/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Gura will have new friends and feel motivated to stream again, saving EN in the process

Big mooner

>>52880775
Depends of the quality of the gen, not only in entertainment value, having another Kiara(in the sense of making collabs and helping the others members connect)would be good for example, having someone o wants to do tournaments and shit like that like Pekora.
Things like that will help the whole branch, not only the new gen.

>>52880775
HoloEN was at it's best when Myth was collabing multiple times a week and dropping into each others streams organically, that feeling came back when council debuted and we had the kino minecraft arc whilst they were all getting to know their kohais. Aside from the new girls hopefully just being good in their own right, just having new blood will hopefully help the reverse the trend of most of holoEN being in their own bunkers solo streaming most of the time and bring back open vc hangouts/impromptu collabs.

>>52880775
Moona, please start eating more on stream like you used to

>>52880842
>>52881162
>>52881176
How confident are any of you that any of this will occur?
I'm more confident in the new gen seeing how easy their senpais like Ina, IRyS, Gura and Mumei take it and then think to themselves that they can take it easy too.
It doesn't help that new blood ALWAYS gets told that they can take it easy and take as many breaks as they want.

>>52880775
less pressure on other girls

>>52880775
They won't. The whores will just be there for the money. They will MAYBE stream for a month and then coast and do nothing about the opportunity of them getting into Hololive. There's only Mori, Kiara and Bae that are still trying to make something out of it. Rest are just coasting.

>>52880775
EN5***

>>52880775
more streams

>>52880775
The two biggest problems with HoloEN right now are stagnation and lack of streams; two problems that can be lessened with a new gen or two.

>>52881278
Yeah, I was saying best case scenario but it will be lucky if one girl in the whole gen wants to do those things.
HoloEN biggest obstacle is western culture, in Japan if you get compliments all the time you will feel the pressure to stay at that level or even beyond, while in the west if you get complimented a lot you will get complacent and think that you still deserve these same compliments even if you put half of the effort now.
Of course it varies from person to person, Choco is like holoEN and Kiara is like holoJP .

>>52881278
I am pretty confident that any chuuba who gets into holo is going to try to make the most of it at least at the beginning and isn't going to attempt to coast until the burnout sets in.
>new blood ALWAYS gets told that they can take it easy and take as many breaks as they want.
I don't know where you are getting this from but with how desperately holoEN needs new blood I doubt management are going to be telling the new girls to stream less, they have to know the situation is dire and they need motivated streamers to cover for the burnt out girls.

>>52880775
There's literally days with no streams during US prime time.
There were literally days with no streams around the time tempiss 2 debuted. Which was one of the reasons even Reddit was pissed when they got announced.
Basically Kiara and Fauna are the only 2 trying to keep the dead air to a minimum.

Are those "problems" in the room with us right now? If /vt/ gets around to fixing any "problems" then Hololive's doomed, lmao

how is EN suppose to keep growing its audience if there are no streams? more EN streamers can only help with this.

>>52881672
>Choco is like HoloEN
That's just wrong
Old Choco will btfo Koyori and Kaela nowadays

>>52880775
>fix any of HoloEN's problems
fix is a rather too strong of a term, it's more of a course correction
it can remedy the very noticeable dead hours; 10/15 is much more than 5/10
the bigger problem is whether or not the new members are gonna be a bunch of cocksuckers

Just on the sole principle of new blood. Council will be 2 years old in like 7 weeks

>>52880775
It doesn't need to fix any problems, I just want more streams to watch.
>watch <other corpo|indies>
No thank you.

>>52881719
>I don't know where you are getting this
This was said for Council, and both Tempus gens. (If you even remotely count the latter two)

>>52880775
>>52881278
>>52881325
This is why
When someone like Fauna makes up one fifth of the total watch time for the branch it's clear that new blood is needed just for variety

>hire professional streamers
>hire extroverts who can set up collabs
>hook them up with 3D gear from the beginning

>>52880775
More talents means shared workload meaning more time for streams possible, as it stands the 2 gens we have now are outputting at 2 streamers worth of content. 2/10 is not a good ratio, they are killing fan engagement with all the projects. You need fan engagement for a company that involves streamers as their talent.

>>52881822
>EN doesn't have problems, they been losing viewers because people started to go out and the pandemic is over
We are still using that copium?

>>52880775
So many point well let's go
> Increase the amount of hours streamed of the branch
Yes even if they are as lazy as half of their sempai that still probably end up with a 50% increase at worst, and it's more than needed
> New potential interaction
Most holoEN member are kinda alone in their niche and rarely have opportunity nor will to interact with each other, more people increase the chances of those interaction
> new shit
Honnestly the branch is getting stale and new stuff is kinda hard needed, cf. to my first point even it they are lazy AF, still gona be an increase.
> last but not least, will wash up the recent fuck up and maybe remove it if we are lucky
The recent adition of the 8 member i won't name are just thrash and they are surviving only because of some weird hype and novelety removing the novelety they benefit will be the final push to make them disapear for good from any hololive related media and that the absolute best point ever.

>>52882074
I don't remember council saying this, but yeah the hour long stream limit to avoid burnout for the homos was an odd idea I doubt they are going to repeat

>>52880775
I need more girls to watch. So it fixes my problem.

>>52882199
>they been losing viewers because people started to go out and the pandemic is over
It's deadbeat copium because Mori lost the most viewers since. Meanwhile Fauna gained viewers since. They can't explain that.

>>52882307
>Meanwhile Fauna gained viewers since. They can't explain that.
She "gained" viewers because Gura died. She filled Gura's old timeslot. And no, I'm not a deadbeat. Ina and Ame are my go to.

>>52882471
>She filled Gura's old timeslot.
She doesn't stream at the same time Gura did, she streams near Ina's time. Bae usually streams in Gura's timeslot.

>>52880775
Eventually we'll get a member that will absolutely crush that bitch Kiara and she'll graduate, maybe EN3 is when it happens

>>52882199
Weird way to just say Myth has lost half of their viewers.

>>52881774
And what if none of them stream at EST or PST prime time?

>>52882671
Even better, then Euros and SEAfags can stop complaining about no streams

>>52880775
Your implicit premise that HoloEN should not get a new gen after two years of delay while only being a 10-person group is preposterous to begin with. I don't have to justify EN3. You should justify your retardation.

>>52880775
For some of the girls, Hololive isn't even their full time job. HoloEN desperately needs a "Pekora" who lives and breathes V-tubing/ Streaming.

>>52883847

What are the demands of Hololive outside streaming if they can really do another job along with it?

>>52882122
why there's 2 vspo in the graph

>>52884015
Because it's compiled by people that don't even watch vtubers. Keep that in mind whenever you see this style of chart get circulated here.

>>52883945
Who knows, but its clear they are allowed to. Calli's roomates has multiple concerts and events I think.

>>52880775
Explain why the EN branch going without a new gen for the longest time of any branch of Holopro is NOT a problem. I genuinely don't understand the idea some people have that HoloEN should be stuck with the same number of talents forever. Why should they not seek to expand and grow like every other branch? Assuming you aren't a butthurt tempissister who doesn't want the debut numbers of a potential EN3 to highlight just how much of an embarrassing waste of time StarsEN truly was, of course.

>>52880775
Not a single person that isn't a schizo or a homobeggar has ever given a valid answer to argue the opposite

Didn't some autist crunch the numbers a while back and stated that if you removed streaming monsters like Pekor or Kaela then EN's streaming hours are not that different from the rest of Hololive and it's really just a matter of retards expecting 10 talents to put out the same amount of content as 35?

>>52880775
I'm looking forward to ID4 more. I have 0 hope for EN3.

>>52881278
>How confident are any of you that any of this will occur?
Not very, but it's the thing most likely to shake things up.
Unless you're content with the state of HoloEN you should want a new gen, otherwise you're hoping for a miracle.

already posted in the thread but I really want Kiara to have another EU member to play around with, i feel like that alone would be worth it.

Suddenly normies learned that HoloEN is kinda mid and doesn't work and now nothing will save the branch not even a new gens

>>52884325
>both logos have the same symbols
>cant make the connection between vspo and virtual esports project
numbernigs are actually incapable of critical thinking

>>52880775
It won't. Anons are just retards coping over EN's perpetual recline

>>52880775
>HoloEN's problems
First you have to explain what these so-called "Problems" are.
Far as I'm concern they're fine

Most issues of any vtuber corpo is schizophrenic meltdowns over normal workplace behavior, so no en3 won't change a fucking thing they'll just start switching names with the newbies

>>52880775
They need more stream time in the day taken up, it will make collabs and events easier, it will bring back some of the people with waning interest or those that didn't find their fit among current members.

>>52881104
SPBP

Will ID4 stop ID from being a bunch of 1-2k shitters?

>>52889442
ID has decent hires, but stupid EN viewers don't even try to watch them.

I don't

I just think that even if they do add in a new gen, they'll gain little from it. EN fans need to treat the girls as streamers rather than twitter users. They also need to learn what the fuck courtesy means, and they have to behave better. As amazing as EN3 could be, it all depends on how the fans act, and if the talents are actually able to do well with their voices, streaming abilities, and their singing. EN2 badly misses a marquee voice, but Baelz is probably that person.

What problems? I just want more cute girls and streams

>>52889901
Fanbase needs to stop being whores and being cross-company unityfags. Oshis should be supported so they can actually do things.

>>52889901
>treat the girls as streamers rather than twitter users
The fuck does that even mean?

>>52890331
Be a better streamer, not a tweeter

>fix any of HoloEN's problems.
What problems? people here are acting like HoloEN isn't the most succesfull EN corpo way ahead of the second. All the girls have decent CCV, some of them even more than 7k viewers per stream.

just shup up.

>>52890854
But according to
>the catalog
>/#/
>various shitposters
and
>>>/jp/
EN is in shambles, at an all time career low, and will continue to recline into obscurity.

All I want is another cunny because the only cunny in EN right now is pretty much done with streaming.

>>52880775
They'll finally start catering to EuroCHADs, ushering in a new era of peace and prosperity for virtual youtubing

>>52880775
>they will be a threat for their gachis and they will literally have to pander and work for them to keep them
>shiny new toy > old forgotten lazy whore, who as that?

>>52880775
it won't fix anything. EN isn't broken, its just management being retarded and pushing shit with insane deadlines. If anyone things 3-5 more new ENs will "fix" anything, well they are delusional. EN needs some of their crazy restrictions and projects that go no where removed and we'll go back to how things were.

>>52890854
That's mostly because for every mismanagement of HoloEN, NijiEN responds with 3 yabs.

>>52880775
>gura and mori are more than streamers, understandable that cover would want to pursue greater things with them
>ina has admitted to only be in hololive for the ride and seeks no higher goal, prioritizes her art more and thus streams less
>kiara tries her best to stream but her content doesnt appeal to everyone
>mumei is sickly
>bae is too much of a normie streamer
>debuffson, kronii... yeah
So EN3 is very much needed

I'm not expecting someone streaming like Kaela and Koyori, but a few new girls will do wonder for the constant dead air problem and anemic collab schedule.

>>52881278
>I'm more confident in the new gen seeing how easy their senpais like Ina, IRyS, Gura and Mumei take it and then think to themselves that they can take it easy too.
No, Bae senpai will save a few of the girls for sure.

>>52881278
That won't happen if en3 girls actually like streaming and hololive. It's a gamble.

>>52880775
Why wouldn't it? False EN3 teaser deflection thread

>>52893099
This. HoloEN management is horrible but NijiEN management constantly sabotages their own branch. I doubt EN3 would fix any of the real problems but it would be a bandage that would temporarily motivate the other talents.

I don't. I think things will get worse so I don't want EN3.

>>52880775
More people, more stuff to watch, more collab opportunities, less "dead air"

>>52880842
>Gura
>Friends
lol, lmao even

>>52882122
Damn, if this chart is accurate then it's hilarious that people here act like HoloEN and Gura are fundamental to Cover's success. They are basically nobodies.

>>52880775
I don't think that, if anything EN3 will add more to the cancerous shit that plagues EN like holostarsEN collabs and not streaming and hating their fans. Like yeah dude thanks, 5 new girls that don't wanna do their jobs after the first two months after they get their paycheck and realize they're getting a free ride to success so they don't bother to try anymore. IF we're lucky we'll get another Fauna or another outgoing Bae type. Worst case scenario we get 5 Moris and Kroniis mixed in with a little Gura ghosting to make it truly the holoEN experience. Fuck that shit.

>>52892151
there is literally 1 German native Holomem and I hate her. I prefer Iofi who did, like, 1 German learning stream or something. They either need to find some girl from the Thuringian/Saxon countryside or I'm not interested. Most German indies are either Wessi normies (this is totally not normal where I come from) or Taida. A JP girl who happens to live here.
Kiara may claim to be Austrian, but she's basically a Wessi at heart.

>>52880775
1 more stream per week

>>52880775
streams for times like now.

>>52880775
Personally I'm just excited at the prospect of maybe finding an oshi

>>52880775
1. New girls will draw part of the people who moved away from Hololive back into the corp's streams, even if only for curiosity's sake at first.
2. A new group means they're mandated to stream a LOT for a few months, fixing EN's biggest problem currently.
3. Once the collab ban is over, the new girls will also provide new interactions with the existing girls. This could even have the effect of drawing some of the less active girls back into streaming, i.e. Gura.
4. It will make nijifags angry.

It most liklely won't fix any of the major issues, but it should at the very least give them a much needed boost for the end of the year.

And hopefully some new SEX designs that's gonna last us longer than the new members

EN doesn't have any problems. Japan has problems. They don't let streamers sing more than 8 songs or play video games that aren't Minecraft. Simply open an EN HQ that operates by US laws and (miraculously) they will stream more, play actual good games, do actually good karaokes with good music, Gura will revert her graduation papers and peace will come to the middle east. If they can spend 500 million USD on a shitty mocap studio, they can built an outhouse in Ohio with a single employee that works reception. Tack a sign in the front that says "Cover Corp EN Office" and they're golden.

>>52881278
>I’m more confident in the new gen seeing how easy their senpais like Ina, IRyS, Gura and Mumei take it and then think to themselves that they can take it easy too.
I wish they will be 5 IRySes. At least she is among the tops of HoloEN when it comes to stream hours and watch time.
Heck, I don’t even need 5 Koyori / Kaela, 5 IRyS is fine. Please, Cover

>>52882122
>NijiEN > HoloEN
oh no no no holobros...

>>52881278
Surprisingly, HoloEN actually has higher median of stream hours and amount of streams than HoloJP.
The only reason why their members’ breaks stood out was because there were too few members to fill the gap. EN3 can help that.

>>52907985
>100 streamers vs 12
You silly anon.

Potentially more collabs since more members. Even though the chances are .000001%

>>52907259
>play video games that aren't Minecraft
They have a ton of game perms. They basically have the entire first party Nintendo catalog.

no one thing can be blamed when it comes to the troubles right now.
for those who think there aren't any problems with the EN girls, that's really difficult to stand maintain. some of them have personality problems, some of them have motivation problems, and some of them have issues that are understandable and should be recognized.
for those who think the problems lie purely on the girls: no. just no. it's clear even to the fanbase that the management is utter dogshit. this also leads into how i think holoEN is shafted from the beginning, no matter what, because japan. i've seen it mentioned here, and i agree: hololive doesn't give two shits about the wellbeing of holoEN (no i'm not going to consider tempus as legit, because they're not), but they will definitely milk them as much as possible until they quit.
for those who think the problem lies in both hololive and holoEN, you're also forgetting that the fanbase is just as responsible for the shitty circumstances. the absolute state of the chats that I see whenever the girls stream is appalling. some of you all think these girls are your property and possible girlfriend. i was laughing so hard i cried when fauna told that one dude to basically fight against his parasocial retard self by staying grounded in reality. and then there are the ships that unreasonably place sexual expectations on the girls for each other. seriously? that alone convinces me that some of you all see vtubers as the softcore version of your porn preferences. also, some of you all are astoundingly blind to the fact that it's a real person behind the avatar.
so no, EN3 won't "save" or "correct" or "rescue" anything, when the core issues are not accounted for. a lot of you all don't want think past the prospect of more channels to switch to upon the arrival of new girls, or the fact that these girls don't exist solely for your pleasure.
ultimately, it's going to be a mixture of the three factors i've touched on that will destroy the current EN girls unless they find an out at some point. but if i had to choose one, i would choose the primary culprit to be the fans. the fans will consume these girls and their efforts, and shit out complaint after complaint after sexual delusion after retarded comment after unrealized fantasies. this is beyond sad.

>>52911019
You could have condensed it all to:
The problem is the retarded coomer stained overly demanding illogical retarded fans.

>>52890854
>What problems? people here are acting like HoloEN isn't the most succesfull EN corpo way ahead of the second
That last sentence gave away your ESL identity

Just hire one Music holo, 3 streamers and one tech hag to support the group.
You've already solved this cover.

>>52880775
Whatever perceived problems that need solving are beside the point, I just want new cute girls on the EN roster.

>>52912038
some things just can't be tl;dr, really

also, i believe hololive is on its last legs overall, and i think the recent purchase of the new studio is the final nail on the coffin. it was sheer luck that hololive was able to fill an entertainment vaccum due to the pandemic, but we ain't got no pandemic now. i would give hololive at max three more years. why just three? because i believe superchats are going to dry up big time. why? come on, look at the global economy. 'nuff said.
be nice to the girls while they're still around.

>>52912607
you're part of the problem

>>52880775
The mixed gender gen will run off all the cancerous unicorns.

>>52880775
Some anon hoped that EN3 would be the "miracle gen", but isn't Myth already a "miracle gen"?
Sure, they couldn't keep their viewers stay but they blew up right when they debuted. Mori's original song, "RIP", became very popular especially with that remix competition. Then there's Gura's "A" meme that went viral, not to mention her city pop karaoke.

>>52880775
It won't, and anyone who thinks it will is a retard.

>>52912911
YWNBAW

>>52912911
>we need a mixed gender gen because of the heckin unicorns!
please fucking leave

Having more en streams in general will open many doors Ed boy.

You get more schedule coverage, keeping people interested, you get more collab potential and you get more options for group stuff. Hololive JP took until Gen 3 to really take off, they just need bodies in seats that want to stream.

>>52880775
It won't fix most of the issues, but it will fix their biggest problem. The lack of streams. I shouldn't be checking holodex and seeing nobody to watch during NA prime time.

>>52911019
You wrote all that ESL bullshit just to look like a complete retard, maybe someone here will feel sorry for you.
I could never imagine talking so much on a subject I have no knowledge of. do everyone a favor and kill yourself.

>>52912038
>demanding illogical retarded fans
Then why JP can meet or even surpass those expectations?
Unless you are saying that the EN girls are less talented, less hard workers and less charismatic...and I would agree.

>>52916335
>>52916165
maidenless

>>52914385
what do you mean... tonights streams are: powerwash simulator, watson sucking too hard to make a thumbnail that says what she's doing, and bae ep release party... excitement unlimited. it feels like they are doing the absolute bare minimum to meet their quotas.

>>52916560
tourist or braindead

>>52911019
JP has all those "problems" that you said in steroids and yet they aren't losing fans and receiving criticism left and right.
You should accept they are never much anyways, they only exploded because the main branch had a great need for a english branch plus the pandemic and the algorithm, but once all the hype ended the fans noticed that this isn't hololive but in english, it's a different thing altogether and the fanbase changed for newfags and troons who want to kill muh idol culture.

>>52916965
i agree, but you're not accounting for how this is an overall unsustainable situation. i think there are a couple nuggets of talent in EN, but they won't be nurtured or utilized to their fullest extent. i'm not blind to how there is a distinct lack in EN, though nevertheless there are diehard fans for each of the girls. but i do think an end is coming, and it's unfortunate that too much of the fanbase can't see past their delusions. like >>52916165

>>52918728
>deluded faggot calling others deluded
kek, keep being a retard please, gives me a good laugh

>>52918728
>an end is coming
2 more weeks!

>>52912076
so?

>>52880775
It won't. People just say that to hide the fact they just want shiny new toys.

>>52925434
EN3 won't fix management which is the real problem but at this point the JP branch had 28 hololive talents. Having more holoEN talents means there would be more streams to watch and more choices. Might not be good for some of the current talents but overall it would be good for viewers.

>>52911019
Agreed.

Fuck basement, worm-IQ Idol-tards

The girls need this because they're about as qualified as an Immigrant for a W-4

Plus, compared to Stars? (Shinri is a double Major Grad) at least if I had to give them any degree of props, one of them has a future ((Outside)) of hololive.

I wouldn't hire EN, JP or ID girls even if they offered me a blowjob and a Billion dollars, get some class and integrity first E-lips

In the meantime? Suck it Clean

>>52880842
And after a month or two she'll get bored, what next EN4?

>>52916335
The Japanese were trained to work till they're dead. The West doesn't have that.

>>52880775
Because then I won't have to watch Myth and Council. Stale as old bread

>>52911019
>Blaming the fans who made the talents six figures a year and only wanted something in return
It's 100% the management's fault for bad hires and lack of support. Not the fans.
Expecting the fanbase to not be full of coomers is unrealistic, even the stars get female parasocials in their chat. Most cover hires had experience in content creation so they knew this was coming, any sane person could easily ignore or deal with them. If you think the fans are in any way responsible for HoloEN's shitty work ethic then congratulations, you've been thoroughly fooled and manipulated.
>i was laughing so hard i cried when
The fact that something like this draws a lot of emotions out of you is proof that you're in it too deep. Have you considered that your opinions are just as biased and unreliable as those delusional fans?
>>52912679
>>52918728
>doomer schizo
Whatever global recession you think is going to happen will not be so sudden or destructive. I suggest growing a thicker skin and wrinklier brain so you won't be as menhera as your oshi.

>>52880775
I don't watch Hololive as much as back in the day, moved on to small corpos but recently a new gen debuted at idol and saw how this affected the girls so there could be place for comparison in the case EN3 were to happen
>The newcomers put the senpais at risk of getting their regulars stolen from them so they stream more often/produce better content
>The new gen shows a huge unity attitude that influences the entire corpo for the better
>The just debuted will come with interesting ideas that will inspire and diversify the enviroment that surrounds them

>>52880775
I don't care about EN. just want to see how EN3 girls will do and prepare for grudgepost in case they couldn't even be on par with sankisei (JP3) or bare minimum ID3.
ENfags loves to bragging and put extreme hype (like Council) only end up to be letdown.
Be careful with your expectation, bro.
>>52913061
this. ENfags are the biggest ungrateful numbernigger. They already have their own miracle gen, while other branches like JP & ID need a couple of gen to made it. sure EN is kinda stale but holoEN in grand scheme of thing still the industry leader on western vtubing scene, isn't that enough?

>>52935269
We're talking about a big corpo here, how a new gen impacts the company changes drastically depending the size of this one. For one neither myth nor council will feel threatened by new girls

>>52925434
If anything, I feel bad for EN3 girls due to the high expectations placed on them. If they are unable to exceed those expectations, they will be shitposted so hard on this board, and people (especially numberfag & catalogfag) will label them as failures of their gen.

>>52880775
Subjective opinion:
Hololive as a whole is at its best when large-scale events are happening. Be it a company-wide tournament series, offcollabs or concerts, when multiple talents join together to create content, that's when the idol aspects of Hololive shine the most and puts them ahead of the competition. I can forgive ID since they don't have the resources to make said events happen on their own (but they still do a lot of bonding through constant offcollabs and they are also eager to join as participants for others), but EN is severely lacking in that. Think about how yesterday Kiara wanted to hold a big Jackbox night for her birthday with the maximum of 8 participants but only 6 members showed up and one left halfway through, or the upcoming Getting Over It tournament which is just CouncilRyS once again. These events pale in comparision to what Hololive became famous for since they lack willing participants, not to mention the lack of organizers means they are few and far between. You have Bae, Kiara and Mori working on events, but the three of them alone can't work tirelessly every month to make things happen in EN. The song output is also their responsibility for the branch if you exclude IRyS since she's hired specifically by Cover to sing and she largely lacks input. For these reasons I want EN3 to happen, especially if it's 6/7 members like some speculate based on the teaser from CtW, but I'd just take even a single new member.

But.
There's absolute no guarantee that new hires would go that way. The three members I've mentioned have the lowest CCVs in the branch, which suggests that viewers are not that interested in large scale events and they encourage the talents just streaming and putting out easy content to consume. If the theoretical new hires also go towards the easy way, they're truly redundant as it's not like HoloEN is doomed like many anons on this board would suggest and there's more than enough content for a casual streamwatcher already. Not to mention that even with their current members, they can make big events happen like CtW was where every fanbase ate good enough and if some of the more passive members would take on organizing events, they could thrive just as they are.

>>52880775
Antis dont care they just want to attack hololive with anything and they desperately cling to anything they can think of
Nijis new wave that they hyped for nearly 8 months has already went from 30k on debut to as low as 700 in a week

>>52889710
i'll admit, the language is a turnoff for me
i can watch kaela solo stream for hours because she speaks english the majority of the time, but the moment she's collabing with another ID it's nothing but indo and borderline unlistenable
and before you call me an EOP i don't have this problem watching JPs because japanese is actually pleasant to listen to

>>52939909
If you don't understand JP you are still an EOP

>>52880842
This could only happen if nyanners was in EN3.

>>52939909
>it's nothing but indo and borderline unlistenable
>japanese is actually pleasant to listen to
I heard the same sentiment a lot, so i did a bit of googling for this.
I think Indonesian as a language has not been spoken long enough by its people to evolve into a more natural sounding language. It's an abomination of multiple local and foreign languages, basically had no identity of its own, you can even consider it a mere dialect of malaysian. Compare that to Japanese that emerged far earlier and enjoyed a distinct evolution from chinese due to self isolationism. Modern Japanese evolved from in Edo period (1600-1867) while the Riau Malay that eventually became Indonesian evolved from 19th-20th century. It's a very young language, it doesn't even exist yet when they were first colonized by the dutch.

>>52880842
What's wrong with the 9 friends she has now? Or the other 9 ID friends she can test out? Hell she even has her sisters, her simpettes Fuyo and Yuko, Filian, and maybe even a NijiEN girl or 2

Its that line of thinking were people think you can save a failing marriage by having another kid.

>>52907259
You don't belong in Hololive if you don't want to sing Japanese songs. When I'm watching streams from a JP company, no matter if it's JP or EN branch, I expect hearing this stuff, not burger pop music shit.

>>52939909
I don't disagree. I'm more used to listening to that kind of switch than most people. Moona's Indonesian may be smoother, but I also think she's really boring. With the ID girls it's a chicken and egg problem. They tend to alter their language to the chat. If chat is mostly english, they speak english. So you need more EN to watch, but... As far as JP, it is more listenable, but most/all JP streams are going to be 99% JP. I can handle that with my full attention, but I can watch ID while I'm doing something else.

New thing to consoom and tribalfag until they say something that I can wildly overreact to and shitpost about for months.

>/vt/ hated Mori, then Kiara (2/5)
>new wave got them to hate Kronii, Bae, and Sana (3/5)
>IRyS is a comedic punching bag over "If Vsinger where songs?"
>Somehow a new wave will abate them
If anything it'll be 4/5 will be hated and an instant request for EN4 will sprout up

>>52880775
I have faith in Hololive's selection of talents. They don't just look for streamers. While there will be a ton of pressure on the new talents, expect unique and 'familiar' talents.

>>52941974
>Hololive's selection of talents

>>52941601
if we request en4 now, does that mean they will happen more quickly?

>>52942024
Why more to choose from is good.
Those boobas are too big for my tastes.

>>52880775
>NOOO NOOO WE DONT WANT EN3 ROGHT GUYS????
>NOOO TEMPISS SISTERS WHAT WILL WE DO WHEN EN3 BURIED OUR BOYS!!!???
>UMMM WHAT EVEN DO YOU THINK EN3 WILL FIX OMG! EN3 WOJT FIX ANYTHIJG!!!
>TEMPISSS XISTERS THEY WONT LISTEN TO MEEEEEE!!!
I want en3 to fix tempiss and bury those faggots especially vespertroon.

>>52942557
Cool.