/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>51855657
ah already taking advantage of her graduation for pity points even though they did nothing to defend her from the baseball autists
as expected from nijisanji

>Finigger has 1.8k for a birthday
Holy GRIM

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>97,059: Gundou (Nijisanji)
>80,310: Akari (VSPO)
>47,344: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>44,596: Gura (Hololive)
>43,183: Miko (Hololive)
>36,553: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,128: Watame (Hololive)
>29,231: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,943: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,848: Korone (Hololive)
>19,064: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)
>18,924: Noel (Hololive)
>17,619: Reid (Neo-Porte)
>16,598: Nene (Hololive)
>16,407: Tsuna (VSPO)
>14,183: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,500: Met (VSPO)
>11,620: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,204: Koyori (Hololive)

>>51855810
>>51855446
nijiCN has reclined into the dark pits of obscurity and irrelevancy. 80k box? More like 80k bots. It seems the sisters have run out of bot money and it's showing. The only thing they have left is pissing all over the numbers thread and even then that won't change the fact that their bargain bin liver organs are so washed that not even the zhangs will give them the time of day. How sad. How unfortunate.

>>51855846
Sorry baseballfags too mean!

>>51855846
>he didn't watch the clip
>still tried to start shit
>thinking anyone cares enough about Kanda to reply seriously

The reason God favours Hololive so much is because he thinks girls shouldn't collab with boys on stream either

When will Miko play GTA 4 or GTA San Andreas now that they have the permissions for older GTA games?

>>51855873
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 66,563 - Apex
6) Watame (Hololive) - 84,756 - Birthday 3D Live
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,203 - Old Coin Pusher Friends (w/ Okayu, Noel, Polka)
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 57,303 - Hairstyle Reveal
9) Hinano (VSPO) - 87,282 - 3D Debut
10) Aqua (Hololive) - 68,208 - Startend Apex
11) Lui (Hololive) - 94,286 - Birthday 3D Live
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,800 - Only Up
13) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 49,747 - Mahjong League
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,953 - Sankisei Left 4 Dead
15) Flare (Hololive) - 49,298 - 1 Million Endurance Karaoke
16) Air (Nijisanji) - 53,257 - 3D Debut
17) Qpi (VSPO) - 55,763 - 3D Debut
18) Iroha (Hololive) - 101,527 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,917 - Clubhouse 51 (w/ Shion)
20) Suisei (Hololive) - 29,259 - Minecraft
21) Gundou (Nijisanji) - 97,059 - Graduation Stream

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
3x: VSPO
2x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Aqua, Suisei
1x: Air, Aki, Beni, Chiroru, Flare, Gundou, Hinano, Iroha, Lui, Marine, Qpi, Tsukasa, Watame

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
130x: Hololive
26x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
46x: Pekora
15x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Hal
3x: Aqua, Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Hinano, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro

I love them

We love korone /here/

>>51855446
Wtf did Mumei even do to decline?

>>51855629
>Lulu, Gibara, Ange and Gundou were the most clipped for ENs back in early 2020
Ange...

To put the thread in a more numerical mood, here is the update on a
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS
chart, this type for Hololive (the Japanese branch).

I genuinely expected to see a recline *this month* as the numbers "felt" lower these days with sub 30k golds but
>DAMN
they're back into an incline path and back into close to 12k with the branch inclining for almost the whole month

I'll assume it's due to Aqua (o streams this month) and Suisei (7 streams this month) being back with a more frequent activity pulling the branch up but, even then, that wouldn't explain.

The real reason is that NINETEEN (19) of the 33 active girls have a 10k+ AVERAGE (not median, true average) and that's clearly reflecting in the numbers for the branch.
It came to a point that even their "midpoint" line (the pink one), which represents the point with an equal number of days below and above that line, is also over 10k for the branch.

It looks like this massive incline AND persistent strength is getting the thread bored and in search for entertainment in other venues.

>>51855936
based
>>51855937
cuck

>>51855961
She reclined at the same time as kronii, so thank her

>>51855961
Be sick and poor content choices

>>51855975
falseflagger

>>51855961
Stopped streaming regularly. Her old number was also artificially boosted by a lot of karaokes.

>>51855646
>if I call someone mentally ill that means they are wrong
Not being 100% normal typical in brain development doesn't make one wrong. If I say 2 + 2 = 4 will you blow a gasket? No, that's because you don't associate with the number 2 emotionally. Yes Suisei doesn't like Hololive and yes she is reaching outside of Hololive. We know she wants her career to hit new heights. If I'm coming up with 4 and you're not than it's likely you have more mental illness than I.

>>51855896
>It seems the sisters have run out of bot money
its actually more funny than that
since the crackdown during the protests in china there has been a significant reduction of chinese bot services

OH NO OH NO OH No...

>>51856006
>constant accusations to deflect
you are a cuck

>>51855961
Haachama Jr

>>51856006
At least do what Saplings do when defending their oshi and spam images

>>51855869
Is her birthday today because of Gura or does it have a fish/dragon meaning

>>51855912
>cries about gundou graduating even though they didnt say anything when she was being attacked o

>>51855969
>The real reason is that NINETEEN (19) of the 33 active girls have a 10k+ AVERAGE
>meanwhile only one HoloEN member has that and you can barely count her as being active
Kek. But I guess after almost 2 years Cover managed to find 5 girls that'll be HoloJP-tier, right?

>>51855896
I recognize you, you're the Tempiss faggot. Your homos reclined just as much. Remember Vesper's 4k floor?

>>51855969
HoloJP is just stronger than everyone else in all metrics.

>>51856061

damn, cunny keeps sisters and twitch fags away but I doubt it would keep a recently turned cuck away

>>51856100
might be pretty hard i mean have you seen the current indies or small corpo debuts? literal garbage tier

>>51855921
Doubt about it lol
Holo mem waiting from konami panchiko Inc permission for MGS3 remake

Even their fans are delusional...

>>51856036
>since the crackdown during the protests in china there has been a significant reduction of chinese bot services
Sister... Thing's aren't looking so good.

>>51856130
Uuuu

>>51856063
None of the Niji birthdays really have any thematic meaning they're just random days. I think with 200+ people they try to space the birthdays out as best they can.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>6/21 DAILY TALLY
44,596: Gura (Hololive)
6,425: Kronii (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,060 - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 7,791 - Karaoke + Announcement
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,478 - 3D ASMR
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,225 - Minecraft
10) Ina (Hololive) - 14,002 - Switch Sports (w/ Henya)
11) Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,314 - Unarchived Karaoke
12) Ike (Nijisanji) - 10,765 - Birthday Stream
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,449 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 5,976 - Diablo IV
15) Roca (Idol) - 7,647 - Debut Stream
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,637 - Bread & Fred (w/ Kronii)
17) Mori (Hololive) - 8,412 - Getting Over It
18) Alban (Nijisanji) - 46,895 - Outfit Reveal
19) Ina (Hololive) - 9,183 - Karaoke
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,723 - Minecraft
21) Gura (Hololive) - 44,596 - Birthday Stream

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Fauna
2x: Ina, Kiara, Mori
1x: Alban, Amelia, Baelz, Gura, Ike, Kronii, Ren, Roca, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
38p: Fauna
23p: Ina
20p: Kronii
16p: Mori
13p: Amelia
10p: Kiara
6p: Baelz
5p: Alban, Gura, Ike, Ren, Roca, Shu
4p: Luca
3p: Enna, IRyS, Mysta, Nina, Poko, Uki
2p: Fulgur
1p: Magni

>>51855969
And here is Nijisanji (the Japanese branch). Things are not as rosy, to say the least.

Last year, by this point, they were tracking on a 4.5k average
>due to Salome, Mayuzumi and Melissa graduation and the baseball season having started
This year? Hard stuck near the 3k line, having crossed it on the downrward direction for the first time just last month.
Their median, usually very stable, fell as well and crossed the 2k line on the downward direction for the first time since CCVID.

Their numbers, if not reclining, are stable and stuck on a low point of their recorded history. Based on 2022 they have a couple of weeks to turn this ship around or they risk having summer 2023 to track lower than 2022

>>51856173

wait is it really 9 hours until fauna? I love ASMR but thats so logn

>>51856105
>Anon lacks the necessary information
Anonfagchama...

>>51856200
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
127x: Hololive
42x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
19x: Fauna
18x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Baelz, Gura, Ina
11x: Kronii, Mumei
9x: Amelia, Vox
8x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Alban, Finana, Ike, Luca, Ren
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
180p: Fauna
139p: Ina
130p: Mori
120p: IRyS
106p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
85p: Kronii
74p: Amelia, Vox
70p: Kiara
60p: Gura
56p: Mysta
47p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
19p: Ike
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny
10p: Alban, Elira
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem, Roca
4p: Magni, Nina, Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>>51855961
Was particularly popular with Covid lockdown tourists, and Covid lockdowns ended. Any other answer is schizo shit.

>>51856170
i mean the chinese vtuber market is not doing that great
probably the reason why nijisanji has begun to slowly distance themselves with less b2 stuff compared to last year

>>51856200
Gura (?) Sweep

>>51856273
It's not just that. She is having a rotten 2023 and didn't manage to stream regularly even for a pair of weeks

>>51856200
>44,596: Gura (Hololive)
Gura, This is Astonishingly Based As Fuck, you know?

>>51856239
I'm staying up for Faufau because its only once a week at most, and she deserves it

>>51856200
Graduate everyone with less points than Gura

>>51856006
So, we like homocollabers now or what?

>>51856154
They sure are. Anyway, looking forward to the next HoloEN stream in *checks schedule* a little under 3 hours. Thankfully Mel is streaming soon to save us from an homo-only timeslot.

>>51856222
It's only going to keep getting lower as they debut more and more VTA shitters which lower the average. The latest batch are a bunch of starsJP tier flops except for one guy.

>>51856329
Korone =/= your EN whores

>>51856329
No. I just pretend they don't exist and keep watching my oshi

>>51856314
Aye for me though it starts at 6am, I dunno whether to sleep or not. I'm not at all tired and it's absolutely roasting.
At least im on "holiday" so I could just stay up all night like im a younger person
>>51856329
I dunno why they're like this, constantly defending shit content and doing so by attacking other girls like this>>51856399

>>51856273
would be weird considering lockdowns ended in 2021

>>51856329
Personally I wish /#/ went back to actually being a thread about numbers instead of a male collab watchdog thread.

>>51856239
I'll go to sleep, and get up later, even though I do not like ASMR and I work at 4 am. Do it for her.

I have never watched Aia. I think I’ve heard her voice from a clip here before but I’m not sure of even that. I have watched scarle for a couple minutes because I was lied to. She’s alright I guess. I’ll be real every en vtuber is comparable to each other as streamers except Gura.
Gura>>>>>>En>>Kronii/Ame

>>51856390
>not doing vod reps
you must be some kind of retard

Apparently covid lockdown is whenever their numbers started dropping.

>>51855834
>>51855810
blessed sexhair thread

EN3 Announcement is in less than 7 Hours so GETTO HAIPUDO because Kino is coming.

>>51856390
>Unironically not watching VODs around this time.

>>51856556
balls?

>>51856510
>>51856557
>just watch vods and don't pay attention to Cover not hiring a single new girl for HoloEN in almost 2 years
Coverdrones sure like sucking on Fagoo's balls.

>>51856512
west ended their strict lockdown by the end of 2021where they cancelled mandatory wfh and sfh
asia had it until the middle of 2022 around august september where they cancelled mandatory wfh and sfh

What is even the point of corps when twitch indies can pull numbers like this?

The thread was unironically better with Gura seethe. Somebody please spam cunny the thread is worthless right now with these schizos

>>51856482
Aia is exceptionally boring. Think Iofi who can speaks English slightly better and doesn't really have any weird personality quirks. Scarle is just an ADHD fever dream.

>It's another episode of Nijiniggers playing both sides to control the narrative

>>51856619
>still trying to shill his small corpo garbage here
>still thinking that cover was wrong in not picking his small corpo oshi
kek

>>51856638
Where's the twitch/youtube tally

>>51856656
>koronecuck trying to deflect

>>51856556
Tempus 3*

>>51856622
Schizo parts of the west kept it going till 2022. The normal areas were done 2020

>>51856449
>PNG
We're improving and inclining

>>51856740
i thought euro was done around 2021 and only required the booster

>>51856638
You see how the 5th best vtuber on the entire platform is 1k and the #1 vtuber on the entire platform is 10k? That's the reason. Twitch vtuber viewer pool is extremely fucking shallow.

>>51856391
It will get more stable though.

>>51856694
Now shitting on Cover being retarded means I'm a shill? Damn, that means that you can't criticize Cover for their HoloProEN stunt either. How does it feel being a homobeggar?

>>51856638
>anny
clinging to a literal chatbot really pays huh

>>51856638
I don't really care about corpos but Hololive is the best because it's all the same girls playing together.
Eventually you know every single one of them. How they behave, sound, some beliefs, their skills talents etc and then its
>I care now
but unironically when any of them show up for events, even if you don't really like them as much as girls you regularly watch.

>>51856773
you already tried that angle yesterday anon

>>51856773
Shitting on Cover doesn't make you a shill. Using the exact same verbiage as the roca jewshill does.

>>51856705
>Gura
>44k
They uhh... decided to skip this one day out

>>51856813
You got me confused for another anon, beggar.

>>51856770
Yeah bro look how much better YouTube is looking right now.

>>51856773
I mean if i was a homobeggar i would actually want those indies and small corpos to go into hololive since they are on the same level of quality as tempiss and poop

Bae why did you take a week off Fauna is pulling away again...

>>51856556
>XFLOPLIOUL WAS TEMPISS COUNTER PROGRAMMING.
>IFLOPLUNA WAS TEMPOOP COUNTER PROGRAMMING
>GAYMERS WILL BE EN3 COUNTER PROGRAMMING

>>51855969
>>51856222
And here is NijiEN. The only appropriate description for this chart is
>Branch Who Thought They'd Lost All Numbers Lose Last Additional Bit Of Numbers They Didn't Even Know They Still Had

One anon put forward a theory that some segments of his chinese "sisters" audience was waiting for some landmarks to give them a "book end" and allow them to move on in peace.
Some of these milestones are visible into the chart with the most salient being Luxiem anniversary.

Somehow, after what looked like a stabilization in May, they seem to be losing some more of their audience and the question should be not why but
>how is that even possible?

>>51856791
Neuro made a lot of people incline to another galaxy.

>>51856848
What verbiage? That Cover hasn't hired a single new girl while hard shilling 8 failures?

>>51856773
No but using the same line as that retard idolshill makes you one

I miss fauna uuuu

>>51856759
Early 2022. The world was essentially split into I am a grown man I’ll do what I want and “trust the science.” You can argue about who ended up with the better plan in another year

>>51855969
Is there legitimately a bigger streamer group than Hololive in the entire world? Legit question. I know there are bigger Individual streamers that can beat the top HoloJP's, and Dream's group pre face reveal could shit out 6 digit CCV streams, but is there any official streamer group bigger right now? I would hazard a guess that there might be less than a dozen even?

>>51856932
bigger in what criteria?

>>51856858
Pls watch Finana's BD bros....she is also from the sea you know...

>>51856858
There different is any time of day 10k is going to be the #1 spot and the #5 spot might be 2k instead of 1k.

>>51855969
I hope they beat their all time peak soon

>>51856015
NTA, but watch Suisei more before making dumb assumptions.

>>51856713
Bless you schizo I’m glad you’re here in our darkest hour. Call out all the cucks or post cunny just don’t repeat the same phrases with pictures

>>51856899
This verbiage
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=fagoo
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=coverdrone
It amazes me that so many retards here cannot do the bare minimum to avoid signing their fucking posts.

man, why is so easy to spot the indie/jew shill?

>>51856848
>Using the exact same verbiage as the roca jewshill does.
Wait the guy is still here? kek i remember him sperging out on another thread about how cover missed a huge opportunity on passing her and that other one and that they would have gotten regular 20k ccv with covers exposure

>>51856899
If you aren't a schizo or an anti or falseflagger what's your purpose in bringing this up? Do you think it's never been discussed before? Do you have something new or interesting to add? Is it relevant to anything?

>>51857004
>I hope they beat their all time peak soon
It's not looking like it would be possible right now, those first two weeks of January were something else, didn't they get some 7 100k+ streams in 2 weeks?

>>51857010
I'm pretty sure I was the first person to use Fagoo

If NijiEN gamers is announced to counter EN3 then how did they know that EN3 was going to be announced?

>>51856556
its not july yet retard

>>51856222
So NijiID isn't taken into account?
I know it's gotten harder to distinguish them now.

>>51856391
The funny part is, the NijiID that graduated actually had a better median for the month than the new wave guy.
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UC1vawzfbCnRpHT9SJ5pHlHw/overall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPWB2AO5C8

>>51857010
Funniest thing is that he went mask off several times already.

>>51857069
Omega still has pawns inside

>>51857052
The first person to use that was that 2view who people thought got rejected from the auditions

>>51857069
EN management are NijiSpies. Nijisanji knew about Connect the World which is why they tried to crash the branch to put out their own live first.

>>51857078
>So NijiID isn't taken into account?
Only the japanese branch for now.

>>51856932
Niji and Holo are more or less the same, if you take big to be total "watch-hours" in a given period of time. Niji used to have a big lead but it's been steadily chipped away. Western groups might have bigger individual streamers but their rosters are too small to really compare.

>>51856770
>>51856977
Are you pretending to be dumb? The best en vtubers are holoen and they can’t even consistently beat those numbers. It’s really just Gura alone with all her millions

>>51857045
No purpose other than shitting on Cover's retardation until they finally announce EN3.

>>51857052
Fagoo is definitely a little more common, but the rocafag co-opted it at some point during one of his spergouts

>>51857121
You are talking to the same person, the "seething 2 views".
His main complaint never was "why don't you watch this particular 2 views" but "Hololive changed the vtubing world for worse, everything was better before they were dominant and they should die so the industry can thrive"

>>51857151
kek this is the saddest part, and how that turned out

>>51857006
I would if she streamed or was honest about her plans to leave.

>>51857069
Niji gamers is all male, it's completely irrelevant to EN3, different audiences. If they were gonna try to steal EN3's thunder they'd hold a female wave in reserve until it's announced.

>>51857156
talking about it, where is the graph comparing niji and holo's watched hours?

>>51856896
It honestly feels that Niji EN reached its peak around the time when both the Luxiem boys and the rest of the branch sub growth was at it peak and the entire branch was spamming several dozen milestone celebration streams every single week

>>51857121
Well I dunno who that is but if it was this post No.47205568 then it was definitely me
I've never liked him really though so I was quick to turn on him

>>51857041
And you have proof of them saying that and not strawmen?

>>51856966
I'd say just average CCV in general. I'm trying to think of any youtube/twitch group that's not OTV (who gets mogged by Holo anyway) and I'm drawing a blank. Don't really follow any fleshies though outside of content creators who specialize in my favorite games and/or genres and all of them are small time with I think only 2-3 off the top of my head who even has >500k subs.

>>51857229
after all this time, you still assume their management to be smart

>>51857244
im retard >>47205568

>>51857194
So you're just spamming and trying to start timeloops, functionally identical to a shitposter.

>>51857207
>Hololive changed the vtubing world for worse, everything was better before they were dominant and they should die so the industry can thrive
Wait? That sounds like the same retarded nijishill who keeps spouting the "Nijisanji was the reason for the vtubing golden age and they made vtubers like Kizuna Ai popular"
I wonder if its the same retard

>>51856899
>while hard shilling 8 failures?
12
ftfy

>>51857097
And any reason you think this is the same person?

Korone is at the same level as Matsuri at this point, and I doubt it'll stop here, I expect to see her on Bar Robert before the end of the year.

>>51857290
Just like more than half of the posters in these threads, likely including you as well.

>>51857318
Sorry, forgot about Uproar.

>>51857335
This but unirininonicaly

>>51857253
check the threads from the other day i remember him sperging for a while after people tried to ask him the basis of his criteria of his small corpo oshi

>>51857364
Wasn't being ironic, I 100% expect her to either do Roberu's thing, or whatever Aruran's talk show is called.

>>51857045
I gave him a pass to discuss whatever he wanted about vtubers.

>>51857335
I will be expecting a 12 hour earlicking apology ASMR stream if that happens

Shitrys doesn't even know Hololive members, i say we shit on her like we did Kronii. This whore only joined Hololive for the FOTM buff, she probably doesn't even like idol shit.
>watched
I didnt watch it, i clicked on it because i couldn't believe my eyes.

>>51857421
Why do you think she is being such a whore

>>51857290
>So you're just spamming and trying to start timeloops, functionally identical to a shitposter.
Nijifags have some kind of retarded belief

>>51857236
It did. Wanna know one funny thing? The week of Aug 23 was the week he called Sonny mother a whore, then "apologized" by saying the equivalent of
>we westerners banter all the time, you chinese wouldn't understand

>>51857205
No you’re just a schizo

>>51857443
>we

>>51857229
>If they were gonna try to steal EN3's thunder they'd hold a female wave in reserve until it's announced.
Would it be more or less humiliating than selejo vs Gen5?

>>51857348
Ah so its the retarded nijienfag

>>51857327
Basic pattern recognition

Enna's too embarrassed to say "Queen of Spades"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szu6QGn_PGQ&t=8890

>>51857479
You faggots really just raid the thread to shill your dramawhore

>>51857531
not clicking

>>51857236
Most of /#/ kinda called it when we said that the constant celebration streams were gonna bite them in the ass one day. They pretty much milked every buff they could think of dry and when someone found something with even a tinge of buff, they'd squeeze it even faster. That's not to say that isn't good. HoloJP does it all the time with minecraft and whatever FOTM there is. The only difference is that HoloJP has actual genius savant creators like Pekora and Marine who can provide endless amounts of content. Not to mention HoloJP has the box which is just a streaming cheat code at this point.

Is there anything worse than a small corpo chuuba? At least with indies you could argue some are diamonds in the rough but small corpos are just Walmart Holo/Niji with whores thinking they'll get Gura-level fanbases

>>51857543
nobody is shilling vox?

>>51857442
Korone's last ASMR was pretty affectionate. That's probably when she figured out that she'd have to talk to males on stream. I wonder why Botan decided to opt for no training with males and Korone didn't. I know, she's the centerpiece of this shill. Despite capcom trying to ruin Hololive Korone is still their posterchild.

>>51857496
They could probably get ok debut numbers because tourists but they'd crater to 1-2k within a couple weeks or sooner if they get more ESLs or non-standard background people.

>>51857443
>watched the clip but not Mori's Idol cover
Based moomposter IRyS' Idol cover is almost at 600k do your reps

>>51857456
Isn't she supposed to be older (I genuinely have no idea)? Maybe the biologic clock started to kick in.

>>51857629
>they'd crater to 1-2k within a couple weeks
If any of them are above 1k it would be a minor miracle.

>>51855969
>>51856896
>pekoguraburu apr20-apr26
>superhololiveworld team pickings next day
>hololive went up after
>nijisanji went down
pekora actually put holo mindchair into nijifags ahead of goldenweek in preparation for superhololiveworld
sasuga pekora, one of the nijisanji-killers

>>51856977
In what universe is HoloEN getting 10k every day?

>>51857644
Why would it need to affect streams? They're vtubers, they have complete privacy in their personal lives.

>>51857633
Go fuck yourself.

>>51857379
I’m not talking about sperging I’m talking about that 20k quote because that implies an en being gura tier and also among the top 10-15 globally.

>>51856638
Shondo's back already?

>>51857502
Sure, anon. I'm some random nijifag shitting on Cover for not debuting an EN3 sooner, because that's exactly what they do. Did sucking Yagoo's dick that sucking hard made you lose neurons?

>>51857678
Who said they were? Do you think every indie gets 10k every day other than literally only 1 person on twitch being able to do that, sometimes depending on her content?

>>51857706
rimjobchama...

>>51857457
Homobegging faggot

>>51857479
Didnt also help that the chinese version of falseyed couldnt explain cultural differences and instead fanned the flame higher

>>51857443
watch the clip titlereader, she knows about Aqua but wants a proper maid.

Kiara forgetting Kanata was an angel was worse.

>>51857747
Beggarchama...

>>51857705
She didn't get banned from twitch just twitter.

>HOLOLIVE TERRITORY
>HOLOLIVE COLONY

Fauna frame up

>>51857773
Stop making excuses for the goblin. She is an embarrassment to the Hololive name.

im angry

>>51857742
>There different is any time of day 10k is going to be the #1
What did he mean by this?

>>51857598

If you guys wanna know what the biggest Twitter vs Streaming numbers disparity looks like, look at this male vtuber Shoto, he puts Vox or Niji disparity to shame
His twitter interactions would make you believe he is the biggest vtuber on the planet

>>51856896
They stopped the bleeding in March, or so I thought. It's a slow seep now. An amazing rise though.
>>51857479
I will never get why the mother joke was so poorly received. My and my buddies used to joke around like that. What got your ass kicked is saying you wanted to fuck someone's mom, that's the sort of thing that gets someone's fist aimed at the back of your skull.

Oh shit it is rimjob anon why am i not surprised he's the one trying to shill the fotm indie and small corpo chuuba here

>>51857830

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPq2KIDW-Pg

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1671533439705845760

Cryptic-tweet obviously preparing for new wave announcement. Probably debuting this weekend or the next.

>>51857916
I feel the way the thread feels so everyone has to eat it with me

>>51857920
We know. We're just wondering if they're gonna be 20k champs or 500 chumps.

>>51857919
>8hours
Guess I'll take a nap

>>51857920
New laughing stock for the thread incoming

>>51857920
yeah, we know
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/14faa74/here_we_goes_again/
The r3ddit isn't happy about it.

Why did mods ban pekomiko schizo but not this fag spamming on cd

the blue raccoon from Idol had an ad that presented her as Italian, with Funiculi, Funicula as the music.

maybe they did rip off Phase.

>>51857879
shxto fanabse is twitter central anon

>>51857920
what did xsolul peak at? 60k?

>>51857920
Thanks!

>>51857879
It's bots + bought exposure. Common twitter shit.

Fauna stream?!

>>51857983
rimjob anon is probably the indi/small corpoe janny

>>51857983
Are you talking about me? Im not posting on cd but you said it was a fag so

Why yes I will be patiently waiting for Fauna's ASMR stream.

>>51857991
she acted like discount tenma

>>51858115
this but whatever the opposite of patiently is

>>51857890
My personal rrat? Either an inside job by Bili2 again akin to what happened with Holo and Asoul (but then you have to wonder where their Luxiem replacement is) or some legitamately butthurt 50 cent bug who didn't like that some "white dudes" we're siphoning money from the motherland via the fujos.

>>51858040
I don’t care about them I’m talking about the faggot literally posting something every minute to minute and a half.

>>51857920
Raspberry tally has been looking really thin lately. I'm glad Niji is releasing more shitters for our enjoyment.

>>51857890
>My and my buddies used to joke around like that.
You don't do that in front of his crush, that's for sure.
When you are around your buddies and there are girls they might be interested the usual thing to do is to try to build your buddies up, not to tear them down in front of the chicks

>>51858161
thats rimjob anon

>>51858148
Impatiently?

uuuuuuuuuu schedule
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1671625012242165760

>>51857890
In China insulting someone's mom is like saying cunt in public

>>51857236
Nijisanji has a habit of hitting it big purely on social experiments. Salome is a good example of this but NijiEN is not far off from it.
There were so many members who joined all around the same exact period that this is what the year would look like:
>Bday
>Bday
>Bday
>XXX milestone!
>Bday
>XXX milestone!
>XXX milestone!
>Half year anniversary
>XXX milestone!
>bday
>bday
>XXX milestone!
It was literally this the entire fucking year, and because they're all a bunch of fucking gigalosers who spend all their life terminally online, there was never a moment where they weren't around collabing and joining these milestone streams. Essentially, viewers were throwing them money and subs, and they would continuously celebrate it in this perfect loop that would never end, hence the "social experiment"

But at some point it has to stop and there IS a market cap. They relied so much and so heavily on the CN audience that by the time they left them, NijiEN had nothing to show for anymore.

>>51858201
it was only a matter of time before the new climbing game autism got her

>>51857901
I told you! See >>51857207. It's the "seething 2 views"

>>51858201

>>51857920
Why do I feel like I'm having a déjà vu?

>>51858201
Imagine board. Post image.

>>51858211
>is like saying cunt in public
in the US

>>51858169
>He thing being a shitter is enough to threaten the KING Axel
Lol that take SKILLS, one does not simply get less viewer than Axel

>>51858234
luv me 7AM Fauna ASMR streams for my commute

>>51858152
It was literally the second option you said.
Im surprised people forgot that drama from b2 vtubers last year when it was revealed that someone who leeched and streamed with luxiem got exposed as someone who was connected to their white wolf anti group

>>51858201
Solid schedule

>>51858186
like everything encompassing china what's the tone and version that the dramafag on b2 that ran with the story served his audience? and when someone find free clickbait that can't really rebuke everyone will jump in to get a slice of the pie

>Horse girl allegations
I thought horse girls just liked horses, do they like horse cock?

>>51858201
Wow thanks Pekora now everyone gonna stream Only Up

>>51858234
Uuuu I love her

Someone wanna tell me where all the viewers went?

>>51858313
She went out with twapp, so yes.

>>51858245
uh shadynecro twitter account?

>>51858185
Again it’s not i mean literally 59 seconds to a 1.5 minutes if a picture is added

>>51858376
For me as a man it's understandable because I idolise the penis
https://files.catbox.moe/e9qm9w.png

>>51858271
But did he ever beat the Emperor or the Empress on the same day?

>>51858364
Kek, it only gets worse.

>still no twitch tally
OMG

>>51855969
>>51856222
>>51856896
And here is HoloEN. Like for NijiEN, there is not a lot that can be said with the only adjective for it being
>GRIM
HoloEN touched their all time low the day before Gura birthday and climbed down the 5k line for the first time ever.

Anons complained and yes, it is a matter of having two of their best performers (Gura and Mumei) effectlvely benched for health or other reasons, and having half the branch (Ina, Ame, Kiara and Bae) making poor choices of content but, even then, that's not enough explanation or, at least, not a satisfactory one.

>>51858376
tortellini has claimed nearly all of council

kronii, you have to save them

FAUNA ASMR IS OIL THEMED
IM GETTING JERKED OFF TONIGHT BROSSSSSSS

>>51858526
>that's not enough explanation or, at least, not a satisfactory one.
How so? it kinda make sense to me

>>51858526
Median is recovering. Average is being pulled down due to the usual suspects

>>51857954
I respect irys more after finding out mori was using bots to increase her idol view

>>51858514
wanna bet that he's gonna resume tomorrow and conveniently ignore today?

>>51858441
The bloke who did this just grafted the penis on a fully female form because, to the best of my anatomy knowledge, penises don't come out of "mons pubis"

>>51858526
HoloEN used to compete with HoloJP. It's hard to believe. They need a shot in the arm and for the roster to be healthy.

This thread is infested with vermin

>>51858526
i always love the part when they keep a similar sinusoid to holoJP untill tempus debut, but crash like twitter/reddit growth afterwards. curious.

>>51858574
Ear licking doko?

>>51858526
The effects Tempus have had on HoloEN's health will never be able to be fully fixed. Omega killed an entire branch for xis delusions.

>>51858526
>JP: UP UP UP HIGH HIGHER HIGHEST EVER
>EN: DOWN DOWN DOWN LOW LOWER LOWEST EVER
I just summarize these chart for you guys

>>51858526
You can see the exact moment where a new gen would've helped them, but I guess not allowing Anycolor to "dominate" the western male vtuber market was much more important.

>>51858526
I mean at the end of the day anon, no amount of what Fauna or someone else does will ever be able to offset near 20 hours straight of Kiara being sub 3k. There's only so many hours they can put in with decent averages, and Kiara will inevitably blow it up.
Also Ina going 3 weeks playing botw nonstop and doing the same thing. 7 hours a day at 6k is just awful for averages in a branch

>>51858621
It’s because faggot jannies will ban everything else as spam or advertisements but not this

Not even EN3 is going to save the ever-declining EN Vtuber industry

>>51858584
>How so? it kinda make sense to me
Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
There are other factors involved, among them lack of motivation, lack of incentives and clear goals set by the leadership and, IMO the most important, constant attrition of the long term audience

>>51858640
I mean its not a surprising outcome when you focus everything on jp and neglect en

>>51858671
Which is why average is silly, the median has been slightly steady upwards since April

https://youtu.be/skn9U0L-Tl0
Karubi my beloved

>>51858671
Absolute retard

>>51858615
it being on a fully female form is my justification for wanting to suck and be bukake'd

>>51858234
Absolute dogshit schedule. Not surprising. Imagine wasting no overlap week on a fucking barbie game and fucking sonic adventure

>>51858736
No, that's actually a sensible post explaining why the downward trend has continued.

>>51858526
Curious, Can you do ID?
>>51858704
>Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
It actually can if you factor in that there are only 9 people in that branch and half of whom are out of comission most of the time
If there were let say 35 members id agree but with that few people its not surprising

>>51858704
>>51858584
Homobegging faggots

>Homostar appears on enemy team in Valorant
>Writes a massive wall of text to her members explaining her meeting with her manager over it and its outcomes and what she'll do in future to avoid betraying the trust of her fans
Nene is the exemplar of what a Holo should be

>>51858749
You sir, are a vagina face

>>51858671
Kiara's floor and ceiling are not very different. She can barely get 4k with Minecraft now.

>>51858671
Dude most of them can't even get 10k with games like Minecraft anymore it's not just a Zelda thing. The audience is clearly shrinking if they can't get what they did a year ago even with buff content.

>>51858749
This may be hard to believe, but she probably doesn't care about min-maxing her numbers like this thread does

>>51858736 (me)
Replied to the wrong post
>>51858749

>>51858785

>>51858201
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU such consistent schedules.

>>51858710
You think if Yagoo cut a blank check to Gura she'd actually stream? You're delusional. EN is full of lazy whores they wouldn't want to work like the JPs even if they had the chance to hit the 3D studio every single week. Even Kiara is extremely slack compared to Miko, Koyori and Pekora.

>>51858858
Has Fauna ever gotten off to art of her in a cowkini?

>>51858819
current minecraft is a buff? i thought anon said that it wasnt since nobody is doing nothing new and that includes jp

>>51858785
alright i'm gonna need proof of this

>>51858900
ask her

>>51858376
Are there any ENs Towa didn't fuck? Gura maybe?

>>51858785
isreal?

>>51858245
>>51858391
is it the
>new boys new boys new boys
comment on homoen announcement?

More popular than all of Tempus. Kneel. I think he's the biggest Brazilian vtuber too.

>>51858785
I would kneel and kiss the unicorn shoe

>>51858770
2.7-3k average and he says a 7k average is doing the heavy lifting. Absolute retard. This is not even counting that exactly one year ago she could get 5k with windwaker which is near impossible no matter the game for her now. Obvious homobeggar. Same flip flopping schizo faggot thats spamming

>>51858892
I mean why would you want to stream when most of the opportunities are given to the jp members while you get little to no support not even a professional studio in your country

>>51858901
It's tourist content, it's always a buff. It's not just Minecraft though, blaming content choices like Zelda is dumb when even collabs with multiple members hover around the 10k mark (or lower if it's on Kiara's channel).

>>51858526
hm I wonder if something happened July 17, 2022...

>>51858892
You outed yourself as a homobeggar the other day, rope yourself.

>>51858785
So who is more schizo about faggots? Kanata or nene?

>>51858905
>>51858941
>>51858970
Check yesterday archives

>>51858900
There's a lot of art of her getting railed or fucking the other EN girls in the cowkini but I can't post it. So yeah, almost certainly.

>>51858847
I’ve never seen an actual retard try to steal my post

>>51858712
>the median has been slightly steady upwards since April
Definitely not true. Their median hit a career low of 5816 on April 13, and right now it is at 6234 (+418), having peaked in the period at 6809 on May 13.
It was upwards until May 13 and is down from that point.

That doesn't make much difference given that
>The current number is below the CCVID low which was 6474

>>51858819
???? Anon? Even JP is struggling with MC. The buff of it has worn off almost entirely.
Pekora had 2 sub 30k minecraft streams. In fact, her nintendo direct watchalong almost had more viewers than both minecraft streams…
It’s just not the “it” thing right now. Only Ina has shown considerable decline and, wow, guess what, she’s the one who spent an entire month playing botw that no one wanted to watch

>>51858892
Once again beggars proving that they're the biggest Hololive antis out there.

>>51858960
how would HoloBR/PT do?

>>51858900

>>51859038
She just posted another members post 2 hours ago, which is longer and talks about her meeting with her manager.

>>51858992
>It's tourist content, it's always a buff
not really since its getting subpar numbers even for jp like pekora since theres nothing going on

>>51858704
>Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
A full year of poor decisions/content or having your heavy hitters gone would. Without even touching the first part, Gura has been semi dead to outright dead the whole time, Ina went through various breaks until the actual health break and came back to do Pokemon, mostly solo Minecraft and Zelda, etc.
Not really anything to add, though. Same as ever we just need either EN3 or whatever is holding all these girls back to let them go and just fucking stream again, preferably both.

>>51858973
He literally says that no amount of Fauna streams will change anything. This is literally what you're saying. Why are you seething when you're in a agreement

You faggots report the fun schizos and leave the retards trying to astroturf while arguing with themselves.

>>51859135
Miko get shit number too, only slightly better than Pekora

>>51858785
on one hand I think that's excessive and didn't really need an apology but on the other hand I love submissive girls that will do naked dogeza before even being reprimanded

Are MC fans still mad about that chat moderation update?

>>51859029
>>51859105
>ur a homobeggar
Extremely ironic accusation given the reason EN is in the shitter because it's filled to the brim with homoniggers like Mori and Kronii

>>51859018
yeah, the girls started becoming lazy, if it wasn't for our Tempus boys the graph would look even grimmer

>>51859106
There is no BR/PT, the language is mutually intelligible but having a continental chuuba for the Brazilian market, or a BR one for the european market would be even more foreign sounding than an aussie chuuba for the north american market

>>51859129

>>51859191
Lol no they are more mad about the update being filler again

>>51858733
man, Korone's actually improving so fast, I'm proud of her

How's Botan doing?

>>51859066
I'm not saying it's much of anything, but the trend is up

>>51859163
1 it’s a stupid statement since her numbers are literally slightly less pitiful. 2 I’m not held accountable for how you choose to read my post I’m very measured it’s the internet

>>51859212
It's the day Tempiss got announced retard

>>51859106
Horribly. If for some reason Cover wants to target the region (which would be a big mistake) it's better to just hire someone bilingual for HoloEN. I think the wizard girl that debuted under Brave recently is exactly like that tho I have no idea if she's any interesting.

>>51859191
>Are MC fans still mad about that chat moderation update?
at this point nobody cares but minecraft numbers outside hololive actually havent been the same since the mojang ban thing which was implemented last year
also doesnt help that microsoft is gonna go after minecraft mods soon

>>51858733
ew cuck watching groomer

>>51859184
She shouldn’t have to apologize. The faggot HoloStar 3view should apologize and then promptly commit seppuku. It’s that simple.

>>51859216
Eh there's a bunch of Spaniards on twitch with huge mexican audiences.

>>51857890
Well you aren’t Chinese are you. Different cultures have different taboos.

>>51859212
the graph would be lower with tempus in it anon

>>51859131
Are homos now not allowed to use matchmaking in games that holos are currently playing?

>>51859314
I get it. Americans are afraid of salads (taboo) and Chinese are afraid of bug spray and ant traps (it’s taboo also)

>>51858626
Yeah, that makes it extremely obvious what happened. The two graphs were in lockstep until that point, then you can see the EN audience fleeing to JP like rats off a sinking ship

>>51859314
Isn't that why it's funny how the girls are freaked out by faggots and shit?
Specifically because they're from a different culture you should be more forgiving.
But I guess chinks are bugs, and women watching vtubers was always a fad

>>51859066
I mean, Gura is not streaming. I know it’s dumb to just say “they need streams with high peaks” but that’s literally how a median works. You can’t find yourself hitting a high midpoint if the streamer who elevates the median to begin with isn’t streaming.
Mind you, Gura for half of 2022 had a 20k median. Missing that is absolutely tremendous and will show on the graphs no matter what. If anything, it’s a fucking miracle that EN is holding on for however long they’ve had to. I’m certain if Peko/Miko both went on unannounced breaks for half the hear that holoJP would crumble down to new lows too

Reminder that homobeggars are the biggest holoantis, it's not even nijisisters.

>>51859266
she can take 3 dicks now though she still complains a lot

>>51859396
Get a green card

>>51859197
How high do you think the churn in this thread is? You spent an entire thread the other day calling the ENs lazy whores for not being able to get studio access while defending and deflecting from the homos never having that issue.
>>51643045
But keep at it, beggar.

>>51859308
In the same way Bae's target market is the North American one.
It makes sense for a one off but not to make a full branch of Bae / Sana targetting the wrong side of the market

>>51859448
>implying that 90% of homobeggars arent nijifags

>>51859389
Yes

>>51859461
kek

>>51859438
Gura is not streaming regularly since November 2022, it's eight months since them.
Whatever drop she would cause in the numbers would manifest right away and then, all other things being equal, it would remain stable and rise and fall with the numbers of the remaining girls

>>51859413
Homoslop only helps destroy long term interest in the Hololive Girl’s content. Also it makes sense to me to fuck off from EN after Tempiss, and even more after Tempoop. It’s clear that the people running EN are retarded and are purposefully missing the mark on what is actually, consistently popular and what people actually want to watch.

>>51859511
Nene based

>>51859448
Are homobeggars the ones shitting on korone?

>>51858526
There is a massive dip at the median point between top 5 and bottom 5 of EN whenever the usual tables get posted. If you cut 2 of the top 5 off, the median falls into the bottom 5. And this is just median, which is much less affected by outliers than true average. True average is virtually worthless in context

>>51859558
>algorithms and human behavior
>predictable

My wives

>>51859572
B-But the twitter trannies say they love homoshit and want more!

>>51859665
Who the fuck is that one on the start?

>>51859558
Smartest poster I’ve seen in a while

>>51859601
No but the ones defending her won’t watch her.

>>51859604
Homobegging faggot

>>51859572
>>51859668
i mean if you hates the homos so much then why dont you start doing what the schizo jps did to their homos so they get their lesson

>>51859601
shut up cuck

>>51859696
Kiara I believe

>>51859558
Anon December was literally full of karaokes and then started an entire offcollab arc in Japan. It wouldn’t show in an instant because buff streams were offsetting it and Kiara was being held off from streaming because she was overseas, so she personally didn’t get her chance to ruin anything

>>51859604
>>51859438
Both of these points were addressed before with the
>Hololive EN + Hololive EN un-deadbeated, un-chickened, max-sharked, max-tacod (>>46625351)
It had
>Gura and Ina 2021 streams "echoed" in 2022 (repeated as is, one year down the line)
>Mori and Kiara not existing at all

It had both those issues covered
>Mori and Kiara were not part of the chart
>Gura and Ina had their regular 2021 performances repeated in 2022 for argument sake
It doesn't change the trend. It might increase the absolute number but the overall trends remains the same.

as long as no 40k stream from vshojo or twitch chuuba, twitch tally faggot won't create that tally right?

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>>51859665
Kiara and Fauna leading Ina, Gura and Mumei in to the cgdct paradise. IRyS being tempted to look back like Lots Wife at Sodom, but she's still moving forward

>>51859779
Dont mind if i do

>>51859762
he'll ignore it like he ingored nijiens 40k

>>51859727
Go to a second world country to harass them yea that won’t put you on a list

>>51859788
>kiara

>>51859779
IM TRYING TOO

>>51859755
I'm not even sure he knows what a trendline or a slope is. You're going above and beyond here.

>>51859668
Twitter trannies are lazy, fat, retarded faggots who can barely show up to Homocollabs at best. Their “love” is lukewarm at best. The only thing they “love” is the idea of owning the incel/unicorn. Even if they “won” and turned Holo into some shitty Niji clone it would only be a cadmean victory over the ashes of what made Hololive most appealing to the viewers.

>>51859755
Jesas. That's as generous as you can possibly get and the line is still going down.

Shoto under virtualreal's mcn kek.

>>51859762
If you’re reading this you can ignore gura and even brag about iron mouse save me from this hell

>>51859755
The trend is necessarily going to be downwards, as that's the overall trend for EN vtubing, but it's far less grim and shitpost worthy, it's borderline stablised following mid December. Is there no updated graph for this?

>>51859755
You say that it doesn't change the trend, but the trend very clearly splits on March 9th.

>>51859572
tempiss collab ban early lift with that streak of collab, the management tweet that opened the door for all the hungry wolf that for almost 2 years ready to jump in and dictate the fandom with their wokeism was a cruel cocktail on a large subset of the fandom that just want some escapism coming back from work or like their neet style with their delusions. The past 10 years trained this subset to smell trouble from miles away and they just fuck off to the next entertainment avenue.
of course there are also dormant fans in hibernation awaiting for new dynamics to develop but the more time pass the less they are moved to jump back into the rabbit hole

>>51859762
From the looks of the thread that faggot is probably rimjob schizo and yeah he probably wouldnt the same way he ignored the nijien one since it ruins his narrative of small corpos and indies dominating

>>51859856
Yeah I know that but EN management listen to those twitter trannies to make major branch decisions, most likely because EN management are twitter troons themselves.

I would not be surprised in the least if nobody in EN management had the skills to properly analyze viewer data and they just decided to do the most common opinion they read on their twitter feed. EN management doesn't recognize a problem because they can't understand the metrics of the channels they're managing.

>>51859881
shhh dont point it out since it ruins chart anons narrative
also dont point out that for the nijijp chart he didnt put all of nijijp in ther

The fuck?

>>51859877
>>51859881
>>51859976
It’s down nearly 4k from the peak and March is the month of 3 en birthdays coming a day after Bae. Homobegging faggots

>>51859869
Which Virtual Real? Anycolor's?

>>51860006
kek., I'm actually starting to like Mysta

>>51860020
It didn't argue that it wasn't down you mong, I argued that the echo doesn't actually follow the real trend after March 9th, which it very clearly doesn't.

>>51859755
>but the overall trends remains the same
Read your own graph
The middle 6 are miles away from the CCVID low mentioned in >>51859066. They are a solid 2k above the CCVID low while the full branch is somehow below the CCVID low
Comparing to the 2021-11-21 pre-CCVID you highlighted, the middle 6 are at the same point (8154 vs 8116) compared to the full branch being below by nearly 3k
2021 Summer is buffed by debuts offset by a month, each with their own post-debut buff. Unlike Nijisanji, Hololive has always enjoyed post-debut buffs

>>51859881
>splits on March 9th.
That would be because of the peak in March 22 2022 (helped by Ina's Elden Ring) for the regular chart being echoed all the way into March 2023.
it would follow the recline of their numbers that happened until early May and, hence, return to the same trend as the not counterfactual one.

>>51859892
Everyone can’t he him unless you believe he bought the pass

>>51860006
Is this real??

>>51859869
whats the source of that?

>>51860006
he's been throwing shade at nijisanji for a while now and was supposedly one of the livers where false got his info on nijisanji from

>>51859973
EN management is running on a directive from HQ. HQ wants the homos to succeed and plan to use their momentum to prop up the JP stars. Cover's HQ has a doomed vision for Hololive that they have not come to terms with it not happening.

>>51860119
https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1671560625783177234

What if Fauna started doing sexy ASMR like JP girls?

Whatever the trends show, I think we can all agree that holo needs to debut Tempus3 fast, right?

>>51860100
How does it return to the same trend without deviating from the trend in the first place?

>>51860092
You are retarded that same trend matches the one under it they both make a M. It’s just steeper when you remove the shitters fire their birthdays. You’re dumb and blind no wonder you don’t support your homos can’t see the streams

>>51860099
Anon, all of that is covered at this sentence
>It might increase the absolute number but the overall trends remains the same.
The reason it remains above CCVID is because, in the counterfactual chart
>Gura and Ina never suffered from CCVID because their 2021 numbers got "echoed" in 2022
The overall trend remains the same even in the most generous reinterpretation of history possible

>>51860230
Nah, the closest thing to that was gura's one asmr from 2 years ago.
Either that or the cat asmr for poorfags.

>>51860006
>>51860119
>>51860150
>>51860183
ah according to sisters mysta is hosting it or something

>>51860157
Well now their slowly killing their second biggest market. I don't know how long their going to take to course correct but it is taking too long.

>>51860259
Everything you said implies the opposite conclusion