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>What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Can I self-post?
Self-posting is allowed as long as you pretend you're not doing it.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Vegas Pro.

Open company auditions:

https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/

Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Twitter branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

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>>51220270

>> No.51295424

big Kuro bunda

>> No.51295442

the cutest cat alive? truly https://www.twitch.tv/sambukaasmr

>> No.51295577

what do i stand to gain from shilling myself here

>> No.51295686

>>51295577
Like, 50 followers over the course of a few months

>> No.51295900

>>51295577
well if you want the 4chan community to be your foundation, you get that

i unironically want this, i can't deal with normies

>> No.51296055
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>>51295424
I support this message

>> No.51296456

Posted this in last thread by mistake

>>51293330
I'm turned off by how political and edgy you are, it makes you seem crazy and unhinged.
If people think you're a lunatic, they won't want to associate themselves with you.

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>>51295900
I don't want to go too normie either, but I also don't want to become a Beatani/Pippa like fan community. There's such a thing as being too 4chan, I've noticed.

>> No.51297446

>>51297224
You can't control who finds your chat (even if you don't shill yourself here) but you can absolutely control how they behave in your sphere at the very least. If someone's being an edgy teen, being an edgy teen or an annoying coomer there's nothing wrong with telling them to chill out or giving them a 3-day to get the message across. From what I've noticed, any time someone gets an obnoxious community like that it's because they either do nothing about it or worse actively seek and encourage it.

>> No.51297480

>Viewer number keeps going up by 1 or 2 then dropping again
So people are seeing my stream, clicking it, then leaving because I'm boring?

>> No.51297574

>>51297480
yeah honestly probably when i look for someone to watch i click off pretty fast too

>> No.51298517

>>51297480
Yes, and that's normal, that means people are getting eyes on your stream thumbnail and are interested enough to click on it. Getting someone to last for an hour is cool and all, but the absence of those clicks would mean you're not being discovered at all.

>> No.51298834

The Digby menhara arc was very disappointing
A guy like that you'd think once the floodgates opened it would be the birth of a new lolcow
Instead he gets over it in hours and overcomes the problem that made him flip out
2/10 menhara arc

>> No.51299059

>>51296456
Honestly this is a big problem for all kayfabe heavy vtubers. Like Alva look at Alva. He's not going to be such an asshole towards everyone offscreen so there's going to be a huge disconnect between his screen persona and how he talks to everyone behind the scenes which we know he's doing since he seems to have been let into the gen4 secret clubhouse judging by his frequent interactions with them. So someone took the risk of interacting with him behind the scenes to see if he wasn't just an asshole.
Herahera meanwhile. His kayfabe is a bit unhinged and ain't nobody gonna want to interact with a crazy schizo just to check if he is actually a normal guy behind the mask.

>> No.51299642

>>51299059
Is that why nobody in gen4 interacts with me? They think I'm some kind of crazy schizo because I made my model look a little silly to offset my lack of artistic ability?

>> No.51299868

>>51299642
Not gen4 either, but back when you were an MSPaint sanic, I was kinda wary of the witness protection business.

>> No.51299948

>>51299642
No idea what they think of you. But most peoples impression of you seems to be "Herahera crazy"
Even if you managed to get around that and talk to them directly there's still a good chance they wouldn't want to interact with you publicly for fear of damaging their own image by association

>> No.51299974

>>51299642
I think it was the voice changer. It made you legit hard to understand most of the time. Most people just don't have enough time in the day to overcome that for somebody that they don't know. At any time there are 100s of people you dont know vying for our attention, put any sort of annoyance or roadblock in the way and people just wont bother and move on to something else.

>> No.51300041

hi g-clef here, trying to get the word out in as many places as possible:

i'm putting together a collab and the idea is we'd all try and go full immersion learning mode and stick as much to possible to speaking only japanese for the duration of the stream. no penalty if you need to use english for something or other, or to explain a meaning someone doesnt know, since i want to make everyone of all japanese levels feel welcome to trying to participate. i am trying to set it up with activities that encourage lots of talking so we can practice speaking and listening, but that can also hopefully be accomplished with very little speaking/jp knowledge.

the idea is more for it to be fun and good for learning to us, rather than to be perfect watching content, but i am hoping it will at least be interesting for people who might also be learning japanese (or just to see their oshis struggling)

i am currently also investigating the possibility of having some automatic TTS and translation going on the stream that tries to pick up whatever we are saying so english only watchers can still have a semblance of fun, and make fun of us for saying really broken stuff.

if you're interested, ping me on discord or twitter!

>> No.51300227

>>51299868
It was a joke because the point of vtubing is wearing a mask and it was a silly and impossible explanation... The FBI will restrict your access to the internet and things like that under witness protection...
>>51299948
OK that might be my fault, I started the "Scary Herahera" posting because it was funny and threads were on page 9 and I couldn't think of anything else to post for bumps.
>>51299974
Honestly I feel like I should just return to that for most of my streaming. Nobody sticks around anyways, so why not make it more fun for the people that do?

>> No.51300608

>>51300227
Personally I found the voice changer very grating, yet there was something about vibe you had while using it that's changed after stopping. Maybe it was a transition from very weird but cool to only a bit weird, but suffering from uncanny valley.

I'm not sure returning to it is the answer, maybe you need to iterate and find a less jarring solution?

>> No.51300738

I've also realised I hold racist prejudices against your normal voice accent that put me off lmao

>> No.51300882

>>51300608
Yeah I was thinking that too. I haven't been as funny or even enjoying streaming as much after I dropped the voice.
>>51300738
I have an accent?

>> No.51300965

>>51300882
The voice was anti-funny.

>> No.51301225

>>51300965
Which forced me to get funnier as a result. I'm not saying the voice made me funnier, I fully understand it was awful. I'm saying it made me actively try more, which made me funnier.

>> No.51301398

>>51300882
To go into this in perhaps more detail than is necessary:

Everyone has an accent, though since we're so used to our own background we filter it out and don't perceive our own accent in ourselves or those who talk like us, It's more than accent though, it's also what vocabulary we use, the pacing and tone of speech, how we culturally use and interpret certain expressions, etc.

All these factors combine to create a biased picture of the person based on how they speak (in a stereotype sense where it's unfair at an individual level but with some accuracy at a population level).

It creates these biases not just around the location where it sounds like you come from, but also around the apparent level of education and sometimes other more nuanced cultural differences.

Your voice changer was so abrasive, it almost completely removed the purely vocal cue aspect of how people normal judge others in this regard (imo).

>> No.51301767

How does one learn to be racist by accent alone
Is it possible to acquire this powerup

>>51300227
The voice changer made your stream sound like an ATHF episode, which had a charm but was not easy to get into.
As for interaction, come on man, I see Albert and L;Q in your chat at the very least, those guys are pretty cool.

>> No.51302064

>>51301767
>How does one learn to be racist by accent alone
>Is it possible to acquire this powerup
In bonglandia there's at least 10 very different regional accents, each with their own strong cultural prejudices against them. One simply has to be learned enough about other parts of the world to pick up on their linguistic subtlety, and extend this system of prejudice to them.

>> No.51302214

>>51301398
I know that, I profile people myself but I usually use it to determine whether I want to be friends with someone.
>>51301767
>Albert and Clonq
They pop in, say Hi, and vanish.

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51302234

While we're on the topic of accents, can we talk about how most american accents suck?

>> No.51302288

Honestly the desperation of this whole "I took off the voice changer guys, now I get to be gen 4 right?" arc is pretty offputting.

>> No.51302380

>>51302234
I'm accent racist against almost all american accents.
Also we should do an accent tier list.

>> No.51302546

Sir may i have small crumbs of *petty dates with a 0 view vtuber after series of suicide baiting and grooming messages*

>> No.51302600

Crazy how there still hasn’t been a babi this past year

>> No.51302912

>>51302546
You're going to have to be satisfied with a malehera because I don't know 0 view girl

>> No.51303906

I need everyone's favorite space-themed/space aesthetic music. I'm going to be doing some kinda slower streams over the coming weeks and I need bgm that won't get me DMCA murdered.
No I'm not the femboy

>> No.51304623

>>51302214
I dunno im not really interested in the games you're playing so i pop in to say hi as support. Its either that or i cant stick around for long.

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>>51302234
I have a distinctly southern accent. and a mild speech impediment. its truly over before it even started

>> No.51304896

>>51303906
autechre are very space, but maybe they're too space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7AGmLgpbmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtccRio01TI

>> No.51304983

>>51302234
much as people go
>British
The bong accents seem fairly popular universally. Even the scummier ones.

>> No.51305005

>>51303906
When in doubt, dova syndrome

>> No.51305014

>>51303906
merzbow woodpecker no2. because fuck u random poster >:3

>> No.51305111

>>51303906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyL_TICbrU

>> No.51305112

>>51305005
I'll probably spend some time digging through Pixabay and Dova at some point but even their stuff gets dinged by Twitch's retarded ContentID analog. I just don't want to put people to sleep looping the same 5 EVE tracks over and over.

>> No.51305270

>>51305112
you've all EVE soundtrack songs to play with right anon? if not I'll hook you up
there's way more than 5 good ones there imo
also if you stream EVE you're a gigachad

>> No.51305488

>>51302600
Haru

>> No.51305590

>>51299642
Michaelis, I don't think anybody is trying to exclude you. I'd be happy to collaborate if you reached out with an interesting idea, and I'm sure others feel similarly. Your Twitter makes me hesitate a bit, though, since it's all soijak and Uncle Ted and MDE kinda stuff. Without making any sort of judgement about that content, I imagine lots of people are scared of the potential consequences of publicly engaging. There are people here taking streaming and growth seriously, despite being small.
You have to consider the cost-benefit analysis: the potential cost of (for example) doing a collab with Herahera/Michaelis is kinda high, so you should make sure that your content is good enough that the benefit is high as well.

>> No.51305680

>>51305270
I'd stream EVE but I'd have to start fresh on a brand new account and that can be suffering even with skill injectors

>> No.51305981

>>51305270
There's way more than five, but if I never heard another song but this for the rest of my life I'd be ok. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANtm-RcrKCc

>> No.51306075

>>51305680
I know what you mean, but I'm also an NPSI FC so even with a fresh account I'd be exposed within days.

I'm trying to work out a character and content concept that would work alongside my existing presence. I think EVE has some incredible potential for viewer engagement though considering literally anyone can fly with you on-stream.

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>>51305981
Before I even opened the video, I knew it would be Red Glowing Dust

>> No.51306280

>>51306075
I think I remember talking to somebody about this. I'm in the same situation.

>> No.51306470

>>51290607

Is this guy actually correct or is he gaslighting me? I wanted to be relatively in character on twitter and try not to do any funny business, so people didn't just assume things about me or my future streams because of it... I assumed being at like 7 followers with only a couple of posts and not even a profile picture or anything was already somewhat of a deed...

>> No.51306607

>>51305014
You monster...

>> No.51306619

>>51304863
Dude southern accents are like the coolest accents coming from America. I fucking love them, especially if you also use generic southern vocabulary lmao..
Gimme a name, I wanna watch a vod or two : D I'm curious about the accent...

Also hey, I have a German accent, I'm just barely above Nordic people when it comes to tolerating a voice

>> No.51306825

>>51306280
There was a streamer who got paid to stream EVE having never played before then stuck with it for quite a while (blueandqueenie or something?). The issue I'm seeing is that it's hard to reconcile teaching the necessary knowledge and UI reading ability for non-EVE viewers to understand what's going on with compelling content for those who do play who you'll be cooperating with.

evemail my toon YISUN ingame if you want to someone to discuss this with at length

>> No.51307043

>>51306825
I think Pippa still has a joke(?) waiting room on her YouTube for an EVE stream sometime next year.

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>>51307043
>anon wasn't lying

>> No.51309327

>>51305112
Video game music is usually pretty safe. I like the music from he X series. Particularly from X 4. Pretty sure I've never been dinged from playing that on stream.

>> No.51310693

>>51305112
Grab some stuff from Endless Space 2

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It's that time again /asp/
Digby streamin so Digby self promoting here because end of the day I do love you guys
Tonight we continue the mount and blading. Riding the open steppe upon a fleet horse with a falcon at our breast

https://www.twitch.tv/digbycat

>> No.51310925

>>51295577
people talk about you or your content, it falls up to you if it's positive or negative

>> No.51311364

If you ever post your link here you will forever be associated with this thread which is either neutral or detrimental.
Happy birthday Miru, I'm glad she stopped wasting her time here.

>> No.51311634

>>51300041
An educational stream would require a native or fluent speaker(s) as a centerpiece to work. Multiple N2 level people will generate gale force cringe for anyone who's had expose to natively spoken JP. Try reaching out to JP chuubas

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>>51302234

>> No.51311834

>>51302234
Just because you can't speak English doesn't give you a right to opine on people who do.

>> No.51311959

>>51311834
Based and true

>> No.51312007

>>51311834
>burgers
>speaking english
choose one kek

>> No.51312058

>>51302234
based, mutts in shambles

>> No.51312373

>>51312007
>Br*tish
>invent a language
>refuse to speak it

>> No.51312506

>>51312058
You operate on American Internet infrastructure, your economy is only sustainable bcs the US subsidizes your defense with its own military spending and disproportionate NATO contributions. Sit the fuck down son

>> No.51312696

>>51306619
im leaving dis thread n gonna stop self posting n promoting n stuff bc menhera but heres a silly stream highlight reel; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuPFuleXEfE

>> No.51312763

>>51312696
who?

>> No.51313147

I think I'm trans.

>> No.51313234

>>51313147
I'm going to transform you into a toaster and violently stick bread in you, forcing you to burn that bread into some delicious toast. I will watch with glee as you shoot that hot toast out of your shaft

>> No.51313722

I hope Lavandel kills herself I'm tired of seeing that NGMI pickme bitch.

>> No.51313777

>>51312506
I don't know or care about all that, still the worst accent mate

>> No.51313921

Guys, guys please. Let's stop arguing about who has the worst accent. It's obviously Australia anyways.

>> No.51313983

>>51302234
aw man

>> No.51314069

>>51313921
Strayan dudes have fun accents, i don't know what you're on about.

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What did Haru mean by this

>> No.51314394

>>51313921
I like it, it's like a watered down British accent

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>>51314284

>> No.51314544

>>51314284
>Vtuber
>irlposts
Why

>> No.51314546

>>51313722
I will now watch her to spite you

>> No.51314574

>>51314544
>Can you believe this WHORE makes and eats FOOD?

>> No.51314589

>>51313722
i love lavandel and i will murder you to defend her honor

>> No.51314741

>Pickmendel posted cringe pride month stuff
>Alina didn't
yeah i'm thinking vampir is the superior spic aspie

>> No.51314830

>>51314284
I was unhappy with how it looked, but I haven't frosted a cake in a long time.
>>51314544
I will probably keep IRL posting limited solely to food posts.

>> No.51314946

>>51314741
She's a furry, you can't love a furry

>> No.51314953

>ywn frost Haru's cake

>> No.51315081

>>51314946
Better than being a groomer enabler, i love my furry wife!

>> No.51315103

>>51314946
I can love both. I have two arms and a large bed.

>> No.51315115

>>51314946
She looks like she fucks human men.

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51315119

Once more, it's time for Silent Hill! Join us if you wish, as I bonk more nurses over the head. Starting in 15m!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizuko

>> No.51315120

>>51306075
>live in rentlands
>attempt stream
>half the screen ends up censored before opsec is good enough
Pain

>> No.51315358

>>51314741
>Cringe pride month stuff
Didn't she post it at the beginning of the month? You're starting to look desperate bringing something that would piss the evil 4chan people off when most of us don't care if she's a faggot or not

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>>51315119

>> No.51316465
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As a stickman chuuba
is it best to stay png, or is going 2D worth a decision?
Asking for a friend of course.

>> No.51316511

>>51316365
This looks like some sort of RPG maker horror game portrait. I dig it.

>> No.51316632

>>51314284
Stop trying to make Haru relevant.
It's so pathetic that you make a bait tweet and then proceed to post it here pretending to be someone that cares.

>> No.51316853

>>51316365
awww, it's so cool to see you drawing haru

>> No.51316896

>>51316632
I'm not Haru you bitter cunt

>> No.51317033

>>51316511
>>51316853
sorry i'm not Hanabi, i just want to share this with you

>> No.51317056

>>51317033
i appreciate you sharing it regardless anon

>> No.51317153

>>51316465
If you're going to L2D a stick figure you may as well design the rest of a character instead of phoning it in.

>> No.51317210

>>51317153
he can't

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>>51317153
simplicity is what I go for so I can adapt my character into any situation. Alan Becker is what I usually bring up here.
>>51317210
Not wrong, not correct either :^]

>> No.51318605

>>51318472
Simple is fine, its going to be rough to market unless you've got some other means of appeal and branding. "literally a stick figure" leaves a lot on the table. It also begs the question "why bother with a L2D when there's nothing to animate"

>> No.51319028

>>51318605
Might as well rig it himself at that point. would be absurdly easy for a stickfigure.

>> No.51319080

Is there any way to make images into a gif with a transparent background without dealing with krita's ungodly UI

>> No.51319163

>>51319080
krita blows for gifs and is basically impossible for one with transparent backgrounds, just google ezgif and try to work with that

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>>51318605
That's fine man. Thanks for the real answer too! I really don't care about climbing or going somewhere big with this, I am in it for the fun and learning about tech while being creative.
My market would be League of Legends and promoting it on TikTok but I don't enjoy that much (despite it creating millions of views >picr related)
>It also begs the question "why bother with a L2D when there's nothing to animate"
Yeah, literally what I am asking. Looking for ideas that might explain why it could be a good thing, but any contra is more than welcome.
Been explained how animating yourself is a skill many people forget about. I still prefer the changing face in png than it would be in L2D. But also I might learn new skills with this or be able to make the character more interactable.
>>51319028
Yeah I was there already, seems possible for me kek. Just as mentioned before features would get lost and actually look lifeless again as I never done something like that and I would have no idea where to start with adding the funny buttons to change facial expressions.

>> No.51320569

>>51319080
in the top right, there's a button u can press that switches the ui's. i use big paint 2 and it's gerat.

>> No.51320709

https://voca.ro/1jp09snVk41N
i know the mixing is trash (bc its j a test without mixing) but what does my voice sound like?

>> No.51320834

>>51320709
Sex

>> No.51320874

hehe finally found the time to stream ! i am severely happy i was able to hit the go live button !!!!!

>> No.51320943

>>51320709
who is this
>>51320874
cogrnatulationsls!!!

>> No.51321109

>>51320874
keep it up, yume!!

>> No.51321118

>>51313234

....Why was this hot?

>> No.51321128

>>51320943
thank !!!!

>> No.51321731

>>51320943
nana

>> No.51321816

>>51320709
sounds like shit but all voices will sound like shit with an instrumental like that

>> No.51323938

https://www.twitch.tv/denpafish
denpa is live and so cute!

>> No.51324754

What happened to Denpaposter? I kinda miss him

>> No.51324841

>>51324754
Either Batman finally got him or he managed to fuck Denpa

>> No.51327442

Haru!

>> No.51327719

Haru is a better femboy than Beryl.

>> No.51327874

Berylsissies...the HaruGODS are laughing at us again...

>> No.51328813

How many times a week do you guys usually stream?

>> No.51329718

>>51328813
I average about 3-4 times a week. Usually stream 10-15 hours each week. Sometimes more sometimes less.

>> No.51330913

>>51315119
Thank you to everyone who came, sorry for the controller issues, they totally went away after a restart...
>>51316365
Thank you so much, this is so cute! I love it!

>> No.51331232

>>51328813
0-1

>> No.51331296

>>51328813
7 days.

>> No.51331458

>>51328813
5 for between 2 and 6 hours

>> No.51332113

>>51328813
3-4 days a week although last month I pretty much streamed m-f for at least 2-5 hours

>> No.51332174

>>51327874
Berylussy is 10x more pleasurable than Harunus

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Can you use Blender for L2D rigging? I forgot the name of the main one that has a 30-day trial.

>> No.51334361

>>51333496
No, Live2D rigging can only be done with Live2D Cubism

>> No.51334548

>>51333496
You use blender for a different kind of rigging that uses the Unity engine, like how Olga does.

>> No.51335834

>>51333496

You can always try, but you will not succeed at rigging 2D in 3D.

The program you mean is Cubism. ~

Rigging in 3D is basically taking a bunch of pyramids and plonking them onto a 3D model like a digital voodoo doll.

>> No.51337289

>>51334548
Blender is more professional option.
Vroid + Unity is an easier crutch-combo to bake your model.
But if it works it works.

>> No.51338540

3D rigging for vtubing in Blender follows this general pipeline
>(Prerequisite)Create the character model
>Add an armature
>Adjust the armature
>Parent the model to the armature with automatic weights
>Touch up the automatic weights
>Project the base body's weights to the clothes and hair
>Touch those up a bit too
>Join the clothes and hair to the body
Here it's already rigged as per the technical definition, it's just not a functional vtuber model
>Create your keyshapes
>Delete absolutely anything in the scene that's not the model or the armature
>Select your model, then export as VRM
>Open Unity
>Import the UniVRM Unity package
>Import your model onto the scene
>Assign any bones the autoassigner did not recognize and remove any it got wrong from the list
>Look for the blendshape script
>Go through every blendshape
>You will have a list of every keyshape you made in blender
>Turn up the slider of the keyshape that corresponds to the blendshape you selected
>Go to the UniVRM dropdown and export
If you didn't fuck up along the way, you should have a functional vtuber model. This isn't really a guide but more of an overview

>> No.51339156

https://www.twitch.tv/denpafish

get in here denpa is drunk and showing her feet

>> No.51339715
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51339715

>just enjoying my 2view
>i leave for a moment and suddenly my name is green when i return
>wtf I never gave money to vtubers who hacked me?
>i look and it's a gifted membership
>that same guy gifted every single grayname in the live chat
Based or faggot behavior? What does /asp/ think?

>> No.51339851

>>51339715
Based oshi supporter who will give to others instead of himself

>> No.51340037

>>51339715
If he has the means (disposable income) then it's based. I make way more than I need and spoil my oshi with it

>> No.51340044

>>51339156
You said that last time too

>> No.51340096

>>51340044
she actually showed her feet and thighs and now she's taking a shit on stream.
truly this is the kinda peak content /asp/ies need to achieve growth

>> No.51340711

Oh dear, she needs help

>> No.51340821

When did this become the denpa general?

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