/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Good for him. Can't imagine it being an easy choice.

What kind of change are they looking for? As an outsider looking in, I think the biggest complaint is that management constantly fucks their projects up?

>>52195848
and they keep hiring ESL shitters
I think management is just retarded and doesn't know what they're doing

>>52195848
Probably better cuts, less numberfagging, more support for projects.

>>52195566
My money is on mystia and pomu after

>>52195566
Wasn’t Shu a nepo hire in the first place?

>>52195848
Other corpos offer better deals.
Niji has the brand name but their management and revenue cuts are pretty bad, specially if you compare them to some of the newer corpos.

>>52195848
Doesn't take a genius to figure it out after all the leaks. Nijisanji only cares about the top talents, their management is incompetent, and chuubas have to beg fans for money to afford food and medicine because of how shit the pay is.

>>52195566
>Shu
one less luxiem faggot the better, graduate Elira, Enna and their clique too when we are at it

>>52195848
more more yetch
more private plane

>>52196095
And then what? Rely on iLuna to carry the group? lol

>>52195848
3%

>Nina gone instead of Enna
>Shu gone instead of Luca or Kyo
The wrong people are leaving...

>>52195984
according to his stories, he tried out for Holo, and also Niji, and got to Niji by kinda accident, almost missed email asking him to come for next rounds. Of course, it's a case of wether you trust him or not, but if you do, then it doesn't sound like nepohire - he'd know that he passed for next rounds.

>>52195848
Management being fired and the branch absorbed into JP

Pomu just lost her manager and one of her closest friends in the company.
The cons are rapidly outweighing the pros.

>>52196289
what's with the manager leaving? I wasn't keeping tabs on that, and now I see it a lot on the board

>>52196095
Shu's one of the rare wholesome males in the branch, though, along with maybe Ike and Ren.

>>52196189
It's no secret at this point that Enna's clique has taken over the branch

>>52196189
The smarter chuubas are getting off the sinking ship.

>>52196432
I don't watch niji, what is this Enna's clique?

>>52196470
her, Kyo, and their baby

>>52195566
Why wasn't this posted before when it's supposedly from days ago?
Makes it look fake, and it's something easy to fake already.
Is there more than that?

>>52196386
Apparently theres a big shakeup with nijien management and slowly getting taken over by anykara chinese investor nepotism hires and the new contracts are rumored to be absolute shit

>>52196801
If it's just the 3 of them, how do they have so much power?

>>52196801
>>52196985
Elira and Millie are also in the clique. Sometimes there are others that get counted as well.

>>52196470
Enna's clique, or even cliques in Nijisanji EN were a running joke for a long time. I guess you can say they were used in cases when you wonder why some talents got shit and others got off scot free. You could point to those talents that that suffered zero punishments and just say "Oh, they're just part of the clique." as a bit of an off color joke.
The problem is that there ended up being some truth to it when Nina basically admitted to Alban during one of her podcasts that she was basically ghosted by the rest of her wave for months, which is probably why she hung around Luxiem for as long as she did. And while you could say she just wanted to make herself look better, the fact that Enna and her group basically pushed "NijiUK" which was basically Ethyria minus Nina, it's hard not to buy into that rrat.

>>52197489
Wow ghosting your own genmate is some petty high school shit

>>52196387
Shu will quit and apply for Tempus 3

>>52196470
nasty girl who formed a clique with the other whores and bully people like Nina and Selen

>>52197489

True and i find it funny how the rest of ethyria are crying now when then ghosted and ignored nina for months

>>52197489
No it was never a joke, the nepotism was obvious and who benefitted from it and who it centered around.

>>52196279
No, keep you ENshit SJW out of jp, we don't want them here

>>52198125
So if you're a niji, you get bullied by your coworkers and pressured by your managers while only getting 2%? What a hostile work environment, no wonder people are quitting.

>>52198159
What are some examples?

>>52198149
they dont actually care, they just want twitter likes, which kind of sums up nijiEN in general unfortunately

>>52197489
The existence of cliques and a pecking order in niji wasn't as much as a joke but a reality, it's just that poeople considered them mostly harmless until Nina revealed that she had been ostracized by the rest of Ethyria for refusing to play along Enna's kool kidz antics

>>52198159
>>52195984
>>52196269
It is an entertaining rrat but there is little logic to it. They are both connected to Elira, who was the supposed person that benefits from the nepohires. Because Enna and Millie are her long time friends. But consider that Elira isn't in NijiUK, and has no cliques associated with her. If the scales favor Enna, then why? It's not like she is constantly singing or makes the company half the money Vox did. She is nasty and has said things that would make companies not want to approach NijisanjiEN.
I think the truth is simply to management, Ethyria was an inbetween wave where their former most successful female talent, Selen, and their new golden geese, Luxiem aka first big corp vtuber guys, just overshadowed all the shit this wave did and went through. I can see Ethyria singling out Nina for being too extroverted.

>>52197967
Unfortunately with how the branch devolved with Ethyria and Luxiem, it's now par for the course with the company. It's also why the branch is genuinely unsalvageable at this point - even if management changes things up and promises to do better, it might not mean much when there's still toxic talents that try to enforce their will on others like a bunch of schoolyard bullies. Conversely, even if the bad talents leave (either by force or because they realized the mess left behind and want to leave with what little good graces they can), the remaining talents can only do so much to change things up because of incompetent/malicious management.
This isn't helped either by the fact that the branch's reputation is basically tarnished from what happened from 2022 to now. Yes people will still join black companies as shown with WACTOR, but now even if the facts aren't 100% true, the most people associate now with NijiEN are basically
>Toxic fandoms
>Toxic work environment
>2% (Even if its just for merch, to a speed reader or someone devoid of much context on Twitter it looks bad)
>Internal competition with new hire spam
And that may be its legacy until the day it dies.

>>52196470
Elira and her Hanamori clique (Enna, Millie, Shu, Uki...etc), it's funny that one of the leaker that cause this clusterfuck was Aruvn, a friend of them in Hanamori, I would said Nijisanji management is incompetent as fuck for not firing all of those Hanamori shitters. Pomu and Rosemi, despite to belief aren't Hanamori and they were acquaintance at best, unironically most of the drama free and best talents are all non-Hanamori, NijiEN can solve all of their problem if they fire all of those Hanamori shitter

>>52195984
Yeah Shu along with Millie and Pomu are the core clique members which branched out to Enna etc

>>52195984
So was Sana

>>52198691
>Pomu and Rosemi, despite to belief aren't Hanamori and they were acquaintance at best
Rosemi yeah but Pomu is part of Eliras inner circle

>>52198793
Not really, she is only friend with Elira and they aren't that close compared to the rest of Hanamori

>>52195848
They want at least 3%.

>>52198883
No she's close with Elira but her only saving grace is that she's not as retarded as the others in Eliras inner circle

>>52195848
Management should stop giving too much of a fuck about their numbers, and perhaps, at least 30-40% cuts on merch revenue like other big and small corpos

>>52196189
Yeah, that’s to be expected. The annoying ones that people hate would definitely not make it as indies. Their smartest move is to shit up the company so they can get their way and milk the sinking ship. For anyone who gives a shit, their smartest move is to leave because it’s still a sinking ship.
You’re not going to see the annoying ones with bad content leave voluntarily. NijiEN is the only reason they even get views on their streams.

>>52196977
the old contracts were absolute shit...

>>52198691
Rosemi is an objectively bad talent, and she is still followed by her "jumping ship" talent from when she debuted.
Pomu, on the other hand, probably has had the worst /here/ drama/leak of ANY vtuber, and it doesn't dominate discussions based around her because she is just that good of a talent and has that much goodwill from the people.
Rosemi has hinted at imposter syndrome, but never really went anywhere with it nor did she change what she said she wanted to change (how people view her as seiso) and it took her such a long time to open up to NijiEN that I feel like she is going to sink with the ship. Never mind that she has also hinted to saying the rat drama personally affected her.

Then that definitely means Elira is leaving too

>>52199267
Well guess what?
They got worse.

>>52195566
Shu and Mysterio jumping ship to Stars EN.

>>52199338
I don't see it. Elira basically has all that she wants, 3D, multiple outfits, concerts, and she has a lot of PL friends in the companies. The moment she leaves, its doubtful she'd get any of that again.

>>52199395
1%...

>>52199059
>Fuck off, I'm already the youngest billionaire in Japanese history. I need my 98% cut to make it to youngest trillionaire. I can just launch more waves.

>>52197489
>NijiUK
I thought they all live in NA though?

>>52199395
>They got worse.
What. Shouldn't they get better over time if anything? How do they expect the talents to stay if conditions are only getting worse? Or is this some indirect tactic to lay off older unfavorable talents for the sake of pulling in new ones for even worse conditions?

>>52199513
I respect him.

>>52199338
Lol lmao, she's the head of the clique

>>52196289
>one of her closest friends in the company
Okay Ninacuck, you would've said Pomu's channel was dying the other week but now you're pretending like you were always a fan lol

>>52199512
They're basically all NA, it just means "Unbelievably Kracked". Probably a dumb joke around the time they played an FPS like Valorant and sucked balls.

>>52197085
I like that elira pretends to be innocent, but is not.

>>52199318
>Rosemi is an objectively bad talent, and she is still followed by her "jumping ship" talent from when she debuted.
Bro
No one will EVER care about tsunderia.

>>52196044
Had they kept their reputation, they could technically have gotten away with it for new vtubers they bring in. But once the vtuber made it big, AnyColor like any other business should really have considered giving their biggest/experienced earners bigger cuts.

>>52199338
Elira, Enna and Millie are the three least likely to leave of the entire company. Her biggest simp leaving would not make her leave.
She leaves if Enna and Millie want to leave. That simple.

>>52199614
I apologise for your room temperature IQ, anon.
I wish you the best.

>>52195566
Use the sticky, retard

>>52199553
Not necessarily. Vshojo's contracts got worse, no reason why Niji's contracts can't get worse

>>52195848

Garbage events.

Garbage merch.

Shit cuts.

>>52199740
Tell that to Rosemi, she very much cares.
And that has nothing to do with her being a pretty meh talent. I can agree with you the Tsunderia shit is relatively harmless at a distance. That doesn't make Rosemi a better streamer.
Credit where it's due, her opening is a masterpiece. She has divulged liking very obscure memes and a lot of like, NicoNico humor. Too bad she lacks any herself.

>>52199553
Knowing NijiEN's nonstop drama, the talents complaining about how things are like behind the scenes, and the drama surrounding things like their 2% merch cut, its very likely that management is just egotistical/stupid at this point to where they probably feel like they don't need the old blood anymore. It's probably one of those situations in the entertainment industry mixed with Japan's autsitic honoru bullshit where the managers think THEY were the ones responsible for the talents growing. They probably don't want to keep any senior talents who suddenly want to be treated like the humans they are in the western world, they can just grab another poorfag like Kotoka off the Japanese slums or someone that barely speaks English like Meloco out of some JP university, give them the bare minimum and they'll still be happy and defend the company to their dying breath.

>>52195566

>>52198769
Rent free lmao

>>52200006
So many awful talent in NijiEN, yet you choose to shit on one of the few good/average ones.
I don't get it.
I would rather her be meh than Veibae tier of garbage

>>52201272
What is good/average about a girl that -
can't sing
can't draw
can't dance
isn't funny
has awful game choices
quits games/never plays any of the games she supposedly wants to (OoT/MM anyone)
went from shy retard to slightly less shy girl that likes yelling POG or whatever the guys/cool cliques like Elira's say

Help me understand.
>Good NijiEN talents
Pomu
Elira
Millie

>Average NijiEN Talents
Petra
Selen
Fulgur
Alban
Nina (had highs and lows)

>Bad NijiEN talents
the rest
If it is any consolation, Rosemi will never be as shit as people like Finana, Yugo, Reimu, Enna or Kyo

>>52201272
She doesn't even try anymore, last year we had a ton of karaokes and vr streams but now they've become few and far between and her creative streams like Space Cop and Detective Rosemi are long forgotten by her. Hell even her member streams have been all watchalongs lately with more on the way. I think not being able to go to Nijifes last year and then AR live this year killed her ambition for vtubing.

>>52201595
Petra is NijiJP at this point

>>52195848
>I think the biggest complaint is that management constantly fucks their projects up?
And that's a pretty good reason already
cause the talent cover the costs of their own projects
so if you paid multiple people to get everything ready for a cover
management could literally say "Oh yea you can't release this cover anymore"

most recent case I know was Selen's puyotetris tournament she commissioned a logo design both in EN and Kanji but had to give it up last minute cause management said she couldn't use it
So yea that's literally making talents waste money over and over

Treasure what
He doesnt stream

>>52202278
Let's not forget Selen almost not being able to do the costume design contest and when they did let her do it, they cut the deadline for artists in half.
I'm be really surprised if Selen doesn't leave asap unless they give her a really juicy contract.

>>52199318
>Pomu, on the other hand, probably has had the worst /here/ drama/leak of ANY vtuber, and it doesn't dominate discussions based around her because she is just that good of a talent and has that much goodwill from the people.

Can I get the scoop on this? Or is this about how her and Luca?

>>52195848
It's almost like when you have quantity over quality, quality suffers.
Also, hope you watched the new cannon fodder that debuted this week that is going to replace the cannon fodder that got exhausted.

>>52202544
archives, faggot.
i'll give you a hint: it's been about a year since it happened

>>52201595
where is sonny

>>52202544
Imagine being this new. The catalog was full of it for at least a month.

>>52202544
it was her underage nudes

>>52198793
If you knew anything about Pomu or Elira, you'd realize they are good friends in terms of streaming/vtubing acquaintances, but Elira's ACTUAL friends, as in people she sees/talks to every day are Shu, Uki, Enna, and Millie

Outer ring orbiters are Pomu, Kyo, Rosemi and Petra

Valence Shell orbiters are Vox, Fulgur, Finana, and some of the indie scene

>>52202544
bullshit, it wasn't her.

>>52195566
>Edited discord SS with name blurred out
>0 source or even a good rrat to reference
Might as well give me the Warren Report through a grainy radio with an amnesiac broadcasting

>>52196432
>Enna's clique
Elira's Clique dipshit, she was the one who got everyone in

>>52196977
>lose your manager
>odds are they get replaced by some chinese dude with a heavy accent
I'd be on my way to some other corp for sure.

>>52197489
She wasn't ghosted, they just couldn't relate to her. The other three members were friends in their PL (and Petra), so she was the odd man out. They ended up bonding, especially at conventions.

You'd know that if you watched Nina.

>>52202688
>>52202729
Nigga what am I even supposed to look for
>>52202774
Doubt

>>52203341
Truth is often stranger than fiction

>>52203341
You don't look for it unless you want the feds after your ass

>>52203341
>Doubt
They were from 2008, where she was around 15-17 according to the most accurate doxes.

>>52203157
elira is the main shared friend but she isnt the ring leader of the clique, enna seems to taken that role.
its not wise to refer to a clique anything other than whose the leader of it or if they have a common thing among them, since it puts blame on the wrong person instead of the one whose using their influence to fuck shit up.
>>52203341
its real, if her age range wasnt in doubt you probably would have seen it by now as its rich shitpost material, but no one wants to deal with the consequences of shitposting with it directly.

>>52201595
>puts Millie in good after correctly identifying her genmates as trash
She's possibly worse than Enna, I rate this bait an 8.

>>52195566
Hololive tech issues in shambles
Niji thriving
Thank you Shu

>>52204802
Millie is funny, doesn't have to be mean to be funny, can sing, tries her best and was inspired by Rosemi in her LA CREATIVIDAD days near her debut and Pomu
The one downside is her being near-autistically socially retarded and the secret gc stream

>>52196044
no the revenue cuts are all good except for merchandise. voice packs are 50%, sc are 30% and stremlabs higher than that. we dont know how much sponsorship and convention or anything else works. Only the merch deal is small
>>52199059
this will never happen, at least for the overall branch. this is a company so they will always care about numbers

>>52195848
don't forget zaion being plopped with a manager who had had the job for two weeks - way less time than she herself had been in the company. that is fucking clownworld shit, a bad joke, something people would have said was a shit dumb rrat too dumb to be true if zaion herself didn't state it.

then management freaked the fuck out when she dared as for help on shit from someone with more experience/knowledge.

>>52205523
kys Millie, you are and always will be a dogshit person

>>52199318
It doesn’t dominate discussions because you could go to prison for sharing that shit.

>>52206261
>no argument
Concession accepted.

>>52205523
Millie isn't funny, is just as bitchy as Enna, can't sing, and trying is the bare fucking minimum so okay 1/10 its the best I can do.

>>52206399
That wasn't me but since you asked so nicely I responded with the same level of argument you did.

>>52206270
>doesn't know a discussion can be held without pictures
lol

>>52198648
The worst thing of all is that they can't just call it quits and pull the plug like they did with NijiIN, ID and KR, it would trigger an even bigger shitstorm on them because this branch has a more significant JP and chink fandom than what they usually deal with all three of those branches, That bitch Enna specifically, the chinks fucking love her, same with Elira and Pomu but with the japanese.

>>52199338
I doubt it. People see a company running poorly enough where the people already struggling get washed out and extrapolate that everyone must be in the shit, but Elira is one of the talents that are high and dry here. Her content is inoffensive, she's angling her character as an older sister instead of GFE, she probably doesn't even understand why people are leaving because things are going well for her. The money cut probably isn't even a big deal because she's one of the popular ENs. The people who get in trouble and drama are the ones you should look out for.

>>52200993
This dudes so cooked unless there's some serious behind the scenes dealings.

>>52195566
management told shu he couldn't keep impregnating livers during off-collabs, so he's off to find fresh wombs

>>52195848
niji and nijiEN is worse than machinima in its end, livers jumping ship

>>52196095
well then we just wouldn't have a nijiEN, so i hope they do it

>>52210108
Yeah mine

>>52202700
working a double shift at the tim hortons in denver

>>52201595
>Millie
Way to instantly discredit yourself, retard. Keep my adorable rosedaughter out of your filthy mouth. You're probably that autist that started all the bait threads about her a few months ago

>>52210211
Nah this is a huge overreaction. Kurosanji is dogshit but mashitima was legitimately evil and gave you almost zero benefit.
At least kurosanji livers can get artfags to slobber over their models.

>>52195848
2% Profit split ought to be on the top of the list

>>52195566
Shu would fit better in Stars EN3 anyway
>But his low numbers!!!
If it gets rid of the crazy chink fanbase then so be it

>>52195566
aw

>>52215830
unironically he's the most male idol-like person in the company
>likes to sing
>can naturally go JP
>hates to curse or make any sex related joke
if you've watched him long enough, he's the equivalent of male Ina, except he's not as faggy as altare

>>52201595
At least Yugo can sing

Shu was cool
I liked his Master Duel streams
If they get rid of Rosemi too, they'll be getting rid of the only 3 nijis I ever watched.

>>52200993
>I'm on a "break"
So he was suspended

>>52211956
She's a lazy whore and nothing you do or say will change that reality.

>>52195848
Definitely projects related. Mysta bought a house in the UK less than a year in Luxiem, and i'm pretty sure he was on unemployment benefits before it. Even Finana flies first class all the time. These guys make bank despite barely getting any cut from merch sales.

>>52195848
They expect them to get to the moon while giving them nothing but sticks and rocks

>>52195566
>pushing management for change
will Riku budge and increase their rate to 4%

>>52202508
She also had to pay for the prizes out of her own pocket since she was given no budget for the prize money.

>>52228883
"I can't stop streaming or I won't afford my rent"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRsF4GiOaU&t=13930
Implying she's close to homelessness and scares her chat
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRsF4GiOaU&t=17994
Enna can't afford a car.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gBjiMSkZlM&t=16620
Enna "toughs out the cold" in the winter because the heater is too expensive
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZMc5hq3KU&t=1016
"My phone is old and I have very little data"
>https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1618098563636133890
"I'm trying to save up money"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=15568
Can't fix the dryer because "I'm on a budget this month"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=15615
Can't afford to buy this food because "I'm trying to save money"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=16040

>>52233158
>Believing Enna
>Ever
Hoooooly jesus

>>52232943
Maybe 2.5, but only for Vox

>>52233158
Do you believe her too when she said she's a virgin for the thousandth time?

>>52233158
>Believing the whore

>>52233158
poorbaiting is normal for her

>>52233158
>I'm pooooor
>Went on month long vacation
Sure

>>52233158
you dumb fuck, despite /vt/ having a hate boner for her, she's literally in the upper tier of nijien girl streamers.

>>52233158
Only aloucuck will believe in any of this lol

>>52211956
>rosecuck shitting on other liver
the reason why her sub never increase because she's shit

So how did the whole clique thing first came to light? How do we know about it? Did someone talk from the inside?

>>52234146
someone who had a lot of knowledge was constantly leaking that under the hood, nijimanagement is melting down and Shu apparently, the most chill guy of all the luxiem, was the only one that had balls to go head to head against their stupid management which caused all sort of bad blood to erupt between the talents and their management.

Shu is part of the Elira clique which is part of a larger Hanamori clique.
And Shu is literally the most yab free of all the NijiEN.

>>52228883
Remember in a stream mysta revealed he was being fined for late payment of his taxes. From that alone you could figure out how much money he was making.

>>52199059
>Management should stop giving too much of a fuck about their numbers, and perhaps, at least 30-40% cuts on merch revenue like other big and small corpos
Not in China.
It's horrible how little Chinese streamers make. How do big corpos keep low-wage employees? They recycle them. Acceleration was intended for that from the start.

>>52234146
Iirc selen talk about how they make a seperate discord than the official one and exclude her during iluna or exsoliel, nina is another different story

>>52234500
>Chinese streamers
Lol do they have a human right?

>>52234569
Ethyria also has their own discord channel, this clique shit is just schizo fanfiction

>>52234569
Damn, Selen is excluded? Surprising given how popular she is

>>52233158
Meanwhile Aster says he makes enough for rent, food, recouped the cost of his debut, has enough to work on multiple projects, and recently bought a new table and webcam setup.

>>52234708
if you exclude the people more popular than you then you can always be the most popular in the group

>>52195566
If it's shu will funny and ironic cuz the discord leaks

>>52234357
>nijimanagement is melting down and Shu apparently, the most chill guy of all the luxiem, was the only one that had balls to go head to head against their stupid management
Potentially soft-confirmed by Reimu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkbrEopGt3A&pp=ygUPcmVpbXUgc2h1IGFuZ3J5

It's definitely notable that it was Shu of all people, since he's one of, if not the most, docile members of NijiEN.