/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>51335419
>JP news source in an EOP shithole
I don't know what you were expecting

Pretty sure it was posted on the board when it came out. And when I say posted, I mean spammed.

>>51335503 (me)
Is it new? I can't tell. Anyway, translate the relevant part, weeb.

>>51335419
Was spammed ages on the catalog and in /#/

Can't wait for them to go further into nijisanjifying HoloEN

>>51335419
Did you and your discord buddies only just found out about it now?

>>51335783
eop

>>51335419
Why is nobody talking about it?
Because it's fucking boring and not entertaining. Show me some video games and explosions and then we'll talk

>>51335959
What about exploding video games? That do it for ya, chief?

>>51335419
From what I understand it doesn't confirm that. It just says that they plan to debut new vtubers both domestically and abroad without giving a timeframe. Although I'm sure that makes en3 and jp7 this year pretty likely.

>>51335419
Are this things even reliable? I always saww them as companies stroking their own cocks and trying to get more investors.

>>51335419
The more I think about it the more I realize that /vt/ truly is the number #1 news source destination for any Vtuber fans out there. All the news, events, drama, tweets, no matter how Rratty gets posted here. How based is that? I KNEEL to you, vtCHADS. and I KNEEL to you /#/ - number GODS for singlehandedly carrying this place from an uninteresting ghost town barren wasteland.

>>51340939
ESL-chama...

>>51335419
Translate all of that because I'm not reading it.

>Questioner : Currently, male VTubers are debuting both in Japan and overseas. Please explain the current situation.

>Kaneko : Most of the celebrities who debuted last year are male. A male VTuber for the English-speaking world called “Holostars English -TEMPUS-”, which debuted last year, currently has a total of 1.34 million registered users.
>The number of simultaneous connections and the number of customers who throw super chats in the distribution have been confirmed to be quite large. I have high hopes that there is a lot of room for that.
Welp they are doubling down on the Stars
RIP HoloEN

>>51341729
Yeah no. What's the actual translation? You're being way too obvious.

>Questioner : I think it's been a while since the last new domestic VTuber was added to the main "Holo Live". Do you have any plans for a new debut this year?

>Kaneko : I think it would be better to refrain from going into detail beyond what was written in the brief, but as you can see in the excerpt from the brief on the upper right of the slide, we are aiming to acquire a wider fan base. It is assumed that multiple new VTubers will debut in Japan and overseas.
>Rather than unnecessarily extending the number of new VTuber debuts, the basic idea is to carry out steady production at a pace that does not dilute the brand value of Hololive Productions, and to make new debuts that contribute to improving the brand value.
Regarding new gens from JP and overseas, they're being worked on but have no set release date yet and are intentionally kept slow so as to not dilute the value of each individual chuuba
>>51341779
I'm sorry anon but that's the real one

>>51341779
Essentially accurate

>>51335996
Last one we had was cyberpunk exploding my 2080Ti.
We need a new one.

>>>/vt/numbers

>>51341854
>>51341880
Ah welp. I can at least rest easy knowing two female gens are debuting first

>Questioner : Regarding the newly invested studio. I've read that you can express yourself in short videos, etc. What are your company's thoughts on focusing on short videos, etc., especially in reaching young people?

>Kaneko : Now, with the anti-epidemic measures against COVID-19 going backwards to some extent, the opportunities for people of all ages, including young people, to watch short videos such as “TikTok” and “YouTube shorts” are increasing. I'd say it's a trend. In order to reach a wide range of people, including young people, we believe that it is effective to increase the production of short content.
Cover is aware that the covid buff is wearing off, their strategy to not fall off in terms of relevancy is to push harder for shorts content
This same point was addressed again later with this question

>Questioner : I got the impression that you are looking for a wide range of products, including mid-priced goods. Especially for MD, do you have an image that people in the light segment who have not watched your distribution will also purchase it? I would like to ask you about the image of purchasing goods.

>Kaneko : I think the main purchase targets are fans and viewers. For example, the number of junior high and high school viewers is increasing, and on e-commerce sites, credit card payments require parental permission before purchases can be made. Also, recently, a variety of viewing experiences are spreading, such as people who mainly watch clipped videos and "YouTube shorts" and do not watch many distributions.
>As a first step, we are thinking of positioning it as a product for a wide range of fans who are watching in that way to promote it.
TL;DR they want to tap more of the zoomer audience, produce more shorts to reach them and create merchandise for shorts and clipwatchers
The old audience of dedicated stream watchers is getting less reliable

>>51342301
Fuck. HoloPro is going to be newfag central.

>>51342404
And it's going to be intentional

>>51341880
>1.34m registered users
>Most of the homos are 3view
Where did they get this number?
>Even /#/'s wont like like this

>>51340939
Go back.

>>51342451
adding up all the subscriber counts

>>51342451
>>1.34m registered users
combined number of all Stars subscribers or something like that

>>51342451
>Sub count
All the more proving that Cover literally does not give a shit about CCV

>>51342480
>>51342500
> subscriber counts
for all we know, 1 user subscribed to all of them

>>51342480 (me)
They do this in their financial presentations to boast about the girls too so its not unusual. Equally dumb anyway.

>>51342542
Yes, me.

>>51342451
登録者 = subscribers (on Youtube), but literally "registrants".
Checking just now:
>Regis Altare 254k
>Noir Vesper 217k
>Axel Syrios 209k
>Magni Dezmond 204k
>Banzoin Hakka 126k
>Gavis Bettel 124k
>Machina X Flayon 113k
>Josuiji Shinri 102k
1.349m, isreal.

>>51342655
How the fuck does Hakka have a higher count than the clown

>Questioner : I think you've heard that some major labels have debuted and their music sales are increasing. If possible, please provide a breakdown of Super Chat, Membership, and Music sales within distribution/content.

>Kaneko : Regarding music, the number of people who listen to it through streaming is increasing significantly, but the situation is that widespread distribution, such as monetizing highly profitable CD sales by distributing them nationwide, is not progressing. In terms of economic efficiency, the reality is that it does not occupy such a large composition in the distribution/content area. In the future, I think there is a possibility that the direction of distribution will be multifaceted, and the region and customer base will also diversify.
>On the other hand, when it comes to YouTube revenue, which makes up the bulk of the distributed content space, most of it comes from memberships and superchat. In addition, the ratio is more membership.
Music is not making much money for Hololive
Youtube streams are the main source of incoming with memberships making more than superchats but both being considered the bulk of Covers income

>>51342715
mexicans

>>51342547
did they really combine the girls' subscribers numbers?
I only remember Gura, Kobo, and Marine being the individual highlights instead.

>>51342808
They do if they're not the top of their branch.

>>51342808
Yes, every presentation has contained a slide like this. In fact usually they don't break out the groups separately, they just boast about 70 million registrants not mentioning that likely 60% of them are the same people subscribing multiple times.

>>51342781
No wonder Mori was shilling her Blu-ray hard. People would rather stream her songs rather than buy a physical copy.

>>51342795
Fucking spics.

>>51342655
Deduct by 7x102k, since Shinri fans subbed to all of Holostars. Thus half of them is gone.

>>51343011
That makes no sense since they started at 50k subs on debut.

>>51342899
>Original Music and Short Video Content

>>51342522
>8 faggots: 1.35 million
>the 2 least subbed Council members: 1.47 million
>the 2 least subbed ID members: 1.26 millions
Yeah, they're truly doing amazingly. So much so that it means the market wants more of them instead of new Hololive gens.

>>51343132
That's not what the investor is pointing out but good to know you're seething that they're not gonna throw Holostars in the gutter.

>>51343164
And I'm not implying that they should throw them in the gutter, but go off.

>Questioner : The industry is currently in an oligopoly, but there are many new entrants. For example, major companies have also entered the market, but it seems that they are not doing well.
>What do you think about your company's strengths and why new entrants are struggling? Also, if you think that there is a possibility that such a company will enter the market and become a competitor, please let us know as well.

>Kaneko : Having a strong and large fan community in this industry is a very big barrier to entry. I think the network externality of the fan community is a barrier to entry.
>Fans cut out content and create secondary creations with passion, expanding the number of fans and creating excitement for VTubers. We understand that we were able to create a strong fan community and expansion cycle early on with such network externalities, creating a gap with new entrants. Our briefing on growth potential also illustrates the importance of such cycles.
>On the other hand, the new layer may pose a threat, but I think there are different opinions about this. For example, anime-style VTubers are currently marketable, but if a VTuber with a completely new content taste expands a large community outside our network, that VTuber could become a threat. I think.
Interesting insight: Cover's success is self-perpetuating since a large fanbase creates clips and fan content that attracts new fans thus making the fanbase even larger and encouraging further fan content
Clippers also get repeatedly shout out throughout the document as being important for channel growth
They are also confident to have anime style vtubing locked down as the biggest player in the game but are aware of alternate style vtubers being a potential risk

>>51343132
I don't know how you turned "wow male vtubers have potential huh?" To "let's flood the market with male chuubas" even though it's clearly stated that Holo has plans to release two girl gens.

Did they explain to the investors why their top talent doesn't stream anymore?

>>51342542
waiting for neo-susan to purge all dead subs

>>51343267
ALL OUT WAR

>>51343275
>it's clearly stated that Holo has plans to release two girl gens
Where? Also where are they? It's been 14 months since the last Hololive debut and HoloEN doesn't have a new gen in almost 2 years, so where are the new girls they're apparently promising? They confirmed new debuts for this fiscal year in their latest financial report, but that could mean anything.

>>51343386
Right here >>51341854

>>51343300
No the majority of this document is merchandise and numbers growth talk
They didn't go into any individual talents performance

>>51343469
>It is assumed that multiple new Vtubers will debut in Japan and overseas
That still doesn't say two gens, and unless the translation didn't pick specifics not saying new HoloLIVE debuts does not make me hopeful, even if the question itself was about Hololive. Also not wanting to dilute is a retarded statement because that was what exactly happened with Tempus after they added 4 more dudes way too early while the HoloEN girls are already starting to openly talk about the lack of new members so Cover's "strategy" and "thought process" was misguided at best. We know an ID4 will debut probably around Q4 of this year and that's about it, with HoloEN probably taking even longer if the retards only started looking for new girls last month.

>>51343880
It's most likely referring to ID4 but wouldn't it be funny if "new overseas debuts" meant another gen of StarsEN?

>>51341729
>>51341854
These make sense. Holostars need more members, Hololive doesn't. We need to steal viewers from Niji, not making the current viewers switch their oshi from one Holomem to another Holomem, that's pointless.

Just hoping whoever is in EN3 is a based loli, we need someone to fill Gura's role.

>>51341880
>warming up fans through the distribution
They gonna make mandatory homo collabs...

>>51343164
kek homos are already there

>>51341880
LMAO
if they could use CCV and income they would have said it
but to say erm sub counts
LMAO
that's how you know they are dog shit

>>51335483
you're free to go back to your fellow dogfuckers over at /jp/. nothing is keeping you here.

>>51344610
>We need to steal viewers from Niji
>Niji already imploding
>Their biggest male going on a downeard spiral
>Existence of Gavis Bettel and the SC/Menshi Vacuum.
The clown is only the beginning.

>>51342655
A single Myth member have more subs than 8 homos even if you exclude Gura, their CCV is constantly going down from debut, supas are down etc. what a waste of time it was.

It's holokr, not id and not en.

>>51345003
Wrong.

>>51343267
>but if a VTuber with a completely new content taste expands a large community outside our network, that VTuber could become a threat. I think.
like what, realistic 3d model avatar?

>>51345050
>if they could use CCV and income they would have said it
They did talk about income quite a lot actually
And the reason they prefer subcount over CCV is because bigger numbers look more appealing to investors
Also subcount is a much easier statistic to comprehend than CCV which fluctuate with every stream

>>51345145
They did not specify anything but my interpretation is that they're talking about people like Filian who rivals their bigger talents while doing 3D only content

>>51344131
The interview talks about the girls so no.

>>51345133
That would be an interesting move, the vtubing scene in KR is really big

>>51345050
I agree that using total number of subscribers is fucking stupid, but it's not like they only did it for the homos.

>>51345146
CCV is usually just a metric for numberfag chuubas anyway but only for the stream content and not whatever /#/ likes to spew on the daily.

>All this good news
>Gura still MIA
I am 99% convinced she's already left, they are just feverishly trying to pull a "Kizuna AI" and find her replacement

>>51345195
if we had holokr instead of tempus, hololive would've been owning the eastern hemisphere already. They got their priorities wrong.

>>51345290
Do we have enough despeate korean 2 views to groom into holoKR?

>>51345313
Plenty. It's the land of failed smart students trying to get into law or medical school and female idols who failed to earn their big break in an agency.

>>51345350
So its full of kiaras? Are they sane though?

>>51344622
>Just hoping whoever is in EN3 is a based loli, we need someone to fill Gura's role.
A loli that also has a good voice, can entertain with any content, with pitch-perfect singing.

>>51345145
like...
SUPER????

>>51344622
Luto and Kana would be good fits, just need to give them an introductory course on how not to burn out like their sister

>>51345417
While i do like luto, she will need discipline and some work ethic.to cut it in a place like hololive.

>>51345133
They should have moved faster. Hololive could have completely dominated the scene, now they'll have sizeable competition in the form of StelLive and Isegye. Would have been better if they didn't give time for their competition to grow in the area.

>>51345133
>>51345290
Do gooks really going to love hologooks?
EN has 2 adjacent gooks and they're less popular to an aussie,an austrian, and even indogs

>>51345390
Koreans are not sane, no.

>>51345165
Filian might only rival them in subs, she's a shorts spammer.

>>51345145
They probably had something like Code Miko in mind, if somebody got successful with a group of those semi-realistic 3D style avatars it might be a game-changer to some extent but they are hard/expensive to maintain so it's rather unlikely.

>>51345451
>EN has 2 adjacent gooks
Who?
Also gook corps modelled on Hololive have the biggest vtubers on twitch.

>>51335419
There's an English transcript here
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/8b8f1dd7/e496/4759/be9d/d0b615b2b131/20230612180242646s.pdf

>>51344610
>new homos will 100% bring new viewers
>new girls for some reason won't
Retarded beggar, stupid false-flagger, dumb shitposter or all three at the same time?

>>51344131
>>51345166

Auditions for Tempus 3 started in December though so in theory they might drop any day now, it would be extremely stupid and out of touch with the fanbase but so was Tempus 2.

Seriously though, how fucking entitled can one person be like Gura, to just ditch the easiest job in the world when all these metrics are practically guaranteeing her a fat wallet?

>>51345706
I think when you have more money than you can spend you see the world through different eyes.

>>51345706
Why would she work? She gets money anyway.

>>51345629
Tempus 2 was 50% done by the time Tempus 1 debuted. Yeah, they absolutely should've debuted all 6 at that time and moved back to HoloEN but I guess Cover really wanted to nuke their box in record time. Right now it makes 0 sense to do another gen after seeing their average performance less than a year after debut, and 4 more faggots would only serve to thin their dwindling audience ever harder because not only it won't bring more fans it will also annihilate any good will Hololive-only fans have towards the company, and those were already puzzled at best back when Tempoop dropped less than 6 months after the first group.

>>51345530
Ina and Kronii afaik, also I kinda wonder can hologooks move gooks away to YT? gook streaming market are very twitch based and I doubt holo can utilize twitch well

>>51345530
should be 4, Ina, Kronii, IRyS and Bae

>>51343267
Yagoo watched some of our streamers.

.t chink

>>51345706
The problem is not that Gura doesn't want to make money. The problem is that she betrays the hopes of her community, even though no one forced her to take such a public job in the first place. A person should have at least minimal responsibility, even if she is popular.

>>51335419
>en3 and jp7 this year
Won't happen. Hololive is a male company now for some reason.

>>51345616
>>new homos will 100% bring new viewers
Yes, the new viewers aka former Nijifags as proven by Tempus, the goal is making that happen on JP side as well
>>new girls for some reason won't
Nijifags don't even watch the girls in their own company why the fuck would they watch new girls from Hololive?

>>51346561
>proven by Tempus
Oh yeah, all those 3views are certainly getting views from disgruntled nijifags, and the sc cope doesn't even work when only Bettel is getting anything these days. Also the fact that you think Cover can't get new fans for the girls elsewhere while completely ignoring Holox makes me think you're just a retarded shitpost. Inb4 Shillox.

>>51345765
That doesn't add up with
>less popular to an aussie,an austrian, and even indogs

>>51346830
That refers to Seoul Popcon anon, they invited Kiara-Bae last year and Zeta-Ollie this year and their invites are usually based on popularity among gooks, cmiiw tho

>>51345873
Don't worry, Gura will be back. Less than a week before her Birthday. Expect it to be a big event.

>>51343267
>On the other hand, the new layer may pose a threat, but I think there are different opinions about this. For example, anime-style VTubers are currently marketable, but if a VTuber with a completely new content taste expands a large community outside our network, that VTuber could become a threat. I think.
I'm happy they recognize this. Hopefully searching for other potentials than the average vtuber streamer.

>>51345145
plave, Neuro-sama, and even vtubers with capeshit mamas are a possibility.

Why should I care, these are the retards that pressured Coco to leave.

>>51347168
>VTuber with a completely new content taste expands a large community outside our network, that VTuber could become a threat. I think.
so they actually do think Niji's hold on the male vtuber market is a threat and they're trying to compete

>>51345145
See >>51345845 korean,chinese manhwa style vtubers.

>>51345753
That's all true but we have confirmation that male auditions are still ongoin less than 4 months ago (male and female).

>>51347440
korean agencies dominating the Twitch market is also probably one of the things Cover sees as a threat.

>>51347815
Cover has so little exposure on Twitch and Jeff is a greedy fuck, they're at a disadvantage.

>>51347520
Don't forget that the open audition for ID has no mention of gender

>>51343386
They're being extremely picky.

>>51348208
Or they're being trained harder, longer and more comprehensively to instill a sense of work ethic and responsibility.

>>51347520
This "confirmation" is as reliable as the one that they were looking for new girls since December of 2021, and there's no guarantee that they'll go through with it when Tempus bled almost all of it's audience and it can't even hold itself above the 3view line on average. And no, Vesper, Bettel and Magni performing ""decently"" doesn't help when the other 5 are competing to see who's the biggest runt and hit new lows every week. Tempus 2 was a bet that only gave Cover a good sc baiter but didn't expand their fanbase unlike how all the other Hololive gens did in the past, and it actually ended up doing the complete opposite of that. Granted all of what I'm saying can end up being pure wishful thinking and Cover is that completely retarded to debut another homoEN gen barely a year after the last one, but if that happens that I'll just enjoy seeing who will be the first one to hit 2view status.

>>51348003
If you mean their last auditions in February they were for HoloID4 because they specified it, just like the new auditions form for HoloEN. The recent open auditions for the branch is barely 2 months old so even if they are interested in making a StarsID for whatever retarded reason we won't be seeing them until next year at the earliest.

>>51348208
Being picky doesn't justify 18 months without any results. Myth and Council took 5-ish month from the end of the auditions to their debuts and I severely doubt they'll be able to get better talents with how long they've been taking to debut a new gen.

>>51348239
Keep dreaming. Cover never did that with any of their gens and EN3 won't be the first time they'll try that. Also there's literally no point in that for over a year if they're not making content, which is the main reason for why they're getting hired.

>>51342404
Going to? It's been that since late 2019.

>>51335783
Holy schizophrenia, you guys suffer from rampant delusions I swear

>>51343386
They spent all their resources on Tempus thinking that the EN branch was doing fine meanwhile the girls themselves are begging for new blood.
If they finally debut EN3 near concert time I’d be optimistic that they’re speeding up the timeline for EN4 afterwards.

>>51342451
>>51342655
"combined subs" is a completely useless number because there's no way to know how many of them are unique.

>>51343132
Thanks for the ammo cover

>>51349137
That's my hope as well. An EN4 debuting at the beginning of their next fiscal year would be a great way to make up the time they wasted in 2022, but this is pure hopium until we get any confirmation after the concert (or none at all).

>>51335419
>>51345884
Luxiem power baby

I kind of hope that EN3 jobs initially, but that Cover chooses some very talented girls, like a failed musician (violinist) or an autistic gamer or a failed ballerina or a film school graduate. Their runt nature will give them insecurities that will make them stream more or make them feel like they have nothing to lose allowing them to leverage their particular talents even if such streams might bleed viewers.

>>51352564
I think a gen of very young talents is likely since Cover tries to get in touch with the zoomer crowd as stated in this Q&A

>>51353339
They need a hag to tardwrangle the girls too.

>>51340939
>I KNEEL to you, vtCHADS. and I KNEEL to you /#/ - number GODS for singlehandedly carrying this place from an uninteresting ghost town barren wasteland.
MOST

>>51340939
THE
MOST

>>51353339
A branch that's only made up of young talent will be stupidly flaky and stop being consistent faster than Gura. JP2 is pretty much Subaru and Choco while the other 3 are always on hiatus, and if you're smart enough you will be able to add 2 and 2 together and understand why.

EN3 is gonna be hopeless anyway, at least 3/4 of them will be "dumb asian-american girl with anime avatar", collab with tempus and fall into sub 1k ccv in half a year.

They better focus on jp and never hire a woman older than 35+.