/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Well yeah they make so much money they can have a couple of 2views in the team.

It helps that their competition keeps finding new and creative ways to commit brand suicide

>>52565128
>>Never fired anyone for underperforming even if there is such thing as that in the business
why would he? he already paid for the assets, even the lowest make enough to at least cover their base salary

I like how this specifically pertains to pushing homos and not to, say, the lower placements of either ID or JP.

>>52565128
There really should be a 1-2 streams a week rule that is actually enforced. Shion and Ayame and Gura are abusing the fact that they can get away with it.

Suisei, Azki and Miko were low performers once upon a time.

>>52565128
Of course they're wrong. When were they ever right about anything?

>>52565128
>Could it be that maybe the Numberfags and Unicorns are wrong?
Why would those schizos be right?
>>52565495
This. It's 50% luck anyway, since YAGOO will keep the support coming, they just need to keep grinding and one day they'll become big.

We are not mad that the members are underperforming, we are mad that this company is wasting its time, money and resources on stupid shit.
Cover is a million dollar company that could be a billion dollar one if he just stuck to his Idol bread and butter but no, he had to pander to the shitty twittards and bring in a shitty male side fucking up his company
Girls who collab with them underperform, money is wasted on artists, concert setups and merch for them that won't bring back any money, and the girls who have absolutely no interest in them suffer because their hard earned money they do from streaming goes to this shithole of a branch
I am a Gura guy, and I can see why she doesn't want to stream as often, she is probably pissed her hard work goes to that failure of a branch or to keep whores like Kronii and Ollie since they are underperforming due to their addiction to male collabs.

>>52565471
If one of my workers can give me hunderds of thousands of dollars by just existing then idgaf

>>52565777
Checked!

This is called the law of attraction.
If you believe in something and work towards it it will eventually manifest to reality.

Miko was unsure when she started, but then she had an awakening and accepted her childish side which was her treasure.
That's what makes her special and shine, which then generated her success.

AZKi didn't get the spotlight until later in her career, but her positive mindset only needed to get an opportunity to shine, after she started believing in herself and her ability to keep doing her best on her own.

>>52565495
Many forget this fact. Also I dont think there is a talent that does really horribly

>>52565777
Yeah just look at Flare, never changed her spoiled shitty attitude or her shitty rules and about to and not to do and she was able to magically pull 8k subs to help her finally get to a Million subs in an hour of making a random stream about getting to a Million.

>>52566228
Kek Miko got lucky with the nigga clip and that's it.

>>52566076
And he's still in a better place financially than you, anon. You'll live your life is misery, clacking away at your keyboard, wasting your energy making rrats and consuming shitposts in this dumpster of a site.

You have no room to complain or criticize, you fat tub of useless oxygen bag.

>>52566076
so in other words all of the catalog seethe is just bored, coping chumbuds
both you and the thread OP deserve each other

>>52565250
You know i wonder how much the Japanese actually give a shit about what Niji does. Like obviously here we shit on them constantly, but what does the main demo actually think

>>52565128

>>52566701
They just had a collab with mcdonalds in japan btw.

>>52566290
>projection 101

>>52566076
Thing is, homopushers can’t wrap their heads around why diversifying your output doesn’t necessarily guarantee a benefit. No one really knows what costs are incurred for the forming of even one talent’s art/theme/production, yet you will be told by said pushers that it always is cost efficient for the homos since they, quote, “don’t cost that much”.

>>52565128
Sana had to either step the fuck up and start stream more or go.
So idk about your statement anon

>>52565128
I would argue that if Sana had signed on for a second year and underperformed she would have gotten shitcanned. Ayame is popular and Gura is a heavy hitter. They could get away with it. Sana was neither. Would have been placed on a stricter contract.

>>52566076
>I am a Gura guy
Makes sense why your opinion is garbage
>she is probably
and there it is, an admission of some made up narrative

>>52566990
>>52567029
Sana stopped streaming because she realized she couldn't stream her favorite chink game and or do work with Chink companies so she left

The bitch was actually streaming on her IRL account playing those games more than doing her Hololive stuff.

>>52566076
cuck man phil WOULD BE a hololive fan wouldnt he

>>52566701
Watching baseball

>>52566289
Meanwhile Rin and Hana fail to capitalize their chances

>>52565128
It helps to prioritize the right things during the hiring process. Cover explicitly look for people with drive and ambition. Such people are less likely to underperform.

>>52566076
>Thinking you know how money moves in a corporate business outside of the United States
>Try to pin it on the homos by REACH
>Is a chumbud
Every time.

>Cans all of HoloCN because of the Taiwan shit
>Still rakes Coco over the coals over Taiwan shit
>Now has Haachama in eternal limbo
But i do agree, Yagoo knows how to keep everyone content, if not happy (unless you are a homobeggar)

>>52566701
They literally could care less.
Koshien is still running and they just got a sponsor with mcdonalds in jp.
You might think "but what about gundou" when truth of the matter is she's been overstepping boundaries for the longest time and given tonnes of leniency.

>>52566701
Japan still largely leans on Nijisanji, with very little changng. They didn't particularly care for ID, IN, KR, or EN, beyond the cute girls who worship at the feet of jap culture
Gundou gets a lot of leniency on /vt/ because, surprise, antis only care about going against anycolor, and would have sided with that one JP recruit whos entire manifesto was -by his own admission- to join Nijisanji and have sex with the female talents.
I feel bad for KR and ID, so i hope they are given a safe haven somewhere like with siska and the rrat of her joining HoloID4, or they at least are propped up by EN/JP talents like Mika, Bonnivier, and the begrudging Hana

>>52568161
EN fans keep doomposting about how EN is ruined so you can add them to the list

>>52569384
That one's not real, that's just because EN fans are fucking stupid and numberfagged too hard at the start

>>52565467
He’s fired ID’s for underperforming?

>>52565128
???
Why would a unicorn want his oshi to be graduated? it doesn't make sense numerically too as it will piss off the fans and polarize them against the corp.

>>52566228
The girls can incline, because they have successful branchmates that have fans that are interested in female vtubers, the homos can't incline the same way because they have a different fanbase and are therfore very unlikely to incline above low 4view. That's why the homos are a waste of resources

>>52566701
Gundou's graduation was celebrated by the Japs, so yeah, our opinions differ.

>>52569781
>Why would a unicorn want his oshi to be graduated?
They're not talking about THOSE anon

But, but.... catalog tells me EN and ID are the worst thing in existence and should graduate immediately

>>52570889
no catalog tells you whores like Kronii and Bae are the worst thing in existence and should graduate immediately

>>52566076
Meds

>>52566076
based
fuck homowhores and their boytoy

>>52567425
Nothing you said contradicts what I said?
She was too lazy to be active on her holo job too.
And she knew full well the China-Holo relation before even joining.

>>52565128
>>52565777
>>52566290
>>52566533
>>52567052
>>52568059
So true, sisters! Own that unichud! They have no place in our CBDCT environment! I can’t wait for Milord to get me preggers!

>>52565128
Defining "underperforming" is the key to this debate.
You'll need to take not only production costs, time to get that money back but also the bad PR on the outside and the stress on other's talents mental health seeing her colleagues getting fired over numbers.
In my opinion, Yagoo is doing the right thing. IT gives a sense of unity from the backend that reflects in the talents.

>>52568452
>Gundou gets a lot of leniency on /vt/ because, surprise, antis only care about going against anycolor
Or maybe we aren't mindless drones and encourage free will.
Oh no she offended me, instead of not watching her i better go and cry on social media how evil she is!

>>52565495
Low performers when compared to the others, sure, but they weren't doing badly enough to get fired. Miko started inclining pretty fast after moving to Hololive and she was already doing pretty well by her first anniversary. Same with Suisei, but even as an indie she was doing better than most other indies. Azki wasn't doing that badly either with all the INNK resources going into her projects.
For some reason people seem to think that vtubers are a massive money sink for their companies, but after the initial investment in models and shit, it doesn't really take that much. There are many smaller companies where most talents are in the same tier as debut Miko, yet they're able to keep going just fine.

>>52565128
they are always wrong
this board is always wrong
*rapes and kills unicorns*

>>52565128
>fired an entire fucking branch

>>52572113
but anon, catalog told me that if a chuuba isn't at least a 4view they're basically making dirt even though the company is totally spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on them!

>>52571238
Bitter pill to swallow: the girls who do CGDCT are the ones with secret boyfriends, the girls who do male collabs are the lesbians and asexuals who see their holostars colleagues as nothing more than friends.

>>52572438
Retard

>>52566262
utsugi uyu

>>52572438
It makes sense if you think about it. Some people have nothing to hide so they don't fear the 'backlash' and just do whatever, while some people have skeletons in their closets that can be dug up, that's why they're so scared that they'll get 'exposed' if they draw too much attention so they just avoid it entirely.

Chuubers don't act in isolation, firing one will have adverse effects on the others.

>>52566228
>survivor bias == law of attraction
please, how many corpos don't make it despite their good intentions?

>>52572321
Did they underperform?

>>52572438
And then there is Noel and Lammy who just fucking hate all men

>>52565128
>Never fired anyone for underperforming
Sana..

>>52566076
>it's not muh gura shitting her pants

>>52572113
>>52572113
Before late 2019, Miko wasn't doing well enough to feed herself, so not well enough to positively impact a company. She wasn't a negative either, but absolutely a "low performer."

>>52567425
I know this is "hololive reject mentality" but Sana really was a wasted spot in Council. She was seemingly so distant with them that one of their last collabs prior to her announcement of graduating, you could tell that the others weren't really sure what to talk about with her versus each other.

>>52571238
Why is the homocollaber Mumei in this Triangel?

People have "graduated" from Hololive.
When they do, there is usually a PR statement published.
Only people like me with an IQ above 90 can understand that the real reason for termination is not plainly stated in the PR statement.
So you can never really know for sure why the person graduated, whether it was voluntary or not, etc.
Aloe is the best example. The PR statement was a fucking joke, but it's written to make the company look good while firing her.

So has anyone been fired for underperforming? Who knows!!!

>>52566289
EOP chama Miko was inclining even before that clip

>>52572438
Retard

>>52565128
Wish he would desu. Think how good we'd be eating if he axed the orange and red whores. EN saved.

>>52565128
the moment miko told that he supported her when she was underperforming, i knew he wasn't a piece of shit

ironic since his first objective with cover corp wasn't related to vtubing at all

>>52566076
at least it's still better niji

>>52574466
*than

sorry anons, forgot my pills

>>52573750
Its really awkward when they have to pretend to care about her when fans make fan games about them or the minecraft note she left them.
You can tell no one had an attachment to her by the way they try to remember her.

>>52574520
>>52573750
why did sana graduate?
i don't watch EN but i'm curious

>>52574638
She didn't like streaming and had more fun just doing her work outside of Hololive.

>>52573800
Aloe didn't have a chance to underperform, so that wasn't the reason she was axed. Chris, Rushia, all of CN. None of those were because of low numbers.

>>52574638
was too busy with her other work to stream regularly and some of her projects got axed/fell flat audience wise, so she quit
also she probably wasn't too fond of the idol aspect

>>52572438
>muh boyfriend
why are krocucks like this?

>>52565128
Numberfags yes. Not sure what you nean by unicorns. Seiso streamers generally have less views anyway and are still supported as your own post points out. Unicorns are the opposite of numberfags.

>>52572438
why are homobeggars ALWAYS such malicious cunts
just accept not everyone craves interacting with men

>>52565495
>>52572113
People truly underestimate how cheap it is to maintain vtuber. The primary cost lies in creating and rigging the model, but if you manage to generate enough turnover to cover those expenses, the rest is manageable.
This approach is how many smalls to mid-sized chuuba companies survive. The key challenge lies in retaining audience and cultivating a dedicated paypigs, securing 1-3 loyal paypigs you're set for life.
this is why I'm baffled by numbernigger and catalogfaggot shitting on 3view chuuba as if their career is over, In reality, many streamers can generate a decent income or become full-time streamers even with a modest viewer count aka 3view. With dedicated supporters, they can secure their financial stability, and additional revenue can be obtained from ads, memberships, sponsorships, and merchandise sales. This is why groups like Homostars and early holoID thrive.
While homos may not be as successful as their sister branches, they remain profitable and contribute positively to Cover's overall earnings. Cover has no reason to axe'd Homostars, considering they still generate a 2-5% profit, and any sensible businessman wouldn't axe a revenue source, no matter how small, unless they were financially strained or the product truly flops that doesnt generate zero profit. if every corpo have mindset like numbernigger vtuber industry would be fucking dead and also people forgot that some talent are late-bloomer (like Kaela, Pekora, Fauna ,Roberu and Astel).Not everyone becomes instantly popular, but with hard work and support from management, talents can shine. Cover's willingness to support underperformers and avoid the 'banishment room' mentality like every black company would set them apart from other companies that prioritize profit over faith in their talents, and that's truly rare in the corporate world. I appreciate that.

>>52575250
>remain profitable and contribute positively to Cover's overall earnings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yes sister i can't wait for more male collab soon

>>52574638
I'm assuming Ina convinced her it was a fun casual side gig, but after a while she realized the big events and mandated performances and pressure to deliver like your peers was gonna mean more time and effort than she was willing to assign it (prior to 2022 EN had ran very freely, and hadn't had to participate in anything major). I guess the early handicap she received wasn't the biggest motivator either.

>>52575398
They are profitable, though.

>>52575513
yeah i know sis. Cover should force more male collab

>>52575549
This but unironically just to see you get pissed and self dox yourself again

>>52575549
No, they shouldn't.
They're still profitable.

>>52575513
Why waste managers, 3d studio time, advertisement space, scouting time, etc. on homos that will just barely scrape by and have zero chance to ever incline anywhere near the top girls? Opportunity cost is a thing

>>52575398
Go back to vtai!

>>52575398
>anon talk how homostars can sustain themselves by their own and still make profit
>but MALE COLLAB!
literally no one talk about male collab but here you are, are you perhaps closeted homosexual and cucks? since you can't stop thinking about cocks and ''cuckold'' male collabs.
Also a lot of homos rarely do mixed collab beside magni, vesper, and astel, even then it's not a regular thing.

>>52575886
I'm sure you've done the numbers and are prepared to show how much they're losing in terms of opportunity cost?

>>52575886
If Cover were more like Niji they'd see things your way but no. They follow bureaucratic rules. Whoever books first gets the slot regardless of how they do.

>>52575976
I don't think you understand the idea of opportunity cost as well as you think you do.

>>52575886
Good thing Cover is white company who care to nurturing and supporting their talent!
And Cover's still growing and make profit every day, no matter how you seethe at their decision.

>>52576101
I don't think you understand that's not how things in the company is run.

>>52576101
>the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen.
I'm asking you to show proof that this potential gain they have is worth axing an entire branch that targets a different audience than their main product in order to try and hit more of the same audience that they already have a hold on.

>>52566076
>company brings entertainment and joy to people
>REEEEEE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS REEEEEEEEE FUCKING IDIOTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52575136
I fucking hate that lazy bitch Sana for this, it's clear she only joined because for the easy money or her friend Ina convince her.
it's really showing she truly doesn't care about hololive & vtubing as a whole.
Fuck Sana for auditioning
Fuck EN management for hiring her
Fuck Ina for nepo'd her.
Sana was the real wasted slot and don't contribute anything to hololive.

>>52565128
I can’t believe it! it’s almost like they aren’t a black company who'd a thunk?

Yagoo doesn't fire "underperforming" chuubas or else Flare, Akirose, and Mel would've been outta here long ago.

>>52572438
I think this is too general of a category. ID for example doesn't fit it. Kobo does male collabs a lot and wants a JP boyfriend. There's a girl in EN that doesn't do CGDCT and most people know has a JP boyfriend. There's another girl in ID that acts shy around everybody whether girl or boy but is married.

>>52573065
Not sure I buy that shit from them desu.

>>52565128
>A thread died for this 3DPD piece of fucking bullshit CEO manwhore
FUCK OFF YOU FAGOOTS

>>52576118
Yeah, the girls make 99.9% of the profit that allows the homos to have stuff like 3d events with professional staff they would otherwise never have

>>52566076
This is such a fucking retarded lot of nothing that only numberfags would care about and even then it's flat out wrong, according to recent merch data, Bae was right behind Gura in terms of sales >>52563811
Also no, Gura doesn't want to stream because there is no hard work on her part and she's just lazy, you can stop the cope now.

>>52576002
>implying folks like Chronoir get more 3D appearances in a year than people like Gwelu or Uiha
The amount of ignorance about Nijisanji in this board is amusing sometimes.

>>52566076
Holy fucking based. Yagoo shouldve culled all the homoshitters and cock loving whores.

It's not like Cover can really do anything about low view tubers, it's just luck and their own willingness to grow. Also there is no downside to low viewership talent. It's not like they cost significantly more to keep on. It establishes Hololive as the premier place to be.

>>52577378
No, low views dilute the quality of hololive. Just look at what happened to holostars

>>52577509
The low views of the early generations did nothing to stop the later generations from being incredibly popular

>>52565128
Numberfags are retarded because it only costs like $10k to set up a vtuber so even if they spend their entire career as a 2view, it's practically impossible for the corporation to lose money on them unless they graduate within a month or something. Numberfagging is nothing but "MY MILLIONAIRE MAKES MORE MONEY THAN YOUR MILLIONAIRE," particularly if we're just talking about numberfagging holomems, which is like a console war but even more degenerate and retarded, and is cringe as fuck no matter how you look at it.

>>52566076
>Cover is a million dollar company that could be a billion dollar one
Wow and you call Nijifans bootlickers? Jesus

>>52577608
They literally have the same mindset as the snakes known as investors
Bottom line’s all that matters, push it up at any cost, cut corners, talents’ well-being and happiness come second to pushing up those numbers

>>52572438
Lmao look at all the unicuckold seethe.

>>52566076
Gura still making bank while doing nothing is not one of the reasons, mkay, take your meds bud.

>unicorns are wrong
>holoen is constantly reclining
>holojp is constantly inclining
I genuinely can't tell if this is bait but if all girls in holojp were suddenly confirmed cocksleeves the company would cease to exist overnight and Vspo would probably overtake them.

>>52577806
>western vtubing was a bubble that was destined to pop and deflate into a simple niche hobby
>eastern vtubing has become a regular part of culture in Japan
there's a whole lot more at work here than "muh males", anon

>>52577630
He was just stating the truth. Where is the bootlicking?

>>52565128
Because the top girls are popular and lucrative enough to let the straggler's continue to leech. And many of the top girls have unicorns or pander to them.

>>52568276
>>52570439
taking the mentally ill japs seriously when they will jump to the next vtuber to hate like they always do

>Tells investors to fuck off for trying to make Hololive a black company like Niji
YAAAAAYYYY
>But why doesn't he fire the ones hated autistic numberfags and unicorn schizos?
BOOOOOOOO

>>52577734
Investors think this way because they've fronted money into the corporation and are financially committed to it maximizing it's profits at all times. Numberfags do it for ZERO financial recompensation whatsoever.

>>52574219
And then dark blue, and then yellow, and then pink next. I know how you fucktards think.

something i don't understand is how vtubing has had big corporations involved for 5+ years yet everyone still uses dinky fan-made vtubing software, to the extent that vtubers still look the same (or often worse) than kizuna ai

hololive should have already sunk some cash into R&D for better vtubing tech

>>52578354
The fans don't care so neither do they.

>>52577879
No the answer is that if the company was run by you, it would also be a bubble in japan. Maybe realize it's not 2020 anymore and go back to whatever faggot shit you were doing before then instead of continuing to try and fuck up hobbies you fundamentally have no real interest in.

>>52575244
The same holds true in inverse: not all are "uwu afraid of men" types. Speaking of, I find it a bit too convenient that they're "afraid of men"/"not good with men" except with chat who's mostly male. Ame was right to point that out.

And stow your sisterposts. I can see you drafting one as I type this.

>>52578354
>everyone still uses dinky fan-made vtubing software
you wish. cover and anycolor use in-house software,the stuff indies and small corps use is leaving them in the dust

>>52578391
viewers would flock to any vtuber who doesn't fit the janky live2d/vseeface mold of barely-expressive, super limited floatiness

but there lies the problem, japanese companies aren't known for their creativity, they are famously reactive to western advancements. it will take some western company building out a real vtubing tech-base with decent facial tracking for japs to realize how complacent they've gotten

>>52575398
I really wish Kronii took off with Regis instead for that double blue. But hey, blue goes well with silver imo.

>>52577734
God forbid one with a white horn gallops it way onto board meetings...now that is a grim and very Bad Future.

>>52578098
Not even Niji fires people for underperforming, they just keep debuting new talents until the underachievers fold under the competitive pressure and quit. It makes 0 sense to actually fire an underperforming vtuber because they are effectively money printers no matter how underperforming they are. Calls from /#/ to fire people are just tribalfagging seethe that they (badly) disguise as a business proposition.

>>52573065
>has given dildo a blowjob, boobjob, and finally literally has ridden one
Yeah, one of those girl hate men for sure. I mean, I have put a dildo in my ass before, I'm not gay or anything though.

>>52575244
>all women are whores who live on easy mode
>except for the one I donate to on youtube
Rough.

>>52577734
you would understand why investor is being greedy numberfag because like>>52578169
said, investor fronted a ton of money into the corporate and expect getting return. Meanwhile, numberfag just numberfagging for the sake of their imaginary CCV races that amount of nothing & I doubt their oshi care about CCV view. They do care about number but it mostly with definite metric such as subs count and VOD view.
>>52579516
numberfag are just tribalfaggot with /v/ console war faggotry except it worse, they pretend to care about vtubing while they don't understand jackshit about business, while /v/ console war faggotry comes from ''my console game is better than yours”

>>52578479
Wonderfully put

>>52572438
Homobeggars write this sort of fanfiction, then try to dunk on unicorns for being delusional.

>>52577954
You'd need 400 more Pekoras for Cover to be a billion $ company, assuming the market is large enough to support them all.

>>52580789
I'd argue unicorns write way more fanfiction on average with mere interactions being hyperboled to cock sucking and fucking

>>52580572
i never implied anything of the sort, incel
stop projecting

>>52578479
they aren't "afraid of men"
they don't want to collab with your faggots because they like a different brand of entertainment, focused on cuteness, which they were fans of themselves before joining (Kiara>Pekora, Gura>Aqua, Fauna>Gura)
it's as simple as that, Holostars are failures and some girls are smart enough to know what their brand is and what they should do to keep it

>>52578479
Because there's a difference between amorphous blob of text and images that is chat and and single person behind a humanoid avatar. Just like a difference between 3D and 2D but on anthore layer. But then it's also not necessary that they are too scared or shy to talk to men, there is such a thing as keep a theme or simply just liking their gachi fans because they are gachis themselves.
>>52580572
Coo strawman

>>52580660
Why thank you. When things are off-pattern, it sends signals to my brain.

>>52581142
>faggot

And you had the gall to call the other goy incel. Ha!

>>52581359
But then there's also people being absolutely scared into the gilded cage. Those people here going "remember who pays the bills, woman"...how am I supposed to believe they're avoiding males of their own free will?

>>52581445
w-what?
how does using slurs for homosexual men and hating women correlate?

>>52581535
>There's an evil unicorn mafia holding talents at virtual gunpoint preventing the from having muh fun male collabs thy must so obviously crave
This is yet another homobeggar fanficion. Hololive talents that actually want to collab do colllab, few unicorn complainers aren't stopping them.

>>52581535

That mafia?

Me.

Now kiss the ring, homo.

Verification not required

>>52578479
your post makes Ame seem like a cunt, ngl

>thread about Yagoo immediately devolves into another "muh males" thread

>>52582239
OP did use a word "unicorn" though.

>>52578536
kys shipfag

>>52582239
this image only highlights why unicorns are a necessary evil. they speak for the silent majority

I'm a newfag, what's a unicorn?
>inb4 go back

>>52568452
>to join Nijisanji and have sex with the female talents.

I want to do this but just with deron and Myamya

>>52572113
>Miko started inclining pretty fast after moving to Hololive and she was already doing pretty well by her first anniversary.

She didn't incline until after GTA, which was 7 or 8 months after joining holo. And even then, she only inclined relative to her own numbers. Gen 2 girls were breaking 100k and she was at like 20k by 1st anniversary

>>52582780
Quickly before people with agendas step in, unicorns are people who don't want male characters in their vtuber experience.

>>52574638
Her main income comes from china.

>>52582932
I see, thanks

>>52578529
>viewers would flock to any vtuber who doesn't fit the janky live2d/vseeface mold of barely-expressive, super limited floatiness
Only if they know that vtuber exists in the first place. Brand power is the most valuable power in the industry.

Total Numberfag Death

>>52582485
>silent majority

>>52583743
There is a silent majority, but they only show up for Mori/Kronii/Magni/Vesper collabs

>>52581787
Not necessarily crave but the truth is, there's still backlash for mingling with males in public. Which is utter bs as a human.

>>52581913
Suck my dick.

>>52582214
Trust me, not my intention. I was referring to the "six thousand males in the chat!" quip she made.

>>52582796
Honestly, befriending the Holos is enough for me. Sex is just a bonus.

>>52566076
>Using a pic of the mernhera schizo who freaked the fuck out in a media scrum and got into a backstage fight he was suspended and nearly let get over because of some he-said-he-said highschool drama beef to make a schizo post
lmao, this dude makes michaelcat look sane and reasonable

>>52575912
With catalog being homo obsessed, I'm inclined to think 80% of this board are gay.

>>52576432
Seethe closeted faggot. With all the whining and bitching you've been doing, kys.

>>52566076
>gAyEW fan
>shit opinion on vtubing
many such cases, egods won again

>>52572438
>Mori
>Bae
>Ame
>Trannii
oh no you can't go this route, these girls prove you wrong beggar-san

>>52565128
>numberfags are wrong?
yes, mental retardation renders all their opinions worthless, always has
>unicorns are wrong?
yes, mental retardation renders all their opinions worthless, always has

>>52565495
Look at Luna and Lui, they almost and did average over 10k ccv for June with 20+ streams each.

Let’s not also forget Koyori was doing English streams for like 3k people when she started too and her JP streams weren’t even that much better. This what Yagoo hopes happens to the Homos but it just won’t, none unicorn/gachi fans just aren’t loyal enough

>>52566076
Like what’s the point of them? I get they tried to separate them to begin with but what’s the point if they start collabing with themselves more and more to try and prop the homos up

>>52585241
>This what Yagoo hopes happens to the Homos but it just won’t, none unicorn/gachi fans just aren’t loyal enough
yumes, gachis, and fujos saved many anime, series, even historical artifacts. they just suck at marketing them and choosing character designers.

>>52566076
based

>>52566076
schizophrenia!! we got schizophrenia, here!!!!

>>52566076
Based and “Gura guy” pilled.

>>52565347
Have you ever heard of such a thing as running costs? It's not "free" to keep them employed, they have to live from their work so you have to pay them and they might not make enough money to make up for it. Also they need managers. If it was that easy we would have hundreds of gens. There would be no reason why the much bigger Hololive would have less members than nijisanji

>>52566076
I fucking kneel

>>52571238
There should be Kiara instead of Irys

>>52573065
Noel loves boys though

>>52565128
I don't think even their lowest watched/donated member is a net-negative

>>52566076
Lots of seething tourists in the responses, sure with twitter would be fixed so they'd go back. Seems like a lot have entrenched themselves since the collab shitfest though, god that was awful.

>>52572438
>>52578479
>>52581535
>>52584266
Why is it so hard for you to understand that people want to watch cute girls doing cute things and that straight men don't think men are cute?

>>52574638
Brown

>>52566076
Jesas. Touch grass. Improve yourself. Get therapy. All the works.

>>52586066
Easy. Don't watch em. Problem solved.

>>52586257
Go wach Nijisanji then instead of watching Hololive, easy, problem solved.

>>52565128
Anycolor makes more money and are also still growing so who can say

>>52586860
No thanks I'll keep happily watching Holo so my problem actually is solved. You are welcome to continue stupidly hating things you have and will never have control over.

>>52576432
>Yeah, the JP girls make 99.9% of the profit that allows the EN to have stuff like 3d events with professional staff they would otherwise never have
>Yeah, the top 10 girls make 99.9% of the profit that allows the other 43 to have stuff like 3d events with professional staff they would otherwise never have
>Yeah, Pekora make 99.9% of the profit that allows everyone else to have stuff like 3d events with professional staff they would otherwise never have

>>52580651
I mean, consider picrel ...

>>52587098
Then at least I hope you're waching the Holos than are known for collabing with males instead of pestering the ones who don't. In that case keep on stupidly begging for things that you will never have control over.

>>52565128
>Nevver fired anyone for underperforming
Sana.....
shitposting aside, she thought she could pull off a Gura or Ayame with her extremely low ccv and was rightfully canned, doesn't matter if you under perform, but at least stream.

>>52566076
dude no wonder you are on 4chan, your opinion utter trash

>>52588034
>Then at least I hope you're waching the Holos
Yup I pretty much watch all of the EN girls
>collabing with males
Don't care if they do or don't
>instead of pestering the ones who don't
Never done this, never will. The girls can collab or not it doesn't matter to me
>things that you will never have control over
And I'm fine with that, no complaints.

>>52585733
>Have you ever heard of such a thing as running costs?
>Ayame
>Gura

>>52565128
Anon, that only applies to anime girls.
Unicorns will larp as Numberfags or just anything to justify the purge of Holostars from Cover Corp.
The fun is in to witness how low they can go

>>52586257
"Don't watch em"??? What if you liked watching them but they do things you don't like, obviously you'll be pissed off by it. You can't just substitute every vtuber with another.
Like no, I can't or don't just want to jump ship the second they do something I dislike. That should be obvious.
That's the dumbest remark you could make in regards to that argument

>>52575398
>Six hands

Nice ai image, fag.

>>52589408
shut the fuck up homobeggar, males in hololive were a mistake and I'm not even a unicorn. Up until EN this just didn't matter because the japanese understand to keep certain boundaries intact that shouldn't be breached

>>52589435
>The show I'm watching is going in a direction I don't like, but I'm going to keep watching anyway.
Change the channel anon, only talent themselves have the right to decide what their content is.

>>52566076
>People in this thread don't realize this is a copypasta of CM Punks Pipebomb promo

>>52590106
Meh he was overrated anyway

>>52588575
You are quick to deny of force begging Hakka into Holotori.

>>52589944
Hololive is that channel. Zero males in holosummer. Yagoo is quick to shove the garbage under the sofa when big investors are involve.

>>52582239
>even the in their favor edited meme shows that homobeggars are the ones who started shit for shit reasons and the unicorns who were quiet before and just liked the thing are only reacting
>they are both equally bad!!!
???

How are the unicorns wrong if they carry the company on their backs?

>>52566076
Anons falling for an obvious classic /pw/ copypasta is hilarious. No wonder /vt/ is 4chan's first subreddit.

>>52574520
Anonchama they still talk…

>>52584266
>Which is utter bs as a human
No, it's simply business. Do you understand the concept of a dress code? This isn't much different from that.
You are like a little baby, complaining about things you do not understand.

>>52565128
>>Never fired anyone for underperforming even if there is such thing as that in the business
Sana would like a word with you

>>52584654
Did you forget in what website you are in ?

>>52565128
The massive success of the top talents funds the bottom talents.

If a hypothetical Talent X is underperforming so hard that Cover isn't profiting from them (e.g. merch production costs more than what they sell), they can use the massive profit from someone like Pekora to carry X and invest in them to make them profitable.

>>52595091
why doesn't niji just follow this formula

>>52595235
Because Niji is too busy pocketing most of the profit to use it on their talents

>>52594347
Funny because in /pw/'s case, numberfagging is important, specially for companies like WWE or AEW compared to Cover or Anycolor.
There is a reason why memes like "no milly" and "tarps" exist and why vtubing doesn't have something to this

>>52595235
vtubers cost pocket change by corporate standards to produce and to shill. Once you get to big corpo levels of hype and exposure/sub counts like Cover's, there's no such thing as unprofitability. EN3 will probably pay for all their production costs + their first year of merch before their debut week even ends even if they spent the rest of their entire careers as literal 2views. There's not a single one of their talents that isn't basically acting like a free money machine. The same holds for other big corpos like niji. In fact, spamming new waves every 6 months is how niji gets better financial NOOMBERS than Cover, because each new talent is another printer, regardless of how hard it squeezes their talents and how high their turnover rate is. Any retard who pretends that any of these chuubas is losing their corpo money is a literal child who should be banned for being underage.
>Oh nyoooo Bae got only 10,000 CCV this stream instead of 11,000 CCV like she did last week! It's so fucking over! Cover's finances will never recover! Someone call the dramatubers because she's about to be terminated! -- 3rd world retards who think their IQ is 40 points higher than it actually is

Shit like this reminds me of why I stopped being an unicorn, the fact that some faggot on this board asked for a trigger warning after that Ame/Regis song made me realize these people are probably the 2nd most pathetic people in this site next to blacked obsessed cucks.

>>52598203
no idea, my oshi doesn't shove homostars content to me so why should i care about Ame?

>>52565128
Idk most people that hate him is bc he's responsable for the homos

>>52599143
you can actually thank your dad for that

>>52573065
>

>>52565232
Fpbp

>>52599143
It’s been wild to watch his reputation go from best girl yagoo, savior of broken girls to fagoo the leech. He worked hard for it though.

>>52594843
Who?

>>52585733
>if it was that easy they would have hundreds of gens
If it's not so easy how can Nijisanji do it?

>>52606622
2 cents to the dollar

>>52566076
>We are not angry they underperform
>makes a rant about how he is angry girls underperform