/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

My nigga Nymo in chat

We are so back.

To think Mouse sang all that with a frog in her throat

HUGE TITS HENYA

that was pretty pog

you know mouse could probably sell out a venue in la or something

Zooted rat still knocked it out of the park.

>>51612785
holy sex

>>51612822
kek

>>51612821
Froog helped her. Another W for Froog.

>>51612796
Oh no. You jinxed it.

the audio of her saying "i love you so much you have to die" would be perfect for one of those plushies you can squeeze

So glad we got And I'm telling you

She did great

>>51612837
When will we see Mouse in Crypto Arena

Mouse, Nina, and Isla were the best (I don't care that Isla was pre-recorded)

>pet reviews
gotta clean my boys for this special ocassion

Man I was exhausted but I don't think I'll be able to sleep now.

Nyan come back. I know you want to sing on stage.

I miss Emmy so much

>>51612785
all three are futas

>she said I love you

Who really loves me?

Mousey or Silver?

Anyone got the timestamp for this?
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1670192113928003585

>aethel mention
pink love lives

>>51613329
Neither. Me. I love you anon.

Anons how do we do pet review with mouse? Where do I send it? Mods won't answer me.

Has Henya had any fun Hitman moments? Those games tend towards enabling streamer wackiness.

Anyone got a timestamp to when mouse performs at the offkai thing?

>>51613392
Idk
But usually she will tweet a link for a google form.

>>51613392
post them here. she'll see them

>someone on Kick is restreaming Mouse's stream

>>51613352
It was like 45 minutes to an hour in. She also did it multiple times calling Haruka and Geega to watch

Hmm wtf someone is re streaming mouse stream on kick

Fuck she said this as I was writing this

Hunt them down

https://kick.com/ironmousetv

>>51613392
She usually posts a tweet with a link to send in submissions for these sorts of things. It might be a while before she actually does it.

Good night people.
What a highlight this was.

>>51613431
Lots of """""stealth"""""

>>51613470
>>51613436
Thank you helpful anons

Does kick not have a way to report a stream?

tourist from /pkg/. Just wanted to say that your rat chuuba did a good job
Have a good night anons!

>>51613458
>1view
ironmousetv fell off

>>51613530
They don't give a fuck. Kick exists to get people into online gambling. IF they want to get bigger, they'll have to start implementing some of these rules to stop restreaming other people's shit or risk getting sued, but right now they don't care. There's some dipshit who restreams all Gura's stuff on there ,too.

>>51613575
Your hyperactive streamer also did a great job. Energy wise she was the highlight for me

>>51613575
Thank you anon, much love

>>51613575
gn anon, thank u for your kind post, I love Isla's energy

>>51613575
You're Isla did really well as well.

>Ironmouse's favorite book is East of Eden
I didn't know she was cultured

>>51613575
Thank you, I also really liked your girl!

>>51613530
ofc not, if you want something done you gotta talk to the ceo or post on twitter & if you're lucky they might do something in a few months

>>51613458
Ignore it hes losing more restreaming it than anything since nobody is watching jt there

Looked at the Offkai schedule for tomorrow and disappointing that there's nothing interesting for us then. The only VShojo related thing on the schedule at all is Zen + Haruka having a meet and greet that definitely won't be streamed. Looking forward to hearing Haruka talk about it since she really seemed to enjoy the panel she got to do today and I like when she's excited about cool things she got to do.

>>51613689
Sunday's are usually the most boring days in any con.

>>51613670
Zen said that they got back to her pretty quickly abbout getting her name

>>51613530
DMCA

Why is soap cat such a bitch?

>>51613748
being irrelevant can get to some people

Holy Henya is still going

>banger concert
>hit up a fellow vtuber due to the problems she had
>went off at the shitty way they dealt the whole event
>playing the fish game before bed
awesome way to end the night

>>51613799
its not a concern if she goes 8 hours and over. its a concern if she goes 6 hours and below.

>>51613897
meant to reply to >>51613807

>>51613748
>>51613799
>>51613897
What the hell are you niggas talking about? It's like 3 different posts answering 3 different questions

I will continue to rrat that Numi is /in/ because she and Mouse have only ever been on stream like twice ever in 3 years but Mouse still went to comfort her after Offkai fucked up her concert

>>51613575
I really like how she went 3D. I hope more chuubas do that in the future.

>>51613959
retard

lol she's crashing so hard

>>51613959
Eh but they weren't even friends on discord. Need to justify this somehow to give the rrat legs.

>>51614028
She was so fucking high on adrenaline and meds and now that it is passing she's crashing

If Henya is the perfect addition to Vshojo, then why Nazuna flopped?

>diablo with the fujobaiter in the morning
we were doing so well...

>>51613959
It’s all circumstantial, but my rrats only grow each day

>>51614072
because she's not Henya

>Connor will be too busy to do the room review with Mouse as he is preparing to leave
If only you did that instead of one of your fortnite sessions reeeee oh well.

>>51614072
dick too small

>>51614072
Henya made the bold decision to actually fucking stream

>>51614072
Tits too big

>>51613959
>Mouse still went to comfort her
how? was private?
I can't find a tweet

>>51614072
Doesn't speak english? But she was also inconsistent and it only got worse. Plus she managed to rile up her unicorns multiple times, which caused drama and a lot of people just don't want to touch that environment.

>>51614055
>>51614028
>Mouse is actively crashing
>mods timing out people for saying she's sleepy

>>51614072
>If actual streamer is a good addition why isn't the menhera also good?
Tough question

I've been subbed to Mousey for six months. I live in the EST. I just now realized I have not once seen her end a stream. I've never stayed up late enough to see it happen. I have no clue what her end screen looks like

>>51614141
She DMed her

>>51614108
I’m sorry to Mouse but then it won’t have the same impact

>>51614141
she sent her a discord dm

>>51614164
Corporate mandated

>>51614084
They need to finish that sponsor duo, UTA demands it.

NO MOUSE WE COULD NOT TELL THANKS FOR INFORMING US

>>51614144
what does unicorn mean here?

>>51614170
Yeah, Mouse will just be praising all of them and repeating the same stuff over and over

>>51614072
Bait answer: Because she sucks
Bait answer with a grain of truth: Because she doesn't speak English
Realistic answer: She did a whole lot of stuff that's bad for growth right out of the gate and never once course corrected. Very irregular streaming schedule so that translators weren't always prepared, a seeming unwillingness to go out and make new friends that she could collab with on stream for some variety, eventually sticking to grinding boring games like Apex, that kinda thing. Her fans are partially to blame for this but not entirely.

>>51614141
Discord dm’d, but she didn’t had her as a friend so she was waiting on her accepting the friend request
She then went on a little rant over twitter

>>51614084
idk how mouse talks to shoto he has been a mega perv to her and when typing in chat about fondling her blts

>>51614072
I might have watched Nazuna even through the language barrier if she wasn't PLAYING APEX ALL THE TIME

>>51614206
"Unicorns only appear to pure, virgin girls"
Now apply that to idol fans, and you get the idea.

>>51614226
he's faggy enough to get away with it

>>51614206
Unicorn: someone who doesn't want their streamer to interact with males at all

>>51614239
Agreed. EOP here that honestly likes watching Nazuna more than Kson, but all the fucking Apex is filtering me

>>51614226
Probably because he reminds her of someone she knew or something, who the fuck knows. How many times do people have to tell you that your perception of these entertainer's public interactions are not indicative of shit before you realize the truth?

>>51614159
I think she just disconnects if I'm not mistaken.

>>51614206
used to refer to a viewer who wants his streamer to treat him as if he is special (A "unicorn"), unicorns are known for lashing out against chuubas who interact with males that aren't him. Usually comes with a caveat that allows for other fans and the CEO of the company

>>51614357
Based misinformation anon

>*starts connor vod*
>I LOVE YOU

well, Kson is also technically a flop

I think the mix of meds and adrenaline had her fucked up

>>51614403
VERY GOOD FRIENDS

this is the most psychotic shit in streaming. Just turn the fucking stream off

>>51614423
ogey

>>51614072
Hard to to flop when you dont fucking atream anything besides apex and minecraft and refuse to interact with anyone
Its like she still thinks shes in hololive

>>51614417
Kson recruited 2 new members though, we wouldn't have Henya without her

>>51614417
wish she'd flop on me if you know what i mean (sex)

>>51614452
sure. but her entertainment value is abysmal.

>>51614256
>>51614264
>>51614357
thanks bros

>>51614417
Eh not really. Numberswise she's pretty small but she does better on YT and she's still an incredible asset in other ways. Legacy and connections are important. I maintain that a big part of why Haruka was chosen was for brand image. Openly neurodivergent makes the company look good, while the fact that she's so unbelievably friendly that she has zero enemies. Nobody has anything bad to say about Haruka in the year of our lord 2020+3

>>51614341
dude acts the same out off stream he doesn't have a stream persona said from allot of nijis

>>51614514
She has sponsors out the wazoo both including vshojo and personal. Hell taiwan is paying for her future concert there and shes practically everywhere now
I dont think thats a flop anon

>>51614536
The thing with Haruka is, her streaming numbers don't matter too much in the VSJ sense. She's everywhere. Consequently, her mindshare is high. When it comes to selling merch, that's a big benefit.

>"You must claim Diablo! and make him your GF"
>Diablo is another word for Satan in spanish
KEK I must've missed this part during the FF stream

>>51614417
She's successful enough with the level of competition there is in the vtuber/streamer business, has had enough pull to get recognized by brands she loves, and got her bestest buddy into her org
I'm sure she'd love bigger numbers but I think she's pretty happy with what she's achieved

>>51614514
she should do more react and sleep streams to entertain you people i guess

>>51614536
Haruka has at least one enemy
Pomu

>>51614072
>henya plays a variety of games for long periods of time
>henya has both an English and Japanese audience from being bi-lingual
>henya goes out of her way to collab with different people and expose herself to new audiences
>henya is generally positive and doesn't vent her personal problems to chat often
>henya doesn't do GFE which many normal Twitch users would probably be weirded out by
>henya has a better chat experience with many 7TV emote staples and she can actually see 7TV, BTTV, and FFZ emotes unlike Nazuna

Will Mousey do this for Connor?
https://files.catbox.moe/mep6ma.jpeg

>>51614072
It's more about what Henya did that Nazuna didn't.
>Henya went all in as Henya
>Already tested the waters for Twitch streaming and seemed to really enjoy it
>Also already had connections with some of the girls and has made the effort to get closer to them
>Streams like a maniac, consistency is good
>Is bilingual
>Doesn't vague post about things she can't do for whatever reason and make her viewers think she's fucking miserable

>>51614634
>and got her bestest buddy into her org
Who is promptly leaving after a year. But at least she has a new buddy to take her place.

>>51614675
not that bestest buddy
the bestester buddyer

>>51614072
Simply put, Nazuna failed to adapt.

>>51614594
Wait taiwan is sponsoring her a concert?
>Oh no chinks dont look

Does Mousey actually sleep with the camera on or does she just step away? i dont see why she doesn't just turn the stream off

>>51614732
Yes she does, there's clips of her sleep talking on YouTube. Also, she streams from her bed

>>51614732
It’s a subathon, she can end the steam. Also yeah she’s there

>>51614732
yes, we even saw when she fell off her bed

>>51614674
>Doesn't vague post about things she can't do for whatever reason and make her viewers think she's fucking miserable
That was probably the worst part. It's so wonderful to finish her stream thinking "ah, that was fun" and hear her die hard fans be like "god she sounded so miserable because thing we can't talk about or she'll yell at us again". What great vibes. She's a good entertainer when she wants to be, but I don't want to play IRL Needy Streamer Overload

>>51614594
Taiwan just makes her celebrity due to her past squabble with bugland

>>51614732
she streams from her bed awake or asleep so yeah it's still tracking her

>>51614753
>>51614764
>>51614796
I knew she streams from her bed but sleeping on camera is insane. I don't see who is negatively impacted by her just turning off the stream and sleeping like a normal person

Also who is watching this shit closely enough to clip it? my god where did we go wrong?

we ain't getting bubi vr the man leaves in probably 3 days and being busy

>>51614729
kson is immune to zhang now

>>51614417
She's the JP Melody, straight-up.
She's not a powerhouse in her own right but the group that builds around her more than makes up for it.

>>51614808
>sleeping on camera is insane
That's how subathons work though
>Also who is watching this shit closely enough to clip it?
People were watching because last year people hung out on Discord and had some great podcasts while she was sleeping

>>51614732
The positive explanation is that this is how subathons are meant to be run, endurance challenges where you don't stop the entire time
The pessimistic view is that this also lets the timer run down without having to do any work

Form your own opinion by mixing the two in whatever portion you prefer

>>51614826
lol She's also been the source of the other JP members in the same way Melody was the original recruiter for VShojo

>>51614867
Exactly

>>51614674
>Doesn't vague post about things she can't do for whatever reason and make her viewers think she's fucking miserable
This is consistently the worst part of her streams as Nazuna. It's a dice roll whether she will be cheerful and excitable or come online, complain for an hour and a half, and then not stream again for 2 weeks. Viewers get tired of opening a stream and being bombarded with negative energy.

>>51614808
hello, newfriend
sometimes, some chuubas join in on call and just start talking about whatever
last time she sleeptalked there were some other people there shooting the shit when it happened, so people were watching
this was last year

>>51614732
>Does Mousey actually sleep with the camera on or does she just step away?
You don't know much about Mouse, do you

>>51614819
AiEEEEEE my social crediittts

No but seriously if nazuna and her keyfags dont want to work or even appear and interact with vshojo or any of the events they are in then she should just leave imo

This thread sucks

>>51614997
That's the plan

>>51614933
I liked when Silver, Nyan, Vei, and Snuffy joined and talked about secretly being musky werewolves: https://litter.catbox.moe/5vlpoy.mp4

>>51614808
She cannot sleep like a normal person, retard. She streams from bed anyway so not turning off the rigging seems like a logical step.

>>51614908
I genuinely feel insane as a Nazuna enjoyer who sees her having fun on stream and being cute on Twitter, then seeing nekofami seethe and vaguepost about how miserable she is and how VShojo is so horrible for her

Honestly I just can't believe them. They aren't even remotely reliable, obsessive/possessive as they are and with the baked-in years of VShojo hate.
Hell, I don't even know if I should believe them when they say "we can't tell you X or our wife will get upset." Like I have no reason to believe she's actually said anything at all.

How much of "Nazuna is miserable in VShojo" is just her unhinged, anti-VShojo fanbase poisoning the well?

so what happened with nazuna today? I wasn't here earlier
she ditched her offkai panel or something like that I'm guessing?

>>51615167
Nothing.

>>51615008
I'll bite gtfo then Smile

>>51615167
She was supposed to have a V-IRL today and we have no idea if it actually happened or not

>>51615167
Her general said she didnt renew contract with vshojo and is quitting on a recent twitcast stream

>>51615167
She is seemingly no loner in the AX panel

>>51615136
gaslighting themselves is their most basic modus operandi
you can apply this for almost everything they say

Imagine all the people that paid to meet nazuna on offkai and she ends up being a no show lol
I swear this bitch is worse than nyanners

Mouse's Subathon Summary Day 17
https://files.catbox.moe/df5o66.png

Mouse's Subathon Thread for subathon images, info, etc: >>51542589

>Henya raided my wife
>they're friends on Discord and Yuzu's up for a collab
God bless this genius

>>51615193
but obviously no proof will ever be posted because muh seekrit club, so we're supposed to trust some anonymous schizos, gotcha

>>51615265
she was announced after the tickets were sold out

>>51615294
Henya is a gift, shes a comically hopeless introvert but she does her best to make friends and interact with people

>>51615193
They've been saying that for months

>>51614072
Didn't stream

>>51615318
Not to mention contract renewals were in April

>>51615265
>Imagine all the people that paid to meet nazuna on offkai

>>51615193
What I pieced together is that she said that there will be a negative announcement in a month or/and she will be quiting her "job". Don't just trust my word on it, they are so vague all the time

>>51614808
ludwig slept on stream during his subathon, and that stream set the standard that every subsequent subathon has aspired to

>>51615193
>members only
>no archive
Yeah sure she did

FUCK I had to leave to do normie shit and missed the concert. Is there an archive somewhere?

>>51615167
>V-IRL is announced on June 14th
>The next day Nazuna tweets about how she feels very sick, can't sleep, and has a meeting later
>Anime Expo about Vshojo JP panel only includes Henya and Kson, despite the schedule on their site originally listing Nazuna as well
>Today, as far as we can tell, Nazuna didn't show up for V-IRL
Everything else is just speculation

>>51615371 (me)
Specifically from what key's said in their thread

>>51615265
It was V-IRL not a meet and greet

>>51615193
no bullshit or shitposting from me, genuine answer from a keyfag here and yes this seems to be correct. The twitcast in question was public so doesn't seem like it was supposed to be a secret. I'm not a schizo like the others. I have nothing against you but I will say some of you are a bit weird. Hope all is well and if you still feel like supporting her after she leaves that's fine too. I don't think she has a personal grudge against anyone in the company. She just didn't feel included because of the language barrier and that's her own fault and she realizes this.

>>51615318
Unironically Yes

>>51615422
ogey

>>51615389
Someone said they'd record it I hope they recorded the Offkai one as that had crowd reactions to Mouse singing. You can obviously watch Mouse sing from her stream but it is essentially karaoke from her stream POV.

>>51615365
I think it might be different for JP

>>51615422
May I have a link link or a date for the twitcast where she said she's quitting?

>>51615347
>introvert
>has done more collabs than most of VShojo does

>>51615492
I was curious about the other girls but yeah, guess that's the best I'll get (might check the other girls' threads to see if they have their parts too).

>>51615519
It is indeed impressive

>>51615265
a literal 0 people

>>51615492
>>51615520
Hey, I'm the anon that said they'd record it, I got the entire concert

>>51615519
>

>>51615507
there is no archive, I think it was 2 days ago.
She didn't explicitly say any names but her vagueness implies as much

>>51615541
Bless you

>>51615422
I was unironically after the rushia thing and even as mikeneko suicide baiting
But eh it seems she just really dosent want to be helped and supported at all and just want everything handed to her.
You can take all the luck back anon coz if you are legit still a fandead after all this bs then may fortune have mercy upon your mental health

>>51615561
I did miss a bit of Riro's first song because I didn't realize they'd started already

>>51615500
Kson had her contract changed after the departures so probably not.

>>51615492
That vshojo sings youtube channel is usually on point with this i wouldnt worry about it. Now if you wanna see the other girls sing then thats the problem

>>51615587
Oh I got to watch her and a bit of Eirene before leaving so it's not an issue.

>>51615588
She had it changed after nearly having a mental breakdown on twitter over it.

vshojo scaring away a unicorn streamer in a year is comically on brand for vshojo
vshojo losing every talent with a confirmed boyfriend after nazuna is hired is comically on brand for nazuna
what a weird year

Looked at the key thread and I think it's funny that they can claim to have all this secret info while simultaneously regurgitating long-outdated and disproven points. Like Nazuna having a streaming quota lol

>>51615519
If you’ve watched pikamee you would see how much she has grown it brings a tear to my eye honestly

>>51615422
I hope it's true. Her leaving benefits absolutely everyone, especially herself and her fans.

what are y'all niggas flabbergasted about this time, huh?

>>51615564
I don't think this has anything to do with her wanting everything handed to her at all. If that were the case she would have stayed. It's because she doesn't think what vshojo has to offer is ideal for the type of content she delivers. She's also been running her own brand for the past couple of months so she has a general business sense now.

>>51615624
I don't see what's so weird about Coco, Rushia, and Pikamee getting into vshojo

>>51615588
it definitely different for JP. Assuming the same signing period seems really silly.

I've had enough of the retarded whore and her delusional fans
I hope Nazuna does leave and then immediately gets outed for getting railed by some fat middle-aged sexpat every time she's not on stream

>>51615564
she is just leaving the company... why are you so dramatic

>>51615675
Eh I mean while that's true the real point is that managing all this stuff yourself is time consuming and stressful. Kson was doing an excellent job of managing herself and her own brand with a personal manager and she still joined VShojo because it's a ton of work. Have heard the same thing from several big indies on the English side of things which is a big benefit to joining a company at all.

Imagine if somebody in early 2021(pre Coco graduation announcement) told you
"Nyanners, Veibae, and Silvervale will leave Vshojo. Uruha Rushia, Kiryu Coco, and Pikamee will join though."

>>51615628
refer to >>51615219
they're the most delusional fanbase I've ever seen

>>51615620
why are you still here nijizhangette?

>>51615219
Having hung around the rushia threads, I can confirm this is a long-standing, well-established tradition.

>>51615735
While this is true, Kson also benefited the most from Vshojo's help because she spoke the language and was able to inquire about all the tools that were available to her. Nazuna was completely in the dark on what vshojo could have done to make her year go by smoother. Because of the language barrier Nazuna thought they only thing she was able to do was just stream.

>mehera lost her job coz she went suicidal and apeshit over her fans finding out about her rl bs
>vshojo is the only corp dumb enough to hire this menhera
>complains shes not as popular as her old persona necause she never streams anything besides apex
>wants to quit because schizo menhera voices in her head
>become even more irrelevant now that everyone literally has her blacklisted
Like clockwork

Some of you niggas need to take a chill pill

>>51615831
last I heard she's not blacklisted anymore. She's even getting into voice acting now.

>>51615820
And did she not ask JP staff? Or Kson? Like you can say there's a lot she didn't know about in terms of benefits but there are other Japanese speakers in the company.

I genuinely don't understand you. Why are so mad? lol
If she doesn't see a reason to stay and decides to leave what's wrong with that?

>>51615876
This is a fair point and there's no other way to answer this besides saying she's just retarded...so yeah

MALE ON YUZU STREAM AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51615876
The JP CEO did translations for her before she got an actual translator so she could've just asked him

>>51615372
>every
Except every vtuber who doesn't do it. Mouse is, to my knowledge, the only vtuber who has slept in front of her camera capturing her movements because of her bedge situation. The rest just put a png up and fuck off to their room to sleep. Or in Rainhoe's case, go play games with Vei offstream.

>>51615820
Vshojo literally has japanese staff, office and management. She even refuses to interact with fellow vshojo jp like henya. Nazuna has no excuse

>>51614072
You need to be able to speak English

>>51615915
Yeah, me.

>Nazuna decides to not sign on for another year quietly without incident and makes sure to let her fans know in advance so it doesn't shock anybody and people can emotionally prepare
>REEEEEEE I HOPE SHE GETS PORKED BY AN OJISAN AND SHE AND HER FANS KILL THEMSELVES
wtf bros
she doesn't hate the talents Jesus Christ

>>51615890
Very few people are mad. But a lot of people like to stir shit up. Just ignore them

>never watched her
>is upset she is leaving

>>51615820
that's a bullshit excuse, VshojoJP has JAPANESE staff from the CEO on down.

>>51615931
>refuses to interact with fellow vshojo jp like henya
This rrat was slain a while ago after she chatted in Henya's stream
>I'll be back
>Which are you better at, Japanese or English, Henya-chan?

>the falseflaggers are here
let's see what they do with nazuna
this should be interesting

>>51616017
tribalism at it's finest. Even if it's something they don't care about once they no longer own it they become infuriated

>>51615890
Because she refuses to actually leave and have been baiting her fans to hate us all the while refusing to have anything to do with the other members. Like why is she even here causing problems cancelling on events last minute and refusing appearances and collab requests. Dude we could have gotten delutaya she was intrested until this bitch started beef with her even threathening to sue

>>51616055
What's interesting about people falling for lazy bait? It happens here 24/7

I'm just glad nazuna and henya became friendly before the end
happy endings and all that

>>51615978
this, I seriously don't understand why people are mad. If she leaves peacefully without shit-talking her coworkers, then it's the best outcome for everyone.

oh they're already twisting it to tribalism, I see...
not the most original angle

Ah yes, we gonna have another thread where 90% of posts will be falseflaggers and samefags from both sides will triggering each other. This will last for months isn't it.........

>>51616049
Oh boi one chat message after henya has repeatedly asked to play with her on all platforms like an excited little brat

>>51616123
nah, I give it like 1 thread

>>51616076
>have been baiting her fans to hate us
lmao what
take your meds take your meds TAKE YOUR MEDS

What should I cum to

>>51616076
go outside lmao

>>51615915
Just a roommate.
She moved into the place on her own, but gets so scared being by herself at night that she asked a friend to move in with her like three days later.

>>51615628
Keyfag here
We believed you about their being no quotas up until March when Nazuna started implying it. Now that you guys admit she's probably leaving, would you not admit that the existence of the quota could explain why she was streaming on Nazuna quite frequently despite putting low effort into her streams or streaming while in a bad mood or sick

>>51616123
It’ll be back to solid mouseposting by next thread, don’t worry

>>51616163
>Just a roommate.

>>51616163
>Just a roommate.

imagine getting upset because of milkfags lmao

Actual keyfag here
Nazuna is staying disregard those other faggots

>>51616167
There is no quota moron or else hime would have been fired by now

tits

>>51616145
keyfags-vshojo-anti hasn't been crapping up the thread for months?

>>51616163

>>51616167
Sorry friend but a much more likely explanation is that she had a poor word choice or she misunderstood something or, unlikely as it is, she may have been part of an ad incentive that requires a quota. But VShojo's never required quotas for its streamers. Hime famously went almost 6 months without a stream in the exact same timeframe you're mentioning and she's still around and continued to be infrequent after.

>>51616205
Different contracts

>>51616202
Proof? Next thread?

>>51616209
just like the anti-Nazuna guy hasn't been crapping their threads, right?

>>51616167
Hime

>>51616241
next month when she's still there

>>51616132
She was never a big collaber, anon...she ranted about collabs yesterday unironically lmao

>>51616167
Quota doesn't correlate with other talents. It's only her issue, IF it's real. The only reason I consider it plausible is because of a her weird third party agreement. People like to bring up hime, but haruka is the most recent member besides henya and she barely streams. We probably need to look at her streaming hours each month as well, but I am to lazy to do that

>>51616231
Yeah, different contracts so
Why do you think "someone" got mad at her over the sleeping streams?

>>51616233
Cope

>>51616264
Kson did one right after that though?

>>51616209
HOW THE FUCK IS ONE AUTIST HER FAULT LMAO
THAT FAGGOT DOESN'T EVEN SPEAK JAPANESE
HE CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE IS SAYING

>>51616264
I thought her thread had agreed it was 5ch who got mad at her. Kson did a sleeping stream right after Nazuna and she never mentioned anyone getting mad at her over it.

>>51616262
are we memoryholing that time she got angry at that chatter suggesting she had a quota? it wasn't even that long ago

>>51616262
Never claimed the other girls had them. I literally give no shits because even 5ch shitposts about how I only watch Mikeneko and Nazuna
I'm just pointing out that our entire general switched from disbelieving the quota into accepting its existence. My personal theory was that it was to prevent her going Mikeneko only

>>51616194
>>51616196
>>51616211
He's already got a girlfriend
The way they interact ain't exactly Nyan and Aethel
And one time he was at work while she was streaming, and she managed to spook herself into a panic over a couple of noises so the story checks out far as I'm concerned

>>51616300
No, we all realised it was VSHOJO kek. 5ch was also making quota jokes desu

>>51616338

>>51616320
Again, our Keyfriends are retarded. There is only one type of streamer that has a "quota" on Twitch and that's someone on an exclusive contract. VShojo literally cannot mandate people stream (see, Hime, Hajime or Vei this last half year or Nyanners last year).

There are no "quotas". Nazuna is retarded.

>>51616320
I hate to run the defence for keys, but I do find it plausible for her to do it to "damage control". Yeah I'm giving them to much credit, but well, we will see.

>>51616372
>Hime, Hajime

>>51616338

>>51616320

>>51616289
VShojo aren't mad about the concept of sleeping streams. They were pissed off that she was submitting them for quota hours. That's why nobody cared about Kson doing it. She probably doesn't have a quota so what would anyone care about what she does
Look at the two months Nazuna did sleeping streams in. Both months where she barely streamed

>>51616392
I was writing the full name like you would for like, Clark Kent but you'd type Kent, Clark like it'd appear in a database. Not my fault Vei and Nyanners are singularly named

>>51616335
VShojo probably wouldn't care that she's primarily Mikeneko. The only income she'd be tanking with a decision like that would be her own, since tehy'd make money off merch which they would be able to produce regardless of whether or not she's active. Like they continue to do so with Hime.

>>51616262
It's possible that whatever third party is involved could be behind a quota, sure. Sucks that we don't know who it is though but there's nothing to suggest VShojo would be behind it. Also here's Haruka's numbers for 2023 by comparison if anyone wanted to look.

>>51616261
I think that's kind of the problem in a nutshell, though. Even though the rrat was slain, she nonetheless doesn't seem to interact with anyone that she easily could, such as Kson and Henya.

>>51616425
Nyan isn't though? Her full name is Nyatasha Nyanners

>>51616202
ogey
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>>51616413
>VShojo aren't mad about the concept of sleeping streams. They were pissed off that she was submitting them for quota hours
Quotas don't exist, ergo there's nothing for VShojo to be "mad" about. You fucking imbeciles have built rrats upon rrats to make an Rratpire State Building for fucks sake.

>>51616413
>>51616406

>>51616446
Nyanners doesn't really go by "Nyatasha Nyanners" except as a bit or a joke, tho. She's Nyanners, always has been.

>>51616428
Rules could be different with the JP side
If you debut a "branch" with two people and one fucks off to focus on her non VSHOJO persona after a few months, your branch is dead
And yeah, we assume Nazuna was pulling damage control. This was the same woman who was claiming that she never Heard of Rushia just after her termination because she didn't know how much Cover would let her hint at

>>51616167
so she's pissed off that she streams 2 times (hopefully) a week? because that's her current stream frequency.
she wants to be like gura getting paid to exist and show up at the end of the month to squeeze her simps paycheck?

>>51616514
No, she's annoyed VShojo is useless and likely detrimental to her career, so she's choosing to pull out to focus on Mikeneko
She streams most days on Mikeneko to be fair

>>51616167
>Keyfag here
>We believed you about their being no quotas
obvious falseflag, a true keyfag would never believe us

>>51616335
The point I was making is that it's inconsistent with actions of the company, which makes it not as likely. Add on top of that how defensive keys, and you get impression that anything Vshojo does is to screw her and only her over. Which again, does not correlate with other talents. Vshojo is incompetent as fuck and nazuna/mike would probably do slightly better without it, but it just does not make sense. They don't necesarily even need her to stream, they need people to buy her merch. I still find it plausible that quota is from that weird deal though. If she can't stream on youtube it might as well come with a quota

>>51616474
Yeah? Don't bring up the quota in chat. Don't be retarded

>>51616366
>>51616397
And for what it's worth, I don't think Yuzu (or that group in general) are in the position to want/need to hide a relationship. She has been rather famously open about her experiences. Other than the other Yuzufag around here and a couple coomers in /lig/ (half of whom wish she had a dick) I've never seen a gosling for her.

Not to mention, she's... not the brightest, or most attentive. As it is she regularly catches herself halfway into a sentence she shouldn't have started.

Sometimes it really do be how they say it is

>>51616502
there is no "jp branch" retard

Why are you faggots are doomposting over literally nothing again? This is like the fifth time we have had this "omg graduation imminent" shit this year and it's never based on anything other than free interpretations of random menhera actions and claims with nothing to back them up.
At least wait until she announces something to go full autism about it.

>>51616570
She never specified exactly what was causing the quota so it is a possibility. We just know we had one

>>51616545
>she's annoyed VShojo is useless and likely detrimental to her career
explain it nigga

>>51616596
*you faggots doomposting

>mfw reading this thread

>>51616596
we can't help it we're stuck in a time loop

>>51616547
You can at least acknowledge we believe you about Zen being a female? You would have seen the meltdown had we believed Zen to be a man when Zen was interacting with her in that one stream

>>51616596
just keyfag things

January: 32 hours
February: 18 hours
March: 34 hours
April: 37 hours
May: 48 hours
June: 28 hours
Active days this year: 52
This is what you faggots are calling a quota???
This would be the weakest quota I've ever seen if it was true

>>51616596
I actually think we are having relatively tame discussion. Certainly better than the ones about ex-vshojos

we could just not be autistic about it regardless of what happens
do you think we can do it

>>51616621
They do Nothing, she's lost fans after joining, anti TL, mediocre contract, messed up her merch, no sponsorships and Nazuna is still less popular than Mikeneko
Why would she stay?

>>51616679
We are filled with dramafags so no.

>>51616679
There will be falseflaggers and baiters for sure. Depends if we (and keys) will bite I guess

>>51616679
It's autistic to care if /vsj+/ is being autistic or not

>>51616619
>We just know we had one
I want you to repeat this to yourself until it sticks in your brain: "I do not know shit" and "my wife is retarded".

That should help.

>>51616732
When has this thread or keyfags not bitten every bait possible?

I believe in a vshojo thread without autism, violence, or schizophrenia
I believe
I BELIEVE!
TELL ME ANON, DO YOU BELIEVE?!

>>51616679
you expect too much from this retards

>>51616698
>They do Nothing
Vague and worthless statement.
>she's lost fans after joining
Not VShojo's fault.
>anti TL
Nazuna can oust him at any time if she wants.
>mediocre contract
You do not know her contract.
>messed up her merch
Not VShojo's fault.
>no sponsorships
Just because she is not doing sponsored streams does not mean VShojo isn't grabbing sponsor offers for her.
>and Nazuna is still less popular than Mikeneko
Not VShojo's fault.

>>51616653
Nobody here knows if Zen is a man or a woman, anon, so you can respond however the fuck you want to it.

>>51616759
Well keys stopped baiting jap posts in their thread when they bragged about baiting them on 5ch. They at least have potentiall. Us... I think falseflaggers will entertain each other even if we ignore

>>51616761
I belieb

>>51616804 (me)
responding to jap bait*

>>51616698
>anti TL
Oh God, it's you. I'm going to bed. Keyfags are fucking retarded.

>>51616778
>messed up her merch
>Not VShojo's fault.

how the fuck

Merchandising is literally one of Vshojo's main marketing points when recruiting talent, that makes this their fault.

>>51616698
>she's lost fans after joining
Maybe because she's incredibly inconsistent and spams APEX?
>anti TL
Just fire him?
>messed up her merch
Fourthwall's fault, not VShojo's
>mediocre contract
You don't know anything about her contract
>no sponsorships
Like that other anon said, just because she is not doing sponsored streams does not mean VShojo isn't grabbing sponsor offers for her.
>Nazuna is still less popular than Mikeneko
How is that VShojo's fault? See point 1 again

>>51616804
Apparently keyfags like to insult the japanese by calling them gay on certain times when they know 5chan is crossposting from their thread. I thought that was pretty funny because 5chan people get so defensive about it.

>>51616778
>she's lost fans after joining
>Not VShojo's fault.
Considering she lost them at the start of August? Or well, the Fanbox was cancelled in July so she was informed in August. This was before literally anybody her VShojo tabs too. So she lost them literally by joinin
Kson also lost subscribers as soon as she announced that she had joined

>>51616671
it's just shitposting at this posting
I refuse to believe they're this dumb

>>51616846
Yabs, not tabs

>>51616843
VShojo is not a merch production company, that's how.
They contract merch fulfillment from a third-party.
It WAS Fourthwall, who we've complained about as well due to their abysmal handling of the GoodSmile merch. The Nazuna merch you're having problems with was under Fourthwall.

VShojo dropped them months ago and is now with a new company, Warren James.

>>51616876
It's not VShojo's fault that some of their fans were braindead tribalists who cared more about the company/brand than the talent.

>>51616846
Unlike Zen, Nazuna never implied that she was avoiding sponsorships because she only wanted to do certain ones. At the very least, she likes gacha
Kind of weird she only had a single sponsor stream in a year

>>51616876
>So she lost them literally by joinin
>Kson also lost subscribers as soon as she announced that she had joined
NTA but how is this VShojo's fault? This sounds like the fault of the retarded fans who supported them until they had le evil pink V next to their name.

>>51616969
rrat: most gachas are Chinese, and Nazuna's association with Kson by way of VShojo means they don't want to sponsor her

>>51616969
Anon she is a high-visibility streamer with a four-figure CCV
She is getting sponsor offers. I can guarantee it.

but anyways...
pink love status?

>>51617029
We shall be back, believe it

>>51617029
>>51612646

>>51616978
It'd be fine if VShojo was helping her gain fans, but it didn't
Nazuna fans do not become Mikeneko fans. I don't know a single case where someone started on Nazuna and moved to Mikeneko's Mengen. It hasn't happened once. So losing core fans is really bad because they're not being replaced
Also the sentimental value of losing long term fans

>>51617029
We're back

>>51617049
WE'RE SO BACK

>>51617056
>start losing old fans
>gain new fans on new identity
>new fans don't move to old identity
>abandon new identity
???

>>51617056
Why the fuck would a casual Nazuna fan even know about Mikeneko? If I didn't post here I wouldn't even know she exists.

>>51617056
I had never watched Rushia or Mikeneko before Nazuna, I subscribed to her YT channel after watching Nazuna for a while and have watched some of her streams on there

>>51616969
Actually I think what >>51617022 says is fair. Even if vshojo does not get her sponsors, somebody would have probably reached out to her directily. Considering lack of sponsored streams how likelly did she even want them? How many sponsors mike had?

>>51617086
brain blood flow no good, pls undastan

>>51617056
English fans from Nazuna are either not going to know about Mike, or won't watch her because she's on fucking Twitcast most of the time and they don't fucking speak Japanese.

Japanese fans already knew her.

>>51617086
Mikeneko is her main content and by far the best way to support her. That is her core which will follow her anywhere and likely, due to the Pareto Principle, makes up the bulk of her income. That core is disappearing and not getting replaced by Nazuna fans. She'd have better chances replenishing it by streaming on YouTube as Mikeneko
Anyways she should retain Nazuna even if she quits

>>51617056
Didn't mike made nazuna as something completely separate from mike? She never advertised mike to nazuna fans and as far as I know, never advertised nazuna to mike's fans. Am I incorrect?

>>51617056
None of this makes any fucking sense. You are 100% retarded.

>>51616863
those niggers spend half the thread, and I shit you not, role-playing as one of her autistic and genuinely mentally ill delusional stalkers(no, beyond anything you've seen from us. 'got a pair of shoes delivered and believed rushia personally sent them' tier insane)
their favorite roleplay?
"Mikenyan, I'm cumming~" <- they roleplay as a retarded autist masturbating for half the thread
THOSE NIGGAS ARE HELLA GAY
it'd be like if this thread spent 50% of the thread ERPing as Mikey. Specifically acting out his masturbatory habits.

>>51617132
Actually Japanese autism means that they will try to reach out to her through the company, not the individual

>>51617210
But why would Nazuna fans know about Mike?

>>51617234
Honestly that would improve the thread

>>51617210
>That is her core which will follow her anywhere
Except to Twitch, obviously. So, yeah, great fans. The solidest of fans.

>>51617210
>That is her core which will follow her anywhere
But Nazuna isn't as big as Mike...
Which means Mike fans didn't follow her to Nazuna... and a lot of them, considering Nazuna brought in new fans on top of the old ones...

the only thing i've been convinced of in this thread is that keytards need mental help

>>51617223
At the beginning, she likely thought Nazuna could be her new Rushia so the separation was fine. She even told us at the start to expect far less Twitcasts, like once a week, but now we're back to Twitcasts nearly every day. So she wanted Nazuna to take off
But in the end, it didn't work out. Mikeneko is by far the best option for her career

>>51617210
I think the point was, what the heck does any of that have to do with her operations as Nazuna and with VShojo, consider she, far from trying to cross-pollinate her followings, has actively tried not to blend her identities together?

I hate keyfags so much man actual deranged psychopaths

if this thread started ERPing Mikey masturbating I honestly would kill myself and post the video here

Isn't nazuna sick or something?

>>51616698
>They do Nothing
she doesn't have the will to do anything, how can you expect them to do anything for her if she doesn't do her part?
>she's lost fans after joining
she lost fans because she hasn't stopped sabotaging herself since she came in, getting into conflicts, barely transmitting and her own fans being complete morons that drive away any potential fan.
>mediocre contract
as far as we know everyone in JP has the same contract and it's pretty decent. unless you want to publish privileged information that only you possess, otherwise it's just your delusions.
>messed up her merch
how is vshojo going to ruin their merchandise if it is nazuna herself who is the one who has to make it and earn 100% of the profits from it?
>no sponsorships
you live under a rock? nazuna can also get her own sponsorships and keep everything she earns from it, if she doesn't do it it's because she doesn't want to or is lazy.
>and Nazuna is still less popular than Mikeneko
maybe it's because she has put zero effort into improving herself as a nazuna, while mike puts all his efforts into squeezing his fans? also his last few streams have been IRL only, which obviously will have a buff of viewers.

>>51617266
>>51617299
Wait, do you guys not realise how small her core is? Her actual core is not the 4 or 6k people watching streams. It's the people with Twitcast membership and Fanbox. It's a fraction of her CCV

My Degen Queen Melody Anime Waifu, I'm cumming~

>>51617307
I think the twitch debuff is real for a jp target audience
but she has all of these mysterious restrictions

Let's get some fucking positivity here
>>51615492
>>51615561
I uploaded the concert VOD, here's the link: https://mega.nz/file/6TIRjRQD#QEyFpY8alY5R1RySyXyVu7wZiadWoDpdY8b-y3EVvwE

>>51617389
>nazuna earns 100% from merch
nice falseflag pal

>>51617375
She made a tweet alluding to it a couple days ago, yes

>>51617029
There's a vod of Aethel, Nyan, Snuffy and Tob doing a vtuber themed Family Feud show at Offkai a day ago. They talk about Mouse a couple of times in that as she comes up as a guess in different categories. It's always friendly and playful and close, if that makes sense. They talk about her as someone they know and are friends with, not someone they know of, and maybe collab with here and there, like when they refer to streamers like that. That, plus every single statement they've all made every single time it's come up suggests that they're still friendly even if they haven't done anything recently on stream together. Love is absoutely confirmed as still being whole and healthy and fully there.

>>51617361
you haven't met actual deranged psychopaths

>>51617307
>So she wanted Nazuna to take off
Quite frankly, Nazuna not taking off is entirely on her shoulders. If you don't stream, you don't grow. She had the momentum. She had the spotlight. And she didn't show up.
Look at Henya. She's damn-near tripled her PL's CCV and all she had to fuckin' do was STREAM.

>>51617391
If her core is that small then she should probably do more to engender a larger core fanbase.

>>51617389
>his
>transmitting
Fuck off

>>51617425
Thanks, I will watch it later

>>51617435
He worded that poorly and his point doesn't seem to match but I assume what he's getting at is she can also do her own Nazuna merch independent of VShojo. Silver and Zen did this for a long time too and if it's not merch VShojo had a hand in then they don't touch any of the money from it

>>51617392
reported for violating international law

>>51617456
>If her core is that small then she should probably do more to engender a larger core fanbase.
Why do you think she's quitting?

>>51617425
Fuck positivity and fuck this thread. I'm fucking off to watch this and hopefully things will be less retarded by then.
Thank you, anon.

>>51617473
You're welcome :)

>>51617425
thanks anon

>>51617479
She does her own merch. As Mikeneko
It's VShojo's fault for messing up her Nazuna merchandise. You can't sidestep that by saying she should do it herself. It literally proves that there is even less reason for her to stay

>>51617519
>>51617530
You're welcome :)

>>51617534
I mean it was one fuckup that doesn't seem to have affected that many people and last I heard it was corrected. None of her other merch has been affected

SHUT UP SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT UP SHUT UP
JUST CUM
JUST CYMBALTA
JUST CUM ALREADY WILL YOU

>>51617534
>It's VShojo's fault for messing up her Nazuna merchandise
Read >>51616915

>>51617435
if she makes her own merchandise she gets to keep everything she earns from it.
that's been known for a year

>>51617583
I will not cum

>>51617599
Context was implying that we are talking specifically about vshojo merch and you're wording did not help. Still my bad

>>51614657
>henya doesn't do GFE
Then explain why she doesn't want me to leave and keeps getting chat to bonk me

>>51617499
How, exactly, will that help?
Is she going to still stream as Nazuna if she leaves VShojo?
'Cause if she abandons Nazuna, then she's dropping all of the Nazuna-only fans she gained.
And if she keeps it, then that's just another splintered avenue to juggle her fanbase between.

YouTube, Twitcast, Fanbox, Twitch, multiple Twitters, and you fucking wonder why her core fanbase is so small?
It's 'cause NOBODY KNOWS WHERE SHE FUCKING IS.

The BEST thing for her to do to grow and strengthen her fanbase is to pick a main, stick with it, and be consistent. Direct audiences from non-main content to the main content.
Get everyone in the same place and on the same page.

This is not a VShojo problem. It's not a fanbase problem. It's a Nazuna problem. She is simply not doing what she needs to do in order to see the results she wants.

I'm going to have sex with a VShojo

>>51617704
>YouTube, Twitcast, Fanbox, Twitch, multiple Twitters, and you fucking wonder why her core fanbase is so small?
>It's 'cause NOBODY KNOWS WHERE SHE FUCKING IS.

TIL no other streamers have accounts on more than one website

She's not that hard to keep track of, don't be so dramatic.

>>51617785
But which?

>>51617845
>She's not that hard to keep track of
if you are equally mentally ill.

Love my wolf wife

>>51617785
corporations aren't people

>>51617704
>NOBODY KNOWS WHERE SHE FUCKING IS.
>https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox and YouTube linked on bio. All Twitcast streams are Tweeted as notifications. Twitch is a work in progress, most likely only for watchalongs, and as such, not advertised.
You have to follow 1 Twitter account. Is it that hard?
>Nazuna-only fans she gained.
Up to them to follow over. That group is far smaller than the potential Mikeneko-only fans she'd stand to gain if she streamed on YouTube 3 times a week

Did we really blow through a late night thread in less than 3 hours with no talents live purely going back and forth on whether Nazuna is staying or going? Wtf is wrong with you fucks.

>>51617683
and then tell me exactly why nazuna would care so much about his vshojo merchandise if it doesn't go to his income?
at least I know he cares so little that he doesn't even bother to promote them.

>>51617880
Apply literally any amount of effort and you'll see they're all linked on her Twitter bio (aside from Twitch, but that's a new one that she's still working on).

>>51617939
never underestimate keyfag's schizophrenia

>>51617941
>his
>he

>>51617915
wrong thread

>>51617987
did I stutter?

>>51617939
>going back and forth on whether Nazuna is staying or going?
Schrödinger Nazuna

>>51617941
She gets some sort of cut, just not all
>she cares so little that he doesn't even bother to promote them.
That would be VShojo's fault, too. She is a ruthless business woman with Mikeneko merch, but she won't promote Nazuna merch. Hmm, I wonder why?

>>51617939
I'm starting to think this is just the only way keyfags can get any discussion about Nazuna to exist in the threads because she just doesn't do anything otherwise

Nazuna theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaE6toi4mk

>>51617941
Okay, I gave you benefit of the doubt 5ch-kun. Stop falseflagging

>>51618100
I discuss her non-Apex streams and I'm not even a keyfag. It's also a way more fun discussion than this retarded shit that sounds like two bots replying to each other.

https://files.catbox.moe/er0puv.png
https://files.catbox.moe/70ma9o.png
>>51617976

>>51618223
This is probably the best Silver edit out there

New Thread
>>51618250
>>51618250
>>51618250

>>51617845
>no other streamers have accounts on more than one website
Everyone else has one account that is the Main Content.
For Nazuna, her content is spread across at least four separate websites, and which one she's focusing on appears to be in a constant state of flux.
Fanbox is paywalled. Most of her YouTube content is mengen (paywalled). She is not advertizing her Twitcast.

Gee, sure is a fucking mystery why she isn't growing.

She has 835K on YouTube. 482K on Twitter.
She's spending most of her time on her 48K Twitcast.

>>51617923
>Up to them to follow over.
As has been said already, she doesn't cross the streams. Most Nazuna fans who didn't know her before do not know about Mike.

>That group is far smaller than the potential Mikeneko-only fans she'd stand to gain if she streamed on YouTube 3 times a week
Then she should be doing that.

God I wish Haruka would just completely misunderstand what I meant with "doing the devil's dance", chained me up in her basement, sliced me open to remove my entrails, and drew all kinds of satanic runes on the floor with my bloody insides.

>>51618258
good job, even shittier thread incoming

>>51618025

>>51618546
Can't beat what happened here

>>51618203
Same here, I'm not a keyfag and I was the only one here discussing her last Elden Ring stream