/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

MENACE WON
LUMI BTFO

>>51441296
Can you spot and help me with the reps here?

>>51441291
Can someone explain to me why would she be mad?

>>51441333
Lumi is a HACK

i dont even watch phase or lumi but can someone tell me who is behind these lumi threads?

Is it true that Lumi is angry about Menace's debut?

>>51441291
stfu no one cares about your whore

>>51441291
Did you get tired of bumping your dead Cyberlive general thread?

QRD bros?

>>51441469
Her fans. These are shill threads disguised as anti threads.

>>51441291
Can we just make a /lumi/ now? It would be nice to have a constant seethe thread up for laughs.

Let's see their numbers in the next months before judging. You know they'll look at those themselves.

meds, menace isn't in idol gen 2

Reminder that Lumi sent Tenma blacked memes yesterday

>>51441708
Kek.

So who’s gonna post the discord screenshots we’ve all seen hundreds of time by now?
I’m so excited to timeloop nothingburgers again!

>KANEko Lumi
in plain sight

>>51442307
Oh shit, it all comes together now

Those who defend Lumi, have you ever wondered why so many girls hate her?

>>51442540
Women hate successful women. Women hate women they see as their competition.
This has been known among men for tens of thousands of years.

>>51442540
dunno, everyone in phase connect and other good people seems to like her

>>51442540
The cope I've seen was that she is effortlessly attractive and speaks directly, which intimidates women who doublespeak and have to put in work to attract guys.

>>51442651
>speaks directly
There ain't a damn thing sexier than a woman willing to let you know what she wants or what's on her mind without having to put on a circus show for them.

>>51442540
Because they’re jealous? At least that’s what it always seemed like. I genuinely couldn’t care less about what mentally ill women think, Lumi included.
I’m more concerned about Lumi’s ability to make regular anons seethe like females, it’s baffling.

>>51442717
Agreed.

>>51442620
That doesn't explain why they don't like Lumi then

>>51442772
Glad you made it to (or made the) thread, Seething Femanon.

>>51441291
>watching
But she was streaming?

>>51442772
She became the most successful talent in Cyberlive. Hylo was for a time but Lumi was generally the most popular.
For now Lumi is still the most successful out of the former CL girls. Menace and Chapipi being in Idol will finally have a chance to be successful, I’ll be curious to see where their CCV settles after the debut buff wears off.

>>51442963
Higher than the new invaders based on a head to head comparison of debuts.

>>51443038
That's what Israeli government funding does. Lets see if they can keep the numbers.
I think Chips/Roca will, easily for karaoke, but we'll see for the rest.

>>51443038
I think it’s fair to say the debuts were quite artificially inflated simply by the amount of watchalongs Idol paid for, and that the majority of that twitch viewership won’t translate to CCV on YouTube.
I agree that their CCV will be likely higher than the new Invaders but not nearly as high as people seem to be predicting.

>>51441291
She was literally streaming pickme games during all of it

>>51442719
do you have any new material sister?

I think both Lumi and Menace are good people, at least now.
t. I watch both

>>51443858
No I don’t. It’s simply tradition to post the same screenshots in every Lumi seethe thread.

>>51443038
Not just comparing debuts... (Roca is at like 21k now)

>>51443038
This
Idol won
Phase Lost

>>51444121
>>Not just comparing debuts...
>1 day after debut and none of them have streamed again yet.
Sorry Avreil you need more data for that kind of propaganda.

>>51444226
I watched Ember play Binding of Isaac. What do you mean none of them have streamed again yet? The point of the post is that it took less than 12 hours from Roca's debut to surpass all the recent Phase Invaders in subscriber count.

>>51444343
And Rin has 150k more subscribers than Pippa but can barely break 1k most of the time. Idol has a terrible problem with artificially inflated numbers that don’t translate to ccv.

>>51444423
Going to be fun when the Idol investors realize astroturfed deadsubs don't pay dividends.

Lumi sucks

>>51445245
Yeah, my penis

I lust for the yellow woman so much, it's unreal

>>51446225
She has too much power

The lemon has been squeezed.

>>51443412
>dark souls 1
>pickme game
all vtubers are now pickmes

>>51442772
No one knows exactly. There's was more screenshots than the one that everyone always share but I don't know where to find them or if they still exists.

One of the things that I know that they hated about lumi was her paypigs, saying that Jack and Char as they're from multi millionaire families and last year char alone gave more than 20k to lumi.

While it's known that a clique between miia, Jack, char, lumi, Yuri and other main paypigs exists, unlike Vera Vee who aparently had sex with her paypigs. Lumi never met them or gave them photos, while Miia had at least shared picture with both.

I do believe that there's more to lumi/cyberlive story that we don't know and probably never will but at the same time. A lot of vtubers like Nako, Nyaru, Bodega, Miia and others talks very fondly and good about lumi. While I think that there's more about it, and that lumi sounds like a Stacy a lot of times, I don't think that the fault falls alone on her.

Also, if you know woman, they are famous to hate people for petty things. Kirsche and nyaru talked about it in the past, where a person said a nothing burger thing to them and they still hate the person even if they know it's a petty thing.

Also, you guys have to stop overthinking and being a schizo everything

>>51446438
Yes.

>>51446562

>>51446562
meds

>>51441333
>>51441403
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0513/85/1686790814182918.jpg

>>51452777
my guy this was posted ITT already…

>>51453033
and?

>>51453262
>Yupiel
thanks anon now I have to jerk off

>>51447170
She's funny

>>51444423
But Rin pulls in buck with her streams. They're normie streams but she is damn good at what she does. Her super chat numbers are insane for someone new

>>51446562
There was also the issue in Cyberdive where they gave Lumi more responsibility for her to do nothing with it. So they kinda blame her for not trying to help

>>51455007
Lumi took the manager position to try and help stop the company from collapsing. She was doing double duty as a streamer and a manger trying to salvage that shithole.
Once she heard that the other girls were shit talking her behind her back and we’re planning on quitting themselves that is when Lumi decided to jump ship to Phase.

>>51454925
We were talking about Idol’s artificially inflated sub numbers that don’t translate to CCV, not superchat earnings…But since you mentioned it, Pippa mogs Rin in monthly superchat earnings as well.

>>51455271
There's a lot going on between. I've heard that she was basically aggravating the situation worse by basically not listening to the streamers leading them to feel unhappy. Maybe she was the wrong person to give manager to as there was already conflict there. There's too much going on hurt feelings.

>>51455370
Why do Pipa fags need to make Rin and Pipa compete ? They're wholly different streamers

>>51455442
read the thread it’s tribalfags all the way up

>>51442719
>all of them gossiping with Vera as if she isn’t a two timing harlot
women are so stupid. they can’t even make trustworthy friends or acquaintances properly
every girl in this screenshot would likely backstab each other given the chance. what a fucking den of snakes

>>51455521
Yeah it's tribal fags but damn I never understood why Phase just kinda shits on everyone. Like Holofags and insufferable cos their Cokcy, Nijifags are pissed at Holos for not being number 1, Vshoujo only care about Iron mouse, but Phase just happens to shit on anyone they dislike

>>51455632
I thinks it real disingenuous to say Phase is the only one who shits on everybody. Literally everybody shits on everybody here.

>>51455271
To my understanding, she also wasn't getting paid for the extra work piled on her as a pseudo-manager. Can't remember if that came from here, Yuri's stream where she went more into detail about what happened with CyberLive, or somewhere else though.

>>51446562
The TLDR is that all of them are not to be trusted.

>>51442719
Yikes, what a snake pit cyberlive was

>>51455790
Maybe I'm overacting and I'm bveing a disingenuous but It's been like that since Idol Corp had their gen 2 debut. I wonder cos if it's the Menace vs Lumi drama

>>51456020
Yes I remember hearing that she was doing all the extra managerial work completely unpaid.
>>51455409
Watch this. It’s Lumi talking about the situation after leaving Cyberlive. Obviously it’s her side of things, but seeing as the other girls didn’t come forward after the fact calling Lumi a liar or refuting her claims I reckon it’s the most accurate retelling of the situation we have at this point.
https://files.catbox.moe/n6uvqw.mp4

>>51456245
You’re acting as if Idol fans weren’t shitting up a lot of threads yesterday, /pcg/ included of course.

>>51456326
TBF, to the board, everyone here shits on everyone else's favorite small corpo on the regular. It is just that it goes turbo once there's debuts. Not that we should let this go unnoticed. Remember, the best way to deal with retards is to ignore them, no attention?, no satisfaction.

>>51455632
I mean it seemed like an appropriate response to the original post in my opinion. If someone starts being a numberfag, then it's not exactly inappropriate to return the favor. It's not like it was unprompted or anything.

>>51456244
Lumi tears…delicious

>>51441291
she helped host one of the debuts wdym

>>51441291
ew

>>51441403
Lumi has quite literally never cared about the other girls.

>>51452777
this is just the average /vt/ thread also Menace is a brat I want to PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>51441291
Imagine your dick between those tits

>>51442540
Why would a bitch clique hate Lumi? Because it's literal mean girl shit.

>>51455536
Vera was the one who doxxed them as well. A lot of the blame got put on Lumi but when the paypig/cheating twitlonger came out everyone cut ties with Vera. Threads still go up about Lumi though just because it's funny.

>>51462489
Lumi’s still active as a relatively successful vtuber. Of course she’s gonna get hate threads and not Vera, who for all intents and purposes crawled into a hole to disappear.

CL , Lumi , MENACE, Phase
QRD

>>51462763
Read the thread
Do your archive reps
It’s all just old drama being rehashed for the millionth time

>>51444423
>>51455370
>but muh CCV
>but muh superchats
Fucking retards on this board always say that these numbers are the only ones that matter, when literally everyone else always look at the number of subs to see how someone is popular, even execs and advertisers. No mater how you want to screech they are "dead subs" or "botted subs", it doesn't matter, they ARE the most important numbers.

LUMI MENHERA ARC LET'S GOOO

>>51466067
Would you rather have 500k subs and an average of 500 CCV or 200k subs but an average CCV of 2.5k?

>>51466630
500k subs of course.
Streams literally don't matter. Just look at Gura and her 4 million subs and 0 streams with 0 ccv.
Guess who matters more than the others in Holo? Gura does. Pekora doesn't mean shit.

>>51441291
buy an ad Lumi

>>51447170
This alone was what made me like Lumi. She just does her own thing

>>51441296
cool

>>51442638
no one in phase connect is good people. there I solved the mystery for you.

>>51460716
God I lover her old model so much bros it's unreal.

>>51442540
Jealousy. It's typical woman behaviour to circle around behind the back of the popular girl and talk shit. Someone needs to smack women about for this. It's ugly behaviour and needs to be beaten out of them.

>>51441762

>>51467015
This has gotta be one of the stupidest takes I've read today. Who gets more sponsorships, merch runs, superchats, and collabs? Who is a household name?
It's Pekora over Gura any day. Subscriber count doesn't even bring in the money, it's memberships. There are plenty of Holos at 1 mil subscribers that have fallen off (though are still doing great compared to the rest of the Vtuber scene)

>>51467015
retard

>>51467015
Pekora has been mentioned on national tv by Watanabe more times than Gura

>>51480642
Gura and Pekora more or less have inverted subs/viewer nubmers.
Gura has twice Pekora's subs but half her CCV but Pekora has half Gura's subs and double her CCV.
However here's the catch, there's nothing Pekora can do to close a 2 million gap overnight. Nothing. Gura owns that title for the foreseeable future.
However Gura could close the CCV gap with Pekora if she watned. All she really needs to do is fucking stream consistently and put good hours into it and stream fun games and have good interaction with her community and do fun content. With her subs it would not be that hard to reclaim her lost CCV and stand toe to toe with Gura. It won't happen overnight either but it would be much easier for Gura to match Pekora's CCV than it would be for Pekora to match Gura's subs.

>>51479502
It looked way better than the current Veibae-like

>>51479548
Qrd?

>>51441611
>>51441403
She hates Menace for being naturally cute and not being an evil, devious person who has to manipulate and step on everyone around them to try and get ahead.

Her entire personality is lying about herself to look "cool" and trying to impress people with how cool, apathetic and "smart" she is. She's not like OTHER girls, she likes strategy games and political bullshit! And her staff say SLURS in private!

She is a painfully average, but "relatable" 4chan user.

>>51442540
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, they're an asshole, but if you run into assholes all day, every day, maybe you are the asshole after all."

But no, she's a perfect angel who dindu nuffin' and simply makes everyone envious and jealous of her bragging and basedness by simply existing and staying in her own space and not stepping on any toes... or something.

>>51481697
>All Gura needs to do is actually stream and make good content
You just proved his point. Pekora is superior in every aspect and chumbuds are a dying breed, which is a good thing.

>>51485513
No his point was that CCV is more advantageous, it isn't. It reflects the streamer.