/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Mori is living proof of horseshoe theory. Attracts scorn from both twitter trannies and /vt/ schizos, but loved by respectable members of society.

Who keeps posting this shit

Nah

>>52885094
>respectable members of society

>>52884566
But it's not a "redemption arc".
The things that Mori got hate for are still there (ok with male collaborations, her music, etc...) or they were never true in the first place ("Mori doesn't care about Hololive", "5%", etc...), with the only exception being all due to inexperience, not malice.
What she did show is her dogged determination and ability to thrive regardless of all the shit that she gets from both Twitter and /here/.
Hers is not a redemption arc, it's a success story.

>>52884566
Very feeble attempt at astroturfing a natural narrative that /vt/ turned to like the pink pig.

>>52885094
based and reasonable take

I don't get why the people from One Piece didn't choose Marine.
One piece is about pirates.
Marine is a pirate.

Instead they get this Calopter girl who isn't even japanese.

>>52886963
That particular consideration must not have mattered very much to them. And considering how well the performance went, they were surely vindicated.

>>52885094
Lmao deadcuck cope never gets old

>>52888903
It wasn't a performance, they just played the song. Why do people who know nothing about Mori keep trying to defend Mori?

>>52889438
I didn't mean to imply that she did it live.

>>52886963
It's not about being "the right one for the job", it's about connections, something UMG can do for her. She also has experience reaching out and taking chances with the big leagues despite being a nobody. Remember she was an autistic gaijin nobody scraping out a niche in underground nip rap with tooth and nail. That alone is worth more experience than what, frankly, any other JP can contend with

>>52890504
Good point. I'd say though, that this proves there's more than one way to be "the right one for the job."

She doesn't really care about Vtubing as much as she should , don't care. She literally the same as Kson, don't care

New World Order... signed to UMG , nothing to see here, move along folks

>>52886547
WE do sweetie. Get with the memo or go back

Her subversion of EN group culture can never be undone

>>52891022
meds

>>52890879
You care enough for them to live rent-free in your head.
You're an absolute faggot

>>52884566
WhT?

>>52884566
Isn't that Sakrua Miko, who went from being voted out of existence in a PL to being one of the most watched vtubers in the world today?

>>52885480
idk anon, going outside already beats a good chunk of this website.

>>52886963
Marine is not even close to being relevant enough to be associated with a massively popular franchise in any official capacity.

>>52890504
Jesus jesus japanesus

>>52901499
Marine has the highest subcount in JP, anon. And considering Gura refuses to stream at all, she's basically no.1 at the moment.

>>52901499
Marine is far more relevant and popular than Mori, not only in Japan but worldwide.

>>52885480
Do you think this is any different from other fanbases? Chumbuds, Teamates, and KFP all have far worst examples, but I don't judge them by it.

>only gets worse over time
>redemption arc
u wot m8?

>>52886547
Fucking retard. It's a bait thread encouraging people to hate on Mori and you took it hook line and sinker.

>>52901499
Anon what year are you living in?
Marine is literally 10x as relevant as Mori is by all metrics, CCV, superchats, music video views

>>52901846
Even if Gura did stream she'd probably be like number 10 in CCV. He subs are literally meaningless.

>>52903216
It's a fucking bait comment in a bait thread. What do you think he meant?

Why do these threads always reek of 2view seethe?

>>52885480
>generic fat nerd guy who doesn't even look that gross
>guy cosplaying as his oshi, which all fanbases had a few of
i literally dont see an issue

keep seething.

>>52903681
Marine or Gura would easily be over 10 or 15M at this point. This isn't the own you think it is.

>>52903790
https://files.catbox.moe/ve6jdk.mp3

>>52884566
you really liked teddyloid and fake type i guess?

>>52903878
Keep coping cuckbeat, I can't source a hypothetical obviously. But I know that deep down you know that Gura would be far more successful given this opportunity.

>>52886159
Good post.

>>52885117
i felt like it was one person doing it over and over again, just a pic of her and something complimenting/praising her. i wonder what the purpose behind these posts are

>>52904617
To stir shit up. It's always bait, not genuine praise. Mori has the largest number of dedicated thread reading haters on this board so it's a cheap way to cause some seethe.

>>52904737
They get bullied out of /morig/ and /hlgg/ these days, so it's their attempt at giving themselves a safe space.
Of course, they get bullied in these as well now, so...

>>52885094
>respectable members of society
Absolute delusion right there. Let's twist it just like you did. You can think of her being hated by passionate individuals of independent thought while all the easily-influenced, mid-NPCs just eat all her shit up because she's 'cool' and it's Hololive. Deadbeats will always say she's not hated because of the external collabs she gets. You have to think: are those people collabing with her for her talent or is she an easy way to get access to Hololive's reach/audience? Keep this in mind, a majority of people would say her music is hit or miss. It's because of her lack of singing/rapping talent and musical direction which results in a huge dependence on her hired music team.

>>52904911
You're seething about a One Piece Collab being successful, and assuming that OP is leeching.

>>52903681
One last hurrah before she fades into obscurity. You can think of it as a win if you'd like. But don't the numbers feel lackluster to you? The most famous manga and top vtuber agency collab together and they can only get that. The only way I knew about this collab was because of these hate threads.

>>52905357
Anon, the last chapter MV took 2 months to reach 2M.

>>52905357
The Copium is strong in this one.

>deadbeats used to be the most easily baited
>now mori antis are the most easily baited and made fun of
How times have changed.

>>52904911
Another thread reader brain broken by the pink woman. Many such cases.

>>52905357
How far can we move those goalposts?

>>52904825
I'm a little surprised that /hlgg/ finally got tired of their shit. I don't know if it's because /hlgg/ has changed how they feel about Mori or if it's because her dedicated haters haven't updated their complaints in like 2 years. They act like the lean and Air BnB incidents happened a month ago.

>>52904185
Why hasn't Gura released more music than anon if she's that powerful? Or even just fucking streaming lmao.
Mori's the one with the actual music contract you're coping so hard right now

>>52907003
Gura doesn't have to release music or stream to be more successful and wealthy than your oshi. Quality > Quantity.

>>52886963
Hope you all ready for a Mori opening in the anime.
This collab was huge success.

>>52884566
No. Pink woman still bad.

>>52885480
yes, they are?

>>52906591
It's because /hlgg/ is full of Redditors and Twittards now unironically. They root for Homocollabs.

>>52908035
Absolutely brain broken.

>>52907714
I don't really care but imagine the seethe, it would be really funny

>>52907714
Anime OP? With this success Oda will probably give her a singing role within the next film like Ado!

>>52916606
How many catalog bait threads like this would we get if that happened?

>>52906591
Personally I just haven't watched anything with Mori in it the last year. What has changed since then?

>>52885480
Guy on the right looks like a cool dude though.

>>52907714
huh

>>52885117
deadbeats

>>52927378
>If you get BTFO'd always blame the other side.

>>52927832
stop deflecting deadbeats i know it's you people shilling your oshi over and over. If you want to support mori buy the EP

>>52927941
>The deadbeats are always posting Mori bait threads!
NAH ROO HOE DOUGH

>>52928105
you even talk like your oshi

>>52885480
>cosplayfag on a concert
>average american
what's the problem?

>>52903048
>getting worse
>is getting deals left and right
???
meanwhile the dumb shark that was handed 4m subs can't even stream anymore. can't even reach 20k ccv anymore. can't even release covers without other members inviting her to do them. second orisong is just about to release when the rat, that doesn't even have a million subs just released her first EP.
>muh merch sales
yeah, something that doesn't help anyone else from hololive

>>52885480
t.brown hand

>>52934406
If you watched Gura's birthday stream you'd know how many projects she has been working on tirelessly.

>>52903161
Oh believe me, I don't need any external bait to hate the fatass.

>>52934836
But enough about Ame.

>>52885094
>horseshoe

>>52885480
show face or opinion invalidated

>>52934639
Mori works on just as many projects and has still had the most streams out of anyone in EN this year

>>52934639
>gura
>project
cuckbud always love to use this as excuse, but WHY I NEVER see this ''project'' that Gura worked on?
the animation? She outsourced those.
the 3D live? A plenty of holos also have 3D live project, yet they still stream consistently, she's not special in this regard.
Song? She hasn't released any original song since Reflect. Not to mention she also doesn't release a bunch of cover song unlike Bae, Kiara & Kronii.
So what exactly is her ''project'' that she ''tirelessly'' working on to the point she's ghosting her fans and barely stream? Please do tell me.

>>52936401
Do you have any idea how much work went into the animation, songs, and 3D parts of her birthday? You can't just handwave that, deadbeat.

>>52884566
Wrong

>>52937312
>muh deadbeat boogeyman
why don't you just admit that your shark whore is lazy and has shit work ethic?
there's many holos that also do similar project like Gura, but they still regularly stream, or you know, they didn't ghost their fans and still continue to engage with them on social media.

>>52936401
Deadbeat here. Tbf she has a new orisong and just dropped a cover with someone else. I do agree that others have done that much and streamed but seems like Gura is menhara so it might be too much.

>>52938256
Gura might be the most menhera HoloEN member, she's keeps it to herself and doesn't put it on display.

>>52908035
>It's because /hlgg/ is full of Redditors
And you think this place isn't?
It's literally just edgy r/hololive

>>52934639
and yet we never see any of those projects. other members with results to show for can also make the time to stream for their fans, so really, what's her excuse?

>>52885094
>loved by respectable members of society.

>>52936401
>>52937741
>>52939741
Remember when Mori had people watching her? KEK

>>52940271
>lost more than one third of her ccv

>>52940271
>>52940307
You seem to forget that Mori was never known as a streamer. She was always more popular in music side.

>>52940307
The real story there is Gura's stream numbers. Holy fucking shit. She really has soft graduated.

>>52906591
It's more that nobody watches her anymore, and it's too much to actually keep up with someone just do dunk on every little fuckup.
I haven't seen the list of her fuckups posted in ages, but it was long enough that I doubt adding to it would have any impact on how people feel about her.
Everyone chose a side a while ago

>>52940271
KFP really really hated the first edit of this image and is doing their best to deflect to other girls. So much for the savior of EN.

>>52907714 shit, now i have to skip the Op until they make a new one

>>52940307
impressive how Council caught up

>>52940397
>You seem to forget that Mori was never known as a streamer. She was always more popular in music side.

>>52940258
post your face
by comparison theyre better KEK

>>52941334
It's true though.

Nothing ain't more American than rap.

>>52941334
>Disparages Mori's pathetic CCV
>Refuses to acknowledge her titan like views
Many such cases.

>>52935300
>>52941375
>DEADBEATS AREN'T TROONS OKAY?! I'M NOT SEETHING. YOU ARE THE ONES SEETHING BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO DOX YOURSELF!!!
The absolute state of deadbeats.

>>52941563
There are some troons outside of this website but that is every holo fanbase for some reason.

>>52941445
HOLY FUCK I WANT TO FUCK THE MORI

>>52941854
In my experience with Holo troon fans it's been KFP > Deadbeats > Chumbuds > The rest

>>52941563
nta, don't take it personal she's prettier than you.

>>52885480
A picture of a HIGH NOBLE of the most elite class

>>52907003
You can't be this retarded. Gura doesn't stream because she doesn't fucking want to. She doesn't need to sing, she doesn't need to dance, she doesn't need to do anything. If she does something it's because she wanted to. She's set for life because the Japanese fucking love her design and her merchandise sells like hotcakes. Even if she didn't stream once this year she'd still make more money than you will in your entire life.

More clearly has a desire to do things and so she does. This isn't about some retarded fanbase war. It's common sense. Pull your head out of your ass and apply yourself anon. Think logically rather than allowing yourself to get so emotionally invested that you feel personally attacked by facts.

>>52940271
>muh ccv
numberfag cope. vtubers are not just streamers, especially the ones in hololive, they also do;
>covers
>orisongs
>concerts (important because they are in hololive)
>albums/EPs
>handcams (debatable)
>collabs/off collabs
>company events
>what have you
mori does all those things AND STILL STREAMS (just like their JP senpais) better than anyone in EN, maybe even all of hololive bar someone like suisei.
meanwhile gura;
>covers
when she get invited by her peers KEK
>orisongs
2 in almost 3 years. latest is yet to be released
>concerts
0. not to be confused with "lives". mori had 1. gura's "live" appearances had to be skinwalked too KEK. her 1st "live" one was such an embarrassment.
>albums
lol
>handcams
i think she had one, not important
>collabs/off collabs
when they invite her. got raped on one off collab KEK
>company events
required

>>52884566
i kneel queen

>>52940307
>Gura
>11 streams