/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

PERTAMAX DIAMANKAN

VTL5 Timnasposting anchor time!

>Wanna add new players? ikuzo!
>Wanna model updates? ikuzo!
>Wanna new chants? ikuzo!
>New anthems and goalhorns? ikuzo!
>Wanna train yourself into the next STY? LFG!!

Yes, it's time for another musyawarah for our timnas, just reply this post with your suggestions and I'll try to put them on next thread as well as our sourcepost below
https://rentry.org/p8ger

Our Roadmap for VTL5 btw will be as follows
>July : Musyawarah
>Aug 11-12 : Randomized Tag Team Cup with /accelerate/ (/2434/-/NijiEN-/vsinger/)
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_Randomized_Tag_Team_Cup
>Aug 20, 2am WIB : Friendlies vs /holoX/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_5_Friendlies
>Sept 2-4, 9-11, 16-18 : VTL5
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_5

https://twitter.com/deidey16_/status/1674945916954984456

>>52571208
>Sex With Deidey
SEX SEX SEX I LOVE SEX WITH DEIDEY
SEX SEX SEX I LOVE SEX WITH DEIDEY
SEX SEX SEX I LOVE SEX WITH DEIDEY
ANAAAAAAAL SEX WITH DEEEEEIIIIIDEEEEEYYYYY
WIIIIIITH DEEEIIIDEEEYYY
SEXXX WITH DEEIIDEEYY
I LOVE SEX WITH DEIDEY
SO MUCH SEX SEX SEX
ANAL ANAL ANAL
SEX SEX SEX
ANAL SEX WITH DEIDEY

>>52571208
>Aug 11-12 : Randomized Tag Team Cup with /accelerate/ (/2434/-/NijiEN-/vsinger/)
What?

>>52571373
Basically it's a glorified preseason tarkam where VTL4 teams teamed up with each other, fyi, this is the full team list

>>52571488
why we got niji and not numbers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_y3nokZr2A
Lilian's One Piece is real!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzPuoAfTMs
Rorang Only Up

>>52571546
obv because we're not /BIG/ enough as a thread, /warkop/'s a slow thread after all

>>52571488
>glorified preseason tarkam

>>52571488
when the registration for VTL5 open?

>>52571811
Aug 1st, 7am WIB, so I'll end roster musyawarah around the midnight before, but for music and chants, I should be open for suggestion until around matchday

https://youtu.be/8q8bSvk9WWs
Saffiya Chimkin Steak
https://youtu.be/8YLMHHXBH7U
Epel ASFTU
https://youtu.be/WsgqATsUv20
Corryn FE Engage
https://youtu.be/sScq6uwL_hQ
Road to 6k Kkikothon
https://youtu.be/-DUmnVYBViI
Eat with Kawi

page 10 bump

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA

Ooooooo 4chan God, i pray to Thee. Please let this thread be full of Deisex lewd

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA. AMEN.

>>52571208
Letsgooooo it's that time again! I'm busy now so i'll post my full suggestion later, but our number 1 priority is still to FIX OUR FUCKING CHANT. I don't care how much you love your cringe Jokowi/Wibu chants Abi, but we need to remove that.

>>52574226
Praise Deisex lewd.
Amen.

>>52574226
May we'll be blessed with Deisex koicard soon
Amen

>>52571208
Some of my suggestions:
>put [Gluk Gluk Wattah] (Zen) into Hall of Fame (and he'll no longer in the squad)
>replace [Piggy Bank Thief] model with Risu's proper model
>change [Sex with Deidey] model
>change any cardboard models (if possible)
>put Zeta into perse/warkop/ to be alongside with Kobo and Ela

>>52575254
AMEN

Bumping Deidex's sexy ass

>>52575449
>put [Gluk Gluk Wattah] (Zen) into Hall of Fame (and he'll no longer in the squad)
>replace [Piggy Bank Thief] model with Risu's proper model
Sure
>change [Sex with Deidey] model
Koianon plis plis I need that card, I'll kneel if we can have the card before August
>change any cardboard models (if possible)
We'll see about that, we have to finalize the roster first
>put Zeta into perse/warkop/ to be alongside with Kobo and Ela
Gib her a meme name and I'll put her in, also do you want her in actual model or something else?

Azura freetalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEEb8FzZCck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em8z8CTHTp0

>>52577235
Use Zeta's actual model for her. About her name, I'm not really sure. Should >we show her PON side? Her cat side? Trying to translate her Indonesian meme into English?

>those hand track over her belly
Uh oh is she.... You know

>>52578101
TOO MUCH POMPA HAMIL

>>52578101
fat ? of course

>>52578161
>fat
anon is too young

>>52577726
who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXQXLCQHWMs
Ave Only Up but with a twist?
https://youtu.be/5UH1Z2FxSFc
Laika Outlast

https://youtu.be/cP-4aiWBczM
Leone Ngapex
https://youtu.be/7gziuQ06OWI
Happy 2.0 Lydia!

>>52577235
>Koianon plis plis I need that card
got a lot of freetime right now, just hope I could deliver in time

>>52580269
gambare, koianon!

>>52578101
>i-i dont care about her anymoreeee!! b-baka
tsundere anon

>>52578101
tha-that's not her belly, she just have saggy tits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xA7SMnlAVg
Tomio nihongo grind
https://youtu.be/WDm3StBjr0k
Kawi reviews your items

>>52571208
add alia as kambeng rebahan and echi as purple anomaly

>>52578101
OMG GUYS WE NEED TO TELL THE ENTIRE NORMIES COMMUNITY SO WE CAN STA- I MEAN CANCEL THIS LIAR BITCH!! SHE BELONG TO THE STREET FR FR!!

>>52571208
kek, should we add married woman for barisan sakit hati?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LviN-Uen0
Kokoro emel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjTzURoHjls
Nana menkrep

>>52585314
How would you visualize it for the model? A heart split in half or something else?

>>52585742
try using a nerd guy wearing a shirt with R in X on it, or just broken heart shirt to avoid controversy.

>>52584988
>SO WE CAN STA-
can what?

https://youtu.be/nSWE7BYgbvI

hmmmm ???? its familiar but im not sure

>>52588354
who?

>>52587625
stabbin, oshi no ko style

>>52588354
>>52588885
voice analysis: sounds a bit kinda too high for Bobon but... idk any other who'd sound similar. definitely not on Zen's register tho

>>52588885
>>52589196
idk hes a mod on the tiger lady channel

>>52589609
probably a metagrad? apparently a lot of nijigrads are now connected to them nowadays

>>52590140
Can't be. Only Janu is connected to them, and the other Meta grad is a she

>>52591796
So Tada aren't related to nijigrads?

>>52592476
I don't think so, and IIRC Tada hasn't graduated already? Voice-wise, the cover mentioned above is also quite different with how Tada sings

>>52578036
I can think of several:
>Pretty Overt, Nya~ (Beebs will have to say it, especially the Nya~)
>sus
>PONBAZO
>Darling for Everyone

>>52589162
you want her to die?

>>52571208
Some of my suggestions:
>Echi as Purple eggplant
>Kawi as Green Devil/Hulk's daughter
>Niji Mass Graduation (GK) as Mass graduations

>>52586276
I have a better idea: Moona’s model but with a knife through her stomach, blood pouring out of her mouth, her entrails hanging out.

>>52586276
>a shirt with R in X on it
does it mean something?

Sundul

bump

ngeseks subuh dengan deisex

>>52570862
Live

sundul page 9

>>52594793
>Mass graduations
Unfortunately that's a star player for /XtsunX/ so I don't think we can just steal their name or something

>>52604974
no

>>52592885
>>52592476
Can confirm through my voice analysis that it's not Tada. Looks like he's not related to the neo-TTRPG clique so far
and while at it I might as well answer >>52521985 so, I'm not the mod there, but i think it's public? a bit quiet now there tho.
and i just noticed, Harris Caine is also in the server

t. >52521383 >52518049

>>52594968
Seriously, get some help. It's not healthy being butthurt that far

miti miti miiiiiiiiii

preggo seggs with moon moon

>>52622034
netorare

>>52622288
wdym? iam her husbu

dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei dei

bump dikala kerjaan menumpuk


sometimes i do wonder which one is more tiresome than the other, dealing with corpo job or entertaining bunch of weebs?

>>52628864
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX

>>52635099
depends on the viewers, is it bocil windah or ex holo viewers?

>>52637874
the worst
bocil yanglek

so i've heard IDgirls mogging JP and EN in Connect za warudo concert. is there any concert link to prove this allegation?

>>52635099
Some would argue the latter, I can't check twitter because of melon but recently a couple of chuubas I know are ranting about having big ccv = harder time controlling the chat, some even expressing jealousy to 2views for reasons

>>52635099
>entertaining bunch of mouthbreather
>entertaining bunch of mouthbreather that likes anime
same shit

>>52640852
weird, in my case i found some vtubers are complaining about having low ccv and even threatening to graduate. if i my ask what vtuber youre referring to? ID or other region

>>52642451
IDs, I remember Sanil was one of them so check her twit if u can

>>52641884
if there's alfa / i-bay or other gachikois or mediashare thrower among those viewers, it will not be the same.

>>52643171
>reading sanil tweet
literally a menhera jesas

>>52643195
if you think about it, your boss is basically your highest-tier members
they have like, 30 tier 3 subs on your channel

so same shit

>>52635099
same. have to postponed the Q2 infographics. continuing from last thread, i still want to integrate ID clipper X ID VTubers by creating a market page. the idea is:

1. Normalize viewers giving gift (in the form of clip video) to vtuber.
2. VTuber can easily browse clipper market = more sale for clipper = more views for vtuber

there is no a specific "VTuber Clipper market" website as far as i know in EN/JP isnt it ?

>>52645612
but how would you categorize this clipper? some clipper is fast as the stream done they've already uploaded some clips (usually with only text and low edit), some clipper would upload abit later but with more funny edit, context, etc

>>52646537
cant do any categorization if there is no much ID clipper opening their commission publicly. So for now is how to collect all vtuber clipper commission page. there is only 3 clipper with their commission page displayed on vtuber asia. Clipper isnt like arts commission; they lurk in discord, a place that i dont go often. or is there any list of paid vtuber clipper out there that i didnt know ?

https://youtu.be/XCkCbEAd99I
HoloID concert

>>52648895
>ASIA
>VTuber.Asia

>>52648895
> Presented by VRChat, get ready for hololive Meet's first ever 3D concert tour in Asia!

so its gonna be polygonal model or the chibi one?

>>52649680
Judging from the silhouettes seems like it's gonna be polygonal

>>52649242
>VRchat
>VRchama
All me

>>52648895
perfect opportunity.
they're just adding more salt to nijikek.
lmao

>>52648895
Great choice of members

>>52652106
basically the singers of ID

https://youtu.be/k6nPv4L0eXY
Zoey ASMR

>>52648895
Kobo curang

Uh-oh!

>>52648895
Does this mean that the management isn't confident of the purchasing power of the ID market so they're selling the talents throughout Asia?
Kinda sad to be honest, but it's acceptable.

But not really, who knows maybe Holo ID Expo can be very profitable, the problem is if the management has the balls to try that or not.

>>52640010
You new here? Just wait for someone to upload it to a certain Japanese pop culture piracy website.

>>52655615
We are poor anon. if its not for the akasupa from JP fans, yuropedos, etc, its impossible for ID to have their own 3D concert. For now, its profitable as long the ID cater to the EN/JP market too. best we can do is to buy holo ID merch / concert ticket / join membership etc

>>52655615
It's depend how the concert & the marketing/promotion strategy. For example, maybe for the concert even tho maybe it's pre-recorder talent performance on the stage can make it looks more interactive & looks hype, for the marketing & promotion, good concept, promote in multi social media platform, with good communication & smooth CTA.

>>52645612
>2. VTuber can easily browse clipper market = more sale for clipper = more views for vtuber
basically LSF kek tho we need it for ID streaming in general because thats the fastest way to increase engagement (drama)

>>52657304
*good communication or message

>>52655615
Our buying power weakens a lot this year, that's why jkw pushed a long ass idul adha holiday last week, maybe holofans and gachis will spend more for their oshis but your regular non weeb IDchamas spends less this year than prev years and that's what cover sees

>>52656538
I don't know man, all the concerts with hundreds of dollars worth per ticket always sold out, and Holo Expo is like, what? $70?
Argument like this is like pre-Kobo argument of "ID market doesn't exist yet, it's better to pander to EN and JP audiences". I call bullshit, it's just a matter of strategy and marketing like this guy said >>52657304, with the right one they will succeed.

For example, instead of Rp 1M per ticket maybe make it Rp 300K but with venue 3 times bigger than current JP or EN concert, that would be affordable for most ID fans. Remember how Kobo at her peak had hundreds of $1-$5 donations per stream.

We are poor but not that poor, Jakarta's GDP per capita alone is around $20K, that's Rp300M income per year on average. Indonesia is very unequal, with people in rural Jateng only makes Rp2M per month, but of course HoloID Expo won't be held in Wonogiri right?

>holoro 3D showcase incoming
>holoID VR concert just announced
>all of holoID confirmed to participate in holosummer concert
>and all of them will get swimsuit
feels good to be a holochad

>>52658916
Yeah, we don't need look at poor side of our country, we should just focus on 15 millions population from Jabodetabek and the rest big cities (rich people who want go to Jakarta). We already discussed about our music market in preveous mounth threads. We are top 5 Spotify listeners in the world, and our people love to join & hyping concert events especially youth demography. In Jabodetabek every week we have a concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-HLDMxf1-s
Lala tetris 99

>>52659231
wait, I thought /warkop/ was all about inclusivity?

>>52658916
check out the holoidcaf3 case for this matter, does it soldout ? some time slot are soldout yes, others are not. The cafe is a trial for pre-concert. Not saying that holoidcafe isnt a success, it is in a way, but cover need more IRL enthusiasm. There are reason why Yagoo bluntly said that SEA market isnt profitable yet. Look, is there any ID talents got sponsor from ID giant companies ? ID giant media ?

ID market does exist but focus should be still on EN. And ID should cater to EN as well. its a safe and easy way for ID branch to gain more monies. Finger cross ID 4 could gain more high-earning ID normies even more.

>>52659693
No I mean, when someone always talk about how poor ID, they are usually look at our economic in general. In fact, many gamers, weebs, Vtuber fans lived in big cities, which is the main audience with has better income.

And if HoloID make concert, of course it will be only in Jakarta due to infrastructure & technology support.

>>52659839
https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1656311632916779008
https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1655071135028092929

as i have mentioned, i will be very happy if we got bigger screen on next CF. There are reason i keep tagging yagoo on twitter about CF because that place is our only hope for a proper ID concert.

>>52659870
true, come to think of it, if indie ones could get a good amount of money (from sawer/merch) i think its better to say our buying power is not that low
yes, not all wibu would throw money at something that's not mainstream (topeng kaneki misalnya), but usually those kind of wibu doesn't watch vtuber anyway
although i think we're in a safe territory, but maybe staff-san should boost their promotion, bigger than holocafe, make it known as "THE FIRST AND ONLY" *lol , as exagerated as it could, just in case the local fanbase is not enought maybe it could create FOMO for normalfags or other content creator

just like this one mom who review holocafe because of her son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LylpEDbjVQE&pp=ygUPcmV2aWV3IGhvbG9jYWZl

>>52660356
wait, wrong link lol

talk alot about Indonesian music market & how like to come to concert, especially in central region
>>/vt/thread/49041536#p49142708
>>/vt/thread/48846480#p48923181

bump

>>52659059
just you wait anon... roda selalu berputar......

>>52663788
the revival of nijiID ???
yeah, they're gonna debut under AOI ID

>>52663788
Speaking of that..
Say hello to the newest 6digit subs IDchuuba, our very own /here/ Cupang!
What'll you say to her as /warkop/chamas?
https://twitter.com/AiriCordelia/status/1675777473748041730

>>52660926
>Warosu
Stop spoon-feeding newfags

>>52655615
>the management isn't confident of the purchasing power of the ID market
They need to learn how to foster gachis from K-Pop industry
indonesian Kpopfags prove otherwise

>>52665665
you forgot that kpop fans are predominantly female with more money to splurge than financial sense

>>52665741
nta but I guess this is why cover are investing to get more femfans in holopro for next year
So are cover really going to bet on starsID then?

>>52665891
>spoiler
Well, there are some questions that YAGOO has to answer:
1. How to introduce VTubers to females? Especially those who aren't weebs.
2. What VTuber can offer that atleast in the same pleasure as being a fan of KPOP, even better?
3. How to make them into loyal fans, to the point you can see them put numerous oshi marks on their Twitter account name?

>>52665741
But what makes them like that?
K-Pop industry know how to make things exiting. New concept, makeup, fashion and hairstyles each comeback. It's expensive but all those splurging are worth it since it foster strong female fanbase. At least splurge for more music goddamnit
>>52665891
>starsID
That's unlikely because they already got starsEN/tempus. ID speaking market is unworthy, right?

>>52665294
what did the kikebookfags accomplished back then? nothing, it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSldJZydjmk
Kyuthon time

>>52666089
the answer is simple "By Music"
"aku mau bicara soal musik
tentu saja bagi penggemar musik"
just as Rhoma Irama said, music unite as all

>>52665294
>Subscriber
Bots
Just like Akemi

>>52666485
starsID should have people like Andi Adinata but more productive (and maybe more talented), then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvwUYDwV5U4

Or, try to see what ORION from Algorhythm Project (Thailand agency) is doing. Some of their boys even mog some of Holostars in terms of numbers. Do you have more info on this, VRchama?

>>52655615
Money aside, it seems like ID viewers aren't intense/enthusiastic enough (don't start a spiel about unhealthy relationship, I'm just pointing out why ID market is weak from my POV)
Oshi culture is quite weak in ID
Nowadays, people in big cities are leaning to consumerism culture but the majority of ID are still people with rational mind at the core, most people aren't willing to spend for something deemed as unnecessary such as overpriced merch especially if a cheaper option or free is available
It's the sense of attachment that will make people more lax in spending money for their oshi, but I can't really sense an attachment from HoloID community

>Mengapa Idol Culture di Indonesia lebih toleran dari Jepang?
>Karena budaya kita sebenarnya, lebih superior di bandingkan orang jepang dan korsel.
https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/sqijyy/mengapa_idol_culture_di_indonesia_lebih_toleran/

>>52666652
Not vrchama but all Orion boys can sing unlike Tempus and NijiEN.
They are also Thai which is more appealing than indo guys

>>52655615
just look at kobo merch Zeta and Ela merch already sold out.
Management use Kobo fans who majority are Indonesia as benchmark.
if we use ID standard of course Kobo revenue is successful but comparing her to her genmate or other branch Kobo revenue is low

>>52666894
>Orion boys can sing unlike Tempus
this is why i don't understand yagoo decision
while nijiEN pander to gfe bait, yaoi bait, tempus doesn't really have a strong point
boys will be boys moment? nope, not silly enough to me
bro-tuber? i don't want to listen to ragus voice and thinking he's my bro, thats gay-lvl of fucked up
male idol moment? almost all of them doesn't really sing that well compared to starsJP

>>52666848
nah ADMIT IT THAT WE'RE KEK

>>52667264
kek

>>52667319
i never realize chuuck was sensored

>>52666652
yes i notice that male Thai are more popular than ID in their each kandang. i dont know why

>>52666906
Do you thing if Zeta & Ela make a solo concert, people from overseas want to watch them?

>>52666652
>That clip
Oot
Bocil benders are good future dads and moms
I believe in bocil benders/shepherds supremacy

>>52666089
No need for Stars ID for now. its a super hard market to breach + it can be a total failure unlike Tempussy. Yagoo cant afford a worst case scenario whereas an ID Star has less than 300 ccv. But if ID gen 4 manage to penetrate mainstream media somehow, then perhaps.

No, Harris Caine case are exceptional, it cannot be duplicated into Star ID.

>>52667444
Female VTubers that can discipline their underage audience and rarely go into mental breakdown because of them are the true hag, even if they're not hag yet.

>>52667389
obviously not

i found it funny that from this >>52655615, i thought the discussion would lean towards the EN lite vs ID debacle, but then it swings to starsID instantly. no complain tho, its just funny to me.
never change warkop

>>52668423
It can be the inspiration for perse/warkop/ new players. Put "HOLOSTARS ID WHEN?" on the squad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJK8yKnfQM0
Verme adu FPS

>>52666906
By that logic Zeta is more popular than Gura since she sold out faster

>>52668423
Blame this anon >>52665891
There's no market for ID chuubas except for pandering as EN-lite
It's officially over for us
No new branch
No new debuts
ID4 will be the last HoloID
You all better hone your English skill to compete for HoloEN slot

>>52667386
The same reason why they have 2 48s there, they have the strongest oshi culture in SEA

>>52668423
>NijiID sister's oshi graduated
>A question from last thread asking for male chuuba recommendations
Someone is desperate for new oshi

If you want to use HoloID for your culture war then go ahead, but I'm not joining your culture war
With HoloID, it feels like a lot of people are more attached to the ID part rather than the Holo part
Case in point >>>>52666848
You can justify going on an expensive vacation trip as a way to help keeping your mental wellbeing in check, expensive apparels to showoff your status, expensive food to enrich your experience, etc
What about overpriced merch and/or online ticket concerts?
If you only want merch, knockoffs or custom made stuff with a much cheaper price are available on eccommerce
Online concerts? You can sail the high seas
A lot of people justify buying overpriced merch and/or online ticket concerts for their oshi
Without hardcore fans, HoloID can't reach its full potential
If HoloID wants to reach a greater height, they need to cultivate hardcore fans
It's true that it can be a double edged sword, but either take a risk or stay with the status quo
I won’t deny that there are people that seems to forget to do a reality check and think they got a chance to date their idols, but initially, supporting an idol isn't supposed to be like that
It's mostly about selling hopes and dreams with sprinkles of fan services

>>52668771
yeah, seems that the case. i always wonder what the Thai vtuber culture looks like. do they attracts tons of ex Idols into vtuber or what. if you follow @RikiNozomu at twitter, you can probably see that there are many Thai Vtuber in twitter

>>52666144
>But what makes them like that?
because they are female, simple as.
on the same level probably there is idol gachikois. we also have our fair share of wotas that build altars of their oshi, yet i don't see them anywhere in vtuber spheres. at least idol wotas i know doesnt seems interested in vtuber idols at all. what's up with that?

>muh gachikois
>muh poorfag indons
here we go again
yall like them boomers saying artist ain't a real job
give it time, we're 2-8 years behind after all, and we just started inclining

>>52669591
your statement aint going to magically put moneys out of indo weebs pocket anon

>>52669153
>With HoloID, it feels like a lot of people are more attached to the ID part rather than the Holo part
You can thank years of PPKn classes and countless flag-raising ceremonies for that.

>If HoloID wants to reach a greater height, they need to cultivate hardcore fans
That means the parasocial relationship is inherent to the business model. What really grinds my gear is some Hololive fans that insist the parasocial relationship is bad while consuming the very same media. It's painful to deny something that's obvious. If you're compelled to stay with your oshi despite all of the drama (be it real or nothingburger) and somehow feel bad to even leave her, then you're parasocial. If you're willing to defend your oshi on SNS (like KHolosimp, a Vietnamese, did) or even on this Maduranese steel-harvesting forum while you're not even a real friend to her, then you're parasocial.

>>52669708
I think the mindset is why spend on merch/donos when you barely have any for food.

>>52669591
Yeah, vtuber fans are mostly teens to young adults.
Just give it times for them to grow and also have bigger income.

>>52668541
meh, StarsEN not worth an EF class
am gonna join Vshojo if they suddenly open recruitment for male member

>>52669726
had the same mindset when i create vtuber.asia. The reason for #VTuberID or #VTuberXX is to promote centrality + unified community = sense of belongingness + bigger community. easier to lurk, easier to understand, easier network, easier to grow. with all the drama ofc.

Also, MY community still separated based on language (EN X MY X CN).

You also can see the differential between JP & EN vs ID behavior/life style of audience. Despate win in purchasing power, JP & EN side audience also more freedom mostly them live alone, while many Indonesian at 20-30 y.o still live with parent or still must store money to the parent.

>>52669822
solution for this, especially to non holo vtuber, is another "mediashare" a.k.a another type of donation. But to make this happen, content creator have to bring trakteer/saweria together and discuss it.

Should they Gamify their donation platform, we can See another increase in donations just like the mediashare explosion in the past year. Trakteer seems understand this and we should wait what they have for vtuber. I bet my ass they want to get another capital funding

Source: my dreams

>>52669708
Ok boomer
You can cry drawing won't make money all you want while I'm making triples you do drawing furries

>>52669708
It's not like we're as poor as the average Sub-Saharan African.

you guys thinking too far, use Gema concert as benchmark first
is it sold out?
how many peoples attend the concert?
is 200k good price for glorified projector?
start from the bottom first before tackling multi billions company

>>52670045
>he doesnt watch his oshi with his parents in the living room

>>52670154
fkn trakteer doesn't even support master/visa cards. I need to support my favorite IDtubers

>>52670292
use kris, anon.
unless you don't live here.

>>52670340
No I don't. baka

>>52670205
Finally, someone is speaking some sense.

>>52670205
too early to tell, sell period ends in aug 31 for an oct 21 concert, but I believe it was mentioned that she only sells like 140 tickets

>>52670366
your fault, bahlul.

lmao there is a reason Coldplay held concerts for 5 days in Singapore and only do 1 day in Indo, Indonesia have bigger population yet can't guaranteed 5 days concert to be sold out
and (you) expecting HoloID concert even hoping for them to reduce the ticket price kek, it's hatsune miku all over again

>>52670710
Yea stfu, goblok.

>>52670292
>>52670366
>>52670340
i wonder if regnbue can help you with that. it's a middleman business but still, business is business; there's demand for dono assistance, there's a chance for someone to help with that

>>52670205
its more like 100k
200k is for the merch extra but whatev
cant use twitter coz melon so any stats on that?
coz for the love of god i cant even pretend to buy it coz loket stuck in loading so i cant see whether theres any ticket left

ID don't need concert. Making music is useless, juat end up become trash & got forgotten. After you graduate, you will become nobody, you will got forgotten. Got accepted in Cover Corp as the biggest Vtuber company in the world is 1 chance of life, ID talent better to use that priode of life in Hololive for farm money from gachikoi's.

>>52670825
Thanks but I don't see any option. Guess I'm back to supas then.

>>52671072
Thanks for the 30%
t. Youtube

>>52670751
https://katadata.co.id/lavinda/digital/6466fc141cd78/war-tiket-coldplay-situs-resmi-dikunjungi-1-7-juta-pengguna-per-menit
Retard

>>52670751
Holy retard

>>52671046
>After you graduate, you will become nobody, you will got forgotten
remind me of OG JKT48 only Melody stay relevant
>ID talent better to use that priode of life in Hololive for farm money from gachikoi'
i can see Kaela in this situation poor girl

>>52670751
sg ticket sold out because of indonesian tho, somehow the ticket was cheaper in sg. also, even tho ids ticket were more expensive than sg, it was already sold out in less than 2 hours
https://jogja.tribunnews.com/2023/05/19/tiket-konser-coldplay-di-jakarta-resmi-sold-out-dalam-15-jam-antrian-membludak

>>52671303
>Kaela poor girl
Are you sure? She gainmore SC than the rest of members. Better than spent the money for garbage song or dreaming for make a concert.

>>52670163
youre projecting too much. being this delusional wont help ID market at all. wake up.

>>52671407
>Better than spent the money for garbage song or dreaming for make a concert
this is true, kaela can't sing. so nobody want to hear her song. so she should better spend her money on elsewhere than trying so hard on singing just to ended up getting disappointed

>>52671407
thats my point she cant sing, cant dance and suck at vidya but at least she have the skill to entertain lonely man who stuck in eternal wagie life
joining Hololive save this poor girl life

>>52671419
And being an armchair economist in traditional tibetian butterfly catching forum help ID market?
Are you cover interns? You can't bait me into releasing my master thesis on virtual youtubers here.

>>52671547
Her family already rich and she saving the money more than 1m from works, even before joining Hololive anon. She go to college in overseas.

>>52671590
>And being an armchair economist in traditional tibetian butterfly catching forum help ID market?
yes, if you missed the memo this is the most influential board in the industry.

>>52669591
Hardcore fans don't always mean they are gachis

>>52669726
>That means the parasocial relationship is inherent to the business model.
People are in denial due to the negative connotation of parasocial and not understanding what it means
Newfags keep twisting the meaning of parasocial and think parasocial relationship is only exclusive to romantic feelings
If you think you have some sort of connection to some strangers online, you're already in a parasocial relationship
In normal circumstances, people are more likely to spend their money for their friends, families, and lover over some strangers
Would you spend your money and/or time excessively for some strangers unless you're overly attached?
There are negatives from being parasocial, but there are also positives from being parasocial
It heavily depends on your mindset, though

>>52671776
Then thats all the more reason that you stop being delusional and see the ID market for what it is, foreigner-kun.
We dont have pregnant goats in our neighbourhood anymore. For the most part.
We have spending power.

>>52670751
Maybe this can be reference on how promoter works
https://twitter.com/mosidik/status/1669498006897577984

>>52672089
>foreigner-kun
im flattered, but ok schizo

>>52671523
She already on the right track. Vtuber music is garbage, especially if it released from such inferior branch. It's useless how much effort you give in whole of uour life for music career if you born as Vtuber from Indonesia.

https://youtu.be/kHVnl0fHTQ8
A jam session by some familiar voices.

>>52672239
>he actually have pregnant goats in his neighborhood

>>52672246
I will topless kneeling if there are a ID Vtuber who can't reach 20M viewers MV song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHK1Cw5eG10
Wyne Shadowverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnOtECAYyG8
Happy 100k Cupang!

>>52672336
can reach

>>52672268
kek, how fitting of this to be nijigrads' anthem, suits them like 100%

>>52672336
thats fucking cheap
i already did topless kneeling when holoid got 3d last time

>>52672635
proof or hoax

>>52672534
>>52672268
At least the good outcome of all this is they meet their own people, gotta owe it to ID Staff-san forever

>>52672656
U4v2UhLCFC8

>>52672856
what is it anon?

>>52672336
bro Moona perisau jitu can't hit 10 mil

>>52672268
what the helll awokwaokakowkoawkoawkoaw
kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ROTLC24xxI
Meedy ngepunk

>>52672268
mantab mamang

how the fuck do we have so many lucrative cults and yet vtuber cant even break even

>>52670751
SG doesn't have a massive ormas protesting coldplay concert because of lgbtshit

>>52671693
>overseas
i don't count that as overseas

>>52673110
>Moona
of course, what do you expect? even ridu and kobo sing it better live

>>52674647
>massive ormas
I don't think FPI is as big as it used to be. The new leader is just not as charismatic as the previous one does.

>>52674647
this ormas represent all of Indonesia?

>>52674647
>massive ormas
>massive
kek, they're only as big as 2view vtuber

>>52672268
Kekw, good one anon. I was tempted to post the link myself, but I was banned last time I stealth post rm stuffs I blame /moon/ jannies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRZpqCW-gE
Gaby Jamming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdmU_8O-wdQ
Lydia Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqod58pfLV8
Hera genchink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bXfzsYmbA
Same with Echi, also genchink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGd_YUuqKpE
Ditaanyan Only Up

Why isn't she do more coomerbait stuffs like this, and instead focused her whole chuuba shtick as sweaty gamer?

>>52671158
>dikunjungi
Cuma dikunjungi beli kagak wkwk

https://youtu.be/Du9ajlEQUMY
Meissa ngobrol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du9ajlEQUMY
Meissa says hello
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JWV-DCzPxE
Katya asks how's Monday?

https://www.youtube.com/live/aQJEfe4MyTk?feature=share

Gema plays sakura skool simulator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBAoxvYER6E
Daisy tutorial review

>>52676276
coz doing coomerbait stuff cringe her out duh

>>52675209
>>52675519
>>52675576
I'm talking about MUI retard, not FPI. >>52676401
classic retarded indogs malas membaca >>52671370

>Miskin people are lazyfag
Not a surprise at all. Just because you're a poor nigger doesn't mean all Indonesians are like you. Stop projecting yourself into everyone.

>>52678734
.....MUI is an ormas?

>>52678830
You didn't know?

>>52678963
wait wtf, its not lembaga negara?

>>52678821
turn out we're actually inclining. yagoo was right lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO71b_S6VDo

>>52678830
yes, thats why they are talking shit only.

>>52679016
Of course not.
But MUI is special because they can issue halal sertificate.

>>52679047
nah meeen, never take it without grain of salt
real sector (retail) still doomed, many phk especially from those unicorn startups

>>52679016
did you one of those people whose always whinning "kenapa mui gak bubarin x?" "kenapa mui lambat penindakan x ?". mui is a fucking ormas, yeah its a bit " special ormas" but still just an ormas not something something official

>>52679182
>>52679194
So thats fucking why they took literally forever issuing them halal certs
Like holy shit, of course they do, their main gig is talking shit
Good grief thank god theyre now replacd

>>52679356
tsk tsk tsk, them retailers just wisen up and realizes that they can just sell product directly to people instead of using platform that requires ever bigger slice of pie
but seriously, like, how the fuck streaming flash sale somehow decently popular

>>52678734
There is no context given and there is nothing in the post you quoted nor the news article that mentions MUI in any form. Ormas who is vocal about boycotting Coldplay is the reincarnated FPI and everyone knows about this. What the hell are you on about?

so after coping with GDP etc, why the management still dont want to held HoloID concert?
the reality majority indonesia are poor and anon can't accept this fact

>>52680152
Yeah, include you, your poor family

>>52680152
yep, just take an example from coldplay and why they actually don't want to prolong concert in indo
> perijinan ribet (first world problem doing any event in indo)
> dipalak pajak daerah (blame whoever the fuck govern jakarta right now, ticket price become expensive because this kind of people)
> Indo tidak cukup "ESG" (yeah, fuck you and your green policy, i like it dirty lol)
> calo ordal (probably staff or even the promotor itself)
> terancam batal piala dunia (yeah, you heard it right, another football bullshit)

and this isn't exclusive for coldplay, i've seen it happens on k-pop concert too sometimes

so yeah tl;dr
udah negara ribet, miskin, banyak mau pula

>>52680573
yeah, and we are all living in a poor country

>>52680654
ummm, so the reason wasn't because of the fact that indonesia is a poor country?

>>52680654
oh look at all those reasons that DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE IT'S VIRTUAL CONCERT

>>52680887
Don't drag in me, you poorfaggot. Ew, wibu miskin. Gw sih bisa beli tiket.

>>52680152
our random cult with like, 1k followers can built a fucking skyscraper with just the member's donation
checkmate non-believers

>>52681300
don't be rude anon, these wibu miskin is still fairly young. they're in the stage of self-hating right now. I've been through that stage, they just need to grow up. we're in the state of demography bonus right now, so there'll be a lot more bocil like this in the future.

>>52681300
i only saying we're living in a poor country....
so you're not living in indonesia? good bahasa you got there eurofag

>>52681544
Demography bonus doesn't mean shit when there are not enough jobs

>>52681756
>there are not enough jobs
what gives you this impression, anon
we from bumn always welcome new slave-- i mean, employee with open hand

>>52681756
the chink beg your pardon, they're regretting their 1 child policy decision right now

>>52681852
>we from bumn always welcome new slave-- i mean, employee with open hand

pfft, i mean yeaah yeaah for sure, another open lowker for "orang dalam"

>>52681756
your president is trying really hard right now, so stop being lazyfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P00lYh6Tgxk

even the diva herself begging you to save up for this kek

https://twitter.com/ayunda_risu/status/1675742578866810882

>>52682024
hush, that for managerial level position only
we still requires secretary, accountant, clerk, sales, and stuff, you know, people that actually make the business works while we're doing our regular business outing

>>52682177
wait, the detailed information coming next month
yet why are we debating this shit in the first place lol

>>52682090
I'm never counting or expecting on goverments even for 1 penny, but i'm not lazyshit & social reject as like wibu miskin.

>>52682275
its the classic "oh shit! holos actually have stuff? better gosip them" ignoring other happening on vtuber community because they have less traffic. doesnt care how much projection or oppinion people have made for them, in the end its still a W for holo.

>>52682248
>secretary
for BBS bobo siang with the boss

>>52682387
iam rich. and i proudly say i have 3 lambos and having 6 figure job
yet i only say this on anonymous forum kek

you and wibu miskin doesn't have differences here, you are all retard who couldn't prove anything

>>52682679
the consequences of having multiple "W"

>>52682820
BANGUN BAMBANG UDAH SIANG!!!!!

>>52682933
iam no bambang anon
iam DEISEX

>>52683080
IMMA FUCK YOU DEISEX
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>>52684566
>no one wants to make this a VN and send it to Deidey via mediashare or if she ever open the form asking her viewers' voice
ngmi
No, don't ask me. My voice is already known to another VTuber and the VOD is still there.

>>52685055
did you the one who made that deidey wangy wangy sound?

>>52685253
No. I did submit my voice to that stream (I just remember that Deidey also already knew my voice), but not that wangy-wangy VN.

>>52685764
what did you send to her?

>>52685891
Nothing weird. No, I won't show myself in this rice-harvesting forum.

>>52686112
i bet you're that wangy wangy guy lol

>>52668470
kek, any idea how it should look like on the field?

sundul page 10

>>52668470
>Making us homobeggars
I don't want starsID, if they are just EN-lite because I'm a numberfag who worship CCV
Why don't you guys try the audition for tempus instead and stop begging for starsID?

>>52648895
It's really HoloID's turn this year for a VRChat event, huh.
No full announcement until August but let's see if it surpasses the Virtual Summit from 2 years ago
Here are some archives:

- Suzune Corryn visits Virtual Summit
https://youtu.be/monWurcr2pk (pt1)
https://youtu.be/QzUUpEnk4gA (pt2)

- Salam [Nobodyknows ID] wtf who is this 121k subs guy and how did he reach that? visits Virtual Summit
https://youtu.be/GLUOzm00nOU

t. that one guy who jumped ship to another fandom

>>52695755
lol I thought we claim that we're not parasocial fucks like the westies? Or it's just a lie?

>>52695755
>I'm a numberfag who worship CCV
We worship dead subs here

Bumps

>>52698939
>We claim
At least I never claim that shit
If you gonna debut then you better pull up, grind to that 10k average CCV and make me proud. if you are just gonna end up as embarrassing 2view EN-lite who leeches off tempus and debuff HoloID, then don't beg for a new ID branch which you never gonna watch.
Our raspberry regulars Flayon and Axel gets low 3views without raids. Do you think you can get more than that as EN-lite? No fucking way
But if you are determined to prove that ID market is worth it, then I'm gonna support you
The way I see it the anon who begs for StarsID doesn't have enough ability to pass StarsEN audition so he/they want special quota made for Indonesian people

>>52702979
>10K average CCV
You set unrealistic expectation because you want them to fail.
You're a terrible person.

>>52703761
It's not unrealistic because Kobo already broke it once
Because she's a girl some people don't like it when she's cursing too much or collab with males, but a male chuuba won't have that kind of limitations

>>52703875
Still unrealistic expectation

>>52703875
theres a world difference between once and on average, anon

selamat pagi para pemuja DEISEX

>>52707476

>>52707476
Kobo got plenty of 10k median peaks, but for average I remember it's only once. cmiiw

>>52706500
How?

>>52695755
Lets be real, they want starsID because it is hololive. If our male chuba is as succesfull as they said. Hololive will naturally create starsID the same as they copy nijiEN with tempus.
But with that said, please go back to your own containment numberfag. I hate you and your shitty CCV race.

>>52708544
Hard to call it 10k average when it's only 4 days of data, and the only reason why Kobo is there but not Zeta is because she had to restart her Raft stream so it counts as 5 stream while Zeta only had 4 streams in March, and if she did count then she would have around 15k average.

>>52681721
>bahasa
kill yourself filthy jaksel nigger

>>52707476
>>52708544
>>52709171
nta, but i think the whole point is that a male kobo won't have to deal with the problem Kobo faced, so it should be possible if cover actually managed to find the right person (which is easier said than done).

her viewers are mostly weebs now, but at her peak it's full of normies tourists.

why people want StarsID? is the one who want them femanon? coz the way i see it, male youtuber is funnier without hiding in avatar, be it ugly or not, if they are entertaining, surely many will watch them

>>52709542
it's manca fag

>>52709542
It's men who want to get in to fuck their oshis

>>52709943
what? they want StarsID to be like assylum circle? loud dirty jokes equal funny?

>>52710031
understandable, i will apply too hoping to get some fun with idgirls no, its not sex believe me

>>52708293
>>52708544
that's what i'm saying
do you really think all 3-4 members of the hypothetical new experimental branch of starsID would all immediately outclass kobo?
is that not setting the expectation skyhigh

>>52709542
They just want their favourite indie to have blue doritos logo

>>52709513
Yes. Finally someone understand it.
I'm not 100% against holostars ID, I could see the advantage of male chuubas that female chuubas don't have. Either you do debut it with a bang or just don't at all. L
Call me conservative, but I don't like it when males are carried by females, I just think it's pathetic.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally against EN pandering but somehow the ID males who are interested in joining holostars so far have that kind of beta mindset of contemplacy and don't want to expand and take risks in exploring ID market, it disappoints me. I understand if HoloID girls don't want to take a risk, because they are girls
>>52709542
Probably Taka and zen fags and /here/ male chuubas
>>52710737
I don't expect them to get that number right off the bat after debut. But if they have such drive and ambition to do it, i'll respect that hustle. I think of it as a very macho thing to do. I think their employers would like it too

>>52712585
Not wrong. It's up to Cover or Yagoo, wether they want to take a risk or not? And how much loss they are willing to take.

https://monomaniastore.com/
Any anon here ever bought things from this proxy? Any issue with it?

>>52708174
good morning, i drink deidey's milk fresh from the source every morning

>>52713103
They already take a big risk with tempus, at the cost of EN3
I don't know if they gonna do idstars or not but the chance of it is very small. Even some /warkop/ anons here don't think that ID market is worthy/profitable

>>52713936
I don't think Tempus is at the cost of EN3. Imo cover is too careful of looking for EN3talent to avoid shit shows like what happened in Niji. Not to mention a godlike expectation of western audience.

It's impressive already that they are willing to release ID4.

Was Kobo supposed to stay this long in Japan? Did management tell her to stay in Japan longer?

>>52717362
I always thought she will only stay for 2 weeks top.
But Moona, Iofi, Ollie and Reine is still in Japan too right?

>>52717362
why are you so obsessed?
dont worry yagoo wont sell her to a child brothel

>>52717728
she's hunting gyaru-oh and ikemen.
it's a sex tour.

>>52716533
If the ID market countinous to be this unprofitable maybe ID4 will be the last gen.

>>52719321
is holoID market really this unprofitable?
i thought all the merch got sold out and shits

>>52716533
>I don't think Tempus is at the cost of EN3
They missed that Sana graduation buff. Most HoloENs are barely 5 digits chuubas now. They reclined a lot. I think EN3 will further cannibalize their audience unless they get a superstar

>>52719988
>unless they get a superstar
belle delphine as vtuber LFG!!!

>>52719709
It's profitable but not anywhere near JP and EN. I'm just happy with the fact that merch, cafe thing, etc are often sold out. This gonna keep Holo ID operating.

>>52719709
Let me grimposting
I'm thankful for all EOPs who supports HoloID but it's like putting a brown hansaplast over a third degree burn wounds. It's a temporary solution that won't permanently heal it

>>52720253
AVRIL LAVIGNE

>>52720880
what's your criteria for being profitable, anon?
are you sure you ain't just blinded by those poorfags projecting and mistake a perfectly normal skin as third degree burn wound?

>>52717635
Moona and Iofi is in Japan because they're HoloID's representative in holosummer and ID2 is having their 3D showcase this month, Kobo doesn't really have any business there.

>>52721347
>Kobo doesn't really have any business there.
You forgor viv:ID cruises anon, that's a 3D event so I think she's there for that