/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

bots

>>51182769
Nah you cant use that argument considering she is already a veteran at streaming and knows how popular she is
This is just another case of her prioritizing her own needs over the others

>>51182769
which is also why it would have been more logical for her to take a break and set up another stream afterwards while telling the people there to check out the event while she's offline

>>51182773
>No tits in OP
Oof the decline

>>51182866
>This is just another case of her prioritizing her own needs over the others
I agree. Hopefully this is a satisfactory conclusion for this intellectual debate

>homos getting 2.0 in less than a year
Fucking joke of a company

Hitmoi Chris getting a 4.0, wonder why they never did that for Gura. Management really have favorites and they are always the worst performers

>>51182966
Yeah. Its not that hard to see that Pekora is a greedy streamer and rarely does anything for the benefit of others

>EN busy with Connect the World
>can still find the time to have a higher streaming median than JP on average
>Gen 5 busy with gen 5 concert
>don't stream
But sure EN are the lazy ones, right?

>>51182939
You got bloomers tho!

>>51182705
it would be a waste of money, she doesn't stream

>>51182969
Every time I start warming back up to Cover, they remind me why I can't.

>>51182993
Ah speaking of Hitomi I wonder if she actually did become a radio dj/announcer and if she is still one

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>94,286: Lui (Hololive)
>64,158: VSPO (VSPO)
>52,547: Pekora (Hololive)
>46,837: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>39,542: Aqua (Hololive)
>29,286: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,160: Shion (Hololive)
>21,926: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>20,110: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>19,768: Nui (Nijisanji)
>19,039: Lize (Nijisanji)
>18,157: Mio (Hololive)
>17,080: Miko (Hololive)
>16,844: Met (VSPO)
>15,802: Chiroru (Indie)
>15,624: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,017: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,314: Zotto (Nijisanji)
>13,812: Ange (Nijisanji)
>12,847: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,791: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,791: Hinano (VSPO)
>12,675: Nene (Hololive)
>12,246: Choco (Hololive)
>12,131: Noel (Hololive)
>11,696: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,486: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,639: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,521: GatchmanV (Indie)
>10,309: Magni (Holostars)

>After Magni, now Vesper will have his 1.5 update
Holy shiit!!! Imagine putting all your eggs in StarsEN basket for whole year and then release such a faulty and ugly model
Atleast do you job properly what is this half baked attempt after sacrificing HoloEN future

>>51183031
See, that’s why you get called a schizo.

>>51182969
They’re really trying everything they can think of to make them more popular huh

>Mysta leaker rrat already spreading outside here
kek that was surprisingly fast or did it originate outside here?

>>51183031
Except nijisanji.

>>51183106
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 66,563 - Apex
6) Watame (Hololive) - 84,756 - Birthday 3D Live
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,203 - Old Coin Pusher Friends (w/ Okayu, Noel, Polka)
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 57,303 - Hairstyle Reveal
9) Hinano (VSPO) - 87,282 - 3D Debut
10) Aqua (Hololive) - 68,208 - Startend Apex
11) Lui (Hololive) - 94,286 - Birthday 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
2x: VSPO
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Aqua
1x: Aki, Beni, Chiroru, Hinano, Lui, Marine, Pekora, Suisei, Watame

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
124x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
43x: Pekora
15x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Suisei
3x: Aqua, Chiroru, Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Hinano, Iroha, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Watame
1x: Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Yashiro

>>51183034
Timeloops are fun as fuck!

What if vesper stops being an Ojisan like pizza pops?

>>51183161
How is calling a spade a spade schizo behavior anon?

>>51183151
Do not belittle the support stars is getting, fuckwad. It's a 2.0, not a little dinky 1.5

>>51183210
Same result he will lose numbers

>>51183172
Does it matter? Lots of people camp this place to collect so, whether generated here or elsewhere, if always finds its way outside from here

>>51182969
>>51183151
Magni 2.0 was probably Cover trying to keep Magni from jumping to Mythic and Vesper and the others getting it are probably just to hide favoritism
desu they should let magni go since the guy became stale months ago

>>51182969
wait, when? why?

>>51183219
It’s the hyperfocus. You should take your meds, for real, not even kidding.

>>51183256
Im just curious since i saw someone saying that it started in a false fan discord

>>51183221
https://twitter.com/sarahnizzle/status/1667966514513756160
It is a small update before their Tempus Summer outfit

>>51183151
Wait really? Even the guy to get the first suspension? Holy homo bias

>>51183034
The most important one is lazy, or sick. Not that it matters because she refuses to at least day "no streams for a while". So I'll stick to her being depressed and lazy.

>Homos getting 1.5,2.0 behind the scenes
>Gura in an indefinite suspension
>IRyS got a 2 week suspension recently
Hmmmmm did they dare talk back because the homos getting more support than them?

>>51183332
I mean blame jp for that behavior since they encourage it with shion ayame aqua and haachama

>>51183323
>Holo summer will feature the homos
Holy shit i can see it

>>51183151
So IRyS had to deal with a year long battle to get a redesign that was clearly delayed because of her incompetent managers but the homos got theirs in less than a year? Sometimes I wonder if Cover really wants to nuke HoloEN and just focus on the homos considering how much they love shilling those failures.

>>51183323
Oh ok, I'm the fuckwad.
I checked mans tho, and someone said it was a 2.0 without being disputed
>>51182180
>>51182239

>>51183326
Its not a bias, I am imagining that both Magni and Vesper threw a fit to management over their models and warned them of quitting if its not fixed
>Remember both of them started streaming in their RM accounts
It was a clear message

Wait is vesper actually getting a 1.5 like magni ?

>>51183172
Pics?

>>51183380
>Hmmmmm did they dare talk back because the homos getting more support than them?
Anon you are confusing Hololive for Nijisanji again because suspensions are announced in hololive like vespers while almost all the suspension in niji since last year has been stealth both in en and jp

>>51183275
Vesper’s rm liked that tweet Magni made in his rm back then iirc
So I wouldn’t be surprised if he also bitched about his model

>you now remember guras permanently fucked up rigging job

>>51183415
I'm so tired of EN management. Really going to capitulate to starsEN graduation gambits of all people? Just fuck off

>>51183415
Man, thanks Gura
You sure shown them the way kek

>>51183415
Only one that went back to being semi active was magni iirc but him threatening to go to mythic might have been the catalyst for the 2.0

What site is this from? to check the members chat count
>>51182289
>>51182289
>>51182289

>>51183492
>Man, thanks Gura
>You sure shown them the way kek
Actually it was Azki that started that trend

>>51183415
So they got scared because two of the most popular homos who are still performing worse than Kiara threw a shit fit but IRyS still had to wait over a year to get her redesign?

>>51183414
>or more
Vesper finally getting his 4.0

>>51183400
Summer outfits were always a homo thing.

>>51183400
>Homos in Hololive Summer
Every day, Hololive themselves give me more reasons to want to drop them. It's like they're asking me to join the other hundreds of thousands of people who have stopped caring about them.

>>51183546
IRyS issue is that her manager hates her and she has no spine to go up the chain of command.

>>51183493
>>51183479
I watched his 1.5 debut today, and he clearly mentioned that a lot of people bts was involved including the whole Tempus to make it happen
I guess for Irys, she was fighting on her own also she didnt threaten them of quitting

>>51182969
>the two most popular homos being placated from quitting by giving them 1.5 and 2.0
Makes sense I guess, without vesper and magni they'd only have bettel to carry all their branch

>>51183400
Anon? JP Stars have always had their own summer outfit and event

>>51183414
>I checked mans tho, and someone said it was a 2.0 without being disputed
thats because the sister/shitposter who said that is retarded vesper did hint in his mengen that he was getting a touchup but thats probably closer to a 1.5 than magnis 2.0 along with the rest of the boys. Its probably in preparation for the summer event and is probably part of the last package that astel and miyabi hinted about a few months back for stars

>>51183436
Yeah right that’s why all of a sudden IRyS became “sick” but still showed up to her scheduled Collabs and sounded just fine.

>>51183546
Well anon, you don't understand. Someone in management, or management in general, hates Irys. That much is just fact at this point. She's been fucked over too much for that to not be true.

>>51183034
this is a bot post right? or is someone really so salty that he keeps copy pasting this shit?

>>51183492
Not like management listened to Gura thanks to that. Did jackall for her.

>>51183632
Anon, it's Japan. If she goes up the chain of command she could unironically end up in a Zaion situation where literally the entire company is actively trying to sabotage her.

Ngl, I dont mind Magni and Vesper getting an update because its such an ugly model for vtubers who need looks to be attractive to attract female fabase
I am just more baffled as to how did EN management green lit their model in the first place

>>51183509
https://holochatstats.info/members
>>51183694
It's crazy that her manager can actually ghost her for a week and no one there thinks that's a problem. I actually feel bad for her sometimes, considering she was a fan of hololive prior to getting in

>>51183689
I she was suspended she wouldnt have shown in the scheduled collabs like how axia, yugo and gwelu both had their appearance cancelled in the collabs during stealth suspensions anon

It’s hard to imagine Hololive management used to be supportive of the girls. I remember ton of clips back then about HoloJP manager hanging out and help them with mundane stuffs
I don’t even remember when they start favorite the dudes more

>>51183632
>>51183694
So they hate IRyS but are willing to do everything for a bunch of failures? Christ, at what point they drop the facade and just admit they couldn't give less of a shit about HoloEN?

>>51183741
They were betting on them to try and get the yaoi audience with those classic yaoi designs

>>51183752
I genuinely do not understand what she could have done that made management act like this toward her, but yeah. We've seen/heard all sorts of shit about how badly she's treated compared to everyone else. She really is just despised by EN staff.

>>51183799
Well I just want to see if they gonna suffer like Aruran
Unlike Aruran they still have time to rebuild their brand

>>51183787
Worse part is that its not just in EN cause Astel also did the same shit and got rewarded for it

>>51183790
IRyS manager has to initiate the process, that’s what her rant was about. Even Mori and Kiara kept telling her that she needs to fight back against management if she wants shit.

>>51183546
Because IRyS is a dumb doormat who goes "oooh yes sir okay sir" when they tell her
>uhhh idk we're working on it or something lol

>>51183753
>Holo and Niji suspension are the same
Yeah like if they want to piss flare off and have her rrat to the other Gen 3 girls

>>51183799
management still being stuck in the mid 2000s makes sense for some reason

why you fags keep saying "gura 2.0 when"?

>>51183394
I'm not giving them a full pass but they at least deliver a song or cover every now and then. Shion always comes back with one, but I'm not confident that Gura even has a song for her birthday.

No amount of model update it upgrade will help their numbers. Never did for HoloJP.

lmao I am once again but for real this time giving up on holoEN. Sorry Fauna and Mumei, but your branch has no future in Cover's eyes.
I just wish there was a way to support my oshi (Reine) without cover getting a cut.

>>51183861
I mean, honestly, Irys should have just been JP. Even if she auditioned for JP and got rejected, she should have just pulled a Lui or Koyori, whoever it was, and kept spam auditioning.

Explain.

>>51183936
Shion and Ayame still use twitter even when they don't stream for months.

>>51183928
It’s funny because Management did want to do Gura 2.0 but it was to add some tits to her lmao.

>>51183953
Is it too late? She can afford to pay to break her contract with holoEN if she gets into holoJP

>>51183943
this is true, it didn't help irys

>>51183861
>>51183884
It's hard to do anything when she's basically isolated from the rest of EN. She has her own team that manages her but she's essentially a slave to Project:Hope, so good fucking luck trying to do anything when she might get a complete different treatment from the rest of the HoloEN girls. This shit should've been nuked after Omega got removed from the director position but for some reason Cover still wants to continue this retarded thing so I guess IRyS will keep being treated like shit while the homos who can't even get half of her ccv without all the buffs in the world will get preferential treatment because their management loves to suck their dicks.

>>51183909
when you suspend someone stealth or otherwise you literally cant have them visibly working while being suspended anon since that can be grounds for a labor dispute and would also invalidate any internal investigation that the company might be doing

>>51183974
That too, Aqua is also pretty active on Twitter, even if it's mostly retweeting fanart during her no-streaming episodes.

>>51183981
yeah, fuck omega, literally the worst

>>51183843
Magni's design is still the same so I doubt it'll hurt him. We don't know yet how drastic vesper will be but he did say it will be more than magni's

>>51183936
>I'm not giving them a full pass but they at least deliver a song or cover every now and then.
I mean it easy to deliver a song when management doesnt block your projects

Why do you retards keep complaining about Gura not getting updates when she has said multiple times she likes how goofy she looks so she doesn't want to change it

>>51183998
They would have to give her a new model or something but, no matter what, it would just be too awkward. Everyone would see her, go "wait, that's Irys" and Cover would never see an end to the rrats that would spawn.

>>51183969
BaeRyS is unironically over since the Bae discord leak.
>But Bae joined IRyS on her GOI stream!
Yeah it was always unlike all the other times before. So either it was the Yab or it was one of those BURN BRIGHT, BURN OUT fast type of friendships

>>51184019
Irystocrats do your best to support her until she gets to do an AZKi and join Hololive as a streamer instead of a vsinger. Years to go...

>>51183546
Kiara almost regularly rattles management and it seems to work for her.
In fact, the only reason they even released the MMDs recently is cause Kiara started questioning management about finally releasing them (they were originally supposed to release a month after showcases).
Their response to her was more or less "we forgot".

>>51183943
Its not about the fans, its about themselves... How do you wake up being in HoloPro and then realize you have a model that looks like Magni or Vesper or Irys and dont get depressed and blame your lower numbers to the model

>1.7k people in bae’s waiting room 6hr before the stream starting
Is there any announcement or something in her karaoke today?

>>51184096

>>51184137
Announcement about her period

>>51184137
thumbnail

>>51184091
Because she literally said that Cover keeps trying to add tits to her. Her words not mine.

It has been a really long time now, but didn't Gura used to say that she had denied a 2.0 update for her base model because she had become attached to it and the goofy expressions it makes?
She used to emphasize them a lot, like I recall one of her thumbnail fixations for a while was the cross-eyed expression her rigging can do when she leans a certain way.

>>51183858
Not even comparable
At least Astel actually put effort into his content when he need to. This board used to watch his marvelous 3D debut and birthday live and were in awe at the production quality
Not like it was preferential treatment too cause he paid for most of it himself and Shinove helped him with it

>>51184096
>discord leak
But there was, quite literally, nothing of any real substance in the discord leak, lol. Don't get me wrong, I hate bae, so I wish there had been something, but there wasn't.

>>51184091
thanks to her shitty rigging as her base her eyes are like that permanently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9RKpwLlCtQ

Do you have your bait ready depending on who Fauna raids? I know i do

>>51184137
Mori raided her waiting room, a lot of people probably just fucked off to do something on another tab or play Diablo or whatever and are gonna sit in that room until they close their browser.

>>51184168
Bae using the great blessing given by pikazo at least

>>51184087
Okay, she could tweet or say something to her members. Management is why she doesn't care anymore, but I'd prefer if she outright said that she won't stream for a couple of months.

>>51184137
Mori raided her waiting room. Still don’t know why she did that.

>>51184140
Keep coping brat, enjoy all those Tempus collabs while I’m finally free from most of the baerys shit

>>51183478
She gaslit herself into thinking the shitty rigging is part of her brand since a ton of her clips take advantage of it iirc

>>51184236
> but I'd prefer if she outright said that she won't stream for a couple of months.
Management probably doesnt want her to say that

>>51184228
There's no question it's gonna be Bae, tho. I don't think Fauna and Irys are on bad terms or anything, but I absolutely think Irys is probably the council member Fauna cares the least about.

>>51184244
no, is just that she likes the retarded eyes

>>51182866
Calm down Jeremy

>>51184228
She may not raid anyone.

>>51184228
I'll have the report button ready.
Low-quality content is just that.

>>51184228
nah im honestly having more fun spreading the mysta thing outside here even though it wasnt confirmed true or false since people are more gullible there especially when you have a "trusted reputation"

>>51184195
Bae’s most recent conversation were tempus and the group without IRyS. Remember that the reason that she liked Bae is because she felt included because of her. Then you realize that she didn’t even know about any of the GOI shit council was doing.

Is it IRyS fault? Probably but she is going to keep feeling left out and now she knows they talk in that other group she isn’t in.

>>51184245
I'm not even a brat I just know you are trying to force a timeloop for whatever reason you shitter.

Who knows how Tempiss would have performed if they had kpop-bait designs.
Whoever the intern is that allows these absolute joke designs to pass quality control may be a blessing in disguise since they prevented them from ever attracting that crowd.
Still, it amazes me how this shit was allowed to get passed, it's honestly insane.
They learned nothing from IRyS who was at the very least clearly unhappy with her goblin model.
It makes me especially mad since the talents are the one who have to face the backlash and the knowledge that they're using a design that everyone hates, while having no choice in the matter.

Unfortunately reddit is such a gigantic forced positivity circlejerk we'll never get the pushback we need, it just barely worked for Gura's rigging because chumbuds number in the quadrillions.

So numbers anon who do you think will be the next gen with 1million subs first, gen 2 or gen 3?
Flare is streaming more than Choco but its fucking splatoon and the succubus seem determined to get her 1million.

>>51184354
What Mysta thing?

>>51184391
>Who knows how Tempiss would have performed if they had kpop-bait designs.
Still would have performed the same or even worse
Tempus problem has less to do with their appearance and more to do with their skill of being entertaining

>>51184381
>IRyStocrats not hating Bae
It’s not a timeloop it’s a reality. Brats love the ship since it prevents her from getting shipped with the dudes tho

>>51184424
Mysta leaking anycolor shit to False

>>51184391
What is considered kpop? Name some vtubers with "kpop"-like designs? If you mean like those Plave things those look absolutely retarded.

>>51184391
Nobody even knows what kind of design will be a hit anyway, or if rigging really matters that much, etc.
Like people have already said endlessly, Gura's 1.0 design was (is?) hilariously badly rigged and it didn't matter one whit because people like her and were entertained by her streams.
At the end of the day all of this redesign shit is just moving deck chairs on the titanic, these dudes are entertainers and if they can't attract an audience with their content it doesn't matter if they're hot or not.

>>51184466
That happened?

>>51184422
Choco is less than 25k subs away from the mili. She needs to put out a few non memebers ASMRs and she can get it fast

>>51184494
Some anon said that vesper was trying to gaybait recently
Sad to see history repeating itself

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>6/11 DAILY TALLY
14,314: Ren (Nijisanji)
11,486: Kronii (Hololive)
10,309: Magni (Holostars)
7,909: Uki (Nijisanji)
6,811: Ina (Hololive)
6,376: Baelz (Hololive)
5,841: Mori (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,060 - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 7,791 - Karaoke + Announcement
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,478 - 3D ASMR
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,225 - Minecraft
10) Ina (Hololive) - 14,002 - Switch Sports (w/ Henya)
11) Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,314 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Fauna
2x: Kiara
1x: Amelia, Baelz, Ina, Mori, Ren, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
22p: Fauna
15p: Ina
12p: Kronii
10p: Kiara
7p: Mori
6p: Amelia
5p: Baelz, Ren, Shu
3p: Enna, Mysta
1p: Fulgur, Luca, Magni

>>51184101
I'm fucking trying, man, but it feels like Cover is doing everything in their power to make IRyS give up. I swear to fucking god Yagoo deserves to have his skull crushed for all the retarded decisions in EN that he allowed or was directly responsible for.

>>51184118
Kiara isn't under Project:Hope so there's no way to know if IRyS would get a similar reply if she bugged her retarded managers.

>>51184466
Probably Zaion since it happened almost at the exact same time as she came out with her manifesto.

>>51184494
Rigging barely matters but design absolutely does.

>>51184433
>more to do with their skill of being entertaining
you dont find them entertaining because you shouldnt be in their target demographics
Female fans find them interesting, but they lack the biggest factor which is "looks", you have Bettel for that case, now imagine if Bettel debuted in Gen1 and not with Gen2 when the whole fanbase was resenting them. He would have had 300k subs by now not kidding

>>51183275
If they wanted to hide favoritism, then give one to Gura, otherwise you show favoritism to Homos

>>51184546
he's not he's just literally gay and people are starting to realize that.

>>51184551
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
120x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
17x: Mori
16x: Fauna
14x: IRyS
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Ina, Mumei
10x: Kronii
9x: Amelia, Vox
8x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Finana, Luca, Ren
1x: Alban, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Ike, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
164p: Fauna
131p: Ina
121p: Mori
117p: IRyS
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
77p: Kronii
74p: Vox
70p: Kiara
67p: Amelia
56p: Mysta
55p: Gura
44p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Ren, Sonny, Uki
10p: Elira, Fulgur
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi
5p: Alban, Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem
4p: Magni, Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka
1p: Maria, Meloco, Nina, Shinri, Pippa

>>51184519
People were already speculating it was mysta the moment the 2% thing got reported but apparently one of false's coworker hinted at it and some people added 2 and 2 together

>>51184551
Why are nijikeks allowed to do didney karaokes and HoloEn is not? Let Gura do a Disney karaoke and I bet she streams

>>51184494
Rigging doesn't really matter but the design obviously does, vtubers are a cross between a streamer/eceleb and an anime character, anime characters with designs that are good in some way (cute, hot, cool, whatever) tend to be more popular.

>>51183275
What did they change about him anyways? It seems they just added a nose and made him look less retarded.

>>51184582
I think rigging is like 15th or 20th on the list of the most important things for a vtuber. Design is top 5, maybe top 3.

>>51184573
Zaion was one of them but False said that he got it from multiple sources
Doesnt also help that people found out that he and false co-worker lived near each other

>>51184588
>Female fans find them interesting
Yea all 300 of them

>>51184566
Honestly I thought it was outright malicious with how badly some of the EN girls were getting fucked but how fucking shitty the new studio has been thus far makes it very clear that it's not maliciousness, it's incompetence. Cover genuinely has no idea what the fuck they are doing.

>>51184628
Rigging absolutely matters, but so does design.

>>51184643
thats why it was 1.5 update... also you dont want to change a lot to maintain good relationship with the artist

>>51184643
He can take his jacket off iirc

>>51184685
do you think any of the niji males are entertaining?? Do they follow the male vtubers for their personality or because they look hot for them??

>>51184688
The new studio is out already?

>>51184688
>how fucking shitty the new studio has been thus far
wdym? lui concert was good

>>51184091
She started saying that 2 years later and in a it has SOVL way. Miko was the same, but her new one is clearly an improvement

>>51184703
Nah the rigging barely matters honestly, particularly good rigging might make someone stand out for a while but at the end of the day no one is attracted to a stream by good rigging, whereas a good design can absolutely get you a ton of long term attention

>>51184582
>>51184628
It's much harder imo to say what a "good" design for a male vtuber is. I guess hot vampire looking dudes, e.g. Vox? But Mysta was popular for a long time and his design reminds me of a 1970s London burnout who hangs around music studios but doesn't actually record anything. Doesn't strike me as hot, I think his design is fucking comical.
Tempus2 has a whole gamut of potential bait designs and none of them work except Bettel, but is it because of the design or because of the circumstances of their debut and the company they're in?

>>51184775
They've done like four lives already there, anon. Come on.

>>51184678
Maybe he got it from Mysta or Ren long ago and didn't want to throw it out there until he got confirmation from another source (Zaion) because it seemed comically low and he would have looked stupid if they came out and publicly refuted him. If you got 2 or 3 people telling you independently "yeah it's 2%" it's more reliable.

What's up with male vtuber being fucking pussies? Gura got one of the worst riggings ever and she didnt bitch and moan about it on her rm.

>>51184688
I think it was stupid of them to not already have a recruitment drive ready to go the moment they announced the studio. They straight up went “well be having a recruitment drive in two months!”.

>>51184774
The niji males are dead in the water too

>>51184774
A bunch of the Niji faggots also have garbage designs.

>>51184781
Lui's was recorded months ago before the studio was finished. The only people using the new one currently are doing actual live Lives, not the recorded stuff most members like to do.

>>51184781
Even in Lui's concert, the vocals were way too low. Which, of course, is a step up from the dogshit Chloe had to suffer through, but still.

>>51184792
It’s like all those indies who go for top notch rigging, custom animations but no one gives a shit about them

>>51184832
and that's why she still hasn't had hers while the homos got theirs within a year of starting, because girls are doormats who let management walk all over them

>>51184792
Kiara has good rigging and Gura has bad, if that tells you anything about it's overall importance.

>>51184849
>Lui's was recorded months ago before the studio was finished
really cause most of the people are saying that its from the new studio when they soft opened it? probably after chloe which is why the audio is better

>>51184812
I left the pseudo neet lifestyle i had for the past couple of months by now, so I totally lost track of a bunch of stuff

>>51184832
Vesper is a lot of things but he is not a pussy. He does not hold back against management. And when they suspended him for being too real? Boss went and got a spear. As in next time they want to try that again, he'll put a spear into their plans for Tempus. He calls the shots now.

>>51184832
Bad rigging is different from bad design. Plenty of female vtubers from IRyS to Anya to Flare have thrown a fit over their design.

>>51184832
She didn’t break from all the criticism either unlike the homos. Worst thing Gura has ever done was not stream……. And then you think who she likes the most of Hololive
>Aqua
>Marine
>Shion
And then it makes sense

>>51184596
It seems almost every male vtuber eventually claims to be gay, huge overrepresentation.
It could be some sort of selective force that makes gay guys want to be vtubers more, but a cynic would make the obvious guess that it's a response to market forces and demand. Much like many Holos do gaybaiting but on the girl side. Gaybaiting is a "safe" way to do flirty content without scaring away your gachis.

>>51184885
It wasn't the new studio because 3/5th of Holotori weren't in Japan when it opened. The audio is better because they are used with the old studio, while Chloe's was the first stream on the new one and wasn't pre-recorded so they're still ironing the kinks and getting used to the new equipment.

>>51184849
>Lui's was recorded months ago before the studio was finished
Oh that's worse then. Because, Lui's is the only one that has sounded half decent.

>this is what BaeRyS fags look like
Ok no wonder Irystocrats hate them…. They are all greys

>>51184838
>>51184849
>Niji males with bad design
and they are dead too for the same reason....
Lets look at the biggest male vtubers in the west
Shoto, Vox, Mysta, Luca
they all pander, they all exploit and they are all scums
maybe that is the only way to be successful as a male vtuber outside JP
Hololive and Holostars brand doesnt allow you to do that, you will be massively criticized and cancelled

>>51184832
All the males who are good streamers and not gigantic faggots who melt down every 3 minutes are already popular as fleshstreamers

>>51184821
Most of the speculation was on Mysta since he's a blabbermouth and a couple of ExID with the biggest suspected culprits being either Rezza or Riksa since they were complaining about that stuff since last year

>>51184945
I'd say about 1/3rd of western male vtubers are somewhere on the faggot spectrum. It's a hobby that attracts that type of person but also incentivizes even totally straight dudes into playing along.

>>51185022
>not gigantic faggots who melt down every 3 minutes
but fleshfags are also like that. At least the popular ones as you pointed out

>>51184945
Either that or HoloEN is just unironically being filled with alphabet people, given Kronii being hired and Omega's pronoun bs.

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>51184912
>for being too real
If the same thing happened with one of the girls you beggars wouldn't stop calling her a manhera. You faggots are a fucking blight.

>>51185022
If you are talking about Kuzuha then kek cause the guy is as fragile as vox but with different triggers

>>51185030
I wouldn't trust anything from an ID simply because they may have different contracts due to being a net money sink. It would be interesting but I wouldn't take it as gospel for what everyone else's contracts are like. I wouldn't even take ENs contracts to be a mirror copy of the JP ones.

>>51183403
*spits on*

Iwys...you're supposed to be the one with the JOP mindchair...

>>51184945
The difference is that vesper actively never said he was gay or directly mention attraction to men, unlike the niji men that pretend that are basically gay for pay online. It's just very obvious he's a barafag if you watch him for a while.

>>51183400
Neck yourself, Nijinig.

>>51185068
they all melt down but after 3 years not 3 minutes or 3 months

>>51185139
>I wouldn't even take ENs contracts to be a mirror copy of the JP ones.
Top EN contracts are more or less the same as the top JP ones just like mid EN contracts are the same as mid JP contracts
ID might have the same contract as the low JP ones or absorbed KR
Then again Mysta and the others do work in the company and they probably have an idea on what the basic contract looks like

>>51185209
>unironic fujoshi delusions in /#/
Fuck off back to your containment thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUlKy_lBWjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUlKy_lBWjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUlKy_lBWjY
This Hag is taming Ojou

>>51184797
Good is fucking easy. It's 'great' that's hard.

>>51185209
I think his pre-Holo content was more openly gay. Probably saw that he opened with a high male demographic at debut and didn't want to chase them away. As they've naturally ebbed away he has less to lose I suppose.

>>51185139
>I wouldn't trust anything from an ID simply because they may have different contracts due to being a net money sink.
You are literally describing 80% of Nijijp

>>51185300
I wish it was fujo delusions, him making it so obvious he's a literal faggot made being a yume of his impossible

>>51185312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNUINHQpDDo

>>51183151
Didn't Gura wait years for an ahoge? kek

>>51185107
Kuzuha was well known for being toxic as fuck before he got bitch slapped by Kanae

>>51185168
>None of them are going to get 1 million views anyways
Just make some more of myth desu

>>51185384
Kuzuha was only "toxic" on screen, off screen the guy is a whiny faggot especially when stuff doesnt go his way

>>51185312
wrong, ojou is doing all the hags

>>51185350
Nah someone who gets 500 ccv or 1k isn't a net loss. Especially when Niji keeps 98% of merch revenue. Someone who is streaming 45 people as their daily average is.

>>51185384
When was he bitch slapped?

>>51185466
That 2 timing Ojou, I need to correct her along with all of her Hags

>>51183974
Funnily enough, Gura had actually been a bit more active on Twitter a few months ago, but has gone back to pretty much nothing now. Has she even like art recently?

>>51185470
theres no loss in the id side considering multiple id have gone on record to say that they get the no cut and get payed in exposure treatment from niji

>>51184551
I Disney really that much of a draw? Niji karaokes have been pretty bad recently and this guy usually has horrible numbers.

>>51184832
What kind of red blooded male worth jackshit would decide to get a flamboyant anime avatar and join an industry completely dominated by women?
Fucking Korone is a better brotuber than literally all the homoshits combined.

>>51185619
Yeah disney is always a draw if your willing to risk it

>>51185619
I can honestly see it given how Disney is known for being one of the most copyright strike-hungry companies out there.

If Azki was doing a Disney karaoke session, I know I wouldn't miss that shit.

>>51185651
So can holo sing Disney songs now?

>>51185642
>Korone is a better brotuber
por supuesto que ella es

>>51185619
Disney karaoke is how Astel initially inclined. Used to get 2-3k on his karaoke.

>>51185535
No, aside from the outlast stream she has completly dissapeared.
And considering that her totally competent management keeps banning games she actually wnats to stream i dont think we're gonna see alot of her.

>>51185706
Anyone can sing disney songs anon but the risk of disneys copyright spies is always looming even if its unarchived

>>51185766
then she definitely will graduate right? after all she can't do anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPcuam_F7uM

I have thought about it a bit now, and I think the only way Holostars can incline is
By seperating the branch completely and removing the "Holo" brand, "Holo" rules, "Holo" guideline
I genuinely believe that by being in HoloPro is cuffing the talents to do something out of general status quo and cuffing the management to take drastic decisions also the "Holo" expectations of constantly being compared with the girls take the toll too

>>51185847
nah probably will just coast through

>>51185642
What type of avatar would you get if you were allowed to pick it?

>>51185642
Girls are better brotubers than faggots made to appeal to teenage girls who are looking for manwhores to schlick.

>>51184391
Reminder that homos didn't even want to debut this fast after Sana's graduation so the tweaks could have easily been applied

>>51185897
I mean, that's what they should have done initially, but the damage is done at this point. Even if they were to just call them "Stars" at this point, everyone knows and understands they're Yagoo's pet project.

>>51185847
>after all she can't do anything
kek thats probably her ideal scenario since cover wont fire her for not working

>>51185642
korone doesn't do postnut runescape so she's not a brotuber

>>51185766
A little concerning that her birthday is coming fast and there's be no word at all about it. I suppose it will end up like Kronii's where she just kind of shows up for a bit at the last minute. I can't imagine it would just not happen, there's too much money to be made in Gura merch.

>>51185466
why does ayame have this power over hags anyway

the other cute retards like aqua don't seem to have that much of a pull

>>51186005
>why does ayame have this power over hags anyway
Because ayame is a loli from the sticks which triggers a hags maternal instinct

I wouldn't be surprised if Gura just told EN management she's done and checking out and then they didn't forward it to JP one

>>51185922
People say this, but she could just become a Twitch streamer and coast too, without having to deal with any perms stuff either. I 100% expect her to graduate before 2023 is over.

If she doesn't, that could only mean 2 things to me:
1. She's serious about being an idol (which, I don't think she is)
2. Cover is paying her more money than anyone can even imagine for LITERALLY just existing, to the point where Ironmouse numbers on Twitch mean nothing to her.

>>51186005
>the other cute retards like aqua don't seem to have that much of a pull
Marine seems to be able to, Aqua even bought her a mothers day present when they were out shopping together, but that just might be because Marine is the only one willing to slog through all the autism to the cute girl underneath.

>>51186005
with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsdQguLgvFc

>>51185986
She already said a while back ago that she had no 3D planned for her live because of “reasons”. Unless Cover lets her use the new studio all of a sudden (gonna have to let Kiara use it too) then there won’t be anything

When someone like Mori or Ame or Kronii slipped up their own fans jumped in to dogpile them. When Fauna or Ina "yabbed" their fans defended them to the death. What's the difference?

>>51186067
Gura makes enough money for Cover that they would probably just let her do nothing in exchange for just showing up to events and being a mascot.

>>51186183
>3D planned for her live
You mean, no live planned for her birthday?

>Gura
>Gura
>Gura
Bvtmkeks working overtime

>>51185897
The best they can can do currently is ignoring their fellow homos and branch out to anywhere but hololive and holostars like Roberou and Astel

>>51185986
I like to think she's just focusing on her idol activities and that her birthday is gonna be this ultra kino event, but that's just wishfull thinking and borderline delusional.

>>51186193
Timing i guess.
For the first 3, the "fans" were already very threatened by some dude at the time, while for Ina and Fauna there is no such threat in sight.

>>51185897
Nah they just need to stop being shit. The ones who aren't completely worthless manage to incline, it's just that they're starting from scratch and there's too few of them (the "good" ones) so it's a slow incline. The problem is that 90% of the homos are completely worthless and basically not even trying to improve their situation.

>>51186193
Because the 1st 3 did a 180 of what they use to be. Ina and Fauna was a small misstep but stayed the same.
>but Mori didn’t change!
Where the TT, milky, Vshojo collabs? That’s the type of audience she pandered too at the start and she dropped it to do homo collabs instead.

>>51186193
>>51186267
Do you faggots just pretend that they are on the same level?

>>51186183
I wonder if in the end Gura just got really frustrated that even after the Covid stuff was over there were still all these barriers to performing and doing idol stuff and it just killed what little motivation she had left.

>>51186193
Ina apologized and called her yab "team killing" she clearly dosent feel that way and simply said it on the heat of the moment.
Faunas yab wasnt even a yab, the worst thing she did is not ignoring a blatantly bait superchat.

>>51186222
Yeah she said it months ago in a members because someone SC some question. Kiara has already said the same that she can’t use the new studio for her BD either

>>51186080
>People say this, but she could just become a Twitch streamer and coast too, without having to deal with any perms stuff either.
Why would she though? considering her current situation is her dream situation especially if youve been following her even before gura.

>>51186193
yesmen don't sperg out

>>51186231
No one is even shitting on Gura right now, just discussing her. It's much more civil than usual.

>>51186231
No one cares about the opinion of a whore who doesn't care about her fans

>>51184240
Bae raided Mori's GOI waiting room as well, she's just paying her back

>>51186383
Go back fag

>>51186080
>being this fucking clueless
i always get a laugh out of retards like you who think that perms is the reason that gura is not streaming and that she wants to graduate because of it

>>51186193
I'm not a tako, so I can't speak for Ina's fanbase, but in Fauna's case, the reason she's defended so much is:

1. What she said was just true. You can argue she shouldn't have said it, but that does not take away from it being true.
2. She doesn't come across like she hates her fans or anything, unlike someone like Kronii who genuinely does seem like she despises her own fanbase. People who genuinely think Fauna does though are unironically threadreaders. They don't watch streams.

>>51185936
extremely scuffed MS Paint oc but would go balls in with gimmicks

>>51186383
The yes men are literally the deadbeats, teammates tho…… kronies are half yesMen and half trannies

>>51186222
delayed live same with kiara

>>51186444
sure...

>>51186005
>why does ayame have this power over hags anyway
Here is from Mio’s own mouth
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OYkKMvFdNIY

She explains that Ayamw evokes the protection feeling on her

>>51186304
Why do you think being entertaining and funny and creative is reauired to be successfull to be a male vtuber??
There are flesh streamers for that
Just like for female vtubers, being CGDCT is enough, for male vtubers having a k-pop style hot model and pandering is what is required
Everything else is an add-on
Problem with StarsEN is that they focused on the add-ons first and completely neglected the pre-requisite

>>51186500
>>51186419

>>51186067
Gura did that last year and they paid her up front to stay on for the IPO

>>51186500
Oh yeah I forgot about phase fags and Idol keks too. Those are the biggest yes men of them all since they eat up all the male collab streams they offer them

>>51186518
even nocammers could make it as well

>>51186567
name 1 successful male vtuber being a "nocammer"??

>>51186560
yeah, sure, only male collabers have yesmen...

>>51186560
stfu and go watch a Gura stream.... oh wait!!

>>51186633(me)
*in the west, I know JP is different, their expectations are different

>>51186518
>Just like for female vtubers, being CGDCT is enough
That's not true, the Hololive girls who are just cute only do well because they can passively draw from the Hololive box which was built up over the years by actually talented and entertaining members like Fubuki, Aqua, Pekora, Miko, Korone, Marine, etc.

>>51186518
>for male vtubers having a k-pop style hot model and pandering is what is required
no not really
you could give Kuzuhas model to someone like Aster, Astel Ryu or even Magni or Vesper and they will still have the same numbers because they are unentertaining
Its literally a skill issue on their part

>>51186652
Yes absolutely. There is nothing lower than watching an ethot while she flirts with some failed eceleb live on stream.

>>51186518
>Why do you think being entertaining and funny and creative is reauired to be successfull to be a male vtuber??
I’ll jump into this conversation and say that’s not a requirement.
Here is the list of boy vtubers and their medians
>pic related
It seems there are only two ways to succeed as a boy vtuber
1) sign with Nijisanji
2) be a specialist
On point 2) you get the Genshin ones, the FPS ones, the Phasmo one, the baseball one.

There aren’t lots of other avenues for even a 2k+ median. It’s either Niji or being really good at something and focusing on it

>>51186633
Thats impossible because theres no successful male vtuber for en in the first place even vox said that he's not successful and he's the top male for en

>>51186690
Like the new Prism male with the white hair

>>51186690
I don't watch Kuzuha, but what makes him more entertaining than other male vtubers?

>>51186773
that hes from nnd

>>51186633
I mean there are none vtuber no cammers that were successful! The thing is that they usually got more popular when they did start cam streaming.....

>>51186773
closest comparison i can think of is that he's basically the nnd version of dr disrespect/tyler1 for japs

>>51183969
they're fucking retarded for streaming in american hours instead of building a viewership on jp and aussie hours respectively

>>51186518
I remember people assuming Tempus is going to absolutely mog Hololive before they debuted. They are dudes. Of course they are going to be funnier, better at games, more talented and more based. Honestly I assumed the same. Turns out they are bottom of the barrel shitters and manage to make even the worst Holo look like Chad Thundercock.

>>51186773
He meshes well with other male vtubers (and non vtubers), that alone puts him ahead of 90% of the industry.
You can see that in that collab with the J-Pop dude that got 100k+: they were in for an APEX collab but ended up switching after to another game and another game and all of them looked like they were having lots of fun together.
Even then he doesn’t neglects his yume audience and throws them a bone whenever he’s with Kanae, or doing his Chronoir reps.

Long story short: he’s in a “boys will be boys” situation where chicks dig him and lads will hang around for the bro content

>>51186924
>I remember people assuming Tempus is going to absolutely mog Hololive before they debuted
I wish I lived in your pretend timeline.

I just did my archive reps and all the Rui lewds were delicious beyond compare. My god do I want Rui's ass cheeks smothered all over my face. Thanks lewds anon!. Oh yeah and also that bot obsessed nijivermin is back it seems That's neat I guess. No wonder the thread quality was shit. Rumao. The desperation and seethe is real. how pathetic KeK!!!

>>51186979
NTA but he was probably talking about gaming and streaming wise not number wise because i remember a ton of people thinking that they would have better game choices and ideas than the girls

>>51186924
>I remember people assuming Tempus is going to absolutely mog Hololive before they debuted
Retards are not people

>>51186986
>that bot obsessed nijivermin
Joke is on him, his effort to zero to prevent this thread from amplifying Niji yabes because it doesn’t take any effort and they’re all self inflicted

Still funny that the only successful brotubers out there are all women lmao

>>51186924
Who the fuck had this opinion? Most of this thread assumed they would be 3views from the get go in line with the JP homos.

>>51187029
that and its more fun to spread niji yabs outside now ever since nijisanji made it so

>>51187020
but they do have better game choices and ideas tho. They also dont back down to management like the girls and their 1.5/2.0 is a direct result of that.

>>51186979
Numberwise no. But there were tons of people assuming they were going to be better just because they are dudes. People still had faith in Cover's scouting team and even expected some big names in there.
Most of those fags just turned into Vesper cucks. You know the obnoxious retards trying to paint the dude as some gigabased brotuber when the dude can barely play vidya and is more menhera than most girls.

>>51187020
>i remember a ton of people thinking that they would have better game choices and ideas than the girls
You mean the ones wishing they would be brotubers?
At most the general consensus would be that they were not promiscuous homobaiting alphabet people like iLUNA.
>they managed to fail to clear even that low low low LOW bar with enough time

>>51187074
>but they do have better game choices and ideas tho
Not really considering their "best" vtuber wants to start playing some games off stream in order for him to be good when he's playing on stream
thats literal retard behavior for a streamer

Wish homofags would go back to their dead thread. Your failures of a branch aren't going to get any better and no amount of wishcasting will change that

>>51187074
>but they do have better game choices and ideas tho
lol
lmao even
the moment the retard wanted to play some shitty boring game like dwarf fortress was the moment i knew he had retarded game choices
not to mention that he easily gets sidetracked in his "zatsu" streams by sc

>>51187029
Knowing that there's a seething nijikek lurking these threads fuels me even more into shitting on their bargain bin black corpo and its bottom of the barrel livers. It's a cycle of sorts and the seethful nijikek is the one spinning the wheel.

Luxiem got their models to do all the work for them, they got the boost, they got the numbers and now they reached their ceiling
Yagoo on the other hand, took too long to debut their StarsEN and when he did it was too late and too many at the expense of much needed 5 girls
EN management is a shitshow but more baffling is that I dont see them learning from their mistakes instead all I see is that they blame the fans for their failures
So I dont see the situation improving unless the return tanks to an alarming level

>>51187108
>You mean the ones wishing they would be brotubers?
Yeah there were a few

>>51187206
And Magni disclosing after the fact that he DELIBERATELY picked shitty games to filter out anyone in the initial audience there for the game instead of for him as a streamer

>>51187074
Lmao where? Other than Project Zomboid and WoW they play the exact same games as the Hologirls and somewhat they are even worse. Hell none of them even touched a Souls game.
And that's not counting stuff like art, music and creativity. They get completely fucking mogged on that side. Tempiss had all the chances to succeed but ultimately they are just boring and talentless.

>>51186193
Not sure about Ina, but the thing is, Fauna's was never a yab. It was just a desperate attempt by nijifags to deflect from the 1% shitposting that was running wild. They needed something, anything, and they decided to go with it.

>>51186986
here's another one on the house

>>51187291
Anon you're replying to the same exact Nijifag. Anyone with more than two braincells knows than the Fauna thing was a pathetic astroturf by the homo sisters.

>>51187074
It actually takes someone real special to be boring at Holo minecraft since even Aruran and Rio is interesting at times but Vesper is just fucking boring to the point that i dropped him when he was still trying to make that wizard tower

>>51186971
>>51187083
Enna literally did drugs at a party last night.
Well, she didn't finish the sentence so it's not entirely certain but it's a fair assumption given that she stayed up ALL NIGHT "doing something" and refused to tell her chat what it was.

>>51187262
I forgot which of the boys it was but he basically said that he would probably never touch a souls game because its too hard for them

>>51187074
Yeah like shortly after debut do one episode of a lengthy jrpg, then completly dropping it, like axel did. Truly a great idea.
Blue faggot starting with zelda Tp was dumb numberwise, but I think he at least played through it.

>>51187291
I think some of it was also people really invested in the idea that there is only one way to watch vtubers and not pretending to be in a relationship with one was a betrayal of that way.

>>51187358
Are you sure it wasn't just a really rough deepthroating?

>>51187389
>the boys

>>51187358
Not sure if she's baiting saviorfags or if she's literally self destroying

FST begins soon

>>51187486
Both it's a cry for help

>>51187358
Sounds more like someone after a dirty sanchez spitroast than someone doing coke

love when luna goes unaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>51187556
Monetary help. better SC her some coke money along with the condom money.

>>51187486
>>51187556
maybe she's also affected like that luca mod who quit because luca getting a new girl toy

>>51187443
It's 100% certain that she was partying last night.
1) She goes to late night parties on the weekends ALL the time, this isn't something new.
2) She met up with 4 friends yesterday for unknown reasons and had to end her stream early.
3) Today she only got "2 or 3 hours" of sleep, and was drop-dead tired the entire time
4) Refused to tell chat why she was tired despite complaining about it the entire stream.
These facts make it obvious it was a party.

Now as for the drug angle.
1) It sounded like she was about to say "I was doing drugs" but stopped short and changed the word. "I was up late doing....doing something". The only thing you would use "doing" as an active verb for in that context would be "drugs" or "week" or something like that.
2) Her nose was clogged, she had an obvious sniff, and was sensitive to light and sound. Classic hangover.
3) She met a guy 2 days ago who offered to fuck her. She claims that she turned him down, but she might be attending his party. Who knows.

So the "party" angle is pretty certain, but the "drugs" angle is less certain, although likely
Remember that Enna is actually kind of a whore and dyed her hair pink:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaqztlFkcjQ
You will never find a traditional girl who dyes their hair pink, that's just not normal. That is the mark of a slut.

>holotori
nice choreo and nice camera work for once director-san work isn't a straight nerf to the exhibition

Does anybody know what happened to r/vyt it says that their private?

>>51187358
>>51187766
I wonder if these are regular parties or anycolors yacht parties? if its the latter then its explains why she's been getting preferential treatment lately

>>51187816
blackout against the api changes

>>51184994
On the other hand there is literal beggar tier behavior going on in Bae's chat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAkutrsrO6M

I actually can't stand Ina and her bullshit. This is Ame tier.

>>51187816
some kind of protest against reddit

>>51184994
>>51187865
>greynigs
of course it is

>>51187875
?

>>51187875
What? It was on her schedule, the only issue is the late waiting room

>>51187865
real irystocrats blocked bae after the penis stream

>>51187935
She literally just put up that reservation 10 mintues ago

>>51187875
If you're mad about Fauna overlaps, Bioshock gets shit numbers anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

>>51187865
the average irystocrat

>>51187978
She probably overslept - /wah/ was prepared for cancelled stream, so it's a win

>>51187875
>delay to grab snacks and a drink
kek

>>51188019
It's hurting both their numbers instead of just 1.

It's funny that so many of you here are actively pushing a Nijisanji style management without even realizing.
>Talents bringing the brand down put into the closet
>Only trying out new ideas when it's guaranteed to work
>Allowing talents at the top a boat load of freedom
The amount of success Cover has achieved thanks to the girls in spite of Yagoo trying to fail. The amount of success Anycolor has achieved in spite of their talents doing stupid shit. If you left everything the same but switched the leaders Anycolor goes down in a year tops but the worst thing that could happen to Cover is homos stop being an eyesore. This is with every rule staying the same and just leadership changing.

tldr: FUCK YAGOO and his yesmen

>5 minutes
/#/ is dead

>>51182773
>>51182803
I highly recommend this edition of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass btw, the illustrations are top tier and frequent!
https://files.catbox.moe/0sqom4.epub

Azki stop whoring yourself out with Geoguessr
Also
>Another Tuesday Minecraft

>>51188287
NA hours are starting. No mentally ill SEAsters and homo cocksuskers spamming bait.

>>51188269
>thinking that Anycolors failure is due to management
lmao
Anycolors failure isnt due to management but they do play a role
Anycolors failure is largely due to the livers themselves and how the niji resistance mutated from something that was supposed to help everyone to different factions and cliques with crab mentality backstage

>>51188376
no en3 next week darn

>>51188413
>NA hours are starting. No mentally ill SEAsters and homo cocksuskers spamming bait.
That and there were a number of retards that fell for the noel honeytrap and got banned

>>51188518
>noel honeytrap
how do people still fall for this

Kaela is no longer the lowest subbed holo.

>>51188542
I mean i cant blame them since even elves fell for her tits

>>51188544
Hitomi Chris my beloved

>>51188376
>Another Tuesday Minecraft
Fauna wouldn't join this early anyways

>>51188518
whats a noel honeytrap and why does it get peopel baned

>>51188544
The lowest subbed holomem has 600k?
It's not even bad

>>51188269
>It's funny that so many of you here are actively pushing a Nijisanji style management without even realizing.
only for homos since they are basically a drain of resources

>>51188506
I mean, I don't think they're gonna be announced now in June either, but Kiara's streams are about twelve hours earlier than when EN gens are usually announced or having their debut streams.

>>51188662
Noel dox. Thats all ill say

>>51188662
jannies usually post noels rm tits either as a new thread or an existing thread and retards will bit the bait and reply with rm and doxx stuff which gets them a 4chan style stealth suspension

>>51188644
Kiara is once again streaming at the one time no one, JP or ID, is gonna be on the server.

Gwim

>>51188742
Yeah that's dumb, I literally recall people posting in threads that the chicken had told people to check on the main holo channel the day Holo X was announced which was many hours later.

>>51188815
The last time she streamed at that hour, an ID and an EN joined her so...Maybe it's Fauna the one that always plays Minecraft by herself

>burger primetime is the most comfy hours now
what a weird timeline but its expected since euro and sea primetime is full of esl brains from the respective continents

>>51188742
kiara's totk streams are very long and usually go until 12AM EU time. HIstorically there have been EN debuts from 9PM to 12AM EU hours

>>51188897
It's both a Tuesday and earlier than Fauna almost ever streams.
I guess Kaela might be online, but she's probably grinding and won't wanna intrude on Kiara.

Reminder that the audition video market start of recruitment for EN, better pray they will train the newbies for a while rather than rushing them

>>51188988
>Kaela
shell be grinding but probably on diablo since theres no request for here in mc afaik

>Gundou not back yet
Are they really risking it by having her return close to Koshien

>>51189040
FOR HOW MUCH LONG? At this point an EN3 will only fucking debut in mid 2024.

>>51189078
>her return close to Koshien
Or her graduation close to Koshien to appease the mobs

>>51189078
I can't believe 5 livers would have graduated in the time Gundou was still suspended.

>>51189078
At least Holo gave some updates about Haachama there's nothing for Gundou though but I didn't do my reps on the latter

>>51189078
>>51189177
>>51189159
Nah Gundou will probably get the Tsumugu treatment from niji

>>51189159
Appease what mobs lol they've already forgotten about it and Gundou's departure would have terrible consequences for Nijisanji period as she's very well-respected in the group.

>>51189186
I recall reading updates from her from screenshots and posts from the jp circles from her other socials and last i saw it was still her throwing shade at her company

>>51188933
It just means the chumbuds and gators have given up.

Burgers were BY FAR the worst people to try ant talk to.
All extremes, either mindless hatred, or mindless defense force.

>>51189223
At this rate it's looking more like another Axia situation and I fear we'll just get nothing but silence until that without a goodbye.

>>51189306
>Burgers were BY FAR the worst people to try ant talk to.
nah yuros and sea are worse by a mile considering that a ton of the schizos on both sides comes from those places

>>51189284
>her throwing shade at her company
With how they handled everything I don't blame her one bit. It's the first major suspension I disagree with in Niji outside Gwelu's

>>51189233
>Appease what mobs lol they've already forgotten about it
Wouldn’t they be reminded of it on her return?
Niji baseball season is almost there, by this time last year Maimoto already had some 10 of these, with the lowest on 8k

>>51189078
She's stealth terminated m8

>>51189323
Axia situation would make them look bad especially with the mass graduations from ID and Akane suddenly graduating
Tsumugu scenario is far more likely especially with Gundou and her connection

Don't expect any EN3 announcement till after/during their concert in LA. If they did, then their incompetence is downright malicious.

>>51189368
Yes, that's why shitposting goes up across the board when Americans start waking up
And I'm not even talking about USA only, South America is a thing too

>>51189386
>It's the first major suspension I disagree with in Niji
Does it even matter? They had enough material for their book of grudges to make Zaion termination notice look like Coco’s graduation grand tour with honors.
She’s at their mercy right now

>>51188367
I'm going to Alice.

>>51189467
Nah you can clearly tell even outside here on other generals that quality drops in sea or eu primetime
For sea its usually shitposting while eu is more on bootlicking

>>51189368
I don't know what's with burgers that keep trying to push yuros as being a bad time. It used to be the only time we ever really had civil talks about numbers and anyone who was around knows this.
All the actual numbers anons leaving has reduced those discussions though.

>>51189386
>outside Gwelu's
Why? Gwelu was a retard who sang that anti song days after that Cover and Anycolor statement and he made his situation worse by talking shit and then cowering like a bitch deleting it in his rm

QRD on Tsumugu?

https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/1668000236068036608

>>51189536
>eu primetime
you have no idea what that is, do you?

>>51189411
No... /ourwhore/...

>>51189640
>It used to be the only time we ever really had civil talks about numbers and anyone who was around knows this
Your thinking of 2021
2022 yuro time was literally the time when we had noor and the eastern euro niji bootlicker active which soured the eu time being peaceful

>>51189723
she was sold to the yakuza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fR9Pbz1lO4
I don't know why YT keeps pushing this stream.
Saw it go from 150 to 300 and now 450 viewers.

>>51189700
in the lul between burger primetime starting, eu primetime ending and sea waking up
the last golden hour

>>51189725
Anon, It's Euro hours right now.
And guess what? It's supper chill.

Why the actual fuck is IRyS directly overlapping Bae

>>51189650
Nah, Gwelu could have done everything just like that and got away with it squeaky clean, for all that Anycolor is concerned he didnt anything out of character for their livers.

It was the costing Fuwa and Tomoe that sponsor they have lined up for his wave and the ensuing fanbase war with Fuwa yumes, it was them demanding reparations and Anycolor obliged.

>>51189777
kys shill

>>51189043
She's always on the grind for her Netherite beacon

>>51189653
Niji liver who last streamed back in feb 2019 and hasnt streamed since
rrat was that she died and family wanted to keep it hush hush like that kpop girl

>>51189777
Airi from PC only exists to be a set of amazing tits.

>>51189777
That’s because it got raided. Can’t be arsed to check by which channel

>>51188698
Well obviously even the worst holo girls would get good support with their numbers in Niji. While even the best homos are bloated with numbers they got leeching

>>51189845
end of euro hours meaning majority of the euros are probably going to bed which is why its chill