/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

when your meds ran out

when september ends

>>5177390
Remove the chicken & 5% or it will be a pile of hot stinking garbage by the end of September.

>>5177390
Kys nijinigger

>>5177583
>Kys nijinigger
I dont care much about nijiJP since holoJP is still superior in terms of idol-like and not diluting the brand.

I'm talking about the comparison between holoEN and nijiEN right now. tell me which do you think looks better at this moment?

>>5177390
>I initially started watching hololive and hololiveEN because they were freeflowing and not restricted like nijis
Where the hell do you get this narrative? Everyone and their newfag mothers know that Nijisanji is the most laissez-faire company among big corpos.

>>5177390
This whole ordeal make me wonder how other agencies will handle such a situation?

If two talents wanted to collab but the fanbases absolutely hated each other, should you allow the talents to collab?

How would you guys handle it?

>>5178070
>fanbases
/vt/ schizos are not an entire fanbase

>they introduced mystery collabs to avoid criticism to those unlikable personalities
Considering your idea of 'criticism' is death threats and doxx, I don't fucking blame them. They also know that /vt/ is full of retarded schizos who will complain about literally everything they do, so they don't actually give a single fuck what you think.

>>5178070
I don't think both og the fanbases both hate each other in this case do they? It's just a vocal minority of hololive fans that hate vshojo. I don't think there are any nyanners fans harrasing her because they don't want a collab with hololive.

>>5178184
>death threats and doxx
what? actual members complained about these collabs. are you from plebbit who speaks in hyperbole to defend your arguments?

>>5178070
I don't think the issue here is that the fanbase hates each other, reddit-san, even though it's true that they clearly do to some extent.
I think that OP's point is about criticism recognition and the two's group's differing degree of will to adapt.
If they want to collab, then they should do whatever they want but need to understand that it will impact the future even if that impact is minuscule at first.

>>5177390
good, go back to /jp/

>>5178070
you can look at non vtubers for comparsion every collab with 2 communities fighting eachother resulted in good content and growth for both parties in 99% of the cases, in short theey should allow it , no true fan is gonna leave for 1 collab and some new fans might get in

>>5177390
>>5177390
Nijisanji English is a thing? What the fuck? Why didn't I hear anything about it until now? Can you link their channels?

>>5178184
We are not the ones running multimillion view dox channels Cover does nothing about. Good collabs like the one with Pikamee don't get any hate so no, not literally everything they do invites criticism. I do believe that the certain two think they are hot shit who don't need no filters. What else can one expect from vapid failed e-celeb wannabes?

>>5178492
Pikamee openly said she would like to have sex with kids. How is she any better than Nyanners?

both the nijiEn and takamori are in the least boring and at many times annoying; and also desperate for their shit collabs which will ruin their fanbases even more; not to mention their characters:
>egirl lgbt queen
>brapfish susus
>saviorbait fairy
>the 5%
>annoying orange

meanwhile, trinity is actually the side who is the most neutral and chill, despite living in the west (the irony)

>>5178468
There's a Nijisanji EN thread here on /vt/, all the links are there

>>5178588
Wtf, Pika is based?

Imagine making a thread to try and sell NijiEN

How much is Anykara paying you to shill for them?

>>5177733
>superior in terms of idol-like
Found the idol buta. You're the reason Coco graduated, so just swiftly kill yourself before you get any more schizo to start stalking and kidnapping your "idols"

>>5178070
These 2 are correct >>5178157 >>5178218 You can look at the twitter replies to the announcement and they're overwhelmingly positive. There's less than a dozen schizos replying with hundreds of retweets and thousands of likes. /vt/ is irrelevant at large and puffs itself up to look more important because otherwise they'll be forced to admit everything they've fought for matters jack shit to non-schizos.

>>5178613
Why Holobronies like this? Making bullshit story about vtubers they never watch. Even worst, someone believes in this bullshit.

>>5178798
Holofags have to resort to lying, very sad

>>5177390
You forgot to mention NijiEN already had an international collab with ALL it's branches and it was fun has hell. The difference between company-chosen participants and livers being the ones making the decision is like day and night.

>>5177390
>hesitant about coco until she graduated
Stopped reading here. Holo en and coco all but confirmed management was cock blocking them on this collab.

>>5178157
>entire fanbase
>entire
You don't need the entirety of the fanbase, you don't even need most, half or even a quarter to cause a ruckus.
>>5178218
Vshojo-only fans don't hate Hololive but they do hate the fanbase.
>>5178387
>2 communities fighting eachother resulted in good content and growth for both parties in 99% of the cases
Those were caused by the creators staging 'fake beefs'.

>>5177390
>not collabing with JP senpais
did you miss the block management put on EN from interacting with JP girls outside of a few approved interactions?
>collabing with westerners
yeah that's what happens when your pool of people to collab with is 5 and you're blocked from the entire JP and ID side of the company for months
>gatekeeping, diluted
you are delusional, you are a loser nobody online you have no claim to anything related to hololive, you have no recourse to anything other than to fuck off and let everyone else enjoy it without your crying

It's quite interesting to see, I agree on the fact that to not face critisism they hide their collabs, being an entertainer is a job of giving fans what they want, or else you lose fans. I'm not saying they can't collab with those people, but being afraid of critism is for pussies who can't handle it. Accept the shit talk and move on with the collab, they must be afraid of their manager getting mad at them for losing subs or getting too much dislikes.

Anyway, you can see Calli and Kiara in particular from EN are trend-riders and are hypocrites to critism, just like Nyanners is, she shit talked her fanbase and now comes back expecting everyone to forget about her comments and love her loli vtuber image. Calli with her collabs with trashtaste people cus they're weeb popular, and Kiara with her trying to just dick ride popular stuff.

All Im saying is accept critism, it shouldn't stop you from collabing, but making these 1 day before collab announcements is a pussy thing to do. I don't care about the collab cus itll never go with JP branch.

>>5177390
>>not collabing with JP senpais until coco graduated
already wrong, stopped reading there

>>5177390
Take your meds faggot

>>5178738
>puffs itself up to look more important
they added mystery collabs and removing disliked with the help of YT because of us.
so either we have some effect or the above things didnt happen

>doesn't have to hide her collab partner behind "mystery" because it's one people actually like

>>5179068
>because of us
this is the same self-important shit that made people hate the gamergate retards
no, you are not having an effect, you are an annoyance and are tripping automated systems meant to handle levels of spam and hate that you can't even muster
you will be ignored, you will throw a tantrum, it will have no effect and you will leave, 3 people will join to replace you and no one will care especially the streamers or hololive

>>5177733
You understand that holoEN dying only exists in this boards head right? Their video's are all doing as good as ever

>>5179068
They added mystery collab because people on twitter are annoying, 90% of their communities either do not care or are positive

>>5177390
also the fact that elira pendora is 100% the BEST envtuber in the game right now

>>5179302
>ENVtuber
>half her streams are in japanese

>>5179302
I'm a bigger Pomu fan, myself.

>>5177390
NijiEN is doing so good, I feel bad that they are declining.

>>5179206
>made people hate the gamergate retards
>comparing corporation backed gamergate to people voicing criticism about slippery slope
tranny, please

>>5179104
But Reddit liked that she's collabing with Nyanners, the thread has 17k likes there.

>>5179570
>slippery slope
>tranny
you have to go back, election tourist

>>5179746
>supports trannies
>ignores slippery slope
>election tourist verbiage from bunkerchan
its obvious who are the new ones, discord trannies
back you go and remember you will never be a woman

>>5179302
Has she sung anything from drakengard yet?

>>5180101
lmfao touch grass before you permanently rot your brain any further

>>5180152
>touch grass
>another twitter sjw vocabulary
you cant fit in 4ch. you just cant because without censorship, you get exposed very quickly

>>5180152
an anon actually tried this the other day

>>5179660
Why do you fucking know? And why do you fucking care?

>>5177733
>idol-like
you can literally watch Noel give a mic a blowjob with her tits out.

>>5179660
Reddit also ignores that EN blacklisted Coco for a year, what does that tell you.

>>5179302
Please don't tell the board about Elira, her streams are good and the chat is so comfy.

>>5177390
Anon the Niji fish is going to collab with Vshojo tranny. EN as a whole is just a mistake

>>5177390
>not collabing with JP senpais until coco graduated
Oh you mean besides all those collabs with JP holos that happened well before Coco said she was graduating?

>>5177390
i like how you struggled to find any actual positives in nijien and eventually gave up

>>5179104
god inafags are so obnoxious

>>5180397
Ore wa rejitto da! The girls care about r/hololive so I do as well.
>>5180540
It tells me that they're not quick in jumping to conclusions about what's happening behind the scenes. This a problem between them and Coco.

>>5180672
>i like how you struggled to find any actual positives
how is "no mystery collabs" and "respecting the trust of your fanbase" not positives?

>>5180628
no, EN vtubers are good you're just a contrarian weeb

>>5180628
Finana is based, she tries to be innocent but constantly fails at hiding her lewd powerlevel

>>5180628
Who is the tranny btw? Zen? the dude?

>>5180697
>inafags
Please remove yourself tourist, perferably from existence, but at the very least from this thread and board

>>5178984
Agreed mori and kiara are trend seekers. Bitches desperate for more followers and viewers. If they didnt appeal to the sad fucks who want someone who is as cringey as them they wouldve had no fanbase.

>>5180799
>no u
damn I feel so owned right now

>>5177390
>Muh NijiEN is so good bro. No drama as I know.
Yeah, for now. As you know of. And there's only 3 of them for now. Just tell me you don't actually know Japanese and don't follow other Nijisanji branch.
Stop doing this narrative about "Nijisanji totally so different and has different kind of fanbase compared to Hololive"
90% of NijiEN fans are HoloEN fans too. Half of their chat has Holo profile picture. Some even has KFP in their username.

>>5181202
>Yeah, for now
that's all I need
I like it until they dont become vapid attention seekers who avoid criticism.

>Just tell me you don't actually know Japanese
I'm comparing holoEN and nijiEN, dont try to deflect to nijiJP or holoJP, tranny

>>5180478
I am going to need the source for this, as I wish to take out my fat cock and jerk it to it.

>>5181202
So NijiEN fans are not annoying Holofag tribalists, and are actually people who like vtubers regardless of agency? Oh no, that sounds terrible

>>5181376
it's actually refreshing to watch a stream and every 2nd comment isn't YABE

>>5178588
No she hasn't. Do you have to stretch the truth Luffy style to make your point?

>>5181277
A schizo called me a tranny. What an achievement.
I'll wait for your breakdown and your thread when NijiEN had drama in the future.

>>5181376
Kek, he doesn't know

>>5177390
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>>5178070
>>5178287
>>5178468
>>5178922
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>>5178999
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>>5179302
>>5179528
>>5180628
>>5180667
>>5180672
>>5181202

I'm Pomu.

>>5181574
You’re nice, stay of 4chan

>>5181376
No it's not terrible. I ain't saying it's a terrible thing. But it's to show how premature OP conclusion is.
Also, I think most of the overlapping fan who are regular in NijiEN chat actually are the fans who still haven't found their 'oshi' yet and widening their stream watching to find it.

>>5181574
wtf is that true

>>5181574
Pomu??
You're more interesting as Mint anyway

>>5181574
le ebig reply to everyone meme haha :DDDDDD

>>5178983
>did you miss the block management put on EN from interacting with JP girls outside of a few approved interactions?
How is this contradicting OP's point? He's criticizing the direction of the branch, which obviously includes management decisions.

>>5180152
>>5180294
What fucking insult is "touch grass"?
Is this zoomer speak for "go outside"?

>>5181376
I saw someone refer to Gura as shit shark and being generally salty she dared to stream in her usual schedule and mog Fina and Pomu in views

>>5178588
Ah, I see, Pika is based.

I'm team china, fuck these stupid company wars, as bad as shit like marvel vs DC

>>5182092
fuck you faggot.
"kinda like Marvel and DC" china and jews own hollywood fucking retard

>>5181202
>KFP in their username.
KFP are probably the most loud saviorfaggots from all EN fanbases.
There is always a high chance to find a bunch of KFP named users on some english vindies with more than 500 live viewers on youtube.
I've even seen some jp ones on jp indies and some mid tiers nijis.

>>5178588
Based

>>5180152
>sjw tranny
You lose, now go back

>>5178235
Look at the state of the board, do you even need to ask?

>>5181202
Hololive promotes an image of a tight-knit group with shared values and enjoys a great deal of success attracting people who are into these values and don't want anything else. It's understandable that their hardcore fans expect the talents to abide by certain conventions. In return they are a high engagement audience and tend to hakooshi the entirety of Hololive when they aren't having a biweekly meltdown about periods and shit.
Meanwhile these days most Nijisanjifags don't care about livers other than their oshi and their units. That means that tens of thousands of people won't tune in into literal who costume revelas or what not from five devices just because the talent has the brand tag but you also don't get Hoshikawafags policing Toko and vice versa. Laissez-faire approach is a corporate value even if shitty company Anykara fucks up sometimes. Most of the chimp outs come from autsitc fans imagining that someone crossed their oshi. Overseas branches are mostly free from this because they aren't big enough to accumulate the critical mass of autism.
I won't argue which way is superior and who is the biggest schizo of them all but how in the world are the fanbases not different?

>>5178588
dangerously based

Let me tldr it for da lazyfucks

>holo : close group, limited game options, strong branding
>niji : disunited livers, flexible content, filtered fanfags per oshi

>>5182211
Maybe some will go to whoever is the runt of holoen2.

>>5184488
>Most of the chimp outs come from autsitc fans imagining that someone crossed their oshi
Is this what happened with 3k dislikes in Chihiro Nijipex stream.
lmao

>>5180152
faggot

>>5184707
Most of those are from outside of the vtuber community, but yeah, there are tons of people who think that Chii-chan fucked over their oshi while organizing it.

>>5184786
Mansanji got beat for once and they turn on each other

>>5180478
>mic blowjob
I want to hear Noel give her KU100 a paizuri so i can fully immerse myself into having my brain titfucked by her, i won't settle for anything else

>>5185227
They have been turning on each other since before Hololive started inclining and they will be turning on each other after Hololive buries itself under the weight of retardedly unreasonable expectations the talents are struggling to keep up with.
Also, imagine failing to sell ambiguously-not-gay dudes to fujos.

>>5180478
>with her tits out
I have yet to see a single nipple

>>5177390
>not collabing with JP senpais until coco graduated
But they all did, like in the very month they could.

You know, what I find weird about threads like this is not that you're full of shit, lying from your ass as much as you want. It's how people are just willing to believe it. It's a strange image Nijisanji fans want for themselves.

>>5185777
OP does not represent the views of nijisanji fags.

>>5179370
Yeah, that makes her better.

>>5185918
no he does

OP has some sort of autism. Who the fuck cares this much about a nothing burger

>>5178984
>>5181014
Mori clearly takes criticism to the heart though and she even talked about it her members stream today. And stop this old as rrat that Mori is a trend seeker that has been killed long time ago.

>>5186116
Takes critisism to heart, wtf does that even mean lol. She been crying about randos shit talking her, or actual talks about how she wants to better herself in some way. And they are fucking trend seekers. The trashtaste thing, her collab with that dude. POS wants more fans and tries to take em from more popular people. She is not good at rapping and is bad at streaming unless you want cringey non ironic weeboo trash. Which a lot of people do, sad but true. Gura and Ame are true streamers. Coco is a true streamer but when she collabed with her it was noticeable someone was carrying the fucking collab on her back.

Listen my dude, I dont even watch her shit, Im not even subscribed. Gura, Ame, Ina are the only ones in EN I like. What I say doesnt have to make you dislike her, or make her feel bad. Who gives a shit what randos say. Still doesnt change the fact she is a trend seeker bc of how she was a wannabe street rapper in Japan and she did jack shit and her audience was nothing compared to now, when hololive gave her a boost. The only thing she was good at was doing animations. But before hololive and the money simps gave her, she had nothing and no talent, now she has money and people who will listen to her songs whether shit or not.

>>5186921
lmao didnt she get more subs than her old account before she even debuted.

>>5186921
Why do you care so much. Why does it even matter?

>>5187098
>Why do you care so much.
>comes into a thread consisting of people talking about it
>why do you care so much
wot?

Ok but are people just straight up ignoring that Kiara has a consistent amount of JP collabs since the initial collab ban was lifted?

>>5188393
What collab ban? Only coco was banned

>>5188523
The initial 1 month ban where they can only collab inside of their generation.
I think it ended a day or two before the Shiva offcollab

If it’s melody/iron mouse I’m going to watch it and enjoy it
If it’s silverale/zentreya/froot I’m going to ignore it
If it’s veibae/Nyanners I’m going to dislike it

>>5188648
Based.

>>5188648
based indeed

>>5188648
Swap Froot and Veibae. Shit-talking corporations and pretending to have insider information isn't nearly as bad as adulatory.

>>5188633
Well she's the only one that actually knows japanese, it makes sense that she's the most consistent, even if mori is in japan she's an absolute embarassment when talking to japanese

>>5188648
Based clear-cut standards haver.

>>5186921
>She been crying about randos shit talking her
Are you talking about Kiara here?
>actual talks about how she wants to better herself in some way
Isn't that good thing?
>I dont even watch her shit
And that shows, anon.

>>5189078
>she's an absolute embarassment when talking to japanese
And now she is collabing with JPs more than ever.

>>5189078
And the OP says that the ENs didn't collab with JP senpai before Coco's graduation

>>5189010
Wtf did Froot do?

>>5188648
I kneel, Chadchama

>>5189144
Wtf are you saying, did you just see the comment and not what he responded to? He obviously watched her at the start, otherwise he wouldn't have that view of her. I agree she's cringey af, I dont care for her but its pretty damn impossible to not see clips or shit appear on your feed if you like hololive.

>>5189369
She cheated on her husband that was a military person while he was on duty.

>>5189589
on top of lying to the guy she cheated with, and also failing to deliver on orders from her co-owned patch shop with said husband she cheated on.

>>5189677
Only /k/ would actually care about some thot failing to deliver on the patches though.