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Why is EN management so shit ?

>> No.52693382

Some anon proved that there are at least 5 trannies in EN management currently still working for cover.

>> No.52693401

>>52693194
Anyone who could deliver successful homos would be promoted within the company. The EN market loves male fleshtubers, so the management cover hired to run their EN branch tried to make male vtubers popular to advance their careers. They ruined the female vtubers momentum instead and are currently being placed under Japanese supervision.

>> No.52693452

>>52693194
Literally blame yagoo it was his idea after all.

>> No.52693531

>>52693382
how when Gura and some of the other girls hate troons?

>> No.52693549

>>52693452
No. Yagoo wanted homos, but EN management told him the market wanted them so much they could skip a generation of girls and let the new males make up for it because westerners are different than Japanese people and like being cucked more than they like idols.

>> No.52693583

>>52693531
Because they are trannies anon, if someone gets fired they will come with a ''my truth and the truth about cover'' tweet with a lot unverifieable shit that twitter and many vtubers will eat up.

>> No.52693640

>>52693194
>Those graphs
Hololive JP viewership is going up to all time highs and Hololive EN is hitting all time lows.

>> No.52693683

>>52693549
Post proof of you in the meeting.

>> No.52693700

>>52693549
Proof?

>> No.52694075

>>52693640
Don't mind too much the graphs that's just a meme

>> No.52694247

>>52693194
The graph on the bottom has always pissed me off and proves that this board is full of 3rd-world uneducated faggots, complete nonsense.

>> No.52694512

>>52693640
read the fucking axis names and the dialogue of the first panel you goddamn animal

>> No.52694615

>>52693549
This is the truth.

>> No.52695573

>>52694247
That's the point, genius

>> No.52695721

>>52693194
Here's a (you) for the doodle

>> No.52695816

>>52693531
Why do you think Gura stopped streaming? She will return after these fags become statistic

>> No.52696111

>>52693549
>westerners are different than Japanese people and like being cucked more than they like idols
Considering how much time people on this board spend fantasizing about being cucked, that may be true

>> No.52696161

>>52694512
>you goddamn animal
Kek. Anon call me that too please

>> No.52696177

>>52695816
More like Gura will return when fans stop handing her money for doing nothing

>> No.52696179

>>52693194
>Girls don't stream
>"A new gen will introduce something new and kill more dead hours!"
>old girls don't stream
>new girls don't stream
>"A new gen will introduce something new and kill more dead hours!"
They'd probably be more motivated if their fans weren't insufferable. Exactly how many of them have NOT felt the need to have The Talk to their chat or outright lashout at them?

>> No.52696274 [DELETED] 

>>52696179
So true, sister! We need more homos that support the cause to own the chuds!

>> No.52696380

>>52694247
the homos per homos value fluctuates

>> No.52696592

>this entire thread
Proofs?

>> No.52696631

>>52696274
>can't answer a simple question
Cmon sis if you're going to respond at least include one of the three iphone screenshots you spam everywhere

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>>52696631
Go support your boys, sister. It’s been a week and they’re already 3 views.

>> No.52696994

>>52696841
Now THAT'S my schizoanon!

>> No.52698084
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>>52693194
Toker

>> No.52698501

>>52698084
Towa is Omega...

>> No.52699386

>>52693194
> literally just had an all girls concert outside of japan in a sold-out theater that sits like 6k people, and likely thousands of online stream tickets sales.
> closeted dicksucks like you STILL thinking and seething about dudes all the time instead of the girls

>> No.52699622

>>52699386
One creates the other retard. The less homos the more stadium seats can be filled with a fanbase responding to loyalty.

>> No.52699753

>>52699622
What did he mean by this

>> No.52699889

>>52699386
You left out en3 being teased at the concert as well. OP likely didn't watch it

>> No.52700370

>>52699622
>The less homos the more stadium seats can be filled
The EN concert location (which was again, already filled out btw) would've been picked because of availability, pricing, production costs, and cover playing it safe with their first overseas concert production.

The number of dudes cover hires has literally nothing to do with what venue they book or how many concert seats they can sell.

> with a fanbase responding to loyalty.

what in the mao zedong is this shit? "responding to loyalty"??

its a vtuber concert fucknuts, not a authoritarian political rally.

>> No.52700592

>>52699622
Retard

>> No.52701653

>>52700370
>Mao zedong

Learn basic marketing idiot. A market is solidified under consistant product presentation. Anything that dilutes a product in perception weakens the whole and Holostars definitely counts. Entire companies that once owned the world have collapsed overnight because of this. See the fall of He-man after the introduction of She-ra for example (especially relevent because it has the same gendered determinant as vtubing markets).

>> No.52702193

>>52701653
If you worked at Cover then I would believe you. But you have to know that a Japanese megacorp with an English branch is entirely different they didn't put the girls and the guys in the same category like Niji otherwise they would've already been down the drain many years ago

>> No.52703049

>>52701653
Right so holostars merely existing weakens the brand overall, and so tempus' existence over the last year or so did so much shock and damage to the EN brand by diluting their product presentation and turning off their audience.

Which is why Connect the World didn't sell out the theater, didn't also have thousands of online streaming sales, didn't sell out of penlight merch, and just wasn't a big thing in the space overall. Cover's consumer base were so confused and revolted by the "inconsistent product presentation" that they boycotted cover's first overseas concert production and made it spectacularly fail.

Oh wait, none of that happened.

Feel free to send Yagoo your copy of Marketing for Dummies though. Maybe include a link to the fucking He-man wikipedia page too you imbecile.

>> No.52703265

>>52701653
>A market is solidified under consistant product presentation
maybe they could start consistently presenting some streams lmao

>> No.52703510

>>52693194
They hired woke people, that is all.

>> No.52703618

>>52693640
How the fuck did you get past the captcha

>> No.52703655

>>52703618
I lol'ed

>> No.52703720

>>52693194
rent free

>> No.52703750

When will they accept applications for homostars again? i want to shoot my shot.

>> No.52704285

>>52693194
You WILL get more homos and you WILL like it. Don't think we forgot you fully supported Tempus before they debuted, faggot

>> No.52705274

>>52704285
IT'S MAGGING TIME

>> No.52705815

>>52696179
What other scapegoat would a schizo use to blame, if the EN3 girls also rarely stream like their senpai?

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>>52693194
Fixed your image for ya!

>> No.52708765

>>52693194
JP has been spamming homos, too. Yagoo is a faggot.

>> No.52712175

>>52693194
20-something hires

>> No.52712456

>>52705815
Fuck those girls! Them and their incel chud fanbase need to fuck off so we can be alone with our cute boys!

>> No.52712490

>>52708359
Incorrect

>> No.52713678

>>52712490
Now that you're done talking to the mirror, talk to me

>> No.52713825

>>52703750
The requirement is to shit on unicorns. If you have even a bit of sympathy for them then you won't get in. Trust me bro.

>> No.52714387

>>52696179
30 girls who rarely stream would leave less dead hours than 10 who rarely stream, how did you fail simple math

>> No.52714614

>>52696111
>cover is /here/ performing market research

>> No.52714665

>>52693194
to annoy (you).

>> No.52715146

>>52693194
Good morning sirs, how's the weather in Ho Chi Minh?

>> No.52715439

I'm gonna blame it on panic from EN seeing NIJIEN going well with their luxiem branch. Cooler heads would've seen this as a blip in the radar. Unfortunately, we're stuck with Tempus. Some people can like them, but Tempus isn't that fix EN needed.

EN2 also kinda hurt since it attracted some of the dumbest fans in vtubing. Council is solid, but they aren't the magnum opus of EN. Pair that with Sana's departure, and you see why Council is a weaker overall gen. Management has to feel pressured to deliver with EN3, and thats why we haven't seen it.

>> No.52715630

>>52714387
>30 x 32.5 (Gura's hours streamed Jan-May 2023)
975 hours
>10 x 373.5 (Kiara's hours streamed Jan-May 2023)
3,735 hours

975 is more than 3,735. Simpil maf

>> No.52717397

>>52693382
and vastly more on this board.

>> No.52717587

>>52693194
They're women so they have no idea what the fans enjoy and/or they're insanely hostile to it.

>> No.52718914

>>52693194
>Teaser for EN girls comes out
>Nijifags spam bait and bait threads
wow. sugoi.

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>>52693531
Gura is playing a long game of chicken with the trannies in HoloEn management

>> No.52719123

>>52693401
>The EN market loves male fleshtubers
>fleshtubers
That's the key. Male streamers only belong in the fleshtuber space. They absolutely do not belong in vtubing.

>>52693549
And then Tempus crashed and burned. And then the second generation of Tempus crashed and burned even harder. I wonder if any lessons were learned?

>> No.52719181

>>52717587
Seems some correction is needed.

>> No.52719434

>>52703049
>holostars merely existing weakens the brand overall
Correct.
>tempus' existence over the last year or so did so much shock and damage to the EN brand by diluting their product presentation and turning off their audience.
Correct.
>Connect the World
Was Tempus as Connect the World? No they weren't. The massive success of Connect the World affirms that the GIRLS are the draws of Hololive's EN branch and Tempus doesn't need to exist at all.

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>>52719434

>> No.52720414

>Tempus has done irreparable damage to EN
>The mere existence of y chromosomes is literally causing tens of thousands of EN viewers to jump ship each passing day
>EN will be 3views any day now
>B-but the concert was a massive success!

>> No.52722458

>>52719434
>Was Tempus as Connect the World? No they weren't. The massive success of Connect the World affirms that the GIRLS are the draws of Hololive's EN branch and Tempus doesn't need to exist at all.

> retards saying starsEN is hurting the branch
> I point out EN literally just had a massive successful concert so obviously not
> retards saying I don't understand marketing and that starsEN is hurting the branch
> I again point out EN literally just had a massive successful concert so obviously they aren't
> you (yet another retard) saying well acktually Connect the World was a success because it was the girls (no fucking shit sherlock).

You're not making the argument you think you're making. Because apparently tempus is simultaneously such a big problem that they weaken and damaged the entire EN brand and turned off the audience, but also just so insignificant they might as well not exist, and that no material effects of said damage on the brand can be seem in the reception to the largest EN event yet. Thanks for yet again proving my point.

>> No.52722811

>>52720414
>>Tempus has done irreparable damage to EN

Here we go again.....

>>The mere existence of y chromosomes is literally causing tens of thousands of EN viewers to jump ship each passing day

Bro, EN ccv is not so high that "tens of thousands of EN viewers" can jump ship every day.

>>EN will be 3views any day now

Sure, I heard jesus is coming back soon too.

>>B-but the concert was a massive success!

Strange that a company who does concerts as its big premium product might mark ongoing success with.... how well their concerts do.

>> No.52722906

>>52722811
>>52722458
it's almost like the anon wants hololive EN to be a failure and is anticipating it
now who could possibly want that

>> No.52723051

>>52722811
>never heard of hyperbole
Anon, you might just be retarded

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>>52693194
>>52693382
>>52693549
Japan got duped by the trannoids, theyre still running on Windows 95 software and using fax machines over there they still think this is about 'equality' and Yagoo wanted to give the homos a chance
Their version of gender weirdoes arent that bad and can actually function in society while understanding and catering to what the mass public likes and keeping their weird freak shit to a niche where it belongs, a la Tamaki or the guy who sang the Oshi no Ko ED, at worst you just get a menhera who commits sexual assault like Matsuri which can be swept under the rug in Japan. They were not familiar with "people" like Kronii, Omegatroon or the rest of EN management

>> No.52723114

>>52723051
>uses the word literally
>it was a hyperbole
anon I think you might be the retarded one here

>> No.52723329

>>52723114
Yes, anon. As we all know, Kiara is well known for her ability to get tens of thousands during her streams
This post is what is known as "sarcasm."

>> No.52723446

>>52723329
you're still the one using the english language wrong and scoffing at others for not understanding your incorrect usage of words
which is kinda what stupid assholes do

>> No.52723639

>>52722458
There is no data to go by in the opposite direction. Hypothetically speaking: Would the concert have been nearly as successful with the homos being on the docket?

>> No.52723763

>>52723446
Listen, anon, I'm sorry if you're too retarded to pick up on context clues. I apologized. Feel better?

>> No.52723915

>>52723763
Using a word incorrectly aint "context clues" dumbass
It's cute you're trying to save face and all, but the fact is you presented your statements in a fundamentally wrong manner and then backpedaled and tried to look like "the smrt wun" when you got called out for someone taking your words for what they mean by english definition
Hold your L for once, christ

>> No.52724459

>>52723915
>Using a word incorrectly aint "context clues" dumbass
The sentence has more than one word in it, doesn't it anon? That's where the "context clues" comes in. You seem profoundly retarded so I'll spoon-feed you. Try not to drool over yourself.

>the existence of y chorosomes
Hmm, that's awfully strange wording... why not just say "men?"
>literally
Uh oh, this MUST be serious!
>tens of thousands of EN viewers
Wait... that's sounds a little too specific of a number... something's off here...
>jump ship each passing day
Hold on a second! They'd be at zero viewers in less than a week! This statement can't possibly be serious!

>> No.52724958

>>52724459
I would’ve agreed with you and all, but you had to act like a stupid-ass smug fuckin prick when someone assumed you were using the English language correctly when you put in “literally”
But no, everyone has to be on the same fuckin page as you when you butcher words to mean the exact opposite of their actual definition or else they’re Neanderthals and you’re fuckin Noam Chomsky
Go fuck yourself and learn how to use the English language, or at the very least, don’t act appalled when someone is gracious enough and has enough (clearly misplaced) faith to assume that you understand what the words you’re using mean

>> No.52725543

>>52724958
There was nothing used incorrectly. If you knew English as well as you claim, you would know the existence of things like sarcasm and hyperboles and what they can do to the meaning of a sentence. Again, the prospect of EN losing tens of thousands of viewers every day should've been the biggest red flag that something was amiss. Keep practicing. You'll start to get the hang of it one day.

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>>52725543
>There was nothing used incorrectly
>>52720414
>literally causing tens of thousands of EN viewers to jump ship

The usage of the word "literal" is fundamentally the antithesis of a hyperbole and so is, in fact, literally incorrect
try again

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>>52725758

>> No.52726208

>>52726045
>advocating for the continuous bastardization of the English language perpetrated by those too thick-skulled to understand how to use "literally" correctly, so consistently that the English dictionary has just fucking given up and allowed for a way out for these lazy idiots to say that they're not technically incorrect with their usage of the word
And thus the death of intelligent language marches forward

>> No.52727132

>>52726208
That's quite the overreaction to a concept that essentially just boils down to "a literary joke (but with a fancy name)."

>> No.52730088

>>52693194
At least it's not ID.

>> No.52731335

Man it feels great to not support Tempus and their little fangirls in EN. I need the decline to accelerate

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