/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

GET FUCKED YELLOW BITCH!!! Imagine if Yuri hadn't been a retard and followed her to Phase??

This is a fap gauntlet and god damn. I just lost.

can someone give me a qrd? I want to hate on her

>>51387322
Lumi will continue to mog them in viewers and donos. Nobody cares about the rest of the CyberLive whores. Hope the jews know they have tainted their corpo and will be dead within a year.

>>51387441
NotYuri is doing just as good as she was before she left Phase, and slowly climbing her way back up while pumping out art commissions and streaming longer hours than Yuri was capable of. Yuri hasn't lost yet.

>>51388119
Everyone blames Lumi for the fallout of Cyberlive because when everyone gave up on the company, they gave Lumi a managerial position which obviously made some of the girls there seethe because they talked a lot of shit behind her back and there are discord screenshots to prove it. Lumi walked out in the end but this aura of "yellow woman bad" kept following her which made people add more and more fantasy scenarios that made her look like a supervillain that single handedly destroys chuubas or entire corpos even. The only thing I say it's true is that she had a guy in her discord back then, that would doxx a lot of girls for fun basically. Whether she knew about it or not, I can't really tell, but allegedly she was scared that he has info on her too so she played nice to avoid pissing him off. They had a little master/slave larp going on in the discord.
inb4 phase army mass reports this post

>>51389312
Nah she legitimately loves him and knew his past. That's why she keeps a doxxer around her at all times. Her current one is Xalamon.

>>51388421
Can you recommend me a chuuba thats just like yuri? I thought there was one with a name that ended in "byte" but I cant remember

>>51389828
Nanobites_

>>51389454
a chuuba should always have a pocket doxxer as a scare tactic against other chuubas who might want to start shit

Remember how Lumi trolled the cyberlive girls by using their models without permission thinking she was going too big to let it hurt her?

Yeah, that shit doesn't look so nice now, does it?

>>51389312
>They had a little master/slave larp going on in the discord
...some people man wtf

>>51390438
Menace never said anything... because she had already been picked up by idolEN. Pretty crazy when you think about it.

Cyberlive drama really is the gift that keeps on giving
Shame about the groomers tho

>>51390438
And they say that karma doesnt exist lmao

>>51390065
yes thankyou, on twitch

>>51390438
Lumi got fucking mogged lmao

>>51390619
>>51390772
>>51390815
Hello Menacecord!

>>51391074
kill yourself lumi

>>51389312
back when Cyberlive talents FIRST found out they were lied to about Yunity and Misaki, they made a discord discussing whether or not they should stay in the company. Lumi instantly ratted them all out to Misaki. From there everyone started liking her less and less because lumi only got worse and less dependable.

>>51387322
Get fucked loser.

>>51390438

>>51391243
>It's okay to shit on Lumi and make her feel like an outcast and a pariah but if she pushes back literally even a little she's the devil who deserves everything bad that happens to her
You are mentally ill and you support a mentally ill woman who loves to shit on people at their lowest point
Kys and everyone in your discord should do the same

>>51391448
>a mentally ill woman who loves to shit on people at their lowest point
how did you manage to describe Lumi so well in a sentence

>>51391448
>>It's okay to shit on Lumi and make her feel like an outcast and a pariah but if she pushes back literally even a little she's the devil who deserves everything bad that happens to her
nigger you've just described the entire Hylo drama

Is it only Menace or are there other cl girls in idol en?

>>51391770
Chapipi is in as well
Pandora, Hylo, Yuri and Yoki may end up somewhere pretty soon too

Aviel I kneel

>>51390619
Chapipi never said anything because she never got involved in the drama at all and just wanted to sing her heart out for her Lovebytes.

>>51391872
Has Inori checked out of vtubing?

???

>>51387322
I'm convinced this is just a Lumishill thread and made to be some intentional future shitpost fuel when Menace inevitably falls back to low 3view after the debut hype?
It's not even a bold statement if you're on either side, it's only the inevitable for corpos this size. So it begs the question, why? Are you that short sighted and retarded or you just a phaseshill farming fodder?

>>51392112
You have to keep in mind that Chaps was also picked up. They probably got told by their managers to sit down and ignore it because their time was coming soon and Hylo had already raised the issue with Phase.

With that said, you're right, Chaps never got involved with their mess.

>>51388119
>>51389312

>>51392202
She's on a "hiatus" but doesn't seem to understand the meaning of that word. Keeps tweeting and sometimes even streams.

>>51390704
>Cyberlive drama really is the gift that keeps on giving
>Shame about the groomers tho

You think this is something, just wait until Aviel finishes his pump&dump and the bag holders try to recoup their losses with these timebombs on their hands.

>>51392293
I mean... Lumi's also a 3view...
YouTube nerfs the viewer numbers, so who knows if there will ever be a proper comparison.

I just want to fuck her tits

>>51392112
>her Lovebytes.
you mean her 5 groomers which are now her mods at Idol

>>51392561
A year later, Yoki drops into Lumi's stream when she used her model and laughs about it. Then later when the other girl got outraged, she joins in pretending she was hurt that Lumi used her model in that way. lmao
Women are just...

>>51392886
snobaste isn't a mod

>>51392561
i'm curious how often this will get re-posted in the next week

Lumi is a shitty enough person that even her groomcord gave her the middle finger.

>>51392605
>lumi's also a 3view
True. But she's still a high 3view undeniably, sometimes 4 on the weekends.
I'm talking the usual cooldown where most new debut girls flounder in 100-300ccv after a few weeks, numberfuckery doesn't make up the difference. Idol isn't big enough yet to change that, hence this thread must be a phaseshill screenshot farming or some shit

>>51393028
take a shot every time someone replies with her mods DMs

>no one explains
But from what I gather, all the pissed off Cyberlive girls joined IdolEN? Is it all out war, but between IdolEN and Phase connect? And where does Nene and Production kawaii fit into this?

>>51390438
My favourite part of that whole debacle was Lumifags going insisting it was a nothing burger while going absolutely apeshit over it themselves

I'm thinking small corpo dramakino is back on the menu

>>51392561
Was Vera the one that fucked the first paypig that she got and then got caught while on vacation with her 2nd paypig?

>>51393789
Vera was cheating on her husband by sleeping with at least 6 other people telling them they were the only ones who were in a relationship with her and how they should keep it secret while hanging out with all of them in voice chat everyday.

>>51393586
There are some left
and as it turns out, even the one who joined Phase with Lumi doesn't like her anymore

>>51393586
>Production kawaii fit into this
Sava (now Mozumi Pichi) is friends with 3 of them (including two of the new girls)

>>51393586
Who joined idolEN?

>>51393586
Two. The rest believe they'll get nepohired into Idol or their bush league (PixelLink)

>>51393979
> sleeping with at least 6 other people
all me btw

>>51394319
PrussianBVLL...

>>51389312
Literally making shit up to try to make Lumi look bad now.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.”

>>51392561
Didn't Yuri imply that this shit happened because Misaki was deliberately stirring up drama between the talents behind the scenes?

>>51390075
True, doxx deterrence is pretty funny

>>51394137
She was Menace's and Chapipi's rigger before that.

>>51393979
woman moment

>>51394619
Misaki was long gone when this shit happened, you cant even blame her.

>>51395102
Just asking a question, since I remember Yuri doing a stream right after Cyberlive officially closed, where she talked about a bunch of stuff without directly naming names. Saying that for a long time someone had been stirring shit behind the scenes, while also saying it wasn't one of the talents. Also, Misaki wasn't officially gone at that point, since that stuff was going on before Lumi and Yuri left, and before the statement about Misaki being fired.
Verification not required.

>>51396438
Likely culprits are either Vera or CEO. Both revealed themselves to be snakes right before CL died.

>>51387441
Wasn't it Yuri who wanted to join Phase and roped in Lumi to join her?

>>51397060
So did Lumi
Interesting

Can someone explain to me why Lumi is the bad guy in this situation? Full disclosure, I've got no horse in this race, but the way the situation has always been described to me is
>CL is going to shit
>in a bid to salvage itself, they make Lumi a manager
>CL collapses as it was bound to do anyways
>Lumi gets picked up by phase and sees some success
>some of the other girls seethe over her success
The only thing I really see as a clear cut Lumi problem is recently when she stirred the nest with that little stunt involving the ex-CL talents' models, which was pretty fucking retarded

>>51400393
Basically, Lumi wasn't actually forthright with all the details, and some of her internal mod leaks showed she was up to shady shit with regards to various Indies and talents.

>>51400643
I see. Like what?

Lumi and Menace are both villains

>>51400712
Like how her mods were doxing various Vtubers, and the fact that she was playing all kinds of political games with cyberlive talents. Other things involve her manipulations of several indies that got leaked as /pyon/ was being fucked with for being insufferable fags, among other rumors that have yet to be confirmed, but would fit the patterns we've seen thus far.

>>51401015
And that was proven in screenshots? Do you have a link?

>>51401346
Yes, let me dig around in my dreams for a little bit. I’ll get back to you shortly

>>51400393
Somehow the center of all the drama that keeps happening and yet never to blame for any of it. That's why.
First time it happened people were sympathetic but then the second and the third and the fourth. Let's just say it's getting really suspicious here.

Lumi has the amazing ability to turn run of the mill posters into seething females. It’s quite a sight.

>>51401856
Is Lumi the solution to the troon problem?

>>51401771
This just means she's a successful alpha female ("Queen Bee")

>>51401346
If you remember the Sei leaks, you already have the jist. Archive reps on his leaks of /pyon/ and the various singing threads for the phasecord from back in the day, should yield the other things. I wanna say /yah/ had some of these, but I could be mistaken on that one.
>>51401856
No one buys your shit anymore, lemon whore.

>>51401771
And if Phase Connect ever self destructs, they'll find a way to blame Menace again.

>>51391872
I dunno about Pandora because she seems to get rejected everywhere. Unironically the only one that is probably likely is EN3.
As for the rest of them have there been any voice reveals from PixelLink yet? Maybe one of them have ended up in that lineup.

>>51402230
To preface I don’t watch Lumi anymore nor do I really like her.
I’ve seen the Sei leaks, he is undoubtedly a schizo doxxfag, but there seems to be a leap in logic that needs to be taken to blame Lumi for any of his actions.
There is zero proof she knew what he was doing before everyone else found out, and people implying she ordered him to do what he did seem to simply be trying to paint Lumi has some cunning evil mastermind trying to collect dirt on everybody.
Lumi is a fake, grifting bitch, but to accuse her of being aware of Sei’s actions and for some to even accuse her of condoning them is just crazy in my opinion.

>>51403230
As someone who talked to sei, she did not know about what he did on his private time but it's clear that it started a schism between her and the other talents when she tried to keep him as mod while the other talents were hurt and shocked by him being around. Publicly she removed him as a moderator but he was still apart of her discord under another name and given moderating priviledges. It might as well be condoning his actions seeing as how she defied everyone who wanted him done for good reason.

>>51387322
I trust her

>>51403230
I'd be inclined to agree, were it not for the fact that this isn't the only time something like that happened to her.

>>51405091
nta but I’m all ears if you have screenshots and proof proving Lumi knew and condoned his actions. I won’t hold my breath though

>>51387322
I wasn't around at that time and I refuse to make an opinion on this as of now based on a catalog thread, instead I'll just be happy that both Chapipi and Menace are back and ignore all drama/threadshitters moving forward

>>51405797
>are back
They were always active as indies.

Bros I love Lumi so much she is basically perfect

>>51405891
Chapipi graduated last month and I had no idea she was joining a corpo this soon, Menace basically had a soft-graduation going on with how little she streamed

>>51387441
I don't know how she got duped by Lumi so hard when she hated her(rightfully) at first.

>>51406204
There was a rumor I kept seeing that Chapipi was fleshstreaming on twitch and wasn’t inactive. Of course no proof was ever posted from what I saw, and I’m not that invested to go digging or do my reps so I have no idea of the validity of the claim.

>>51392561
It's like I'm back in high school.

>>51406741
As it should be, as they are in high school.

>>51406741
Are you a woman?

this thread has a higher concentration of women than even the niji male thread
anons looking for a gf this is your chance to show that rizz, just put your discord in the name field

>>51392561
>Standard Woman Behavior
How does this hurt Lumi in any way? What reprocussions will she see beyond a handful of nolives on /vt/ continuing to not giving her suppas?

>>51388119
Stupid, evil and petty bitch.

>Got ostracized for having a pet doxxer schizo right-hand staff member in Cyberlive
>Leaked N*ena Makurano's new account which violated her current Kawaii contract in Nina Saotome's twitch chat for no reason, claiming "oops wrong chat :)"
>Puppeted her ex-genmates from Cyberlive's models for no good reason during this years' April Fools, and attracted fire to herself and her current company(Phase) for no good reason just because she likes being a bitch and having drama.
>Got Yuri to quit Cyberlive but pumped and dumped her, leaving her to self destruct by herself

The only reason she should be brought up on this board is to be anti'd.

Kys lumi

>>51387322
I don't really know the details bunch of schizo fucks but that smug is pure sexo

>>51407294
Lemon woman is funny and still has an audience tho. So she wins.

Being an ironic anti brings me immeasurable joy.

>>51407294
>>Leaked N*ena Makurano's new account which violated her current Kawaii contract in Nina Saotome's twitch chat for no reason, claiming "oops wrong chat :)"
Beyond based btw. Neena tried to keep doing her thing in kawaii while starting a new vtuber persona and working on both accounts while also funneling all of her paypigs from kawaii to her new persona.

>>51405978
Lumi really has perfected content generation. Even when the stream ends her very existence gives us endless seething femanons & vtweeters to lol at.

I hope we still see this outfit one day. It’s real nice

>>51407294
>Got Yuri to quit Cyberlive but pumped and dumped her, leaving her to self destruct by herself

>>51407727
Lumi GFE...

>>51391260
That does seem like something Lumi would do.

>>51407837
Seen this image a million times now, do you have something new? Something spicy?

>>51394619
Yes, Misaki did do that when she wasn't ghosting everyone. I think Hylo and Menace corroborated it as well.

>>51407775
Lumi is not GFE

>>51405511
NTA, but that's a stupid ask considering only complete scum leaks private messages. Besides, I listen to the actions someone takes rather than what they say, and her stunt with the models confirmed my suspicions that this isn't as black and white as the handful of screenshots that got leaked, imply.

>>51392940
She was laughing in disgust or shock. Or even just nervous laughter. People don't only laugh because they think something is funny ha ha amusing.

>>51407837
Right half of that is all jokes and shitposting. You could make a compilation like that with literally any talent ever.

>>51408063
>It’s stupid to ask for proof
Truly profound. From this point on I’ll believe everything that I hear or read at face value.

>>51408190
Yes, you look at their actions, not their words.

>>51408147
She literally tweeted about it positively before deleting it when the rest started raging.

>>51407937
>Something spicy?
nothing really, most of the stuff in the groomercord is just 4chan humor and constant bean schlicking. I left that place after I fapped to Yuri's IRL height.

>>51407837
>black people annoy me
Oh the horror.

>>51408240
Well, I see a lot of people claiming she did things with neither written proof or examples of actions she took that back up said claims. So who do I have to talk to get some reasonable, prove-able answers around here?

The Cyberlive drama never ends.

>>51408678
It truly is the gift that keeps on giving…Which is strange because it’s always just a rehashing of the same few things that have been discussed to death for months and years at his point, with nothing new coming to light. CL is truly the timeloop corpo.

>>51408586
There's two facts
>she kept a mod around who doxxed them
>she used their models without permission while on bad terms
Everything else lines up.

Meanwhile, sure, the girls got pissy but did they harm Lumi? No, they just talked shit and let her be successful in Phase.

All these he said, she said bullshit is meangless without context, and in this context, Lumi is willing to tolerate or accept far more toxic behavior than anyone else in the story.

>>51409040
nta but nobody takes you serious when you use reddit spacing you absolute faggot

>>51393979
CHAD PrussianBVLL

>>51409142
What does that even mean?

It's all so tiring. Lumi was my first step into v-tubing, but I've been falling out of love and the return of the drama (once again) is the last straw. I don't even care about who is in the right and who is in the wrong, I just hate the fact that v-tubers I like are even associated with shitty drama and it makes me immediately like them less.

>>51409040
First off, when one of the major points to discredit someone is a harmless April Fools Joke, your argument carries less weight.
If the only thing Lumi is guilty of is keeping a schizo mod around for a little longer than she should have I don’t understand why so many people cite her as the reason Cyberlive crumbled.
Was she responsible for Misaki and the retard CEO’s numerous shitty decisions and actions? No. Was she responsible for Vera stealing money, doxxing talents and flying around the country fucking 6 different paypigs? No. Was she responsible for her coworkers feeling jealous of her success and seething about it in a private discord? Maybe.
I guess I just don’t understand why Lumi is seen as the big bad of Cyberlive when the corpo was provably dealt more damage by others.

>>51409623
i don't even care about the drama or anything, i just stopped watching her cause of the model downgrade

>>51410298
Old model was great. New model is growing on me if only for the fact that it’s rigged much better. I’m hoping her new outfit will make me like it more.

>>51409803
Keep in mind that there are the vtubers who were just seething at Lumi for being successful, whether through guile or tricks. I would not be surprised that these talents had access to private mods stuff and that some of them were responsible for leaking sensitive stuff outsiders should not know.
But all this stuff is just really petty and irrelevant to stream watchers. At least for me Lumi could sing better and play more interesting games, so that's who I watched. I don't like her new model, but none of the drama surrounding her is relevant to her content.

If you're a male and you spending anytime in these kinds of threads doing anything other than shitposting you aught to re-eveluate your life.

So where is all this evidence of Lumi's alleged misdeeds?

>>51392293
Oh no theyll fall down to a 800-999 range, the horror

>>51410924
You're now aware you are posting in a reverse-op Lumi shill thread.

>>51410924
It exists inside of us all

>>51410611
I love the drama, half the reasom Im into vtubing, an industry composed 99% of mid 20s women is bound to have shitloads of petty gossip and drama

>>51389312
>Whether she knew about it or not, I can't really tell, but allegedly she was scared that he has info on her too so she played nice to avoid pissing him off.
>>51389454
>That's why she keeps a doxxer around her at all times
This is pretty much the Meta though. All the experienced PC girls have someone like
this and will go through ridiculous gayops to conceal it.

>>51393586
Who will savoirfag the ex-kawaii members? Phase? Idol?

>>51411371
Me

>>51411340
Pocket doxxers are the nukes of vtubing. They keep the peace through M.A.D.

>>51389312
that doxxer is also the owner of the /asp/ discord btw kek

>>51411785
You talking about the lancecord? Are you sure that’s Sei?

I see the Lumi vs Menace war just time looped

friendly reminder that all lumi "anti" threads are gumis falseflagging and samefagging because otherwise nobody cares about her after she sold out to genshin

for context:
https://files.catbox.moe/s27gx1.webm

>>51411951
If only that were true…

>>51387322
also does lumi not have any other art than this?

>>51410924
I wait patiently for this answer every time one of these threads is aborted into existence. Unfortunately, said answer seems to have an even worse delivery time than Phase Connect merchandise.

>>51412090
No, that’s the only piece of art that exists of her

>>51412090
no one draws her unless it's a skeb

>>51412305
i find that hard to believe

>>51410924
>>51412140
Do your archive reps, catalog pippaniggers.

guys I’m starting to think the proof of Lumi’s heinous crimes doesn’t exist

>>51409803
The joke wasn't about you, so neither you nor I get to decide how much harm a joke does. The individuals being made fun were absolutely not ok with it, and prompted Phase management to take action, hence this waving away of responsibility makes YOU even more biased.

Second, never did I imply Lumi was responsible for CyberLive's collapse. Simply, her choosing to keep intact harmful (doxfag) relationships undermines any goodwill she might have had with her previous genmates, discarding any notion that her success was the only thing the girls talked about. There are significant portions of the conversation that are not included in the screenshots, almost as if whoever leaked them had an ulterior motive.

Lumi isn't the big bad, but her actions prove her actions were not done in good faith. I personally posit that all of them were responsible for its downfall, but its talents less than management.

shut up xalabussy

>>51387441
Lumi is very manipulative

>>51413214
yeah she manipulates my cock pretty good

>>51393106
I don’t give a fuck about Lumis muted tab lurkers

>>51412090

>>51403230
Lumi reads every thread and ego searches constantly. When Kiki drama happened over her being transphobic Lumi unfollowed her on Twitter in minutes .

I heard lumi fucks dogs

>>51413848
Literally every chuuba is here, it’s not some grand revelation. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

>>51414011
as all “white” girls do, it’s tradition

>>51414051
She would have known about seis actions because Lumi kept getting brought up along with it.

>>51414203
So she learned at the same exact time as everybody else? Crazy.
I’m not gonna defend her for keeping the guy around after the fact, that’s just dumb. But to claim Lumi knew prior and to imply that she condoned his doxxing of people his lunacy.
I genuinely don’t know why I even bother typing this shit out, we’re both just timelooping for the hundredth time…

>>51414531
Why is this a timeloop now though? Idol as usual?

goodnight friends, don’t go too crazy while I’m asleep

>>51407727
Can't stand the veibei face.

/clg/ bros
>>>51415996

>>51403230
almost like she was dating him?

>>51407727
Its literally veibae

So Yuri is now friends with Menace after she initially took Lumi's side?? She is now shilling her new persona on twitter like they are the best of friends. What the fuck happened?

>>51417617
She got used by Lumi and now is going her way

>>51417617
She realized that jumping to Lumi's side was the shitty choice after initially batting against her.

>>51417617
How much more shit has to happen around Lumi to make you realize that maybe she is a problem?

>>51417617
>Yuri now orbits the literal whos as a vtweeter and not the other way around.
Sad state of affairs really. She was much better off in Phase.

>>51417617
If you followed Yuri on Twitter before her termination, she and Menace replied to each other in friendly chatter multiple times this year.

>>51411371
Mozu hangs more on the periphery of Idol and every gen needs at least one girl carrying schizo anti baggage, so she'd be a pretty good fit.

>>51389454
Xalabussy?!

>>51418490
>Has same viewer average as before
>Lost none of her regulars and paypigs
>Doesn't have to give any percent of her earnings to anyone, so she's making more money
>Has a new model that doesn't need to be upgraded
>Has plenty of friends to collab and talk with still
>Got her sponsorships from before back
>Gets a lot of art commissions
Yeah, better off in Phase for sure.

>>51387322
I have no fucking idea what this thread is about. I've been out of /vt/ for 8 months after the homofags burnout right after they betrayed my support by trying to cocksuck normie streamers (39daph,Scarra). Whatever the fk happened to Homofags now?


Also all I know is that Lumi had beef with one of her former co workers with her previous company. Please give me the Fill in, I'm on day off.

Thank you in advance friends.

>>51418749
see >>51412051

>>51387322
Keep this shit in your 2view generals, I hate these small corpos thinking they have any right to share a space even near Hololive. Can't wait until all of them go bankrupt

>>51418821
>Can't wait until all of them go bankrupt
You gonna wait a very long time while they get only bigger with more influence on the scene
2 years from now and Cover will actually have to publically acknowledge Phase and Idol

>>51418925
>Acknowledge En companies
Yeah, yeah, sure thing pipsqueak. Until these EN companies are able to debut a Jp gen and compete against the top dogs there, they'll just be a bunch of literal who's. Vtuber boom in the West already passed and was nothing compared to their rise in Japan where they hit the mainstream.

>>51419059
the fact that you broke your holobrony containment and you're posting on a reverse psy-op phase connect shill thread completely destroys any point that you were trying to make

>>51419059
>Vtuber boom in the West already passed
>multiple agencies are expanding and getting only bigger
what the holodrone corpo loyalist meant by the boom is gone, also
>MUH JP
you will never be japanese anyways

https://twitter.com/nanobites_/status/1669241911347912706?s=20
hi yuri

>>51418925
>Cover acknowledging small corpos
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Here's a (You) for making me laugh

>>51419172
Neither Idol or Phase will be small in 2 years

>>51411840
Different aspcord, it was shilled like crazy in the wvt/asp threads this time last year. He used his 'connections' (aka. hey I'm a mod for lumi) to get vtubers to join in hopes that he could gather dirt on them or get closer to them. Sei/Visage/Phasmagoria was his name, no clue if the discord is still up or not though

>>51418770
Lmao I guess, how about the homofags?

I know you are /here/ Yuri. Did you ever have beef with any of the ex Cyberlive people when you left? Or was that just a ratt?

>>51388119

>>51387322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVaprwQnSH8

>>51392561
Can't stand bitches like this. Lumi did nothing wrong.

>Lumi bad
>no, Menace bad
why is this still a timeloop, they're both evil whores. there's no "good" side here

>>51419440
no

I want to impregnate Lumi and have her bear my children consentually.

>>51419520
They only started thinking she's shit when they discovered Sei. And Misaki tried to brainwash everyone, as well

>>51419433
https://twitter.com/nanobites_/status/1669245958809350146

>>51407837
Incredibly based

>>51419546
/wvt/ haunting the narrative

>>51419546
Menace didn't do anything wrong, she shouldn't be compared to Lumi who's whole existence is pretty much wrong. She lives for drama and bullshit. She had no reason to skinwalk or randomly toss N*ena's new channel into an unrelated chat. No reason to try to keep sucking doxxer schizo cock either.

>>51419123
>Holobrony Containment
This whole board was made for holobrony containment. You'd know that if you weren't such a newfag

>>51419132
>Companies growing bigger
Ah, yeah, so amazing anon. The hot new En 2view companies becoming 3views. How impressive. Meanwhile, in Japan, you have rising new companies like Vspo who are 4 views and hit 5 views all the time. The Western market is a joke anon, and has been reclining ever since COVID ended and Gura decided to become Ayame 2.0.

>>51390438
did something happen recently? I thought she got away with it

guys Lumi is asian

>>51420223
her and 95% of vtubers

Someone just go tell Lumi and Yuri to kiss and make up. I liked their dynamics.

>>51420441
Not gonna happen. Lumi literally pumped and dumped her. She only ever used Yuri to seem more human and relatable outwardly to others. She dropped their NTR weekly shit and anything else with her as soon as she couldn't wring any more value out of her.

Yuri did the right thing finally seeing the situation for what it was, and I wish her well.

I hope the day Lumi implodes comes soon.

>>51419546
Menace just reincarnated in Idol so that alone is shitpost fuel because /pcg/ shitposters wants console war with /jidfg/

>>51420139
You can go back to /jp/ anytime dogfucker

>>51419440
doing reps for small corpo drama is beyond retarded, far too complicated for too little gain

>>51420707
>Dogfucker
Something smellys chinky in here based off your chosen insult, but I do love Korone, so call me that all you want.

>>51421199
based

>>51419353
Yes it is still up but Visage stopped talking in it. Think he became suicidal after elliot ambers stole xia from him.

>>51408048
Lumi is prime GFE
Grifting Femoid Experience

>>51390704
QRD ?

>>51421584
True

>>51417617
Yuri by all means is a person who tries to forgive and forget after a period of time has passed. If you recall, she rebelled against Lumi, Misaki, Menace and then turned around and became friendly/regretful towards her actions against them and tries to mend the divide that happened due to her nature.

>>51422343
Aaaaiiiiiieeeeeeee

>>51422343
What's so fun about fnaf other than the copypasta lore?

>>51407727
I want to cum inside lumi so badly bros

About menace, didn't she do a total 180 on gfe, going from we are not friends on her pl pl to I literally love you so much and want to hear everything about you on her pl

lumi good
lumi's enemies bad
simple as

>>51423723
Menace is a /wvt/ prime cloutchaser, she will follow the scent of money.
Pure business mindset
Her threads are /jidf/ and /#/, as she post there now

>>51389454
Xalabussy...

>>51423723
she did but you're not supposed to remember that

>>51423723
Honestly going that hard on GFE especially after saying in that past that you hate it is a massive red flag for me, way bigger than any that the cyberlive drama raised.

>judging chuubas who you clearly don't watch
pottery

I don't even hate Lumi, I just like stirring the pot to trigger lumicucks because they're insufferably annoying

Ok I see now. Anyway I wish all vtubers good luck and success.
Except Enna.

>>51392293
>begs the question
Holy ESL

>>51423723
Menace's isnt a very well off person and her only skill is vtubing and she's damn good at it. She's gonna use it as her ticket to get out of poverty and I cant fault her for it.

>>51424500
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/beg-the-question

>>51424500
anon...

>>51424552
>unironically linking to the Cambridge dictionary
Let me guess, you're one of those NPC zoomers that unironiclaly use made-up words like "guesstimate" or "bothie" or "aroace", aren't you?
>>51424565
The correct phrase should be "brings up the question".
"Begging the question" is just another name for the "circular logic" logical fallacy (a.k.a Leddit and Twitter's favorite)

>>51424669
every word of yours trying to sound smarter only makes you sound dumber.

>>51424669
*unironically, fuck off hiro moot

>>51424669
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>51424500
Retardchama ...

What did Menace even do to trigger the Gumi so much? I can't recall her ever saying anything bad about her

>>51425107
gossip logs + /wvt/ past

>>51425107
you dont need to do anything to trigger gumi

>>51425107
They are rivals. Menace is better at vtubing at Lumi but Lumi is better at social engineering a support group to defend her. They both despise each other for things that happened in the past and see no chance of making up. Now their fanbases also see the rivalry between them and defend their oshis.

there's a very high chance both megbert and lumi are in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>51425666
Which one of them posted this? >>51424669

Lumi and Menace should make up and kiss maybe take their clothes off too

>>51408147
those are tics you do irl retard, not in text.

>>51416457
what if all the cyberlive drama happened because seething femanons got lost on their way to /cgl/

>>51425666
Lumi? unlikely, Meg? wait she wake up

>>51425836
This is how all vtuber drama should be settled

>>51412452
Show me any recent art of her that's not AI.

>>51426549
All vtuber drama should be settled by Lumi and Menace having sex?

To this day Menace still has the best GFE stream ever created https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJWP7e9jOkQ
rivals Nene Amano

>>51425761
Meg, Lumi is 100% still sleeping and won't wake up for like 2 more hours atleast

>>51426699
Yes

>>51426705
eh, my girlfriend is better

>>51426813
Your girlfriend does trashy coombait, Menace speaks from the heart

>>51426847
she does not but keep believing that btw

>Menace speaks from the heart
you made spit the water i was drinking from the laugh motherfucker

>>51388421
good, yuri was always better than lumi anyway. w/e the dogshit was with phase i'm sure was more them being fags than yuri breaking any important rule

I will keep jerking off to both Lumi and the clussy.
Through dick, unity.

>>51407294
>Got Yuri to quit Cyberlive but pumped and dumped her, leaving her to self destruct by herself
Yuri brought it upon herself for spending more time VTweeting than streaming. Plus whatever made Phase terminate her.

>>51408354
>I left that place after I fapped to Yuri's IRL height.
You can't just say that without dropping the numbers, anon

>>51428039
She fucking took the money and dipped

>>51423723
>>51424267
People aren't allowed to go "actually maybe things aren't like that?". She's a woman, maybe it was a phase.

>>51424700
He is right about begging the question.

>>51428585
It always just looks pathetic when they switch sides.

>>51429583
Not as pathetic as thinking of everything in terms of imaginary unmovable "sides"

>>51389312
idk why you think pcg would report this, this is stuff most of us know and we hate xal
We just dont think lumi is all that evil, bitchy yeah

>>51429583
whores will do anything for money

>>51429583
Yikes

>>51429583
What will she be like as Coni? I didn’t get any serious GFE vibes from the debut but knowing what she’s like I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out later. I’m sure she knows paywalling the more intense GFE content behind memberships is a tried and true method of success.

>>51429649
>a specific /vt/ comment encompasses everything
get professional help

>>51429583
Being able to take in new information and change your mind on things is something which separates humans from animals and NPCs.

>>51408354
I'm edging myself I need to know the fat cats height anon

>>51430610
Yeah I’m sure that’s what it was, she had a profound realization that made her change her stance.
Totally not her just realizing there’s more paypigs to be attracted if she pretends to be interested in her pathetic viewers.

>>51430610
based getting exploited cuck
Be ready for the donothon, you are getting milked dry like the stupid cow you are

>Coni just posted on her twitter
Hi menace/megbert/coni.
I hope you are having a good laugh at this thread

Sex with coni

>>51388254
phase will go belly up way before something happens to jew corp

>>51413848
huh so lumi and lia really suck troon cock

>>51431476
I hope Gen 2 succeeds...

>>51431538
All that money spent on watchalongs, on ads, on a shitty animated trailer that got mogged by a literal who corpo. I hope gen 2’s CCV reflects the investment in a months time

>>51431689
They should've stayed with the same guy that did the first trailer, but instead they went for a studio who kept delaying the project to the point they had no choice but to rush it cuz Offkai was getting close

>>51431689
oh they will as soon as they get monetized with the 48 hours donothons on each

>>51429583
God I love her

>>51430610
based retard

>>51430351
she'll learn from her senpai and masturbate on members streams

>>51418749
>>51419359
Kill yourself you "QRD? QRD? QRD?" reddit spacing mongoloid faggot. Do your archive reps on your day off you lazy piece of shit ESL subhuman.
And no one even talked about the homos in the first place. You are coming into the Lumi/Cyberlive thread with hololives problems. How fucking retarded are you exactly?

>>51429583
this is funny because she's correct in that tweet and it's not even anti-gfe or gachi
but then she decided to go all out on coomer pandering, without actually doing anything lewd

>>51424669
Begs the question was used way before twitter, reddit or the internet even existed. You are a literal shit for brains mongoloid and you should neck yourself while wearing a silly hat.

>>51408443
Is that even her though? The username is Kyle, and anyone could grab a piece of Lumi fanart and make it their pfp.
I mean, based if true, but I'm not sold yet.

>>51429583
I fully agree with her take on the upper right.
It's okay for streamers to be lewd. It's not okay for chatters to be flirty and push boundaries. I want to see cute girls acting sexy, not male fans. Know your place.

>>51388421
Yuri was declining up until she left Phase because she was barely streaming. You're comparing a consistently streaming NotYuri to Yuri at her worst, due to not streaming.

>>51391749
How does it feel to be a cuck defending a literal OF whore?

>>51435516
I’m not disagreeing with what she posted as Megbert. I’m just pointing out her hypocrisy. Look at the bottom right tweet and the names of her videos as Menace. She 100% knows what kind of audience that behavior attracts and was pandering to them intentionally.
Now whether you want to believe she had a change of heart or was just baiting coomers for the money, that’s a different argument.

>>51431689
With the reception they got i am sure they will

>>51394127
>even the one who joined Phase with Lumi doesn't like her anymore
People keep saying this, but what are you basing this on?
The reason I struggle to wrap my head around it is because Kirsche is friends with NotYuri and also Pippa. Meanwhile Pippa and Lumi are friends, and Kirsche has also collabed with Lumi in the past.
I find it hard to believe that Pippa could continue to hang out with someone who cozies up to a Lumi-hater without that straining Pippa and Lumi's relationship.

>>51403689
>Publicly she removed him as a moderator but he was still apart of her discord under another name and given moderating priviledges
What was the new mod's name, and is there proof that he was the same person as Sei, and that Lumi knew about it?

>>51436173
NTA, but everything points to a slow drift between Lumi and Yuri, not an explosive fallout. Lumi herself said she and Yuri had a big age gap and that Yuri made some "new friends". Also, Lumi and Yuri were doing just fine on the Invaders Anniversary, it even felt like a return to form for them at points. No one really suspected anything off until Yuri went radio silent.

>>51413001
>Simply, her choosing to keep intact harmful (doxfag) relationships
You keep saying this, but I have yet to see any proof that she knew about it. As far as we know, she could have unmodded him as soon as she found out.

>>51436173
They were undoubtedly very close at one point but I think they simply drifted apart over time. Lumi always has had a much greater work ethic than Yuri so it’s likely they just started communicating less frequently as Lumi continued to push her streams further while Yuri was inconsistent at best.
notYuri looks to be really putting in the effort now though so I’m rooting for her to keep it up.

>>51413848
I've heard plenty of drama surrounding Kiki, but nothing about her being transphobic (based if true).
How do you know Lumi unfollowed her for being allegedly transphobic (cringe if true), rather than for all the various other things that came out about her (that I'm afraid I'll get banned if I say)?

>>51436665
It came to me in a dream.

>>51436665
there was never anything that indicated Lumi unfollowed Kiki for a specific reason other than just general drama surrounding her. I have no idea where the transphobic rrat came from.

>>51436789
I guess what I'm trying to find out is if the transphobia came out at a different time or the same time as everything else.
Cuz if the transphobia came out first, and Lumi unfollowed her immediately after, but then everything else didn't come out until later, then that would support anon's rrat.
Whereas if the transphobia and everything else came out at around the same time, then we'd have no way of knowing which part caused Lumi to unfollow her.

>>51407092
I would never betray my oshi for filthy seething femanon pussy.

>>51436665
Kiki has vaguely /pol/ views but she's not very political

>>51407092
If we had rizz we wouldn't be watching vtubers

>>51437142
Sounds pretty similar to Lumi. Apolitically racist.

>>51408354
Are you talking about Den of Thieves? Because there's really not much 4chan humor there. Seems pretty sanitized to me.

>>51412700
Archive reps about what? I've done plenty already. Didn't find anything remotely damning. Well, about Lumi anyway. Pippa's a different story.

>>51437142
Kiki is based and its a shame that Lumi hates her because I feel like they could have been good friends

>>51417350
See >>51407837
>I have hit Sei with the "now that you're seeing someone I'm not going to intrude". Hopefully he just falls off once he realizes his plan has failed
This seems an awful lot like Lumi deflecting Sei's attempts to groom her. What say you?

>>51438231
Way I see it, they had some kind of fling but she changed her mind(too bad she didn't do it before CL girls started hating her because of him)

>>51419703
Sei might've been the catalyst, but they were clearly already harboring seethe over Lumi being more successful than them and "le pickme 4channer".
It's also not clear from those leaks whether they knew about Sei doxfagging yet, or if they were just jealous of his donos.

>>51420666
>/pcg/ shitposters wants console war with /jidfg/
I think it's the other way around.

>>51438542
Can I have some of what you’re smoking friend?

>>51420666
Yeah /pcg/ are all falseflaggers spending months making Lumi seethe threads and baiting hate as an elaborate ploy to shill her.