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Y'know, it's funny...
Gundou had shit on Holofans before on some fraud case comment and gotten some shit for it...
If Niji had suspended her waaay back then, they could have made the narrative into "holofans harass niji liver into suspension".
But now, thanks to fucking BASEBALL being the thing that's caused her end, there's a huge split between JP Nijifans - who understand and approve of her shitcanning since they knew all her skeletons for the longest time,
and EN Nijifans - who see this as the latest in a pattern of Nijisanji shitcanning their livers to "protect their brand" (especially after Zaion and Sayu's manifesto is so fresh).
I don't envy their current position.

>> No.51685256

>>51685201
Every Niji scandal is a self-own, especially when management decides to take the worst course of action, every single one.

>> No.51685263 [DELETED] 

>>51685201
>EN Nijifans - who see this as the latest in a pattern of Nijisanji shitcanning their livers to "protect their brand" (especially after Zaion and Sayu's manifesto is so fresh).
You mean Holotrannily dramanigger who pretending to be her fan? Because NijiEn know nothing about Gunwhore.

>> No.51685384

>>51685263
When management forces an apology out of a liver you actually like as they terminate them, will you then speak up? Are you too fucking stupid to understand that sticking to principles matter, that they go beyond whether you personally like someone or not? That listing off things you don't like about Gundou doesn't justify management's abuse of its power?

>> No.51685401

>>51685201
Are we reaching the "if-isms" copes now?

>> No.51685425 [DELETED] 

It's funnier that Holofags are making a martyr out of somebody they lambasted just a short time ago to own the Nijiniggers, really.

>> No.51685426

>>51685401
Yeah we are in the bargaining whataboutism phase.

>> No.51685465

>>51685384
This is standard practice for Japanese corpos. Marine apologizing after the doujin incident, Nene apologizing after tracing, Aloe apologizing after her own harassment - this isn't isolated to Nijisanji, it is simply expected in Japan that you apologize after you have offended people, right or wrong.

>> No.51685477

>>51685425
>are making a martyr
Your black rainbow company made her into a martyr retard.

>> No.51685520

>>51685477
Right. Well, I hope she "comes home" to you soon Holobro, you deserve her. Just make sure to actually support her more than you have been Zaion.

>> No.51685576 [DELETED] 

>>51685520
I love how nijiniggers actually convinced themselves that zaion is doing worse than before she left

>> No.51685602

>>51685263
No, actual NijiEN fans on her qrts as well as on the niji and virtualyoutubers subreddit.
And yes, they know nothing about her, they just see her as "yet another livers that got shat on by Nijisanji to 'protect their brand'".

>> No.51685638

>>51685602
>"yet another livers that got shat on by Nijisanji to 'protect their brand'".
Which is the truth though. That is actually what happened. Your Nijisister gossip and exaggerations doesn't change this basic fact.

>> No.51685648

>>51685576
She's pretty much remained stagnant. There's not even currently a thread on the board to discuss her. Last time I checked her general her few fans were complaining that numberfags don't recognize her "success". Turns out that /vt/ dramafag support isn't worth all that much after all.

>> No.51685774

I do love how the same faggots who made shit up about Zaion are now telling everyone
>No bros, it is SOOOOO much worse than you know.
And all they really have on Gundou is the sounds of japanese garbage trucks and that they don't like her attitude in general kek.

>> No.51685821

>>51685774
hope you support her reincarnation lol

>> No.51685840

>>51685425
how many times do you bugs need it explained to you, you dont need to like someone or agree with them all the time to say they were treated unfairly in this specific instance

>> No.51685856

pomu cute
i love pomu
i wish nothing but rich and happiness to her
and also big cocks
white women good

>> No.51685878

I'm not going to pretend I'm sad that that lying LITERAL whore got shitcanned and it pains me to see so many other do so to try and get an own on Niji being a black company.
This is the only good decision they've made in years, and Niji knowing she was a whore during the interview process means that she shouldn't have even been hired.

>> No.51685896

>>51685821
>hope you support her reincarnation lol
And thus, you prove my point.

>> No.51685930

>>51685840
I'll accept that rhetoric when you can discuss Coco and Rushia in /hlgg/ without impotent retroactive seethe.

>> No.51685966

>>51685774
>how many people have you slept with
>*long silence* I forgot lol I'm bi btw

What I "have" on Gundou from the start is more than enough and the Italy trip is just icing on the cake.

>> No.51685979

>>51685896
your point was that you were pro-gundou, evidently, so my point in turn is that I hope you keep supporting her
I think that's a reasonable request to make

>> No.51685989

>>51685840
They don't have any principles or concepts about being fair to employees who helped the company become wealthy, that is why this is confusing them so much.

>> No.51686127

>>51685840
They are never gonna get it, if someone does X they 100% deserve to be locked out of a job indefinitely until they say it was their own fault and take """Responsibility""", but if they don't they will get tarred and feathered by the company and all the dickriding livers/fans.

>> No.51686203

>>51685201
Source that she shit on hololive?

>> No.51686353

>Antischizo is seething because nobody like Gunwhore.
Imagine letting rainbow pacman live rent free in your head rather than watching stream.

>> No.51686399

Hot take: Gundou's "attitude" and openness about her personal life is what initially gave Niji it's image of "talent freedom" which then ushered in the types of people that the Niji EN auditions attracted.

>> No.51686442

>>51685465
Learn to read.
That anon wrote:
>When management forces an apology out of a liver you actually like as they terminate them
>as they terminate them
Cover does not force an apology from a member it has decided to terminate. That member is removed once the decision is made and that's that.
Anycolor tells its Livers to cry before shooting them. Black company.

>> No.51686474

>>51686442
>Forced apologies are okay
>Terminations are okay
>Both of these things are once at... le bad
roru
rumao

>> No.51686515

>>51685930
I'll never forgive Coco for costing Holos their easy gacha money and Konami perms. Also the reddit pandering.
Rushia is fine.

>> No.51686516

>>51686353
>>51686399
Again, gossiping Nijisisters, shoulda woulda coulda doesn't change what Niji does NOW as a black company to the talent they hired a long time ago. I would say the same no matter who they did this to, even someone as shitty as Hex the dildo groomer if they retroactively decide he is problematic and pile on against him.

>> No.51686671

>>51686516
Why do you type like l*dditor?

>> No.51686825

>>51685648
Yugo is doing better and doesn't have a general all the time, retard

>> No.51686827
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51686827

>>51686353
You cant just claim that nobody likes anyone in pic related just because they got terminated
You get 1 or 2 free passes at best but not an entire company worth of people

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51686915

>>51686516
I have no problem admitting it's stupid that she got fired over baseball, if that's even true.
I'm just saying she should've been fired over pic related.

>> No.51686969

>>51686827
What their saying is that they didn't like them, so who cares. They are 100% the type to kick and scream like a tard when its their oshi's turn on the block, right after laughing at the one before her.

>> No.51686986

>>51686825
Who?

>> No.51686989

>>51685930
Coco got treated badly back in 2020, and while I dont know all the inside baseball stuff, she probably had issues after that.

Rushia was just a sad situation that was mostly an unforced error on her part. I dont know beyond all doubt that hololive acted (more or less) correctly, but it's a reasonable conclusion

>> No.51687090

>>51686827
Because it doesn't effect me. What Nijisanji do to their talent doesn't concern me. I can just subscribe to their reincarnation like I did to Gibara and Lulu. And I'll still watch Nijisanji.

>> No.51687819

I loved how no one actually answered what supposed fraud Gundou had on holofans and what effect this had on... anything. At all. Like are you saying that holofans made Gundou graduate? Baseball fans are also holofans? Riku is secretly a holofan and wants to burn his own brand to the ground? What is it? Start making some fucking sense.

>> No.51687899

>>51687819
Anything bad happens to nijisanji = hololives fault
Also they definitely dont have hololive living rent free in their heads

>> No.51687908

>>51687819
>Start making some fucking sense.
Where do you think you are right now?

>> No.51688235

>>51686969
>>51687090
Case in point

>> No.51689918

>>51685256
true

>> No.51691742

All of nijisanji are perfect angels until they get fired or leave on bad terms with management then niji"fans" call them every slur under the sun

>> No.51691981

>>51691742
>All of nijisanji are perfect angels
Thats all you needed to say, cause "All of nijisanji" is just the stock value. Everything else is replaceable product.

>> No.51692305

>>51685384
>When management forces an apology out of a liver you actually like as they terminate them, will you then speak up
No. Common practice in Japan and the West too for public figures to apologize. Even if it is not genuine. So I don't see how this is a problem. Also my oshi is not a retarded whore with one trick pony joke of being edgy so she is safe.

>> No.51692336

>>51687819
If I remember correctly, it had something to do with donations, she said that ojisans with disposable income tend to donate heavily to Hololive.

>> No.51692399

>>51691742
Or even if they leave on good terms lol. Seen some people retroactively shit on Lulu and Bora now.

>> No.51692462

>>51692305
>she is safe.
>gets stuck in "break" hell for months.
>doesn't want to leave as to not abandon her fans
>ends up so torn up over the events and financially fucked by niji's shit rev split that she disappears from vtubeing after finally accepting her "graceful exit"

>> No.51692549

>>51692462
Nice fanfic

>> No.51692926

>>51692399
>people retroactively shit on Lulu and Bora now.
Post proof you fucking retarded nigger.

>> No.51693038

>>51692926
Don't know how to archive search, sister?

>> No.51693127

>>51693038
We need brain surgeon to search something you made up in your head.

>> No.51693802

>>51685201
Nijisanji doesn't care about its EN audience or branch. For them there's only one narrative.

>> No.51693923

It's always EOP holofags spreading misinformation. Classic.

>> No.51694219

>if I had invested in Bitcoin, Tesla and Nvidia in 2013 I'd be fuckin rich right now
Yeah, but you didn't.

>> No.51694799

>>51685263
Fuggoff, she's one of maybe 3 NijiJPs who was entertaining enough to actually get my attention.

>> No.51695070

>>51694799
Let me guess. You top 3 holo are Coco, Marine and Matuli?

>> No.51695576

>>51695070
Not remotely, no.
It's not about her crassness, it's how she channels it. Which was unlike any of those 3.
Much more high-tempo.
Off the top of my head the closest comparison isn't even Holo, it's Tenma.

>> No.51695680

>>51695576
>Much more high-tempo.
>Off the top of my head the closest comparison isn't even Holo, it's Tenma.
If High Tempo is what you like, why you pick Gundou over someone like Sango?

>> No.51695925

>>51695680
Don't think I've seen any of them. Any recommendations to start with?
If I have it would have been in a big collab and they didn't leave an impression. Gundou did, was my point. Instantly. She has shittons of charisma (which isn't to say that others don't).

>> No.51697839

>>51695925
Well, Sango is certainly high tempo, but she rarely collab so she doesn't have steering power that Gundou had. She usually talked about Hello Kitty and friend in rabid fangirl manner and play retro 2D platforms games.
https://youtube.com/@SuoSango
I'm mostly FPSfag so I don't know much outside fps circle. Closest to Gundou in term of pervertness is Suzuka Utako.
https://youtube.com/@SuzukaUtako
Outside Nijisanji there is Yakumo 'Sexy' Beni and Tachibana Hinano from VSPO.
They are the collab steerer and have good humour especially Yakumo 'Sexy' Beni.
https://youtube.com/@yakumo_beni
I also want to recommend Naraka who is somewhat collab steerer and Higuchi Kaede who is somewhat yankee shitposter but they might be too normal for you. Although I highly recommend Naraka for voice alone.
https://youtube.com/@Naraka_nijisanji
But if you want vtuber who sound like she is on crack 24hours, that would be Sakusan Kanon.
https://youtube.com/@SAKUSANCANON

>> No.51699476

>>51685425
Not me, I'm glad she's getting canned.

>> No.51700228

>>51691742
What being fans of the company does to a motherfucker

>> No.51704353

>>51700228
But enough about Holofans

>> No.51706869

>>51686515
retard

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