/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52431018
That she didn't pull her branch up? Yes

that I raped her? yes.

>>52431018
Where's that domino meme?

Yes, It's her fault for not accepting my semen in her womb
t. "Dad"

>>52431018
>I won't take my 3d debut until my gen mates hit the threshold so we can have our 3d debut together
>three years later
Was it worth it Hana?

>>52431018
Nijisanji fans are already deflecting blame to Hana just to make Anycolor look good.

>>52431018
Relax vro it's just le hobby

>>52431018
Not entirely
Yes she fucked up, but there was nothing stopping the others from doing what Mika did and simply finding an audience outside Indonesia

>>52431630
Her first mistake was expecting it would be something similar to HoloID. You know, family and unity stuff
Unfortunately, that's not how Nijisanji works

>>52431630
Even Mika passed her

>>52431018
I mean, she introduced me to Nijisanji like a year before EN debuted, so that's gotta count in her favor, right?

>>52431924
nijifans anti their livers to shill for niji company..

>>52433141
well it's natural to want to defend your oshi
and theirs is Riku Tazumi

>>52431018
Yeah, should've stayed as a vtuber instead of another e-girl.

>>52431018
No

>>52431018
mostly no

>>52431018
Yes

>>52432403
had their one chance and she fucked it all for all of them

>>52431018
no she work her ass up, while others are just that retarded and blame everyone besides themselves

So nijifans will throw the "livers" under the bus the moment anything goes south? What a great fanbase

>>52439305
Why do you think we call them nijiniggers?

>>52439305
Of course, just like what they did and mostly continue to do with regards to Zaion.

>>52431188
Why is did you put Dad in apostrophes???
Is her dad dead or something?

>>52439305
Took you long enough anon.

>>52439051
She was the one who gave them that chance, retard. If they didn't capitalize on it for like a year before she started melting down it's on them. Other than ZEA, Cia and Layla none of the nijiIDs had a future anyway, in any timeline.

>>52440363
Some people call their wife as mom and vice versa.

>>52441128
For Hana it's a schizo rrat from /here/, though. There was never any proof of that being true.

Are we still playing the pretend game where we believe that getting 3D would have changed anything?

>>52443069
When anons say "it's her fault" they don't mean just the 3D thing. It's about her rejecting behind the face of ID and trying to carry the branch.
While 1 event like accepting 3D might have changed absolutely nothing, if she had an entire different attitude toward her own popularity, things could have been a lot better for ID

>>52443069
In the long run, probably not, especially since Hana is menhera as hell. But they probably wouldn't have lagged behind something like HoloID as much, especially if they spoke more English. Not that it matters, since ex-ID is officially dead, and it's only a matter of time before something like this probably happens to EN within 2 years.

>>52443069
Catalogfags and dead narratives, name a better combo

>>52443279
>this will probably happen to en
Says concerned man for the fifth time today alone

>>52431018
yes, you can only catch lightning once

>>52443069
>letting your break out talent shit on he fanbase and refuse the chance to elevate her entire branch changes nothing bro, trust me

>>52443421
Within 2 years unless things significantly improve? Absolutely. The fact of the matter is that management is incompetent in the best of times and malicious/egotistical at worst, it's not as bad as how ex-KR's was but it's certainly not good either.
There's also 3 talents that basically left the company within the span of the year - Yugo, Zaion, and now Nina, and that's not even getting into rumors of someone else already on the way out. The first one of which seemed more like a termination if they didn't even get the same treatment Nina did, the other was basically kicked out and given phony reasons as other members within the branch committed those same markups, and the last one finally got something close to a proper vtuber graduation.

And it's also not getting into the fact that the branch is well beyond its prime and it's only been two years. Its not growing in terms of viewership or watch time, and with how Vox had a breakdown over numbers its just as likely that management is also hounding him about it. Its basically stagnating since they chased short term growth over any long term stability, and things won't really get better from here if XSOLEIL is any indication.

>>52431924
>they did the same with zaion, nina and gundou

colour me shocked anon I truly didnt expect the nijifanbase to be a buch of corpo-cock sucking faggot

>>52431018
What did she do now? I stopped watching her after her dumb comments about vtubing.

>>52443249
>>52443279
>>52443453
Had she accepted the 3D this would have happened eventually anyways and this weird narrative against Hana would not exist, that's my point. In an alternate reality where Hana accepts the 3D the narrative would completely shift to blame Anycolor as it should be.
This is just another classic /vt/ autism trying to put the blame on one particular thing thinking reality is shaped like some shitty anime plot.

>>52440282
>zaion nuked
deserved, making a deez nuts joke and not following the niji culture
>gundou grads
s-stupid whore making bad jokes, talking about cumshots and calling her fanbase pigs
>nina grads
S-she was a selfish whore anyway, noone liked her, luxiem cocksleave

>>52443913
Cry about it seamonkey.

>>52444045
im white you unconceivable cock goblin

maybe if I knocked the cocks out your mouth youd make better comments other than calling me SEA

>>52431018
Unironically yes, they could have been cripple-tier HoloID if she wasn't an egotistical bitch.

>>52443913
Its because the company is their oshi and it's not a joke. Any time talents hint about how miserable they are or any time there's a major yab, they always point back to back to Anycolor's stock as if that's to prove that the talents can't be miserable because the company makes loads of money. And that's ignoring the fact that Riku can shut down anything on a whim or sell off a very overpriced company to some shmuck.

>>52444197
*If she was an egotistical bitch
She refused her 3d because she didn't want to be above her branchmates.

>>52444138
You don't type like you're white, bucko.

>>52444310
Pot calling the kettle black here

All I'm getting from this thread is that catalog seamonkeys really enjoy projecting narratives onto Niji. It's pretty sad how easily you can tell who is and who isn't SEA

>>52443911
Nina leaving will cripple the branch imho, her super power of being a social extrovert and herding autists will be sorely missed.
I unironically believe that she will create some lose knit circle of indies as an indie her self, a pseudocorpo if you will

>>52431924
Anon, shitting on Hana's stupidity is basically a tradition here. Hana being retarded, and Anycolor being a piece of shit aren't mutually exclusive.

>>52443989
A) you don't know that and b) even if it does end up the same way at least we can say she tried her best instead of the current timeline where she deliberately shot herself in the foot because she is a public entertainer who dislikes being in the limelight (lmao) and have retards like you spinning yourself into pretzels trying to explain how it wouldn't have made a difference anyway

>>52431018
Hana didn't make Nara talk about her period for an hour or forced Hyona not to stream.

>>52432982
> Even Mika passed her
Only Mika passed her.

>>52445063
>You don't know that but I do, trust me
I don't care about Hana, but the fault is on Anycolor. If they wanted the branch to succeed they should have given the 3D to everyone and only then you can put the blame on the talents if they don't succeed.

>>52444310
Ruro rumao

>>52445454
And a ching Chong Chang to you too sir

>>52444041

>>52445454
jesus what happened to your nails

>>52446021
started with anxiety, now i just do it out of habit

>>52444555
I honestly forgot about that, Nina probably played more of a role in even getting Luxiem/Niji offline collabs than expected. Plus by the end she seemed to be the only one pushing for more girls only collabs and sticking too it, so if she goes then that's probably that. Especially since Elira didn't seem to care when a dude joined their "GIRLS NIGHT OUT" Valorant stream.
In hindsight, there's also a ton of members which them leaving would really cripple the branch in some form or another. Ike seems to be an alright guy just crippled by what I hear is a poor diet of colas and being addicted to mixing covers for his genmates, so if he goes then that's one aspect of NijiEN gone. Shu even though does more collabs I heard helps out a lot behind the scenes in terms of tech support and apparently angrily fighting management's bullshit, if he goes that's another aspect gone, nevermind the damage done by one Luxiem talent leaving. Selen is Menhera Prime over APEX at this point but she's one of the few that actually organizes mass scale Niji collabs/projects across the branch, nevermind between branches like Puyo Puyo Tetris, so if she goes then things become more quiet. Rosemi is pretty loved so her leaving wont be good, and Pomu is tied with Ewiwa as being one of the most loved talents in the branch, especially as one of the first members of EN.

There's so many talents that Niji can't afford to lose for their EN branch.

>>52439305
If you have any semblance of the backbone, you'll have shit made up about you on a daily bases. Just look at Gundou.

>>52431018
that's what you got for keep switching languages niji ID is bound to fail

>>52431924
Shitting on Hana for her retardation and the slow death of her branch has been a thing way before the merge with JP.

>>52445454
Your skin is as brown as my balls, seafriend.

>>52444294
she was egotistical by daring to put other people before corporate profit.

>Be the top dog of the branch
>Literally the vtuber people think of when they hear "EN vtuber"
>Have the opportunity to be the spearhead for Niji ID, and pull everyone else up with you
>Turn it down because you want to be equals with the rest of your branch
>The rest of the branch isn't rising up with you like you hope
>Cripple yourself
>Both you and the entire branch losees relevancy
>The branch gets dissolved
>Literally talk on stream about how you're starting to hate Nijisanji, b-b-but actually it's not so bad
>Half of your ex-branch, along with your genmates leave, asking you to go with them
>Decide to stay, and just half-ass your way through it all.
Egotistical isn't the right word. She would have been egotistical, but also correct to actually accept her role as the spearhead. Instead, she was just incredible naive, to the point that you could just call it sheer stupidity.

>>52449693
Can she be saved?

>>52452572
No , she's retarded

>>52431018
Did something happen?

>>52431018
qrd

>>52431018
Yes

>>52431018
Yeah? We literally already have an example in HoloEN for what would happen if the breadwinner decides to self sabotage themselves instead of stepping up to the spotlight. Gura in her 1st year carried Kiara to getting to 1 million way sooner than lots of Holos and you can definitely say that those subs hardly reflect her actual viewership. Meanwhile look at what happens if the one leading your gen decides to be a hipster and avoid doing the popular/trendy stuff, now Council are projected to literally be the one who'll take the longest in getting a million subbed member within their gen of all Hololive gens there is, yes that includes ID.

>>52443911
>There's also 3 talents that basically left the company within the span of the year - Yugo, Zaion, and now Nina, and that's not even getting into rumors of someone else already on the way out.
I regularly forget about Yugo being pushed out. Yeah, three members in one year (so far) is pretty bad, even with the number the EN branch has.
>>52444555
>Nina leaving will cripple the branch imho, her super power of being a social extrovert and herding autists will be sorely missed.
I think you're kinda right; she was the primary force behind quite a few of the collabs, particularly the larger ones. Without Nina, there will still be smaller collabs with 2 or 3 participants, but anything more than that will be rare outside of birthdays. Especially when it comes to cross-gen gatherings.

Don't know about anyone else, but I've had this feeling that a soft social barrier formed between the generations after Noctyx, though that could be observation bias on my part.

>>52431086
Why do japs make males with such dark skin even when some of them don't do backed or get a blacked cuck commission?

>>52431018
Is she going with the FtM shit? I remember reading she's quite the commie l, something about a stream with her "dad"

>>52431018
Yes

>>52445063
>we can say she tried her best instead of the current timeline
you dont need an alternate timeline, gura is that example and you can see what baggage that brings, gura hates streaming now and has 50 bait threads about her a day for years now.
if even gura couldnt handle the success despite having a better support structure and better used her opportunities, how would someone like hana be able to with her okayish support structure?
she saw the writing on the walls and hit the breaks to stop herself from crashing into a wall.
>>52473642
its to make the girl stand out more, white on white tend to blur together but white on tan stands out more.
if your bothered by it just think of the darker skin hentai guys as there own race of humans with zero no real life parallel

>>52431018
No. The whole ID gang is shit. cliques that didn't care about numbers because they just did it as a hobby. I looked into some of them and most of them are mentaly ill. Hana hurt herself but in no way could she had have helped someone like Hyona, Bobon, Etna or Siska

>>52431018
She is the only one keeping the branch alive, and it is only spiritually

Niji ID basically does not exist and Mika Melatika was always a NijiEN in disguise

>>52444294
Bitch lives on an island and somehow never heard "a rising tide lifts all boats." Taking a chance to make people give a shit about her branch would have been good for those branch mates in the long run.

>>52431018
I have so much to say, but was already said in prior threads about her
Won't be beating this dead horse again, time to just accept nijiID is dead and move on with this topic about an prideful idiot

>>52481437
She is a bit too EN even for EN. I got into her when she did her horror/murder/ghost cases her streams aren't bad but as time goes by her titles and thumbnails make me not click them.

>>52444657
This

>>52455916
no