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51756029 No.51756029 [Reply] [Original]

Legit how can anyone defend the false copyright strike that this whore did? She is taking a whole fucking company 6 feet under while others at least try not to fuck up situation harder than it was.

>> No.51756069

no one gives a shit, ant

>> No.51756076

>>51756029
Destroy all dramafags froot I kneel

>> No.51756090

>>51756029
Sooooo
Who is the lucky holo star....?

>> No.51756091

Win the copyright claim first before you start huffing and puffing

>> No.51756215

I see Vshitshow defence force is active

>> No.51756314

who was/is she dating from holostars?

>> No.51756349

>>51756029
Usually i would be against dramaniggers, but i hate vshitshow even more, bonus hate points for being that whore so i hope it comes back and bites her rancid ass

>> No.51756368

>>51756314
The vampire one

>> No.51756382
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>> No.51756393

>>51756368
No, it's the clown

>> No.51756465

Where is part 2?

>> No.51756657

>>51756314
The jester

I fucking cannot believe that cover hired this cartoon looking ass

>> No.51756740

>>51756029
The ant should try improving her own shit instead of doing drama shit.

Fucking average CCV of 12 tuber.

>> No.51756902

Literal who indie shitter will do anything for clout huh

>> No.51756966

Just upload it to youtube again

>> No.51757125

Vwhorejo defense squad are trying really hard today huh

>> No.51757188

Posts video full of misinformation and vt level rrats and wonders why she gets shot

>> No.51757309

Ant Hime seems like really good GTS fodder
I want Froot to accidentally crush her on the sidewalk

>> No.51757368

>>51757188
stop kissing her ass, holos and nijis get those daily and they don't even take them down

>> No.51757464

>>51757368
Then maybe Cover and ANYCOLOR should do a better job

>> No.51757498
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51757498

froot's a bitch, always has been

>> No.51757585

>>51756657
they all look like cartoons dumbass that's why they got hired in the first place

>> No.51757610

I cant believe theres people that defend froot here, lmao.
How do you even gaslight yourself into liking a person like that?

>> No.51757672

>>51757125
T. Seething holocuck
Must be pretty shit seeing your entire en branch be mogged by a sick girl this month

>> No.51757742

>>51757610
They’re the same as nijisisters, homobeggars, and starstroons who constantly advocate for homocollabs to “own le incels”. They admire her girlboss behavior and see it as a win against the straight white male.

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>>51756069
>>51756076
>>51756091
>>51756382
>>51756740
>>51756902
>>51757188
>>51757309
>>51757464
>>51757672
YWNBAW

>> No.51757806

>>51757760
I want ant to gas me with her own butt

>> No.51757813

>>51757760
Good, why would I want that?

>> No.51757855

But who did she copyright strike?
Is it dramafags? Cause that's based if so.

>> No.51757908

Froot simps, she will not fuck you

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>>51757760
>chinese knockoff pippa has to make her own image edits

>> No.51757929 [DELETED] 

>>51757855
ant hime, she made about documentary about froot's mistakes
she reuploaded it here
https://rumble.com/v2ux2fp-bsapricots-mistakes-vshojo-documentary-1.html

>> No.51757971 [DELETED] 

>>51757742
>girlboss behavior
>cheating on husband and being a snake in general
Is the bar really so low for these people?

>> No.51758077 [DELETED] 

>>51757971
How can you cheat on somebody who ends your relationship? Also he admitted to scamming people and cheated on his wife

>> No.51758133

>>51757908
i mean i wouldn't put it past her given her history of being an unfaithful whore

>> No.51758172

>>51758077
She was actively sleeping with and flirting with people during the relationship cuckbro

>> No.51758218 [DELETED] 

>>51757971
>cheating on abusive husband
People always conveniently leave this part out

>> No.51758247

>>51758172
Lol not true anybody who's been on vt for 2 years know it was discord shit it came out years ago

>> No.51758264 [DELETED] 

Kiwifarms dying was the worst thing to happen to /vt/ since its creation. Now we have shameless doxxnigger defending here.

>> No.51758387

>>51757920
Kson dead career is china handmade

>> No.51758403

>>51758264
it's still up, just on tor for the time being

>> No.51758452

Not a froot fan, especially after the silver shit, but this video goes way beyond just exposing her mistakes, this is full on dox shit.

>> No.51758509

>>51758452
>not a froot fan
>but
every time

>> No.51758537 [DELETED] 

>>51758264
>Kiwifarms dying
The absolute state of reddittrannies
Protip: kill yourself

>> No.51758572

>>51756029
>false copyright strike
If the video was using her videos, photos, etc. without permission, there's nothing "false" about it. You use shit that isn't yours or that isn't explicitly free to use, you accept the risk of a copyright strike.

>> No.51758579

>>51758452
Even the Silver stuff is a rrat they are still Friends people blew things way out of proportion

>> No.51758674

>>51758387
>dead career
>just got a part as a hostess in Like a Dragon Gaiden
>also got a role in Like a Dragon 8

>> No.51758681

>>51758509
Its called not being a hypocrite.
If this was a hologirl, this board would be up in arms, hell this thread wouldn't even be here. Im not going to defend this kind of behavior regardless of who's being targeted.

>> No.51758682 [DELETED] 

>>51758264
>Kiwifarms dying
kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd dot onion

>> No.51758759

Zero sympathy for dramafags, the japanese ones killed Rushia and Roa, I hope all of you die in a fire.

>> No.51758800

Maybe if this dramawhore made her own content instead of trying to get views by bringing down more successful people her channel wouldn't get struck?

>> No.51758867 [DELETED] 

>>51757760
Its possible to dislike both cheaters and dramawhores

>> No.51758885 [DELETED] 

>>51758218
>muh "he was aboosive"
Women always play the same card.
No sympathy. You cheated, you objectively are nasty person, you deserved abuse if anything.

>> No.51758950

>>51758674
>censored in china

>> No.51758977

>>51758759
I wish ant killed froot though. Would be a net positive.
Maybe dramafags are okay every once in a while.

>> No.51759075 [DELETED] 

>>51758885
Ends relationship complains about cheating only after they get back together and breakup again classic abuser behaviour

>> No.51759103 [DELETED] 

>>51758681
Ruru Rumao
This board can't do shit

>> No.51759111

>>51759075
Tits or gtfo

>> No.51759160

>>51757920
stop using kson vshojofag

>> No.51759257

>>51759160
stop harassing my oshi's friends, phasenigger

>> No.51759269

>>51759075
Abusive relationships are pure nonsense.
If someone truly abused you, you would stop loving them and end the relationship immediately, obviously.
The fact that they came back together disproves this. Calling people abusers is a last resort, after you've been exposed as a fuck up yourself, in a sad attempt to save face. But nobody with half a brain would fall for that shit, of course.

>> No.51759345

>>51759269
If you actually believe that you have literally zero life experience these relationships happen all the time

>> No.51759417

>>51759345
People CLAIM they happen all the time. Again, because they are trying to save face.
People can lie.

>> No.51759464

>>51756029
Qrd???

>> No.51759500

>>51759269
get a life loser.

>> No.51759592

>>51759500
Called out huh
At least get a better insult.

>> No.51759653

>>51759269
>obviously
Not everyone shares your particular flavor of schizo

>> No.51759711

>>51759592
why? You clearly don't know anything about life beyond your room

>> No.51759752
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51759752

>go on twitter dot com
>find post harassing froot
>click profile
>filipino or latam "trad catholic" who spends all his time reee-ing about degenerates and retweeting weird degenerate hentai (he does not see the irony)

>> No.51759795

>>51759417
There are lots of things that prevent people just ending there relationships love is obviously one but also financial is a big one if you ended up homeless you'd think twice about ending it

>> No.51759875

>>51759653
>"help im being aboooosed"
>Then leave the relationship
>"huhhhhhh, no because... reasons..."
Yes, obviously.

>> No.51759899 [DELETED] 

>>51757929
>deleted
looks like the vshojo tranny janny arrived

>> No.51759971

>>51759752
>twitter
Go back and stay there

>> No.51760001

>>51759795
Froot had no children, and could still move back to her parents with relative ease, she did not travel far. Being a financial leech to your partner to begin with is not a good look either way, be self sufficient.

>> No.51760041

>>51759971
You act like most of antis on twitter aren't browsing this board

>> No.51760083

>>51759971
did i call you out felipe?

>> No.51760125
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>>51758387
Nice english

>> No.51760131

>>51760001
And here you show your ignorance she actually left against her parents wishes and moved to America, she couldn't just move back in

>> No.51760187

>>51760125
Better than kson

>> No.51760233

>>51759103
One thread earlier mentioned the relationship discussed in the video in the OP
It got insta-deleted

>> No.51760347

>>51760187
It's not, Kson understands possessives and tenses

>> No.51760369

>>51760233
>>51759899

>> No.51760449

>>51760347
Just hurts

>> No.51760513

>>51759500
You seem to be lost.

>> No.51760569

Ok desu, I was probably wrong with that "false" strike shit. I thought that all shit in the video was from what froot publicly posted and that as long as she posted shit herself it would fit into fair use but now I am a little bit confused bout this. Still hate her for how she handled previous situations, even more than drama-seeking indie.

>> No.51760601

>>51760449
That's grammatically correct. Take the L you're being cringe.

>> No.51760763 [DELETED] 

>>51760369
>posts about “relationship” get deleted
>links to video that talks about “relationship” extensively stay up

>> No.51760956

>>51760601
Foul mouthed kson is cringier

>> No.51761045 [DELETED] 

>>51760763
Rumble is based and trannies can do nothing about it.

>> No.51761053
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>>51756029
>ant and his discord group trying to promote themselves /here/
they will have passed to the new pick me girl

>> No.51761132

>>51759875
Man, why would someone being abused feel the need to stay with someone, this is a real big thinker. I don’t even necessarily buy that froot was abused, but i really hope you aren’t genuinely this retarded.

>> No.51761184

>>51761045
Rumble is going to die like Parler died

>> No.51761205

>>51758950
>censored in china
The list of game elements banned in China:
- No underage love allows.
- No blood allowed.
- No words allowed that could let one think of murder such as "kill".
- No females in underwear allowed, no cleavage allowed.
- No attacks on female genitals or breasts allowed, no touching them allowed.
- No provoking the opponent allowed.
- No skulls or bones allowed.
- No brutal actions allowed (Hunting non-humans is legal).
- No getting rewards from PvP content allowed.
- No scaring the player allowed.
- No content depicting democracy allowed.
- No demonstrations allowed.
- No content going against communism allowed.
- No glorification of people or countries that invaded or colonized china allowed.
- No content allowed that depicts great chinese people as something they were not in reality.
- No content about genitals or content hinting at genitals allowed.
- No sex allowed, no content hinting at sex allowed.
- No content about body transformation or body modification allowed.
- No content about drugs and mental degradation allowed.
- No content about degrading others allowed.
- No content depicting prostitution or anti-society organizations allowed.
- No works about fortune-telling and other non-scientific actions allowed.
- No english allowed.
who cares? yakuza can't even be sold legally there.

>> No.51761366
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>>51761205

>> No.51761384

>double the posts compared to the posters
MA
THEYRE BACK AGAIN

>> No.51761387

>>51761366
Not an official upload

>> No.51761519 [DELETED] 

All front had to do was make a new vtuber account so she could get dox protection. But nope she didn't and now her horrid past has come back to haunt her. What a moron.

>> No.51761543

I love it when the false flag king shows up and pretends to be fans of other vtubers in the same company to own the “incels” using reaction images he’s used in other threads with the exact same posting style before
totally organic and real fan by the way

>> No.51761563

>>51761205
I’m pretty sure Yakuza 0 changed a Chinese characters appearance to look significantly more attractive in the Chinese release.

>> No.51761642

>>51761543
I’ve been keeping track of the kson/henya imageschizo for a few months now. god damn, they really don’t realize how simple their posts are. maybe if they changed it up they wouldn’t be so recognizable.

>> No.51761756 [DELETED] 

>>51759075
>virgin reasoning

the truth is that the brain gets hardwired after a certain period of time in a relationship, so if the cheater returns and decides to manipulate the situation a bit in its favor the chances of success are high, but the cheater never changes so they will surely break up again.

>> No.51761807

>>51761642
>you don't believe my baseless rrats?
>schizo!!!!

>> No.51761896

>>51761563
what year did yakuza zero come out?
In what year did Xi start fucking up the video game industry there?
there you have it

>> No.51762025

>>51761543
>>51761642
and the moderators ignore unironic shitposting like this because of their biases. there are 4chan moderators that sit inside the vshojo thread that just wait to delete anything making fun of them. they allow this rampant bait/trollposting to run unchecked.

>> No.51762094

>>51761807
I never said anything about the rumours. You just got yourself caught.
Congratulations on confirming my hypothesis. I think I’ll call you Henyaschizo.

>> No.51762106

>>51761366
this is one video uploaded by a random gaming news channel
>>51761563
that was back when foreigners could still sell games in china

>> No.51762140

>>51762094
i never said anything about "incels" either
you're just merging me with some other people you don't like in your tiny thirdie head

>> No.51762148 [DELETED] 

>>51761756
He only complained about the discord stuff that happened during there breakup after it ended for good, probably because she actually ditched him the last time

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>>51761184
Kek

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Jakposters should suffer the same fates as their Jaks

>> No.51764666

>>51756090
Pagliacci

>> No.51764668

>>51756382
Not enough SOVL

>> No.51765988

>>51761563
Are you talking about the assasin dude? Didnt they make him uglier?

>> No.51766456

>>51761132
Pure unfiltered mental illness. Some people would rather be abused than to put effort and get out of their comfort zone.
t. my sister is exactly like that

>> No.51766719

>>51765988
They made him look like a chink actor that's famous for playing mafia dude roles. It's like if they changed him for Marlon Brando in the burger release

>> No.51767968

>>51757498
this, I didn’t need a seething 2view to tell me what I already knew

>> No.51768066

>>51758759
Rushia killed herself. Not that dramafags are blameless, but don’t try to downplay her own fuckups.

>> No.51768382

>>51761563
That's when they tried. But in Yakuza 6 they implied Taiwan is a country (Kiryu asks a hostess about the "county of Taiwan") and after patching that out didn't really do much they gave up.

>> No.51768543

Janny are you okay?

>> No.51768546

"this company" it's literally just Froot every time for a while now

>> No.51768830

>>51758572
That's not how that works in America, or else streaming video games or video clips made by someone else would be copyright infringement.

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>>51768830
Nintendo would disagree

>> No.51769712

>>51759464
Ant Hime made a video detailing Froot's misdeads (cheating, scamming, the Nuxtaku incident and "EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES") and it was taken down by abusing youtube's copyright report system. All this blind defense for a scumbag whore reminds me of the good ol days of gamergate.

>> No.51770346

>>51758572
Fair use, retard.

>> No.51770483

>>51756090
>>51756314
mr comedian

>> No.51770563

>>51761053
anon, it's very easy to hate on froot

>> No.51770652

>>51758572
freedom of the press, froot is a public figure
she never even made the attempt to separate her vtuber avatar from her past, it's all the same account

>> No.51771053

>>51759500
>/vt/
Ror, rumao even

>> No.51771060

>>51770652
"freedom of press" doesn't mean freedom to defame. the video is heavily biased towards putting her in bad light which is treading a thin legal line

>> No.51771355

>>51771060
>froot makes a shit ton of bad stuff
>"the video is heavily biased towards putting her in bad light"
no shit

>> No.51771487

>>51771060
It's a copyright dispute, which means she's claiming her creations which she is trying to monetize were copied or stolen and are being used to compete with her. Which is totally untrue and has nothing to do with whether they're "private" anyway. Copyright is not the power to take down anything you "own."

Unless Froot made a documentary on herself and it was copied by Ant Hime, it's very hard to argue she was being prevented from profiting from her work, but even then the photos and raw video would still be more or less fair game if it's being used for something and not just directly sold.


Your understanding of the law is like a little kid's. You want the police to roll up and shoot her because she made biased statements?

>> No.51771692
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51771692

>Defending a dox/dramafag because the target is someone the collective hivemind doesnt like.

>> No.51771747

I like the funny homostar clown and assumed he was fucking girl dm no Froot.

>> No.51771904

>>51771487
NTA, and I'm going in a completely different direction. The reality is that we constantly do things that are illegal, but nobody cares because it causes no issues for anyone else. I personally default to believing copyright takedowns are correct, because half the internet is infringing on copyright constantly. It's just that nobody sues. It's kind of an unofficial agreement to act in good faith. When someone starts acting in bad faith, they are completely in their right to stop being as lenient with copyright infringements.

>> No.51771947

>>51771692
>defending false malicious copyright claims

>> No.51772722

>>51771904
You're completely wrong because nothing is being done in bad faith here and copyright is not a gentleman's agreement of who made what. Copyright is just a temporary protection to allow you to profit from your work in the short term, which suggests you have an absolute right to reference or otherwise use any media you want (which makes perfect sense when you consider music, games, fanfiction, etc.). Using a photo or sample from someone you have a bad relationship with is not "fair use in bad faith," it's just plain not a copyright issue and needs no legal defense.

You're telling me she needs to be sued for the proceeds of her video because she's doing monetary harm to Froot's own videos? Because that's what Froot is saying here. If someone references a Fahrenheit 451 in a video game, you think the copyright holder actually has grounds to sue and just doesn't because "teehee, we'll never tell because we like you?" You don't need explicit or "teehee tacit" legal permission to make a video and this is not the point of copyright, not how copyright is used, and now how it's defined in law. It's just not what copyright is.

When she took it down, she was saying this is my documentary and you stole it. It's wrongful and the intent was to harm Ant Hime, not the other way around.

>> No.51772888

sounds like a win to me

>> No.51772922

>>51771060
truth is an absolute defence, did they say anything that isnt true?

>> No.51773000

>>51772922
Literally nothing they said was true

>> No.51773001

Peddling misinformation and rrats from vt of all places and I'm supposed to have sympathy for a drama shitter

>> No.51773145

>>51771060
you niggas do this everyday on this board dont try taking the high ground

>> No.51773359

>>51772722
I dunno man, to me it just seems like you're naive about how the world works. I do agree. The order of things is ridiculous. It's not exactly moral. It would be great if it was changed. But as it stands, we live in a world based on gentleman's agreements where the law is blatantly broken all day. Now, I don't care enough to scour through the documentary to see if it breaks copyright law. It's more likely than you think. It's for sure not a good faith takedown, but you have the legal right to do certain things in bad faith.

>> No.51773378

>>51773000
source: the voices in my head
damn, froot's mom working overtime today

>> No.51773638

>>51756382
He's not going to report on this.

>> No.51773659

>>51773359
You have virtually total freedom to use other people's creations. What Froot did is not "technically legal," she lied about the video belonging to her to get Youtube to take it down (which is itself stealing someone else's material). She does not have any right to do this, and it only works when you sign your name and swear to Youtube that it's yours and you'll prove it in court later. It's possible only because Youtube has no way to verify that on its own and puts more trust in accounts they know.

>> No.51773667

>>51771060
Even if the contents were defamatory (which I don't believe), the DMCA is meant for copyright claims, not defamation claims.

>> No.51773701

>>51756029
Lots of retarded teenagers on this thread who need to learn what fair use is and how easily abused it is on youtube

>> No.51773839

>>51773659
>You have virtually total freedom to use other people's creations
In a very small number of countries. You should calm down and actually familiarize yourself with the issue. You're mad at a bad faith action taken. I understand. But I can tell you that nobody suffers if you spend time familiarizing yourself with the subject so that you can have a more reasonable take. Because on some level, you have a good point. The world shouldn't work this way. I'm on your side on that.

>> No.51774040

>>51773659
If you own content that appears in a video, you can ask for it to be taken down
You own your own posts on websites, like Facebook and 4chan
Froot owns the posts used in the video

>> No.51774136

>>51773839
>In a very small number of countries.
Totally unhinged. The DMCA is a US federal law and only applies to sites hosted in the US, which Youtube is. We are talking about US law exclusively.

>> No.51774291

>>51774136
The US is a country where copyright is pretty restrictive. At least compared to my own country. Companies could go apeshit if they had interest to do it. They don't because there's a lot to lose and nothing to gain. So it's basically just a set of unwritten gentlemen's agreements not to go apeshit. You should look into this.

>> No.51774357

>>51774291
How drunk are you?

>> No.51774421

>>51774357
I just think you've never actually looked into this and assume things are one way. Unwritten gentlemen's agreements exist even if you're not aware of them.

>> No.51774424

>>51774040
>Froot owns the posts used in the video
Discord owns the posts. Anti hime just needs to to counter claim but that means giving vshojo her personal information.

>> No.51774443

>>51774291
This entire paragraph is gibberish. Want to start over?

>> No.51774576

>>51774443
What I'm trying to say is:
People think US copyright law is less restrictive than it is. This is because it's not commonly enforced. It's not commonly enforced because there's nothing to gain.

>> No.51774602

>>51771692
>defending a whore

>> No.51774695

>>51774424
Actually all Froot would have to do is say she intended to use something in the video for her own monetary gain and Ant would be breaking fair use as she doesn't own it

>> No.51775194

>>51774695
You can't "break" fair use

>> No.51775225

>>51774576
Lawfag here. Copyright is neither a series of "gentlemen's agreements" nor is the refusal to enforce it though those sorts of tacit agreements the basis for commerce. Fair use is a legal construct within copyright law that dictates what can and cannot be used of copyright protected material and for what purposes. You don't know that so you're sounding off on a subject that you have never studied beyond the surface level.

>> No.51775251

>>51774695
Wrong.

>> No.51775277

>>51774695
That's not how that works.

>> No.51775439

>>51775225
Are you just a lawfag or a copyright lawfag? Because you sound like a law student claiming to be a lawfag.

>> No.51775532

>>51775439
I've been in practice for 5 years. You sound like you played Ace Attorney once and have the whole profession figured out. Lawyers aren't pokemon. You can specialize a field but that doesn't shut you out of the rest of it.

>> No.51775752

>>51775439
>Are you a cardiac surgeon or a doctor because you sound like a medical school student trying to sound like a doctor.
The heart only works because of a gentleman's agreement with the heart not to go apeshit.

>> No.51775827

>>51775532
You sound like you've read one book and think you have valuable input. We were having a discussion on a completely different level. You just wanted to come in and talk about fair use. Okay, that's not actually valuable input. It's a part of the law that's common knowledge in many ways. In fact, it's the reason people commonly mistakenly believe that the copyright law is less restrictive than it is. I'm not claiming to be an expert.

If you want to give actual expert takes, give them. You're giving law student who watched one lecture takes. Ones that nobody was confused about and nobody asked.

>> No.51775880

>>51775532
>claims to be a lawfag
>admits to only be practicing after 5 years
Nice try fag.

>> No.51776073

>>51775827
But you are wrong about fair use. Broad statements about people thinking copyright is less restrictive than it is are worthless and equally true to saying people think copyright is more restrictive than it is.

>> No.51776105

>>51775827
>We were having a discussion on a completely different level.
No, no we weren't. We're talking about the Froot situation and whether it was legal, which it isn't. All of the statements you made about the situation itself and US concepts like fair use were objectively wrong.

>> No.51776181

>>51775880
>after
Who said that?

>>51775827
I'm sorry that you couldn't follow the subject but from the looks of things everyone knew that before I saw the thread. Fair use is central to the discussion because Froot can make literally zero claims that defeat it as an absolute defense against her copyright infringement claim. You and she are both too stupid to know this, but that's never stopped anyone in the past due to the mechanics of the DMCA's counternotice system.

So far your own "valuable input" has been claiming that copyright is (however vaguely) more restrictive in the US than in other places, which means fuck and all. It doesn't matter how restrictive it is in other places when I've literally just told you why the copyright claim fails in this case.

>> No.51776251

>>51776181
THIS WOULD BE A US COURT CASE
UNLESS YOU THINK THIS IS GONNA GO TO THE UK

>> No.51776340

>>51776251
You must have quoted the wrong post on your way to the capslock key.

>> No.51776360

>>51757672
>sick
Munchausen is a mental illness, I guess.

>> No.51776468

>>51776073
I made no specific claims about fair use. In fact, I didn't talk about fair use. I didn't even mention it, because I was trying to talk about something else.

>>51776105
You were talking about that. I tried diverting the conversation. End result seems to be that we were talking past each other.

>>51776181
Yeah, it's a good point for the conversation at large. It has precious little to do with this line of conversation.

>> No.51776470

Don't mind me. I'm just sitting here watching the sky to see if shit city starts falling as a result of this. My mind tells me it will be yesterday's newspaper in a week, but the hopeful part makes me realize I will be one step closer to tolerating Vshojo if this bitch leaves.

>> No.51776484

>>51776181
>I've been in practice for 5 years.
You claimed to be a lawfag, but you’re still only practicing law. Quit practicing and start already!
It is an extremely old joke you dummy.

>> No.51776783

>>51776468
>End result seems to be that we were talking past each other.
Saying "yeah, I know that sounds reasonable, but you're wrong" and instantly changing the subject is not us talking past each other, it's just you being flaky and trying to use debate tactics instead of a good faith discussion.

>> No.51776823

>>51776484
I thought something fishy was going on but I'm in a mood today

>>51776468
>Yeah, it's a good point for the conversation at large. It has precious little to do with this line of conversation.

Except that's wrong. The only thing you've said otherwise is that a "series of gentlemen's agreements" stops companies from "going apeshit", whatever that means. Its irrelevant to the current conversation because, again, nothing about current restriction within US copyright make this a winning move for Froot. The reason why that is the case has already been explained to you. The law necessarily includes shelters and protections for content creators to make works even including the copyright works of others.

>> No.51776941

>>51776783
I said multiple times that you were being reasonable about some things. Because you were constantly saying things I never disagreed with. You interpreted that as me saying you're wrong.

>> No.51777130

>>51776823
Okay, so your actual point of contention is that an ESL used the term "gentlemen's agreement" when they meant that there's no interest in litigating everything to the full extent to the law. I can see my fault in that. Can you see your fault in that?

>> No.51777187

>>51756657
>>51757585
You realize there are people behind the cartoons moving on your screen?

>> No.51777549
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>>51756029
It's funny because the copyright strike only helped bring more attention to the video in question, I otherwise wouldn't have even known about it let alone seen it in full if they didn't...

>> No.51777617

>>51777130
No, that is a correct use of gentleman's agreement. The problem is that it doesn't apply to copyright law and is not the actual reason for any of this. In the US, you genuinely have a right to make or use whatever you want with only copyrighted material as the exception, with fair use (an accepted defense for using copyrighted materials in your own work) narrowing it down specifically to directly competing with the original author using their own material. If the medium or the intent isn't the same, like using something for a documentary or a writing an article about it, then there is no argument for infringement even if it was litigated.

You're assuming US copyright protections are stronger than they are, when most of the takedowns you see are actually not legally binding. DMCA on Youtube is meant for people directly reuploading popular stuff to farm ads instead of the original author (which is why it acts so fast and doesn't second-guess creators), and using it to take down editorial stuff you don't own is perjury. That's the thing here, Ant Hime made the video so she owns it wholly regardless of using images owned by Froot. Even if it went to court, Froot would lose hard BUT Ant Hime would be forced to dox herself and pay her own legal expenses.

Therefore, this is actually a pretty severe attack from Froot and it isn't "kinda legal" or "technically legal, but just morally wrong." It is wrong in every sense. It's actually criminal, just unlikely to ever go to court. We aren't mistaken about the point you're wrong to make, it's legitimately more wrong than you realize.

>> No.51777982

>>51771060
>muh defamation
She's welcome to sue and get fucked by a anti-SLAPP motion because those protections do not apply to people like her in most of US. That's before we even get into how all of it is true.

>> No.51778129

>>51759269
This nigga knows less about relationships or psychology than the average high schooler

>> No.51778166

>>51777617
You're assuming a lot of things here. You're also assuming I said things when I contradict some of the things you say. I directly addressed some of your points. I pretty much directly say that I don't care to scour if it's legal or not, but it's definitely immoral. I didn't really make specific claims about a lot of these things on purpose. Because that's a discussion for lawyers. Also, you keep saying I assume things I don't assume. It's really bothersome.

>> No.51778275

>>51778166
>I don't care to scour if it's legal or not
This is why people tell you off. If you are a foreigner, you have to take on faith a little bit that I'm telling the truth, or else you're calling me wrong.

>> No.51778421

>>51778275
Anon. You're dumb. I'm trying to make a point.
If A, then B
But I specify that I don't know if A is true.
And then you people keep hammering about A. Do you see why this becomes a game of cat and mouse?

>> No.51778533 [DELETED] 

>>51758264
>Dumbfuck doesn't know that the doxxniggers are still on the farms.

>> No.51778538

>>51778421
>If A, then B
Yes, if. You can agree that it would be true without throwing the whole thing out because you can't confirm A. This is the meaning of "if."

Did you eat breakfast today, anon?

>> No.51778582
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51778582

>open thread reads 20 posts
>still no clue what actually happened
>leaves and hides thread

>> No.51778588

>>51778538
Anon. You're just dumb. I gave you too much credit.

>> No.51778593

>>51778538
nta but why would you eat breakfast?

>> No.51778639

>>51756090
Gavis

>> No.51778648

I wonder if the creator making dox comments on there own video could be an issue, I think they used her real name

>> No.51778661

>>51778593
Assuming anon eats breakfast every day, how would he feel if he didn't eat breakfast today?

>> No.51779858

Vshojo fans are cucks that fantasize about having husbands and sucking black dick

>> No.51779968

>>51758759
Rushia drama looks like a nothingburger next to this

Russia got killed because she overreacted and leaked shit, breaking her NDA
Froot acted like the town bike and will get away from this because she did not break NDA or anything in her contract, and even if she does, the way Vshoujo works is that the talent owns the IP, not the company, so if they give her the boot, she will still be froot and will still keep streaming to the same audience like nothing ever happened

>> No.51779984

>>51779858
You probably aren't 100% correct but I do wonder why people watch obvious whores. I'd understand it being women or even children, but not adult men. They must be cucks.

>> No.51780312

>>51779968
How long ago do you think this shit happened?

>> No.51781377

>>51759269
If you actually believe this you are more retarded than I ever imagined possible.

One /vt/ nigger disproves years of peer reviewed research with a single comment... lmfao

>> No.51782074

>>51779968
I mean literally everybody knew about all this already anyway? This shit happened years ago.

All the Ant-fucker did was make a video on it. Nothing will happen because anyone who is already a Froot fan knows this shit already and doesn't care. Most of them think this makes her based af.

>> No.51782199

>>51778582
Some 1view-/vt/-pickme decided the best use of her time was to make a 45 minute cuckumentary about a breakup between a current vtuber of note and a dipshit boot. Featuring rehashing of discord drama from 5-6 years ago. This is framed as important work by holokeks, local incels mad at women for not having sex with them and seething vshojo antis.
Also featuring:
"Waaaaaah the troons made Silver cry!" (false flag)
"Where is the money Froot?!"
/k/ommandos got scammed out of their patches (maybe)
Support are troop
Attractive woman has sex (bad)

>> No.51782266

/vt/ is probably the only board here who defends a gaslighting retarded abusive traitorous bitch. It's like all the simps of the internet are here.

>> No.51782326

>>51782266
Not even the majority of /vt/.

>> No.51782386

>>51782266
It's mostly the vshojo thread fags

>> No.51782419

>>51782199
Calm down troon. Why are you insulting the guy who is a victim of betrayal and slander? You're showing your biased mental illness.

>> No.51782516

>>51782199
And yet, instead of Froot ignoring it, she abused copyright law to try to censor criticism.

>> No.51782565

>>51782419
He should have died for oil profits if he wanted to be a hero, being a jilted vtuber cuck is not a place of honor

>> No.51782713

>>51782386
because a shill of the 2-view always links these threads in vsj when they are made

>> No.51783305

>>51782199
>Attractive woman has sex
Don't flatter yourself, Froot

>> No.51783415

>>51783305
never seen her cosplays huh

>> No.51784486 [DELETED] 

>>51778582
https://rumble.com/v2ux2fp-bsapricots-mistakes-vshojo-documentary-1.html

>> No.51789995

>>51756393
You need to be way more specific.

>> No.51793267

>>51782199
YWNBAW

>> No.51795862

>>51793267
Wasn't planning on transitioning, you're still a faggot tho hth sis

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