/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5227307
cute noises

Armpit farts.

There's nothin to taco 'bout

>>5227307
psychic loli communication

>>5227307
Cunny telecommunication

Weird noises and hums

>>5227307
watch kiniro mosaic

>>5227307
>gura
>actually communicate
>during a collab
lol

i hope a lot of porn comes this

>>5227307
Through her cunny, anon, she'll communicate with nacho through her cunny

>>5227307
In cat language

>>5227307
Copious use of "cute."

>>5227307
It's Mario Kart. They don't need to talk to each other or coordinate things in the game like, at all. It's not like A Way Out where they need to really talk, rather the total opposite and I don't see why that wouldn't have been thought out on purpose.

They literally can just make happy/annoyed noises/laugh at each other as they pass or use items on each other in the game for like 90% of the stream. The tricky part will be greeting and chatting with each other in the beginning/end parts where it's unavoidable. I mean ideally they'd try to chat a bit while playing the game too but it wouldn't be too bad if they didn't.

Also we really don't know if Nacho actually has a bit of English skill or not; most Japanese are taught English in elementary school and know it sort of like how many Americans were taught Spanish for years and technically know a bit - not enough to really talk but they can try to get by. I mean Mel actually could say a few sentences and talk a bit in English when collabing with Ame which was surprising because prior to that I had never heard her speak it - it turns out she's visited the US before, actively practices it etc.

>>5227395
My two favorite things in one

they have been talking for a while for obvious reasons so she will probably be fine

cute noises

>>5227307
Squeaky toy noises and cutesy giggles

>>5227307
Tongue-to-cunny communication.

>>5227307
Grunts.

nyan~

>>5227307
pure soul

>>5227307
Nacho well I imagine

>>5227307
Tongue to tongue.

Gura did just say on stream the two where hanging out a little bit ago so I have hopes that this won’t be a disaster

>>5229320
Nacho can't speak english at all.
She lets google translate do all the work for her because she can't communicate at all with her english audience.

>>5227307
>communicate
they will instead make a mukbang

>>5227307
Loli sign language

>>5227307
anon, do you know how cats communicate? they just excrete a massive amount of pheromone then fuck, thats it, maybe meow a lil bit, its that simple, no need to talk.

>>5227307
“Uh… ni ni nihongo Jaizo uh… yabai uh… gomen uh… shumimasen”

Nacho: “is she retarded”

Nihongo Jaws desune.

Guys, I'm scared. Will I be able to withstand the cringe?

Remember to follow mama anon...

https://www.twitch.tv/nacho_dayo

>>5251853
I can't.
Go on without me chumbuds

They both SUCK at videogames

>>5252854
Like mother like daughter I guess

>>5252854
and nyacho sucks at vtubing she is siu lee tier of deadpan

>>5253051
She's literally only doing it to have a cute avatar and to be with other girls who have cute avatars.

This is so sad. People would kill to be in the position of a holoEN just to have natives to speak Japanese with, especially considering they basically cant say no and switch to English like most japs in the wild will do. Gura, Ame and Mori could have become super proficient in just these 8 months if they put in effort to speak with the JPs like Coco did. Such wasted opportunity

>>5253400
Mori and Ame definitely could learn.Gura is too lazy to do anything

>>5253400
Why would you apply for a talent agency just to have native speakers to talk to? What? Get a social media friend or something.

>>5253604
people on those social media language sharing sites are usually busy so youll get like 1 conversation a week or theyre just straight up flaky. Honestly my preferred alternative if you dont know anybody and just want to talk with people is VR chat

Jesus christ this is actually embarrassing to watch.
who thought this was a good idea?

Not sure how people fine this cringe. They're really cute together even though they can barely communicate. Nacho is extremely shy even in her own streams, this whole stream is nothing but cute and funny.

>>5254155
Gura desperately filling dead air with meaningless noises and Japanese accented English is peak cringe, you're blinded by cunny

>>5254353
> filling dead air with meaningless noises and Japanese accented English
Anon with Gura this IS cunny

If only Cover had a bilingual EN/JP holo with charisma...haha...

>>5245095
If only.

>>5254155
Anon please… just give up.

Why am I watching this? I'm not even chummer

This is... it's just terrible. Please don't do collabs like this anymore if both parties don't have a common language.

>>5254796
everyone loves cute noises

>>5254521
They have a backup bilingual orange woman

The bigger problem is that the morons keep rejoining, and it's too much of a hassle for Gura to do anything about it because she has a guest and they can't understand each other.

>>5254835
Who is so inferior to Coco they might as well be alien.

she communicates with her mom better than I ever did with mine

>>5254824
... you could just not watch it?

>>5254900
if he knew how to do that, trinityposting wouldn't exist

>>5253751
move to Japan if you want to learn Japanese so badly

>>5254155
Autists are obsessed with a specific skill like speaking a different language, so when they see Gura and Mama failling to communicate their interpret it as a ""failure"" when the intrinsic appeal is the language barrier and how they barely get around it in the first place.

>>5254521
Kiara and most of ID are relatively fluent in english and japanese.

This is what peak content looks like.

>>5254900
It's a waste of a stream and collab, I'm allowed to criticize it. The numbers speak for themselves.. the JOPs are pretty vocal about their distaste as well.

>>5255212
Also Haato but she's taking a break rn

>curry shark

>>5255236
>the JOPs are pretty vocal about their distaste as well
who cares what the JOPs think?
Gura is an English streamer...

>>5255236
imagine caring what bugs think

>>5255236
The screenshots Global posted are not like that at all, where's the criticism?

>>5255236
>The numbers speak for themselves
the only numbers i'm seeing are constant 20k viewers and at least 6 red superchats in a row though?

>>5255236
This. Gura should've collabed with Kana instead

>>5255236
>a waste
if you don't like this, you fucking hate any other JP collab Gura did, so this is already worthwhile in removing your expectations about such a collab.

>>5255697
Anon please, there's literally nothing going on in the stream. There's no interaction, for all we know Gura could just be playing MK8 by herself. It's a shitty stream, stop trying gaslight yourself into liking it.

It's a feeling like somehow these two cuties are putting out just enough energy between them to maintain a surface tension keeping them afloat

>>5255833
Kiara isn’t look so bad now, does she? Who would have thought that having an extrovert with conversation skills would be so important to keeping conversations going?

>>5255833
so a regular Gura stream with some occasional cute interaction?
that's literally what we wanted?

>>5255908
Kiara being too pushy and talking over people is actually a bad thing

>>5255924
>dead silence and random sounds
this is a stream worth watching for you types?

>>5256028
Don't bother anon, they've deluded themselves into thinking its good.

i just tuned in
have they just been going
>kawaii
>kawaiii
>yeehaaw
for an hour?

>>5255833
literally nothing?
the whole stream's been cute sounds, occasional feats of communication, a fierce competition to at least beat the other, "mama doko?", "gura :(", shrieks from both of them. Pay more attention. This isn't a tech podcast.

>>5256028
yes and if you don't like it then that's on you
there is a reason why Gura has 2.9 mil subs and no one else in HL has anywhere near

>>5256098
this is what cognitive dissonance looks like.

it's like people that watch Korone cause "haha funny sounds doggo".

>>5227307
>communicate
lol

>>5256118
Yep, Usada Pekora or Marine must be worse than this random soundboard streamer at entertaining. Numbers mean everything in terms of entertainment, after all.

>>5256083
Pretty much. The most complex interaction was Gura asking her what color her panties were, of course.

>>5256150
look I'd definitely get bored if there was more than one stream like this, but there are things happening in the stream if you pay attention to it.

>>5255236
Citation needed, premise not supported. It's evidently not a waste of a stream. I am of the opinion that you are a faggot and gay.

>>5256204
if 20k people have decided it's a stream worth watching anon, then it *IS* a stream worth watching,

>>5256288
Kanata gets more viewers digging dirt in minecraft. Not that numbers matter, as 21k are watching this train wreck.

>>5255833
>You can only like streams with in-depth conversations!
You're too apathetic/autist to get the appeal of this stream.

>>5256438
She’s still making more money than you on this train wreck

>>5256601
and? Pekora does too but she's actually charismatic and entertaining.

lol it's just a stream of gura making weird noises

>>5256535
There's a difference between "in-depth conversations" and literal spans of silence and dead air.

>>5255689
I have conflicting thoughts about this. While it'd be cute and perhaps even funny, I'm not sure if they're pals enough. With a nip the language barrier is its own excuse for failure to communicate, but with another en silence usually means something's gone wrong. I think they could easily be friends though.

>>5256671
there's not that much dead air, probably the same amount of dead air as an Ina stream

>>5254835
>charisma

>>5256734

what are they whispering about both liking? missed it

>>5256630
They’re both making more money than you on this train wreck. Cry

>>5257030
Okay, making more money than me at home (I don't work 24/7) doesn't change if a stream is shit or not.

>All this cumchud cope
Oof, thank god i'm an impartial chuuba enjoyer.
Imagine being obliged to like a stream just because your current favorite is on it.
Literally just compare this dead weary distressing air to her collab 3 hours ago.

>>5257021
>it's DBD
oh of course it is. All women like serial killers.
I'd be OK with another stream like this if they switch off playing the killer in a 5-queue

>>5257073
It’s obviously not shit if they’re still raking in money and getting 19k viewers. Cry

lol it's just random words now
>celery.
>celery?
>celery!
>celery.

Why nerds are so scared of dead air? Flashbacks from school? There's nothing wrong here.

>>5257131
Okay anon, if you enjoy silence and weird noises then download a soundboard and have it play random clips. Have fun!

>>5257076
Imagine wasting your time on something that you don't like... oh wait

>kabedon
uhhh

>>5227307
clumsily but cutely.

>>5256718
There's also the fact that Gura has way more subs and viewers than Kana, so her chumbud fanbase would literally choke Kana out. Gura is also WAAAY older than Kana so generational gap would make it awkward.

>>5257179
Okay anon go pay if you want top level entertainment! Plus they’re streaming for free and still making more money than you

>>5255689
Kana gets really shy during collabs, worse than Ame or Gura

>>5257413
so what's their age(s)?

>>5257487
Why do you keep going on about earnings? Pekora earns a lot and is actually entertaining, that's the difference.

>>5257517
why do you keep going on about Pekora?

>>5257565
Because stream quality matters, not how much they earn

>>5257565
i want her

Well, at least they’re super cute

>>5257585
Gura's stream quality is high
you just don't enjoy it

>>5257509
Kana is barely legal and Gura is almost pushing her 30s

>oki do-
gura stopped herself from saying oki dokI

>>5257631
Ok! You enjoy your noises!

>>5257413
Korone has like 10 years on Okayu and they get along great.

>>5257652
>enjoy your noises
>likes pekora
??????

>>5255192
The failure is in being as entertaining as any other stream

>>5257639
no she isn't

>>5256028
>actually trying to engage any sort of thought out of Gura's drone-like fanbase
A noble effort, but a useless one.

>>5257413
Hahaha yeah can you imagine if two vtubers with a large age gap collabed, wouldn't that be so awkward? Two girls over a decade apart could never be close friends with each other. Pic totally unrelated of course, not sure why I posted that.

>le cute
yeah right.

>>5257700
Yeah but both Okayu and Korone are adults, there's a difference. Kana is quite literally a zoomer.

Gura tried everything nacho just kept silent.

>>5257771
yet it's Okayu that takes care of Korone

>>5255588
Simps will be simps.
Gura could have sex with her boyfriend on stream and they would still throw money at her.
Oh wait, she actually did that.

>>5257708
Pekora is a lot more than a laugh, just as Marine is more than a horny pirate, cause they actually have charisma and the ability to speak.

>>5257843
She was the Mori of the collab

>>5257809
some zoomers are quite literally adults

>5257863
ogey rrat

This was worse than Mori x Coco, worse than Kiara x Nyanners.
Apologize, apologize right fucking now.

>>5257881
Gura has charisma and the ability to speak
You don't attract this many fans across multiple channels with no charisma
she even speaks in a language commonly used around the globe

>>5257903
Kana sure isn't though. Maybe legally, but not mentally.

>>5257809
I get along great with my 60 year old coworkers. Two people doing something together can get along even with the age gap

>>5257995
She literally has no personality and got subs cause of going viral.
>haha do they have restaurants in atlantis?
truly, a zatusdan master far beyond Marine.

>>5257962
>Mori x Coco
cinge
>Kiara x Nyanners
kino
>Gura x Amashiro Mama
uhhh celery uhhhh like? hm hm

MY DOG DIED, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5257517
Ok so pekora and gura could give the shittiest stream ever and they’re still more entertaining and making more money than you, anon

>5257863
this post will somehow survive the thread

>>5258051
just because *you* don't personally find her entertaining
doesn't mean that she isn't entertaining.
>got subs cause of going viral
There is a reason why she went viral and the others didn't
she's special

>>5257962
Everybody except emotionless robots IRL enjoyed this stream, cope.

>>5258089
I live comfortably, I want entertainment not superchat figures. If the most boring person ever earns $10000000 that doesn't make them entertaining.

>>5258051
She went viral because of her personality retard.

>>5258147
Pekora is special, Marine is special and has a gift for speaking, there is nothing this shark has over those two in terms of ability. Not a thing.

>>5258051
>She literally has no personality
Lol I havent seen this cope in awhile

>>5258051
>Using material from LAST YEAR as example
Embarassing, I know antis aren't well-informed because they don't care, but at least don't spill your bullshit.

>>5258051
Anon, you don't watch her streams. You just have her rent free in your head.

If she was boring and didn't have a personality, she wouldn't attract large crowds of people every stream. Her growth would become stagnant. She wouldn't be talked about every day and all day.

I agree that not every stream is good and perfect, but that's just how it goes with any streamer.

>>5258258
Cope? You think Gura speaks better than Marine? Is this bait?

>>5258179
Actually it was because the algorithm boosted her Minecraft content to kids and toddlers. Her streams were the top recommended in the Kids section of YouTube during her debut.

>>5258238
ah, so you hate the shark its unjustified numbers.
what a surprise you didn't enjoy or even notice all the worthwhile moments in this stream.

>>5258147
plenty of shit youtubers have millions of subs

>>5258316
Not hate at all actually, but the notion that "more subs = better streamer" is so stupid that it isn't even worth discussing.

>>5258238
She can sing better for one

>>5258238
Some japs hate Marine/Pekora with passion but like Gura, the culture/language barrier makes you appreciate the other side more, you think you know the truth but you're being played by your human psychology.

>>5258323
yeah but they clearly have a personality that's connected in some way

>>5258362
This is the biggest meme in /vt/, she isn't even close to Towa tier who isn't even as good as Suisei or Azki.

Even Risu mogs them.

>>5258288
How does one "speak better", retard? How do you quantify that? Also how does that have anything to do with the fact that Gura has a lot of personality? Is personality somehow a zero sum resource in your retarded little mind? Lol.

>>5258147
Wait, you actually believe that the algorithm decided that Gura is better than her genmates?
You think that numbers in a computer determined who's the best of them?
Are chumcucks really that retarded?

>>5258440
Did I ever say she was?
She's certainly better then Pekora and Marine

>>5258305
She was already rocketing past everyone way before she even started minecraft newfag.

>>5258453
The algorithm didn't, the audience did.
There is a real human behind every one of those 2.9 million subscribers

>>5258507
If we're being objective, the most talented EN is Ina, but she has the fewest subs. Subs don't reflect talent.

>>5258440
>the antis actually believe this
Anon implying any of the other girls are even in the same tier as Gura in singing ability ks literally the most fucking obvious way to out yourself as a moron. Just admit you don't watch streams. Holy fucking lol, Towa?

>>5258446
>How does one "speak better", retard? How do you quantify that?
Are you being serious right now? didn't know this place had literal toddlers.

>>5258558
Yes, Towa who has a powerful voice is a lot better than the karaoke-tier shark with no range.

>>5258490
Not really, she gained some deadsubs after her twitter presence, but it was really the toddlersubs that boosted her. You clearly don't remember her debut.

>>5258537
check again, she does not have the fewest subs
Also Gura can sing 10x better then Ina,
Ina is a better artist but she's not as entertaining and doesn't appeal to as wide an audience

>>5258562
So you have no argument, no elaboration, no details, you're just typing whatever random vague shit you can think up and then crying when you get called out, got it.

>>5258583
>gura
>no range
Hahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muRkNPuQco

How are there STILL people as fucking stupid as you? Even most of the antis gave up trying to criticize Gura's singing months ago.

>>5257863
>boyfriend
wut
>she actually did that
double wut. Is this a decent rrat, or just shizoposting?

>>5258483
i agree about the pekora part, but marine singing in her low voice is pretty good in this cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYtt0inzDR4
i think gura has a great voice too, but comparing a soprano to an alto in this sense isn't very fair, gura has a very light voice and can't deliver power that someone like suisei can

>>5258745
shizoposting

>>5258745
The most schizo of schizo

>>5258744
As I said, Towa has a much better voice and you are either deaf or just dumb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UV8OZj2olg

>>5258745
Check the last bits of her Ring Fit stream.
No es fake.

>>5258785
suisei is probably the best singer in all of Hololive
that doesn't stop Gura from being a better/ more appealing singer then Marine

>>5258745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyBH0OS-eps&t=16285

>>5258832
Towa having a better voice has nothing to do with anything

>>5258832
>recorded track
Hahahahahaha are you fucking retarded

>>5258899
Jaybros... we won...

>>5258305
>First vtuber to reach 1 million followers on twitter
It sure is a kids

>>5258918
> : (

>>5258925
We're evaluating talent, would you like to hear any other song by Towa to show her range and singing ability? Watch any utawaku. You're comparing someone with a strong voice to someone that has a weak voice, and can't do songs like she can.

>>5258880
>suisei is probably the best singer in all of Hololive
Lmao, she's not even top 3, and there's a huge fucking powergap between Gura and second place.

>>5258993
>We're evaluating talent
Exactly, now listen to Towa try to sing that live where singing takes actual talent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMhFUYOQnKE

She's not even half as good as Gura on a bad day, let alone Gura's real top tier stuff.

>>5259000
who is better then her then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlMPu5sEgw
listen to her new song and she destroys Calli

>>5258993
Can you explain your qualifications to evaluate talent, anon?

>>5258899
Kek, what a retard, it's not even as half decent as ollie rrat, you fags don't even put in any effort this time

>>5258880
yeah, i agree. i personally really like gura's voice, but i won't discredit marine, she has a good voice when she's not doing the pitch shift like she does in ahoy i also really like polka's voice because of how expressive she is, even though i can see why people wouldn't like her

>>5258974
>implying kids dont have twitter
??? Are you literally 30 years old?

>>5259089
Having two fucking ears and realizing someone can sing with a wide range and the other person can never hit the notes she can?

LITERALLY inferior vocals.

>>5258925
I think I know who this schizo is. It's useless to have an argument, he will always say that Gura is the very best ever. I tried to discuss with him and I lost time (or I was trolled, idk)

>>5259110
Yes anon, the light switch clicked itself.

>>5259084
>recorded song again
You fucking morons need to stop trying to discuss singing when you can't even link live performances, for one.

For another Callie isn't especially good either, just a bit above average, although she's improving.

The standout singers in hololive are Gura and Risu and even Risu isn't really close enough to challenge Gura for that first place, she's very solidly second. The next best are Azki, Watame and Moona in some order, but none of them are really good enough to stand out from each other.

>>5259140
singing with a wider range alone
does not make one a better singer

>>5259110
anon, your cope is showing....

>>5259218
Ok let's just agree to disagree. I personally think Towa has a better voice. You like the monotone shark. Enjoy what you enjoy.

>>5259140
Anon I literally linked a video in this very thread where Gura hit far higher notes than Towa has the ability to. And that's not even to discuss resonance, accuracy in the notes, or any other technique.

>>5259133
lol cope

>>5259218
This but also Gura's range destroys Towa anyway so it's a moot point.

>>5258872
There are four of them. That's a lot of digging to find something as subtle as >>5258899 to build a rrat on

>>5259206
oh I'm sorry I didn't know that a prerecorded song meant that it was actually sung by someone else and therefore doesn't count

>>5259140
Oh okay. I kinda thought that you actually had something to go off of besides your opinion. Guess your arguments are pretty shit then

>>5258163
>the most boring person
That’s where you’re wrong anon. Obviously they are entertaining if they are making money from the entertainment industry

>>5259325
You're just a sharkfag who will never admit Suisei is a better singer so let's stop wasting our time. There is no point trying to convince toddlers like you anything.

>>5259359
the free market has decided that she's the most entertaining

>>5259315
Anon if you don't understand how much of a difference recorded and mixed tracks are compared to the difficulty of live singing you have no fucking businesses even talking about this subject at all, you are a complete peasant.

I'm just going to quote one of my old posts because I already explained it perfectly once:

>If Gura only had perfect pitch, she would be in A tier.
>If she only had a fully developed harmonic tone, she would be A.
>If she only had perfect head voice/mixed voice transitions, she would be A.
>If she only had the best vibrato in the industry, she would be A.
>Any two of those, she would be S tier.
>She's got all four.
>Anyone putting Gura anywhere below the top spot is either completely ignorant of singing technique and has a bad ear, or they are EN hating /hlg/ autists practicing cope as an artform.

Nobody else in hololive besides Risu even has developed fucking tone let alone that perfect storm of ability all together.

>>5259228
>>5259184
Ah yes, a skit about chat leaving her bedroom and she emphasized it by making the clicking noise, or having a light switch file but you are too retards to read into it and thinks that's the boyfriend

>>5259420
since when has the free market decided on anything good

>>5259409
>admit Suisei is a better singer
Not that anon but you have to be delusional to even begin to think this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei4Zokk5kGs

Find me one live Suisei performance that's even halfway close to this. You won't because I've already watched all of them.

>>5259512
you're just embarrassing yourself now, you and I both know what actually happened

>>5259481
Gura has had prerecorded tracks before and she always sounds worse then she does live. That's the real reason you don't want to talk about prerecorded songs.

>>5259307
>Jay the pussyslayer has entered the chat
>*Sudden panic, pauses game*
>*Proceeds to ignore it*
>Chat goes wild
>Oh fuck oh shit
>Unplug stream
>UNPLUG STREAM
https://youtu.be/GrocXhe9W1s?t=4568

>>5259549
I'm not taking this bait. Go listen to Tenkyuu or NCP, i'm done arguing with kids.

>>5259514
The second they decided Gura was the one

>>5227307
Who the fuck is nacho neko.
That shit was worse then the brapper ex dragonwhore meme review. fr fr

>>5259573
>and she always sounds worse then she does live
Yes that means the mixers fucking sucked, anon. Live performances can't be cheated, they can't "lie". If you're better in live than recorded, the sound engineer was bad at their job. If you're better in recorded than live, that's just normal because recorded tracks that are properly mixed are able to fix your fuck-ups.

All that matters for objective measure of ability are live performances.

>>5259585
>gets blown the fuck out by posted proof
>runs away
Bye bitch, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>5259554
I'm not the one going different places making up bait and retarded rrat in my brain with all sort of mental gymnastic tho so i don't know

>>5259633
>Live performances can't be cheated, they can't "lie"
You sure about that anon?
then why do they insist on using effects on their vocals like reverb and autotune?

>>5259585
I love it when you seethe, anon. Don't leave yet. You haven't properly defended your oshi!

>gura antis get utterly destroyed as usual about her singing
>switch to dead boyfriend rrats
Hahaha the absolute cope

>>5259689
>then why do they insist on using effects on their vocals like reverb and autotune?
Gura has no pitch correction in her live karaoke, and every singer ever uses reverb. Like all of them, it's fucking standard practice.

>>5259584
Bros...?
Wtf?

>>5259769
I'm not saying Gura's a bad singer she obviously isn't
but being a good singer matters nill when your official releases sound garbage

>>5259815
>but being a good singer matters nill when your official releases sound garbage
That's the nips fault for doing their stupid vocaloid shit. But since those releases aren't on Gura's channel I don't count them yet. When she releases something on her own channel then we can talk about that.

>>5259679
Anon, do you actually think a healthy girl like Gura doesn't have a bf living with her? You're REALLY naive.

>people actually think Risu and Suisei are worse
the delusion of these people.

>>5259769
>utterly destroyed as usual about her singing
I think you have a very broad definition of "destroyed", go grab a dictionary. Nobody is arguing with you not because you won but because you are dense like milk left in the sun for 2 weeks. That or you are trolling

>>5259892
they genuinely ruined her voice on country roads and sorairo days

>>5259919
You can cope all you want but in all of these arguments Gura supporters back their side up with actual video clips, specific detailed explanation of elements of technique and comparisons, and all the antis ever do is say "NUH UH" with absolutely no evidence or at best they post a fucking pre-recorded song that means nothing. A good sound engineer can make Amelia sound professional.

>>5259916
>>5258176

>>5259954
I know, it's infuriating.

>>5260031
>specific detailed explanation of elements of technique
Yep, this dude is trolling definitely. Stop giving him attention

>>5259940
>>5260109
That's a lot of words to say you're coping because you have no argument at all.

>gets wrecked by actual arguments with proof so resorts to just calling it trolling
Bro you're so fucking transparent it's embarrassing.

>>5260043
Gura has been known to make shit up just for kayfabe of being a lazy shark.

>>5259584
I love how this just gets ignored.

>>5258051
Hi cumshark, you don't need to self-depreciate, Gura.

>>5260031
Risu sings better even with no music. Really.

>>5258899
WHY AM I JUST NOW HEARING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS YUBIGATE LEVEL

>>5260223
Because it's a dead as fuck rrat that no one but clipwatching /hlg/fags still discuss since they weren't around to see it get murdered and think it's somehow relevant months and months later.

>he is still trying to force the light switch narrative
feels like "Milhouse is not a meme" all over again

>>5260234
Risu's very good but I've done side by side comparisons and she falls short of Gura's skill on average. That doesn't mean she's worse at every song though.

>>5260043
Nobody said a good boyfriend.

>gura has a difficult time producing power and has a hard time belting, which could be a result of her not wanting to disturb her neighbors, is very clearly a soprano
>suisei has a no problem with power or range and is very clearly an alto
i think risu is a good singer and mixing brings her in line with the other top holo singers, gura is the girl you go to church with who has an angelic like voice but wouldn't really be a good stage singer, and suisei is a very good stage singer because she push and carry from her chest vs her head

>>5260234
Dude, don't pay attention to the schizo. He always says the same no matter with you compare her

>>5260201
>I deny what Gura has said herself because it disproves my schizo narrative

>>5260368
Gura has repeatedly destroyed the "can't belt" meme in several recent karaokes, anon. She also does most of her singing sitting down and the difference when she stands up is noticeable, which anyone who knows anything about singing understands.

>>5260385
>schizo calling others schizo now
You're cute

>>5259584
>>5259916
>>5260201
>>5260340
I don't know how Switch's work....does someone have to be playing the next room over to get that alert? Or is it just an "Online friend is online" message?

alright, who is the realest schizo in this thread?

>>5260451
Idk dude. I'm definitely not trolling to get attention on an anonymous forum

>>5260268
How was it murdered?
t. late to the party

>>5258899
She's telling the chat to hit the light switch because she's going to sleep on her couch, and the sound is nothing like a light switch and it's probably her drink from earlier. Hope no one is falling for this half-assed bait.
>>5260533
do your archive reps nigger

>>5260533
It just did, okay?

>>5260533
Jay's abundance of depression tweets about how he can't go anywhere on the internet without seeing sen/gura clips or memes and being reminded and how bad it hurts him etc.

They did date over the internet but they never met in person and Gura obviously dumped him many months before joining hololive.

>>5260522
You literally are by repeatedly claiming all these obviously worse singers are better than Gura while being completely unable to provide a single bit of video proof.

>>5260560
I'm a dinosaur from before archives on 4chan were even a thing, and the new technology scares me.

Breh... I feel really bad and don't feel too good. To think that this is the cute and soft-sounding girl people were sending death threats at because she made a botch on Gura's model.

>>5260806
Retarded frogposter. Nacho is the artist not the rigger.

>>5260806
It wasn't to her her. She did the design, not the model.

>>5260417
i'm going to assume that you are one who posted the skyfall vid earlier, see this part
https://youtu.be/ei4Zokk5kGs?t=115
vs
https://youtu.be/OtUBR8xjtyw?t=101

this is certainly not a belting part but the point i'm trying to make is she doesn't have the power to back her vocals in songs which require it, which like i said before might be her limiting herself because she doesn't want to disturb her neighbors. gura is very good don't get me wrong, but i personally think suisei is better sounding because she is able to deliver in the areas that gura is deficient. suisei can produce nothing close to the light tone that gura is able to create, but that's because they have different voices. i'm really excited to hear gura live when they get 3d models and are able to have an EN concert, since she'll be able to let it all out and not worry about making too much noise

>>5260806
anonchama... the live2d rigger and artist are in 99% of cases done by separate people, nachomama did not do gura's rigging

>>5260792
Some archives go back to at least 2008, I found a couple of my old posts. Sure it's not 2004 but the archives are huge

>>5260706
Me? I'm not repeating nothing like that, I'm another anon. I'm just saying that you are trolling and I never said anything else. I'm not arguing with someone who doesn't want to discuss and always thinks he's right

>>5260806
>**********************
Wow who woulda thonk

>>5260868
>but i personally think suisei is better sounding because she is able to deliver in the areas that gura is deficient
Suisei often can't actually hit the notes on pitch when she belts, though, so it doesn't matter if she puts more power behind it. This isn't hate on Suisei, it's just observation.

Also there are examples of Gura going higher power than that song. It's certainly something she can focus on improving but it's not like a huge deficiency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZG1K05CF14

This performance was scuffed due to not knowing lyrics/timing very well but you can see her demonstrate real vocal power at parts of it.

>>5260910
>I'm not arguing with someone who doesn't want to discuss and always thinks he's right
But you're describing yourself. I discuss very much in detail and I actually back up my claims with evidence, I've posted like 4 or 5 song clips in this thread, while you do nothing of the sort because you have no arguments. You're the one who won't admit you're wrong.

>>5261098
I'm not describing myself. I'm simple not arguing, you are a waste of time. If you want someone to tell you that you won I'll say it: You won, dude. Congrats on your winning

>>5260657
Who is this person depression-tweeting about seeing gura?

>>5261063
yeah i see your point, i haven't listened to much to suisei's karaoke songs since i'm an EOP, i hope gura gets a concert debut this year because i'm excited to hear her live

with that said sometimes i would rather listen to polka because she sounds like an extremely lazy singer, almost like she's drunk. i really enjoy how expressive she is with her tone, her style is a lot different from all the other holos

>>5261212
passive-aggressive faggot.

>>5261286
my rrat : sober buddy

>>5257413
>Gura is also WAAAY older than Kana
Cute rrat. What do you feed it to get is so fat?

Gura is 23. Even on the small chance she lied about her bday on that profile we know she was still living with her parents in 2017 and playing with children's toys so I'd put money 1:10 that shes 23±2.

>>5260657
>Protected tweets
How would anyone know what he's posted?

>>5262680
He protected them after people from here started harassing him. J*y's had a hard life...

>>5262405
23+ is definitely more likely. How would someone get blitzed on the regular as far back as 2018 if they were under 21? And what gave you insight to living with parents in 2017 ?

>>5262772
Poor lad. I wouldn't make it if Gura was within reach but then I failed to seal the deal. And then schizo harassment on top of it. Are there screencaps in the archives?

>>5259584
kek

>>5262976
I really do hope you're lying, for his sake. I'd rather not have a chance at all than get that close and still not make it.

>>5263750
Meant for >>5260657

>>5263750
LDRs are a joke to begin with

>>5263750
I would never recover

>>5261557
Not the same anon, but I worry about Suisei's voice since she strains it every other note during karaoke. Gura knows her voice so well and uses it perfectly. It's like shredding on an electric guitar versus strumming peacefully on a ukelele.

She wont

>>5262868
I'm a boomer and a lot of references she makes lead me to estimate her age to at least 30. Some of them were essentially gone from pop culture when I was 16, so I can't see how she could be much younger than me and still know about them.

>>5228645
so scissoring?

>>5264957
30+ is pushing it. Playing Barbie Horse Adventure when you're 14 or older isn't something I even saw the horse-girls at my school do.

>>5265419
That you saw them do, and we're talking about autism here. I'll go as low as 25 but no lower. There's just no way with some of the things she says unless she grew up watching recorded 90's cable. I would also put Ame in the same age range due to one time mentioning seeing the first Pokemon movie in theaters (came out in 1999).

>>5256601
>>5257030
>>5257131
>>5257487
>>5257631
>>5258089
>>5259359
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>>5257631
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>>5257995
This is your brain on meds, everyone.

>>5258057
also this is your brain on meds.
Literal meds taker right here.

>>5261063
https://youtu.be/dLGqMbrke5c
I think this is better example. The edit just cut the part where she pause due to not remember the lyric.

>>5265516
25 sounds just right

>>5262868
>How would someone get blitzed on the regular as far back as 2018
A vagina and friends.

>>5265766
I don't know now. I got to thinking and remembered her making a huge boomer comment one time about how her favorite Windows screen saver was the one with the pipes. I couldn't even believe it at the time because it made her sound even older than I was. She does other stuff like singing Nsync songs perfectly, mentioning Carmen Sandiego, etc. She constantly dates herself so bad; its why chat always calls her boomer shark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKqrLGFoK9E

>>5265766
>never watched Star Wars
nah she didn't lie about her age

>>5259206
Gura fags actually believe this

>>5265871
Makes sense for going out to drink, but not as much for having your own supply to drink while making videos and streaming anytime you want. It also doesn't sound much like the lonely, socially anxious/awkward shark we know.

>>5265901
Those are all right up my era's alley, and I aint 30 yet. Schools using ancient computers also made those 90's relics last well into the 00's.

>>5265901
So when you go on 4chan at 12 in 2009 you develop like this.

I did too, I make references to things 30 year olds freak out about and call me a boomer for, and ask how I knew about it before they could drink.

It's just that some of us get into things before you, that doesn't make us better or worse, just... not you, I guess?

>>5266487
>go on 4chan at 12 in 2009
Damn, how'd you swing that one, anon? A literal "I'm 12 and what is this." I thought I was rare for finding hentai on the internet at 11.

>>5266487
I've taken that into consideration, but its like I said before, some of the the things she mentions were completely gone before I was even 18, and as far as I know didn't ever come back as a retro style or meme or whatever on the internet. Its not even that she just knows of their existence, but the way she mentions them just seems to give off a familiarity with it far beyond just seeing it on 4chan. Like the Nsync thing; it was a short 2-3 second singing of some lyrics. Zero people in the chat commented on it like they usually do when she makes an ancient reference and it seemed like to me you'd only know them that well if you'd heard it on the radio a million times back when it was popular.

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just giving my opinion. Why is everyone so insistent that she's not 30+? The only thing I've seen is living with her parents (plenty of NEETS do this far beyond 30) and Barbie horse adventures.

>>5266774
Google her real voice and dig. Maybe look for an anagram of HER name

>>5258899
I'm laughing that anyone took my ultra half-assed schizo rrat seriously
/S5147568#p5190804
You fuckers are this starved for drama lole

>>5270372
I knew you were joshin'. Sometimes it's fun to play along.

>>5259549
this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=asojeparbK0

>>5259206
>Risu isnt really close enough to challenge Gura
Chumbuds are actually that retarded

>>5259206
>no suzy mention
opinion discarded

>>5259584
>who’s jay???

They’re getting cucked so hard.

>>5227307
meowing

>>5245095
>bloomers
based taste