/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>51803665
Yes, nigger.

>>51803665
It was fucking great. Better than an Ame prototype stream or a drunken Mori brapping onstage.

>>51803665
Anti = Forever Loser

see you in three months for the next stream, make sure to keep that membership up and buy the merch piggy

>>51803665
This was the best EN birthday i've ever seen. Keep seething.

>>51803665
Yes
She was too busy to stream because she needed to record all those songs for her birthday and the upcoming concert
Not even joking, management thinks it's more important to do this prerecorded content than livestreams

Antis scream and whine but chumbuds never turned their backs on her. It's heartwarming and beautiful.

>>51803665
Well worth it imo! Feels good to be a Holochad instead of a Nijinigger.

I love this fucking shark.

>>51803995
Those are low bars

>>51803665
>>51804093
Repeat that. Without tears this time though

>>51804193
It is because I can go back and listen to the multiple times instead of just watching a stream once and never engaging with it again.

Nijiniggers are always losing.
The universe is in the right place.

>>51803665
See you in the next stream in 5 months Chudbuds

>>51803665
Totally worth it. My knees hurt.

that was just sad

>>51803665
No no no, you misunderstood. She spent those months for her newly promised 3D live. It's going to be jam packed.

QRD?
What is her excuse these times?

>>51804320
I can't, I'm sad that my oshi was reduced to a merch sponsor, most of the stream was prerecorded ffs

>>51804554
None
Didn't even address her absence

>>51804554
See >>51750211

>>51804554
She doesn't need an excuse, chud. Now buy the membership and the merch and she might give you another stream or two before the summer ends.

This stream confirmed that she's gonna go the Ayame route. Rare normal streams/collabs and event streams only.

I was once an anti, I once thought like them, I thought her numbers seemed unjustified and unearned, that she put in little effort and should stream more
This stream made me realize that Vtubers don't necessarily have to be streamers and that Gura doesn't have to stream(or tweet, that site is dogshit anyway). She's an artist and a visionary and that's part of what makes her unique. Streams are often just filler anyway and I'd rather have a Gura who focuses on her art than a Gura just putting in the hours because she has to or feels obligated to.

>>51804554
>>51804554
She did her usual uwu talk to her paypigs, shilled some merch, and fucked off until her next month's paycheck.

>>51803665
It was great.

>>51804665
proof?

>>51804193

Yet the rest of the talents can manage doing all that as well as streaming. Truly lazy cope there sister.

>>51803995
did.. did Mori actually fart on stage or am i too retarded to read shitposts

>>51805456
No you read that right

>>51803665
Yes and it’s good.

>>51805004
This anon has become completely lost in cope and I'm afraid he'll have to be shot

>>51805751
I think you'll need to cope with her being more relevant than your oshi sister.

>>51804834
And be the top earner of her branch while at it. She's eating good.

>>51805562
s-sauce please

>>51805751
Why made you become unhinged?

>>51804128
>Has never seen Bae's celebration

>>51805317
Just look at the stream, everything after that 2D showcase was Kanauru, Kanauru, Kanauru, Kanauru, and Kanauru.
She wanted more variety, she had prepared some rough content proposals after her Japan travel which she had to scrap because she's stuck with Kanauru for the production like every other EN members.

>>51807156
I honestly can't believe he's taken over to the point that the entirety of the fucking birthday was nothing but him, how the fuck did that happen

>>51804834
Ayame can atleast be a vtweeter most of the time, thats asking too much of Gura

>>51803665
How are you counting "all those months"? Her last stream was 3 weeks go.

>>51807156
none of this is proof that she's unhappy about Kanauru

>>51807246
Hint : Cost cutting

>>51803665
That was massively better than what i would have imagined the retired shark would put together.

>>51803665
Fro what I had watched, her singing voice was a bit robotic and altered, which ruined the experience. It didn’t even sound like it was her singing. But maybe it’s just that I remember the old Gura, and haven’t been watching in some time now. It almost seemed like Cover hired another singer to sing for Gura, and do a souless job at it.

>>51807318
he never said she was unhappy with kanauru, just that she wanted more variety with 3D Animated content instead of the same guy for all animations

>>51807715
if she wanted variety she's be unhappy about having the same guy for the nth time i guess

>>51807318
True, but she won't be able to publicly hint at it either to avoid her entire fanbase turning against Kanauru so she's just sucking it up.
Side note : This is Iroha's birthday stream just 2 days before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6JzdFFuvgQ
You would imagine most EN member want at least this level of glorious birthday stream instead of whatever that was.

>>51807715
you got variety though, she literally gave you an anime made by a real anime studio

>>51803665
Great Birthday stream.
Proud to be a chumbie.

It was really bad. Everything from the production to the singing even down to the zatsu segment and merch. 2/10 at best. The girl can't even sing well anymore. What the hell is happening to her? (I mean that in a genuine way) at this point she's giving me Nintendo Man vibes when his last public speech was done via puppets so people wouldn't know he was looking like the Emperor of Man on the thrown at the time.

Holoretards will take the bare minimum huh.

>>51807916
That video is much better by comparison

> not even actual 3D performance
lmao cuckbuds once again prove retarded since beginning

>>51807156
>Just look at the stream, everything after that 2D showcase was Kanauru, Kanauru, Kanauru, Kanauru, and Kanauru.
By what means do you determine when it's Kanaura and when it's Gura?

>>51808132
>The girl can't even sing well anymore.
Can someone explain this part to me. I haven’t watched Gura in a very long time, so I remember her old singing voice, and it used to be so much better than this current garbage. This just didn’t sound like it, probably I assume because the voice is being altered so much to get a specific or cleaner sound? It just sucked.

I don't care enough to watch the stream, but wanna know what's going on.. did she even have a totsu?

>>51807843
Gura wants to try different animators for her 3D content. Kanaeru has been doing 90% of the 3D shit for all of EN.
>>51808031
But thats 2D. She literally has a treasure trove of people willing to do 2D animations like DuDuL and 2ManySnacks

>>51805004
>She's an artist and a visionary and that's part of what makes her unique.
uuuh yeah no, but if she continues doing streams with this quaility then yeah she's become more of an idol

She sounded drunk

>>51808708
many are saying this

>>51803665
If there was any hope of me being an anti, it died with Red Gura doing Treasure Box

Gawr Gura is the Donald Trump of vtubers.

>>51808500
Can you really not recognize his samey style by now after he's been in everything?

>>51808708
She said she was too nervous before the stream

>>51805004
>the anon who got cucked to death

her singing segments are really badly mixed and I noticed that in treasure box the rhythm of her singing is too square (instead of swinging the beat of the original melody she sticks too hard on the 4/4 beat), and she goes weirdly out of tune in the chorus which is unusual for her since she's proven she has a very good musical sense.. if this actually ends up being an AI Gura I wouldn't be surprised

>>51808500
Not really about determining when it's Kanauru and when it's Gura, but determining when it's Kanauru and when it's someone else making it.
You see 3D scenes with unnatural template shaky camera, characters with smooth-y movements, unnecessary amount of bloom (glow), and 30 FPS capped animation, that's most likely Kanauru.

>>51803995
This. I'd rather get three streams a year than get daily Ame/Mori-quality streams.

>>51809504
there's more than those 2 options, you know?

>gave absolutely no explanation or elaboration on her ghosting
>read a discord group project
>showed an op she paid someone else to make
>did 1 (one) live karaoke song
>4 prerecorded covers
>shills merch (and of course there’s limited merch, she doesn’t have time to stream but she does have time to sign 1000 cards, don’t worry about it)
>fucks off without any mention of when she will stream again.

The fact that this shitshow satiated any chumbuds at all is baffling, they truly enable her

>>51809658
Weekly tweets could be a good project too

>>51803665
Yeah, she had to make and fund like five times amount of shit for this much to slip past the management's attempts to block her

>>51809667
>gave absolutely no explanation or elaboration on her ghosting
The fact you think this is a legitimate point is enough reason for me to ignore everything else you say.

>>51809667
>why didn't she animate everything herself instead of spending her money on things for her fans
Bizarre post. Antis are running on fumes here.

>>51809940
I refuse to believe that this is a genuine post

>>51807156
Kanauru needs to fuck off and let Gura be herself.

>>51808407
> not even actual 3D performance
She confirmed in the stream that it is coming.
While fans in other agencies are still waiting on that 'postponed' AR to this day.

>>51807156
Cover just built a new studio. Relax.

>>51810040
They've literally become a parody of themselves. I would feel sorry for them if I didn't find it so amusing.

>>51810040
I'll assume you're being genuine because you never know. No one expects her to animate the thing herself, but paying a studio to make something like that should not keep you so occupied that you can't even tweet to engage with your audience while you are not streaming.

>>51810105
Yes and that's one of the exact excuse their management told her
"Sorry, but our staff still need to adapt with the new equipments. Kanauru will do for now."

>>51809940
You do realize "not streaming" and "ghosting" are not the same, right?
There's nothing wrong with taking as many breaks as you want. Promising you're gonna do something, being a no-show, and only reappearing on payday (a payday which hinges on your fans supporting your "career") is not the same.

>>51809940
You are what we call brainwashed. Cope harder. Your oshi hates you and her job

>>51809940
You're right, she doesn't have to explain the fact, at least she gave clear expectations for the futu- oh wait she didn't do that either

>>51810232
>>51810246
Why even bother posting if you can't read? If she's ever going to address the issue, why do it on her birthday? Who wants that? Well, other than antis because it'll spoil the mood, of course. Too bad you didn't get your backlash, huh?

>>51809940
big oomfies paypiggy, you're getting destroyed by the other anons. maybe you should strap a dildo to your dino-gura and start fucking it so you can enjoy the good dicking she gives you all on a regular basis

>>51810474
You should update your lines, NPC.

>>51810246
Fauna was right for setting boundaries, otherwise you get blindly obsessive retards like most of the chumkeks. It's saddening that so many people have no self respect.

>>51810391
>why do it on her birthday?
when else would she do it? her last stream was 3 weeks ago, and a big bulk of her audience would have been on this stream so it sounds like a good chance to update people on that kind of stuff

>>51805004
You're either smoking cuck copium very hard or just realized that you can't sit through your own oshi streams and prefer short format content instead.

>>51810532
Not on her birthday. Again, I know you're seething mad she denied your obsessed ass red meat again. It's just not happening. Stay angry.

>>51805004
>focused on her art
Sad kek. Her singing was rough

>>51810600
If she had a birthday event prepared with fun content for everyone, a bit of a reality check at the start wouldn't have hurt anyone. Now, if the birthday event was barebones, something like that would sour the mood of the rest of the stream, I agree there.
Also, I have no idea what the hell you mean with red meat, but I only see one person angry in this exchange, chumbud.

>>51808506
either she's got nerves or out of practice who knows but the magic isn't there

>>51812217
I'm going to say stress is to blame for the live song, and the 3D prerecorded videos were fake gura ai, that's why there's no magic

>>51804193
Surely she can manage a few streams between recordings of her 3 lines for the SachiHappy song

>>51806326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TxDOLOzTdE&ab_channel=dolpe

>>51803665
oh nyo ?

>>51810105
given cover's regular ineptitude I expect the studio to be ready just before en's concert, like a few days before at best

>>51805004
This is a new level of cuckoldry

>>51807156
Kanauru was probably brought in because Gura is either not well enough to travel or couldn't be assed to. Almost a year ago, Kiara made it a point to go to Amelia's studio to make a full, 3D live concert like what most of Hololive does.

It's funny. I thought I would have felt something. Excitement, anger, happiness, or anything at all but I just felt nothing after watching it. I think that's the most damning thing about it. After her not streaming for so long, I just went, "okay" and watched someone else. I don't know if that means it was mid or if I'm just done with Gura until she actually gives half a shit again and even then, I think I'm just straight up done.

wow gura's birthday stream!
>70% gura
>30% kanauru
wtf

>>51805004
I get what you mean. Gura wants to be a virtual idol, not a virtual streamer. That's why she changed her description to say idol, not because of Tempus and idol culture, but because she wants to sing, dance, do concerts, be a literal idol.

>>51821890
A lot of it is probably just that she didn't really feel "there" if you know what I mean. It felt more like she was talking AT us than to us for the short streamtime we had

>>51803665
Cancel your fucking membership and stop watching her its that simple, you fags keep supporting her lazy shit attitude so shes never going to change

>>51821890
It was pretty mid. Singing was bad, kanaru puppet show for the thousandth time, merch was meh, no call ins, Anime OP was cool but not enough to justify the absences.

>>51822187
She wants to be an idol. But a literal idol. A figure of reverence and devotion, to whom people from all around the world pray to and give money and gifs as offerings. She will soon leave the mortal realm and become an immutable and eternal entity, probably fuse her stream of consciusness into the internet and become a God among VTubers. Her existence will have the sole purpose of having anons kneeling before her and giving her money as a true idol, an icon, a Messiah.

She still won't stream tho.

>>51822187
>>51822800
I get what you mean but that's a hard excuse to swallow when there are girls like Bae and Mori that do both and put an insane amount of effort in

>>51810068
>Assuming that Gura actually wants to do any of it herself
LMAO

>>51805004
The least cucked /vt/ user. I would agree with you here buddy but one singular original song in your career is not being an artist. At least Mori writes her own lyrics. Gura just throws money at so called projects and rarely even deliver.

>>51805004
Literally all Gura has to her name as an "artist" is one lukewarm orisong that not even her fans like.

>>51804347
>Muh Nijiniggers
Is this really the only defemse you Chumkeks have?

>>51822947
>Bae and Mori

>>51805004
>This stream made me realize that Vtubers don't necessarily have to be streamers
I can get behind this idea in theory. But it's still a shitty excuse until I see these "projects".
I don't really care about her streaming anymore, I just wonder WHY the absence and why so much secrecy around it. It's mind-boggling.

>>51822947
Gura is quality over quantity. Mori and bae streams are steaming shit compared to gura's streams

>>51823458
Yeah the monotone prerecorded singing was peak quality

>>51823458
Sadly the only thing that had quality was the animation she showed, the rest was mediocre at best

As a European the stream was at 2am for me. I almost fell asleep during her discord circlejerk birthday present which was incredibly boring.
The came her terrible singing and I turned the stream off to go to bed.
Can someone explain to me what happened that made this stream so great?

>>51823458
I really don't know how you can say this given the amount of energy and effort those 2 alone put into their streams which they still do consistently while grinding their idol reps hard

>>51823458
>Gura is quality
Saying that after that low effort stream is why cuckbuds are the laughingstock of the board

>>51823871
Most people actually enjoy the effort and see her for what she truly is.. an entretainer. Thats why they enjoy her and dont just act like assholes being cynical and overly critical about everything.

>>51823871
What is the point in participating in things you don't like?

>>51826252
Of where? You and a couple in vt? This platform is a parody to mock schizos and unicorns going insane vt by no means represent the vast VAST majority of fans.

>>51804193
>management thinks it's more important to do this prerecorded content than livestreams
this is actually unironically true and it's so stupid and counterproductive, it's like the company doesn't understand that most modern chuubas are seen as streamers first and foremost

>>51803665
I got a little excited when she was about to sing Out of Control but when started singing I got disappointed, she sounded like she was sedated or some shit… is she going the rockstar rute and started using drugs or something?

>>51804193
>JP does the same thing still streams
So you are saying JPs are just superior?

Yes, I love goombus

>>51803665
So if these 4 prerecorded covers were her secret projects that took up all her time, that would make it even fucking worse.
Obviously the animation gets outsourced, and the mocap is probably done by an actress.
So that leaves the singing part for her, which was extremely underwhelming and sounded like something that could have all been recorded in a day.

I just looked up the merch.
>tablet case (kinda cool I guess)
>2 small drink glasses
>very very small plushie
>cable tie
>postcard
you simps payed over 100$ for that? WHAT? you deserve everything you get!

>>51803997
is that your cope to deflect criticism?

i watched the stream, im sorry but it sounds like she's so out of it

>>51809757
Woah! Parasocial alert! Are you trying to work her to death?!
[That hurt to type]

>>51803665
>months
*15 days

>>51822338
>Cancel your fucking membership and stop watching her its that simple,
I agree if don't like Gura, it's that simple. OP complaining even without membership.
btw, Gura gained 900 memberships in that stream alone.

>>51821796
Kiara is a JP in EN clothing. You can't judge the others by the standards she sets.

>>51827309
Made me want more Rock Gura. Hope she does more soon.

>>51828550
>Kiara is a JP in EN clothing
t. doesn't know any Japanese.

>>51828627
I meant in regards to work ethic and passion for her job. She'll be coughing blood and still streaming.
The others only know scroll tiktok, watch dragshows, order uber eats and lie.

I like Gura but chumcucks are so fucking whipped it isn't even funny.

>>51803665
why, yes

Last night everything felt so tone death. It felt like a pre recorded stream. Unless it actually was a pre recorded stream.

>>51827873
With the cable tie they'll be able to tie up their gura pillow and fuck it if they haven't already.

>>51830781
Thought so too until the end when she noticed the limited edition merch was already sold out because cover leaked the link again.
But still means there was essentially no audience interaction.

Gura is genuinely just very busy. The parasocial/down bad energy for Gura or saying she's going to graduate is not real. She's just genuinely busy and probably with more than she let's on. Goomba is ok and it was a great stream with a lot of gifts for us the fans, let's just support her moving forward!

>>51833187
With what?

>>51828521
I wonder if any of them will even get a member's stream before it expires.

>>51835831
Drinking

>Gura couldn't stream or post on twitter or be active in any way because she was so busy!!!!!!
>all she has to show is one stream, one music video, 1 live song, and some prerecorded covers.
Suisei streams more than her, is active on twitter, has a radio show, and regularly appears on an NHK TV program, all while being an actually active, real musician/artist constanty practicing, producing new music, new videos, multiple elaborate and well done live shows even in front of a live audience, and collaboriting with other talented musicians like Taku Inoue. So I don't really know how Gura has an excuse here.

>>51836299
Yeah but Gura’s tummy hort though

>>51836299
Everyone has a different rythm, there's no point in compairing.

>>51826903
>Most people actually enjoy the effort
but she puts the least effort out of anyone in her branch

Trying to get chumbuds to say it wasn’t great is like asking a super marvel fan if marvel had duds or isn’t peak cinema. Won’t happen because they’re too far gone to see anything else.

>>51839453
anon, even their split was saying it was mediocre

CUNNY I KNEEL

>>51839636
This isn't even true

>>51827414
was that ever up for debate?

>>51804093
I left. Its actually over. I'm done with vtubers.

>>51846277
Yeah yeah we heard that like a million times see you tomorrow

>>51847031
if you see me tomorrow it will be as a shitposter, not a viewer

>>51805004
>the company you work for paying external artists to make shit for your lazy ass
>artist
No

>>51847138
not likely

>>51830829
not that kind of cable tie. kek. so that is a hard no on that idea.
you see, gura fucks their wallet. they don't fuck anything.

>>51805004
Even the Interns in the thread are laughing at you but sucks to suck hard

>>51805751
Don't worry anon, you're making perfect sense

Join me and the Shlong Gang, we're plowing everyone's Oshi and Mother raw to increase birthrates

They love getting cucked anyway

So, if the drunk comments aren't true, why the fuck was she so nervous during the stream? She's done it for years, had breaks before, had shitposters use her before. What's the difference this time?

>>51853352
Take a wild guess

>>51803665
I liked it

>>51855185
Gura got sick?

>>51828468
>I've been vegetarian for years now, I just eat a whole cow once a month to avoid stop being vegetarian
>I've been out of drugs for years now, I just snort a whole brick once a month to prevent relapsing
>My oshi works really hard to give us constant content, she only streams once a month because she cares about us
I used to be a chunbud, you guys are just blindly retarded now, she is graduated already, only kept around because she is the biggest in the industry, just like Schwarzenegger's name is still used in the movie industry tho it can't do good shit anymore

Gura out there, going "if Ketamine is so bad, why did YODA use it?!?" and her manager is like, "why can't you just be a coke fiend like Kiara?!?"

>>51804093
man, how long until more and more girls take the memo and do the same?

Imagine miko/pekora/subaru all going low activity, that's the end of hololive.

>>51853352
She felt guilty

Every time I give an EN a chance it's some trash like this and people are acting like it was actually good. For me it was genuinely terrible. I will never understand her popularity

>>51863591
What's weird to me is that people are so pumped about this dispite the fact that she legit did nothing with any other one of her coworkers. Look at just about any other Birthday celebration and you'll see them celebrating with others, doing goofy shit, having fun with other members. Some of the real fun in Hololive comes from doing shit with other members and a birthday is a perfect time to really showcase that. Instead, she decided to do a solo stream, and even memed and had a song with herself. It's wild.

>>51827873
i instantly bought it without even looking at what it was
u mad

>>51863591
>>51864936
retard

>>51805004
This, she was on top of the game just uploading videos she wants.

>>51822800
Gura wants to be an idol without doing any of the sacrifices that comes with being an idol. She's just a self entitled lazy whore.

>>51862776
I just wonder how the JPs have more work ethic than Gura does. I wonder if its due to cultural differences, the JPs being closer together in a smaller country so they have a better support network, the fact that they probably have better diets or exercise more and don't live in mold-infested squalor, or what.
Like I wouldn't mind Gura rarely streaming if it meant a better experience, but for her birthday she stumbled singing Stay With Me compared to nailing it back in 2020. And then she just showed a bunch of pre-recorded music vids and just vanished like that.

>>51824145
It's shitposters and people who are so obsessed with their Oshi that they can't see negatives.
I've never been a fan of Mori, but she always has been a group girl and while there was a stint of her really pushing for shit outside of Hololive, she's refocused a lot.
That being said, the more 'casual' fans of vtubing or Hololive know Gura/Gura's face more than anyone else in the EN sphere, and so most people flock to her first and stay there. The issue is with her not streaming much, when new people who learn about her/get interested in her show up and see almost no streams or videos, they're just not gonna stick around with no content. She's still got a decent chunk of people who pop in every time she streams because it's a habit for them as well as general 'hololive fans' who will watch whoever is live, but she won't be able to get any real new blood.
>>51868054
That's what I don't get. You can go back and watch her unarchived karaokes and hear her enthusiasm and her nerves pushed her to do better. Now they just make her do way worse. No one will ever know why she suddenly cut her streaming hours to a 4th of what she was doing. At some point if she's you're co-worker, you kinda just gotta accept she used to put in effort and that she happened to be in the right place at the right time.

>>51864994
no problems here. money is just moving from one retard to another slightly more cunning retard (and the company that backs her). the shark eats the chum, and no actual human beings were harmed kek

>>51868440
Gura got tired of acting like she belongs in Hololive and is hanging out with Bella Delphine again. She is aiming to get another gig started with her. This is why she stopped putting in effort in Hololive, she wants a different audience.

it's crazy how bad the songs were like what the fuck she used to be good at singing like all her old karaokes mog this shit

did they actually do it the first take style except gura showed up hung over with zero rehearsing

I had to stop the new song quickly holy fuck that's bad.

As a comparison, this is the schedule for the week of Nyanners birthday.

>>51869107
Just remember this was 2 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOsZTUpJ5Y
It's not perfect, but there's so much more emotion/feeling in her voice.

>>51869826
That's.... Koyori, anon,

>>51803665
You people sure do switch bait fast

>>51812513
>the 3D prerecorded videos were fake gura ai, that's why there's no magic
Probably.

>>51805004
Nigga thinks she Kanye

>>51805004
Easy there bucko, Gura isn't the next Bruno Mars, she hardly has enough music to her name to fill an official EP.

>>51872567
Gura is the next Amy winehouse minus the music

>>51853352
Sweating bullets hoping the baby won't wake up and start crying.

>>51821890
It means we are moving on, brother. There is nothing entertaining about a streamer who doesn’t stream. And no I don’t care about her period music releases, music videos, animations, and so on. First and foremost (to me) she is a streamer who’s lost the will to stream. Can’t really be hyped for that. Especially if she’s waiting nearly a month at a time to go live.

Chumbuds your reaction if Gura is Belle Delphine using a voice changer.

>>51812513
I would actually believe this

She really sucked $9,000 out of you guys in 1 hr, that is impressive, I respect the hustle