/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

literal homo beggar

>>51283814
KEK

Why don't Tempissfags donate?
Even low tier NijiENs like Aia got enough money to pay off her student loans.

>>51283869
They prefer if someone else does it

>>51283869
>student loans
Do americans really?

>>51283726
kek a literal homo beggar

>>51283726
Why the fuck does he want a PS5 anyways?

>>51283726
This nigga was making bank early on then blew it buying his family expensive sushi and shit and by flying his friends out to japan and going to disney with them a bunch of times all which he talked about on stream so it's his own damn fault.

>>51283726
Kill /#/fags. Behead /#/fags. Roundhouse kick a /#/fag into the concrete. Slam dunk a /#/fag baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy /#/fags. Break a /#/fag dick in half. Launch /#/fags into the sun. Stir fry /#/fags in a wok. Toss /#/fags into active volcanoes. Urinate into a /#/fags gas tank. Judo throw /#/fags into a wood chipper. Twist /#/fags heads off. Report /#/fags to INTERPOL. Karate chop /#/fags in half. Curb stomp pregnant /#/fags. Trap /#/fags in quicksand. Crush /#/fags in the trash compactor. Liquefy /#/fags in a vat of acid. Eat /#/fags. Dissect /#/fags. Exterminate /#/fags in the gas chamber. Stomp /#/fags skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate /#/fags in the oven. Lobotomize /#/fags. Mandatory abortions for /#/fags. Grind /#/fags fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown /#/fags in fried chicken grease. Vaporize /#/fags with a ray gun. Kick old /#/fags down the stairs. Feed /#/fags to aligators. Slice /#/fags with a katana.

>>51283726
Didn't read, all i know is that Axel in the OP pic and i'm fucking drenched

>>51283726
tempussies are mistakes

>>51283869
They do. Just look at Bettel.
Axel likely fell off with tempus paypigs since he was heavily trying to insert himself into JP FPS scene.

>>51283952
but that was from /mans/ >>51275940

>>51283726
the Nijification going at full force

Apparently Axel does this all the time.
This is just sad.

>>51283726
what about all of those reddit upvotes & twitter likes?
Why can't he use them to pay his bills?

>>51283869
>>51284012
This also
>Be Axel
>Doing super well in Tempus 1 head to head with Magni
>making bank on subs and supas
>have the genius idea to go to japan with family and spend like 3 months there
>brag about all the shit you're buying and all the expensive places you're taking your family too
>brag about going to disney multiple times with friends etc
>brag about more food and dumb shit you bought
>brag about gambling over shit like soccer world cup
>all while cutting your stream times and streaming at God awful hours for your EN fans
>steam nothing but boring ass zatsus during this time
>start to drop in viewership BAD compared to the rest of the homos
>your viewership tanks even more when Tempus 2 comes out
>you go back to your homeland but your views and donos are now fucked and you spent all your money in japan
>G-guys I need money pls buy merch and voicepacks..
ALL
HIS
FAULT
Axel I know your browse here you retard, learn to save up money.

>>51283957
Calm down Ame. Wait for his stream to end then you can ask for dick.

>>51283869
>>51283878
Most of his fans are underage genderspecials who've never had to work a day in their life

>>51283726
Bro...embarrassing. If we wants sc should have pandered to lonely women.

>>51284012
Axel chased away his yumes/fujos early on and now he's regretting it.
Bettel panders hardcore to his paypigs by chatting with them for hours in his prechat.

>>51283883
They do, and they're weirdly proud of that too.

>>51284128
ex-axelotl and can confirm all these. looks like moving over to bettelions was a good choice

>Holofags parade the integrity of the homos for not pandering to lonely women like Nijihomos
>Their homos are now reduced to begging on stream
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

>implied holo's merch cut is shit too
oh no no no holobronies

>SC isn't important for revenue at all!!!!!!
Fucking hilarious cope split wide open

>>51284012
The rest of them are closer to Axel than Bettel super wise though.

>>51284264
But “Holofags” hate the homos too? The sort of person who posts a screenshot of Mysta being menhera going OHNONONO NIJIBROS also hates the homos and hopes for their graduation.

>>51284128
I admit, I also used to watch Axel but his StarsJP LARP arc filtered me hard so much that I didnt even know he stopped it

>>51284288
>>51284301
Are you pretending to be retarded or?
Aint nobody buying the Homos merch. During the brief period you could get sales data the combined sales of their April Fools “Tempantsu” merch was worse than the sales of Kiaras waterbottle by itself.

>Loved Axel in the TSB era with Selen and Altare
>One of the first things he was bitching about was his monetization
>Thought it was a funny joke
It's not as funny anymore with this new info

>>51283726
POPULAR DEMAND

>>51284288
Physical merch takes money to produce and has a long lead time being made-to-order. They already have access to audio setups so voice packs are literally FREE.99 to produce and make the most direct profit back instantly. Bettel can shit out his monthly tier 3 VP in a single hour on the 30th day, and it sounds good with editing/mixing/effects and his performance. Its ez mode compared to merch.

At least he gets more than 2%

>>51284523
2% of 100 is better than 50% of 0, anon.

>>51283883
Yes sadly. And any kind of idea/bill/law to wipe out student debt and rebuild the system so college is free for all is met with EXTREME opposition.
Its depressing really.

>>51284076
Shit is bad if even sisters don't hide disdain.

To be honest, I think this is stemming from him being financially irresponsible (not counting monetization issues and the fuckton he's spent/spending on covers)
He's mentioned a lot of times how he grew up dirt poor, so I'd imagine he's been going wild on leisure expenses (his Japan trip was definitely not cheap)
Couple this with the fact that he's still really young (one of the youngest in the company currently) and you get the situation of kid with no money gets more extra cash than he's ever seen in just a few months and tries to live the high life for a bit, not realizing he should save up kek

>>51284301
It's not important cause Holos make way more money in merch/sponsors or else you'd see them do constant SC bait like they did back in 2020.
The homos main form of income is from SC since they don't get as many merch/sponsor opportunities or as many people willing to buy their merch.

>>51283897
To play the new FF that's coming out, he has a PS4 but his sister always used it

>>51284562
Will trump fix it?

>>51284353
>But “Holofags” hate the homos too
there are two camps, the ones who hate them and "tempus are stealing nijien's viewers and now nijiniggers are mad at our bros"

>>51284631
Too bad they aren't stealing their superchatters.

>>51284586 (me)
Oh and there's also all the shit he's paid for when it comes to his family, so that adds up too

>>51284590
They do get sponsors, hell, one of them even got Irys sponsor

>>51284695
I’m still livid over that fuck up by management.

>>51284590
Even the red homo with barely 300ccv got a big sponsor, Axel is just retarded and blew all his money while in japan and by releasing constant song covers.

>>51284631
Those people are retarded. Damage to NijiENs numbers came from iLUNA/xSOLEIL and Luxiems fuckups not homos

At least the niji dudes understood for a time they needed female pandering to get paypigs.

>>51284755
>constant song covers
He had a 5-6 month gap with 0 covers.

>>51284613
Did he the first time around?

>>51284755
Most sponsors probably don't want the orange tempiss advertising their shit because he's a brand risk, he can't talk without cursing like a sailor and his go to humour is basically all off colour jokes

>>51283726
He's aussie after all, so might have some less than legal habbits that cost him a lot of money on a daily, or weekend basis.

>>51284695
kek that was a good one

>>51283726
This is kinda cringe, even as someone who doesn't mind watching their streams here and there.
They aren't ever going to make as much as the girls do, its just how it is. Surely they had to know that coming in.

>>51284770
The type of fans that the homos from both branches attract will never admit that they're the issue, it's always someone else's fault.
>Why is Axel complaining about money issues?
It's because Cover failed to promote "the boys" properly and those damn unicorns make it so IRyS/Fauna/Gura won't collab with our unhinged and chaotic males etc.

>>51284805
He said Yatta was in the works since near debut/after debut so he prob had spent a bunch on that since then too, point still stands he made good money from the Tempus hype and he probably figured the cows milk would keep running steadily forever and it didn't, like an anon said he also had this weird phase while in japan where he like larped as a JP Holostar and was doing like JP only zatsus and shit that his main audience doesn't give a shit for.

>>51284867
Axel specifically bitched about not getting as much promotion as NijiEN. Dude thought he was gonna get the Luxiem treatment.

>>51284867
>They aren't ever going to make as much as the girls do
Bettel makes more than most of the girls, dude is entertaining as hell, is consistent, basically the roberu of Tempus
Axel was fine until this>>51284128

>>51284886
>larped as a JP Holostar and was doing like JP only zatsus and shit that his main audience doesn't give a shit for
He still does this, even after he returned to Australia. The man does constant JP only streams, zatsus and collabs. He truly wishes he was StarsJP and his audience is suffering due to it.

>>51283726
>"Do you need funds?"
>I think this is something that we need to talk about
>WE as a whole, I guess

>>51284839
That's true he was my favorite because he seemed like a real brotuber and he was but God damn is he retarded nowadays when I'm browsing YouTube I see a notification from him then check later and VOD is gone, like every single fucking day like fuck 70% of his streams get privated like dude needs to chill cause he's only hurting himself and the heeheehaahaa ain't worth it.

Too good for 'em I say. May the rest of the homos follow him into the hole.

>>51284937
Bettel is the exception that defines the rule and /MANS/ is always bitching about him attracting the Nijisanji audience. The rest of Tempus doesn't get that treatment.

>>51284937
>Superchats only
Yeah, sure. Do you think he sells as much merch as the girls? Voice packs? Views on videos which leads to ad revenue?
I assure you, hes not making more than most of the girls. With the slight possibility he beats some of ID.

>>51284812
Idk, i'm not murican

>>51284937
This is what homobeggars actually think.

>>51285054
SC > all
Cope bitch

>>51284208
>>51284562
As if living in america wasn't already depressing enough holy shit

>>51285054
No, but he's clearly doing very fine.
Keep in mind, hololive grew when girls made one tenth of the amount they do nowadays.

>>51284484
>using a mumei image to make fun of homos
Cringe. Remember your place, Hoomans.

>>51285054
There's never been a situation where high SC didn't correlate with high merch sales.
There's two types of viewers. People who are willing to put down a few bucks at most per day on average, and people willing to put hundreds of dollars a day down on average. A single of the latter is both common enough to build an audience of them, and worth several hundred of the former.
Problem is that Hololive and vtubing lost the paypigs period. They can't pander to them even if they wanted to; they left.
If any new vtuber org manages to recapture that crowd, that org will spike just as hard as Hololive did in this new playing field where people forgot that paypigs do exist

>>51285054
The top earning girls? no, but considering the amount of paypigs he has, he is definitely beating the stragglers like Luna and Mel

>>51285183
Oh how wrong you are retard.
But you know, cope/seethe/etc.

>>51284987
So he's the zaion of stars but more dangerous? Wow nijien would have fired him already

>>51285006
I see shit like this often
I get hating male collabs, Star's formation, etc
But why the hell are there people who genuinely wish harm on some entertainers making some money
These are just some dumbasses on the internet, not wanted criminals
Feels weird to see genuine wish for people to lose their already small livelihood over a form of entertainment

>>51285221
I never said he wasn't doing fine. Look at that chart, obviously the man is doing fine.
Hes just not making as much as most of the girls. Literally all I said.

>>51283958
Feeling tough yet, boy?

>>51285305
Zaion did nothing wrong though shes my cute wife, Axel however did.

>>51285371
And yet he's immune. It's amazing.

He simply fails as a content creator. It's already a hard filter for eops to watch jp streams but he still went to collab with a bunch of literally who jp indies. His english content is mediocre, the guy literally forgot he is holoen not holojp.

>>51285443
This is the sad truth really.

>>51284937
He's the only one who gets decent SCs in tempus. With his debut hype slowly dying off and his birthday celebrated his numbers have begun to drop and most likely his SCs will too. Most of the other homos are in a grim state

>>51285314
And that's just the lighter of them skizzies. Some wish for their genuine death.

That's how twisted their egos are.

>>51283726
As a guy who watched his stream. This was honestly inevitable. Dude spends a fuckton on his monthly covers and occasionally splurges to his family. Guy needs to learn how to save money like the rest of his genmates. I genuinely think he's just bad with money.

>>51284217
This but to Shinri. Dad works hard and I appreciate him.

>>51285509
>>51284586
Seems these two stories track
Dumbass just needs to learn how to spend wisely kek

>>51285509
>monthly
Why do you keep saying this when it just isn’t true?
In approaching 10 months he’s done 6 covers.

>>51285473
It's a trap that a lot of international holo members fall into. You can just look at other hologirls and the runts are always the one who are multilingual and tries to do 2 languages. It is a hard filter for any viewer.

>By popular demand.
Can’t stop keking, won’t stop keking.

>>51285281
RORU RUMAO
You absolute fucking retard.
Fucking Roboco can pay for to build a house in Tolyo.

>>51285322
Fair point, but the boys were never supposed to do as well as the girls. The expectations was being half as good as jp holostars and they beat that.
>>51285371
Nijisanji would've not hired most of the stars and if they did they would've fired them for having to much of western mindset.

>>51285281
Quiet being delusional anon

>>51285578
Honesy kinda sad, I've always personally found the sudden language swaps to be really entertaining

>>51285314
If he had started with a strict no collabs with holo girls policy, he wouldn't get a fraction of the hate
once you mess with literally hundreds of mens actively desired and singular means of combating loneliness, you get problems coming your way.
If I caught my wife cheating on me, I'd the guy without a doubt first and foremost without a second thought, and only afterwards would I murder suicide her and myself. It's the rational extension.

>>51285624
>Fair point...
Listen, you seem like a decent anon so Im trying my best not to sperg out at you but...follow the posts.
You are essentially saying the same thing I said right in the beginning.

>>51285621
>Fucking Roboco can pay for to build a house in Tolyo.
Bettel lives in a house in New York, which has a higher cost of living than Tokyo by decent margin

>>51285576
He spent the last three months in Japan complaining that the stuff there wasn't up-to-standard for his taste so he spent his paycheck money on doing fun shit in Japan.

Seems he set his money aside for the Kick Back cover last month and now he's screwed for this month, guy believes he's disappointing his fans by missing his monthly covers when really his fans don't fucking mind. He's been spreading himself thin too with Uni, and family bullshit that it's already cutting into a significant part of his margins. Eventually he may have to stop doing Covers at all.

>>51284128
also he talks on and on about his experiences with women (not necessarily sexual or romantic but enough to scare yumes off and turn off fujos)
but he also can not build up a strong straightbro fanbase like vesper because axel is too sporty and not very relatable for most chuuba watchers
so he's just kinda stuck

Anons will forget about this tommorrow.

>>51283726
>Popular demand
So that was a fucking lie.

>>51285717
So he didn’t spend his money on “monthly covers”. He spent it on going to Disneyland JP and eating expensive sushi.

>>51285691
I would've agreed with you if your wife was actually your wife and not a Vtuber pretending to be one for the experience.

>>51284547
is this the new cope?

>>51285706
Sorry I am actually at work right now.
Thanks for not sperging out on me.

>>51285737
What, you don’t want to hear your bro whisper in your ear in members only?

>>51285760
Yes that's part of it but I'm not wrong when I said he also spent a fuckton on the covers. He even said it himself. Combine that with his money wasting habits and you'll find a man who'll go broke eventually

>>51285737
Nah the fujos remained. I can say that for sure.

>>51285804
If it wasn't true he wouldn't be begging for money on stream.

>>51283726
>Mori's viewership in the shitter
>Ame's viewership in the shitter
>Tempiss literally panhandling because they're making no money
God Im so erect. Didn't think unicornchads would win THIS hard.

>>51285737
>Altare is now the guy who openly talks about his ex-girlfriends and simps over every digital woman he sees
>Still has the most yumes and fujos under Bettel
What did he do right in this regard that Axel didn’t?

I thought he, Regis, and Magni were selling the most merch in tempiss and Vesper was the merch runt?

>>51285894
>Fauna friend yab
>Ina imploding due to coomers
>Gura dead
>Kiara
Yeah you're winning alright.

>>51285860
i don't keep up with him anymore, maybe you're right. but he seems very "aggressively heterosexual" for the lack of a better term, how do fujos cope?

>>51285918
Unlike Axel. Altare doesn't go "dick and Balls" is what I would say. Because it's the only outlier.

>>51285918
fujobait
He's literally said he's straight on stream but still fujobaits, and they eat it up

>>51283726
Axel sucks

>>51285918
There's nothing wrong with a key that opens many doors.
A door that can be open by many keys on the other hands...

If you can't afford a PS5 while leeching off the Hololive brand as the slum rejects tangentially related to it, just end the branch. There's no excuse.

>>51285947
Idk, Bettel is also one of the 3 hets in Tempus but he attracts yumes and Fujos like flies

>>51285937
They still do. Axel's just an idiot with money and ended up spending most of it that he's now begging. I'd say he'd learn his lesson but he probably wouldn't.

>>51285944
>Fauna viewership queen
>Gura so rich she can do anything
>Kiara consistently top 10 superchat earner
>Ina: tempiss cocksleeve
Go watch more clips to "support" tempiss. Homibeggar

>>51285944
Everybody can leave and do gangbusters. You'd be stuck with the homos and the rest of us can follow them as indies.

>>51285478
This. The dude definitely got a bunch of scs very fast but he's now the only one gaining anything with the first 4 faggots slowing down considerably less than a year after debut and his genmates not even reaching half of what he got during the same period. And the biggest problem with them right now is how they're not growing their audience so it will reach a moment when they won't be able to depend on the few whales they currently have.

>>51285918
altare has a soft sad boy thing going on that makes women go "i can fix him"
axel comes off as way too flirty, like a womanizer

>>51285985
I think it's because he's less crass
The fujos stick around for their uwu softboys who never mention any deep shit involving women, whereas Axel is talking about cosplayer ass every other stream

>>51286018
Magni is following behind though. He's regaining his usual 2k audience lately and he's getting back in the groove.

>>51285937
It’s Bettel > Vesper > Altare > Magni > Shinri > Hakka > Flayon > Axel

>>51285944

>>51284613
People like Trump are the reason that things like college loans and medical debt continue to exist. The philosophy of the USA is "fuck you, got mine."

>>51286010
>Fauna viewership queen
Yeah of indies maybe lmao, learn your place EN shitter, without Gura there to fluff things up the branch is heading into HoloID tier with no breaks.

>>51285985
Magni is also a straight grifting as bi for that juicy internet points.

>>51286056
shouldn't Shinri be lower than Flayon and Axel higher than Hakka?

>>51286038
I wonder why. I thought he's declining because of some of his breaks and not delivering his juicy bits. 1.5 of him is a recent thing and Copium isn't exactly a good orisong.

>>51286152
Unironically, no. I'm pretty sure anon got it right.

>>51283726
Kek what a FLOP

>>51283878
Bless this person's heart but come on. No one in their right mind would buy fanmade merch from a fucking homostar

>>51286056
I guess. last time i looked at merch sales was the 6 month anniversary and Fes and Vesper was always the last one to sell out

what happened to nijisanji this time?

>>51286191
Sonic Heroes cringe kino during prime time>>>>> Apex stream #22 at 3 am

>>51283869
its more of the fact that hes bad with money. Like im not even kidding the dude keeps spending which made him turn out this way, he should learn that money doesn't grow on trees

>>51286216
tempiss, nijien, all the same

>>51283958
and you can do better?

>>51286038
>Magni is following behind though. He's regaining his usual 2k audience lately and he's getting back in the groove.
While it is true that his numbers are improving, he is bouncing back up from his CAREER ALL TIME LOW
>pic related

His average actually grazed the 1k line, he was almost with an average on 3 views.
Right now he is still below his previous his career low, which he touched in the end of March when he briefly dipped below the 2k line.

>>51283726

>voice packs, superchats and memberships all before physical merch

i thought merch was the absolute king. different contracts from the girls?

>>51285691
>pixels on the screen
>wife
>rational

>>51284128
Was he the tempus that got high and went to japan for no reason and had a mental episode there

>>51286239
>>51286218
Kek, even faggots from /MANS/ are joining in on dogpiling Axel for being a retard who can't manage his own spending

>>51286275
To add to that, his "unrecline" is likely due to a series of collabs, special events and his 10k stream.
Usually these mask the numbers and it is followed by a sharp drop when they fall out of the range of the chart, like in several occasions for Magni himself.

>>51286296
No that's Vesper.
It was part of his Yabba dabba doo arc

>>51286038
He still struggles on overlaps and outside of him, Vesper and Bettel all the other homos are competing to see who gets a sub-300 ccv stream first. Their box was completely annihilated after the second batch debuted, and I'm honestly questioning if clown's scs are enough to justify this baffling decision. Remember that Tempus 1 was supposed to have both him and Flygon, so they could've had this same scenario much earlier without having to 2 StarsEN gens in quick succession pissing off a good portion of their Hololive tourists who just are waiting since forever for an EN3.

>>51286096
>coming to a thread shitting on the homos to shit on a HoloEN
So the last samurais were actually larping beggars? Who would've thought.

>>51286336
tbf his model was a huge debuff

>>51286239
Also remember almost every single holo in the company starts streaming with their previous job in tact, only dropping it once they've established steady income and fanbase. Mori, despite her fuckload of supers and song streams, was still an English teacher 4 months into holo. Axel doesnt work, iirc he's actually still paying for Uni

>>51286279
Axel doesn’t get much people buying his merch. Merch is king if you can actually sell the damn things.
Voice packs are pretty much pure profit so it’s better for small vtubers to sell those since there’s no production cost.

>>51286314
What did you think? That /MANS/ is a hugbox like all the others? They know when someone fucks up, look at Vesper.

>>51286275
I can imagine, the dude was unhappy with his model that now he got a 1.5, his mood improved and now he's getting his creative juices back into it.

I can theorize that if Vesper gets his 2.0, he's no longer gonna yabba dabba doo.

>>51286279
EN homos will probably get the same standard merch treatment the JP dudes have so that will naturally reduce their merch sales cut since the cost of production for it is paid by Cover.

>>51286413
Dyrbi?

>>51286449
>Dyrbi?
No but it'd be funny.

>>51286378
Its still most definitely a hugbox.
Any kind of criticism that isnt flavor of the day is met with hostility. Nice try sister.

>>51286378
So homos really do like to suck themselves off.

>>51285956
So he's a male bae

>>51286506
Actually, yeah, that sounds about right when it comes to the baiting kek

>>51286481
>he thinks a general filled with women is a hugbox
You clearly never spoke to one

I don't care enough to watch clips but, shit, that's disgusting if true

>>51286361
Nah, that's the thing, check his chart again at >>51286275
He traded what looked like it would be a stable post debut buff 3k average (his point up until the end of July) for a short term buff with a GRAND TOUR of collabs with Hololive.
It buffed him alright, that's his peak in October, but if you notice his numbers trajectory, they never recovered.

If it was just his model he wouldn't have a September that good, he would just keep on reclining. But he traded stability and long term growth for a short buff and it definitely didn't pay out for him.

>>51286413
>Vesper gets a 2.0
>actually looks good
>stars YABBA DABBA maxing
I'd laugh my ass off to be honest

>>51286537
>Didnt have any sort of actual comeback
You could've just not replied retard.

>>51285184
Well the corporate for profit colleges don't want to stop piling up the money milked out of a populous brainwashed that they need to sell themselves into debt slavery for a degree they won't use.
Doesn't help that you have the cult of sport which is usually a money black hole unless you're a top 1% of 1% school that further drives up college costs (and lines the NCAA's pockets)

>>51286576
Just say you didn't get my point

>>51283726
Ina deflection thread.
Pretty pathetic.

>>51286361
>model was a huge debuff
dude he was getting 2-3k ccv regularly last year. the 2 homos with the worst models were the top performers of their gen (still are) its not a model debuff its a content debuff

>>51286605
Ina's isn't even a yab and neither is Axel's. No one out of /here/ even gives a fuck either.

>>51286605
As always beggars are Hololive's biggest antis.

>>51286350
Just because he has a literal mental illness and went to another country without meds

>>51286634
We already know that halo fans HATE video games and they HATE watching people play video games.

>>51286634
Because they are very good. They would've done even better with better models.
My point is, now that Magni has his model fixed, I don't see him actually dropping to 3view category anymore.

>>51286638
This is the most accurate post ITT

>>51286681
The Big Three: Bettel, Magni and Vesper...

>>51286506
>could be BFE but plays the retarded 12 year old little brother role instead
…Yeah

>>51286715
you think the guy who hangs around girls but never has a girlfriend would be good at BFE?

>>51283869
They don’t have enough of an emotional attachment to their oshi to support them. That, or they’re all underaged clip watchers.

>>51285918
he fujobaits with everyone, even did it with Vesper at the beginning though idk if Vesper was either playing along or if he was retarded and actually didnt get what was happening.

>>51286638
I think is also how /vt/ waits for the tiniest hiccup of a vtuber and runs with it as far as they can. Like the Ina situation was nothing but they were so many threads about it lol I assume this is a similar case, especially since they really hate the guys

>>51286766
You know Vesper is a legitimate homosexual, right? He knew exactly what was happening.

>>51286679
>Holo
It's sisters who are watching them, not Holofans, and it's been proven time and time again that they do not care about game streams. Just look at all the NijiEN manwhores and how low their views are on gaming streams compared to literally everything else. Even Vesper who used to be the actual gamer of the bunch is now getting less viewers on average when playing almost everything that isn't Project Zomboid.

>>51284128
Don't use Mel for this.

>>51286795
I know he's gay I just also know he's stupid too kek

>>51286819
nah, Halo is pretty fucking boring, I don't know how anyone can stand watching a FPS stream that isn't with friends and Regis fucking sucks at Halo.

>>51286481
"THEY AREN'T CONSTANTLY SHITTING ON THIS HOMOS FOR EXISTING, WHAT A FUCKING HUGBOX"

>>51286634
Honestly feels like a lot of them just gave up, especially magni. He was shitting out kino like his judge magni bit and magmo. He was smart enough to not run them into the ground but he didn't let them peak either and then just sort of started coasting. Also seems the worms tournament and maybe even the kiara, "I'LL JOIN NEXT TIME WITH GIRLS ONLY" really killed their momentum with everyone just dropping them. Baffling to think there was a group of people watching them that sperged out when they got too close to holo girls and turned into rabid antis but it seems like it did happen.

Vesper menhera arc killing off a ton of collabs like zombiod season 3 with rpr and apparently some nijis also killed a fuck ton of momentum they all had.

>>51284562
>wipe out a trillion dollars of debt
>crash the entire world‘s economy
Great idea

>>51283869
Tempus fans are probably the most generous fans i've seen.
They're always gifting subs to other viewers.

>>51286908
>>51284208
shit you are right...maybe Axel should ask for money for that too kek

>>51286853
shut up Halo is Kino, but you're right that Altare wasnt into it and brought the stream down. Bettel/mag Halo 2 would sick since they're both halo nerds

>>51286947
Australian laws and American laws are different no?

>>51286819
It's very well known here that even male fans hate watching gaming streams unless if its FOTM.

>>51286908
This isn't /pol/, but just know you are very incorrect, and are really, really stupid.

>>51283726

>>51286853
I swore "Halo" was a typo because nobody mentioned the game before and it didn't make sense to single out that game in particular.

>>51286982
They tend to be much more willing to watch gaming steams than female viewers tho. LuxNox viewership fucking plummets when they're playing anything solo, and the same thing is observed with Tempus.

>>51287035
remember there is 75% chance you're talking to a SEAman

>>51286853
Halo is amazing. The problem is that there are too many zoomers in holopro.

>>51286982
>unless it’s FOTM
Hm? I’d watch my oshi play 2000+ hours of Kenshi if she is having fun, even if not (although I’d prefer she did enjoy it). I am also likely autistic as fuck, though.

People too retarded to get scholarships deserve to get ripped off.

>>51287059
Im sure its taken out of context, but...
ISREAL

>>51286869
VG dropping before EN3 soured a ton of fans along with their retarded reddit mod shutting down their forum for 24 hours (the sub now has somewhat of an anti-Tempus vibe with the exception being Vesper). Vespers menhera arc killed their image of unity that they worked hard to prop up.

>>51287168
To this day I don't know why they didn't just debut Tempus as six guys instead of four. Gavis Bettel would've been the money maker that YAGOO wanted what with the hype and all that.

>>51285314
they can always just get a real job, instead of leeching on the culture the girls built by themselves.

they are trying to profit over the destruction of a culture built over many years by the GIRLS. that fact that they are doing it makes them disgusting people already.

they deserve every piece of hate they get.

>>51287168
I'm tired of this """EN3""" bitching
We all know they're fucking writing off myth and council.
Ina and Fauna nuked a lot of good will with their autism.
Retarded unicorns cant stop seething about Kronii and Calli.
Shit bathers are still butt hurt about Ame telling them to stop bathing in shit.
Mumei is Mumei.
Bae is Bae.
Irys is just a sad raging /u/nigger.
Kiara is screaming me me me me in her corner.
Gura is fucking Gura. Imagine having so many subscribers and never streaming. I watch 1 views who have better discipline than her.

>>51287232
Who's the 6th? Personally I feel like HQ+Bettel would've been all they ever would have needed. They'd done just fine on their own.

>>51287261
Why is everything leeching to you fucks

>>51286378
/Mans/ sisters were the ones who anti him the most during the Japan arc

>>51287310
Nta but it's Flayon, with Hakka and Shinri being the later hires

>>51287327
They beg for collabs all the time, then complain that the collab is leeching.
There's no understanding collab beggars.

>>51287304
>I watch 1views
I can tell. Good news is, EN won’t dismantle over fags like yourself.

>>51286378
are you blind? the sisters over there are still seething about him. he's the only homo you can talk shit about over there and no one cares kek

>>51287304
A tale as old as time >>51286662

>>51287304
>writing off myth and council
Yes.

>>51287336
And rightfully so. He missed the 6-month anniversary

>>51287600
I don't beg for collabs and neither should you.
Solo content is the best.

>>51287662
tbf, this is a fucking pre-planned anniv collan, not "hey can you collab with this random woman" kinda shit

>>51287662
I would agree if it wasn't an anniversary for your gen.

>>51287327
do you think these faggots would be anything, even a 2view, without hololive?

and what do they give in return? dick jokes, trannys, bad covers/original songs.

hows that not leeching?

>>51286010
>Ina
>Tempiss
Chumtroon no need to be upset over losing the myth slot to Ina, maybe your pedobait would do better if she actually streamed paypig.

>>51287304
Mumei, Bae, Kiara, Fauna and Mori at least stream with a good deal of consistency. Same with IRyS save for her breaks, and she was just meant to be a Vsinger.
Yeah there’s outliers like Gura, but the fact is that there were way more people waiting for EN3 than VG. I don’t think even Tempus fans wanted VG this quick, and even HoloEN in its neutered state still makes a lot of money.

>>51287380
how retarded are you to think collabbeggars and tempiss haters are the same?

>>51287948
I think it's not that Tempus fans didn't want VG, they just didn't expect it to happen.

>>51287662
>he's the only top tempus without collabs or events unlike magni and bettel who always stream their POV
you damn right

>>51287925
A good few of them already were big before Holo, retard
Also, all your complaints there are subjective (orisongs and covers) or were already there prior (dick jokes have existed since forever nor are they bad, and there's a lot of lame twitter troobs from myth and council's fanbases that make up a sizeable portion of the fambase)

>>51287304
>Tempiss sister
>Holoanti

>>51286413
Vesper, Magni, and Altare all hate their models, which is a shame - but Magni and Altare's artists can do better, so it's understandable. Vesper likely wants a whole new mama.

>>51288139
>Calling out the fan base for being fair weather
>Bad

>>51287987
Everyone rolled out the red carpet for HQ but VG came around like a wet fart.

>>51286977
Australia has HECS. Basically you borrow from the government, it goes up at the same rate as inflation and you don’t pay until you’re earning 42k at which point they take a percent directly from your wages. This is only for citizens/permanent resident though, international students pay the full fee which is why it’s our third biggest export.

all the membership money? what happen?

>>51288047
Literally the only one you could argue was even kind of big was Magni and he did prerecorded edited content not streams.

>>51288299
the best explanation >>51284128

>>51288314
>argue
not even an argument its a fact that Magni was the only big one

>>51283726
Honestly it's kinda sad how these guys fucked their entire careers up in less than a year, extremely alienating fanbase with a niche audience to begin with that wants everyone to worship them like the girls. Extremely petty and catty, irresponsible with money and professional responsibilities, and just downright boring and creatively bankrupt. Karma's a bitch.

>>51288314
Vesper, Shinri, and Altare all were around or above 3view, and Bettel also did pre-recorded shit which had decent numbers
Also, NotMagni has streamed a good few times, and his numbers are pretty good then too

>>51288047
still, all they bring in is shit, while taking away what made hololive special, sabotaging them

>>51288548
I don't know where you get your "sabotage" but hololive has been doing fine since they debuted, I don't know what you're on about

>>51288415
not exactly karma if they didn't do anything to (You) anon

>>51288416
Being pretty generous with the 3view label there. And Magni before Magni was stuck around like 300 at best.

>>51288748
>zatsu spam
>zomboid
>bike autism
Wow he didn't change anything

>>51286869
>Baffling to think there was a group of people watching them that sperged out when they got too close to holo girls and turned into rabid antis
Yeah me but without the rabid anti part, uncle nowa was for the boomers and I liked him until he got baited by/revealed himself as someone who liked provoking the retard greynames who are better off ignored. That and the menhera arc destroyed his image for me.
Not sure what the Ame "unity" collab arc achieved apart from mixing two audiences who wanted fundamentally different things in a forced way and provoking the schizos so much that both Ame and Kronii had minor meltdowns dealing with them and Altare caught some flak for that too - boomer vs zoomer was actually fun and felt like a unique idea worth a one off stream. More stuff like that and never doing the big group collabs like dbd/astroneer and there would have been a lot less seethe.

All that is beside the point though because then they debuted 4 more homos at a period when everyone was desperate for more girls and obliterated any remaining goodwill with the hololive fanbase. Now they are splitting the sisters 8 ways and I don't see that changing.

>>51283726
>begs for money to buy a ps5
>then once no one sends superchat he starts saying that VP are the best way to support
>say that actually merch aren't so bad
>even SC aren't so bad
>you know what, please I want a lot of membership
So basically anything is good as long as sisters give him some money?
And Cover / EN management must be super lenient with the guy(s) if they allowed this kind of behavior

>>51288837
The ps5 thing is just an extension of holopro's weird ass relationship with square enix and their permissions autism.

>>51287304
The absolute fucking state of beggars.

>>51288548
Counter, they bring in some great artists and such, with some I know getting into drawing/animatin main Hololive after watching the boys (contrary to /here/ belief, most sisters like the girls and aren't retarded antis)

>>51287035
>>51287077
NTA but don’t blame society for the fact that you got a shitty major in an irrelevant private school with shit financial aid

>waaaa i can't afford a ps5 waaaa
The absolute fucking entitlement jesas

>>51287948
The majority of HoloEN streams more than the JP average. The lazy cope always came from retards who think HoloEN should be capable of filling multiple timeslot like JP does with 3.5x less members.

>>51288919
Share some examples

>>51288607
hololive is not nearly as united, projects like myth songs and smolmyth just dont happen
they are all separated into cliques, whose fan bases constantly attack each other in every piece of the internet.
and thats not even mentioning the very significant numbers decline, that is affecting the girls closer to homos the most.
internet discussions went from shipping and being exited at every new collab and quirky thingy to stars clique vs unicorn clique.

but maybe as a professional clip watcher you didnt realise any of that was happening.

>>51289167
So true sister

>>51286018
what period of time do these SCs cover? they don't look like numbers to whine about, even if they're making like 30% of that.

>Shit on Nijisanji for 2% saying Holo talents take a bunch more of money
>It's 3%
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK NONONONO NOT LIKE THIS FELLOW HOLOBRONIES

>>51285918
He made the mistake of flirting live with his "manechan" and that's after the initial months of simping for Nodoka who weirdly left the limelight after their it

Altroon just boasts about his exes, never flirted with a girl live. The indog kusogaki doesn't count because they're larping as siblings

>>51289454
>"Fellow" Holobronies
Nice bait faggot

>>51288139
Happens more often than you'd think, even though holoen sacrificed a lot for them

>>51289167
They're not event clip watchers, but twitter likers/reddit upvoters. If they actually watched them the clips from the homos' solo streams/homo-only collabs wouldn't perform so much worse than those from their collabs with Holomem.

>>51289430
It's lifetime.

>>51287927
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

>>51289454
Someone post the Nijisanji Brony collage

>>51289167
>hololive is not nearly united
If you're talking full unity, they are. They don't show it but they're not exactly hostile with each other.
>myth songs and smolmyth just don't happen
Yeah because HoloEN used to be a single generation before Council debuted.
>They are all separated into cliques
Like OKFAMS, SNOT, WARS, Manyred and HoloTori? Those aren't cliques those are get-together groups, don't mistake Holo for Nijisanji.
>Numbers decline
COVID's done. This is only apparent in EN. There's no change in ID and JP.
>Affecting girls closer to homos the most
??? Mori fucking sucks dude this is already common knowledge. Kiara isn't even pro-homo and her CCV is borders 3view so much that Ame streams higher than her and she's in the same range as Mori. Kronii is a high 4view like Mumei and Fauna and Bae is an in-between. Ina sits prettily in the middle and IRyS well... IRyS is doing okay. You're grasping at straws.
>internet discussions
irrelevant, what happens /here/ does not affect what happens out there. This is an echochamber.
>maybe as a professional clip watcher you didnt realise any of that was happening
I watch whoever streams good content. You clearly don't watch streams at all.

>>51287948
>Mumei, Bae, Kiara, Fauna and Mori at least stream with a good deal of consistency
So fucking what? Why all the autism over the number of streams, when the problem is that none of those streams are entertaining? They're all dull as dishwater, I have no incentive to be bored watching a girl meander around Minecraft baiting suckers for free money

>>51283883
you underestimate how bad Americans are with money. Why do you think these 20-30 somethings want the tax payers to pay off their stupid decision to get a degree in studying lghdtvs

>>51289843
If the girls are dull then the homos are an absolute void.

>>51284937
so when is he going to compete with BTS. We can lower the bar to Luxiem. Fuck it, when is any one of the other homos catching up?

>>51284128
That is sad, he had a decent Andrew Tate bro gig going on.

>>51290174
he has a pretty model which gives him the fujo appeal of Bettel/Altare but he has the bro personality of Vesper which causes his audience to be skewed and he cant find his niche.

To me I think he should use his bilingualism and make a japanese teaching series for his viewers which could bring a lot of curious tourists to him.
Also going back to visual novels would be good for him since those streams were some of his best.

>>51290381
Fully agreed on this

>>51289587
>twitter "meme"
You have to go back.

>>51285691
God I hope you never successfully trick a woman into marrying you.

>>51284937
>still using the february(his birthday btw) chart

>>51290806
His birthday was in May.
February was a month some paypigs decided to throw lots of money at him.
Fun fact. He earned more during February than during his birthday month.

>>51284937
this is like if vespies still used the $15k he got for his monetization kek. this will probably age pretty badly a year from now

>>51287304
>Gura is fucking Gura
hot

>>51291569
>you now remember beggers pounding their chests and claiming that 7k viewers was his floor

>>51283726
Don't click on link, he's running two ads on it

>>51291873
You don't have adblockers?

>>51291940
I have in my pc, i'm using phone rn

>>51287304
>Mumei is Mumei
what did he mean by this?

>>51284850
I don't know how you can blow up all your money going from australia to Japan. It's literally way cheaper than doing this from france to japan...

>>51285792
>>51286293
We here at Hololive don't want you, sorry for the disappointment but you can leave now, normalfags

>>51287304
>Irys is just a sad raging /u/nigger.
Anon, IRyS hates yuri

>>51285737
>but he also can not build up a strong straightbro fanbase like vesper
That shit is gone, most of then went away after the suspension and all the shit that unfolded afterwards. Not to mention he's one of the biggest fags, the Vesper you may have seen in his first month is long gone

>>51283814
Homo-beggar kek

>>51285509
Dude doesn't even plan his streams. He's not a bad guy and to his credit, he does make music pretty consistently, but he's genuinely a dumbass.

>>51284594
he should tell his sister to become a holo

>>51285918
Axel is vulgar, to put it kindly and that shit backfires on him. He's too much of a dudebro.

>>51283726
so why were you watching tempus again?

>>51292236
I still wonder how the guys ended up being more menhera than women.

>>51284128
Axel was my tempus oshi at start and then he streamed less, when he streamed it was zatsus and apex, he didn't focus on music anymore, his zatsu topics became repetitive and I was sick of the constant dick n balls stuff. VG rolled in and I found a new oshi.

>>51289587
who said this

>>51284128
I thought Axel was suppose to be good with money. That's literally what they all said in the first week of Tempus' debut.

>>51292458
Wtf tempiss lied?? Nonono sisters this can't be happening my boys can't be liars this isn't true sisters

>>51284397
>StarsJP LARP
what mean

>>51286795
Vesper is actually gay? Wait does this mean he is only a wizard if you don't count homosex? STOLEN VALOR I TRUSTED HIM

>>51292390
Because vtubers were never about entertainment. It was always either menheras who knew it was about parasocial shit, brainwashed troons, or people with enough literal unironic sociopathy to be able to watch vtubers for entertainment.
Tempus went into it deluding themselves that the for entertainment crowd was real and it blew up in their faces. The result is menhera.

>>51292870
>stolen valor
Didn’t know that could happen in this caae. The more you know, I guess.
t. Actual Wizard

>>51283726
yeah Axel graduation arc is here.

>>51292905
This is one of the weirdest rrats I've evef seen

>>51293028
>people spouted rrats about altare (a.k.a. okega), magni, or vesper planning to graduate
>it was actually axel that will not renew his contract

>>51292870
dunno if gay is the right word. all i know is that he really likes dick whether its femboys/futas/men probably bi like Magni

>>51283878
This already got meoryholed

>>51292586
Consistently streaming in JP as if he was a JP member instead of EN

>>51293479
Yeah, because “anons” framed this situation as an attack on the artist.

>>51293028
im glad he's finally finishing up his uni courses proud of the retarded dingo

>>51292458
>Be good with money
>Win lottery
>End up broke six months later because it all went to their head
A tale as old as time.
>>51284128
Funniest part is he went from the high flyer lifestyle to begging for a ps5. That machine would've been chump change a few months ago but he had to be a financial retard instead. Like all lotto winners he made the retard mistake of thinking the money hose has no limits.

>>51284128
I hope he gets suspended for this.

He should do another stream where his chat pays him 50 bucks to take a shot, seems he already wasted all the cash for his last one.

>>51292390
Because vtubing is reversed streaming, if in streaming we have twitch thots and funny guys, in vtubing we have funny girls and faggots...
It's that simple

>>51285966
yeah, my clit

>>51293095
This is one of the ESL posts I've ever seen
SEA "people" watch vtubers like cucks, for entertainment; the rest of the world can't relate

>>51286869
I will never support your fags or give another Tempus member the benefit of the doubt after the retards at cover debuted 4 more days before an en3. There is no goodwill left.

every day I peek into this thread and I see the same timeloop all over again, why don't your guys just watch JP, it's not like EN is some super entertaining group or anything

>>51294371
4 more fags*

>>51294287
What.

>Be me
>Break toe
>Tell myself I'll treat myself to a ps5 now instead of three weeks time to feel better
>See this entitled whinging cunt want a ps5
>Decide to man the fuck up and just wait like a man should
Thank you based axel for reminding me I'm not some dumb kid any more and giving me the motivation to be a better person with my money.

>>51288416
NotMagni streamed the other day to 200 viewers. Shitter tier entertainer propped up by Hololive. Neck yourself homobegging Whore.

>>51294662
Made you care enough to whine.

>>51283726
What he deserves for trying to appeal his dick instead of his fans kek
literally just stop doing jp streams and avoid jp chubas/streamers, their fans dont give a shit about him

>>51294662
that's over 195 more than the majority of people. And doesn't he usually do premade vids anyway?

>>51294662
NTA but isn't nearly everyone in Holo propped by Holo?
A good few of them were low ccv shitters prior to joining or weren't even in the industry, so pushing this vendetta against specifically the guys when this applies to a lot of the girls as well is just retarded

>>51283726
wouldn't be the first time, i guess all the money they were making at the start didn't last huh

>>51295141 (me)
Also didn't the original anon say "around or above 3 view"
Don't know about you, but 200 to me seems to be 3 whole numbers, so....

>>51285624
this is such massive cope and it never ceases to amaze me, just because yagoo said it doesn't make it true, there is no way they would invest that much time and energy into a branch that they expected to do so poorly, they absolutely wanted tempus to compete with luxium and you're retarded if you think anything else

>>51284217
>>51285546
ayy fellow ex-axelotls same but just went back to my og oshi

>>51295457
Facts. Only a blithering retard would think that the group they’ve now wasted over a year on only had the expectation of being half as good as the failed JP Holostars. That’s pure cope. It was always about competing with Luxiem, and getting a piece of the pie in EN.

>>51295457
It’s basically just something they tell the homos so they don’t feel pressured as fuck. They said management told them they were only expected to be at the 200ccv range.
I do think they didn’t expect Myth to blow up because they had fuck all for support staff for their first year meanwhile Tempus had staff at the ready doing everything possible to support them.

Why is he saying merch is the worst way to support them? By the way he is talking it sounds like they get the most money out of superchats and memberships and the least money from merch.

>>51284562
College is never free lmao, here in Europe they garnish your wages until you paid off your "free" higher education