/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Go to hell

She got lucky and debut at the height of the boom. If she was to debut now, no one would give a fuck about her or her music.

>>52381626
too much, she doesn't deserve any of it

>>52381626
the moment she realized that her shit is 0 without holo, unfortunately for her, she still prefers to be better friends with flash than with those from holo and sh has about a year until she will become indie if Gura withdraws and myth disappears. her numbers are disastrous for someone from holo with 2m subscribers

>>52381626
Right place, right time for a powerful first year.

>>52381626
She actually produces music instead of just talking about it.

>>52384198
>sh has about a year until she will become indie
Any day now.

>>52381626
I know is a bait thread but this anon >>52383275
as well as >>52384198 pretty much nail it

>>52381626
She may be a mediocre singer and songwriter, but she's prolific and hardworking, and every once in a while something clicks and turns out good (especially if she's collaborating with Gura).

https://youtu.be/aetXqd9B8WE

Retardedly lucky to have a friend who knew wtf a vtuber was before 2020. Without that friend she'd be nowhere near as big.

>>52384198
> her numbers are disastrous for someone from holo with 2m subscribers
She has 456 million channel views, easily the most in Hololive English, and behind only a handful of the top HoloJP members (all of whom debuted significantly before her).

Mori's suffed debut was the perfect introduction to holoEN I was expecting it to just be anime twitch that's but they she struggled with stream jank (cute) then played a good song.
She was the perfect applicant. She almost single handedly put the whole music side of holoen on her back.

>>52387453
anon i don't want to go into /#/ but she is a streamer and she is is on the top 3 bottom holo en, i know that is your oshi and that sucks but sometimes we have to accept reality

>>52388099
She's a singer. What matters most to her on her channel is that people watch her music videos, and on a views per day since debut basis she's done better than any other Holomember.

>>52384198
>>52384709
She won't become indie, she couldn't siphon fans over to her failing music career that way

>>52388516
anon I have nothing against you (only that I think that she helped the decline of Myth) you can't rely only on music and views when you are promoted as someone who streams (on youtube how it works now views can only bring you contracts but money from wiews outside of live is close to to 0) she is a singer of inclusivity, if you lived as a youth in the strange 00s you watch the animations and see inclusive characters as she was projected but never as the main character and they never lived too much among fans (2-3 years until death) sry for the blog

>>52384198
Whenever numbers get brought up many seem to forget or ignore the fact that she's an artist channel and that most of her views comes from her music. 450M+ views total and 10M per month for a 2M subs channel is far from "disastrous". Someone like Fauna who has the highest or 2nd highest ccv in EN is gaining around 3M views per month, which is not bad but definitely not as good

>>52388739
She has had better music collabs and contracts on her pl side. She is doing profesional voice work and songs for games. Also all her best industry connections are on that side too.

She made lots of mistakes, and learned from them it’s that simple.

>>52382992
all mine btw

>>52389518
Mori's doing fantastic. She's really fucking rich she owns a house in both JP and the US and frequently travels between the two and that gets pretty pricey.
Looking it up it costs about $2000 to $3000 for a round trip from Central US to Japan.
Mori's making bank from her music.

>>52381626
wht do people still think hating on mori is cool? she did nothing wrong

>>52389883
>artist channel
anon sry to inform you but any form of entertainment is considered art. vt in itself is considered art(as an anon whit art degree I have a different opinion about what should be considered art) and what she doesit is nothing special compared to the rest. her music is one of inclusiveness with nothing special, there is nothing in which you can say that has the imprint of Mori

>>52390419
anon that's not rich that's upper middle class

>>52391746
anon, this whole conversation you two are having is offtopic and it's baffling to see yet another thread that fixates on offstream activities but how many people do you know who live in two houses in two different nations post-housing bubble?

>>52381626
She has the power of friendship on her side.
She made friends with people who taught her how to rap, how to sing, how to mix tracks, how to stream, etc, all for free. And she used those skills and connections to use the resources of Hololive to their fullest, doing more than just streaming Vidya and the bare minimum needed to be called a 'musician'.
I'm happy Bae and Kiara are following in Mori's footsteps and are working on their own EPs.

Why do any of the Mori seethe posts read like " It should've been me" posts. All projection, no substance.

>>52390941
People aren't drawn to Hololive due to a 2 hour video of zatsudan or gameplay, they are drawn to it through animations, songs, visual art, and then there is the double-edged sword that is clips and shorts that make people pay more attention to vtubers in the first place. This is why most vtubers perform a combination of them. Because they want their own art to be seen and because doing so generates views — 10M/day vs. 2M/day.
Ina's LC was peak entertainment (it is on par with her anniversary, minecraft, ER and drawing streams number-wise) but that's all they were.

>>52387159
I still think this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbB3KsFRv4U
Is what she should be doing more of. That's her sound and what she needs to sound like instead of wigger crap or high pitched anime stuff

>>52394822
Well, the good news is we're not getting more 'wigger crap' or 'high-pitched anime stuff'.
The bad news is we're not getting more stuff like Beat Eater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEHbF1PsLI4
This apparently is her 'new sound' going forward.

>>52394052
ppl that are drawn by holo is the culture that it has, the rest comes from clips and tribalism, when it comes to art after 5 years of classes for paper shit, the first thing you notice is that whatever form of entertainment is considered art (to put it simply for you, to put a personality public means to play a role in the artistic form) aka the reaper or death or father or the music shit she is dead without myth anon like ame, let her go out of myth holo rn and she would indie with 200 wiews

>>52394052
I was drawn to hololive through gameplay and zatsudans, and if you asked people who spend money on them they would also be the same

>>52394987
Wtf is this shit. It sounds like rapping on top of a visual kei mashup with a gabber bass kick way at the back

>>52395498
Yup, it's her new sound going forward. If the RRATs are real, her next EP is going to have that kind of vibe while collabing with Creepy Nuts and REOL... Who don't make that kind of music, so it'll be interesting.

>>52381626
Being a coddled white woman in the early 21st century. Her tits. And her bod before she allowed bad living, rampant alcoholism and lockdown-induced inactivity to ruin it.
She can crawl back from this, though. Whether it's through the power of spite or otherwise.

>>52388516
she is not a singer, all her music is rap shit

>>52396122
here we go
>creppy nuts
>roel
anon ho the fuck outside of you and few degens ever herd of that, there is a great amount of good singers and song righter on yt that will never go outside of 200 views that is mori future because she never felt part of holo

>>52381626
a label deal and funneling deadbeats to her PL

>>52389968
yea, the idea that her music career is failing is hilarious when shes years into performing constant concerts with teddyloid, doing collaborations with people like nano and you can be for sure 100% certain zutomayo wouldve been just fine collaborating with her roommate.

she might've needed holo to get the word out, the same way that literally -every- other artist in existence needs a platform to showcase their work, but the idea that her music career isn't absolutely thriving both in popularity and with music industry professionals in the country she moved across the world to create music in, is hilarious, and all time cope

>>52381626
She works hard. A lot of Hololive members would stop streaming while working on their EP. She does endurance streams every other day.

If it's true that after auditions Cover immediately accepted Kiara and Mori but took longer to finally choose Ina, Ame, and Gura, I think it's funny that if Cover was prioritizing which talents would work the hardest, they were spot on with their assessments.

she is already at the id lvl of views imagine en 3 coming up with some good chubas and some solid songs, mori & ame are in the biggest shiet at the moment

>>52389883
Ive never seen an anon rekt someone this bad, good job.

>>52400501
what do you smoke anon so i can tell my kids to stray far away from that shiet

>>52397935
Anon? Spotify isn't even the main music streaming platform in Japan either, its just the only one you get clear numbers for.

>>52381626
Free yakiniku

>>52391746
anon (you) are a retard

>>52401741
i can list you 10 1m+ channels only in the black metal genre that ppl don't know shiet about them, i really don't know how this is a confirmation of something, this can be something special only if we were talking about an indie

>>52387729
>single handedly put the whole music side of holoen on her back
Yeah and all of it sucks

>>52382992
fpbp

>>52388739
This.

>>52390458
She still breathes

>>52387159
>>52398959
>>52399216

>>52403831
No one with ears or a brain wants anything to do with Mori. Why watch obese wigger when you can watch ricecat or reeeduck?

>>52382992
in a row?

>>52407678
How’d you think she got fat so quickly after her debut?

>>52393183
>She made friends with people who taught her how to rap, how to sing, how to mix tracks, how to stream, etc, all for free
none of this is true

>>52407875
And the reason management haven't Rushia'd her yet after all those yabs.

>>52407952
Fra and Ci of Boogey Voxx taught her how to rap and sing when she was just starting out and Milky Queen taught her about vtubers, idol culture, and streaming.

>>52398396
And its all thanks to being Holo and siphoning fans

>>52404742
>Yoasobi doesn't have a brain
>Creepy Nuts doesn't have a brain
>Zuttomayo doesn't have a brain

Keep on copin.

>>52408590
>still seething.
If you actually tried and auditioned instead of seething 24/7 over Pink Woman, you probably would've gotten into a Corpo, 2view.

>>52408678
Yes, all three statements are correct. Problem, Cuckbeat?

>>52408795
>PEOPLE ONLY HATE MORI BECAUSE THEY'RE JEALOUS!! I SWEAR IT'S TRUE!! WAAAAAAAAAHHH
lol Cuckbeat cope comes in such fascinating little flavours.

>>52381626
work ethic. kiara was right to sex her because she got some of that sweet work ethic juice.