/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>50881068
how is this related to vtubers?
honestly speaking, isn't this change good for viewers? you get to see less Ads from your favorite vtuber.
you twitchfags don't have to see the occasional "buy gfuelgamersupps" blip on screen protector or the other 100s lf sponsors they full the entire screen with. you actually get to see the game.
>my favorite streamer gets less money now.
good. now they have to do big events and make more merch to make you happy.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>50881436
Why fight it?

>>50881508
>how is this related to vtubers?
isn't he mythic co-owner?

*YESTERDAY’S EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY (06/05)*
>13,710: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>11,493: Vei (Mythic)
>7,060: Ame (Hololive)
>6,719: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,462: Shylily (Mythic)
>6,195: Zentreya (Vshojo)
>6,090: Neuro (Indie)
>5,882: Ame (Hololive)
>5,334: Flayon (Holostars)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>5x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

*EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (06/05)*
>10,591: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>7,060: Ame (Hololive)
>6,815: Vei (Mythic)
>6,719: Fauna (Hololive)
>5,882: Ame (Hololive)
>5,412: Neuro (Indie)
>5,334: Flayon (Holostars)
>5,126: Shylily (Mythic)

PER COMPANY
>1x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>4x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

Notes:
>Cut-off time for final tally is midnight PST

>>50881352
Apparently it'll be alongside another hag called Kotori Koiwai so I guess it's more like an educational, public ASMR? Kinda like those commented speedruns in Games Done Quickly where they play the game and explains the speedrun tricks alongside the game's plot points

Imagine being scared of big numbers lmao

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>84,756: Watame (Hololive)
>47,823: Miko (Hololive)
>26,906: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,177: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,382: Noel (Hololive)
>18,974: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,463: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,955: Korone (Hololive)
>16,429: Patra (Indie)
>15,435: Aruse Inu (Neo-Porte)
>14,213: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,350: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,447: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,136: Lui (Hololive)
>10,998: Nene (Hololive)
>10,435: Luna (Hololive)
>10,008: Chiroru (Indie)

>Loses the mandate of heaven because your entire branch are filled with and managed by retards
>Vtubing is dying

>>50881566
On her channel?

>>50881644

>>50881436
>How do I fight the urge?

>>50881508
>how is this related to vtubers?
mythic talent
>less Ads from your favorite vtuber
less money for my favorite vtuber too
>big events and make more merch
my vtuber is 3 views

>>50881644
I love my sheep wife and we will have a thousand sheep babies

>>50880877
The funny part is that speech will hurt his numbers again, and he will have another menhera attack

>>50881685
He already did that with the cuck tweet yesterday

https://youtu.be/1Xfh4L5gXww
https://youtu.be/LDLW427i4t0
https://youtu.be/XQhoHlzrtX4
How are these performing btw?

>>50881678
>less money for my favorite vtuber
who cares lmao
fuck off

>>50881436
Embrace it, i'm sure Kanata has done the same towards Gakki

You know it's GRIM when Ame of all people get's EN gold

>>50881649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8NM5c476U

>>50881644
My Welsh heritage is calling me...

>>50881644
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 66,563 - Apex
6) Watame (Hololive) - 84,756 - Birthday 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Aqua, Beni, Chiroru, Marine, Watame

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
120x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
3x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
42x: Pekora
15x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Aqua, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Watame
1x: Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Yashiro

Main tally should be 20k and cripple should be 3k.

>>50881647
I'm happy this fag is suffering for the ruin he and his co-workers brought onto vtubing last year. I guess karma is real.

>>50881526
Okay I'll do it.

>>50881750

>>50881565
kys ban-evading nijitranny schizo

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTWtHJmGoHY

>>50881678
>less money
then donate fag.
they don't live off of Ads, but your donations.
>mythic talent
asmongold isn't a vtuber
>says a 3 view can't do big events or make merch
2 views on youtube can make fucking merch.
is your 3view a fucking child?

>>50881802
Anon, I have made tributes to Watame before. Kissing the screen is not as bad as you think.

>>50881647
He sounds like you fags watching myth decline but Gura stays the same

Is it just me or are fans of entire gen 0 there if we discount robosa?

>>50881846
Hahahah what a massive cocksucking pagpag eating homo

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>6/6 DAILY TALLY
7,060: Amelia (Hololive)
6,719: Fauna (Hololive)
5,882: Amelia (Hololive)
5,298: Vox (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Kiara
1x: Amelia, Baelz, Fauna, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
10p: Ina, Kiara
9p: Fauna
6p: Amelia
5p: Baelz, Shu
3p: Enna, Kronii
1p: Fulgur, Luca

When they moved to YouTube, surely their chuuba can enter the actual tally right?

>>50881436
I JUST DID IT!!!!

>>50881932
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
116x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: Fauna, IRyS
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Mumei
10x: Ina, Kronii
9x: Amelia, Vox
8x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Finana, Luca
1x: Alban, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Ike, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Ren, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
151p: Fauna
126p: Ina
117p: IRyS
114p: Mori
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
74p: Vox
70p: Kiara
68p: Kronii
67p: Amelia
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
44p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Sonny, Uki
10p: Elira, Fulgur
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Ren, Rosemi
5p: Alban, Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem
4p: Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Magni
1p: Maria, Meloco, Nina, Shinri, Pippa

>>50881968
>moved to YouTube
nah Ruble and kick exist anon

>>50881846
Kek nijisisters are truly insane

>>50881932
>4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
>5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
>6) Amelia (Hololive) - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)
Ametori carrying the EN scene

>>50881975
isn't mysta's niji's menhara? are all of luxiem menhara sans ike?

>>50881975
>Third comment
Not with that two percent cut kek, how much does he get in SCs anyway?

>>50882000
Okay, now whip your dick out and come in her image.

>>50881975
>he's called niji's menhera
Isn't that mysta? After the retarded equivalence between subs and CCV he did, he deserves to be called niji's retard

>>50881894
Nta but you’re a colossal faggot. Unless a 2 view has huge paypigs they can’t afford merch and even in the cases where they can some aren’t profiting as much as you think they are. And donating isn’t enough or do you think he should bankroll this girl alone?

>>50881846
Fucking absurd.

green rat in the corner status? are sisters ogey?

>>50882042
As opposed to the holobronies kissing their monitors?

>>50881721
Compared to the subs or overall? It’s not bad compared to the subs but no it’s performing badly.

>>50882093
>>50882079
Seems like male vtubers in general is a bit mentally ill

>>50882028
>>>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
>151p: Fauna
>126p: Ina
Ina/Fauna pipeline it's one of the last strongholds of holoEN, almost ironic they are gura/irys tier of interactions.

>>50882215
I mean it's a pretty obscure channel and i wouldn't call them high effort so it's doing what it's supposed i guess

>>50882200
>Retard Nijitranny thinks xey have leverage
sister...

>>50882289
Give me one of these with Gura kanata or okayu

>>50882289

>>50882375

>>50882360
no

>>50882235
They know that what they're doing is wrong and there's no excuse for it, so they're always on the brink of cracking and lashing out, threatening the audience, etc.
Every single one.

>>50882289
>>50882375
>>50882430
I don't like this

>>50882293
The channel had a strong start but they let it flicker. En management was always incompetent to the point that they couldn’t even come with scripts for their hologra and decided to redo funny clips. Something that other channels have already done and better. It doesn’t get a pass

So apparently Rin did a "Reveal stream" of the new Jewtuber models and included boys as a joke.
So get ready for Jew Homos down the line.

>>50882336
Keklol. This is so funny. Not even GFE enjoyer connoisseurs (such as myself) would sound that deranged. Women unicorns are more crazy than their make counterparts.

>>50882466
About that, which one of the niji guys threatened to fuck someone's oshi?

>>50882466
well they do lash out at their audience. mysta with the whole "fuck your oshi" shit and calling the molestation superchat fake. apparently yesterday reimu and vox said some dumb shit as well, but no idea what the context was

>>50882498
It's amazing how HoloEN management somehow completely mismanaged every single platform they had (Youtube, Twitter, Reddit etc.)

>>50881968
Yeah they'll be on the tally but their numbers will get fucked. Ironmouse isn't getting 10k sleeping or reacting to videos, they'll have to actually make content. All these 2k girls like Bao or Haruka would likely end up high 3views. In the end, no matter what, most of them simply won't move. The type of audience their content resonates with is only on twitch.

>>50882516
I swear their CEO said >no males in the past

>>50882516
Jews aren’t retarded with money despite what it seems. Only 1 company has had successful males he’s not dumb enough to try

>>50882200
>cute anon want to give a chu to the monitor
>deranged subhumans send death threats and gore
yeah

>>50882563
Mysta
And Vesper

>>50882516
>>50882590
Avriel or whatever the hell is his name already said the company has no interest in debuting male vtubers and the dude isn't fucking blind to not see how this market is in a free fall outside of Korea.

>>50881436
>>50881526
If he rolls 1, add "constipation" to his status as permanent debuff.

>>50882590
Success of the new prism boys has clearly changed some minds

Oh right, any news about that Indo monkey dude?
Was reason he got fired revealed?

>>50882562
>Women unicorns are more crazy than their make counterparts.
Now that I think about it Mafumafu's female fans are 100% the ones who were harrasing Lushia.

>>50882616
>spoiler
went into the trouble to bite bait with that milquetoast rebuttal, weak

>>50882567
Cause they hate their own audience.

>>50882080
Vox? usually top 5 out of all vtubers if he streams for the whole month. Even with his audience reduced so much he still gets tons from the remaining core group. Shit like this.

>>50882661
you are missing one at the left of member
>cliptitlereader

Sometimes I feel react content is exactly what Holo talents need to refresh from the mental burnout.... they stress so much to come up with new game, new content it has to be tiring when all fans really want is for them to showup and do literally anything

Hololive should have just developed a website where all the artists, animators, clippers can upload their Hololive content and the girls can just watch it together with the fans... win-win for everyone
PS: Isegye streamers do the same on Twitch with their own content

>>50882572
EN's decline was a team's effort. But the one with the biggest ass on the team was management.

>>50882661
Where do you put someone who watches streams but doesn't subscribe?

>>50882654
They cut up a bus featuring her but then there were also the usual nijiniggers

>>50882572
Didn't they recently have an opening for someone in a social media position?

>>50882784
if it's incognito tab under
>absolute legit viewer that don't require verification from the system

>>50882360
Someone Photoshop Noel's mouth on other holomem and post the results. ONEGAI!!!!!!

>>50882572
Nothing about en makes sense. Especially their hate boner for gura

>>50882661
The one thumbreader i encountered in this thread was based as fuck

>>50882897
Nah that anon was a Clip title reader, didn't even glance at the thumbnail. Absolute specimen of a man.

>>50882876
posting 25k increments on tempus covers while forgetting 1M LMSH, never forget

>>50882235
>Pity baiting.
Disgusting.

>>50882730
They are in the bizarro world where the existence of merch makes you rich automatically but won’t admit notYugo is the richest vtuber in the world by their own standards

>>50882929
probably gave the most unbiased recollection of astel(?) escapades during Vsaikyo

>>50882800
Of course it had to be the nijivermin scumbags

>>50882933
More recently they also ignored Bae's Psycho reaching a million.

>>50882760
JP has literally done that thread reader. It was also what Gura wanted to do and management said no then she asked her fans for ideas then they shit on it. Then made peace with old movies

>>50883007
And Ina's cover until it was mentioned in this thread

Nijisanji EN status?

>>50883007
They ignored gura/mori king breaking 30 million and that had people upset but I don’t know if they made one afterwards

Has Ina mentioned the Homos at all outside of acknowledging the cover she did in her comeback stream?

>>50883149
I don't believe so, it would have gotten spammed if that were the case

>>50882760
But they do react content once in a while?
Bedroom reviews and shit

>>50883149
No.
She also doesn't follow the new ones.

>>50883149
She said Roberu once when she played Idol Showdown

>>50882760
I agree with you, and think that much of Gura’s burnout is due to her fans flatly rejecting her suggestion of react content.

>>50883149
Nope she’s safe but under watch. The order goes
1. Gura
2. IRyS
3. Fauna/Ina
4. Mumei
Everyone else is a whore

>>50883277
There's react content she could do, it'd just be slightly more effort than pulling up a youtube video.

>>50883264
that's basically 1 step away from picrel

>>50883007
They also never made a thread for ina's birthday. Not even a late one they straight up skipped it

Oh yeah, EN and ID are getting 3D yukatas this year too.

>>50883310
Mostly agree but I think Fauna deserves to be over Ina, she hasn't directly collabed at all and hasn't mentioned them since Homo part 1's debut. Unless you value twitter follows more than an actual song cover I guess.

Otherwise pretty good, I actually do wonder if Gura even knows Tempoop exists, I'm sure she knows of Tempiss, but Tempoop it feels like barely any of the girls are even aware of them.

>>50883149
Nobody mentions the homos except for bae these days. In the end fans overreacted when it came to mixed collabs and CGDCT won in the end.

>>50883360
Fuck yes, looking forward for Kaela's, Mumei's and Fauna's. Anya too!

>>50883310
I still don't understand how Mumei's journey in hololive went

Enna goes on a 5 minute long numberfagging rant. Claims that hiding the viewercount "significantly helped with my mental health"

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrwMg1a1Wek&t=14373

>>50883264
>She said Roberu once
It's over...

>>50883360
Why did that catch your eye and not swimsuits? Also I hope they get the original swimsuits as well I don’t like how they didn’t get the chance to get the original idol outfits

>7k for mimi minecraft, again, is a good turnout. Though she does have the advantage of not streaming in the last few days.

>>50883360
let's go per order, summer comes first.
not that i'm waiting for council swimsuit uh

>>50883456
All of EN will be forced to wear USA micro bikinis even if they're not American

>>50883149
Did she not mention Shien at all when she did that MMO ad that he was also in? I honestly have no idea

>>50883360
Where was this announced

>>50883413
Ooo, something to look forward to ~

>>50882760
>and the girls can just watch it together with the fans... win-win for everyone
I’ll just assume you never watch Haachama Sunday (to give one example)
There is nothing preventing the EN girls from requesting fan content and watching it with the audience, even once a week if they would like so

>>50883444
You know what would help with their mental health? If management stopped caring about maximizing their numbers. They repost tweets to get more likes, for fuck's sake.

>>50883455
should i report her to cover? i think it's unironically illegal to mention them

>>50883413
>Kaela's
>ID3
anon...

>>50883444
So what do you all think was the actual breaking point for when NijiEN entered freefall?
I'm partial to that 4chan imitation stream Millie did, but I'd entertain other opinions.

>>50883507
I mean the Yugo Discord leak showed that Management brings it up to them unprompted so yeah.

>>50883456
I already know about the swimsuits. I was the anon who translated the official stream where they revealed the winner.
I just saw some fanart on Twitter and it reminded me that they're getting the yukatas too.

>>50883529
I CAN DREAM OKAY?!

>>50883429
Collab with jp homos that everyone including her tries to memory hole. Blame has been shifted to bae because mumei doesn’t speak japanese

>>50883444
I don’t think she’s lying since Gura herself does that. Though the magnitude in size is different

>>50883507
That was for a sponsor

>>50883523
I think we should take this higher up the chain. Let's go to Japan's prime minister

>>50883468
yukatas came before swimsuits last year

>>50883544
>So what do you all think was the actual breaking point for when NijiEN entered freefall
Vox unarchived karaoke failing to beat the first after he went into that
>This one will be much bigger because I have more subs

>>50883560
Do you think yukatas will get a change or will the add a new outfit this year

>>50883406
Nigga if fans and Gura hadn’t put their foot down the EN branch would have turned into a real holopro branch.

>>50883456
OG idol outfits are pretty shit honestly

>>50883490
It hasn't been announced, but unless they do away with them they'll get them too. All branches are in hololive summer this year, after all.

>>50883616
Maybe just adding some more variants. Don't really think they need as much of an overhaul as the swimsuits personallty.

>>50883600
It didn’t

>>50883544
>>50883606
If you mean numbers wise it was “parasocial freaks.” If you mean mentally the return karaoke where he had props set up

>>50883406
>fans overreacted
They didn’t. Having to lock the Reddit down for tempoop debuts was a company wide wake up call, specially in contrast with the magfest that the first debuts were

>>50883544
It's all the 3D live, it took away luxiem consistency with that month in JP and they were already in the recline since end of summer (masked by clickbait buff stack) with few of the sisters ready to bidding goodbye on the 1st anniversary, the souring that came afterwards paired with the 4chan stream and subsequent "covid" cancellation it's all negativity compounding on the non-chinese viewership core while the world fully opened and many flesh idols came back in full force.

>>50883555
Because if their numbers crash, there's a good possibility Riku decides to just merge the branch and fire all the EN staff.

>>50883654
Haachama or Shion’s idol outfit on Gura. Kanata’s on Ina honestly don’t care about anyone else

>>50883729
Locking the sub when you have new chuubas is still one of the most retarded things they've ever done. How do you even justify that?

>>50883616
Maybe? They could always add more variations, but it's still just a yukata. There wasn't a contest for it like with the swimsuit.

>>50883743
You do realize half of these are a result not a cause right?

>>50883149
She briefly brought up Altare's mama being a fujo eroge artist, and that Ame played one of the games illustrated by them during one of the Zelda streams.

>>50883793
>How do you even justify that?
the nijinigger astroturfer in my groomer den told me to do so

>>50883429
Mooms was convinced into believing the JP Holostars were safe, she’s dumb and impressionable

>>50883701
it didn't? fuck my memory is shit

>>50883616
Can't they already choose one of a bunch of yukatas in 3D anyway?

>>50883825
I was surprised to learn the screwdriver artist was actually a homomama

>>50883809
The one guarantee mumei gave us was that she would make sure it stayed a skimpy swimsuit and we know marine’s taste. So this borderline had to be iofi’s pick. I feel it will only look good on sora and maybe korone

>>50883825
Wait, she mentioned her without saying that she designed Altare? That's hilarious.

>>50883793
Locking the sub is just standard procedure when something big happens.
Like Coco graduation
Or Sana graduation
Or Rushia termination
Or Tempus 2 announcement

>>50883854
They are safer i guess. Also even if you collab with JPs the fanbase doesn't seem to pair you up that much but god forbid if you collab with homoEN you'll never see the end of it

>>50883854
she still liked rikka tho

>>50883910
There's a few variants on design sheet and probably at least some variation based on holos too

>the only few deleteds on this thread are hiding shit nijis do

>>50883875
Yea but matching the current colors to en is tough considering it was 5 or 6 colors that match jp. Kiara, mumei with maybe Gura and kronii being the most aesthetic

>>50883928
No, Ina outright said "Altare's mama." I'm too lazy to dig up a timestamp with the quantity and length of her Zelda streams, but I think it was roughly around the time when she was bringing the blue flame to relight Purah's forge.

So, Vox recline's was because he's just an ironic vtuber?

tick tock

>>50883444
I assumed most streamers would turn that off by default.

>>50884021
Well to be fair if she just said the artist name i doubt anybody would know who she was talking about. I know every EN mama by name and most JPs but not a single homo one

>>50883930
Did they lock it for Sana?

>>50884072
Same. I only know that axel's artist is the FE artist

>>50883910
It still has some variation. They get to pick between bikinis and tube tops, as well as between hot pants and a skirt.

>>50882863
Here's a png.

>>50884031
Depends if that fact make him do yo mama joke.

>>50883544
NijiEN, at least the guys, slowly started falling beginning around July 2022. Some of the girls got a bump for a while going into fall 2022 and staying stable or inclined until 2023. By November not even Luxiem could get 10k easily outside of handcams and karaoke (handcams were being spammed around that time). 2023 seems to then be the big drop after all the spam from the Luxeim anniversary. It probably wasn't just one thing, but a combination of things like yabs, the firings, concert cancellation, and the general decline of the EN scene.

>>50884021
Anon up there said the audience “overreacted” to the homocollabs but
>other than Mori, Bae and Kronii and maybe Ame
the frontline was pushed so deep even indirectly mentioning someone connected to the homos is considered a victory and something remarkable

>>50883948
You don't?

>>50884072
Hey, it's not like I'm giving her shit for it, I'm just citing my sources. It'd be like giving her shit for acknowledging Pako when he's an order of magnitude more famous for drawing dudes than girls.

>>50884031
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commedia_dell%27arte
If you have to get yuro take theater geeks that studied this shit, it's basically proto-vtubing

>untransparent png
We're reclining.

>>50884059
>30k
She had this last month or so as well. I guess she really did incline.

>>50884068
No most keep it on they like the numbers

>>50884151
didn't he double down instead of saying sorry?

>>50883544
That and the canceled concert, because of 'covid', was probably the point where they couldn't recover.

>>50883930
>Locking the sub is just standard procedure when something big happens.
Standard procedure when something *bad* happens, a debut is supposed to be a good thing that generates hype and happiness in the fanbase, tempus2 did the opposite and that's why they locked it down. Also I don't think they locked it down for Sana.

>>50882235
Jesas no wonder some sisters are so exhausted. You can't not be parasocial when they overshare to this extent. There should be a middleground here as a public figure.

>>50883930
>big
bad

[Sad News] Zen Gunawan is no longer allowed to be discussed on this board, moderation team hates Indonesians to the point they don't even hide the fact that they delete posts talking about him due to their racism

>>50884113
Iofi failed us

>>50884202
He said sorry
>sorry you got offended. Banter is common in the west, you chinese wouldn’t get it
Not even kidding, I’m paraphrasing but the tone was exactly that.

>>50882066
the ametori offcollab arc has been a huge success
tons of clips, very fun streams and good CCV
too bad about the scuff last night

>>50882863

>>50884158
People try to gaslight you into thinking it wasn’t that bad but even now they have to say all girls collab

>>50884255
He literally is a monkey chuuba...

>>50884255
We probably got a new around this hour or the shit one from a almost a year back is back

>>50884305
>good CCV
Come on…

>>50884305
>good CCV
Eh.

>>50884279
I'm guessing that they can remove the details too, but that depends on the 3D implementation. This image here might just be part of the reference.

>>50884380
>>50884381
Ignore the cuckmate

>>50883854
They were it was the other girls, specifically Ollie who was openly hitting on the boys that pissed her off.

>>50884255
KEK LOST MY FUCKING SIDES
I LOVE JANNIES NOW

>>50884255
>is a literal monkey
This is actually hilarious.

>>50884305
FIrst two things are correct but the CCV has been surprisingly lacking. 10k karaoke on Kiara channel is ehh but not terrible, but 6-7k or whatever on Ame's channel was quite poor.

>>50884398
Why is their a string bikini under the actual bikini

>>50884473
You are under a strange assumption that Ame is stronger than Kiara nowadays
It's quite outdated view of the things

>>50884473
>surprisingly lacking
Ame + Kiara getting low CCC is surprising to you?

>>50884473
>10k karaoke on Kiara channel is ehh
>archived pre-recorded karaoke
ftfy

>>50884380
10.8k on kiara's channel is good
it's more than Towa Holotalk, and only marginally less than Girlstalk with Gura and Mumei
it's also way better than the recent Takamori offcollab

>>50884333
Holy SEX. Anon, this is Astonishingly Based As Fuck, you know.

>>50884255
>makes /vt/ jannies piss and shit their pants

>>50883149
She told takeks to welcome Tempiss to the "Hololive family" shortly after they debuted

>>50884580
Anon no!
You will get banned!

>>50884255
>KEK
here have women monkey

>>50884551
Takamori offcollab last year was 15k stop accepting this new normal

>>50884473
>karaoke
hardly
and the 7k was due to crippling internet issues, which is why i said too bad about the scuff
i wasn't counting that

>>50884551
If it was qualified with “relatively good” but straight good, certainly not

>>50884606
I hope you get the help you need

>>50884632
translate?

>>50884646
nah, as you said it is a new normal
you have to accept it, otherwise you'll be stuck comparing everything to 2020/21 and will lose perspective

>>50884692
they are shitting on /vt/, specifically that /#/ is an anti nest

>>50884715
That was june 2022 numbers. Might as well say nijien is still performing good

>>50884692
Literally a mirror

>>50884632
>It's all the schizo posts getting translated over
They really are no different than the people cherry picking stuff to translate and post here.

>>50884632
>463
THE MOST

>>50884632
>840
kek, they really are just like us

>>50884632
>POG
I take offense with that. Should be “doriyaaaa”. Other than that, they’re on point

>>50884632
The anon that vandalized my edit by adding fucking Towa is getting dogpiled on by the nips. Must I say based? Based Behaviour desu.

>>50884865
Pretty sure elevens think POG is a cool gaijin term.

>>50884632
Are we actually the most?
Everytime /vt/ is mentioned in other websites they are mostly talking about /here/ and all those vt videos get their shit from here.

>>50884632
>897
fucking kek, spot on

Vox must have said some pretty heinous things because this is the worst day I've ever been here.

>>50884740
They're right. /#/ is an anti nest and it lacks class.

Quickest back pedal in the west

>>50884865
yeah i dont recall anyone using POG here or even in EN's streams (yeah i know they do it sometimes but its rare). Literally the place i see POG most is in Aqua's and Towa's streams

>>50884975
i mean, that kronii anti tweet on her tags came from a /#/nig anon...

>>50884963
Had nothing to do with vox the thread was shitting itself before his stream even started. But I did hear phase was having a yab

>>50884963
basically
>i'm a normie that only got into vtubing because it was popular
>i squeezed every penny out of my fans but now i'm scared cause numbers are low
>i wanna try new things, push the bounduaries (read: i wanna do facecam)

>>50885009
WAIT NVM, I realize im forgetting about nijiEN fags who spam that shit

>Global is anti thread
>Numbers is anti thread
>Catalog is made up from anti threads
>Even girl specific threads are anti threads
>Reddit is anti board as well
>All the discords are infiltrated and controlled by antis
>Antis swarm youtube comments
>Twitter is nothing but antis that never leave twitter
Where do holo fans live then?

>>50885009
Pretty sure Nijis use it all the time. So it's probably a Niji fan (Holoanti)

>>50885039
another yab?
Jesus man what's wrong with them?

>>50885061
inside our minds

>>50884740
It's funny because I both disagree and agree at the same time. Every company's antis and schizos do a run or two through /#/ every day, but people who use /#/ as a preferred general at least have the sense to argue by throwing sauce at each other.

>>50885046
Oh right, Luca or one of the boys was apparently obsessed with the word

>>50885035
I know.

>>50885035
That guy are holofes who was captured on camera watching laplus was originally from /#/ too.

>>50885071
>even a holoan is making fun of /#/
cannot make this shit up

>>50885009
Some fags tried to teach Nene pog before rest of eigo users in chat reacted to that and swarmed it with based, there are Twitch fags in holo audience but even today they are a vast minority to the sort that uses this site

>>50884963
Vox confirmed he's a grifter. Doesn't like vtubers or watches them. Doesn't want rape asmr to be his whole brand despite it being the main reason he has as much popularity as his does.

>>50885061
here

>>50885137
he wasn't, he really quickly backpedaled on that

>>50885137
I think he said that he wasn't a regular but that might just have been to save face

>>50884659
She literally said that in one of her Stray streams. If you think she wouldn't say that, you're a clueless retard.

>>50885104
You think numbers watch streams? The schizo/antis are this way, because they don't watch streams.

>>50885137
>>50885219
He said he posted in the thread because he saw his picture in the op on the catalog.

>>50885000
>The twitch infection is put off another day

>>50885259
...I said sauce, not streams. Y'know, chartwatching, clips, timestamps, occasional leaked documents or archived redacted ones, that sort of thing.

>>50885254
k

Personally I hope for Twitch to die slowly so the fragments that break off slowly wither away into nothing or get naturalized into their new environments rather than creating new holdouts

>>50885157
To be fair his brand was voice he added the homo asmr when he saw the money flow. Also he’s as much a grifter as every western vtuber. Gura Ina Kiara Mumei Fauna excluded of course

>>50885327
b-but THE SUBATHON ANON!

>>50885298
All of which are bullshit if it's a schizo or an anti who are posting them.

>>50885041
I pray he made big purchases that he wont be able to finance once the chink bucks dry up and loses everything.

>>50885345
Have already made its way to youtube. At least small corpos give people something to coom to.

>>50885157
Gonna need clips or timestamps of those.

>>50885391
Don't they usually end up having cuck content at the end?

>>50885061
in-between them
we are the organism and they are the cancer that plagues it

>>50885311
Open up for the spoonfeed newfag
https://www.youtube.com/live/7ciqVuADl5c?feature=share&t=419

>>50885426
Either this thread or one before someone posted the link and the transcripts.

>>50885459
That isn’t usually the plan just ends up that way. Jewra jacking you off, phase lewds, or the totally not lewd but definitely want to fuck kawaii style can still be enjoyed long as you didn’t donate

>>50884632
Just enjoy the lewdposting nipbros, there's not much else of worth here

>>50885426
here anonfagchama >>50876430

why cant the EN market be as big as JP? why is it always reclining?

>>50885426
https://youtu.be/ZqdEC8tirOo?t=2190
Vox saying he's a normie clipwatcher who doesn't watch vtubers

9:00
>I personally feel as though vtubing especially, is a very, sort of, there are really strong traditions within this creative spaces. [...] even though our obsession with tradition has enabled us to create a really strong community and family [...] what i worry about is that by following such strong traditions is that we lose the urge to innovate or make really scary changes.
11:00
>What I've recently been feeling is that my formula is really... not only do i feel like people are sort of organically losing interest, which is completely normal, and I shouldn't be sort of dooming about it but... I need to think of something new to do. And I need to change something in a way that's honest to myself.

rambles about some spider capeshit for an eternity

16:20
>recently I've been having a lot of nights where I wind up feeling very depressed and I'll walk out onto my balkony with a beer and wonder "will I ever be that happy again?". And I know that I won't unless I change something.

17:30
>It's difficult to pulls myself from this because it has worked so well in the past and still is working quite well. The thing is, I can't stop because this is my job

20:00
>I think I feel burnt out not with streaming as a whole, but with the never-ending race to release content.
21:00
>Let's think about this stream today, it's not necessarily clickbait, but I thought about just typing "Zatsudan: hey guys I'm back"
>Let's be honest, no one would... There wouldn't 5.5k people here, there might be 3k. A big part of content creation is sacrificing your common sense to reach a higher level of success.

>>50885367
Anon, verifiable facts are verifiable facts. Schizos who simply make shit up get called retards and slapped with what's verifiable. "It's bullshit because of who said it" is a uselessly over-encompassing mindset that just leads to the "nothing is ever true" dimension, which in turn actually makes you more susceptible to bullshit.

>>50885644
Because there's nothing holo JP on it

>>50884255
Lol.
He was fired?

The dragon is falling.

>>50885742
>2 years later and still top yonkisei
sasuga

>>50885742
it's over, clipwatchers are not vodwatchers

>>50883729
>Having to lock the Reddit down for tempoop debuts
This did not happen. T-chan did not HAVE to, he's just a complete fucking retard who decided it would be a good idea after his discord circlejerk said people were gonna complain. Hilariously, it backfiring so hard probably did serve as an actual wakeup call.

>>50885676
They should start speaking japanese. Then they would incline again

>>50885742
How many subs did Coco have prior to her graduation stream

>>50885803
At her peak she had 1,450,000 subscribers. That will make it over the 2 year mark for Watame to pass.

>>50883406
>CGDCT won
>Kronii and Ame turned into Homo collabers
>Tempus still exists, we got Tempus 2 before EN 3
>Now any collab featuring a Homocollaber is ruined
>Constant fear another girl might be lured into Homocollabing, IRyS hangs out with Bae and Mori so much
>Homobeggars have established a permanent foothold on the board and are slowly becoming the majority
We've won nothing.

>>50885964
Doomniggers get the rope

>>50883406
saplings really live in their own little bubble dont they

>>50885915
About 1.3M.

>>50885631
>>50885647
https://youtu.be/_CLKuqUz2Sg
Choco is correct. If you want to be a Vtuber, you need to be mentally strong

>>50885915
Coco's peak: 1.45M, lost 40k since then.
Rushia's peak: 1.61M, lost 170k since then.
Sana's peak: 405K and still inclining for some reason.

>>50886106
If you become a vtuber, you have to resist the urge of admitting the stuff you have done.

>>50886146
Before her graduation stream started, she had about 1.3M. She got about 100k subscribers over the next few days.

>Biggest star of his branch
>Completely free timeslot
>not even a SC reading stream

>>50886223
What is this? Zatsu?

>>50886223
1.5k is the homoEN 10K. The 3Ks are the 20Ks

>>50886241
probably

>>50885647
This niggerhomo thinks he's the steve jobs of vtubing, sucking his own dick and pretending he was the one to offset western popularity of vtubing because he and his friends pandered to chink and sea audiences, feels good to see the retard faggot fall off so hard
and of course he uses a fucking runescape analogy https://youtu.be/ZqdEC8tirOo?t=2366(embed)
fucking joke of a branch

>>50884255
kek

>>50883444
didn't mumei and gura say something like this? the numbers for their karaokes were large and scary so they just stopped looking at them

>>50885647
reminder that cover completely changed the direction of holoEN to chase after this faggot and his wavemates
tragic

>>50886338
How will he "show what's so great about" vtubing when he doesn't understand the appeal nor watch any vtubers?

>>50885733
Yeah, no reason stated either from the corpo, graduation stream at end of the month

>>50886338
well, he made cover do a male en branch so...

>>50886106
You need to have strong mind in order to be anyone of note in general, not only in order to withstand the opposition but in order to take the steps forward as well

>>50886474
in her first karaoke moom was consistently thrown off by just how many people she had watching despite the purposeful vagueness of the stream, and has generally continued that trend of ignoring the viewer count as much as she can

>>50885733
yes, reason probably stagnation, he couldn't grow anymore

>>50886146
Here a question about Rushia had she not gotten terminated how many subs would she have right now had she kept the sub growth that she had back then

>>50886608
Does Cover spend millions on market research like other companies? Because a quick glance should have shown them that NijiEN audience wasn't EN.

>>50886587
That's weird, wasn't he one of the most popular in his company and a founding member?

>>50886660
If that's the reason everyone else is fucked even harder

>>50886666
Probably 2 mil, her antics with others were legit funny.

list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Miria https://twitter.com/Miria_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Virgil https://twitter.com/Virgil_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

>>50886666
Around what Noel has maybe?

>>50886737
monkeybros...

>>50886666
Hard to tell but her growth was similar to Pekora's but with around 200k less subs, so I'd guess she would be at 2M now or close to it.

>>50886737
i think they will concentrate more on the jp branch, i saw them getting 5k ccv

>>50886712
he made a tweet saying he didn't want to graduate. so either the company is forcing him out or real life stuff is getting in the way and making him quit.

>>50886608
Maybe if Council didn't do as well as they expected, this wouldn't have happened.

>no EN streams except Calli's BIG ANNOUNCEMENT and timesmith raft
EN3 ANNOUNCEMENT SOON. DEBUT SUNDAY

>>50886819
Well, considering he had entire month already scheduled I kinda doubt it's anything from his side, he would definitely speak differently if it was the case

>>50886737
>Maha
They named a corpo after a character on the Amanda Show's trademark laugh?

>>50886840
Kaela has a collab with an En? I guess I'll have something to watch later

>>50886840
I BELIEVEEEEEEEE

>>50886666
Depends if people found out about the discord message or not. The incident didn't have much of an effect on her subscriber count. I think lots of people would subscribe to her because they feel bad if she got harassed. I also think that a stream with Kobo would help. Also since Rushia got terminated on the same day that Russia invaded Ukraine, I think many memes would be made, increasing her subscriber count. I think 2.05M would be a good estimate. Also with a full 3rd gen being there, Flare might have reached 1M earlier which would make 3rd gen the first JP gen to all reach 1M.

>>50886812
yeah 1 of them

>>50886939
He has more subs than all of them combined...

>>50886988
>sub cope

>>50886666
If the Discord notification still happened, I think growth would have slowdown for a bit. she would have been near 2m

Has any of the JP girls watched a monty python film, cause i feel like one of them did.

>>50887115
I think people would subscribe because they feel bad for her after she got harassed.

>>50880877
he was reclining for months now together with the rest of luxiem and niji EN as a whole. Ideas for "new content" he talks about don't really sound like breaking new grounds levels of novelty.
Thing is thanks to luxiem and their fujos niji EN told Western male fans to fuck off, their appeal to typical Vtuber fanbase outside of SEA is lower than it was back in 2021 because they dedicated everything to chase a fad within a fad that died down and they didn't learn from Cover's bili bili debacle. There was a lot of hubris involved with the downfall of niji EN both from management and talent side and it will be extremely hard for them to ever bounce back from this slump since their whole success was kinda fake in the first place, sisters were never going to stay for the long game and by trying to appeal to them they burned bridges with everybody else.

>>50886939(me)
miss one
and the interesting part is they have audision for Thailand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvwqxwqf1ho

>>50884255
kek

>>50887197
Thailand is the new Indonesia as far as the vtubing landscape goes. Biggest weakness for the market is less overall English knowledge so it'll be harder for them to pick up anything except native audiences.

>>50887144
After that wave of subscribers, it would slowdown a bit. waiting until people forget and some new Holocollabs would bring new subs

>>50887264
Especially with the ID gen 3 members. I think there was a pretty big amongers collab last year.

Minecraft update is out within next 24 hours!
Bets on all the cool and exciting things Kaela with do with hanging signs when it comes to making storage systems?

>>50887315
anon, still need like 1 week or 1 month to add it to the server

>>50887252
yeah i mean they the 2nd biggest market on SEA even this man incline hard this month

>>50887353
You have to consider that it's the update with sakura biome in it, surely this will make Cover staff do it's thing faster!

>>50887315
I play minecraft a lot and I didn't know that it was happening so soon. Maybe it's because I play on a multiplayer server so updates happen later.

>>50887252
Just means that whatever reaches and stays with the global audience is more universally memeable like Miko's GTA clip or Fubuki's Scatman.

>>50887310
She also seem to like doing Holodeath streams. Add a few early Kobo streams and a spice of Indo pandering and she would bounce back

>>50887409
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/trails-tales-update-coming
It has a bunch of noteworthy features, how noteworthy depends on what sort of servers you play but the unicode integration is probably the most niche and visible one depending on context

>>50887401
LoL

>>50887147
Funny that they literally fell for the trap almost every single company ever falls with regards to the chinese.
>1 BILLION POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS? Sign me the fuck in!
>our current customers? nah, fuck them, it's 1 billion customers
>*one chinese feelings hort later*
>oh well, that didn't work, let's go back to our previous market
>what do you mean nobody wants us anymore?

>>50887445
That's appealing because it's a cute Japanese girl doing it. Someone doing it in gobbledygook thai language is gonna be a much harder sell. Same reason it's been tough for Indonesian-only vtubers to get big until Kobo.

>>50886840
lots of EN streams this weekend, I don't think EN3 is this week

>>50887483
I play on 1 geopolitical server. That's all. I have played nearly every day for the past 3 years. It almost completely took over my life until I got a vtuber addiction too.

>>50886840
>Calli

>>50887539
They were never popular to begin with. They didn't sacrifice anything to pander to the Chinese because they didn't really have anything in the first place.

>>50887618
Anon, they legitimately had the "first male EN corpo vtubers" buff from a company that had good numbers over on the JP side.

>>50887699
uhm ackshually Tsunderia were the first EN corpo male debuts a month and a half before Luxiem.

>>50885061

>>50885061
You're just not looking for the uncles.

>>50885061
>All the discords are infiltrated and controlled by antis
Skill issue if you don't gatekeep those

>>50885061
>he doesn't know

>>50886744
just saw Mioris tweet about remaining active as far as Dec/Jan will probably remove her on the next reposting.

>>50887833
Kino of the highest order.

>>50887959
EN3 delayed until 2024

So what are the chances holo idol outfits are going to get OVERDRIVE MODO in the future?

>>50887959
>>50888003
imagine if EN3 is not happening because, on top of everything else, Bae is throwing fits because Miori isn't gonna be there

>>50888058
Y'all hate Bae but love Miori it seems

>>50885644
Everyone gets better in jp while everyone except gura gets worse in en.

>>50888058
Truly the most clouted up member of Holo EN, Hakos Baelz, able to stop entire gens from debuting on a whim.

>>50888087
i am indifferent to all of these chuubas in the list, i just maintain it.

>>50888072
This is the king of EN homos btw

>>50887820
ackshually no this man is first EN male vtuber

>>50888135
NijiEN(OG) I kneel

>>50885964
When you put it like that it’s understandable nobody watches en

>>50886840
>No EN streams
that’s like everyday

>>50888087
I don't have nay particular feelings on it.

>>50886474
Gura streams without viewers most of the time it must hurt to see how much better she is than her whore friends

>>50888132
Isn't that vesper?

Anyone have the latest graphanon graphs? Feels like I haven't seen one in a while so I probably missed it.

>>50885061
You think we’re just antis because we like to shit on other holos and cover. At the end of the day it’s
My Oshi>other holos>the whores of hololive=honorary holos> Cover>>>>>>>>>>>>trash>homos>shit>other vtubers>>>>>>>nijiniggers>vshowhores

>>50888024
They might just keep them as a base form. I bet they get a new idol costume every Holofes

are there really ~6k people who were there for just mimi? only 500 or so transferred to beni

>>50888058
If Bae has that kind of power then HoloEN is doomed anyway. At that point, I'd actually believe En3 is mixed.