/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52969089
Street fighter 6 happened

>>52969089
No ENs. Bad artstyle.

>>52969089
Nothing went wrong, it's a fighting game.

i forgot i downloaded it and never played it

>>52969089
Don't look up the stream trend players chart

>>52969089
Hololive is dying and I could not be happier. A garbage company that never got their comeuppance for axing an entire branch.

>>52970092
https://streamable.com/r957nj

>>52969089
Fighting games have an extremely low survival rate in the attention spans of gamers. Add on to the fact that it's essentially a small fighting game and people just jumped onto it for the gimmick and the flavour of the month bonus, and it was always going to end up this way. I mean, just look at how Multiverses was handled. You can't string your fighting game audience along, unless you're one of the big names, or you risk swiftly falling into irrelevancy.

>>52969089
Same thing that happens with 99.9% of fighting games - people try out newest fighting game, play it for few weeks at most and then drop it because it turns out they suck at playing fighting games.
HoloCure is mostly retard-friendly and its genre still has some popularity (but a bunch of people still got filtered by Stage 2).

>>52970092
Considering all the dirty laundry that got aired after HoloCN disbanded I'm pretty sure Cover managed to get rid of a ticking time bomb there.

>>52969089
Casuals play a fighting game just for a few days and the fgc fags just want make the 10840# tournament of Street Fighter 2, there is no winning with fighting games.

>>52969089
No EN characters so normalfags stopped caring.

>>52969089
It was always a SF6 waiting room.

Not playing a game made by Homofaggot lovers

>>52970793
You ogey?

>>52969089
Just another one of Fagoo's failed projects along with HoloShitty, Flop 4 You, and another predictable ass Holosummer.

>>52971288
Holy threadreading retard

>>52971250
I'm Ogey. I just don't like Homofaggot enablers.

>>52970092
>pomucrying.jpg

>>52970092
Use adblock before shitposting next time Zhang
I'm so glad Coco caused you fuckers and your entire branch to be purged

>>52971428
Whomst?

>>52969089
SF6 literally happened a fucking month later

Also the game having 8 fighters isn't gonna help, and it was okay. I think making Coco a playable fighter over any Sankisei was also a mistake

>>52970793
I think its funny that they had time to shove in those references, yet Sankisei and Yonkisei got treated like shit. Barely any mentions of Marine, Noel, Kanata, or Watame, but we had time for the homos? And they kept Coco?

>>52969089
that dude got weird with aki and cover dropped it.

>>52970092

>>52971288
Prime bait

>>52969089
I have zero care for standard fightan. Give me a Smash clone and then we can talk.

>>52970153
Based Tower, telling off the faggots that made her genmate graduate

>>52970092

>>52969089
Nothing went wrong. It's the lull between updates. There's still 100-200 people playing at any given time, so anyone wanting to do multiplayer shouldn't have a problem. When the next update comes out you'll see the player count explode for a few weeks again, then settle down to somewhere a little higher than the current range.

>>52969089
Is this art supposed to replicate jojo's?

>>52970092
that's still more than double dnf's player count and pretty close to actually good games like ggxx

>>52972809

>>52969089
Shit roster. Why the fuck would you put Aki and Botan in your game but leave Marine and Miko as assists? Or include the Vshojo chick but no Pekora?

>>52973080
hi numberfag

>>52973150
He asked why it died and that's your answer.

>>52972212
There are a few smash clones in the works. Two are named holoversus but they look completely different.

>>52973220
And like several people have said in this thread, this is a norm for fighting games no matter the roster

>>52972381
Ironic it's used to paint white people

>>52969217
>no ENs
and that's a good thing

>>52969089
>no boys
Good

>>52973080
Pekora is next dlc confirmed but the gsme is prob dead by the time she comes out

>>52973080
I get why botan and aki are in, but they had to have been developing for a few years to keep coco on

Roster makes a lot of sense once you realise it was made by Westerners and had been in development for around 2 years
>Coco was always popular with westerners
>AkiRose had that western saviourfag arc
>Ayame popular due to Hologra
>Fubuki and Korone no brainers
>maybe a shitty thing to say, but Suisei does lots of music, so you can oshi her even if you don't necessarily know a huge amount of JP
>Botan, biggest in the newest Gen at the time
It really is like a time capsule roster from 2+ years ago

>>52973080
The only trash pick is Coco.Aki and Ayame could be better picks, but aren't that bad.Botan is the best holo hire since 2020, don't know what you're talking about.

>>52970268
Multiverses was actually a bad game and many smash bros clones forget to study what makes the smash bros formula good. Nothing can save a fighting game with bad hitboxes.

What killed Idol Showdown is that it's an indie game and doesn't attract the pros at all, who make the fighting game living. Go tell a normie to train and study each hitstun of it's favourite character. He would be rather looking at streams anyway.

>>52975347
I'm pretty sure the lead developer's oshi was Aki and that's the main reason she got added

>numberchimps malding

>>52969089
It's a kusoge.

>>52969089
Someone who plays this can say if there's improvements since the launch?
Considerable improvements, not just 3 paragraphs of words that don't do shit like majority of fighting games.I think the dev said they are doing this for 2 years when the game launched, if this stayed 1 more year in the oven it might be way better.

>>52970092
>Chinese ad
stfu zhang, you deserve nothing, I am so happy you are still mad and Hololive is doing better and better.

>>52975347
Well if thats the case then where is Pekora/Miko?

>>52972809
i think its based on Street Fighter 4's style

>>52975655
Nobody is upset at Coco being in the game

Its just really dumb to still include her given that its been two years now, and I'd rather let her rest than to use her as a fighting game character.

>>52972924
Anon dnf dual is a disaster and XX is 20 years old.
It's not something a 3 months old game that has the Hololive brand to carry it, should be proud of...

>>52969144
Yeah, Street Fighter 6 killed a bunch of shit, just look at Strive.
Idol Showdown might get a small boost if and when they add the numbers wabbit they promised, Pekora streaming it to play herself is as good publicity as you can get.

>>52970268
>>52975539
>Multiverses
It's "Multiversus" you retards. And it was a good game. It was just terribly handled

>>52975539
The nickleodeon smash game was made by the biggest of melee autists and was endorsed by evo champ hungrybox and tried to replicate everything that made smash good (except a good roster) and still flopped

>>52977190
They started making this game over 2 years ago so it makes sense.

>>52977317
>It was just terribly handled
Wow. It's almost like that exactly what I said.

>>52977190
Yeah, to me a hololive game should have Rushia and Coco, and maybe even Aloe if you want, but they shouldn't be priority.
Of course the game is yours and you do what you want, but I think the fans would prefer a member who is active and creating content to her fans than someone who is gone for more than 2 years.

>>52969089
I'll play it when Gura is added.

>>52977353
>>52977620
It does make sense, but at the same time I just feel wrong whenever there is a "graduated" (or terminated) character in said game

>>52977594
That part was for the other Anon, dumbass. I was agreeing with your point

>>52969089
Fighting games have always been a niche genre.
That and the art style is (objectively) shit.

I heard that it doesn't even have ranked? Is that true? No wonder then, who the fuck wants to play a fighting game without rankings or matchmaking.
Besides that FGC is a genre infamous for dead games because of the overabundance of competing titles which is compounded by the fact that they're all the same shit (their way of differentiating themselves is to add a single gimmick).

>>52977190
windy you should stop using that image
your post is not very convincing when i know who wrote it

>>52978123
Get the fuck off twitter faggot

>>52969089
The artstyle. The sprites would be forgivable if the portraits were any good.

>>52978365
windy you are the dumbest /#/ thirdie i have ever seen
also i jacked off to your oshi's huge tits covered in fake semen

>>52969144
Yep, the game never recovered after that beta.

>>52977126
holy soul

>>52971428
>I just don't like Homofaggot enablers.
I got bad news for you.

>>52978740
Do you even know their names at the end of the day?

>>52978508
You monster!

>>52978900
Regis Altare
Magni Dezmond
Noir Vesper
Gavis Bettel
Banzoin Hakka
Machina x Flayon
Jousuji Shinri
Want to know the rest in JP?

>>52979035
Aniki...

>>52978508
>he that has not come to his oshi among you, let him first cast a (you)

>>52979035
fucknig rumao
but what do you have against my dingo broshi, unless you hate all the guys for being guys, he's cool...

>>52978023
Idol Showdown is just a milquetoast game all around.

>>52979427
That was my main issue with the game as well. I couldn't figure out what identity the game was trying to give itself. It wasn't as anime as BlazBlue but it also wasn't as grounded like street fighter. Maybe this is just my underdeveloped perspective, but I couldn't find anything unique about the game other than it being about Hololive. At least it was free.

She made a fucking Part 2 stream, kek

>>52969089
Since it was made by saviorfagging redditor stuck in the past then why there's no Towa?

How do you make a fighting game for hololive and only have 8 characters? Why not 12? This isn't like OG MK where you have limited character spots.

>>52969144
Really this was the absolute worst timing to release a fighting game, anything was gonna get swallowed by SF6. Good for them for getting it out anyway though I guess, it would have probably ended up a Discord fighter anyway

>>52969089
>Installed it, it runs at like 5fps
>Uninstall

>>52981943
Imo, the game could've been relevant for way longer if they'd gave it 1 more year of developpement time and put ranked match in it.
The fact that it was as much as a broken mess on release made it be the "Kusoge vtuber game" in the fgc's mind.
The game never had proper QA and it shows. But yeah ultimately it would've become a 200 aps discord fighter too just maybe in 8 months instead of 3

Boomer fighter instead of a fun party game or stream bait, was ngmi regardless.
No ranked mode.
I never liked the artstyle.

SF6 was going to kill every other 2D fighter on release so none of that even mattered anyways.

>holocure better than idol showdown
truly /v/ermin behaviour

>>52983772
regardless of the better game, at least holocure devs arent psychotic

>>52983846
What did the Idolshowdown dev do, qrd?

>>52969089
the game is shit and vtuberfags aren't the kind of people to put in any kind of effort to learn fighting games
next question

>>52984593
Nobody is the kind of people that put effort in fighting games, that's why they are dying, even the new SF6 just got hype because muh character creation.

Fighting games are niche to begin with and this one themed around a niche interest. Add to the fact that while somewhat impressive for free to play and indie devs, it's complete kusoge and utterly unbalanced, there's no chance for any long term lifespan. The devs got to see their chuubas play their game for a week, it was never going to amount into anything more than that, I hope they weren't expecting anything more.

>>52986481
okay? that just means the overlap with people who like vtubers is even smaller. its a poorly made gimmick game in a genre that few people care for
I think we agree, just with different words

>>52971615
>>52971986
>>52972381
>>52976956
Nigga that's in Japanese your Kanji reps, newfags

>>52969089
it's a fighting game + SF6 came + it was broken.
i'm not even shit talking, they did really well with it. but vs fighting games are really hard to do well and they fucked up basically everything on a technical gameplay level.
the genre is an insane world of wizard brains that have to craft every bit of animation combining with gameplay, to literally single frames of precision. 1 frame too much of hitstun here, 1 frame too few of blockstun there, and the game is broken.

>>52969089
SF6 and the art looks like how to draw anime shit, I know the artists worked hard but the art is unnappealing as fuck

>>52975347
>no haato
your rrat is invalid

>>52976993
Miko is in as an assist and Pekora is the 1st DLC that was confirmed right at launch (devs left some "Pekora" files and folders in to drum up hype)

>>52970092
ching chong bing bong

>>52986917
are you retarded?

>>52989224
everyone will come come back with the pekora patch you will see

>>52986917
nice try zhang, not falling for it that easily

>>52981943
actually it made sense to release it with as much time possible before 6, cause even they would be at it for a good while, and everybody knows it's not gonna die down at all until someone wins the fucking ONE MILLION DOLLARS, let's see if releasing pekora will do any good to pull some people back

>>52981943
To be fair nobody had any reason to expect SF6 to be as good as it was.
SF is SF, it's always gonna be divert a lot of attention just because of that, but what's remarkable about SF6 is that not only did it blow V out of the water, it BTFO every other game in the current market in nearly every area (outside of core gameplay since that's mostly personal preference). Even people from a lot of anime fighters drifted to SF6 because it just has some of the best currently available netplay, you can actually fucking play the game, and it plays good, and in hindsight a surprising amount of games weren't actually providing that.

>>52986481
Fighting games are dying because it's 2023 and yet all but the newest (as in released in the last 2 years) games have online implementation so terribly poor it borders on the unusable. Even if you disregard how that's going to thin out any playerbase in an age where people are used to online ranked ladders, it also meant that COVID restrictions ruining in-person tourneys absolutely decimated the scene for a year and some change.

>>52972803
>Almost the game equivalent of a 2 views like 2 months in despite being heavily advertised by Holos.
> There's nothing wrong with it, it will go higher for sure.

>>52969089
>What went wrong?
Same as always, reddit dragon.

>>53002038

>What went wrong?

everything

>>52970092
wassup bugmen, you should kill yourself right now

It almost captured me to give it a bit more but they made stupid decisions in early dev stages. balance is wack and the gameplay doesn't offer much outside of 'let's make it focused on string based pressure that only mouth foaming anime fg tards would like" and shipped it out.

I'm not expecting an 'honest footsie' game but it's gameplay identity is forever lost wanting to be one or the other and that's what killed it.
I think this game is only worth checking out on the occasional character updates, whenever that happens

>>52969144
/thread
Non-vtuber fans constantly called this game the SF6 waiting room
It always had a month to live at best

>make a generic fighting game
>terrible balance
Just make a competent Smash clone.

>>53017620
you will deal with an entire MVC3 team crammed into one character and you will like it

Fighting game.
Fighting game community always begs for more games but drops anything that isn't mk or sf within a week.