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https://www.animesenpai.net/japans-new-law-might-expose-mangakas-and-vtubers-real-identity-to-the-public/

>> No.51898279

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might

>> No.51898284

>>51898231
JP gov is actually following CCP-senpai footsteps

>> No.51898312

>>51898231
Final yab?

>> No.51898318

>>51898231
I can’t wait to see everyone shitpost about how ugly suisei is

>> No.51898328

>>51898231
>database accessible to the general public
Government mandated doxxing

>> No.51898353

that's very gay

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>>51898279
No survivors.

>> No.51898395

>>51898366
>the world elites killed abe for this perversion

>> No.51898434

>2022

>> No.51898450

Pseudonyms have to be protected.

>> No.51898465

>>51898231
This is just going to create a web of intermediaries.

>> No.51898475

>>51898231
Based. Finally some more Christina Grimmie shit.

>> No.51898519
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>>51898231
>September 29, 2023
SLOWPOKECHAMA?!?!?!

>> No.51898901

>>51898519
>2023
retardchama...

>> No.51899006

>>51898366
ESG faggot.

>> No.51899019
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>>51898366

>> No.51899163

>>51898519
time traveler chama?????

>> No.51899230

>>51898318
you mean ENNA? bufffff...

>> No.51899245

>>51898366
How the fuck does LGBT relates to banking? If anything, the only bank they can relate to are sperm banks.

>> No.51899288

>>51899245
You aren't supposed to notice that goy-kun....

>> No.51899303

How long do you faggots think this will last? I'll give it 6 months.

>> No.51899313

>>51898231
Wasn't this dropped because the geezers finally realized this would force them to reveal soldier and secret agent identities too?

>> No.51899454

reminder that in Sweden, all taxable income of everyone is public information.

>> No.51899495

>>51898231
I wonder if this will apply to vtubers who don't live in Japan, but work for a Japanese company because I know of one EN who will absolutely lose it.

>> No.51899668

>>51898366
Sometimes I wonder how more people haven't noticed when they make it this easy for us. I hope at least japan does.

>> No.51899849

>>51898231
Good, finally we can dox Canan so hard that she depressed enough and finally change her career to AV actress

>> No.51899954

>>51899495
Who? And if not Irys, why?

>> No.51899982

Filing system for invoices.


Companies don't invoice their employees, all you'll see on that database is Cover Corp.

>> No.51900032

>>51898366
>Went from "the Jews fear the samurai" to "the samurai are the Jews"

>> No.51900043

>>51898328
Finally I won't have to scroll through mounds of shit that is archive.

>> No.51900065

>>51899245
It's the same way that it relates to a lot of things. A lot of what is called "corporate wokeness" isn't aimed at the consumer, but potential employees, because we happen to live in a very particular moment. Here's how it goes:
>Gay people ostracized in youth
>Most become repressed shut-ins as a result
>repressed shut-ins get good at computer
>gays overrepresented in computer scientists (this is absolutely true and not just a meme)
>all of a sudden, computers become important for literally everything
>Companies discover that if they can convince people that they are gay-friendly they'll have way more computer talent applying
Now they are locked in a spiral where they're literally competing with each other to display how gay-friendly they are

>> No.51900073

>>51899668
>us

>> No.51900075

>>51900032
Infiltration and subversion 2 op, pls nerf

>> No.51900167

>>51898231
Between this and their new defamation laws, I think the Japanese government just wants to kill off whatever is left of the old Japanese internet culture, and probably wanted to for a while. 2ch, Pixiv, anything that's always looked unsavory to the government or to its old conservative voter base.

>> No.51900282

>>51899954
Vesper, that guy unironically will kill himself if even a sliver of his personal info got out. I'm not joking

>> No.51900567

>>51899495
I went to the website the article links to, and it seems to be a taxes thing. Outside JP everyone is a contractor and won't be affected. Even the page linked seems mainly focused on having to pay taxes on work and I didn't see anything about the identity reveal stuff. But, they have booth merch and a change.org petition, so I'm sure it won't happen. I wonder how much it affects people like hololive employees who are paid through the company and already pay taxes properly.

>> No.51900580

Gura will graduate because of this.

>> No.51900647

>September 2022
CATALOG OUTRAGE
nobody reads the filename or image

>> No.51900748

>>51898366
I just want them to repeal Tokyo Metropolitan Ordinance Regarding the Healthy Development of Youths Bill 156.

>> No.51900836
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>>51898901
>>51899163

>> No.51901077

>>51900647
maybe you should read it...

>> No.51901760

>>51898366
Sure, let's trust the people who value "number go up" over the lives of others in every other case to set the moral compass. I'm sure they have everyone's best interest in mind and there or no big sums of money changing hands in the background.

>> No.51902054

>>51899982
It would only affect independents I would think.

>> No.51902377

>>51900580
Everyone already knows who Gura is. But a lot of vtubers will stop because of this. Imagine living in a city of 40 million in a country with idol culture and no way to ever go out of the house again. there's a reason a lot of japanese singers and musicians hide their face, even when performing live.

>> No.51902699

>>51898231
faggot law pushed by commies and japs are faggots for allowing it to happen in the first place

>> No.51902786

>>51898231
Why use a photo of the one VTuber whose IRL name is actually linked to the character?

>> No.51902865

>>51899454
>eurocommies
not surprised

>> No.51903194

>>51898366
>especially the United States
And /pol/schizos blame anime, when it's their own country pushing this shit.

>> No.51903316

>>51903194
>it's their own country pushing this shit.
Technically speaking, it is mostly people with dual-citizenship...

>> No.51903419

>>51898231
Pretty sure its not going to be that simple. Its not like you can just look up your oshi and bam suddenly you have her full details. Last I heard you basically get a number that companies use for this and without said number the database is basically useless. I assume its mostly people in payroll/accounting departments thatll have it since its for taxes though to be fair its not like some of those people cant go schizo and decide to dox people anyway.

>> No.51903493

>>51898231
wait chinese electric batman is a vtuber?

>> No.51903600

>>51898284
not a joke many Japanese people are angry and accusing their governors of being Communists or Communist leaning.

>> No.51903863

Imagine we learn that Marine or one of the talent is already married or whatever

Oshi no ko soon

>> No.51903883

>>51898366
Classic US

>> No.51904006

>>51903419
It would only take one person to go crazy and start spamming their info online

>> No.51904558

>>51898231
>2022 article

>> No.51905403
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>>51903863

>> No.51905528

>>51903600
lmao. The jp government has swinged exclusively between conservative and ultra conservative for the past century.
But of course conservatives would never admit to wanting an authoritarian police state when the policies start harming them.

>> No.51905588

>>51903863
Anon...

>> No.51905630

>>51899454
same in finland, it's absolutely based

>> No.51905978

>>51902054
Right, corp chuubers are just employees so they aren't affected. It only applies to indies who don't have their own operation (like kson).

>> No.51906267

>>51898231
This might literally endager vtubers and mangakas. I Remember how many death threats mangakas get by just not letting a “best girl” win in a lovestory manga

>> No.51906355

>>51905978
Kson prob is ok coz she works for an american corpo but now that shes also employed by sega maybe could be trouble?

>> No.51906706

>>51906355
she is likely a contractor and thus will be affected. you don't really hire people outside your country unless you establish a business entity there. and she's an odd choice because she seems quite comfortable not hiding her identity.

>> No.51906739

>>51906267
Well, maybe they should've just let best girl win.

>> No.51906790

>>51903863
>one of
I can tell you with all certainty that you do not need to worry about one of the holos being married.

>> No.51906838

>>51906739
Every girl is best girl to someone. Even worst girls have fans.

>> No.51906868

>>51898231
Pekola is currently on a warpath deleting anything that might make her look bad after the reveal

>> No.51906895

>>51898284
Japan has been slowly implementing more and more CCP like laws

>> No.51906999

Japs lawmakers and congress are eternal retarded fags untill they pass a law to sell uncensored porn

>> No.51907012

>>51905978
Last I heard holos are contractors, though that was the last time this was posted and probably months ago.
Though the corpos would probably just make those who care employees.

>> No.51907274

>>51906999
This

>> No.51907531

>>51898284
>>51903600
>>51906895
>Japanese people do something in Japan
>"This is literally China!"

>> No.51907878

>>51898231
>usher in an entire new industry
>kneecap it

AIchubas, RISE

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>>51898231
>2022

>> No.51909801

>>51898231
Good, if you're not comfortable with showing your face then maybe you shouldn't become an internet celebrity and work a regular 9-5 instead.

>> No.51909956

>>51898231
Oh no, now they'll be publicly known figures just like literally everyone else in the entertainment industry. How will they survive?

>> No.51910248

>>51898434
>>51900647
>>51904558
>>51909143
>2022 article that mentioned the soon-to-be-implemented law in 4 months or so from now

Privacy isn't the only thing that become a concern for this new tax law. See: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2023-02-27/voice-actor-advocacy-group-streams-animated-videos-explaining-japan-controversial-invoice-system/.195295

If you can read the moonrunes: https://voicelessvoice803.wixsite.com/voiction

>> No.51910314

>>51909801
you mean it's not normal to be ashamed of your job and afraid someone will find out? always makes me feel great as a fan when my oshi talks about never wanting anyone to know about entertaining me.

>> No.51910507

>>51910248
both articles link to that wixsite, and I could only find complaining about the taxes there. not the identity thing. it could very well be a good way to make fans care. it's not about them having to pay taxes like everyone else, it will dox them and they'll have to stop!

>> No.51910775

I CAN FINALLY SNAP
RINDOU MIKOTO’S NECK LETS GOOOOOOO BASED JAPAN

>> No.51911059

>>51898231
This law was canned because itd fuck with the military

>> No.51911205

>>51910775

If I were to be serious however, it is rather concerning that Japan would implement such a law and then proceed to make said database available publicly instead of making it possible to privately inquire about the identity of the person working with a pseudonym. Quite literally about to make every article on nyfco 4x more detailed considering this will make doxxing much easier than it should be, especially for those under Nijisanji/Hololive as to my knowledge, they work as contractors. (Although, please correct me if I’m wrong)

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>search the database for mio
>find her name
>find her address
>track her down and then PLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
Thank you ghost of Abe I promised to impregnate all the hags

>> No.51915036

Japan is unironically going to shit just very slowly.
They are adopting shit from both CCP and the west in a bizarre mix.
They're gonna have ESG but also CCP rules at the same time.
Already happening with some programs they are sponsoring and even games reflect it already. Meanwhile they are getting laws like this being pushed too.
It's not a matter of if but when Japan will rot.

>> No.51915391

>>51898318
She could be a model and people would shitpost, too much hype.

>> No.51915587

>>51915036
You reminded me of this.
https://reduxx.info/japan-rape-crisis-center-denied-funding-after-founder-denounced-as-transphobic/

So much for based conservative Japan.

>> No.51915918

>NOOO MY HECKIN AUTISTIC ROASTIES BEHIND AN ANIME AVATAR WILL GET DOXXERINOED

I can't imagine feeling bad for women who livestream as an anime girl and tell unfunny jokes/stories in a fake cute voice and get paid thousands for it. I doubt this concern would be reciprocated.

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>>51915036
Some other anon recently said that Japan is doing a globohomo RTA and i think it describes Japan perfectly

>> No.51916585

>>51906355
why would kson be effected anyway? she already appears in the flesh pretty often with zero obfuscation of who she is.

>> No.51917200

>>51915918
Im not concerned for them so much as the quality of the entertainment they provide. I think having a layer of anonymity helps to prevent them from becoming as insufferable as all the other fleshtubers/titty streamers/actual celebrities.

>> No.51917627

>>51903863
Don't need to worry since they are all single mothers.

>> No.51918172

I don't give a shit about the vtuber angle to this because it's much bigger that I don't see how publicly doxing anyone who does business in your country is supposed to help anyone?

>> No.51918476

>>51918172
One of the whales has a job in government and really wants to meet his oshi.

>> No.51918534

>>51898231
Why are we talking about this old ass news that hasn't had any updates?

>> No.51918546

>>51915918
>>>/v/

>> No.51918854

>>51918476
> govt job
> whale

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>>51917627
>Single Mom Marine

>> No.51918889

>>51898231
good people can hunt for kronii and stab stab stab

>> No.51918976
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>>51918172
my schizo rrat is that there are malicious actors that just want to destroy anonymity on the internet in general and in this particular gambit to that end, they're counting on the knee-jerk reactions of "boohoo rich streamer problems" and boomers who unironically believe "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" to give them cover.

>> No.51918982

>>51915036
so CCP fighting the ESG
..........
i hope CCP wins if these are the only 2 options

>> No.51919262

>>51898231
Now I've lost it...

>> No.51919481

Anonymity is a serious problem, like imagine if Anonymous VTuber

>> No.51919776

>>51898231
What if they move the companies the Caiman islands, would it still apply if they are technically employed to a foreign company?

>> No.51919803

>>51898231
This is going end well with the amount of schizos in Japan. They unironically walk the walk and not walk and talk like foreign schizos. Time for the girls to leave that shit hole and migrate somewhere like London Canada or even the US.

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>>51918976
When you can figure out what'll go wrong with a public policy by proper and sound logic, that doesn't exactly a schizo take.

>> No.51920667

>>51898231
>September 29 2022

>> No.51920874

>>51918546
Go donate another $50 to your waifu so she can buy a gift for her chad boyfriend, paypig

>> No.51921269

>>51898231
Finally we can find Suisei

>> No.51921446

>>51921269
We will finally crush the royalist dream and enter an age of prosperity for the motherland.

>> No.51921918

>>51906999
Will literally never happen even if a majority of the population wanted it, you can't campaign on "decensoring porn" without being eviscerated by the media.

>> No.51922259

>>51919803
They vote shit like this in, so they deserve to suffer AND worse from what they asked for. Also, bad idea for them to flee to the west when it's on it's way out to becoming Rapesville for the next two centuries with no law to stop it due to the collapse. Getting doxxed as a chuuba will be the least of their worries, then.

>> No.51923574

>>51922259
This. JPs can get fucked for all I care. They asked for this.

>> No.51923975

>>51898231
For those interested, here's the first thread from back in September when this proposed law was first announced
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/32973516/

>> No.51926680

>>51898231
I guess they are solving the dox issue since it all public info now lol

>> No.51927131

>>51898231
Japan gonna jumpstart a new baby boom

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>>51903600
yes and the communist party is big as hell there and infiltrated all the institutions. I can guarantee you all that they are even among Cover employees hence their retarded decisions.

>> No.51930496

>>51898231
Pretty based, Japanese government wants to give unhinged psychos the info needed to stalk their vtuber oshi and mating press nakadashi them IRL

>> No.51931243

>>51921446
Suisei... Romanov?

>> No.51933160

>>51898231
why do the japanese try to ruin everything good they're ever made?

>> No.51934167

I never understood what to so-called benefit for this is, even ignoring the vtuber impact

>> No.51935372

>>51900065
Furries being the most knowm fandom with IT personal in it backs this up
Heck, how manny are ALSO GAY?

>> No.51935575

>>51934167
these people have been tax exempt. jp govt wants their fucking money. the dox part is a maybe risk of doing it. i think most people are mad about paying taxes.

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