/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Could mean she is on the fence about doing a stream, so they are holding back on making a statement depending on how she feels.

inb4 copium

How many of you are SEAs not realising you're one day ahead?

Pregnant

>>51731117
It's likelier she's on the fence about staying in Hololive at all
If her absence had a known internal cause (like Haachama's) they would've announced something. The only explanation that really makes sense is that Gura went full menhara and they can't announce she's sick because they don't know if she'll come back or quit tomorrow.

>>51731305
>If her absence had a known internal cause (like Haachama's) they would've announced something
What was Haachama's announcement? Poor mental health is also a sickness.

>>51731305
I'm sure she is equally bad at communicating with management as she is communicating with the community. So yeah I could believe that the management also doesn't really know just how bad things are and thus can't relay anything to fans.

But at some point management has to make an announcement regardless, so if that doesn't happen, it would have to be intentional based on something she is telling them.

>>51731305
I honestly believe its due to tempus cause of the subtle stuff she has done.
>is the only holoEN member that has NEVER talked about them or even alluded to them or even promoted them
>seems to have gotten more "loveydovey" to fans sometime around the period they debuted
>adds "idol" to her Twitter bio around the same time, seemingly to let fans that hate tempus that she understands the issue/drama but won't openly say it to fuel more drama
>"uh oh!" Tweet
Naysayers will call me crazy but this is what I've noticed. Nobody knows for sure what is going on behind the scenes but I believe Gura joined HoloEN to be like her JP oshis but with how much EN is changing to be more mixed gender, this might be what is causing Gura to stop streaming to boycott management. I know for sure management definitely asked her to help promote tempus cause shes the biggest holoEN and has way more reach and Gura being the only member not to acknowledge them makes it very obvious and suspicious.

It's still the 19th in the first world, OP.

>>51731849
Even if this was true, it doesn't portray Gura in a positive light. Gura is the most popular and the most powerful member of HoloEN. If she asks for a collab with the other girls, she'll get it. If Gura wanted to oppose Tempus, all she'd have to do is keep streaming with them without inviting Tempus.

>>51731849
>to boycott management
It doesn't have to be that. It's undeniable the environment changed dramatically after Tempus, even internally. Maybe especially internally. Do they even have a separate Discord channel? And in the normal world, when management rolls in with huge changes that you disagree with, people change jobs. It's not so easy here.
Then again whatever drove her to take her break in December, she may have not recovered from it. She should still be on an official hiatus like Haachama if it weren't for Holofes. If she's not graduating because she herself has hope she can snap back at some point, she'll probably go on an indefinite hiatus in a few weeks.

>>51731045
She could be dealing with irl bullshit for all I know and you should know by now that Cover won't say shit about their personal lives unless she wants to and with how fucking desperate and autistic chumbuds are I don't bla,e her for not saying shit since she already did once and they still bitch.

>>51731849
You forgot the main thing anon, she never NEVER followed the HoloPro acct.

She's unironically transitioning from female to male
This is the rrat I believe and I will not take my meds, unlike xer and xer dilating fanbase

>>51732203
>If she's not graduating because she herself has hope she can snap back at some point, she'll probably go on an indefinite hiatus in a few weeks.
Yup, although I wouldn't even give it a few weeks, if she doesn't stream on her bday I'd say they will call an indefinite hiatus for health reasons within a day.
And all the stress of a bday stream is probably making it all worse so I'd say it's not looking good at this point. Not even any copium to latch onto honestly.

>>51731045
Ame said Gura's Birthday would be in a few days. Did she slip that it was going to be postponed?

>>51732409
Sorry anon. The zippertits arc has already been claimed by Kronii.

>>51732438
She is going to remain until Connect The World at the very least.

Its an internal thing 100%, probably about the guys too. Gura has been the only one that has not even mentioned anything or acknowledged the guys at all, even Irys/Kiara/Fauna have said something about them at some point. Gura probably did not want to be forced to do shit with the guys and is now in an awkward situation of not streaming but still having to do these events. Its only a matter of time until the inevitable forced cross-gender collab happens.

>>51731590
Announce what? That she's MIA and no one at the office has been able to contact her?

>>51731045
she has probably already decided to leave and management is just waiting till after the concert to announce

>>51732409
Burgers are mentally insane

>>51732564
it's easier for Gura to avoid many topics seeing as she doesn't stream or communicate in any way

>>51732589
If that was even the case they would just say something generic about health concerns like they always do.

>>51732518
That shit is probably already prerecorded, they could announce hiatus and she'll still "be there" for it.

Hooboy, how easily it devolved to blaming Tempus for existing..

>>51732751
>EN boys debut
>Controversy after drama after shitfest happens within Holo EN

"Boy I wonder why people think Tempus is the root cause of EN failing"

Come on, you know, you're just in denial. Gura still doesn't know and can't handle her fame and fans, she is a very good girl and that's precisely why she hasn't put any big stop to a lot of toxic fans that attack absolutely everything (yes, you included), it's normal that a young girl that liked to do children's shows feels repudiation and refuses to stream for such toxic people.

>>51732751
>Tempus 1 debuts
>Tempus 2 debuts "due to popular demand"
>General holoEN recline
>Followed by Gura graduation/indefinite hiatus
Like it or not, Tempus are going to be forever remembered as the point at which HoloEN's decline began.

>>51732900
then she should simply graduate

>>51732734
What sort of situation with a talent would force management to remain radio silent short of "we don't know what the fuck's going on with this person"?

>>51732751
yes exactly, tempus shouldn't exist

>>51732751
You can take it as blaming if you want, or try to look at it objectively and without your emotions getting in the way.
Can we agree that Tempus is a big change for HoloEN? If we can, then guess what happens when a big change was suddenly and without your consent forced on you? Some people adapt and cope and might even like it, and others bail. If it makes you feel better, you can blame Gura for not liking the change Tempus brought to this degree. It's still just basic human nature that when big changes happen to your environment, there will be people that will not like it.

>>51732900
Pretty sure the most toxic Gura antis are jealous fans of other streamers anon.

>>51732751
EN began to recline immediately after gen 1 and 2 for the boys happened, to try to insinuate otherwise is revisionism.

>>51732593
This, no way they'll sour the concert if they don't have to, remember the rule of 1 graduates and another gen debuts? that's what's gonna happen after the concert, EN3 will be announced and AFTER the debuts + 1 week gura will announce her graduation.

Gura is obviously going to do her birthday stream with kaguya luna, who also has not graduated.

>>51732976
See >>51731117
If she was telling them not to make announcement and making promises to get better and stream.

And why would they remain radio silent if they literally had no idea where she was or what was going on? That would be even more reason to announce a hiatus.

>>51731045
Cover knows than hololive fans are becoming more skeptical of the radio silent "health" breaks. Management claimed that Haachama was gone for over 3 months because of the flu. They only admitted that she was healthy just before she missed her 5th anniversary. If anything the situation with Gura is stranger and resembles what happened to Sana before her graduation. Of course things were looking bad with Ina before they got better so Gura missing her birthday might be the worst part of the storm.

>>51733056
that would sour the gen. I think the gen, if one will come, will happen after her graduation announcement

>>51733017
>Can we agree that Tempus is a big change for HoloEN?
Only this board thinks that, try explaining to anyone outside of JP idol fans that you're mad a group of female streamers is interacting with male streamers and you'll get laughed out of the room.
I doubt anyone in EN cares about having males in the workplace, and the ones that have chosen to preserve CGDCT have been free to do so since the beginning.

>>51731045
Her manager can't think of anything clever enough to use as damage control.
The backlash will be pretty entertaining no matter what happens, it's a double edged sword.
>she streams
Gets called out for being completely absent with ZERO communication
>she doesn't stream but puts out some mediocre tweet out
Massive backlash ensues, tons of bad PR, no real way to mitigate the damage

She's pretty much fucked, and if it's cover holding NDA's against her for future projects and releases then they're doing a huge injustice by not allowing her to even tweet that she's in their new studio at the very least working on something.

>>51732203
>It's undeniable the environment changed dramatically after Tempus, even internally. Maybe especially internally. Do they even have a separate Discord channel?
I always worried her blanking the homos would have been especially awkward if they were all dumped into a discord together and potentially cliques might form that would make her feel ostracized. I doubt it happened though because she seemed close to Myth in Japan and the other girls that ignore the homos are able to stream just fine.
I think she is done with holo for other reasons that the males are only tangentially related to.

One thing is for sure though, the focus on debuting 8 homos and letting the main branch languish for 2 years has made losing Gura something they could possibly have recovered from into a mortal wound. If she graduates before a new gen is announced its only a matter of time before the EN branch is fully overtaken by indies on twitch and mid level corpos, its already happening in her absence.

I think it's smart to simply stream rarely like she's doing right now rather than quit outright and graduate.

She gets to manage any life concerns easier this way, and she still earns from members and superchats when she does decide to stream / collab.

>>51733017
several of them have confirmed S/Os, why the fuck would there be internal drama over male coworkers simply existing

>>51731849
it would be quite something if it turned out someone in tempus or multiple members were trying to get information on gura or force interaction and she complained to management, but EN management didn't want to take action because it would damn all of Holostars.

gura is the belle delphine of hololive

>>51733395
Perhaps the bad thing was disappearing for months on end with no acknowledgement while making an increasing amount of broken promises

>>51733593

>>51731849

>>51733593
>someone in tempus or multiple members were trying to get information on gura or force interaction
nigga absolutely no one is this thirsty in hololive, it looks like the tamest, most corporate workplace on earth
I imagine their "general" slack channel gets one message from Fauna every two months

>>51733395
>le heckin backlash
You're taking this way too seriously.

>>51733535
I'm not saying there's any drama. Some people just can't adapt to big changes. That's all.

>>51733684
Yea she really didn't set herself up for success with that stint, and her recent inactivity isn't winning over her long term fans either.
All in all Cover should really just cut her off and be done with her. Give the limelight to one of the other girls that's actually capable.

>>51731305
Gura should leave and create her own idol corpo. With actual idols.

>>51731849
>is the only holoEN member that has NEVER talked about them or even alluded to them or even promoted them
Who are Fauna and IRyS? Unless you count their "We won't ever collab with them" as talking about Tempus, of course

>>51733884
How is it a big change, though? Your entire argument rests on the listener accepting Tempus' arrival as a major dynamic shift but you don't explain at all how this would end up being the case. Might as well share your thoughts on the subject, cause I personally don't understand what the addition of male coworkers changes for them.

>>51731045
imagine being an investor and knowing your investment could just tank because of the menhera whims of woman-children

>>51733802
lel you're on high copium, EN is a snakes nest behind the scenes and gura couldn't handle it, she's getting slowly pressured out.

>all these cope rrats

She's just a lazy white girl who is rich af now and doesn't want to work anymore. Stop projecting your shitty rrats.

>>51733828
Actually watching from a far I am enjoying the doom posting, also the copium posts from from her fans.
But if you're to retarded to understand they're will be backlash then that's a (You) problem.

>>51734030
Gura is the only one that autistically avoids them. She doesn't follow them. She has never even so much as mentioned them. I can't explain to you how someone else feels.

>>51733184
Ina was doing her main job on her ''break'' so she wasn't ''burnt out'', gura's case is different.

The prolonged silence and vague statements from multiple people make me think the lawyers are involved in this somehow.
Whatever ends up happening, it will be way more boring than what you've come to expect out of your /vt/ flavored telenovelas.

>>51733955
>Give the limelight to one of the other girls that's actually capable.
That's not how it works. Cover didn't put a particular spotlight on Gura when she debuted. Her rise just happened out of nowhere. Gura's success will never be recaptured again.

>>51732409
Holy shit this actually makes sense

>>51732861
Lmao, en was declining when council debuted. Wake up, sheeple

>>51734118
Most people are concerned for her. I can tell you're mentally ill and have spent way too much time getting angry over... I don't know. Something you've deemed your enemy.

>>51733374
>Ame's improve yourself
>Kronii's giga hypocrisy
I don't know anon, seems kinda huge to me.

>>51734080
Yeah no. Birthday streams are the time when merch gets shilled. If Gura were motivated by easy money then all she'd have to do is stream for an hour to earn tens of thousands of dollars. This is something else.

>>51732409
Would you still support him if this happened?

>>51731849
Congrats anon, you're the stupidest seanigger on the board.

>>51734208
>Gura's success will never be recaptured again
HER redebut.

>>51734048
Welcome to talent business, it's a feature of working with humans because some of them turn schizo.

>>51734289
How does some of the girls losing their shit on their fans impact their internal work dynamic at all?

>>51731045
considering her problems with mold i wouldn't be surprised it was a combination of mental and physical health issues. mold will fuck you up man.

>>51731045
is it unprecedented to miss your birthday stream? i feel like for all of hololive this is a major payout day

>>51734221
Yeah, and council brought some interest back. Then Cover followed up with not one (which would have been fine: most people just went "I don't really care about male chubas but it's good for the people that do I guess") but two male gens with no sign of EN 3 on the horizon. Even the corporate dick slurpers on Reddit were unhappy enough that the mods had to lock the subreddit for a while.

>>51734497
Haachama missed her 5th anniversary. Totally missed.
>official hiatus
Yeah, okay, there still wasn't even a tweet.

>>51734306
She seemed fine enough physically & mentally as of her last personal apperance that whatever makes her not want to stream must be REALLY bad if she couldn't put herself through the relatively easy cycle of doing a few streams here and there so you can shill your birthday merch (like even Sana did).
My personal theory is she doesn't care about money because whatever illness she has is going to kill her

>>51734561
>official hiatus
vs.
>"I'm doing what I can"
>grinds Outlast off-stream
>no-shows her own birthday without notice

>>51734561
no tweet for that either? how did jp react?

>>51734664
It's not her birthday yet.

>>51734310
My initial gut is 'of course not', but taking a step back to think about it . . .
It's a tough decision alright

>>51734664
such bad timing that covered banned outlast for the nudity
she must've felt the world was going against her

>>51734678
Official hiatus so it's no biggy. Apparently. Also I don't think the JP audience cares much for Haachama anymore.

>>51731849
>this might be what is causing Gura to stop streaming to boycott management
And who's gonna benefit from that? her fans? i dont think so, they are the ones that are being punished for her lack of streams. Saying such nonsense is not doing her any favors anon, but im pretty sure you already heard that.

>>51734703
LMAO YOU ON SOME COPIUM CHUMBUDDY
YOU GONNA BE SAYING THAT UP UNTIL MIDNIGHT TOMORROW THINKING SHE'LL SHOW UP ANY TIME NOW
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>51734246
>Most people are concerned for her.
Meh doesn't change my opinion on the matter.
>I can tell you're mentally ill and have spent way too much time getting angry over... I don't know. Something you've deemed your enemy.
Listen here armchair psychiatrist, psychoanalyzing someone over the internet is stupid and your stupid for doing it.
I just explained I am innit for the fun of it.
Mostly just shitposting about a topic, Im not vested in Gura at all, hell I don't really care.
But the shitposting about her is top notch fun, so get your panties untwisted.

>>51734703
It already is in Japan, the timezone that matters for COVER. Even in the US though it is just a little under an hour left til the 20th on the east coast, and IIRC she's indirectly revealed she's on that timezone, so the fact that there isn't even a countdown stream is baffling.

>>51734811
I'm just stating a fact. I fully expect that she's on a path to graduation, and look forward to it if it means she'll do more as an indie.

>>51734897
gura was central time iirc

>>51734841
>Meh doesn't change my opinion on the matter.
Okay then. I don't really care.

>>51734723
wonder if boygura/guro would end up with sick shark themed top surgery scars

>>51731117
tummy hurts. BD stream will be postponed indefinitely. please understand

>>51731045
simple reason is probably because gura ghosted cover so they don't know what to do either
there were some days where my depression was so bad i just didn't show up to work for a few days. i didn't even call in sick or anything. my manager was understanding when i came back but i was "managed out" shortly after that stunt

>>51735395
'managed out'?

>>51735552
Fired? How is "managed out" a confusing phrase?

HAHAHAHAH GHOSTED

>>51735617
First time I have ever heard 'managed out' before, heard plenty of other sayings/euphemisms for being laid off.

Gura is legitimately mentally ill. What she's done thus far is amazing, really.

>>51732751
I hope Gura graduate and your faggot thread get fucked by chumniggers

>>51734178
Ina said that during her sudden break she would stay in contact and do twitter spaces but than went completely radio silent for months. A lot of malicious compliance followed that with Myth dodging collabs, Ame talking about hololive being a job with consquences for breaking the rules, Gura going radio silent, Kiara having a solo holoEN puppet show for Christmas, and the Wither fight being delayed several months until Ina could be part of the collab. They overused the radio silent "health" breaks so management will say nothing when Gura misses her birthday.

>>51734118
A good mindset to have while exploring this zoo called /vt/ and seeing SEAmonkeys, Amerimutts and Eurocucks throwing shit at each other.

>>51734246
>Most people are concerned for her.
Here? No.

>>51731045
She definitely has cancer, they would've said something if it was literally anything else.

>>51731849
>>51732203
You guys are so fucking retarded.

>>51734310
no, i'd hope SHE kills HERself

She already got killed in a mass shooting recently

>>51735847
Being laid off is when your position becomes redundant or your company is doing poorly.

Being managed out is when your manager holds you to every standard you are accountable to every week and writes you up for every violation until you are fired. Its actively removing someone for their performance.

>>51736455
Imagine how much money thet could make if they revealed that. Out sympathise ironmouse

>>51736445
Even here. You planting your mouth firmly on the ass of a human centipede congo line made up of board shitters, jumping from thread to thread is not a formed consensus or majority you think it is.

I think its a combination of burnout, doesn't like streaming anymore and that she's pissed that Cover will never get Muse Dash permissions back, her favorite game. That was caused by the whore Coco. She wants to do reaction videos like the Twitch streamers do but Cover will never let her do that either, so she's pissed. Another reason could be that ever since last May, she's had a boyfriend and feels bad about taking money from lonely men, or she could be pregnant and is on maternity leave. Obviously her or Cover will never tell you that

>>51731849
The uh oh tweet on her other account was on October 4th. It's just a reference to one of her meme songs. The part that goes "10-4 dinosaur"

>>51736655
Chumbuds spamming threads is not evidence of a mass panic. Most people are laughing or are just curious.
The worried behavior is practically the same as Chumbuds freaking out and convincing themselves Gura was being drugged and raped during that off collab with Calli.

>>51733998
Umm, Fauna and Irys have mentioned them on stream. Fauna follows them on Twitter. They are not even in Gura's league. Bae got Fauna to talk about the type of guy she likes

So I'm out of the loop and am part of KFP, but seeing Gura's fanbase get treated constantly to all these long fucking nothing periods of communication piss me off. What's more surprising is reading you guys talking about 'multiple times Gura has told us one thing' then never follow up on them.

Does any anon have a full list of all the times Gura just bailed or never followed up on anything? Cuz if it's as extensive as I'm led to believe then that's incredibly fucking shitty.

Remember, before Hololive she streamed like 2 times a month, maximum. She's probably just burned out and doesn't like streaming anymore

>>51737041
I had a feeling since November thar she would graduate in 2023. That's when her multiple breaks started. She had like 2 or 3 "I'm back" streams and then disappeared again for months. I don't have the list but Gura has said she was gonna do a lot of stuff and then never did it

>>51737049

That’s more than what we’re getting now, actually. In context with the other members, all signs point to bad management.

As a chumbud, I expected this ghosting behavior at some point. She was known for doing this before she joined Hololive. There is a story about her asking some guy for help with music, pretended to like him to get the help, and then ghosted him once she got it. So she has been doing this for awhile

>>51737261
Fucking what? That's awful.

>>51736948
It's not chumbuds spamming the threads. "Concern" doesn't necessarily mean "panic." Being "just curious" is also a form of concern. Otherwise you just won't care and not engage.

>>51731045
She just posted a new short, WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dQw4w9WgXcQ

>>51737477
sadly gura antis will ignore this and keep shitting up the catalog with bait lmao

>>51737329
Yep, it's true but the jannies dont want you to know

>>51737477
>just a basic ass "thank you for all the birthday wishes everyone!!!"

So that fucking confirms it then. She knows we're waiting for her return, she sees everyone wishing her happy bday and yet she can't even give us a stream just this fucking garbage. Yeah that's it I'm done with her.

>>51737477
Fucking really? All the waiting for that? What a cunt.

>>51731045
who cares, birthday streams aren't a rule
in fact there arent any rules
stop being addicted and horny all the time

Gura doesn't owe us anything.

>>51739043
>>51739183
cornudo

>>51737477
Chumfuck... Time to get new oshi

Why does NO-ONE confirm goober is actually okay.

Even haatons got FBK to tell them that Haachama's doing fine.

FUCK.

She's overrated

no, I will NOT take my meds.

>>51731849
I've been saying this since the beginning

>>51739183
Gura owes me sex

>>51731849
God you’re actually fucking retarded. Half of this shit you’ve “noticed” isnt even subjectively wrong. It’s objectively wrong.

>>51731045
it all points to mental illness, causing gura to ghost her job even if she would not want to( with a clear head).
Theres nothing, not even some half baked excuse like health issue, or college... It reeks of lack of communication. Just pray Gura recovers. I feel its not somthing she can do alone. Its can be pretty hard to control yourself.

>>51731849
Listen buddy, I'm pretty sure Gura doesn't care about any of that. She just isn't interested in the males, but isn't completely panicking to preserve her "idol image" like Kiara or fucking Kanata in that minecraft collab either.

>>51731849
I will never get tired of "le tempus boogeyman" these anons keep coming with to justify the lack of Gura streams or numberfagging. It's like I'm in 2021 again with Mori antis.

>>51740691
Even so, management being quiet about it suggests either they are trying to get things fixed last minute (quite likely IMO), so there is not much to say about that. Or, there is some petty clown shitshow going on between them and her.

For example, they could have yoinked her twitter/yt accounts and shadow suspended her or something if they were just looking for a reason to fuck her over (like the outlast penis) and gleefully took it.

Gura never promoting/acknowledging Tempus, yet management clearly caring and fake-smiling through rage-induced tears about their lack of success = maybe they blame her for it as a scapegoat? If management doesn't accept that Gura wants to emulate HoloJP, then a rather normal mode/behavior is now "problematic" to them somehow. I think maybe, Gura's success and also wise choices to stick with what works (be HoloJP but just in English) and to ignore Tempus perhaps made high-level EN management look like fools who don't understand the market they claim to have expertise in, and they'd rather blame her and punish her for it because they don't wanna admit they're not worthy of their paychecks in the slightest and fucked everything up.

>>51741697
>shadow suspended her or something if they were just looking for a reason to fuck her over
This is not Niggisanji.

>>51732751
EN started it's decline due to a combination of covid ending causing interest in vtubing in the west to fall, but also the fact that a fuck ton of the EN girls suddenly just stopped streaming altogether (break, sickness, travelling, etc) around that time even before Tempus was announced.

The second reason is always ignored by people in these threads.

>it's le tempiss
>nijishitter deflecting
>working on le projects
>depressed shork sick tummy hort

Need chumcope bingo chart

>>51739512
Maybe they can’t get in touch with Gura at all, who the hell knows.

>>51731117
they could've announced a hiatus...
is it really that hard?

I used to care but now I don't. I just hope her quitting means EN3 and I never have to think about her again.

>>51742145
That would have easily paved over this birthday shit if they did, so the fact they haven't indicates they seemed to expect her to do it and she for whatever reason isn't cooperating (or is MIA).

Considering it is Gura and bday merch could include more things like the dino plush potentially, there is no fucking way Cover is gonna let her just skip over the biggest opportunity of the year to make millions off new merch. However she herself doesn't seem to wanna play ball anymore. Like, what can Cover do if she just has the management on ignore, etc. They can't physically go tie her to the chair and click the stream button on her comp.

Someone said recently (might even be in this thread) that the last cope excuse he could think up would be if she was actually in Japan right now (they do have a fancy brand new studio after all) and hence, because she wanted this to be a surprise forbid anyone from spilling the beans. A surprise studio live would go a long way towards undoing all the doomposting actually, and again tactically it makes so much sense for Cover to try harder on their end to revive interest in Gura even if for just a day in order to shill more merch. So if her bday just comes and goes with nothing happens, it seriously is some kind of fucking disaster behind the scenes, Cover was probably banking on making possibly millions off this specific event.

>>51732861
corallation is not causation, anon.

>>51739512
The two simplest explanations are either they can't get a hold of her as well or they don't want to lie about Gura being OK.

>>51738535
>>51738892
You guys need to watch the Jew corp. cunnies. They are cute, funny, and they stream.

>>51742776
Kill yourself

>>51742833
Dilate, cumpedo.

>>51742776
I’d rather loop the same Gura vod than watch your Jew trash

>>51739512
Who would confirm it?
Who would you believe?

>>51742479
>what can Cover do if she just has the management on ignore
>Cover was probably banking on making possibly millions
Would be hilarious if achan streamed on gura's channel to shill the dino gura (with NEW! malibu stacy hat) merch and write signatures like she did for haachama. If they're nervously twiddling their thumbs assuming she'll put up a stream and trusting the plan then they'll be furious if they miss out on millions.

>>51731849
(You)

>>51743136
Only one man can confirm she’s ok

>>51743136
Kiara can't keep her mouth shut.

>>51743136
I don't know anon, how about COVER CORP, THE COMPANY SHE WORKS FOR???
Next time think before posting

>>51743388
You wouldn't believe Cover, you silly liar.

>>51743234
I bet A-chan actually-would go out on damage control if Gura is a literal noshow. Maybe that's part of the reason she's been practicing her English so much, to be a stand-in EN manager if need be.

Gura is only good for sex

>>51743563
I actually really enjoy A-chan streams, I wouldn't mind that.

>>51731849
you're completely delusional or in full cope mode if you think gura has any strong opinion on the existence of tempus.

she was handed instant success and stardom on a silver platter, she didn't have to work for it, she doesn't have the same stake in hololive or cover corp that talents that had to work their way up from the trenches have. for her it's easy come, easy go, vtubing is nothing more than a job and "idol" is nothing more than a label she uses to distinguish herself from the others because she's smart enough to understand that the simp bucks will decrease if she openly acknowledges the existence of males.

>>51731849
That’s like if Pekora stopped streaming because Stars JP are a thing. Tempus lives in your head rent free. They’ve never even spent a night in hers.

>>51739512
Because it's a surprise. Just wait.

>>51743234
A million or two isn't really a big deal for Cover nowadays. Sure, it'd be a loss, but not something they'd lose any sleep over

>>51743717
anon do you really think it's so unrealistic given the favoritism management showed tempus that they started pressuring everyone to incorporate them?

funny thing is the unironic most realistic rrat about gura is that management stuck the screws into her and she said fuck this I'm done in response. not necessarily because m****s but because management was such a piece of shit about it.

>>51731045
At this point I really hope Gura actually has cancer and can't stream because chemo is kicking her ass, because anything else is completely unjustifiable

>>51743842
Yeah I think you're fucking delusional and genuinely need some psychiatric medicine

Still no BD? Kek

>>51743842
The fucking pregnancy rrat is more realistic than a singular talent having a several month long meltdown and neither side budging anywhere because of it.

>>51743842
i'm sure management didn't want tempus to flop so they may have ENCOURAGED collabs, but to flat out force them, especially on their biggest talent, no.

again, i'm certain that gura personally has nothing at all against tempus and in fact i'd be surprised if she DOESN'T interact with them behind the scenes in some regular capacity, but she's smart enough to realize that the idol thing on top of her numbers is her golden goose and collabing with men will be a detriment to her career in the long run. to what ends she's willing to protect her market value, though, i can't speculate.

Inb4 Gura is comatose and all these raats are a waste of time.

>>51743914
nta but you're in cope denial and/or don't keep close tabs on Gura to pick up on that she doesn't seem to think highly of management.

anecdotally we've heard several things about them, and I actually-struggle to recall her saying anything nice about EN management:
- someone laughed in her face and told her "haha you'll never play all these" in response to her giving a list of games she wanted perms for
- she thought omega and the lore shit was mock-worthy (talked some shitpost lore and cited omega)
- she had to fight with them hard to get her daki made, it literally wouldn't have happened if she didn't insist
etc.

it seems like management isn't particularly nice to her really and if anything doesn't try to really help her do much of anything. so if on top of that some shade was getting thrown around if they asked her to talk about tempus and she simply said "no" then yeah, I can see it. although, I would think tempus matters would be just one of several sticking points they have and not the sole thing.

>>51732024
but then she'd have to stream
Oh nyo

>>51743136
Mori could've, but she decided to go "none of my business" when people asked

>>51744304
in all fairness, its not her place, and her manager probably told her to not comment.

>>51731045
This is very insensitive. Gura has alcoholic fatty liver disease. She's taking time off to get her shit right but she's also in rehab at the moment as well. They won't let her have a proper PC but Cover is trying to get them to allow a laptop for her so she can have her birthday stream in minecraft. However, they're saying she has to cut off from the world in order to heal properly. It's a tense situation.

>>51744273
I don’t think that anon is calling you delusional for assuming that she’d be at odds with management. You’re being called delusional for trying to force Tempus as a major reason for her behavior. It just seems like a huge reach.

>>51744273
NTA, but there are some significant differences between "doesn't seem to think highly of management" and going "fuck this I'm done" after both sides having months to negotiate.
Many other EN girls have complained as much if not more about the management. None of them have ever thought about packing up yet. Saying that Gura is somehow the only one who did is basically implying that she is one massively dumb menhera

>>51741748
Chumkeks are obsessed with blaming Cover and EN management for Gura's behavior, somehow, despite how much management bends over backwards to accommodate her. Because otherwise they would have to blame her, and can't have that.

>>51731045
Anon this is a Japanese company. Of fucking course they believe being quiet about things is the best solution. I would be far more suprised if something was actually said. "Ignore the issues and it all goes away", classic mentality

>Lebron James talks about considering retirement in the upcoming nba season
>Gawr Gura goes radio silent for months and might graduate soon
Let’s face it they’re both probably fucking at the end of the day and making bank

>>51744682
Gura is taking that tiny Lebron peen?

>>51744682
Let's not kid ourselves, unless Gura is some secret master of investment, her income is nowhere near 1/100 of Lebron

>>51744575
Imagine. A year goes by without a peep from her and neither Cover nor any of the other girls ever mention her again. She'll be Covers unit 731.

>>51731849
>15 streams in 250 days
>It's the males fault
I want to study your brain

>>51744682
>there's that submarine lost off the coast of canada touring the titanic wreckage

GURA IS IN THAT SUB

>>51734077
>It's a snake nest
>But not my snake

>>51744575
Anon, you need to seriously grow up. A woman being allowed to be as menhera as she wants to be and do absolutely nothing but the bare minimum, without management going hard on her to stream like her contract stipulates, makes this the most incredible work conditions anyone could ever get who doesn't own the company itself. Your crude Japanese businessman stereotypes don't change this whatsoever.

>>51731849
Literally no one thinks about Tempus more than /vt/. For people who hate them the anons around here can't stop thinking and talking about them, like the angriest repressed homosexuals on the basket weaving forum. Tempus simply doesn't matter enough to Gura for her to change her entire career around their existence.

>>51732409
>Young
>Vtuber (identity problems)
>American
This is one of the most plausible rrats...good for them if that's the case, might actually make vtubing more accepting of the modern times

>>51744968
>.good for them if that's the case
Kek. Funny if you're joking or not, if not you're the joke.

>>51736759
HAHAHAHAHA

Just say it, you like girls you can easily dominate.

...if you can get any at all, ha!

Kek. I'd bet 60% of why Gura doesn't even talk about Tempus is cause her insecure bf doesn't want her talking to "celebrity" males lmao

>>51745015
You like giving money to girls who don't stream, apparently.

>>51736759
Wow, actually plausible rrats? In my bait thread?

>>51741697
Whatever unicorn

I need to finish drawing my newest Gura porn before she graduates or dies, making the new porn content awkward...

>>51745041
Fake and gay
>Gura doesn't talk about males because she is le idol
Real nigga shit
>Gura doesn't talk about males because she doesn't want to cheat on her secret boyfriend

>>51745015
Cuck hands typed this post...

>gumbo won't do birfday straem
:^)

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1671050254253449216
:)

>>51745234
The meme schedule was right.

>>51731849
Sanest /vt/ poster

>>51745254
Lucky faggots

>>51745316
>Lucky
Management tardwrangled her, no luck involved. Now apologize for shitting on them for doing their jobs.

>>51745254
It would be funny if they made that tweet without consulting Gura to put pressure on her to stream. It's not true, of course.

>>51731849

yeah except youre wrong. gura is being passed around the tempest boys like a cock sleeve. shes too busy flying between countries to stream with all the cock shes getting. whenever a tempus member talks about their cat, theyre talking about gura. line up her tweets with their videos, youll see the proof.

>>51745381
or it was scheduled, assuming she would have planned a stream by now...

>>51731849
so your saying she is actually as mentally retarted as you

>>51743249
>man

Hooboy imagine the nuclear melties if indeed any man, any red-blooded, cis as they call it man does speak about Gura's state.

"REEEEEE FILTHY MALE"
"YOU TOOK HER AWAY FROM US!"
"ALL MALES MUST DIE (except for us)"

Expect those.

You all act like it would bother her when people criticize her. I believe what she does is fully intentional and she is well aware what people think of her and she simply doesnt care.
Her contract is probably so awesome that she is allowed to farm passive income for as long as possible without doing anything as long as it also benefits Cover. Its that easy. We will begin getting news as soon as she isnt making any money for Cover anymore and she either graduates or starts streaming again. And this may take months, if not years because (YOU) are still giving her attention and money. I dont even hate her, i would do the same, but i also dont care about what she does...its just hard so ignore her entirely because the catalog gets spammed with her all the time, its tiresome.

>>51745368
It's still a scheduled tweet anon, to early to know who truly was wrong

>>51733802
Tempus are the biggest leeches on the planet, there is a 100 percent chance that at least one of them has asked gura to collab, and i wouldn’t be shocked for a second if they asked frequently since their viewership sucks and they wanna leech off of gura

>>51745049
I dont even have money nor would give it willy nilly.

>>51745142
How about you catch these hands huh, keyboard thug?

>>51742873
>>51742833
I can’t feel bad for chumkeks when they are given viable alternatives to gura and they just say “muh fuck the jews”, you guys don’t deserve streams

>>51746192
The only ones who say that are americans, since for some reason they think they have to hate anything jew and Gura is the 'muh american fuxk yeah' vtuber..she even represents the lazyness of amricans so it checks out

>>51744944
This argument is like going "haha nazis just love the jews so much, they can't stop talking about them!" - lol no, the hate is real. deal with it.

>>51742479
Nah, if it was a surprise, there shouldve been a tweet 2 days prior. No news until now means Gura is going all in on whatever protest she's doing right now and it's like because of the absence of EN3 or the fact that management began to priotize Tempus over the past year.

Whatever it is, cover losing hundreds of thousands of dollars over tempus is a serious sin to investors and fans. Get f Cover.

>>51746587
rent free

>>51746587
I don't think she is selfish enough to prioritizes some internal one-woman "protest" over her fans while other HoloENs keep streaming without Tempus interactions just fine.
She doesn't seem like the person to let the people she owes her success to hanging for some personal vendetta, she's too kind and self-conscious.

>>51731045
SCHIZOBROS WE LOST

>>51731849
unironically deranged

>>51731849
I 100% believe this rrat. At the very least, I'm sure Gura is aware her lack of activity looks like it's caused by the Tempus debuts with how /here/ she is

If males aren't the cause and Gura is just being lazy then that's even worse, because then she's just being a piece of shit who throws her coworkers under the bus to get out of doing her job

>>51731045
OP's status?

>>51748329
>If males aren't the cause and Gura is just being lazy then that's even worse, because then she's just being a piece of shit who throws her coworkers under the bus to get out of doing her job

Congrats because that's exactly what is happening and has little to nothing to do with muh males

>>51732274
anon when was the last time you checked who she was following
you dont have to scroll far to find it

>>51746587
>Cover is losing hundreds of thousands of dollars
>Make this claim after they have built a new office space AND build a new studio that literally costs 20 million.
Ogey.

>>51731849
Schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally. Schizophrenia may result in some combination of hallucinations, delusions, and extremely disordered thinking and behavior that impairs daily functioning, and can be disabling.

>>51748439
NTA, but you can be in the red with a particular project while still being in the back with the rest of your assets, its not a zero sum game anon.

>>51748439
Go back to school

>>51745254
APOLOGIZE

>>51748577
When she starts streaming again without falling off the face of the earth, sure, I'll be glad to, but I think we both know what's gonna happen anon.

>>51733395
Idk I think it’s better to just do whatever works and deal with the backlash. No matter what it’s going to happen so get it over with.

But in reality she should probably just announce she is quitting a find a new job. If you are a video creator you can have long gaps as long as your content is good enough to justify it, for a streamer your content will pretty much never be good enough to offset irregular streaming.

>>51739512
>Even haatons got FBK to tell them that Haachama's doing fine.
this isn’t entirely true, FBK was told by Haachama’s manager Haachama is fine

>>51745254
Imagine if it’s just a clip show or something and doesn’t include her actually streaming. Weird that there is no time mention for a stream presumably happening in less than 24 hours.

>>51748631
why do you care? you don't watch her

>>51748735
I do though? I want to be wrong, trust me, but I'm pessimistic about it. The only thing we hear about the B-day stream is from one of the main accounts, it just feels bad.

>>51748716
Yeah strong possibility of a pre-recorded "stream" lmao

>>51748498
Well that's not happening anytime soon is it? Sure it took a huge chunk of their earnings but that's not really a concern for them at the moment.
>>51748553
Get owned dude.

>>51736759
This is the smartest thing i’ve read in this thread jfc

>>51748910
>losing a million+ dollars because your top talent is too fucking lazy to do the absolute minimum level of work
>not really a concern

Dunno dude I'd be seething if there's a billion dollars of investors expecting dividends from your reclining company.

>>51736759
>Muse Dash permissions
She is a literal child then, if she needs to play her favorite game to do her job. Reminds me of Zaion throwong a tantrum because she couldn't use her old account to play Genshit.

>>51746587
>Protest
Why are you in denial over her just being a selfish lazy retard?

>>51749376
Don't forget Sana, who quit her job to keep playing Arknights.

>>51744017
Really? Creating an entirely fictional scenario is more realistic than deducing the talent who's always had a rough time with management was pushed one step too far during a time we know they were trying to force a successful launch of tempus?
We know how desperately they were trying to force tempus to become a thing anon, they had that retarded magged astroturfing campaign /here/ the night before tempus had their debut among other things. They were pushing tempus hard and they were trying to force them under the same brand as the girls almost as hard.

Another interesting thing to note is as soon as gura got to japan things like the daki happened. She was given a flat no from en management but the moment she's dealing with jp management it gets the green light.

No, the logical deduction from all the scraps of information we have is that gura has largely fucked off from anything that requires dealing with en management. It's the only thing that lines up with what we know for certain. Everything else like the pregnancy rrat that has only been spread the last week or so? THAT is what delusion looks like.

>>51731849
>TEEEEEMMMMMPUSSSSSSS
Rent free

>>51731045
OP is a retarded tranny

>>51736759
>muse dash

Noooo I can't play muh favourite game, fuck this company that set me up for life

>whore coco

Kys zhang

>wants to do react videos

Lazy whore can't be fucked to do anything except ohh and aahing at YouTube videos

>boyfriend

Definitely real

>pregnant

Strong possibility given the jannies vigilance on deleting posts regarding this topic.

>>51749491
Holy fucking headcanon, take your meds god damn

>>51749524
>my garbage rule breaking posts are being deleted wtf, they must be real

>>51731045
OP BTFO

>>51749615
Sorry dude I have never posted about gura being pregnant. But if you would observe the rest of the board you will see its FULL of rule breaking. Yet interestingly, aside from doxxing, gura pregnant posts are the most enforced. Hmmmm, interesting.

>>51749660
Chumbud this isn’t the win we think it is…

>>51749687
it just means you baited more people with them because jannies really only delete shit if it gets reported

>>51749395
Sana is a principal artist for them now…

>>51749695
>we
lmao nice try , looking forward to seeing you seethe more when she streams

>>51749717
I've seen offboard posts get nuked for gura pregnant. Stop coping nigger.

Why are so many ocean related things going MIA recently? This reminds me of the whole Rushia and Russia thing happening at the same time.

>>51749753
Not even seething, just saying that whatever she “streams” tomorrow isn’t going to be the amazingly thought out birthday stream you think it’s going to be retard

>>51749837
>thinks jannies OFFBOARD are run over by a secret cover cabal that eliminates gura shitposts
>thinks others are coping

>>51749908
Interesting that they let offboard vtuber posts fly but delete gura pregnant posts on the instant huh

>>51749882
>n-not seething
I'll accept your naked dogeza in about 14 hours

>>51749962
Maybe you will, maybe you won’t

>>51749953
>jannies delete shitposts
no, not really that interesting

>>51749491
I agree the main issue is likely EN management. The Tempus issue may have contributed but I believe there may have been bad blood between Gura and management before. She's had many projects get initial approval. Then halfway through completion, gets denied. I fucking hate EN management like no other.

>>51749998
Huh, so they only delete gura pregnant shitposts but not other vtuber shitposts? Why is that?

>>51749988
it's already confirmed retardbro

>>51749962
I'm not going naked dogeza because your lazy whore oshi decided to do her bimonthly 1 hour stream

>>51750035
see >>51749717
if you want other's shitposts deleted then report them bro, listen to yourself do you honestly believe a japanese vtuber company has employees on fucking 4chan???

>>51750083
>already seething

Come to think of it, we never heard from Gura since the Kakhovka dam explosion. Makes you wonder...

>>51750093
>do you honestly believe a japanese vtuber company has employees on fucking 4chan???

If I had a billion dollar valuation company that had a huge influence on its talents and advertising via 4chan, yeah, I would.

>>51750128
What am I seething about? Your oshi doesn't even stream

>>51750148
>continues to seethe
sadly your shitposts got ruined before they began 2view sister but the queen is back

>>51750226
Your queen hasn't even tweeted for her own birthday, management put out a scheduled tweet. You guys are pathetic.

>>51750260
>please grudgeposts my face

>>51750288
Speak English ESL monkey

>>51731482
and education i think?

>>51750226
>chumbud gets an inch
>takes a mile while being annoying as fuck
Now I remember why everyone hates you cunts.

>>51750425
>aaaiiee no you're being annoying nooo my shitpost
hahahahaha, gura has and will continue to be more popular than whatever irrelevant whore you follow

>>51750537
>irrelevant

That's your whore chumpedo, how can she be relevant if she doesn't stream

>>51750537
>bragging about superficial popularity

>>51750578
>uuuuh she is actually not relevant
that tweet alone already has more views than whatever shitty 2view has gotten in all her life
>>51750588
>d-doesn't count
he lmao, that's loser talk

>>51750635
I feel bad for you man, hopefully your mental health improves

>>51750537
At least our whores stream and actually talk to us chumcuck.
But sure, go ahead and keep spending money on covers mascot

>>51750667
I have gura and a full board of pissbabies loosing their shit to her to make me feel good, I don't need anymore help

>>51750635
warra good ccv that is for gawr gura and her cuckbuds!

>>51750746
>I have gura

Where???????

>>51750770
today! on her channel

>>51750795
Oh, did she tweet or put up a frame?

>>51734991
>surgery scars
>guro

>>51750741
I wouldn't call being an absolute charisma vacuum in front of like 20 or so people streaming but that's just me with me higher standards I guess

>>51737477
>everyone replying to this like they don't recognize the video ID
unless of course you're samefagging in which case kys

>>51750881
Projecting now, are we?

>>51750992
>n-no u
sad, good for me I only follow the queen of vtubers and not some peasant

>>51751058
By what metric is gura the Queen?

>>51751182
chumpedo thinks most popular = the best

>>51751182
4.25M baby, looking forward to your cope response

>>51751238
>>51751239
fucking pottery, wow.

>>51751239
You can't numberfag when sub count (most irrelevant metric) is all you have.

>>51751376
>most irrelevant metric
says who? you? because cover fucking loves that metric

>>51751058
>the queen of vtubers
>the queen

At least the queen made public appearances before she died.

>>51751434
How many of those subs are active newfag?

>>51744901
>A woman being allowed to be as menhera as she wants to be and do absolutely nothing but the bare minimum, without management going hard on her to stream like her contract stipulates, makes this the most incredible work conditions anyone could ever get who doesn't own the company itself
muh management

>>51751239
Pathetic.

its already starting to not be her birthday anymore in parts of the world. tick tock, Gura

>>51751807
>anon doesn't read the thread
already BTFO my dude

>>51734338
I can't wait to Cover AI vtubers

>>51736759
It was her own fans who didn't want her to do react content.