/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I don't watch them but cover is such a scumbag company

Starbros... Yeah fuck hololive for not properly supporting them. I admire them for the struggle.

You could be watching Temma's english stream, instead of crying like a bitch.

>>5147471
I'm sorry anon we like anime girls not guys

Idolfags are a cancer. The homos are pretty damn cool and talented

>>5147471
Rushia apologized because she said some people commented on how rude that was

>>5147471
this is all in fucking japanese so I dont trust the bullshit you're peddling rrat man

>>5147471
Rushia's chat was actually okay with it. It was Rushia herself who was panicking so hard about them. Poor girl just doesn't want get stabbed by an idolbuta

>>5147471
yea but they're also not mentally deranged
so there's that

>>5147777
>Rushia apologized
Spoonfed me pls

>>5147471
Stop being a saviourfag, they're doing fine.

Sucks but they make a living playing video games so it's not really that bad. They knew what they were getting into

>they all deserved better
Robel explained it the best. He knows the implications of being a male unit in an idol group see: im@s Jupiter and he wants the stars to succeed on their own. So far he's a prime example on how to maximize the potential of stars. He's doing a lot of collabs outside of Hololive, he's doing his singing reps, he's pandering just enough to EOPs, and he keeps his content fresh by having variety. He's also managing well enough despite being under the worst possible management in the male vtuber idol market. A lot of the stars are carving out a good little niche on their own as well, despite cover holding them back.

>>5147887
She always apologises over anything

This is so fucking cherry picked. They're doing fine, and growing at a steady pace. Some of them who have fujos like Shien or Izuru are doing great in some regard despite streaming only like 2 times a week.

>>5147471
Menhara hate

>>5147991
Niche you mean their viewers mostly being EOP K-Pop stans?

>>5148083
>EOP K-Pop stans
That's not true for Rikka and Izuru, and they're two of the most successful stars

I hate this too but stfu you make us look like pitiful bitches

>>5147887
https://youtu.be/-JXMMRFzgfw?t=2360
>I was half asleep and panicked
>it seems some holostars fans were a little angry I'm really sorry
>I took an inappropriate attitude
>I'm just bad with guys I hope everyone understands that
>I'm bad at communicating sometimes
>I was really regretting that earlier

>>5147991
Was he the same dude that Suisei lost her shit over?

>>5147471
>shitposting with son
oh hey did you finaly make the jump from /jp/? post your membership dude

>>5147471
>BASED
HOLOBASED

>>5147471
What’s even the point of being a Holostar? You’re pulling indie numbers and have zero support, but Cover is taking an agency cut and policing your content. It looks like the worst of both worlds.

>>5148176
I'm not sure why people keep trying to make a big deal out of a throwaway comment from Suichan. It was said half-jokingly and that was in the vein of typical comments you would see in JP shows as an icebreaker or things to get the show rolling.

>>5148083
You're thinking Shien's, Astel's, and Izuru's (who has the worst case of teen girl fans) fans
Afaik both Roberu and Aruran have an older, more mature fanbase with the former having found out that some of his viewers watch him with their spouses and/or children. Iirc one of Roberu's housewife fans complained that her child started to speak like Roberu.

>>5148134
I'll grant you Rikka but its absolutely true for Rikka.

>>5148164
>I'm bad at communicating sometimes
kek, I don't dislike Rushia, but I can see that she is lying here, roommate reps shows that she is in fact good at communicating
But explaining the true reason would be enter in a war with Stars' gachikois

Meanwhile, based Subaru collabs with Maimoto Keisuke and encouraged him to not quit and keep Vtubing.

>>5147471
It's his own fault for not having balls as heavy as Kaoru. You're a man ffs. If you want something, go for it. If they didn't give you, go for it until they do. Most of the stars are little bitches who sometimes even go out of their way to seclude themselves from the girls.

any girl here want to be my gf?

>>5148372
she's good at talking but not so good at choosing the correct thing to say

>>5148164
>I'm just bad with guys I hope everyone understands that
Every fucking time

>>5148319
Cover's overlords don't give a fuck about what the stars do outside of legal shit like the recent Oga thing and their manager that they're very close with lets them get away with a lot.
>>5148372
Yeah, she's for sure giving the "press" answer. She can't exactly come out and say "they're irrelevant and I don't really give a fuck about them so that's why I reacted that way" lmfao. She could reasonably get away with saying that, honestly. The fandead would tear homo gachikois apart.

god I still want to fuck his winning mouth

>>5148430
When was the last time they collabed?

>>5148568
I mean, considering how mentally unhinged some of the girls' gachikois are (see: Polka's live TLer), I'd want to stay the fuck away from the girls too if I were them
At the very least, the fans of the Animare girls/Nijis/indies are more accepting of the Stars' presence and actually enjoy their collabs and interactions

screenshot your memberships. if you pity them so much you're at least putting your money where your mouth is, right? show us right now.

>>5149109
That's because 774 still has Roberu locked up in the sex dungeon. Bros... we need to save him...

>>5148959

Six months ago I think

>>5148333
>I'll grant you Rikka but its absolutely true for Rikka
huh?

I can't find myself blaming Cover for this because the fans of the girls would literally burn down their office if they started encouraging collaborations between them and the Stars. the level of mental illness those idolfags posess is not to be messed with

>>5149181
He already brought Haneru in as a guest for Bar Robel last night and he's also having another collab with Kuku this week
It's over bros, the Animare girls already own his ass...

>>5148329
>Iirc one of Roberu's housewife fans complained that her child started to speak like Roberu.
Maxium kek

>>5149485
>more Robekuku
but that's a good thing

>>5149109
>Polka's live TLer
I don't watch Polka, spoonfeed me.

Did roommate reps on son, is that why he's such a lanklet? 774 literally sucking out his life energy?

>>5149485
based and kukupilled

>>5149638
Polka's chat is probably the worst in Hololive. I'm sure you know what kind of person she is and unfortunately she attracts some of the worst kinds of fans.

>>5149638
Her live TL threw a tantrum because they used an in-house translator instead of him for Polkas “Legend of Polka” series.

>>5148164
>I'm just bad with guys I hope everyone understands that
Same as Noel and Lamy huh

>>5147471
That Rusia clip just gives me the impression she’s begging for かわいい うんうん 大丈夫だよ messages, there’s no way she thinks people would actually care about the thumbnail of someone who happens to be a dude showing up on screen, and even though she says she’s bad with men there’s no way it genuinely bothered her either
Sometimes these girls really make their own company look bad with this unnecessary autistic shit

>>5149638
Did you see any threads which contain some Polka's membership posts? In some of them Polka literally treats her members as her boyfriends

>>5149638
Man has a particularly bad case of parasocial attachment to Polka to the point that he ranted about how he was "no longer needed" when Polka's Legend of Polka was starting to be subbed by Cover's own translators instead of him

>>5150075
Bruh...

>>5147471
>Cover did nothing
Wait doesn't Cover pay a salary which is completely unheard of in the vtubing industry. Even holostars get a salary.

>>5148705
kinda walking on a dangerous path here but I remember rushia being involved with some guy that got arrested for harassing highschool girls. she said they weren't dating but idk much japanese so dont know the exact details

>>5147471
I used to dislike videos where they collab with males. I am sorry.

I can understand. There's some 100% menhera audience members in idol communities. It's probably a combination of not wanting insane people freaking out and also being comfortable collabing with other Holos already.

>>5150589

Don't worry. One day, they will fly to your house and fuck you. Keep believing and keep simping.

>>5147471
Don't care about Holo girls except ID ones. The group I'm collab begging for is Nijisanji. I hope the stars collabed more with Nijis, their style is more compatible with each other than the Holos' purityfag trash pandering anyway.

>>5150844
Insane people will freak out over anything
But yeah I agree they should just hang out with the other girls if it makes them the most comfortable, just a little sad that they generally can’t interact with the guys much even if they want to

>>5149109
What are they gonna do? Like pull the fuck up nigga lol

https://youtu.be/BNWUVq91V0w

>>5150844
So you telling me Fubuki and Risu give zero fucks? Based Fubuki and Treerat.

>>5147471
Take the white pill and watch knight's cute eigo lesson. https://youtu.be/77K2z92V55w
The boys used to be in a really bad position but they're doing fine now, as far as male chuubas go. Cover fucked over everyone, it's no longer a secret now. FBK and HoloID girls still interacted with the stars normally, they have collabs with indies and smaller agencies, even Mori is working some projects with Rikka. It's just not worth it to force interactions with the biggest schizo-attracting GFE menheras in the scene.

any fujos here interested on EATING ASS???

>>5151250
At the very least, some of the more sociable stars like Aruran, Roberu, Rikka, and Shien have collabed recently with Nijis (Aruran's collab with Naruse Naru tonight, Roberu's recent Knockout City collab including Maimoto and Yumeoi, Shien and his collabs with his sister Tomoe, etc) so there's that

>>5151398
My guy, you severely underestimate the sheer autismo Japanese antis hold (in a general sense, not even just for gachikois). See:
>The Rindou Mikoto-Kuzuha incident
>Kaida Haru getting flamed by Holo gachikois when he complimented Suisei's tetris skills
>Aqua's and Chihiro's harassment by fans of anti-vtuber Apex players up until this day
>Oga's recent break due to the shit he received from the menhera NKODICE creator and his fans (in the same vein of the Marine-Miko BL doujin incident)
And those are just the few examples I can recall

>>5148319
Managers do all the boring business development stuff you need to grow so you can just do streams then dip.

Obviously this can't be the main gig for talent given the size of audience yet but it's a decent amount and there's growth potential

It makes sense on paper, whether it makes sense in practice is written on those contracts

>>5152170
>>The Rindou Mikoto-Kuzuha incident
this one often comes up as an example on here and i fail to understand why because it honestly didn't do anything to either of them (apart from rindou getting dislike bombed for a bit but she materially suffered no other consequences).
however the others are good examples of how dumb and damaging antis can be.

>>5147856
i have the theory kyoani was burned by a reinafag idolbuta but they changed the story to stop any copycat.

>>5147777
Oh she’s sorry because people were upset with her, not because she is actually sorry. Got it

>>5148568
Roberu's from idolfag culture. He knows exactly what those schizos are like and has likely been in the trenches alongside more than a few of them.
>One time Roberu was being needled about Matsuri by chat
>He got a superchat asking him to do a voice line about him confessing to Matsuri.
>He instantly closed the stream in response.
He knows.

>>5149217
He meant Izuru. His EOP fans tend to be a complete disaster.

>>5152170
I believe someone cleared up the kaida situation the other day.
>This had nothing to do with Suisei. The Nijiguy was Kaida Haru who was a pretty new debut at the time. He had antis (from Nijisanji) from wanting to collab so fresh off the gate. He simply tweeted that her Tetris skills were amazing and people decided that meant he wanted to leech and they hated him. He's fine now though.

It’s amazing how they’re all so bad at talking with men but do it on a daily basis.

>>5152170
>>The Rindou Mikoto-Kuzuha incident
How many times must it be said that Nijisanji fans were aware of the possibility of their relationship for a long time and it was just Nijiantis jumping on the chance to attack them, neither of them lost any subscribers over this neither of their fans cared

>>5153383
I don’t know what’s worse, the unicorns or the shipperfags when it comes to male/female collabs

In the grand scheme of things they are doing well. Most Vtubers would love to have 75k subs.

>>5147471
Coco should use her last 3 weeks to break down the holo/homo wall, someone needs to shake the idolfags out of this collective spergout before one of them reenacts the shion rape doujin

I understand that it's ultimately Rushia's decision whether to collab with males or not, and that's fine, but it does put a bad taste in my mouth that she panicked to such a degree over something so small and that she went as far as to talk down to them
I think it would be fine if Holostars were successful in their own right but it feels like kicking them while they're down, the "one big happy family" thing is a total lie

>>5153888
She did Kaoru dirty shes no better

that's what you get from idol trash companies
the company treats you like shit and the public hates you

>>5150484
Why can't any of the holos just be normal girls? Seems like the JP ones in particular have a history of either being NEETs or involved with crazy people

>>5153935
>kicking them while they're down
This is what I found the most off putting

>>5147471
I will not watch your homos, go away

>>5154073
streaming isn't necessarily a career that attracts mentally well-adjusted people

>>5153935
Rushia panicked because the mutual parasocial relationship with her audience has gotten so out of hand one of them might actually kill her. She's stuck until someone more commanding in the company normalizes interacting with the stars

>>5153612
Shh, some of the idolbutas genuinely believe Hololive and Cover hire exclusively female staff. They aren't ready for that redpill.

>>5154301
come on that can't be true, even in traditional idols you hear male staff laughing at niconama

I remember one of them said they can't or won't ask first for collabs with girls, they'll only do it if they're asked first. It's 100% something they do to protect themselves from being accused of wanting the fuck the girls or of wanting to leech off of them.

>>5154232
She panicked because she let the kayfabe slip a bit and revealed her true nature.

>>5147856
>Poor girl just doesn't want get stabbed by an idolbuta
>Yet revealed she has some jpop male idols on her company's discord

Stuff like this makes Fubuki more cooler than then others.
And ID would had as well if it wasn't for ths Connor's arc.

>>5154390
>just want to have fun and work together with your coworkers
>can't take the initiative because a large portion of the group's fanbase looks at you like lepers
>your coworkers avoid you like you're lepers to avoid their fans trying to kill them/you
Jesus fuck

>>5154372
Some absolutely believe that it's only female staff

>>5154390
That's Roberu, isn't it? He's where he is now partially because he takes such great care not to piss off unicorns. He doesn't even refer to the ID girls as -chan like the other Stars even but rather -san, he makes sure to keep his distance the best he can.

>>5154512
It was Oga talking about Choco iirc

>>5153935
>the "one big happy family" thing is a total lie
I thought this illusion was broken a while ago

>>5150484
>>5154073
Her ex-bf is a famous youtuber. It seems they were in an abusive relationship. He broke a few of her bones and sent her to the hospital. Since then, Rushia is kinda afraid of men. Maybe it's because it's a sad story that the gachikoi don't mind that Rushia isn't a virgin.

>>5154390
Also doesn't help that like 90% of the girls are autistic and can't even ask the other girls let alone the the guys to collab with them. most of the girls are afraid to ask to collab with people sitting next them. It's kinda amazing.

>>5147471
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=j69OXuE__KI
there's no excuse for this shit. Yeah I get it, being involved with them might have some problems. But rushing like this to quickly hide them from view while saying "I-I don't know anything about them!!" is just plain rude. These Holostars guys must be massive cucks to put up with this. "warm family" where they pretend their brothers dont exist...

>>5152636
males and females chuubas are being impacted in different degrees in this type stuff, for males usually the impact are less than for females, this stem from social norm that males that sleep around with a lot of girls are considered successful while female that sleep around with a lot guys are considered whore. even so i think you need to frequent numbers thread a lot more, though in short term the ramification are not felt immediately in the long term i don't know, kuzuha presence are fading from the top 25 list day by day, you can attribute this to many thing of course but it still interesting to keep a watch at it. as for mikoto she rarely stream anyway.

>>5154792
I mean to be fair here, during that stream Rushia forgot the the ID girls names, the NE girls names and some of even the JP girls names. I thought she was drunk.

>>5153935
>the "one big happy family"
Literally only EOPs say this now. Legit schizos or people who grew up in dysfunctional households think this is what a family looks while most of the girls were distancing themselves from Coco

>>5154780
That or you get this

>>5154792
they've put up with a lot worse than one of the girls saying she doesn't know anything about them, and I'm sure they understand why. Still feels bad but it's probably nothing compared to what Miyabi got around his debut, the most shat on member from day one

>>5154792
Yeah a lot of the comments are like "the way Hololive treats the Stars like they don't exist is off-putting"
It's a shame the mentally ill are so rich that they need to be pandered to to such a degree

>>5154780
>most of the girls are afraid to ask to collab with people sitting next them
they only get shy when their numbers get big

>>5154964
Miyabi understood why he was getting shit on. Not his fault, but he understood why people would react kinda badly to it.

Why have people just accepted things? Even the JP comments in the Rushia clip are like "well it is what it is when you're this big", "it's for their protection oh well" and "she's gotta secure their income sorry holostars"
Is this it? Do we just have to accept the unicorns and gachis as a permanent necessary menace?

>>5155002
>Yeah a lot of the comments are like "the way Hololive treats the Stars like they don't exist is off-putting"
Idk where you're reading but most of the JP comments passively accept this saying "well it's not worth the problem".

>>5155039
I'm glad he's still around after that, there's a reason 1/4 of the stars members have graduated

>>5155003
Anon I don't know if you watch the girls, but they have some grade A autist outside of numbers. If I'm being honest I don't know if I would want Rushia in the same room as the boys, she is actaully insane.

>>5155071
it's kinda new to us while the Japanese have dealt with this for decades

>>5154926
These collabs actually caused problems for the Stars. I'm positive Matsuri is barred from Stars collabs without Mane-chan in her room with her forcing her to be sober.

Roberu should quit holo and stream on bilibili.

sora was able to go on roberus stream just fine

>>5154869
i don't want to go into too much detail as this isn't very on topic for this thread but as someone who actually watches kuzuha i can assure you he hasn't been losing viewers or momentum. others (hololive) are growing faster than him, but i really don't think we can confidently say the rindou issue did anything to him. you're not entirely wrong with what you're saying, i just don't think kuzuha was affected by this at all.

>>5154926
Festival is based

>>5155164
they're men are they gonna commit die due to some hate comments?

>>5155071
The only way for that to change is for the average fan to start paying enough for this to not be a problem, but 95% of watchers never donate to anyone

>>5153383
>He instantly closed the stream in response.
This is BASED! Give me the sauce, pls!

>>5155298
It was privated inmediately and unfortunately no one clipped it, I'm sorry anon

>>5154223
Fuck that, plenty of normies stream, both twitch and JP side. I used to think that alot of these streamers put up a front and we're alright like Kiara and rushia,but it's starting to look like their more schizo than here

>>5154512
He’s where he is now because he’s an actually good and entertaining talker and knows how to put on a decent to good show for the viewers, this showing doubly so during collabs, and because he actually makes connections/is loved and welcomed by quite a lot in the v community
Not because of whatever you said, because pretty much all of them have next to know interactions with the girls too but they’re not doing as well as he is

>>5155164
I think they were still being a little more careful back then not to step on any toes. They need a fucking spray bottle for festival or something and that is for when she does that to girls as well.
>>5155281
Nah, festival is legit scary, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with her, she scares me.

>>5155298
>chickening out on your punishment game
>based
if i were a holo girl i would ignore such cowards too

>>5155281
No, but it took Roberu a month or so to get rid of the people trying to ship him with Matsuri. I think Matsuri still does music with Rikka but they definitely collab less than they did before then.

>>5148164
>I'm just bad with guys I hope everyone understands that
>I'm bad at communicating sometimes
kek yeah, right. Such obvious lies.

>>5155418
Any other girl, but Matsuri it would have been fine. Probably thought he might wake up tied in her bedroom someday if he did it.

>>5155072
>こういう腫れ物みたいな扱いされるのは単純に悲しいな…
口に出すくらいなら許してあげて欲しい
>なんかホロスタの扱いが可哀想マジで
>こういう腫れ物みたいな扱いされるのは単純に悲しいな…
口に出すくらいなら許してあげて欲しい
There's enough comments to be noteworthy at least

>>5155378
when people are okay with their oshi treating a man like their cumrag it speaks volumes on how likable he is

>>5155444
>shipping a male with fes
why would someone subject a guy to that hell?

you guys have no idea how much the JP fanbase hate them. Matsuri is basically the Japanese Kiara on 5ch with constant "waaaaaah the image of the box!!" until she eventually had our soul sucked out

>>5154964
spoonfeed me senpai. Suzaku was already gone when I arrived.

>>5151250
Same, their interactions would be fun and there are some combos that would be pretty cool like Rikka and Hayato.
>>5148329
>Iirc one of Roberu's housewife fans complained that her child started to speak like Roberu.
That part always makes me laugh, kek.
>>5149109
Yeah, I'm honestly always happy when I see a Star-Animare collab in my feed, 'cause I know it's going to be a great time.
>>5149690
From what I heard he has put on some weight recently, which some anons have used to push the "Haneru is Robe's GF" rrat more
>>5153421
If only it was just the EOP fans, from what I have seen even his JP fns can be pretty annoying to him.
>>5153935
Same, like I understand why they do it and respect their decision, but it does put a pretty awful taste in my mouth.
And yeah, I realized that the "Big Happy Family" shit was a lie some time ago and a bit painful 'cause some of the lads refer to the girls as "older sisters".
>>5154390
>>5154512
That was Oga and it was during one of his card opening streams, he was talking about wanting to do another collab with Choco-sensei but mentioned that he couldn't be the one to ask.
>>5155092
Same, I hold a lot of respect to him for having put up with that and continue to this day.

>>5154733
Holy shit what a rrat, glad she's in a better place. Abusive relationships are fucked and I'm glad unicorns who look for this shit aren't too cold to care about it

>>5155505
>同じV、ましてや同じ会社なんだから横の繋がりも大切だと思うよ
Meant to copypaste this one last, ignore my double mistake with the greentext formatting...

>>5155541
That’s not about Holostars collabs it’s about apex tournaments

>>5155213
Sora is just respected but that's it, she doesn't have much unicorns nor idol autists on her neck (as ironic as it sounds).
Also collabs with males just fine.
But lately she barely collabed with anyone outside Hololive.

>>5155551
I don't know how true that is, but Rushia is pretty fucked in the head. He members posts and some of the stuff she says is pretty damn scary. She always ahs the famous members stream when she came back from a wedding she tried to breast feed chat well crying and scream why no one will touch her.

>>5155547
It's said that the reason why Suzaku retired was because Cover didn't help him in the slightless when he was having issues with his set up, not even when it went to shit and he couldn't stream at all, so he decided that it was not worth it, retired and went back to his other account, where he got much more popular than all the other Stars thanks to AU.

>>5155594
they get mad at her for even collabing with girls out of hololive it's not just apex

I'm inclined to believe that the people who insist for stars x hololive collabs don't even give a chance to their external collabs and want to keep poking the hornets nest.

>>5155418
Aren't the Holos the biggest cowards? Fearing to lose the comfy life provided by the paypigs by talking with the Stars?
Roberu is based because he knows the rules of the game and is playing to win the long term, even going against his own black company.

>>5155689
>Cover didn't help him in the slightless when he was having issues with his set up
Reminded on Mona and her 10 dollar headset mic or whatever it was.

>>5155547
He talks about it a bit here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv74pMZTLPk

>>5154792
>>5153935
>family
this doesn't includes the homos btw, it was term used exclusively for hololive. i don't know why people keep mentioning it as if the homo are being ostracize when they were never included in the first place. holostar is it's own thing, let them fend for themselves stop normalizing leeching, the girls are prospering by never interacting with the homos, do you want to turn this into nijisanji or something? just watch nijisanji then if you want to see male-female interactions that badly.

>>5155724
I don't think collabs between them are necessary but it would be nice for the Homos not to be treated like a dirty secret that should never be acknowledged.

>>5155760
Hell, even nijisanji has a set boundary to how much they tolerate male-female interactions. I'm still salty about the death of ebimaru.

>>5155724
The issue isn't collabs, the issue is them being shoved under the rug by fans, other holos and corporate

>>5155788
This, some of them treat them like members that graduated in disgrace and can't be mentioned

More rushia holostars spaghetti https://youtu.be/-JXMMRFzgfw?t=2356

>>5155689
I was asking about Miyabi getting shit on from debut

>>5155685
>members stream when she came back from a wedding she tried to breast feed chat well crying and scream why no one will touch her.
... Holy shit...

>>5155724
being animare's cumdumpster doesn't excuse being ignored by your own ppl

>>5155724
starbros... how do we save them from these animare whores...

>>5155885
Rushia has some problems, I try to blame her for acting autistic

>>5155760
>stop normalizing leechin
cover constantly pushes unpopular holos like mel or roboco into collabs it's already normalized

>>5155952
I meant try not.

>>5155685
Wym by breastfeed chat? Like literally or giving them info

>>5155541
I thought festival was shit on by jops mainly because she was shit at apex despite being diamond?
Well, masters now but still

>>5155724
externals are good but the thread's complaint is stars hasn't been allowed to share the spotlight and growth with the rest of hololive because of a combination of idolfags and numberfags. The best of them are barely scratching 100k when 400k is "literal who" tier among the girls, and can't even get a functioning stream setup when the girls are given inside contacts to buy 3090s

>>5155760
typical idolnigger routine. first they deny the offense and when exposed they go full edgy and say that they actually deserve to get treated like this because $. like a fucking kike

Out of everyone I want to see Aqua interact with the Stars

>>5156032
male idols operate under a different meta in the industr

simple as

>>5156001
She didn't stream herself doing it if that was you meant, at least I think.

>>5156054
Aqua and Astel playing Apex would cause an autism singularity

>>5155952
try translating that line by line and it might come out less shitty. i can't even make heads or tails of it

>>5156054
>Diagnosed with chronic rhinitis
>Instructed to take her meds and come back in a week
>Meds taste bad so she didn't take them
>Doesn't like going to the doctor becuase she is afraid of talking to them by herself so she never went on a checkup
>It got so bad she had daily nosebleeds, lost her voice and was very ill in general
>Take a whole month off do to this
You want them to take care of a literally retarded autistic child who is afraid to order food through the drive through becuase there is people she has to take the food from?
>>5156112
That could be fun.

>>5156054
that would unironically be the final yab for jops

>>5156143
When Rushia has crazy attack's she types a lot of random shit that doesn't make sense even in Japanese. I think the context of that was Rushia stalks all of her fans of twitter and she seen one of them retweeting some other girl

>>5156112
Not only would the servers explode, the entire game might crash and need weeks-long maintenance just to recover from the sheer power of spaghetti spilling from these two

>>5155876
Here you go https://youtu.be/Vv74pMZTLPk

>>5156282
this is beyond scummy does she have no shame

>>5156356
Rushia is actaully crazy

>>5155728
The word coward has no power against girls.

>>5156323
>Aqua get's Astel to do the pogo pogo dance with her

>>5156263
Does she really have that many idolfags? I thought she'd get some immunity from that with the whole being too retarded to function in society thing

As someone who never really followed JP internet culture, are there "bro streamers" like males who get the biggest numbers on twitch streamers like forsen or xqc? Why do I get the feeling that most successful male chuubas are for the fujo audience?

>>5154301
They'd be going "Yahk Deculture!" while others faint at possible male and female interaction.

>>5156383
*Japanese people

>>5156207
How ahs this girl survived this long without dying?

>>5156438
Yes, there are normal bro streamers. I think the most popular streamer is a dude

>>5156438
Nijisanji has male streamers that appeal to men and different ones that appeal to women
Maimoto's audience is mainly male while Fuwa or Akina's audience is mainly female

Don't mind me, just felt like spoonfeeding everyone itt.

>>5155876
lots of stuff like
>saying they'll be a failure because of him
>he has less to offer than a girl with no talent
>he's going to try and leech off of the girls since nobody wants him
>people worried their oshi will be exposed to a male/treating him like a predator
>flaming most of his tweets unless they were extremely bland, then shitting on him for making only extremely safe tweets
etc, it got so bad he could hardly eat or sleep and banned himself from looking at twitter aside from posting necessary stuff, see >>5156343

>>5156438
Biggest one is tokyo ghoul and he has all of the Fujo's

>>5155371
Sure plenty of normies stream, but the menheras, the autists, the NEETs and the schizo streamers are the one people want to watch.
People don't want to watch 2 hours of streamers acting like normal human beings on screen, they want to watch and ask "what the fuck is wrong with this guy lol this is crazy haha"

>>5156323
You're assuming Apex's servers don't go down to a sneeze in the same zip code as the server room.
Nah, the autism singularity would cause Apex to become self-aware and itself an autist that fills their third slot.

>>5156541
Anon... all of this was proven to be just rrats, especially Oga's

i do agree that hololive and stars should interact more but Rushia is 100% not the bridge to do that.
hell if we reach a point where interaction is normal i think she would probable be the one that interact the least, noel would be the other big one.

>>5156649
>menheras, the autists, the NEETs and the schizo streamers
This describes pretty much every girl in hololive. I actaully think Nene is a alien or something

>>5156743
You mean Nene is god's gift.

>>5156541
MREs are garbage, only people who never had to eat them exclusively for weeks are ok with them

>>5156743
same wavelength

>>5156740
Noel ahs her other job, so can't super blame her for that one. That one would be much worst if she interacted with guy I'm guessing. I guess it didn't really come off as a big deal when she had all of those marks from rough sex after her spa trip.

>>5156438
bros: yashiro, maimoto, chaika
fujo: akina, valz members
yumejo: fuwa, (sort of) kagami
mix: kanae, kuzuha, (sort of) kenmochi

worth to note you can find BL/yaoi art for pretty much any male niji if you dig enough but this is more indicative of females being willing to ship any males that breathe than a streamer being fujobait

>>5155457
>>5149862
>>5148705
>>5148372
nobody cares, homos

>>5156867
Those two would have so much fun.

>>5156885
meant to reply to >>5156540 but whatever

>>5156857
There's a couple that are okay, but it's not food I would actively pursue.

>>5156570
Wrong. All fujos go to Kanae. Kuzuha still has mostly male viewers

>>5156438
It's complicated. Most successful Niji males usually have both male-dominant viewership as well as an army of fujo paypigs. Kanae, Kuzuha, Kenmochi, you name them. It's not as incompatible as most people would think. Unlike Holo unicornfags Niji fujos are actually alot easier to appease, just get two males to collab and interact normally, you can even get him to collab with women in other times.

>>5156949
>Kuzuha still has mostly male viewers
Bullshit

>>5156438
Yes there are popular jap normalfag streamers on twitch, but what does this have to do with the thread

>>5156544
Jesus Christo even /vt/ SEAniggers don't go that far

>>5155788
>>5155822
>>5155842
Exactly, actual fans of the Stars just want them to stop being treated like they don't exist and receive some actual recognition from the Branch and Cover.
>>5155805
Tbf, from what I have heard that was because of shipfags getting too annoying and Ebio and Ars deciding to limit their collabs due to that, same with Benizuwa.
>>5155728
Yeah, but what can we do? I mean I understand it and all, but it really does feel a bit scummy overall.
>>5156544
Man, I saw the clip and stream were he talked about this but it still hurts to see, mad respect to him for having endured all that shit.

>>5156972
He posted stats sometimes ago and only like 10% of his subs are female while kanae has 30%

Leave Matsui alone in the room with one of them and see what happens.

>>5156891
This is a homo thread nigger go back

>>5155760
>when they were never included in the first place
>HOLOlive
>HOLOstars
I guess Cover is truly an incompetent company to not see the brand dilution of having two groups named similarly but not having anything in relation to each other. Of course, if anon is right. >doubt

>>5155724
people who want collabs between Holos and Stars don't want it because they dislike the collabs between outside chuubas, it's because they got into Stars through Hololive and want their two favourite things to mix

>>5156992
Japs not only extremely mentally ill but also highly inflammatory pls andahstand

>>5157083
To be fair, it's even like that on their website

>>5157116
Only takes one small thing to set people off.

>>5156541
>temma
>dumb as dirt
I know it doesn't disprove anything but he's learning english at an incredible pace and his notes are super detailed and neat, if anything he has the vibe of an excellent student.

Also something that bothers the JP fanbase is that they consider Niji males to be goofy college students while Stars are viewed as handsome "host-type" chuubas. This is why they are a lot more bothered by a collab with stars than a Niji male(no one cared when subaru collabed with maimoto but she never dared approaching stars)

>>5156949
who do you think those fujos ship him with, retard? or are you one of those dumb fucks who just uses fujo as a synonym for female?

>>5156978
if idolbuta are such a toxic culture that the stars are treated like nonexistent garbage why don't they go the route of the successful male streamers that also do idol shit, get an actual audience and appease the numberfags in management and force cover to acknowledge their existence? That seems like a better success story than just lying down and moping about idolniggers being idolniggers about their pretend gfs.

>>5157116
Don't make me talk about janitor's

>>5157055
anon... kanae recently said his female viewership is at about 60%

>>5157180
That's quite literally how they're marketed though, the Holostars are male idols, that's not gonna change

>>5156706
let men believe in my rrats, anonchaama... they're all I have left

>>5157180
>host-type
imagine a world where Robert could be the host of holotalk and brush up on his english while reminding people that holostars exists

>>5157210
lamy look away....

>>5157258
Not that kind of host anon, like a host club host

>>5157241
ok retard

>>5155760
I don't care about collab begging and it's fine if they don't want to interact with eachother in streams but avoiding literally acknowledging each other existence's definitely a bit much.

>>5157258
wrong type of host
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Host_clubs

>>5155750
Nijifags tried the exact same shit with Hajime when he first debuted but he just didn't give a fuck.

>>5156433
Aqua, Pekora, Miko and Rushia have the biggest autistic incel fandoms

>>5157201
This post is confusing me, are you just saying that they should stop being boring, that they should leave Cover and become regular streamers, or what
They’re already doing their own thing, it’s not like they’re trying to leech off of or need help from the girls, I think you’re missing the point

>>5157250
Wtf you should be glad it's just rrats anon, it's pretty fucking grim if they're actually going to literally die in poverty without Holostars

>>5157241
The other way around, it recently rose from being around 30% for quite a while to 40%.

>>5157201
coz most of them are honestly uninteresting without heavy brand support. Gatchman is a fucking indie and mogs all the stars, even collabed with Sora lol

>>5157344
And 3/4 of those girls are literally autistic or crazy.

>>5157241
Kanae homo bros... we are in the minority.

>>5157294
>>5157365
it turns out i'm the retard after all. my bad, sorry about that. have a good day bros.

>>5157241
I said subscribers. He was talking about live viewers.

>>5157344
If we get v to interact again, can she there be a rumor about her having a baby again?

I could name off most girls that would do if they could and it would a small list, mostly because Clover hires menheras, autists and NEETs who have probably interacted with like 2 guys in their whole life for some weird reason. Where do they even keep find this girls, I thought they couldn't keep it up, but then they hired Nene

Are we going to have daily savior threads for Holostars even though they're doing fine? Wtf.

>>5157542
>No man you don't understand, what if they went indie?
It's a little annoying.

>>5156857
SteveMRE (the guy Roberu watches) is specifically a collector of ancient MREs from the last century, which he will pay thousands of dollars for the privilege of opening (and eating, if they're still edible) on-camera. He's known for such great hits as coming down with botulism three times over the course of a year, nearly dying of food poisoning from a bad Chinese ration, and eating the ashen 155 year old remnants of Civil War hardtack.

The way the girls twist themselves into pretzels to ignore them is funny as fuck to me to be honest. Like they all work under the same company, hell some of the stars predate some of the more popular female talents, but you show a homo and its either NOT GOOD WITH MEN or I DONT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THEM like Kanata did.

They honestly got lucky that EOP's took notice off them, at least enough for the JOP's to pile in to.

>>5157381
I think it’s a grey line as far as that goes, they’d probably do terribly/blend away into irrelevancy like thousands of other indies if they went that way instead (aside from a few exceptions) but I think they’d do at least slightly better than they do now if they had Nijisanji backing them up (for multiple reasons)
Cover is simultaneously a good foundation for them to work off of and a debuff

>>5147471
That’s why I love Watame, best sheep

>>5149862
well, noel is outright misandrist

Bossu SEX

>>5157542
That's /vt/ for ya. If you want actual discussions on the boys and their current activities and plans, we have the /stars/ thread for that.
Technically there's the /jp/ thread too but considering the roommate-schizo is back (+ there's the occasional hornyposting for Temma from the aunties over there) you might want to stick to the /vt/ one of you're uncomfortable with that

>>5157607
Ok checked out his channel, I concied this is based

>>5157542
I was gonna accuse the op for using the same roberu pic, but yesterday was him looking up.

>>5157542
Just because Stars are doing fine doesn't mean we can't shit on Cover and/or their employees for ill treating them desu, there has been worse savior threads for HoloID or even HoloJP girls with even better numbers than them

>>5157760
SEX WITH BOSSU
SEX WITH BOSSU

I'm the manager for the next three Stars, and I promise you that it's my personal mission to make them surpass the top male chuubas from 2434.

>>5157760
qrd on this lad?

>>5157672
I can understand her reasoning with the body she has. She got caught having sex with Flare, so that should tell you something.

>>5157774
stars thread has their own roommate schizo?

>>5157540
>be holostar going to the office to pick up some documents
>see one of the hololives and try to say hi like a normal person
>a-chan hits you over the head from behind with a baseball bat
>wake up to shinove feeding you ramen through a straw

Whether you love or hate them its fucking mind-blowing the stars even exist.
Cover did absolutely everything in their power to fuck them over and put them over a huge amount of pressure from what Tenma spoke about before his anniversary stream.

>>5157880
ogey

>>5157882
BOSSU!
>Used to walk around town wearing pikachu underwear and no pants, because he thought they were shorts
>Set his twitter account's birthdate to his Holostars debut date, got banned for months as a result. This lead to him being known as a baby by the rest of the Holostars.
>Once accidentally hijacked the Holostars youtube account and started streaming on it, thinking that it was his own account, and it took him 15 minutes to realize what was going on when his manager messaged him on discord in a panic
>During Sora's birthday stream, when every other holo from every branch stopped streaming, Shien started a horror game stream where he clipped a peg on his face everytime he got startled, and had to stop the stream because he was in too much pain
>Did a cooking stream on his vertically filming unsecured phone and ended up recording his feet, got chewed out publicly by his manager and had to delete the VOD. Decided it would still be a good idea to upload it to Twitcast later that night anyways.
>Has a fetish for crippled girl's ass.
>Sang 'nigga' twice in GTAV despite his chat warning him well in advance he probably shouldn't say it
>Once did a DDLC stream where he voiced all the female characters' lines in the highest pitch he could, ended up wearing out his throat and he couldn't stream the next day (he didn't learn his lesson, and did another voice acted DDLC stream later that week)
>Once did an ASMR stream where he used a low frequency vibrator on his body, cranked it up to 10 and ended up ejaculating on stream (Iofi was watching during that btw).
>Formed a team to join a serious Vtuber APEX tournament filled with Diamond and Master players, on the condition that everyone in his team use controllers to play. They were last place with no kills.
>Fled an anime convention after a girl cornered him and ranted the entirety of The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku at him, leaving an enduring emotional scar
>Made the committee of the first Vtuber Apex tourney restart because he couldn't get in.
>Later was joined by some chump named Kawase and Pikamee in the tournament afterparty. Kawase gave most of his equipment to him and was only allowed to go all out when bossu sacrificed himself as a summoning catalyst to provide Kawase with the Mastiff. Kawase then got champion within 10 minutes of Shien's sacrifice.
>Had technical problems which caused him to stream during Sora's birthday stream since he streamed an hour late from the original schedule.
>Roommate wanted to post a screenshot of a funny post he saw on twitter, but he screenshotted the post on his SHIEN twitter. Post stayed up for 4 months until someone on 5ch pointed it out and the post was deleted 5 minutes later.
>In the Among Us collab with all the Holostars, he killed Rikka in front of everyone in the first game and then when called up, he denied it. In the end he was ejected and after that game, everyone decided to kill him as soon as possible because he's always a sus.
>Had technical problems which caused him to stream during Sora's birthday stream since he streamed an hour late from the original schedule.
>Streamed over a Sora celebration stream AFTER he congratulated her on twitter (he promptly closed stream when his chat pointed that out).
>Upon reaching the legal age of drinking, he went to an Izakaya and drank multiple cups of Kahlua milk despite not yet knowing his own alcohol tolerance and being lactose intolerant. He ended up getting sick to the point of throwing up blood that night.
>Posted a low quality jpg of korone during her 2 years celebration, deleted soon after

Just create Holostars EN and the homos will be saved

>>5157898
On /jp/ is an anon who dumps gigantic walls of roommate information, they posted a shit ton of Nijisanji and Holostar roommate videos. And they went schizo again over Astel.

>>5157904
Would be more on point if Matsuri was there, but then it might be too real. I think Roberu is legit afraid of her.

>>5156882
>marks from rough sex
Noel likes it rough huh kek
She's super hot, it's normal she's getting laid
I hope it's her brother (or "brother")

>>5157823
I made that post because we had this same exact thread with the same exact questions and misinformation yesterday, at the same time even. I frequent both stars threads and Temma is my favorite

>>5157760
https://streamable.com/two7u1

>>5157912
>put them over a huge amount of pressure from what Tenma spoke about before his anniversary stream.
What do you mean?

>>5158061
No it was went she went to the Spa with Flare. She was streaming on her other account when she got back and she had small bruises all over her breasts and scratch marks all over her. Not even a rrat, this just really happened.

>>5157983
>>Formed a team to join a serious Vtuber APEX tournament filled with Diamond and Master players, on the condition that everyone in his team use controllers to play. They were last place with no kills.
This one makes the least amount of sense, unless they turned off Aim Assist. Controllerfags are a menace in PC lobbies right now because they effectively get a short-range aimbot.

>>5158118
I love this big stupid baby.

>>5157997
Stars EN auditions would be a shitshow, there's no real male vtuber talent pool so it'd be nothing but leeches, CoDbros, and dudes with no streaming experience trying to get to know their oshi behind the scenes

>>5157880
>2434
Why do I have to wait that long?

>>5158118
I still would

>>5158118
>>5158212
Out of anyone I want Nene and Shien to do something together

>>5157997
that would kill the homoJP.

>>5157997
Being able to speak English is not a guarantee of success in Hololive. Ask Anya how that's working out.

>>5158283
It either kills them or makes them incline hard

>>5158118
I will fuck this big stupid baby.

>>5158336
Anya can barely speak English though, she's easily the worst out of the IDs

>>5157997
>cute, polite, funny boys with nice voices who can sing who treat streaming as a job
vs
>annoying, nerdy social outcasts with stupid interests who only want to be vtubers to get girls
No fucking thanks

>>5158158
I have yet to watch that stream anon

>>5158336
Anya's issue is that she does everything in her power to debuff herself intentionally

>>5158122
It was Miyabi my bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv74pMZTLPk

>>5158216
If the Stars EN are
>JP bilingual, at least Coco/Ina level of fluency
>actual utaite with maybe one gamer, but needs to be an actual skilled gamer
>collabs only with other Homos
I can see an INCLINE

>>5158264
yeah I would hold him and rock him to sleep in my arms lol

>>5157997
People meme about shit like "Mori doesn't care about hololive" but good fucking luck finding a EN male vtuber that would join that is actually really into the jp holostars

>>5157180
>no one cared
Not true at all. Maimoto himself was anxious about the collab because he knew that if he or Subaru said the wrong thing, shit would explode

>>5155371
Maybe regular streamers, but any women that wants to be a chuuba is likely mehera. We have very few normal holos.

>>5158444
trips of truth

>>5158433
The only people that would fit that bill and be sincere about vtubing for the sake of it would be SEA. HoloID only gets their incline for being girls and having soft enough voices to cover their accent, males with hard pajeet and flip accents would struggle to hit 5 digit subs without a major debut buff

>>5158510
Where do they even find these girls, like very few of them are normally let alone functional

>>5158750
Broken people are easier to manipulate and control.

>doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks
>just wants to collab with her peers
Reminder that Fubuki deserves all the respect she gets and more

>>5158801
FBK pretty much runs most hololive stuff that is outside of hololive, she can do whatever she wants.

>>5157983
You missed the one recent addition to the shiendown from the current thread:
>Mentioned during his debut that one of his goals was to have his washlet fixed. After one year, multiple scoldings from Oga, and a red superchat from his illustrator asking him to have it fixed, Shien's washlet remains unfixed and he has mentioned being used to the feeling of "being attacked by a hydrocannon"

>>5158801
I know she wants the BOC, but she needs to get the other homos in collabs too until it becomes a normal thing

>>5158794
I feel like it shouldn't allowed to use a girl like Aqua, I don't even think that girl is functional

>>5158895
>washlet
is that what they call bidets or is it some other appliance

>>5158953
yeah, bidet installed in or under the toilet seat

>>5148705
>>5149862
>>5155457
Rushia's roommate is a legit androphobe after her relationship with an abusive youtuber.

>>5158468
This is the problem. I have never seen a male EN vtuber that has given the stars the time of day. They only care about Hololive. I think one of the more blatant examples I've seen was Jibo, (Brennan's vtuber side gig made to dodge the WWE's new streaming policies) was obsessing over hololive talents for months but when Shien whopped Woolie's ass in strive Brennan found the clip but had no Idea who Shien or holostars were/didn't care. A lot of EN male vtubers have delusions of making it so they can talk to their hololive oshi's not realizing idol fags would tear them apart and their oshi would do everything in their power to ignore them. Hell Koefficient is the only english speaking streamer I've seen that makes an attempt to pay attention to what holostars are up to every once in awhile.

>>5158750
NND seems like a breeding ground for these types

>>5158468
It's hard enough to even find an english speaking male fan on Twitter who cares about Holostars.

>>5157542
Can we get an Animare or 774 thread for a change? Haneru and Roberu just said yesterday that Animare and Holostars are similar.

>>5159162
>koefficient
I forgot about that guy
he did talked to coco like once right

>>5147471
Rushia's sperg out is hilarious and makes me realize how she is truly one of the fakest holos by a gigantic margin, Miko is a complete cunt, but at least she doesn't hide it.

>>5159127
Yeah, Rushia is a bit scared of men. She's one of the few Holos who have never met YAGOO, maybe she's scared of him too.

How would Holowhores react if tomorrow their subnumbers were reversed with the Homostars? Would they bitch, moan, beg for collabs, or MAN up and do their best with the handicap they were given?

>>5159230
I'm too embarrassed to show my support on there

>>5159332
A bit scared is an understatement.

>>5159247
/jp/ has a 774 thread but I don't think anyone outside of 3 people and Holostars fans care on this board enough to have a thread survive over the daily Hololive meltdowns that spawn 500 threads. /jp/ is slow.

>>5158940
>Got super sick and stop taking her meds because she didnt like the taste thus making her sicker
Whatever do you mean anon she sounds like a perfectly healthy girl to me.
But yea, Japan barely acknowledges mental illnesses and they offer little to not help.

>>5159162
If you search for "react holostars" on YT, you see plenty of guys propping up the stars. And none of them are vtubers. Yeah, male EN Vtubers aren't trustworthy.

>>5155805
>death of Ebimaru
I checked Ars archive and I'm seeing everything but death, you dumb nigger. They even had a fucking 3D collab last week.

>>5159648
because EN males who become successful at streaming don't go for the chuuba route.

>>5159381
But that overreaction about the stars was too much

>>5159734
categorically untrue, see corpse

>>5159340
Is that what you homostars fans daydream about? Go watch your homos while they're still here anon, because I don't think most of them will stick for long.

>>5159683
You weren't there for the giant collab break they had because of the amount of people asking where the other was in their chats or reducing them to the ship.

Why are so Japanese people so mentally unhinged? I wonder what would happen if a handsome man touched Rushia's hand

>>5159801
sad but true

>>5159340
Nice fanfic anon.

>>5159823
You talk as if there aren't EOP unicorns

>>5159801
Holostar fans are not making these threads, Hololive onlookers who get reminded they exist because someone posted the Rushia clip Migabi being sad in /hlg/ again are the ones making these threads.

>>5159814
Were you? Or did you read that from somewhere? Because I'm checking Ars archive, and I'm seeing multiple collabs with Ex this year and last year.

>>5159823
I mean, you have those thirsty dudes who orbit around 3D female streamers. You get scenarios like: "I moderated your chat for x years, only to see you flirting with another man? is that how you thank me?".

>>5154926
The way Roberu immediately stops smiling. Consummate professional.

>>5159953
>get reminded they exist
>still will never watch them

>>5159958
Not that anon, but you can see that the two of them try their hardest to not create situations that could be read as romantic.

>>5160046
I'd rather they don't if all they're interested in is
>small numbers? I'M GONNA SAVEEEEE

>>5160038
Ngl, it was funny. But Matsuri need to understand she only hurts the stars by doing these things

>>5159332
Is that confirmed or just what she tells her schizos to maintain the illusion? It's possible but I have a hard time believing he hasn't, considering he went through the trouble of flying to indonesia during peak covid to meet that branch

>>5160056
And what the fuck does that has to do with my post?

>>5158801
Don't forget Ollie/ID branch too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ll1vWfhAas

>>5160233
Why is it always the ID's that tard wrangle

>>5148713
>legal shit like the recent Oga thing
what thing?

>>5160190
I think it's normal for a CEO wanting to see if the new branch is being well managed and to meet his new employees. I think it's believable that Rushia didn't meet YAGOO, even the likes of Coco only met him a few times.

>>5160474
The dice game parody. It was a nothingburger

>>5160474
NKOdice maker sperged on twitter about oga leaving the 'ma' out of his rpgmaker dice game he made specifically because cover wouldn't let them play NKOdice because of 'manko'. oga had to apologize and the dev said sorry while milking for publicity and oga has been on break for a week. it's pretty much over now.

>>5147471
Should have joined niji instead of the sinking ship that is holo

>>5160474
It's not legal, people are spinning rrats. Oga made a game based off NKODICE, the dev liked it but got annoyed he got superchats saying Oga's game was better, tweeted some heat of the moment things, retracted them, both parties apologized, and Oga is staying quiet for a bit, which is good because vtuber antis and general onlookers are trying to still stir shit up by DMing the dev.

>>5156949
Kanae has a 40% female audience but they're not mostly fujo. Female =/= Fujo
Fujo is specifically BL lover
He collabs with girls occasionally and his collabs with Hoshikawa (Kanaeboshi) is not a debuff and actually gets him more views than usual
I'm not saying that there's no fujos but that it's a mix of more normal audience

>>5148164
>I'm just bad with guys I hope everyone understands that

It's not like she was interacting with them, it was just a schedule.

>>5160589
admittedly I stopped paying attention after the dev "apology" and deleting all the tweets, I thought he got rightfully bullied for being a faggot about Oga's rpg maker knockoff and ran off

>>5160722
He made a blogpost waxing philosophical about the nature of parodies, with a collage of the tweets he got against him as well as anonymous posts and titled it 'part 1'. Yoko Taro also retweeted it.

>>5159823
Anon this board is made up of Unicorn redditors who only post here because they are afraid of getting downvited.

>>5158468
This is why I'd feel guilty if I applied for a hypothetical Holostars EN. I know better than expect to get anywhere with the girls but it's not like I watch the Stars much

>>5160802
>Yoko Taro
are we gonna have a holoNier spinoff?

>>5160934
personally i'd rather someone who isn't a fan of the stars but is legitimately motivated to be a vtuber apply than someone who just wants to meet his oshi (be it male or female).

>>5161031
Nah, imagine a girl applied and got into Hololive yet she never watched a lick of the girls. That would make no sense.

>>5161059
haha, imagine

>>5161059
i will clarify: i do think the applicant should do his/her research beforehand at least to know who's who and some famous streams/clips/songs but i still don't believe them being a straight up fan is necessary.
of course it's bad if somebody auditions and knows nothing about hololive/stars. but if their main motivation is streaming rather than the brand/group itself i think that's okay as well.

>>5161031
>someone who just wants to meet his oshi
The holostars will never outright say it but I believe this is the biggest reason with they're resistant to having more holostars.

>>5161059
Yeah, I guess you're right.

Why do a lot of Holo fans don't want their oshis playing with the male branch of their own company? Nijisanji doesn't seem to be like that from the clips i've seen anyway, they seem to play Apex with the female members all the time.

>>5155760
>do you want to turn this into nijisanji or something? just watch nijisanji then if you want to see male-female interactions that badly

I'm not gonna say some people don't want this, but it isn't ultimately about this (and the boys interact with ID anyway). People just genuinely like the boys and don't want them to be treated so disrespectfully.

>>5160474
>Talents like Oga, Roberu, and Nene wanted to play NKODICE but couldn't because Cover didn't want to ruin their "idol image"
>Roberu holds another one of his imagination streams where he makes a delusion NKODICE in Paint
>Oga gets inspired by Roberu and goes on to program an NKODICE parody in RPGMaker within 3 days (although he turned it into a luck-based fighting game instead)
>Oga goes on to playtest his game which gets a ton of attention both from JPs and other vtubers like Fubuki, Anya, Kurose-sensei, etc
>Oga trends on JP twitter, NKODICE dev finds out about Oga's derivative/bootleg
>Dev was initially happy about seeing Oga's work until he found out that Oga omitted the "ma" (because "manko" was the reason why the talents couldn't play it in the first place) and that some superchats said that Oga's game was better
>Dev goes on a menhera tweeting spree (with one screencapped deleted tweet mentioning how he started to hate "Holo-somethings") culminating in his initial decision to have all vtubers stop streaming NKODICE so there's "no misunderstanding, but this isn't enforced btw"
>Oga privates the stream the next day and tweets a public apology to the dev who then responds to Oga
>Despite claiming that the drama ends there, NKODICE dev then goes on to create a blogpost about the whole debacle, take note it is labelled "Part 1"
>Dev retells the entire thing from his perspective, claims that Oga and his fans were respectful and polite and that the majority of drama came from dramaniggers and vtuber antis but chooses to place this info at the very bottom of the blogpost where most likely wouldn't even read
>Oga gets flamed on JP twitter and has neither streamed nor tweeted anything since his apology to the dev. It is likely he will return with a 10-15 minute apology ala Miko.

>>5161414
Holo bills itself as an idol company.
That's literally it.

>>5161228
>>5161031
That's very fucking sad if true. I'd kill to have a shot at auditioning for Stars EN. Male idol vtubers are honestly a cool idea because I have no shot at the Japanese entertainment industry regardless of how many singing and dancing reps I made as a physically ugly male

>>5161482
Cover should really get their shit together. When i was new i thought that all male vtubers just don't get any numbers and are destined to fail, was really surprised to see how successful some Niji males are.

>>5155760
>do you want to turn this into nijisanji or something?
>Less restrictions
>They still sing and dance but don't' have idol bullshit over their heads
>A male having the audacity to say hello to a female colleague isn't seen as strange

Yes, I wish Cover was more like Niji.

>>5161610
The most superchatted vtuber of all time is still a niji male, he also pulls huge NUMBERS.

>>5161414
Because they're a bunch of insecure controlling pussies

>>5161468
Just out of principle I will not buy nor watch any stream with that menhera's games. Fucking despicable

>>5161414
because even if some of the niji girls portray themselves as idols the company freely accepts male female collabs, so the fans know what to expect when they do things together and won't freak out
meanwhile cover put holostars in a box and shoved them on the top shelf while curating an idol culture with almost all the girls, so a large number of fans enter expecting idolshit and get triggered when a male dares to be mentioned

>>5161672
>The most superchatted vtuber of all time is still a niji male
lol wut, he's 7

>>5161468
I'm expecting an apology but I'm pissed about it. He did nothing wrong

>>5161722
Doesn't help that their top super chatted talent all have insane fans.

>>5157997
Please no, everything but that.

>>5161414
>Nijisanji doesn't seem to be like
Not true. Nijiniggers have the same faggotry, but they lie about it. They DEFINITELY don't want to see Lize and Lulu getting closer to Kanae or Kuzuha. But nobody cares for Sasaki, for example.
https://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-5730-26614.html

>>5161763
I think anon is referring to in a single stream and not cumulative, Fuwa Minato's 3D stream

>>5161507
>ugly
That's why I like vtubing. It puts everyone more or less at the same level, so charisma and other skills become more important physical attractiveness.

>>5161482
More like
>They bill themselves as an idol company while providing professional GFE service.
It's not as much of a problem before 3-kisei's GFE pandering. Idolfagging is fine and all but the combination of idols and GFE means you're attracting the most schizo and deranged of idolfags.

I mean for all intents and purposes it's working. Top superchatted Holos have the most plainly mentally ill paypigs. HoloMyth drops the idol pretensions mostly but still keeping the GFE which is why, again, there you also see alot of insane paypigs and schizos (it's a lie that this kind of thing is restricted to JOPs btw). So it's not entirely about idols part.

>Rushia accidentally shows Holostars on stream, makes half assed remarks about them while chat does the same
Why would link a clip that directly contradicts what you said? Rushia just said she doesn't know them and she asked her chat if they are ok if they are on stream and fandead were like "nah, it's ok" and they even teased her about it.

>>5161414
imagine if Astel tweeted that he's coming home to save Aqua from Apex hell the same way Akina did for Kazaki last night

>>5162028
What's Girlfriend Experience? I think I know, but I'm not sure. Is she saying she loves her fans GFE?
Why is Sora the most idol-like but she has less weirdos in her fandom?

>>5162205
To fit his narrative, anon

>>5161228
Recruiting for holostars now would just get you a ton of Shindo Raitos, gonna be a nightmare doing the background check and filtering for that.

>>5162230
>What's Girlfriend Experience?
A girlfriend experience (GFE) is a commercial sex service that blurs the boundaries between a financial transaction and a romantic relationship. It ranges from a transactional sex relationship to a client paying a sex worker to pretend to be his girlfriend during the session. If the sex worker is male, the service is called a boyfriend experience.

Its one step removed from being a hooker basicaly.

>>5162230
it's just playing the part of a girlfriend on stream, generally without the negative parts unless you fall too deep into your own act like rushia or polka and unironically turn chat into a boyfriend tulpa. Sora is calm but doesn't actually court the goslings, the only GFE type thing I can remember her doing was the casual outfit reveal

>>5162230
GFE is when girls act like they're needy girl friends who are very attached to you. they get mad for small things but then come back and forgive you. basically honeymoon stage of a relationship.

idol-like is mostly when girls are not just very feminine but also do not encourage lewd/horny posting & actually do like you but not in a seductive way.

>>5154073
>>5155371
>>5158750
Only mentally ill people makes a good vtuber

>>5162217
on stream akina is like kazachan gay bestfriend, super nonthreatening

>>5162383
Except the whole "Hololive attracts unicorns" stuff is completely pantsu on head retarded if you use at least one of your brain cell.
>Towa and Matsuri is collabing with male Apex players all the time
>Botan is doing e-sport events with other male commentators
>Aki is collabing with Oshino
>Foxdemon
>Subaru has Oozora family with Maimoto oji-san
>Coco has Kiryuu as her husbando
>Lamy, Pekora and Rushia are talking about their brothers or fathers
>Marine is doing promo stuff with males all the time
>Suisei is talking about male idols with Inui in their talks
etc etc.
If you're unicorn and call yourself a Hololive fan you're retarded. The actual real unicorns hate Hololive.

>>5162683
i know, i mean the fans would flip their shit

>>5162738
I agree but he wants Rushia to take the heat now

>>5162738
It's not about Holos not doing collabs with men
It's about them not doing collabs with their own male branch, fuck it they don't even acknowledge the stars
It's actually even worse that they can do collabs with other vtubers but can't talk about their coworkers

>>5162738
>>Subaru has Oozora family with Maimoto oji-san
If they don't do 3D with Ui-mama I'm going to be sad

>>5159127
Are you dumb? Women that gets into abusive relationships are just lying and coping when they say they hate men

>>5157672
You clearly doesn't know how a woman with emotional issues acts

>>5157774
>aunties
Only wizards posts on /jp/

>>5163061
>he's unaware

>>5158158
>he fell for the yuri baiting
Do gachikois realy?

>>5163136
Yes they do, the idiots.

>>5161935
ame charity stream obliterated fuwa's superchat numbers btw.

>>5162832
Different branch, different fans. Im@s is the same. Roberu understand this why can't you.
>fuck it they don't even acknowledge the stars
https://youtu.be/JsZkaynTtiU?t=488
>It's actually even worse that they can do collabs with other vtubers but can't talk about their coworkers
So? Homos are collabing with AniMare all the time. Should I start crying they don't collab with Holos or what?

>>5163213
>1mil sub chuuba outperforms 300k sub chuuba
how does she do it bros...

>>5163213
She got a shit ton more money than him for a way better cause, but superchats =/= donations

>>5163184
It's so embarrassing. They know that they would never have any sorta of relationship with Noel, so they cope by insisting on saying that Noel is a dyke and is in love with Flare, as they would feel less jealous if she was with a woman instead of another man.
But when you know women (something they do not, since they are all a bunch of incels), you know that theres no way an attractive young female with emotional issues isn't looking for dick all the time, specially in a secular society
Some of them even go further and think that she's a virgin lol

>>5163548
>>5163136
Why reply to yourself, that is just something that ahppened

>>5163548
>theres no way an attractive young female with emotional issues isn't looking for dick all the time, specially in a secular society
this is just as embarrassing as someone who thinks all idols are pure angels

>>5163666
Why even reply to bait, that is the /u/ crazy guy who has every thread open to get angry when people say anything about it. I mean who knows if there faking or whatever, but that did happen as a fact. Unless they set it up or something i guess.

>>5161228
no doubt, Gen 3 of holostars was chosen all the way back in December of 2019(Shien's voice is literally in Astel's debut stream) and debuted in April/May, Hololive has grown to an insane amount since then and there is no chance they'd be able to easily find applicants unless they resort to nepotism(but the well is kind of dry there since most of their roommate friends are either women, or in Nijisanji, or both)

>>5162832
The problem lies mainly in the whole "idol" label both branches have on their heads unless you are Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Choco, AZKi, Aki, Mori, Towa or Sora who don't really care about it much.

>>5163666
How many attractive young females with emotional issues have you know in your life, Satan?

>>5162857
They probably wont
All of matsuris collabs with niji males are privated to.

>>5163980
I thought that was because of permissions?

>>5164017
How convenient.
Oh yea, Holo management also said Matsuri could not be put on a team with males during the big apex cup thing to.

>>5164071
that's for the protection of the males, matsuri is dangerous

before this thread gets archived can someone post tokyo ghoul killing festival i don't know where else to ask

>>5164071
But she teamed with an irl male in Nijipex.

>>5164071
That was more of a: cant be put on a team with random males
But yeah still fucked up some of my wanted interactions
They better not fucking do it again next time, if the girls dont want to shuffle with males dont fucking let them play the tourney then

I'm just tired of the bullshit obvious lie answers some of them give. Just say "I know I have some fans that might take things too far if they see it and it will lead to tons of backlash and also I might stop making money because gachikois are sensitive" I don't want to hear dumb obvious lies that are so obviously fake and take like 1 second to disprove. Like "Ohhhh I am just a anxious wittle girl I can't even look at a man without getting scared >w<" and "I know I did talk to men in the past, but in this specific instance this specific group has fans that will get mad if they see them talking to women, while the others don't, so my hands are tied whoopsie!!!!!!!!!!"

>>5164183
Its the first youtube result when you search Kuzuha killing matsuri

>>5164249
Astel's team decimating Towa and Co was hilarious.

>>5164305
no king i'm talking about the one with unravel edited on top

>>5162857
they won't, Subaru herself said that she wants most of her audience to be gachikois by next year, so basically say goodbye to any chance of those collabs ever happening again.

>>5164455
What a thot

>>5164455
I read that and I felt that she was joking, but I don't watch much Subaru so I can't tell. Oh well. I'll just cope and overdose on meds and pretend they will

>>5164071
>Matsuri
They are protecting the males, not her.