/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52179171
Contracts are ending, they can finally be free.

>>52179171
Incredibly sad, but honestly I'm surprised more haven't graduated yet. NijiEN management seems to just be absolutely abhorrent

>>52179171
As a diehard holofan, Wtf is happening in niji??

>>52179171
it will be Vox and Ren for sure.

>>52179171
>Millie the clique leader graduating
haha

>>52179368
The 1% strikes back

>>52179368
You know the hole "NijiEN is sinking, their reputation is in shambles etc. blabla" stuff tribalchads post all day?
The NijiEN members know it's true. Not even joking btw, 2 have outright referenced it and now Nina graduates for "creative differences" type of bullshit reasons.

>>52179171
https://twitter.com/NinaKosaka/status/1673344678534455298?s=20
>actually real on friday
wtf? israel?

>>52179368
Management is really bad and is making them miserable.

>Look at Aloe/Zaion/Yugo #
Yeah it's better to become indie than in niji

>>52179368
Haven't you been following for the last ... 10 months?

>>52179810
>Aloe
Anon?

I KNOW YOU'RE HERE SELEN. YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE CLIQUE EITHER. JUMP SHIP AS WELL AND JOIN HOLOEN

>>52179864
>Haven't you been following for the last ... 10 months?

>hololive news
yes

>nijisanji news
no

>>52179171
I wish Pomu left because she deserves better. Everyone else can stay for all I care and sink with the ship

>>52179171
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1673210745679478784
Ethyria...

>>52179345
>Anykara management seems to just be absolutely abhorrent
it keeps happening ID, KR, EN hell JP (Gundou) just face it, Niji is rotten to the core

>>52179970
There have apparently been some big internal problems for a while that became public when Yugo got fired, and only got worse from there. That concert that got cancelled might actually have been done as a punishment or some shit. It's kinda fucked up. And that's just the EN branch.

>>52179171
can i get a qrd on why nijisanji is crumbling to dust?

>>5218016
Pomu could have very effortlessly left and retained the vast majority of her audience. She definitely deserves better, but I refuse to support her as long as she's in Niji. Considering what Nina's been through I'm happy for her that she's escaping

>>52180398
kek

I hope it’s pomu she deserves to be in a better company more than anyone else

>>52179368
Anycolor is a company that exists solely to ride on the wave of vtubers. Riku, it's CEO, has said as much. So the company doesn't give a fuck about their product. It's why they debut new livers within weeks of each other, completely fucking over growth. Cause who gives a shit? This is not about the livers for them. It's about the CEOs and investors paycheck. This means management is shit and barebones, some managers being only weeks onto the job before being assigned to talent. Managements sole reason for existing is to protect the company and the only real support is provided to the most famous talents. You can't run what is essentially a talent agency like that. Yes, some priority is given to the most successful talents in other talent agencies, but the lesser talents aren't basically ignored either. Anycolor has always been a black company, with bullies and shit management. They just fired someone over a very fuckin mild baseball joke. There's no support in that company.

>>52180629
damn, feels bad for the livers getting their concert cancelled, Thanks for the info anon.

I don't really watch niji, what is Enna's clique and why is it a big deal?

>>52180762
Black company getting its comeuppance.

Pomu please get out... at the very least, please share your bank account so I could directly inject money into it

>>52180911
Holy, I've heard that their management was bad but I wasn't expecting it to be THIS bad.
I kinda get how some of them would part ways with the company then, thanks anon.

>>52180629
>Enna got their concert shitcanned because she wanted to do a 4chan larp instead of some harmless shit Millie wanted

>>52179368
Anycolor's only color is actually black.

Didn't Petra move all the way to Japan to work for them? She's not leaving.

>>52179171
>The leaker has not yet found
>Leaked yet another very sensitive info that is only known to fellow livers and a number of people in the company
Incredible work cheapskatesanji, how the fuck are they this fucking slow at catching rats

>>52181459
Didn't she move for some university stuff?

>>52181334

>>52180911
>It's about the CEOs and investors paycheck
Looks like it was worth it(for some)

>>52179368
Niji has been speedrunning its reputation and internal systems into the ground, and the likes of Nina's sharp enough to see it and jump ship whilst everything still nice looking on the surface.

>>52179368
>Sana leaves hololive
>holofags: .....
>Nina leaves nijisanji
>holofags: wtf is happening?!?!?

>>52179392
Ren...be free...reunite with the owl...

>>52179171
I can't even shitpost, I'm genuinely surprised how a rrat this big has leaked.

>>52179914
The vt version of "nothing to report" from Fire Emblem Three Houses.

Keep up, Selenanon.

Sincerely, holomain, SEABeat.

>>52179533
I don't really give a shit about kurosanji, but Nina is really cute hag and one of few good nijis. I hope she reincarnates

>>52182038
One person leaving with little to no controversy is not the same as multiple people leaving and the OP literally saying they're treating the talent like garbage.
I bet you compare apples to cheese too.

>>52179810
>Aloe
She's hololive dude but she is an indie. cough triangle.

>>52179171
I find it funny how Pomu is the most requested graduation yet everyone other than her is leaving.

>>52180762
Shift in the company direction from having loose management that helps out with vtuber stuff to having strict management that rules with an iron fist and pisses everyone off. Then a snowball effect of people getting mad and leaving/getting fired, lowering morale, leading to more internal drama and more departures.

>>52180167
You probably do not watch Pomu either so be quiet.

>>52179171
Rosemi you could play Tekken (on Tuesdays) with Coyote and you wouldn't even need to ask for permissions.

>>52182825
I guess the senpai bullshit works, imagine Mito or Sora graduating (imagine it more as a company pr manager, since unlike these two, Pomu is less beloved)

>>52179171
Seem like the leaker are from the new nijiwave

>>52182545

Sana was kicked and Ina was suicidal after that fucked up her life for all these months since she was the one who got her in.

Holofags believing cuckcorp are saints

>>52182038
Sana not being offered a contract renewal due to not providing the content staff expected doesn't has the same ring to it as multiple terminations and grduations in a short period of time.
I haven't run the actual numbers, but it feels like Nijisanji has had more graduations this year than Hololive has had in total.

>>52181234
Huh, it was enna idea? I thought it was millie for sure.

>>52183197
>source: I made it the fuck up

>>52182038
What are you talking about? Several months of "rrats" that "schizos" (logical people) came up with revolving around Sana were all about how much of a lazy lying bitch she was and how she clearly couldn't handle her job being an underprepared nepo hire. Sanas graduation is entirely her own fault and decision and there's no evidence at all that cover in any way mistreated her or the other members. There was something to be said about Coco but Sana was 100% her own thing. Meanwhile Niji...

>>52182158
Ren unironically deserves better than Kurosanji. I would say the same for Vox if only he grew a spine already and start holding true to the "no horny" post nut clarity he has every RP ASMR stream

>>52183197
I love spreading misinformation

>>52183628
>Nepohire
You all keep saying that, but it makes zero sense if you look at everything surrounding it. Ina was the lowest earning girl in the whole company and the time even lower than 8 hours a month Ayame, she did not have the clout to get a nepohire. It had to be staff trying to get another art streamer and Ina's connection was just serendipity.

>>52179914
Even at the moment where their enemies is making a mistake, the holobeggar couldn't help but beg.

Anya and Moona awaits for them in Holo

>>52183663
Ahhh, for once, a (You) that isnt seething, threatening or sisterposting. Yeah, heard Ren was one of the better boys of /nenmen/

>>52182038
>Zaion
Also Sana was a lazy git

>>52183841
Holo won't hire them, luna is her own blessing since holo was a 3rd corpo at that time.

>>52183197
deflect harder with your headcanon, we'll see you at the next Nijisanji graduation/termination/suspension.

>>52183859
We don't want them.

>>52179171
Mysta...

I want the best for Pomu but I'm scared she will just disappear if she graduates
fuck this shit company man

>>52183841
Nijisanji doesn't appreciate Selen. Let her be where she can actually grow and be given opportunities to grow.

>>52179171
Can't they just do what JP does and tell management to fuck off?

>>52179171
you gotta feel bad for these people
they didn't all try to ruin vtubing

>>52184118
She likes to collab with men though? Why would holofags want her?

>>52184161
Then they end up like Gundou...

One star at best for me whenever this is one half of a stage

>>52182949
Sure lol

>>52183835
Ina was the only one with a mod in her chat when mods are banned by Hololive. She was friends with management too.

>>52184252
So does Suisei. What's your point? Brackukara is only wasting her talent and drive. I want her to shine.

niji wants to focus on making music, so they probably will try to keep the rest of ethyria. petra is already used to deal with management whims. maybe selen or rosemi or one of the boys

>>52184118
lol that salty fatty melty selen wouldn't fit there

Please graduate next Selen...

>>52184118
Yeah, let her grow in VShoujo

>>52179171
>"""leaker"""
If this is a leaker worth any salt then they would've known the names of who'd graduate and not beat around the bush

>>52184520
>already best buddies with two Tempus boys
>connected with Mumei and Ame
>almost seamless transfer in terms of the content she currently engages in and what she will be allowed to play in Hololive
I think she'll easily Luna into Hololive.

>>52182825

Despite all NijiEN problems Pomu is stil getting good numbers. She's only going to leave when she gets a spot guaranteeing better numbers like HoloEN or Vshojo.

>>52184714
maybe they just don't want to pull too much attention, to avoid getting caught

>>52184252
HoloJP keep playing with apex males too.

>I wanna at least finish Metal Gear 3
Pomu...

>>52184887
That's just Towa

>>52184440
>Mods were banned by Hololive
Factually false tho. Every member of EN had mod powers at debut for En2.

so can someone leak the AR live concert

>>52179171
>Tranniecolor EN branch falling apart
I'm surprised it took this long
It's almost impossible to comeback from something like this
NijiEN is as good as dead

>>52184118
Selen is the biggest AnyColor bootlicker in the corp, next to Pomu. These bitches could get riped with a 30inch spiked dildo by Riku himself and would still stay thank you.
If they're miserable, they deserve it.

>>52184958

All apex playing holos do it.

>>52184961
A whole year later after policy changes and shit happening in chat.

>>52184091
Or Vox. They've been the most vocal about their staff hate, but Vox is more /here/. The only Nijimales more /here/ than him are Fulgur and Kyo.

>>52184714
The leaker (bottom) got the exact day of graduation right. He's then just expecting more graduations will come, which I think everyone pretty much expects the same, but nobody else has outwardly made a decision yet at this point.

>>52185023
They are the biggest niji girls. They were literally nobodies before joining.

>>52184118
She can't grow if she's an indie

>>52185048
No. There, at debut during the life stream the rest of HoloEn had the wrench icon you you fucking tourist.

>>52185167

Twitch has a bunch of 4k indies.

>the one closest with pomu is graduating
holy fuck i wonder how she feels about it

>>52182038
>Sana joins hololive
>holofags: ....
>Sana streams in hololive
>holofags: ...
>Sana leaves hololive
>holofags: .....
ftfy

The leaker is Zaion
t.Zaion

>>52185199
They're clearly talking about third party mods not genmates

>>52179171
This is gonna be a blast to see...

>>52185126
>They are the biggest niji girls.
These days that's Enna. By significant margin. Remember, chink pandering trumps everything else.

>>52182038
>but hololive
lmao

>>52185325
Who the fuck is this faggot

>>52185325
Unrelated, you could have an anime avatar and the words nijisanji in your username and I would believe they were a niji.

Who the fuck is that nigga?

>>52179368
The final yab.

>>52179171
BVTM you useless fucking SEAmonkey, stop damage controlling Pippashit and post about this leak yab.

>>52184252
you got town bikes like bae and kronii who still have a following. Selen would do fine.

>>52182038
Hey BVTM have fun slurping Cumelot's semen.

>>52185325
His Twitter engagement is like a week's worth of combined CCV.

send rosemi over here too

>Lazulight
Elira should graduate but will likely stay.
Finana deserves to stay.
Pomu is their shining star. She should leave and deserves the biggest spotlight in all EN.
>Obsydia
They all deserve to stay. Shit wave. Maybe Selen should leave if she stops being menhera and getting suicidal over fucking Apex.
>Ethyria
Enna and Reimu should stay. I wish Millie had the resolve to leave but won't until Elira and Enna do.

>>52186037
>Finana deserves to stay
Fuck off you Ryucuck if anyone deserves to get fired its her

>>52186402
No, she should stay.
Nijisanji deserves her.

>>52186402
The ones that should stay are the bad ones, you fucking retard. They deserve the 2% and tyrannical management.

>>52179171
please not my babies, at least not petra

>>52179395
Thats enna, millie is too irrelevant here

>>52180911
Gundou was controversial for a long time. It is more about the straw that broke the camels back with her.

>>52181991
Trust fund babies should be suffocated in the crib.

>>52185591
Wasn't that Kizuna Ai being cucked by Kaguya Luna?

>>52182038

Sana left on good terms and mostly so she can keep working with CN gacha companies.

>>52186868
That was a baseless rrat that went nowhere.

>>52179903
deludelufelu

>>52183835
>Ina talks to Sana and convinces her to apply
>Ina talks to management to vouch for Sana
Boom, nepohire. Sana wasn’t the only EN2 nepohire but certainly the most infamous.

>>52185261
Her manager just quit too.
At this point, I think Pomu should just throw in the towel.
I know she loves Nijisanji but sometimes when someone shows you who they really are, you need to believe them the first time.

>>52186402
NijiEN cannot be saved, the rot goes too deep. You’d need to fire more than you’d keep.
Best to keep the really bad ones quarantined in NijiEN at this point.

>>52182038
Sana was fired but Cover shills were mostly able to convince hololive fans that she wanted to leave. Nina probably did choose to leave Nijisanji since there was little benefit in staying. There will be more livers that gradually decide to go indie.

>>52187388
The fish rots from the head down
It probably goes deeper than just NijiEN
NijiKR was a colossal disaster and imploded
NijiID is basically dead unofficially
NijiEN are having constant yabs and horrid numbers now
And NijiJP was a fucking black company until they 'changed'

Maybe all the girls will leave and they'll turn NijiEN into an all male branch fully dedicated to pandering to Chinese femcel unicorns in a desperate bid to regain the numbers from Luxiem's glory days.

>>52187676
I feel that NijiJP is different. Sure 2%, but you get a lot more chances to shill for companies, get 3D, concerts.
If HoloEN was as speedy as a snail giving talents 3Ds and involving them in shit like Holofes, then NijiEN is like a corpse with cement shoes at the bottom of the ocean.

>>52187701
I'm trying to calculate in my mind just how gay they would have to be for that to work. I don't think that that level of faggotry is even possible. I would like to see Vox condemned to a career of daily rape ASMRs though. It's like a punishment straight out of mythology.

>>52188058
You have to also remember that JP in general is very good at just "sucking it up and carrying on"
You're rarely going to have someone outright say "this is fucking wank".
There's also Luna getting bullied out of the company, the whole Roa shit, accidentally killing off Lulu from the company, the 2% shit, Gibara graduating to become an idol (only to become a vtuber again), the baseball yab, etc.
These are only the ones we know about. There's probably way more.

>>52179171
What did Petra and Millie do?
I also don't see Niji firing Millie. If she goes, you'll also lose Enna for sure and possible Elira.
And if Millie, Enna, and Elira go, then moral would be an all time low and I would see more people leaving who are already on the fence, like Pomu and Selen.

Leaker said it was Shu but more people are considering it if management doesn't fucking change

>>52188058
>>52188442
>>52188058
>>52188442
I feel like I should remind you of how Niji fucked Kai over, leading to his graduation.

Dude had insomnia and stress problems which his manager encouraged him to deal with, took time off with the promise that his projects and plans, which included sponsored streams and 3D streams, would still be on the table after he came back.

Of course, when he did, management had axed it all, refused to re-approve anything, and asked him to continue as if it was business as usual. Granted, we only have his word for it and he seems bitter as fuck, but considering what Yugo and Zaion said, it lines up with what we know of Niji's management.

>>52183197
Didn't sana want to become a VA/Game dev?

>>52179171
Use the sticky, retards

>>52189020
I followed mayuzumi's saga of literally nonstop streams during his graduation month and he said nothing of the sort (only vague "creative differences" stuff per his yukkuri video). Or is this something he said as Yamien?

>>52189020
And that's exactly my point.
Sometimes things really are a coincidence, but when the pattern keeps repeating itself, how much longer can people keep pretending the emperor has clothes on?
We already have redditors saying Nijisanji is fine and Nina graduating is not a bad sign. At this point, nothing is going to change their mind.

>>52183099
The original leaker is the one that planned to be in the new wave and that wave expected to be 4 man debut, not 3.

He's also the same one who leaked about 1-2% merch cut thing.

>>52189742
Nijisanji, or Anycolor indeed will be fine. They can weather this. That's how size gave you advantage. When one calls quit, others will go in.

They won't even be at risk of not having any talents signing-up too. They are still basically the top choice if anyone wants to have a stable vtuber job. Everyone else are second choices, maybe except for Holo but Holo recruitments are basically once-in-a-blue-moon thing. Easier to get into Harvard compared to be Hololive girl

>>52184118
She will graduated and redebut her new vtuber avatar under RPR's streamer group.

I'll take Petra rosemi Selen and Pomu. Everyone else can fuck off. Come home to daddy yagoo.

>>52190612
The only reason to want Petra is to see how that weird Petra Anya general reacts.

>>52185199
>cannot understand context
retarded esl go away

>>52179368
Black company.

>>52189616
Do you believe everything about niji write on here, especially the japanese one lmao

>>52187553
>Sana was fired
Nice headcanon fag. Only because your oshi works for a black company, doesn't every company is

>>52187553
>Sana was fired

Oh, hey there, tourist

>>52183197
source:

>>52189379
Sana was already a gacha game artist long before becoming a Holo

i dont understand the "petra, millie.." in there. Its shu

>>52180911

Trust-fund babby Riku, the CEO of AnyColor, admits to being a short-term gain oriented trend-hopper. He had four failed business ventures and by his own admission he only released Nijisanji to "ride the wave" of VTubers and "get immediate results". He does not care about Nijisanji because he will simply "move on to the next thing" if it doesn't work out. The IPO is him cashing out his stocks.
https://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/971

> 今でこそ注目される田角さんだが、大失敗も経験している。2017年、別の動画サービスを仲間と立ち上げたが、投資元が見つからず事業を畳んでいる
Although Mr. Tazumi is now in the spotlight, he has also experienced major failures: In 2017, he launched another video service with a few colleagues, but the business folded when they could not find an investment source.
> バーチャルYouTuberの事業をはじめる以前に、4つの事業を立ち上げたのですが、失敗しました。出資を受けることができず、2人いた仲間も辞めて、自分だけが残って。
"Before starting the virtual YouTuber business, I had started four businesses, but they failed. I couldn't get investment, two of my colleagues quit, and I was the only one left."

> ただ、もともとの性格でいえば、ダラダラしがちで。だからこそ、逆に短期集中で一気にやっちゃいたいんですよね。
It's just that my personality is the "lazy" type. So I prefer to do things in short, concentrated bursts.
> さすがに人生の全部を集中するなんて無理なので、「やる時」と「やらない時」をきっぱり分けるようにしています。
Obviously it's impossible to concentrate on everything in life all at once, so I try to make a clear distinction between "when to do" and "when not to do".
> バーチャルYouTuber市場は立ち上がったばかりの市場。集中して取り組みたいですね。
The virtual YouTuber market is a market that has just started. I want to concentrate on it.
> 「すぐに結果が出る、短期勝負がしたい」
Title : I want to play the game in a way that I get immediate results.
> じつは、バーチャルYouTuberで勝負をしたのも、短期集中に向いている事業だと思ったから
In reality, we went with virtual YouTubers because we thought it was a business suited for short-term focus.

> 日本でもフィッシャーズの「笑ってはいけないアニ文字がツボに入ってしまった。」という動画が少しずつバズりはじめていて。マーケットもありそうだし、animoji×生配信をテーマにしようと考えていきました。
In Japan, the video series from "The Fishers'" called "YLYL : Animated emoji." got viral, and there seemed to be a market for it (This thing : [YouTube] 笑ってはいけないアニ文字がツボに入ってしまった。 (embed)) [Open].
> 流行りはじめていたanimojiとライブ配信、この掛け合わせに集中をすれば、自分でも勝負ができると思ったんです。
I thought that if I concentrated on the combination of animoji and live streaming - which was starting to become popular - I could compete in this field.
> その頃、バーチャルYouTuber『キズナアイ』が100万登録突破し、めちゃくちゃ盛り上がってきていて。女性YouTuberの中でも上位にランクインしてきて。
Around that time, VTuber "Kizuna Ai" had just surpassed 1M subs and was getting very popular. She was ranked high among female YouTubers.

> バーチャルYouTuberがくることは間違いなかった。その波に乗っかろうと「にじさんじ」をリリースしました。
There was no doubt that virtual YouTubers were coming. I released "Nijisanji" to ride that wave.
> この先、バーチャルYouTuberもいつまで伸び続けるかわからないですよね
In the future, we don't really know how long virtual YouTubers will continue to grow.
> ただ、それでいいと思ってるんです。次に「来る」と思った領域があったら、そこにどんどん張っていく。
However, I think that's fine. If I see a field that I think will be the next viral thing, I'll just expand into it.
> なんせ僕は短期集中タイプなので(笑)
After all, I am a short-term-focus type of person (lol).

>>52181458
They know who the leaker is. They just can't do anything about her because she's part of the clique and firing her would cause everyone else in the clique to quit.

>>52184101
Doubt it, she quit her office job once her vtubing took off and I doubt she'd be keen in wage slaving again unless she had a REALLY bad experience. Most likely she'd only leave if she got a (good) contract with another agency.

>>52179171
She's next.

>>52194017
I heard hololive has a pretty good contract...

>>52194113
Nah, none of the first wave girls will graduate. If they planned to they would've been gone already. All 3 of them are retards and signed another 2 year contract. Nina dipped the moment she could and I bet we will see a lot more of them

>>52194455
Considering what the leaker said, we are guaranteed to get more.

>>52179810
how's yugo doin?
what's previous/current number?

>>52179171
NijiSpy I love you btw!

>>52184440
Do not go into Kronii's stream if you believe this

>>52194455
>All 3 of them are retards and signed another 2 year contract.
it's not like a 2 year contract actually means anything though, they could just decide to stop streaming and what's niji gonna do? suspend them? it's not like they'd be streaming anyway. graduate them? now they're clear of the contract with no obligations. with niji the only difference between graduation and termination is getting to choose the date meaning that fans have a better chance of archiving your stuff because it'll get deleted as soon as your gone either way

>>52179368
The livers all browse /here, not even joking. They see every rrat and it gets to them emotionally, Nina in particular has been known to egosa the thread during streams and let it get under her skin midstream. Everything that is happening with Anycolor is compounded by the fact they come here and get stressed by everything.

>>52183249
She was presented a new contract with conditions, but she wouldn't agree to them.

>>52179368
>management
>clique
>Luxiem secondaries
Everything after Lazusydia was a mistake.

>>52194842
That was when they debuted. Other holos had mods sometimes but it was usually dedicated translators. Kronii just has an overall terrible fanbase.

>>52182038
>Intentionally ignores the endless torrent of Niji yabs and sneakily tries to make this solely about graduations

Torture Nijiniggers in hell eternally

>>52194113
>EN3 will consist of five former Nijis that wawa successfully poached

>>52193939
The worst part is that even in spite of this with NijiEN literally crumbling in front of everyone’s eyes, the fans still won’t believe it. I didn’t want to believe either with Yumenographia but the constant photos of EN cheaping out at concerts without even giving chairs, ID being folded back into the JP branch with KR, and the nonstop drama surrounding EN, it’s hard not to give up.

>>52179395
That's Enna, Millie is just too dumb and innocent for her own good

>>52195808
Will Wawa have a foursome with Nina, Pomu and Petra?

>>52195808
Would coom to the Wawa 5 times in a row if true.

>>52183197

>>52195898
>Yumenographia
To be fair that one was only canned because management using that service after hours and off duty

>>52182038
/vt/ is the only board dumb enough to fall for bait as lazy as this

>>52186770
Everyone says this, nobody ever posts what she actually did besides the baseball question

>>52195808
I will jerk off exclusively to Wawa for a year if that's true.

>>52183353
It was Millie's idea but then Enna ruined it

>>52179171
what are the chances of the leaker being Mysta

>>52185126
They're the biggest nijien girls, and yet look how they're treated. If they can't gather up the self-respect and recognize there are better places to work, then they deserve everything they get.

>>52196352
She is on the top nijiJP hate list since forever, you don't know it if you don't know japanese tho, that's why i had a good laugh when eops think her graduation will do anything to niji, the fans over there was cheering when she get canned

>>52179368
They're accelerating

>>52193939
Based

>>52196656
>doesn't post a single sin
Gotcha, it was over baseball.

>>52179810
Zaion's numbers died

>>52197094
he's probably gonna use that blue whale copycat thing which was a rumor started by a gundou anti

>>52179171
qrd why is nina leaving niji?
is the gig not that profitable anymore?
I was under the impression that this bitch is a money grabbing whore and would leech off off anyone with profitable numbers.

>>52197659
Why stay in a company that steals 98% of your revenue while you are treated like a subhuman if you aren't part of the clique

>>52197659
tired of getting harassed by the sisters and being used as canon fodder whenever the males have drama
also probably tired of her co-workers being cunts

>>52197659
Staying loyal to a job in the 21st century is a sucker's move. If the money is better somewhere else and you think it'll help your growth in the long term, you should take it. That goes for anyone.

>>52197733
only merch is like that anon, why the fuck do you people think they dont receive anything

>>52197909
also that 98% is actually generous since without the company they are nobodies

>>52198154
I don't know what you're trying to say but you out of your frigging mind?
a vtuber without the person behind is literally just an empty cardboard cutout, some might have won the design lottery but i'd argue majority of the people buying the vtuber merch bought it specifically to support the "character", the combination of the "avatar and persona" behind.
and the person playing the character behind only getting a ridiculous 3% cut from fucking anything that has to do with the vtuber model is just fucking absurd since they're the one who animate that character else why hire them in the first place.

>>52179368
The same that is going to happens to Holostars EN in the future

>>52197659

>>52180762
Actual answer? The EN management is basically one guy who is in JP. He is hell bent on hammering any nails in Niji EN into place. If there is someone who sticks out, he will beat them down until they comply. If you've ever worked for a JP company you will know they are full of senior line managers like this.
This senior manager has a few talents who are sucking up to him in order to avoid his wrath. You'll see this in a workplace like this often as well.
This clique sides with this senior manager against problem talents and under the pressure of this 360 degree attack most talents will just buckle and leave.
Bad work place atmosphere, bad line managers and a terrible senior line manager. Niji EN is just not a good place to work.
The fact the contract is financially terrible is second to this.

>>52184118
>>52184764
Realistically though, would that happen through a graduation+redebut or a transfer+remodel? I mean, Holo was fairly smaller when ex-Luna joined from Niji, but now both companies are fairly big and a lot of fans are at least vaguely aware of each other's talents, so having to redebut with new kayfabe to uphold would feel a bit awkward, I think.

>>52197094
Almost no one can. She's supposedly this evil vindictive bitch but when you ask for proof or a source and not rrats, you get "do your reps, I won't spoonfeed you"

>>52179171
Petra is still a thing?

The leaker is Omega. He joined Niji after being fired by Hololive — that’s just the cover story. In truth he was always a double agent with the intention of using his autism to run corporate espionage. In addition to the leaks, he’s also whispering in Riki’s ear to make a new wave dedicated to elemental forces, with the girl representing earth also having to use sign language. Books will be written in this guy.

>>52199095
Uhhhhhh blacksanjibros how do we polish Rikus boots with this one...? I would very much like to get the input from this vermin here >>52197909
Is Nina the next hitler after Zaion?

>>52200052
Yagoo sends his regards.

Petra might as well not exist at this point...

>>52200721
She's the next one.

>>52181334
Rememver that one experiment in grade school where you combine every primary color and get black?

>>52179171
For those who watch streams: The rest of Ethyria and Maria Marionette have had streams where they have said they will "Stay in Nijisanji" or similar things. Per Example, Reimu said "I can't leave Nijisanji" and Millie said "If I leave Nijisanji don't look for me, I won't be making content after Niji". Was Nina amongst them? Who else have you seen talking this on stream?

>>52201425
Enna has also mentioned possibly continuing content creation after Kuro, but has also expressed loving being in the company, despite the controversy.

>>52195808
Wawa-sama... I kneel...

>>52179171
>/vt/ now have leakers telling us what the fuck happened in Niji
lol, this remind me of that guy DoomCock who talk about Disney leaks and most of his leaks tend to be right. So we have people inside the Nijimanagement leaking stuff out now?

>>52197096
No they didn't. She has the same numbers or better than she did as Zaion and she hasn't even debuted her new model yet

>>52199095
Blacksanji strikes again

>>52179368
ACCELERATE.

>>52179533
Aw man, she felt like a nice grandma and I kinda ship her with Vesper

>>52201899
Sonny has been leaking shit since he joined the company. How do you think people found about Pomu?

>>52202512
I can't believe people forgot he's always been /here/ but never super obvious about it like some "whores" we got around here.

>>52180792
Y'know it's a terrible agency when gachikoi wish that their oshi graduate. Even when I only watch Nina once I actually like her. She sounds fun and nice. I think she's like Mio, the mother of the group.

>>52193939
>It's just that my personality is the "lazy" type. So I prefer to do things in short, concentrated bursts.
he just like me...

>>52201425
Are those claims recent or said before their contract renewal?
Also I wonder if the 1-2% profit share is a recent change in the contract? They probably said that when they still have better contract than the current one.

>>52181458
>>52194009
I knew it, the leaker is not the new guy, but an old member who had enough with this bullshit.
Also I disagree that they knew who the leaker is. Your statement implies that the management is competent at their job.

>The only male friendly corpo is going to die
Man male vtubers have it rough

>but holostars
Not realistic for anyone who wants to be a streamer, all of the holostar guys are incredibly talented and can sing really well.

>>52203139
Just with a yacht

>>52185407
>>52185548
He's in Iluna, his most notable stream was the footcam stream with Finana. Femboy streamer.

>>52195808
No.

Selen is too mindbroken to keep going as a vtuber, shame.

>>52200721
>>52200900
Petra might as well not exist at this point while doing a lot of streams

>>52181991
It’s always hilarious to me that this 26 year old is absolutely btfo’d by a 50 year old in terms of likability

>>52179171
So anyone that isn't doing decent (for 2023 niji) is potentially gonna quit? If Nina quit because she's a low-mid tier money earner and management was ignoring her then 80% of them could jump off the sinking ship. Its gonna be Pomu and maybe 4/5 others left.

>>52181991
The good thing is financial journalism is way more incompetent than gaming journalism.
I mean, remember when they used to praise Theranos and the founder as "The next Steve Jobs" or when they call Sam Bankman Fried the new face of banking industry?

>>52183099
I doubt that. My theory is that there's a multiple leakers.
I don't think the dude who leaked the new wave is the same as the girl who leaked Nina's graduation.

>>52194999
>SANA YOU HAVE TO FUCKING STREAM
>Fuck no I'm out

>>52184440
>>52187246
Everyone talking as if nepohire is bad
When in reality, people love Sana, and the graduation was in good term.
Also this is my theory that Sana IRL is a bit too heavy and unable to do live idol stuff so she discussed it with Yagoo and she departed in good will.

>>52186037
>Rosemi should stay
>Elira (the leader of the clique) deserves to leave
>Millie (secret GC stream) deserves to leave
Ok Familliecuck/Fameliracuck

>>52184161
>Think that JP has more power
>Gundou literally put into the dark corner office doing nothing and then shitcan her over stupid baseball joke.
>Or how about Lulu getting stalked and the management didn't do jackshit?

>>52182038
Sana never streamed and no one was surprised she quit. Nina was grinding normally until today. Its like how every time there's a Gura stream chumbuds are half expecting this to be the one where she announces she's graduating.

>>52184764
Let Selen join Holo so she can finally fulfill her dream getting spitroasted by Tempus boys

>>52205985
Ibrahim basically told management to eat shit after their mistake with some kind of ecele collab and editing the video.

>>52187553
I'm more partial to thinking it went like:
>Sana you cant disappear like that, you need to stream to cultivate a fanbase, do the minimum, the very basics
>I dont wanna stream
>Then we're over, plan some farewell schedule and commit to it, we'll give you a proper graduation so you get to keep good reputation
>Aite m8 I'm out
>Boy that was awful, I hope no other talents ghosts her fans again like that

>>52205985
Lulu left because management was pushing her not to stream, so that they could sue the stalker for damages/revenue lost. Can't really do anything about the stalking itself in Japan.

>>52205822
>Yugo you HAVE to stream
>Fuck all of you

>>52185088
The problem is Vox is stuck in Niji because he's a neobody before that and with her unicorns leaving him, even when he's quitting it will be hard for a male to join another corpo or go Indie.

>>52206086
That's just nothingburger anon.

>>52207903
I think if I were vshojo and wanted to break into the male market, you could do no better than Vox.

>>52209274
Chinese women don’t use twitch though.

>>52209274
>Vox join Vshojo
>Vshojo imploded

>>52209575
If he's quitting Niji he's quitting Chinese menhera's.

>>52180911
I can not state enough how much I despise the term livers

>>52209575
99% of the Genshin Impact category is literally nothing but Chinese women

>>52209851
I keep reading it like the plural organ before I remember they're trying to not make vtuber a thing to get out of youtube's orbit.

>>52209274
>Vox and Conner (Bubi) spearhead Vshonen
>two britbongs collabing ranting about how they used to rule the world
You might be onto something, imagine the kino...

>>52205438
>financial “journalism”
There is no such thing. The news media are literally created to pump billionaire bags. The Motley Fool is one of the biggest news papers for financial tips and they exist to pump their own hedge fund.

>>52179171
Assuming that this is actually true, what is the best case scenario for "another big one" and what is the worst case scenario?

>>52181991
Holy shit! I don't know anything about this dude other than your comment and the comment you responded to, but he got his bag. If I were him I'd just liquidate everything (or sell it to the Chinese) then fuck off somewhere. Also get some plastic surgery so I don't look like I have The Downs because yikes, he drew the short end of the genetic stick.

>>52211133
Best case scenario Hex or Vox
Worst case scenario Elira, Pomu, or Selen

>>52210159
Connor still rule the world. That cunt have Ironmouse, and if she's not there Rainhoe is ready to be the second choice

>>52211150
>or sell it to the Chinese
I think that's the strategy right now, selling Anykara to the highest bidder and fuck off

>>52205438
Those aren't financial journalists. Those are bylines on a corpo press release.

>>52195808
I will kneel to chikim if it's true

>>52197659
some mix of imposter syndrome, issues with management and getting inordinate amounts of hate from sisters that the company literally forces her to read

>>52205847
People love Sana yes, but I'm sure they would've also loved whoever else might've been in her place. Calling her a nepohire doesn't necessarily mean she's bad, but I doubt she was the most qualified of the applicants.

>>52213697
If she had used any of her illustration talents as a part of her content then she would've definitely been among the most qualified, the problem is she seemed to actively NOT want to make that content.

>>52179914
wait didn’t she make some comment a few months ago something like “this might be my last chance to hit pred while in niji”

>>52214085
Her "real" job is drawing, probably not very fun to also draw for your secondary job. Seemed like she genuinely just wanted to stream vidya as a side gig and was way in over her head. Unironically should have been a Niji with those low expectations.

SOMEONE SAVE ROSEMI FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

>>52214458
She should pitch herself as an official EVO vtuber announcer. Excellent brand synergy.

>>52213697
Do you even watch her? She's interesting, and not just drawing. Also her not drawing in her stream I think she was contractually obligated not to draw because she's working with a big company for her illustrations.

>>52214580
Except she picked Tekken for the game she wanted to be behind which has perms issues and is generally a worse viewing experience.

Okay so Falsey finally made a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grN2W-byLUQ
I noticed that Nina thanked Ironmouse and Girl DM directly.
New Rrat: She will join Vshojo

>>52215165
But Tekken culture is huge in Japan

>>52179368
All out civil war.

>>52215219
Most likely scenario. I wish her success

>>52215219
It'll be way easier to adjust to her with a coomer vshojo model compared to pika.

>>52217552
But she has mom type streamer like Mio.
You don't want to see mom turned into a slut don't you?

>>52195808
>>52195960
>KFPs want more whores like their oshi
kek

>>52198777
Seethe incel. Yagoo would never resort to kuro tactics and would never cater to yall mfs.

Oh, you dont like yall?

Yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall y'all yall yall yall yall yall yall yall
annoyed yet fag yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall yall

>>52202512
Based yellow hair commander lol

>>52202894
Does help that they're both foxes...but probably for not much longer.

>>52224927
Mio's a fucking wolf, retard

>>52225298
Ok, both caniness then.
But again, for not much longer.

>>52224725
Wow that some level of seethe here, but holostars are still as doomed as they can be. NTA btw, just realist.

>>52225417
If my rrat of there being unicorns in management, maybe. Otherwise, Tempura may at least live to join their brethren in the Stars fes.

>>52215219
Would fit right in

>>52215219
prob will. been joking about it. at this point vshojo will have the representation of accepting leftover chuubas

>>52229972
This

>>52179171
Like rats fleeing a sinking ship

>>52190664
We will be sad and cease existing.
Or maybe making an Anya-[Redacted] Global afterwards

>>52188665
If Shu graduates I hope NijiEN just implodes on itself because what is the point

>>52211133
Hopefully anyone that isn’t Shu. I really wouldn’t care much if it were anyone else. Everyone’s a sacrificial lamb to the gottem god.

>>52237788
>"I don't care as long my oshi survives!"
And you wonder why a lot of people look down on Nijisanji fans.

>>52215219
She was in ironmouse new pv too

>>52186037
Enna and Elira should be terminated whilist everyone else gets to be graduated.

>>52240821
there's no functional difference between the two in niji anyway

>>52241095
Those who are terminated are done so suddenly that they don't get the chance to say goodbye and they are treated as a leaper where their colledges are limited on what they're allowed to say about them afterwards.
I'm not just talking about Zaion but outside of
>We really fought to have 'Them' in
nothing was really said by Yugo's co-workers after they were fired besides some tweets saying dam that sucks :(.

>>52187553
Anybody who is not an insider and argues that they know what was up with Sana is simply arguing from ignorance.

>>52210077
I don't think that's related, the term lost its association with youtube years ago. Vtubers on twitch (except for a few special snowflakes maybe) all call themselves "vtubers" too. "Livers" is just Niji's term for their members, it's like how Holo likes to call theirs "idols" and Prism uses "agents" instead.

>>52240821
Or just remove Enna and Elira and watch as the clique crumble

>>52241994
Like watching a Jenga tower fall in slow motion.

People in here talking about Shu graduating as if it would be a big deal. Man barely streams and has committed to nothing. He came, got paid and is gonna leave. Chad energy.

>>52242101
Wouldn't it be funny if Shu was the leaker and management hasn't caught on because they barely notice him anymore because he doesn't stream.

>>52184118
>where she can actually grow and be given opportunities to grow.
is she not given opportunities? explain

>>52242131
The leaker is most likely one of Finana's discord buddies.

>>52242131
>>52242490
wouldn't it be funny if the leaker was a disgruntled employee, angry at what was taken from them and determined to destroy the company from the inside?

>>52242490
>>52242586
The leaker is actually Finana herself looking for a way to take down the black company from the inside due to the mangers misgendering Yugo one too many times which is what lead to her mental breakdown on stream.

>>52240342
>pikamee was getting a lot of attention and collabs from vshojo, mainly kson, ironmouse and zentreya
>her current state didn't let her grow (VOMS is just a small circle, not even a company, so there's barely no media or accounting support and barely gets anything new aside whatever gyari manages to do on his free time, isekai had to be greenlit by him too)
>graduates
>henya
>nina is getting attention from ironmouse
>her current state didn't let her grow (japanese entertainment is mostly composed of black companies that treat talents like disposable tools, who would have thunk?)
>graduates
>we are here
Well shit

>>52242131
I doubt it. Shu just coasting by getting enough money to pay for his bills and shit. Do you think he wants to risk that for some internet drama clout?

Nobody can prove anything because the leaker is smart enough not to leave any big clues.

>>52242586
her model was so good...

>>52243294
Shu's devious I'm sure he's doing it to resolve an unspoken grudge he has with the company.

Weren't there supposed to be some holo graduations too, was that a nothing burger or later this year?

>>52244108
Later this year

>>52244108
Gura's graduating soon so that she can spend more time on raising a family.

>>52244108
Holo graduation? For real? Who?

>>52244108
lol, can't even answer the questions
nijisister, make a better lie next time, don't put yourself in a corner

>>52243114
The Vshojo auditions were just a gimmick to let everyone see how bad they'll have it at Niji/Holo

>>52244108
Mori's graduating so that she can join v-shojo

>>52244768
Gura will join Mythic to be closer to Nyanners

>>52244812
Imagine if Nyanners and Guara collabed.

>>52244924
If she wasn't in HL it would probably be good.

>>52244768
Contrary to popular believe, Mori is actually pretty seiso.
I suspect this is caused by her low self esteem. In today's stream she literally talk about how she envy her sibling for eating all the delicious stuff and not getting fat while she had to do cardio almost everyday. (Check Takamori offcolab today)

>>52179171
I don't think Millie will leave. The only thing that will make Millie leave nijisanji is when Enna also leaves. The only reason why Millie was in Nijisanji is because of Enna. If it wasn't for Enna, Millie will never join ninjisanji at all and will still continue to stream as a Filipino magical grandma.

>>52246249
Two peas in a shitpod

>>52246157
A fat woman is inheritantly untrustworthy because she is a sensualist who sees no real difference between a pastrami sandwhich and a dick in the mouth.

>>52246614
not every woman is your mom, anon