing about VSPO is that most if not all of them are talented fps players. Their ccv is tied mostly to how good they are at the game (and how good they are at networking), Nene doesn't have that, if she switch gear, it would unironically be over for her.

Come watch Mio sing ballads in her BJ outfit instead of this retardation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATj_A8V9nU

>>53031641
>she means her manager or cover not making enough
Cover made more money on that T4Y concert than they could ever make from Nene playing Valorant for ten years.

>>53031508
With Oda this is to be expected

>>53031351
if management or her think that getting more viewers means more money then they are more retarded than I though. She's literally chasing out the ones that actually spend money on her

>>53031656
>free BJ
Thanks, I already got my fill of Blue Journey earlier today

>>53031641
Rumao who is the black company right now.

>>53031351
If she did the pure only idol shit, without being funny, quirky, creative bug collecting, minecraft playing wife she would get like 2k ccv of pure idoltard audience

>>53031568
ambiguos translation, it was more like 'can't keep up with'

>>53031711
fucking based kek

>>53031487
Kanata literally said she's on break because her throat is fucked up.

Oh we are in extra retard hours now.

>>53031629
The other holos don't collab with males and they stream just fine.

>>53031706
Management is retarded please understand.

So when exactly did this manager tell her to branch out? Because Nene played Apex 13 days after her debut.

>>53031351
Nenechi is so menhera. Poor girl. She takes everything to heart. Just because you might not release as much songs as you fans want or stuff like that doesn't mean you are suddenly not an idol.

>>53030079
>laplus not on the main list

>>53031711
kek

>>53031351
>Want to try new things = Play more FPS
Really? Jap idea of diversifying your content is literally just playing FPS?

>>53031711
Kek is this real?

This is the best stream today.

>>53031351
>expand her horizon
Nene there are more games than fucking Valorant/ Apex to stream....

>>53031568
>can't earn a living through idol activities alone
that's what you need to understand, holos are declining

>>53031541
Most of her fan don't like a Valo Nene and Towa&Laplus-friend Nene.

>>53031752
still better than 3k poorfags that wont even buy her merch lol

>>53031351
All of this sounds fucking retarded as fuck and seems like genuine mental illness from literally both her AND her fans.

>>53031777
Name one.

>>53031543
Is there a clip of this somewhere?

>>53031766
hidden suspension

>>53031823
its just a shit list, Matsuri Towa Kanata and Lap are the biggest menheras in the company

>>53031801
it's not about Apex, it's about homo/eceleb collabs

>>53031834
Nene literally runs a ship with Towa and her fan artists love it, please stop acting like a minority of schizos matter

>>53031834
her fans fucking love nenetowa

>>53031351
if Cover debuts a new gen now I can guarantee you she will be the one with more losses

>>53031851
The sapkeks' beloved oshi.

>>53031659
Nene's real problem is that she doesn't have an actual regular collab group outside of gen 5. She has no unit. There's potentially that group with Miko and Mel but that is too infrequent and Miko herself is too tied in with Micomet and Shiraken to help.

>>53031870
But enough about Nijisanji

>>53031351
you made some mistakes I think, I'll wait for JP clippers or if God willing some competent en clipper

Btw this literally only happened when it is Holostars who got involved
Nobody say anything when Korone got Pekora and FBK for a guerilla Apex collab matching again randos

>>53031922
Dasupi bros... What happened...?

>>53031893
So why are people leaving because she hasn't done any of those

>>53031897
>minority
Do you mean the absolute minorities that leave in droves. Those that Nene knew their names of? Nene should definitely ignore them and incline by playing Valorant!

>>53031922
She has Dasupi but she didn't invited them for her lives.

>>53031893
It's not that, it's some fans not getting enough concerts and songs and those idol activities. Not everything is about fucking homos.

>>53031953
Suisei and Towa abandoned her for Startend.

>>53031541
They don't want her to play FPS, for some reason it turns female vtubers into boring FPS bots.

>>53031508
imagine being this gay

If Cover is forcing the girls to interact with males why are all of the holosummer shorts pushing GFE with date roleplay?

>>53031351
>So yeah, Nene's basically going through her own Kronii arc.
it's literally just a few loud retards a literal nothing burger, but nene mental is weak so she got hurt & blew this out of proportions

>>53031351
>Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PLAY GAMES
ANY TYPES OF GAMES
ALL TYPES OF GAMES
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FPS
YOU DON'T HAVE TO JOIN FUCKING APEX/VALO TOURNAMENTS

>>53031958
the writing is on the wall

>>53031487
anon shes recorded her fucked up throat a few times

>>53031994
Have you net seen corpos (and chuubas) trying to have their cakes and eat them too?

>>53031994
cover thinks they can have it both ways

>mlp
KOBO NO

So, to sum it all up, Nene had a breakdown because a few schizos in her fanbase are shitting themselves over nothing.
Here's a sexy Mio, because she's streaming.

>>53031828
What do you suggest they do anon. How would you expand her fanbase since it much easier said than done.

Guys take your fucking meds

>>53031967
They aren’t leaving because of her being friends with Towa or Laplus, the people that are, are very much so a minority. I didn’t mention anything about her game choices retard

>>53031656
My dick's stuck in a toaster though

>>53031987
So they've been complaining for 2 years and only just now left?

>>53031870
this is not niji en anon

>Cover is forcing holos that don't want to do male collabs to stop streaming
wtf

>>53031987
Nene enjoys FPS games even though she's terrible at it. Nekkos need a chill pill

>>53031994
Because they don't. When will you niggers learn that Cover never force the girls to do anything? They are free to refuse if they don't like it.

>>53032050
I mean there must be more to streaming than FPS?

>>53031351

>>53031897
and those minority include her long-time member.nowadays no one like towa except her 10k kenzoku.

>>53031994
Corporate power struggle. Some retard is pushing for males. Probably the Blue Journey nigger. Holosummer guy is giving us good shit

>>53031568
stop eating up mistranslations

>>53032031
that's not actually HER opinion, that is her managers/managements opinion

https://streamable.com/whedds

>wake up
>she is streaming
>be awake for 16 hours
>go to sleep
>wake up
>she still streaming
Holo for this feel?

>>53032045
She's a female child, so it's ok.

>>53031987
I mean it understandable, watching valorant are literally feel like brain drain.

>>53031981
>Dasupi
Suisei is tied with Micomet/Shiraken as well as Startend, she doesn't have time to spend collabing with Nene.
Towa is also Startend plus has a lot more going on outside the holobox.

>>53031706
anon, nene means branching out, soon you will see her playing sf6 or starcraft or maybe joining a geoguessr tournament

>>53032032
So schizos throwing shit then, got it.

You guys are as mentally ill as Nene.

>>53031749
Anycolor clearly

>>53031922
O'riends...

>>53032104
Korone

>>53032061
Cause it looks like she wants to ramp up FPS shit (and honestly, I don't mind Apex but Valorant is boring as fuck to watch).

>>53032099
Izuru mogged Ayame so hard she disconnected her game.

>>53032104
Kaela

>>53032091
This. Fucking this.

Too much shit. Too many events.

>>53032092
Learn english before you reply to me next time

>>53032045
target audience

>>53032091
Kek he is a newfag. Nene has been an unstable menhera like this since forever.

>>53032122
Welcome to 4ch

>>53032031
if your advice was this easy, i would had been the richest man now because i chose to be not poor.

>>53032045
Abayo

>>53031553
Just like Kanata's

>>53032174
Yeah, even Yagoo is noticeably stressed.

>>53031958
Probably because of the homo Apex stream drama, saying that you never interact with homos is something that you really need to stand you ground for

Isn't Korone SF tournament is exactly the same thing? Trying to attach holos to e-celebs? And it worked and this thread was celebrating this. Oh god, we're doomed.

>>53031994
>If Cover is forcing the girls
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168
It's even in english just for you

>>53032045
She a girl, which actually normal for it.

>>53031351
>Too "limiting" to be an idol
>Two most popular holos are Miko and Pekora, both of whom do almost no FPS content and no homo collabs
I don't understand what she means at all

>>53031351
Doesn't look like a Kronii arc at all.
Kronii got there because she didn't care and did whatever, then was surprised some fans weren't just memeing.

Nene cares A LOT, way too much and it reflects on her fanbase.
I didn't believe anyone followed Nene just for the idol shit, because she hasn't really improved in these 3 years despite constant efforts, but her comedy is great.
Then again, there's a divide between JP idol fans who like to pigeon hold girls into their designated stereotypes and the EN stream watcher, so there's a lot about other JP members I wasn't aware of.
If that IS the case, than they are limiting going forward in her career and won't support her struggles. Let them go.

>Member post 1 hour ago
Jesusu Nene, go to bed
>It's used nose tissue
Keklmao.

>>53031351
this is what IPO does to Hololive

>>53032211
abayo means "horse" in Filipino.

>>53032217
this thread was fucking bored out of that shit tournament, at best

>>53032234
>Miko and Pekora,
>no homo collabs
Really anon?

>>53032234
Cover management has a different perspective on things. If they really valued the "girls-only feel" of hololive they wouldn't be trying to insert holostars so hard.

>>53032101
No that one is her own opinion

just pure sadness... I hate EN management

>>53031351
>youtube is culling them to force male collabs
Fucking evil

>>53032234
Anon Pekora literally collab with e-celeb already, even if it was for official programs of Minecraft

>>53032031
Nene actually was doing really well with pre primetime stuff a few months ago, and and so was Kanata with her souls game.
Also Rushia in that slot before she were terminated-
hold on, what's with this pattern?

>>53032104
Kaela, too bad she also busy.

>>53032252
I think she just doesn't know how to diversify her content and thought of FPS. That's all

>>53032252
Nene cares too much. She is a raw nerve.

>>53032069
Isn't that the core problem? She wants to play FPS because she likes them, but she fucking sucks at it. Nekkos don't want her to play FPS for whatever reason they have, nor do tourists even watch her because she fucking sucks. Now she's getting full menhera because both aren't coming to watch her but still insists on playing them, which in turn will cause her to go menhera even more because the loop will keep on going.

>>53032217
Nene is so volatile she's the last person I'd rest controversy on. Why not use Chloe? She's kind of a nutter that can't recognize faces but she can handle it.

>>53031922
They tried to force her into Dasupi and NEGIU for Idolshit, she just isnt popular enough
Look what happened when Aqua stole her group mates

>>53032252
How does her snoot look like? Big dry pieces or pure liquid?

>>53032303
Oh fuck off you inebriated faggot

>>53032135
She started playing Valorant a year ago and has streamed it a total of 5 times. Ramp up lol

>>53032303
That's not playing valorent 20 times a month.

>calls all her fans "husbando"
>surprised her fans don't like a game where she would need to interact with ecelebs
Wow it is like rocket science no one understand what happened here.

>>53031351
She need to learn to say no to manager like her senpai especially Suisei..

>>53032234
reads like a management argument
none of the girls think to themselves "maybe I am too limited in my content"

>>53032303
I didn't heard any males voice tho?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySACB_aVAE
growing at 100k+ a day. that's way too fast

>Rushia dominates 18 JST before she was kicked out
>Kanata took her slot and became unicorn queen
>Nene took her slot and gets decent unicorn focus
ITS THE CURSE

>>53032272
I liked when Korone beat Kuzuha even with his fleshstreamer buff.

>>53032338
She's not particularly in love with FPS, she only started playing it because APEX is one of the vtuber mainstays.

>>53032303
and where are her numbers now?

>>53032216
it wasn't apex lol, you can't even get the game right

Why won't Nene just make a private server for her fans

>>53032401
Mate if you follow gen5 for a little you would know she leaned hard on the GFE stuff like Lamy.

>>53032338
Nene barely plays FPS anon. She doesn't play it outside of streams. She's not Matsuri.

>>53032376
I'd let my wife play with random males on shooty games.

>>53032273
Homo means Holostars anon.

>>53032354
Completely liquid since it was dripping constantly for an hour.
Barely visible in the crumpled tissue.

>>53031987
this is understandable, dragoons hate selen when she starts spamming apex like a bot, that's why selen got mad and decided to not stream them

>>53032376
It's not even ecelebs, her fans never minded when she interacted with hige driver. There's just a bunch people who don't like holostars.

>>53032344
Chloe isnt stupid, shes not going to spam FPS on her stream
Hell even Rushia saved the NTR Apex gameplay for offstream

>>53032448
>why won't a Holo make a groomcord?
The absolute state.

>>53032401
Menhera curse?

holoan is quality

>>53032405
Anon her apex with Mel is fun,Valo is a poison unless you are Ojou or RBC

>>53032405
literally no one gets decent numbers with valorant and that's the game that has given her more troubles than necessary anon.
it's not about 'mainstay'

>>53032045
abayo anon

>>53032491
Game server you retard

>>53032387
i don't get this cover, what's so good about it aside ayame cute?

Mori has 100K more views than Gura

how do we recover from this /#/bros

Korone saying "oke oke oke" is kind of threatening...

>>53032505
RBC is terrible at Valorant and Apex

>Cover literally spamming concerts nonstop
>nooooo, they are FORCING girls to collab with MALES and stop being idols because um.. uh.. investors made them do it? It's profitable somehow? Nene had a menhera episode over pretty much nothing substantial?
Sometimes I feel like anons here are trying too hard to wedge their NTR fantasies into reality.

>>53032049
>So, to sum it all up, Nene had a breakdown because a few schizos in her fanbase are shitting themselves over nothing.
basically this, I was too dumb to put it like that. /thread.

>>53032252
the problem is that she cant live by en clipwatchers, the ones that actually spend money on her are 98% nips

>>53032045
RIP
Still waiting for Gura pony stream tho

>>53032459
Except Apex is what gets her the most views so they're retarded. Like genuinely fucking retarded. She was always, since debut, the Apex dragon and FPS monkey. I don't understand how you can become a dragoon in the first place and not be ok with that

>>53032544
/#/ in charge of counting VOD views

>>53032381
Are you perhaps deaf?

>>53032505
>>53032507
I'm talking about why she said she picked the game up near debut, she's still under the impression that Vtubers can get popular playing FPS even now. And it's understandable why she'd get that impression when you look at Startend as well as how much mindshare someone like Laplus has.

>>53032528
Private server for what? Apex? Valorant? They don't have dedicated servers. This isn't the 90s/00s.

HoloJP is becoming too big at this point, they need to slow down with the events

EN3 when

>>53032544
Anon, Mori's views are going down. She's below Okayu now.