/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

my god, the way i wrote the word "disappointed". I must get punished.

What about looking on the bright side if life once in awhile. Vtubers that surprised you, that you used to not like but now you do?

>>5128951
Your oshi

>>5128951
Lulu.
One day I was watching her stream add suddenly the thought "I don't like her" appeared in my mind. I just closed her stream and unsubscribed few days later. Don't miss watching her at all.

>>5129700
Had essentially the same experience with Ame.

>>5128951
At first I fell in love with Ina's voice, I thought she's going to be the ASMR type but after a while I realized she has no interest in it whatsoever while I don't really have interest in drawing, so over time I slowly drifted away for Gura. It's not that I don't like her just misunderstood her main appeal.
>>5129508
At first I was kind of put off by Gura's popularity and her Maneater stream but after I started watching Ina less and less I tuned in for Gura, I found she improved much at being entertaining and enjoying streaming in general. Add in the cunny energy that I'm weak against and after she declared doing ASMRs I was sold. I'm a hardcore chumbud now.

>>5129700
I hope this is bait because her Hikigatari streams are the most adorable vtuber content that has ever existed.

Noel because she's basically e-thot
Ayame because /jp/ taught me she's a whore
Kanata because she lives with reddit dragon
Meiro because she's two-faced bitch
Aki because she complained to EOP saviourfags about being lowest in subs
Mio because she vomited on stream
Aqua because she didn't finish Skyrim
Pekora because she is full of self-pity despite doing very well (her crying episode)
Botan because I can't stand Russians in chat (somebody will post that screenshot, but majority of actual comments are still cringe)
Every holo because terrible fanbase and because 90% of this board is just hololive
Every EN vtuber because EN vtubers are a terrible mistake, even though I didn't expect much, I gave them a chance, and didn't find anything good about them
Pikamee because of collab with tranny
All VOMS because Gyari fired Monoe
Risu because she is a lazy indog who refuses to realise her great singing and voice acting potential and also because she lurks 4chan

>>5130532
weak willed beta

>>5130532

>>5128951
I used to like Ina. She was comfy, no GFE or drama, and a hard worker. When she had the Minecraft collab with Reine, I was excited because I liked Reine too, but I noticed that Ina was not helping her much if at all. Mostly saying stuff like "We should make the..." when she really meant "You should make the..." She eventually ditched her to go clear out a cave that had spawned some monsters, drawing all the viewers from to her stream POV and barely interacting. She shot Reine with an arrow, killing her, and bullied her about it afterward. I get that this is reading too much into their collab dynamics and Minecraft is a shit game anyway, but it broke the comfy vibe immersion just enough to filter me. I still watch Reine for her brunch zatsu.
https://youtu.be/9qW-D7OnyKg?t=6829

>>5128951
I'm not disappointed in her, I just realized I don't really like her very much. Her streams are boring so I stopped watching. It was a HoloEN.

>>5128951
Ame, although it comes and goes. I used to watch almost all of her streams. Then her manager basically told her to phone in her streams and I started losing interest. I don't have a clip, but the wording was "we hired you just to play games".

She's still the best HoloEN when she has a creative idea, but I don't watch her normal gaming streams anymore.

>>5128951
Pomu

>>5128951
Mori, Kiara
>>5129508
Niji EN

>>5131726
Provide reasoning

>>5129528
you take that back, anon

>>5128951
Used to watch Kiara, the voice started to grate and filter me after a while. Don't even know why.

>>5128951
Hana Macchia. It's been over a year and the bitch still haven't finished Half-Life 2. It's THE game of my teenage years and I'm irrationally salty.

Mori. I really liked how much she stood out from the standard crowd. Then I realized I like the standard crowd for a reason, and while a lot of the ways Mori clashes with them are interesting, a lot of others are fucking obnoxious. So I just tune into her music now, because I still like that.

>>5128951
This "bitch" built such a hype just to be the most boring piece of shit, that day I learned to not trust vtweeters after watching the debut and some streams.

>>5130532

>>5132878
Her rig has a very punchable face

>>5131135
Holy kek

>>5128951
Haachama liked her funny accent before went full Schizo with that Haato / Haachama stuff

mori. nothing against her. but i found out about hololive because i was listening to a certain musician i liked and discovered someone who worked with him became a vtuber. listened to sone of mori's stuff and i liked it. caught some streams. explored hololive. then i realized i liked watching guys better and i unsubbed
still subbed to okayu though

>>5128951
>Lost interest
Gura. Kiara. Mori.

Outside of hololive? Artemis.

>>5129508
>Gained interest
Ame. Matsuri. Polka.

Especially Polka. I have no interest in her streams, but her creative content actually really impressed me with her wide range of expression. She's really animated.

>>5128951
Voms pikamee and her new gay model.

>>5132878
>>5133131
obligatory >her
Personally I hate her but I do love the shark memes that got shilled here, especially the winking one. It helps that gura has imposter syndrome/is a bitch nowadays so it feels less like a stretch. I still laugh that people are mad that gura is popular though. Gura can sing you retards, of course she's going to get all the views, she can sing nip or english too.

>>5131193
thats such a fucking scumbag thing to do. Kaichou hurry up and start a talent agency and free ame

>>5130532
>she lurks 4chan
I hear about this alot but have yet to see the proof. I also can say that tom cruise browse 4chan daily without giving any proof

>>5133338
>Especially Polka
Facts, I used to think her personality was a tad bit annoying, but now I literally look forward to Legend of Polka every week. She goes out of her way to deliver quality content that no other holomem has tried to attempt.

>>5133364
Thank God, I’m not the only one who hates her new model.

>>5130532
What's /jp/ rrat about Ayame anyways?

Matsuri. I fucking HATE Apex

>>5128951
Noel
The more she talked about her real life experiences the more I realized she's the exact type of woman I despise

Nenechi is my new oshi

>>5128951
Any chuuba that does yurishit i drop.

>>5130532
holy fuck have sex

>>5128951
kiara, i can deal with all of her flaws but her fake british accent is the last straw. what did i do to deserve this, kiara? why did you do this to me? why?

>>5130532
>reddit dragon
based! fuck coco and fuck cocotrannies! she had it coming!

>>5128951
Haato, although she wasn't the first Holo I saw (that would be Matsuri), she was the first one I started following actively, but the Haachama schizo arc just didn't suit well with me.
Still sad seeing that she's on the borderline of retiring.

>>5133730
>>5130532
>be chink shill and cover
>work together to ass blast coco
>blame her on 4chins for being reddit
>after she explicitly tells us that its your fault she cant do anything else
Sasuga chin chongs

Ayame. Got really turned off by how self-centered she is.

First, she bitched about people replying to her tweets that are intended to be "public conversations" with specific people. Then she wants clippers to moderate their comments so that she doesn't have to see comments that she doesn't like.

And that's to say nothing of the Apex tourney fiasco with Matsuri.

>>5133661
>I realized she's the exact type of woman I despise
Explain

>>5128951
Ame. She's so fucking stupid it grates on me. Reminds me of why I tend to stick to the JP tubers, at least I cant understand the stupid.

There was a period where Mori was my favourite because she had a natural dry humour and a bit of self deprecating humour as well that made her feel like the realist member in the beginning.

But then over time, I don't really know what happened. The whoIe Kiara X Mori forced yuribait was incredibly hard to watch and think it was just the lack of game content, and the content we got was...ehh...

I really did like her in the beginning and her rapping is good. (lyrically that is, the beats are bit wack) But there's some sort of disconnect when she starts playing games and I feel it hard. I'm not unsubbed yet but it's not looking good. It was exposed badly in the meme review in contrast to Ame too.

>>5133661
This 1000%, I feel the same way.
>>5133818
>so that she doesn't have to see comments that she doesn't like.
A huge number of vtubers have an extremely fragile ego and expect everyone to cater to them.

most of holoen is boring as shit I think the hype is what really swept me into them and im only just now waking up

>>5133876
I still like Mori a lot, but I'll admit that meme review was really hard to watch. I ended up skipping through it.

>>5133661
Anon every chuuba is the type of women you don't like. Seriously none of this women would like you anons. Half of them are bisexual progressive SJWs and the other half are the stuck up popular types. Even the shy ones wouldn't like you retards.

>>5133959
I sat through the whole thing and I originally gave her the benefit of the doubt because it's reddit and the meme review is usually shit. What the fuck do you expect.

But then Ame was able to still have banter despite most of the memes being shit and I couldn't just blame reddit for that anymore.

>>5133904
I honestly think that she resents clippers for giving her a bigger eop audience

>>5133976
>Seriously none of this women would like you anons
It's not about them liking me it's about me liking them
Learn how to read retard

>>5133818
>>5133904
>>5134038
Honestly speaking Women are just raised to be like this. It's not surprising that some thots would slip through the cracks and get all this attention and supa chattos without understanding why they are getting it.

>>5129508
Ollie. I thought that annoying fucking brat will never interest me, now she is my most favorite of the girls. It all started with me considering her "DO YOU KNOW HOLOLIVE??!" to randoms in apex being more wholesome than cringe.

>>5133543
She literally saluted /vt/ shortly after it was made, lurk fucking more.

>Ayame
Great potential but playing minecraft for a couple hours isn't a fucking workweek even if you're a streamer.
>Coco, Mori, Chammers
Their shticks just got old to me

Ollie before she turned into the queen of yabs

>>5128951
aqua
never finished link to the past or continued jump king. kept playing minecraft over and over along with apex. fuck that shit.

>>5132035
She's Pomu.

>>5133976
I think you're mistaking every chuuba with every holo chuuba

>>5128951
Coco. She was the reason I took Hololive more seriously, but then she steered hard into reddit. Fuck China though.

>>5128951
Mori

Most of EN to be honest. I only really watch Kiara, the rest only if they play something I'm interested in.

Kiara. Holy fuck, I bought her membership, and I still regret it to this day. I got nothing against her or the Kikkeriggers, but I personally just can’t stand her streams or content anymore.

>>5134607
what the fuck happened

>>5134618
Not him and I'm still memberD but her membership is watch-alongs, zatsus or drawing stuff.

>>5133543
Usually people here are delusional and think a bunch of vtubers visit here or used to visit here but Risu actually does legitimately lurk here.

why hasn't anyone dropped marine

>>5128951
Mori

>>5130532
>Botan because I can't stand Russians in chat
Just turn off chat you faggot.

>>5134727
Marine is wholesome horni.

>>5134727
Because the people that drop Marine aren't allowed to have an opinion.

Reine. Not because I'm disappointed with her content or personality, but her streams usually land at 6am for me, and I just can't be arsed to wake up at that time.

>>5129508
I didn't think there was much to Ina when I watched her debut until I started watching her actual streams. Now I'm seriously considering getting her membership even though I promised myself to never drop any cash on VTubers.

>>5130532
>Pikamee because of collab with tranny
What tranny? explain

>>5134684
But what happened exactly?
The usual "acquired taste" Kiara shit or worse?
I don't wanna give her money to find out.

Mostly smaller indies, who view streaming as a secondary hobby, so they'll play their favourite game and nothing else. Ever. One I got into Jenkitsune when she was doing chatting streams, or art streams. Then she picked up Dead by Daylight, and she never streamed anything else. It was just her and her mods playing the game and making in-jokes.

>>5134847
Tranny shark

I followed Watame when I first started getting into vtubers shortly after Yonkisei's debut. I realized around September last year that I just wasn't that into her content anymore and than when there were streams going I gravitated towards others contents. Dropped my membership in November and haven't looked back.
There are only two Holo's stream I try to catch at all anymore, most of my interests strayed outside the group.

>>5134871
Dont ask me man, she's the only EN I go out of my watch to watch, I'm just describing her member content to you.

>>5133780
>its da chinks!!!!!!!!!
When will you idiots open your eyes and realize that most people here don't give a fuck about Coco?

>>5133364
Really miss her old model. The new one is cute, but wish it was more a once-in-a-while gimmick thing.

>>5134918
Honestly... same. Watame is adorable but my god her streams are so boring

I’m canceling my Ina membership, the watchalongs I got it for are really boring and sucks ass. Keeping my Ame membership tho

>>5134922
Guess i've gotta bite the bullet and pay up then just to see.

>>5129508
I didn't dislike her but I didn't really have any interest in Subaru at all and then slowly I started to watch her stuff and now I'm a fan

>>5128951
The entire HoloEN1, the more I watched them the more it felt like I was watching your regular western white women but with an anime avatar, totally bland and soulless. The JP Holos have developed much more interesting characters and personalities, so for now I only watch them, but that might change when HoloEN2 come out.

>>5134966
>it's da chinks
Yes

>>5134607
She’s used to appeal to me when she was the underdog and persevered despite the backlash after her debut. So, I decided to get membership to show my support. Overtime, I personally just found her voice annoying, and it tends to get cringey for me (especially the mommy moments). I realized that her content wasn’t for me. If you like Kiara and her content, good for you, but just not for me anymore.

>>5135008
Honestly yeah, Ame's membership is one of the most worthwhile memberships you can get, the others mainly use it for watchalongs.

>>5128951
>HALF CONSENT IS CONSENT

Every day I question if I’m really a fan of Hololive or if I just like the clips. I’m subbed to 10 or 15 of them but I find myself hiding most of the streams from my Youtube feed because I’m not interested in the game or don’t have the patience to watch the whole vod.

>>5135008
Ame membership is based

>>5128951
I guess it fills the bill of disappointment but I don't watch Subaru's game streams anymore. Used to like it when she plays western games because of how she relates them to western media. Still tune in to her zatsu time to time though

>>5129508
polka

>>5133543
Yes hehe

>>5128951
gura, I liked her loli character but now she is just her normal adult self while wearing loli clothes.

>>5130532
>noel
true
>ayame
probably not a whore but in a healthy relationship
>kanata
ZHANG
>meiro
literally who
>aki
i actually agree with this
>mio
kek, based hag
>aqua
skyrim sucks
>pekora
i don't watch youtube kids
>botan
Ёб твoю мaть
>every holo
yes
>every en vtuber
ame is the exception, ame is SOUL
>pikamee
>voms
don't care
>risu
ONE OF US

>>5128951
Most of HoloEN except for Ina, though that's probably going to happen soon. A lot of their content for me has become boring, stale, and I hate their sponsored streams.

>>5129508
NijiEN, though it's probably a honeymoon phase with them (I hope not). Given how much freedom they have for a streaming schedule, it feels like they enjoy it instead of being contractually obligated.

>>5135654
Stale content is not their fault, I feel. It's more the drawbacks of being a corpo and needing to get permissions and dealing with copyright fags.

>>5128951
I loved Watame but grew bored of her streams. Feeling the same towards Ina recently.
>>5129508
It is still early, but NijiEN (besides Pomu who I already liked in her past life).
And Polka I guess

Ame. She was the first vtuber I actually tried to start watching outside of clips. Shes good but after a while I noticed that she relies too heavy on her moaning to have chat gasim. Was kinda annoying for her to yawn/stretch, have 5 or so mins of dead air, into a yawn/stretch again.

>>5135690
Fair point. I wanted to support them via memberships and an occasional SC, but I can't really justify my support if I'm not enjoying/having fun with their content.

>>5135694
You do not watch Ina, you fool. You just listen to her drawing streams and use them as ASMR while you work or getting to sleep.

>>5135928
Ina herself warned you in the beginning that she's there for you to relax or sleep to her voice.

>>5128951
Calli. I fell in love with her design, but her content is just not there. I don't like nigger music and her game choices are pretty dull.
>>5129508
Nene Amano. At first she struck me as super generic, but she's actually really entertaining to watch.

>>5133364
Came here to post this

>>5128951
All holos, minus Okayu.

>>5136018
Gotta agree about Nene, her design is so boring but she herself is pretty fun.

>>5131193
>Then her manager basically told her to phone in her streams and I started losing interest. I don't have a clip, but the wording was "we hired you just to play games".
Anyone have a clip of this? That's so sad if it's true. You can tell she really likes the weirder more experimental streams.

>>5133543
Tom Cruise here, you need to lurk more

>>5136018
Blasphemous was good. The rest are default holo shit (papers please was nice)

>>5136018
Her style is heavily influenced by Japanese rap which is barely similar to western rap you half baked potato

>>5133828
you living your whole life being mad at stupid women? How have you not killed yourself?

>>5135755
you don't watch ame you filthy fucking liar

>>5131193
I refuse to believe that until you post proof. She did an E3 stream recently even.

>>5133364
I like her new model but for god's sake Pika atleast use the old one once a week for variety.

>>5134384
Fair enough

>>5129508
Temma. I largely didn't care about his streams and thought he would be one of the many who buries duolingo/english lessons after a few sessions. 40 days later and he's still going. He's now able to have back and forth conversations with his english viewers. Impressed everyone in starsXholoid mariokart by talking in english without any fear. He even dm'd Ollie using english to check if she was ok after the stress from hosting the collab. I respect his dedication and want to see how far he can go.

>>5128951
I watched Niji EN for a few days and then ditched them, the stream times are bad for me and they don't bring games that I like
>>5129508
Flare, when Korone had to take a few days off the evenings were boring af, I tried Flare because I like Watame a lot, but I wanted someone with higher energy because I was feeling low and oh boy she delivered

>>5128951
Haachama. grow tired of the shizo shit + my god did her chat become gargabe when i was watching her.

>>5128951
That's easy: Haato.

>>5136462
You probably shouldn't believe it. I saw it live, and I don't remember which stream it was from.

>>5137600
They are sponsored by xbox

>>5128951
I used to like all of EN Mori used to be my fav I think around the time she made “off with their heads” I fell off of her I still kinda like her but it’s very meh atm. The only one I’m still subbed to is Ina but I don’t watch her streams.

>>5131193
>>5136112
>>5136462
Nevermind, found it. https://youtu.be/p5xOkRfDwI8?t=6825

>>5135008
Smart choice. Ame's membership is actually value for money, unlike the other ENs (not including Gura who's karaokes are still kino).

>>5133661
I unironically like Noel’s roommate more.

>>5135008
No offense to Ina but your first mistake was thinking she would be interesting while watching a movie or anime. She’s barely interesting on her own streams still love her tho bless her heart.

>>5133661
I don't follow Noel, what's she like?

>>5139097
Dumb but she’s a woman so it’s fine

She also can’t sing and isn’t good at any game.

>>5128951
Ollie. This month has shown no real marked upgrade in quality, and feels more like going from being a little underwhelmed by mid streams to being completely overwhelmed by mid streams. This is not helped by the fact her game selection is made up of APEX, kusoge, and the occasional story game, and the few things she does that are exclusive to her within Hololive aren't entertaining for me at all. On the plus side, in my time watching her, I've set something to move towards, and don't really have the desire to watch her streams anymore.
Also Haachama to a far lesser extent, with me picking her up about day 3 into her schizo arc dropped her two streams later after realizing how aimless the streams were narrative-wise.
>>5129508
Risu, because I was an extremely butthurt chumbud shortly after that infamous (only here, mind) AU stream happened. Eventually coped, and watched both her Nier playthrough and her part in the karaoke relay and liked both of them a lot. RISU SCHEDULE AN UNARCHIVED KARAOKE ONEGAI
Moona, her singing voice is excellent and her unarchived karaoke's setlists fit my tastes to an absolute fucking T, far more than any other Holomem has for me by leaps and bounds, and because of that, I try watching as many of her unarchived karaoke streams as I realistically can.

>>5132682
She said she wont finish it because of how she wasn't enjoying it and chat was not great. I'm sure the Ina half-life 2 stream validated her choice to not continue, if she paid attention to that anyway.

>>5128951
Botan.
She is so subdued in all her streams and not even in a comfy way, more like in a "my shift is almost over and I want to go shit" way, which isn't entertaining. It's just boring.

>>5141150
>in a "my shift is almost over and I want to go shit" way
But that's 80% of the holos

>>5128951
Kiara. Used to be a member, but when the Vei arc started I couldn't do it anymore.
>>5129508
NijiENs turned out better than they imitially seemed. At least Pomu/Elira are actually solid.

>>5142700
What's wrong with the fish...

>>5128951
>holoEN

>>5129508
>holoJP & nijiEN

>>5131135
>Reine for her brunch zatsu.
this is unironically top tier content, I dont watch ID but I only watch this from her

>>5134004
>But then Ame was able to still have banter despite most of the memes being shit and I couldn't just blame reddit for that anymore.
Ame can still be ignored because she's EN
moona actually nailed it the week after mori and moona is autistic and cant even properly speak JP or EN properly yet she bounced off coco really well

>>5133976
>half of them are bisexual progressive SJWs
oh the mind of an virgin leftist, such innocence

>>5136253
>Her style is heavily influenced by Japanese rap
no it isnt. her rap is cringe nigger tier with JP words thrown in which is different to JP rap.

>>5134727
Because the only people who don't like Marine are clipniggers.
She's great and her content usually is too

>>5128951
I started watching the HoloJP girls less and less after getting into Holostars. I'm in a weird place where I wouldn't say I stopped liking them (still check out clips once in a while), but I also can't help but feel disillusioned with them after hearing what the boys had to go through.

>>5128951
I used to be indifferent to EN, but now seeing how hard they're all trying to subvert vtubing in favor of unfunny western whores, I despise them with a passion

>>5128951
Every holomem, now i just watch indies and ASMR vtubers

>0 korone

>>5128951
gura

>>5134966
I may not like Coco but I hate those chink bugs more.

>>5128951
Haato, Coco, and Monoe

Other then Ina i started to despise all of em after they kept telling viewer "that if they like it don't watch it" and then taking away pre-stream chats. I see JP streamers appreciate every viewer they get while EN just comes off as Twitch streamers rather then hololive streams. Im not interested in seeing viewers/supporters get disrespected by girls who get a free pass to fame after what Miko and Sora had to go thought to get where they are.

I used to love Coco until she dared to question the cohesiveness of China by implying that island was an independent nation.

>>5129508
Luna is an acquired taste.

>>5128951
>Fubuki
I used to enjoy her voice a lot, but the way she speaks irritates the fuck out of me now. Her entire demeanor seems dishonest as hell.
>Ayame
I used to think she was special for being a genuinely kind individual. Did my reps and it turns out she's just a very good actress. She also doesn't fucking stream.
>Flare
Same exact issue with Fubuki about the voice thing. Still enjoy her in Polka's Minecraft collabs.
>Noel
She started playing pity cards super hard for some reason. Noel, nobody with half a brain is going to ever feel bad for you for anything. You're a wildly beautiful woman with massive breasts and said breasts are the entire reason you're successful.
>P4K4EL
Didn't really know or care if he was a guy, but the second he put the LGBT emblem on his Apex profile I noped out.

>>5150959
>Didn't really know or care if he was a guy, but the second he put the LGBT emblem on his Apex profile I noped out.
Based. I'd have done the same

>>5133876
I tried watching mori, her cringe Filters me hard, I always cringe when ever she tries to do the tough act or something, I do watch her chill streams and listen to her music.

>>5151235
>>5150959
>Didn't really know or care if he was a guy, but the second he put the LGBT emblem on his Apex profile I noped out.
If you know anyone else that put those political banners in there apex profile let me know so i can unsub.

>>5151503
>i want to know which vtubers support equality so i can hate them for it
What a sad person you are.

>>5128951
Kaguya Luna, bitch won't upload videos anymore.

>>5151833
I know this is bait but it has nothing to do with the specific ideology. I watch vtubers to escape from real life and its nonsense. Why bring that into the escapism?

>>5134833
Oddly enough I haven't dropped Ina even if she regularly streams at 3-4 am for me, I either watch the VOD or let the stream run while I go back to sleep while listening.

>>5135342
same anon, I don't have the endurance to watch whole VODs now, the novelty of falling into the rabbit hole is wearing out for me now

>>5133364
I miss her old model, her new one looks like I'm watching a PBS cartoon

>>5133976
Why would a vtuber have to like me? They don't even know me.

>>5135349
Oddly enough I got tired of Ame membership and tried Ina's membership, I might try the chikin's one if I get bored of the shark's membership content or just move it to nenechi instead

>>5135755
Same reason why I got bored of her content too.

>>5151833
If you get attack for saying "all lives matter" thats a problem, if you get attack for "white pride" on pride month thats a problem, If you support stop asian hate just to dunk on white people and trump that's a problem.
Support equality not division.

>>5129508
been getting into Ina lately
wasn't that into the super laid back vibes when she debuted but it's been growing on me

>>5142798
go watch nijien's recent phasmaphobia collab

>>5150959
>>Fubuki
>I used to enjoy her voice a lot, but the way she speaks irritates the fuck out of me now. Her entire demeanor seems dishonest as hell.
She's more procorporate recently, also probably bored from all the Vtubing she has done since it all got stale.

>>5152914
Not the anon above, but in my experience with people that uses the "All lives/colors/gender matter" card tends to be biased on their own race/Group/gender identification label bullshit, They will use that card if someone weaker than them fights them back after they abuse or use them.
T. Former Yesman now turned Nihilist

>>5152072
Funny how that's a very popular opinion on this board, but at the same time nobody has a problem with Coco and Haachama saying Taiwan just because it fits into your ideology of hating China.
I used to think that this was one of the better boards, but now it's crystal clear that you're all hypocrites.
>>5152914
>If you get attack for saying "all lives matter"
You're saying that, but thinking that "only white lives matter", so yeah, you deserve it.
>if you get attack for "white pride" on pride month
Pride month isn't about white pride.
Furthermore, white pride caused the worst war in history.
>If you support stop asian hate just to dunk on white people and trump
Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
And Trump isn't the president , whether you accept it, or not.

>>5135755
Yeah, I don't know why or how it happened, but Ame really seems to phone it in these days. Obviously she still has sparks of brilliance, but not enough to keep me watching the average stream.

>>5153655
>Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
Lmao

>>5153655
>Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
This is one of the worst baits I've ever seen in this board. If you make your bait obvious like that no one is going to reply

>>5150342
>they kept telling viewer "that if they like it don't watch it" and then taking away pre-stream chats. I see JP streamers appreciate every viewer they get
Exactly because Aqua tried to ignore antis for too long that she was suffering in her recent arc, Shion also turned her chat member-only in her last video, Ayame complained about rude comments and tried to control them as already was posted in this very thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yXG41iyOcs

>>5154127
He should have just said something about "Latinx" people. That is the easiest bait.

>Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
ok bait man, we will

>>5129508

Kizuna Ai. Hated how scripted everything felt 2-3 years ago. She's gotten a lot better. Also her song covers are nice.

>>5128951
I used to like Towa until I literally didn't, at some point after a whole year, the thrill was kind of gone, same with Haachama, Ars, Hoshikawa, Matsuri, Miko, Risu. They started to feel as chores or tasks instead, killed the passion.
I also used to like Kiara a whole lot, watched her religiously, but then it faded and the more I watched her the angrier I felt at her for some reason, so I had to drop her before turning into a schizo anti.
From all of those the only one I have not watched ever since dropping them is Towa. It's kinda sad.

>>5128951
>Lost interest
All of HoloEN.
>Ame: Being retarded on purpose.
>Gura: Being retarded on purpose.
>Mori: She may be a good musician, she sucks as a streamer.
>Ina: She may be a good illustrator, she is boring as a streamer.
>Kiara: I used to root for the EN underdog, then I realized that she was an unlikeable egomaniac. She somehow manages to make every Holotalk into a show about herself. Also, TakaMori became annoying, and I ended up losing all of my interest on her.

>Gained interest
Nenechi, Polka, Subaru. I like hardworking girls, specially when they feel like they are underdogs. But Nenechi feels aimless, Polka lost her soul, and Subaru sucks in collabs.

>>5128951
After a while I started to noticed that I have a cycle, I get a bit bored with some Holos and get interested in different Holos, I never truly "drop" anyone, I just watch less of their content and favor someone else for a while, then one day I suddenly find myself searching for content of those previous Holos again, I think that's pretty healthy, you don't need to feel like hostage to a Vtuber, you still can get your dose with clips even if you miss their full streams, go at your own pace and you'll avoid burning out of this hobby.

>>5155000
>Ame: Being retarded on purpose.
>Gura: Being retarded on purpose
Yeah, I can't do it. It feel like they are twitch streamers, not vtubers.

>>5139097

Literally no point watching Noel when you can watch this girl instead: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8fFzD1Kdi8uCSmbOce08w

>>5155000
>Polka lost her soul
What you mean?
>Subaru sucks in collabs.
I always saw her as a strong one for collabs, maybe you just saw a particularly bad one.

>>5155000
>Polka lost her soul
I don't really follow her nowadays so could you elaborate a bit on this?

>>5155396
>>5155455
She feels limited and constrained. She had energy, and was willing to try new stuff, like reading tales or interacting with people.
After the Hologram Circus MV, I feel like she is half-assing everything. I don't feel the energy she had in the beginning. Her short radio segments in Minecraft with Flare are extremely entertaining, and I think that she could work as a late-night radio host, but the rest of her streams are meh.

>>5128951
Ame. She became more GFE based and less interesting in terms of personality. I still watch her fun streams like fishtank. But other than that, she streams boring ass games and restrain her gamer reaction, making her streams dull and boring. Maybe this is because I give no shit on GFE. But hey, even her Mario streams became more boring than hers old streams. There were more sincere reaction, more banter with chat, but now she is only known for being cute, and then I finally gave up my six months membership.

>>5129508
make your own thread then you stupid baboon

>>5154261
Theres a difference in getting targeted by and angry chink brigade and telling people to leave over the most minoot milk toast criticism, EN does it all the time, you can look on there dislike bar and they get less dislikes then JPs that you mentioned so it's not like they are being targeted. Plus ayame & shion hardly stream, its no wonder that there will be unhappy japs in the comments. EN don't deserve fans if they act so passively about them.

>>5156117
>minoot
>milk toast

>>5132878
>"bitch"
will never be one

>>5156117
EN reads more criticism than you would expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weaCgEkUD0U&t=7888s
Their actions are also an effect of being a late-gen, so their managers already know what to expect from past examples.

>>5156117
EN reads more criticism than you would expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weaCgEkUD0U&t=3781
Their actions are also an effect of being a late-gen, so their managers already know what to expect from past examples.

>>5132878
>"bitch"

>>5152914
based, mutts need a reset

>>5128951
I remember when Iron Mouse, Silvervale and Zentreya were sub 500 viewers streamers and it was much more fun than V-Shojo autism.
I remember when melody just started and there was plenty of cool people in her community. Now she lost steam, threw away her 3D modeler that also was her 24/7 tech service and overall devolved along with V-Shojo autism.

>>5151852
It's safe to assume she's unofficially graduated at this point.

>>5129508
I never really gave Gura a chance until I learned she was Senzawa. Those meme raps are legitimately clever and I thought, hmm, maybe there's some actual brains behind that little girl character.

>>5137088
>He even dm'd Ollie using english to check if she was ok after the stress from hosting the collab
Good on him. I had no idea.

Pikamee only due to the new avatar being so terrible that I can't stand looking at it and by extension the stream

>>5128951
Just EN in general. Their game choices aren't all that interesting for the most part.

>>5128951
> lost interest
> reine
At first she was the only ID that i was interested to, basically i watched all her stuff from her debut stream until, i remember it was her brunch stream, she laughed to her own joke, it was not even funny like most of her jokes, it just plain bad. After that i just stopped watching her and unsubscribed a few days later. I tried to rewatch her stuff again because lately ive been watching both of her genmates but still i cant find myself watching her anymore.

> gained interest
> Ollie, i watched her for the first time when she collabed with ame and RBC. She knows how to act cute and i like her sense of humor. Her recent rant towards her indogs viewers was the icing on the cake, instantly membered to her after that.
> anya, anyaposters made me watch her stuff. I love her accent and her RE8 streams are really entertaining. 1 Million soon baby!

>>5130532
You;re a really choosy motherfucker

>>5156516
>>5129508
Ina is probably objectively the best in EN now. Mature, drama free, and soothing.

>>5129508
Didn't use to like Korone that much because she was so popular but then I realized what made her so great.

>>5133876
Did you watch her Mario Party collabs? They were a lot better.

>>5128951
mori is like a rollercoaster to me. kiara also, not to the same extent though. I didn't care much for Gura on her debut, but the last few months she's the EN i've enjoyed watching and listening to the most

>>5157654
Gura has some interesting takes on topics that gets asked during her after stream supachat readings

>>5156229
>>5156516
The things said in /vt/ /jp/ don't reach there chat and if it does it's its worded in a softer tone, anything that they perceive as aggression they meet it with a "don't watch" attitude. When i heard Ame and Gura say it that's when i had enough. The disrespect towards those that supported or even gave there time to you especially coming from an "idol" is something i would expect from Twitch.

Kagura Mea. Sometimes I think about tricking her into accidentally saying "the independent nation of Taiwan" so that she'll be forced to go back to doing the good shit. I bet she bathes every day now.

Miko: Her new outfit is technically better but has no soul. Her COD playthroughs were peak content. Then she started Far Cry 5 and never picked it back up after coming back from break.

HoloEN.

Enjoyed Mori's raps, but turns out that the streams are kinda awkward.

Also, Takamori feels forced.

Not really into Ame's sense of humour, do like Gura's voice but content kinda boring. Like to glance Ina's draw streams from times to times but that's it. I don't really like that fake voice? A bit too grating and hoarse.

Out of the English speakers I seem to enjoy Ollie the most. I really feel like she wants her viewers to have a good time with her infecting energy. I wasn't really there for Coco but I probably would've enjoyed her content if I noticed her before the meme review. And Niji clips are kinda my jam now (not that much into Mito sorry Mito fans). And drama covering tubers because I need variety of content that is not just skits and vidya.

Whats wrong with being a clipfag?

>>5129508
unironically Korone, being a subhuman EOP I was filtered by her nihongo when I tried to watch her early in 2020. After getting used to the ENs I've somehow been able to really begin enjoying her.

>mori
I thought she made her own music and would do music production streams, also I feel like she became more entitled overall

>>5159612
Absolutely nothing, let /vt/ seethe all they want. Some here say the lost viewership hurts their oshi, but I only watch with adblocks and would never membership any big talent anyway. Dance holomonkeys, dance.

>>5159612
>>5160418
What the talents should do is what Amelia is currently doing which is hire a dedicated clipper that posts on their channel. So many twitch and youtube streamers already do this to great success. Once again Cover shows how useless they are because one of their talents has to go out of their way to have any ideas.

>>5128951
pretty much all the ones that i found out were lolicons later.i get they're not touching actual kids, but the idea of rubbing it to something because it's underage is plain and simple degeneracy.

>>5138713
Thank you for your dedication in finding this.

But I dont feel the same way as you did hearing this.
Ame asked Enma advice because she's unsure about what she should be doing next and Enma basically told her dont worry too much about it we hired you to stream.

She then say a few sec later that she would try also to not just stream game all the time since it would be dull for her and do something different sometime.
In brief I disagree with the mention that Enma told her to phone in.

But I also think that having Ame follow more her creative idea that she had at first would have been better
Since it would have surely added something new.

>>5134384
But, she’s Pomu tho?

>>5133661
what did she say to give this impression?

>>5134384
And that's a good thing

>>5128951
Uto, Kiara, and Mori

>>5129508
HoloJP except some others, Reine, Risu, and Moona

Kiara,Gura,Anya

>>5128951
Haachama, her schizo arc just kept on going with the same shit with no end in sight.
Gura, her voice, for some reason, started to annoy me lately. Also not a big fan of her overplaying dumb.
>>5129508
Risu, Moona, Reine, Anya. Being filtered by the ID tag was a big mistake on my part.

>>5150959
>but the second he put the LGBT emblem on his Apex profile I noped out.
giga based, anon.

>>5153337
>>5152914
Thank God for anons who keep the facts straight.

>>5155195
Same here, anon. I feel like this has got to be your mindset going into Hololive, or Vtubers in general, to not turn into a schizo freak.

>>5156788
The lyrics were sort of friend/community projects from the discord she was part of

>>5128951
All of Hololive EN apart from Ina. It's silly but they're too western for me. I like to think of vtubers as characters and not people, but their behaviors/mannerisms are just too familiar to me for me to suspend disbelief.

I think the language and culture barriers really help in that regard for other holos.

>>5128951
Kiara. I lost confidence in her when she started crying almost regularly on streams, spent 1/3 of a stream on the game/content and 2/3 on crying, and then the scat stuff from UNO was the final end.

>>5128951
All of them. Every last one. Except for the handful who've still caught my eye. Maybe they'll disappoint me as well. Only time will tell. So as I pray, unlimited rrat works.

>>5128951
Amelia - She caught my interest with her first stream, but it turns out she's a dime a dozen twitch-style e-girl.

>>5129508
Kiara - My first read was that she's a psychotic bitch that loves to stir drama and always has to be the center of attention. That turned out to be accurate, but I vastly underestimated how fun it would be to watch.

>>5133364
same with Tomoshika

Kiara. She's used a lot of pity manipulation I thought she'd be over by now and spurging off on roommate's social about anti. She intentionally seeks it and can't keep it to herself.

I'll watch shark x detective collab streams but I can't get through a vod or stream of either of them solo.
honestly, monologuing for 2 hours is a skill that I don't have either so im not gonna dunk on them for it.

Matsuri was one of my gateway Holos, if not THE gateway Holo, I can't remember which clip I saw first, either the bandaids one or Rushia saying GO HOME to EOPs. In the beginning Matsuri seemed to be a pretty sweet girl with a great unrestricted laugh. And hey she grabs the other Holo's boobs all the time! Hey she did it again! Hey she did it again! Oh hey, actually she isn't asking, isn't respecting boundaries with some of the more introverted Holos, and you can tell that some of the Holos don't actually like being groped so much without asking. And she's actually mentally unstable and can't keep a relationship of any kind, not just romantic, going because she doesn't respect boundaries. And she keeps playing Apex even though she sucks at it. And she hired her fucking stalker to be a mod. In the end, I just got tired of her shit. People flanderize Marine as the LOL SO HORNY Holo, but really Matsuri leans into it and runs it into the ground.

>>5164465
>can't keep a relationship of any kind, not just romantic, going because she doesn't respect boundaries
But that's what makes her so relatable.

>>5164465
Any and all yurishit nonsense the Hololive talents push on their viewers is completely fabricated. You are aware of this, right?

>>5164807
Except Okakoro. Come on, try.

>>5164465
>And she hired her fucking stalker to be a mod.
Selena...

>>5165228
Okayu is shotakon and Korone was married.

Hina Misora. Cute uguu Spanish cunny uoohhh streamer who only speaks Spanish and Japanese.

Except she doesn't do shit other than read donations, duolingo, and uhh... scuffed collabs with the other Wactor girls. She has a potato PC but so far I am unimpressed by her the novelty has worn off.

Isla Coleman. Cute ojousama.
Except all she fucking does is play APE SEX.

>>5134727
Never picked her up. Miss me with that horny and yuribait bullshit. Her shtick got old the moment I heard of it.

>>5128951
Kiara, I tried to watch all 5 of them when Holo EN joined and found the bird to be most annoying.
Found her roommate's channel where she openly stated that she joined Hololive for the fame and doesn't care about it and thought this woman is not a good person.
Saw that she shit talks about her gen mates on stream and leeching off of pekora and found it to be really shameful.
While her paypigs stay locked in their own delusional world.

>>5165228
I can't believe I'm having to say this twice in one night but if you think Okakoro is yurishit/yuri baiting you're a genuine idiot.

>>5166194
Explain, Faggat.

All of HoloEN
why?
Pomu debuted

Most of them, I had a period where'd I'd be watching a stream any moment I had some free time, now I just watch Subaru regularly and the occasional stream from someone else if it appears in my recommended and I'm interested

>>5160632

JP in general is far behind on everything.

Look at how Coco is hailed as groundbreaking when her ideas are just rebranded mainstream shows. Asacoco is The Daily Show, except with Hololive news. Meme Review is copied from Pewdiepie, and his is one of the most popular series on YouTube.

Ame's charity stream seemed like a new thing, but western YouTubers have been doing it for ages.

Just watch someone make a rehash of Survivor and be called a creative genius.

>>5128951
Mori - Hearing her do rap was unexpected and interesting at debut, but she doesn't have flow and she's just not fun to watch
>>5129508
NENE - Nene was completely off my radar for the longest time. I mostly saw her in group collabs, and I didn't really think much of her at all. Then I decided to watch a few of her solo streams.
Now she's my oshi.
ALL HAIL SUPER HYPER DELUXE GALAXY VICTORY NENECHI-SAMA-DOMO.

>>5128951
kiara. i first liked her energy and excitement and positiveness. she used to make me smile.
but over time she just got boring, and she never lets up on that fucking voice shift so even her casual chat streams sound terrible.
and her member's content was boring and shit.
i dunno, she was the first one i joined as a member but i just left because she's just not fun to watch at all anymore.

>>5166240
Based. Pomu love.

>>5134966
>most people here don't give a fuck about Coco
Schizo-chama...

>>5134351
Wait, she plays games other than Apex?

>>5133216
That shit was cool and she put a lot afford into it, you absolute fucking retard

>>5128951
>bored of
Hololive
>gained interest in
Holostars
>why
Because I think men are cute

>>5165956
Show proof on korone

>>5128951
I hated gura's stupid cat ears so much I unsubscribed and haven't seen a single stream since.

>>5134879
Sounds like having fun

>>5128951
Not even trolling, but Veibei. This was back in April/May 2020, I had started watching some Hololive girls in March and was curious watching vtubers in a language I could understand. I got gifted a sub to her and gave her a shot. It was ok at first, she was kind of entertaining and not nearly as coomer bait as she apparently is now. But I noticed anytime she got challenged by chat, she was really rude and dismissive, even with mundane stuff. Got really turned off by her attitude. I stopped watching and kind of forgot about her until she starting hanging out with Nyanners and became more prominent in the EN scene.

>>5160715
That's definitely a little worse than degeneracy

>>5166775
FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE AAAAH

>>5157653
I watched it
It never got any better for me
While not disconnected as much, I still feel that awkwardness

>>5157197
Why did her laughing at her own joke cause you to stop watching her cold turkey?

Genuinely surprised at all the people who initially enjoyed Kiara. She's the only HoloEN member who I consistently perceive as, at best annoying as fuck and at worst completely irredeemable. At least Mori (who I've also never liked) has always done a pretty good job in colab streams. Kiara has the tendency to make every colab about herself which only works if she has a good personality and my god is hers grating.

>>5164465
Everything you said is what makes Matsuri kino.

>>5128951
I really liked first INA streams- half life and titanfall. Watching chuba play a real game and slowly getting better was intoxicating. Mind that i'm a clipfag mostly and rarely watch full streams or vods, but Ina managed to hook me in. Now she just draws ot plays boring shit so I kinda burnt out lol. Yesterday's Marine Portal was great, wish more JP played more old-ish western games

>>5128951
-Mori, was my favorite at debut but has largely went in a content direction I don't find interesting, make superchat reading completely unwatchable with the flute shit, streams irregularly, unprofessional with the technical aspects of streaming and often brings down collabs by being completely uninterested and unable to fake it. However her recent TTRPG content is excellent and might redeem her if it become her niche.
-Haachama used to be one of my favorites but after getting scolded by management she seems to have entirely given up on streaming in English and instead going through her own personal problems and focusing on making repetitive schizo streams I don't find interesting.
-Coco was one of the reasons I got into Hololive, before I realized she really didn't stream in English much, and when she finally got the chance to collab with Holo EN I realized that might have been a good thing, since her humor is extremely crude Vshoujo-tier stuff anyway.

>>5168637
Also forgot about Reine, her only real fault is choosing utterly boring content like VNs and MMOs to play, then streaming in the dead of fucking night for NA viewers or directly against Holo EN or big Japanese events, rather than trying to work around that to find some semi-dead hours.

>>5128951
Artemis

She seemed to be chill and comfy at first, but eventually she became so fucking boring. The only thing anyone will remember about her is the whole "have I mentioned that I'm gay in the past minute?"
What a waste of a fucking design.

>>5128951
Mori, Marine, Mana, Aqua
don't hate em just don't like em anymore
>>5129508
Ina, Amelia, Pikamee, Risu

>>5165228
koro is like 15 years older then the kid

>>5155246
>Chrono Trigger
Why is she so based?

>>5130532
>Gyari fired Monoe
i need to know what happened with this

>>5129508
Kiara, she surprised me with how genuinely enthusiastic she is about vtubing and making things enjoyable for people watching. She is terribly naive and a bit stupud, but her hearts in it for sure.

All of HoloEN, lately seems to be just twitch streamers phoning in their popularity without any creativity of other big streamers like Jerma, and some other twitch streamers I watch.

Gura and Ame's chat is literally spammed by the same membership face whenever they do something. I still watch their collabs from time to time. Currently watching NijisanjiEN and there's something about them that makes me keep coming back. Might be because they're new, who knows.

>>5170010
Literally nothing concrete has been said. The official explanation is that she breached her contract, but no details.
Shame too, because she was picking up steam fast.

>>5128951
Rose (Africat)
I still think she's a great vtuber but I slowly lost interest around January, every stream felt the same or something it's hard to explain. Also while she's very good at getting superchats, her overreaction burnt me out a bit.

>>5128951
Nijisanji. I used to watch a lot of them, then people started hating on them and it seemed like they're not that good compared to Hololive anyway, then I just dropped them.

>>5164465
>even though she sucks at it
how the fuck do you expect her to get better if she doesnt play moron

>>5170380
To be fair, watching a white belt fuck up a simple punching drill 10 times in a row is soul crushing for some

>>5128951
First lost interest in Niji JP (started by watching the JK gumi group), felt like they lacked direction and each was doing w/e they felt like which lost me on the way
Then most of Holo JP, there's only so much you can do from jokes and personal stories alone
The vtubers I still watch end up all being talented creators, like Marine, Polka, Ina, Mori, or Nina.

I really liked Mori for about 3 months then I couldn't not hear her forcing 70% of what she says and got tired of yuri shit
Absolutely loved Ollie for a few days then realized she will never shut the fuck up
Watched Reine for a few months before I realized I just liked fantasizing about her armpits

>>5170749
Ollie is very fucking good when she talks with deeper, more calm and slow voice.
Unfortunately, it happens way too rare.

>>5128951
Ollie is a nice gal but listening to ear makes my ears fucking bleed
Kiara is unfunny
Callie makes nice songs but she acts too much like a boomer

>>5171067
I wish most of the hololive girls didn't have to change their voices. It's exhausting for them at a certain point and their natural voice is just better.

>>5171118
Mori's fake sleepy and very tired voice filtered me the most.

>>5171191
she sounds like a kingdom hearts/wolf's rain girl from 2006 trying to talk to children. Which I guess is very accurate.

Ina, she's talented of course but very boring.
Ame, I personally find her voice grating at times, and her personality can be annoying

Haachama fell off my watchlist after she started shoehorning in that stupid "lore" every other stream.

I don't get how anyone could enjoy Ina. Every time I've tried watching one of her streams I can barely even tell that she's talking

>>5153655
>Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
I'm asian but whites need to attack us more. Unfortunately, most of the attacks you hear nowadays come from niggers. Sad but it's true.

>>5134966
>most people here don't give a fuck about Coco?

>>5153655
>You're saying that, but thinking that "only white lives matter", so yeah, you deserve it.
Wow, way to out yourself as an actual schizo lol (which we all know you are)

>>5153655
>white attacking Asians
lmao

>>516786
Only watch her highlights, but they're pretty funny desu

>>5171626
Imagine being such a bottom, you actually WANT to be attacked.
That's beyond masochism at that point, that's just plain pathetic.

>>5171759
Chinks deserve it

>>5129508
Subaru, Polka, and Ollie

Subaru's my oshi now
I didn't have any interest in any of the Gen 5s at first but now I find Pol hilarious and I fucking love her songs
I wasn't too keen on Ollie cause she's just too much for me, but if she keeps going with those math streams and matures just a bit more...she may be a contender for my oshi

Kiara used to be my oshi but I couldnt take the flaws she refuses to fix anymore. Actually ended up canceling a 3 month membership.

Her SC streams are still the best content in EN though, I just dont watch her game streams anymore.

>>5153655
>Then maybe white people should stop attacking asians.
They don't that's niggers. And the fact we have you fucking faggots in this country making schizo rants like this makes me happy they're attacking you.

I completely gave up on Haato the moment the whole Haachama bullshit started. It's the definition of taking a joke and running it to the ground and then just keep beating the dead horse until it's but a smear on the ground and THEN just stomping on it nonstop.

>>5171793
Where I'm from, the majority of attacks are from white people on Asians since COVID. Some of which aren't even Chinese. Barely any attacks if any are from other races.

Iron Mouse, Silvervale, Melody, arguably Zentreya tho she's still based.
The original quartet of English Indie Vtubing. I really enjoyed their stuff but they got far too big and cater to viewers that demand low quality, toilet-level humor and idiocy. Their updated models also are really ugly, especially for Mouse and ohmygodthatmouth Silver.
It's pain to watch...

>>5171853
So where would that be?
And on another note, any news that back that up?

>>5135342
I get what you mean, I mostly just watch the clips anymore.
Marine is the only one I actually watch live because she plays games that the other vtubers don't touch.

>>5155821
Yeah, I felt the same. I watch her the least of Gen 5 now even though I watched her the second most after Lamy in the beginning.

>>5128951
I don't know if Ame counts. Like many I hated her debut, then I tried watching her a bit and started goslinging hard. Her arcade date was peak gosling and such a fun stream in general, then it all felt like downhill from there. I started watching her less and less and I didn't feel the same SOUL anymore. Then a peak again on her outfit reveal day, then decline again. Seriously it's kinda schizo, because my attitude towards other chuubas fluctuates only a bit or changes gradually, only Ame has these peaks of "I love her" and "wow I couldn't care less, why am I even still membered" for me. Doesn't help that my favorite Holo content is singing, and Ame did several karaoke streams in the beginning where she tried to be serious, those had some literal diamonds in the rough like Your Reality, Hallelujah and one of the renditions of Kiss Me. Ukulele streams were amazing too. Now it's all just meme songs and laughing and it was funny only a couple times at first, now I hate it but still listen to every karaoke like a retard hoping for some more kino.

>>5129508
Sora. I didn't dislike her, just kinda distanced myself from her content. Then she did a piano stream and now I watch all her streams. Honestly worth it.
I'll admit it, Kiara. I don't exactly like her now, her voice and mental issues still filter me. But I've come to respect the effort she puts into things. I hope things will work out for her in the future. I'm disappointed by her collab with Nyanners, but I don't consider it The Final Yab, I'm not a complete schizo
Pomu from NijiEN. I hated her debut then she kinda grew on me, honestly all of them are not bad but I watch her the most out of them.

>>5150342
>then taking away pre-stream chats
I fucking wish Mori would do that. Her pre-chat is nothing but circlejerk.

>>5128951
Basically all of HoloEN.
I don't really have anything against them, they just got boring for me after a while, even if they were the reason I discovered Vtubers.
>>5129508
HoloID. I remember when I saw Moona in the thumbnail of the clip where she fought Kiara and I remember asking myself who the fuck was that purple haired vtuber, because at the time I had no idea that there were 3 hololive branches.
Now Moona is my oshi and the only EN that I still watch regularly is Ina so I guess purple women strong?

>>5159809
>would do music production streams
She did at the begin but for some reason dropped them. I wish she would do those kind of streams more often.

>>5128951
Ame. I wouldn't even say she's bad or anything, and she's one of the most original chuubas when it comes to shit like her outfit reveal, Bubba radio, and pushing for the charity stream. But ironically I have no reason to watch her save for the occasional decent one-off since her typical stream is either full of her being dumb or table abuse.
Polka is similar, to a lesser extent though. She still has some gems but I miss her older streaming output instead of the largely Minecraft stuff she puts out now.
As much as it sucks to admit, VOMS in general since Monoe got released. It's not something I should hold Pikamee or TMSK accountable for, but the dead silence over Monoe and how she just happened to leave when I was really getting into watching her more just killed my interest in that company.

>>5129508
Nene full stop. Not that I disliked her or anything, she was one of my first memberships but desu I think I only did it due to her and Polka streaming a lot together at the time and I felt bad for her. Then I slowly started to like seeing her go full dork, her lunch/MC streams were at the perfect times for me, and the lead-up to her outfit change and her members content about it really made me feel for her. And it went rocketing from there as soon as her outfit reveal hit. Fucking love her to bits now.

>>5171875
>Zent
>based
pick one anon, Zent is fucking cringe, Twitter is the character death of everyone apparently.

>>5172387
>Twitter is the character death of everyone apparently
Twitter is cancer and should be shut down violently

>>5135755
>she relies too heavy on her moaning to have chat gasim.
???

>>5172433
no it should just be shut down randomly and never be mentioned again by companies or government and have any site like it be silently shut down before it can get off the ground. The world would be a better place.

>>5128951
Subaru
she only look good on clips and in reality watching septic tank getting emptied is more interesting than her fake drama

>>5168248
Because it made me cringe. her joke was terrible. she knew it, everyone knew it was terrible but she still laughed at it with the worst fake and forced laugh i have ever heard. At that point i just asked myself "why the fuck am i watching this". In conclusion she is boring and i dont like her sense of humor.