/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>50562948
Anonlas! What do your schizo eyes see?

I will drop hololive for good if today's rrats turn out to be true

>>50562948
All. Out. War.

Its over bros....

>>50562948
She's on her period.

>>50562948
take your meds, or just kill yourself, honestly who cares

>>50563011
what rrats are these?

>>50563188
MIXED GEN

>>50562948
It's either they'll never play Outlast Trials ever again or EN3 is a mixed gen.

>>50563206
Never happening

>>50563188
merging of HololiveEN and HolostarsEN
EN3 and Tempus 3 are a mixed gen 3 for both branches

>>50563248
Anon, male and female Twitter for en is merging

>>50563854
Oh no!
Anyway.

>>50563223
With vesper as the killer everytime

>>50562948
1000% relate to holopro tweet

>>50563854
so, it's just like the hololivetv account then?

>>50563904
Except this is Hololive EN's main account that is merging with the homo shit even though they had the holopro account for that.

>>50563854
Its two seperate english hololive accounts, they both posted about homos. the one that's being deleted used to be en girls only until tempus came around, the one that's sticking around posts about all holopro talents, from all branches, and always has.
its not really a merger of male and female, its removing redundancy.

>>50563206
>>50563854
Tempus 3 and Tempus 4 might release in the next 2 years, and Council might be the last EN branch EVER released, but mixed gen is on thing that I can GUARANTEE you will not be coming to Hololive.
The sheer logistics of such a shift, when JP, EN and ID girls are so interconnected yet separate from the homos, is something that most small brained EOP shitposters do not consider.
Fan outrage is - as always - a secondary concern.

>>50562948
She woke up to Ame furiously fondling her Kiaras.

>>50562948
Maybe, kiara is not that bad after all...

>>50563255
I refuse to believe this.
I enjoy watching a few of the Tempus boys, but theres just no fucking way management is this dumb to think the dedicated fanbases of EITHER side would be ok with this.
Add onto the fact that more than half the girls already don't acknowledge the boys, and the boys dont mention the girls outside the ones who they have collabed with, tells me this is a management decision.

>>50564335
The management is lazy rrat is real at least. I don't know about this being a culture war but it kinda confirms that EN management would rather streamline everything through a single medium rather than have a separate account for different people.

Just start doing your reps. Korone gets funnier the more JP you learn.

>>50564021
I think it might be a sub branch, perhaps under the TEMPUS banner, hence them wanting to mix EN into 1 branch that way technically the mixed gen wouldn't be hololive but holopro.

>>50564386
Recommending Korone to someone who is doing reps is a bit evil, just have them watch Subaru instead. Speaks cleanly and is very easy to listen to

They aren't going to do a mixed gen.
Management already tells them to keep to themselves (both sides) unless they have collabed.
Tempus doesn't acknowledge anyone in EN outside of Kronii, Mori, Ame, and Bae.
HoloEN doesn't acknowledge anyone in Tempus unless they've collabed before.
It's been this way for almost a year now. They aren't going to change it.
Plus it would be super awkward to have to start acknowledging them NOW after a year has passed anyways.

>>50564386
Don't pay attention to above. It's still 90% humor for children. These guys like to sell it as if you would a trascendental understanding of their complex humor or something but really for all the holos is just the same mainstream dumb reaction humor than any other streamer (some may be quirky and actually add more things to their characters). Also being in hololive they're very scared of expressing any actual opinion on a game quality that isn't positive or try to analyze the story of a game most of the times.

>>50564192
She's the last unicorn...

>>50562948
Please be a mixed gen. I don't care about unicorns or homobeggars, I just want to see /vt/ implode.

>>50564912
/vt/ cares about EN aside from cooming to Gura?

>>50564021
It doesn’t matter what JP and ID do. Someone gave the head manager of the EN branch too much power and he’s hellbent on pushing his social agenda.

>>50564912
I know you don't actually mean this, because you'd be to busy watching twitch to post here.

>>50562948
This is why I despise this dumb bitch. She knows what she's doing stirring shit up among fans with her vague posting. The only thing that's going happen is that twitter account will also shill the faggots that's it. There won't be no mixed gen everything will continue as normal. Why is she like this.

>>50565017
You know why anon, the age old, the timeless the o'l reliable, the one and only MEMEME

>>50564335
>Add onto the fact that more than half the girls already don't acknowledge the boys
What? More than half the girls have collabed with the boys and everyone but 1 has acknowledged them

>>50564858
That's my biggest gripe with JSL weebs: they treat the Japanese language as some sort of ancient sacred language, and any content in it is automatically of highter quality than in any other language. You don't see this kind autism among 2L learners of other modern languages, like German, Spanish, or even Mandarin Chinese. Shit, even nerds who learn Latin and Ancient Greek usually present themselves with more chill and humility than JSL snowflakes.

>>50564335
>this dumb
Your problem is not being able to understand the psychology of these people.

Without being too lengthy, in their minds they are the champions of the universe who 'made' gawr gura and mori calliope. All the bad decisions flow from there because rather than understand that holoen was the product of a specific period of time that can't be replicated they (and, seemingly, yagoo) believe them to be geniuses.

So they waited a year to shit out a one woman generation (Hope) and then a month to shit out gen 2 (Council) which was full of people like Bae (eager to male collab) or Kronii (thinks idols are stupid). A year passes and we get StarsEN, then we get another StarsEN generation 'by popular demand' (in their minds it was demanded because clearly they can never be wrong).

Most of the management was probably hired because they were english speakers who could speak (?) japanese or had a master's degree from some pozzed american university.

So they will keep making SHIT decisions until they literally bankrupt the branch or someone in Japanland who speaks english decently realizes "these people are actual morons" and curbs their ability to do stupid shit like the pee pee game or male on female collab action like nijien.

>>50562948
>Who will be the General E. Lee of Hololive?
>Who will be the Stonewall Jackson of Hololive?
>Who will be the General Sherman of Hololive?
>Who will be the General Grant of Hololive?
>Who will be the Abraham Lincoln of Hololive?
>Who will be the John Wilks Booth of Hololive?

>>50565107
>More than half
>4.
Math is hard for the retard.
>>50565128
ogey

>>50565243
>>4.
anon...

>>50562948
The chimkins will rise again!

>>50565286
After they finish their 5th burger...maybe

>>50565128
>in their minds it was demanded because clearly they can never be wrong
>taking everything at face value
"by popular demand" was a euphemism for "we demand that they be popular and right now they're flopping hard. Hurry up and let them leech"

>>50565286
Sure he's going rise to heaven from a heart attack

>>50565281
Cant even reply correctly, hand-eye coordination is shot as well. Hes falling apart. Putting that aside...
Lemme guess...
>Ina - Bad End Night
>Mumei - Stars collab
Mumeis collab wasn't with Tempus, so I'm still correct with an at best 5 count. 5 is not more than half.

I already told you guys, give them an inch they will swallow hologirls
first it was the no overlap on stars / any new gen debut and 3D debut
then include them on some New year countdown program, after that giving them the HOLOLIVE EXPO tour POV and more to come

>>50564858
> t. EOP

>>50564958
All debuts go through JP management anon, so that's not gonna happen. Overall company branding is important, even in side branches.

>>50564403
That will catch flak from HOLOSTARS fans.
But then again, they aren't that many.
Also debuting under "Holostars" as a girl? Just write them off from the rest of Hololive entirely, they might as well be from a different company.

>>50563854
But they are still called hololive productions, no?

>>50562948
Can't wait for her forced Tempus collab. Those KFP tears will be delicious

>>50565490
It's over bros....

>50565761
You beggars are infinitely more disgusting than the incels.

>>50565651
There aren't many h*moshart fans but there are a fuckton of homobeggars who tread vtubing as yet another platform for their ebin culture war and they want male collabs just to "own the hecking incels", these are the people pushing Tempiss and male collabs predominantly and unfortunately they have a large voice and the worst part of it is that Cover is too retarded to realize these people aren't real fans and won't stick around once they've completely bastardized their former idol company to appease them.

>>50565761
I'm not even a KFP and I would hate it if they did that. Why won't they fucking leave her alone? She's a successful money maker to the branch so why are they trying to hamper her success?

>>50563255
that would be the best thing holo has ever done so far, if thats true i might turn from an occasional viewer to a full on obsessive fan

>>50565128
>>or someone in Japanland who speaks english decently realizes "these people are actual morons"
>mfw a-chan is getting more fluent in english for this very reason

>>50565806
I'm not begging. I'm just stating it would be funny

>>50562948
Yeah, sorry anons. I snuck in her room for surprise buttsex and she woke up to 3 years worth of cum in her.

All I'm seeing here are insecure people weak of heart and weak of ego. So weak a pixel of a male image that is not them, let alone a full body one boils their blood.

Prove me wrong.

>>50565820
Beggars couldn't give less of a shit about the girls' opinions. They started with the cope that they don't collab with the homos because of incel pressure but when more and more of them just told these faggots to fuck off they got increasingly more schizo to the point they actually want Cover to become go straight up black company and force the girls to collab with the homos. For them it's not about giving a chance to the homos anymore, it's now a culture war where they're more concerned in making vtubing completely toxic to anyone who even dares to be apathetic towards male vtubers.

>50565919
Oh yeah, super funny to beg for a corpo to be abusive to their employees.

>>50566002
Kronii single-handedly proved that male collabs inevitably lead to more than "just two people talking"

>>50566058
Pray tell what was "more"?

And no, your deluded conclusions dont count.

>>50566105
>pretending the laugh didn't happen
>pretending the underwear tweet didn't happen

>>50566042
The problem is that apathy immediately becomes this bloodlust to eliminate them all for "defying the sanctity of cee gee dee cee tee"

Remember what God burned Sodom and Gomorrah for.

>>50566002
can't prove wrong the truth

>>50566150
Oh I'm not pretending anything. The *laugh* only became an issue to your ilk.

>Gabe

Heh. Of course.

>>50566168
It becomes a bloodlust when they try to force the homos down the throats of anyone who just doesn't care. Why Cover doesn't just make a HolostarsEN account? StarsJP has theirs and they never tweet anything Hololive related unless it involve one of the Stars, while both the HololiveJP and the EN accounts post a bunch of shit of the homos even when it's only about them. Why can't a Hololive-only fan have a place to only get news from Hololive? Why every time there's a Holomem who straight up says she's not interested in collabing with the homos it feels like beggars intensify their begging, almost like they're acting that a "no" is a "maybe"? Unicorns can be extremely schizo about this, but don't fucking dare to ignore how much of an eyesore beggars and homoshills became in the last 10 months acting like anyone who doesn't watch their boys religiously is an incel who isn't welcome in the vtuber "community". Shit was perfectly fine with Hololive and Holostars separated, collabing once or twice per month and growing their own fanbases separately, so why this shit has to be different in EN?

>>50564192
Kiara maybe is not bad, but KFP...
They're often found in the wild as either containment breakers or homobeggars. It’s weird to see a girl who has insisted many times that she has no interest in collabing with Stars and still getting an SC about it, by her own member nonetheless.

>>50564958
The head manager is JEnma you're thinking of Jap who is the producer.

>>50566213
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>50566168
CGDCT literally is ruined just by males being in it. it's like saying you must be inclusive of salt and pepper when making cupcakes, and throw in a big handful of it "to be fair" and claim it's better this way and you're a prejudiced bigot if you don't like it. Meanwhile out at the bakery storefront suddenly people stop buying the gross ass salty cupcakes, but the meddling cook at the back does not care because now the customers are also wrong if they don't like it either.

It's the fundamental thing that causes get woke go broke syndrome, the inability to tell that you're harming the brand for the sake of proselytizing something that wasn't actually needed or relevant for the product. People don't like being talked down to and commanded to do shit or think certain ways, certainly not by random other strangers at that.

>>50566325
Newton's Third Law. Actions reap an equal and opposite reaction. Maybe rein in your horned horses better. Then you maybe wouldnt see the "homobeggars" you hate so much.

Its so wild that schizos here just make things up in their heads and fully believe its the truth for extended periods of time. Its unironic schizophrenia.
Please seek mental help.

>>50565761
There won't be no kfp tempiss Collab. You shit skins blowing this out of proportion. The only thing that's going to change is that twitter account to handle both hololive and holostars talent. There's no mix branch merge. Stop smoking crack.

>>50566150
And?

>>50566469
>People don't like being talked down to and commanded to do shit or think certain ways, certainly not by random other strangers at that.
It goes both ways. Just as people complain about mixed collabs and tell the the talents to stop, the talents get pissed.

>>50566591
So the answer is to stop watching them out of the blue without telling them? Just let them wonder why the fuck so many people leave in silence?
Because I recall Kiara being depressed by that kind of silent drop in views sometimes after the covid event.

>>50566487
This doesn't make any fucking sense. Beggars existed since the early beginnings of the EN fanbase, before Myth ever debuted, with cunts like oboretai spreading the cope that the girls don't collab with the homos because of "muh incels" and never EVER entertaining the thought that maybe they just don't want to, acting they would all collab with those 3view failures if it wasn't their fanbases. The Stars had practically 0 active antis after the first round of them back when they debuted StarsJP1, and people were fine as long as they stayed in their lane barely collabing with Hololive, but Tempus literally changed all of this by having watchalongs on the HoloLIVE EN youtube channel, having their collab ban lifted early exclusively for HoloEN and ID, having a twitter created just for them disguises as an general EN account, a fucking new gen debuting in record time for any of the foreign branches. If you think all of this bullshit wouldn't piss off the people who just wanted to watch the girls and are fine ignoring the homos then you're just as pathetic as the unicorns wanting the Stars branch to be nuked HoloCN style, but considering your tone you definitely have the stench of a beggar.

>>50566763
Kiara is a numberfag any drop in number will depress her.

>>50566763
>So the answer is to stop watching them out of the blue without telling them?
Yes. Unironically. I'm not even joking.
>Just let them wonder why the fuck so many people leave in silence?
Because I recall Kiara being depressed by that kind of silent drop in views sometimes after the covid event.
I don't know if it's "that many people" but yeah. Shitting up a storm isn't helping anybody because it's not really a big of a deal as people make it out to be. No Collab is corpo-mandated unless it's a concert or it's a sponsorship. They do it of their own free will just as when they don't wanr mixed Collabs.

>>50566806
Then the people that care (or used to care) about her should tell her what she's doing wrong when they leave.

>>50566591
keeping with the cupcakes analogy, the bakers were assumed by the customers to know that they were hired to make cupcakes and that the company they work for was made famous specifically and only for those cupcakes and that salt and pepper do not go into cupcakes.

so if a customer sees a baker chucking handfuls of salt and pepper into the dough he probably isn't wrong to go "ooh, that's why they taste awful lately, wtf are you doing man" and the baker here is proud of his ignorance. this is where the shop owner ought to step in and correct him but clearly that is the missing step, the management isn't catching the fundamental structural error and quite obviously doesn't know what it's doing. it's going "you know, maybe cupcakes ought to have salt and pepper in them after all. if anyone customers complain then ban them from the store." it is, all so fucked up.

>>50566959
I dunno, to me being angry is by far a less painfull experience than being depressed. It also tends to get away quicker.

>>50566959
And ignore all the beggars who are almost outright harassing the girls about collabing with the homos with superchats, vod comments, clip comments, always mentioning the homos when the girls start talking about kouhai? The fuck is this double standard?

>>50566959
>Yes. Unironically. I'm not even joking.
No it's not. If people just would silently stop drinking bud light they wouldn't get hit that bad. It's important that people voice their opinion.

>>50563188
There are none.

>>50563255
That would be the dumbest move ever made. It’d full on kill the EN branch.

>>50566150
men are just funnier, you can't really blame her

>>50567039
Agreed

>>50566959
>Yes. Unironically. I'm not even joking.
Goddamn you're dumb.
>Shitting up a storm isn't helping anybody
Shitting up a storm isn't about helping people it's about punishing them for doing something wrong. A lot more storm-shitting is needed.

>>50567908
They've been killing the EN branch for a long time now. It's in its death throes. Wouldn't surprise me if they just finish it off at this point.

>>50565137
>Think this will be some retarded burger fantasy
>Instead They will get Marvel cuck fanfiction
Hope thanos wins.

>>50564907
Gura? Fauna? Mumei? Ina? IRyS?

>>50568551
That would honestly be depressing. They had success handed to them on a silver platter with Gen 1, and instead of keeping the momentum going they just let it stagnate.

>>50569055
Cover let Luxiem's early chink success live rent free inside their heads to the point they greenlit all this bullshit thinking they would get the same kind result, but they failed spectacularly to the point fucking Kyo is mogging most of the homos nowadays. I really wish this decision to drop the HoloProEN twitter is just a temporary measure to clean house and streamline things until they get their plan sorted out and maybe finally making a StarsEN only twitter, and that the whole mixed gen rrat is just people here overreacting and the idea never crossed their heads, specially after Iluna and Xsoleil pretty much flopped save from a few standout talents.

>>50566002
>Inb4 tl;dr
If you refuse to read other viewpoints and just simple cope by replying "seethe", you're worse than a subhuman for refusing to participate in a serious discussion

>weak of heart and weak of ego
It's actually quite the opposite, in fact, they remain stedfast on their convictions and reject psyops trying to change them.
Imagine this scenario
>go to burger place your frequent
>order a cheeseburger
>cook adds fried fish to it for some reason?
>you get told "yeah we added that as a bonus, enjoy"
>instead of taking it like a soiboi, you turn it back and tell them to "remake the burger properly, without any other extras, or you're losing a customer"
>some restaurants acquiesce and keep their customer base, others don't and watch as theirs shrinks
And because this gonna be laughed at for le >food analogy, have another one
>order premade office chair from company
>it gets delivered, but in the middle of the seat, right where your asshole will be sitting on is a massive 10 inch dildo, with a note next to it saying "enjoy ;)"
>'unicorns' call the company demanding they take the chair back and bring them a proper one, or they'll lose them as customers
>the small minority of homobeggars, on the other hand, are delighted, and take the dildo up their ass all the way to the base, then spam positive reviews through their 20 smart fridges (also equipped with dildos) to make the "modification" seem more popular than it is
>company watches as they lose thousands of customers while their sales are dropping, despite the apparent large number of good reviews
Point is, numbskull, the boys aren't why we're here for, them collabing with our girls is not what we're here for, and we are not open to it. The boys can be the most entertaining streamers on the planet or absolute dickheads, it doesn't matter. Most people don't have any personal problems with the males (except the support the cause guy), they just don't belong in the types of streams we're here for.
If you want your voice to matter and make it seem like crossgender collabs are wanted by viewers, maybe instead of screeching about incels here and on twitter, you should watch those collabs, as well as the girls and the boys who participate in them. Instead, every streamer that has done these collabs has seen a drop or absolute stagnation in their viewership, meaning you beggars don't actually support with actions what you're suggesting with words.
Put your money and time where your mouth is, or don't speak at all.

>>50569653
They won't. The co-ed collabs created a kind of audience who exclusively watches these kinds of streams and couldn't care less about any other type of content. They don't care about solo streams, female/male only collabs, orisongs, covers, shorts, literally nothing.

>>50565017
>Why is she like this.
How else would she remind people that she exists?

>>50569653
>>the small minority of homobeggars, on the other hand, are delighted, and take the dildo up their ass all the way to the base, then spam positive reviews through their 20 smart fridges (also equipped with dildos) to make the "modification" seem more popular than it is

Isn't the perfect analogy that they write positive revues when they actually never bought the chair?

>>50566496
The only way to solve the problem with this board is to have flags, or flags with post IDs.
Because while it could drain any discussion into an Ad Hominem, it's also the ultimate solution since low quality posts will just dilate out of the sheer sight of where the anon making the baits is coming from.

But of course, hiromoot doesn't have the balls to do it.

Remember: Fan demand

>>50562964
She was woken up by her cats biting her. This rarely happens hence WHAT THE FUCK

>>50570348
Can't wait for every second post to be "your country sucks hurdur", followed by 10 "nah, yours is so shit xD". Glorious times ahead.

Having a mixed gen would be a good thing. Fans of mixed collabs would have some vtubers they could latch onto and obsess over, and the rest of the fanbase could continue enjoying their oshis in peace. A win for everyone.

>>50564973
Who unironically watches Twitch these days lmao

>>50568830
those are larping

>>50566002
No one cares, watch your homos or fuck off stop trying to fuck up other people's content.

I hope the implosion on /vt/ will be entertaining for at least a few minutes.

>>50570830
It's literally a win for no one. What will happen to the MC server? Talent organized tournaments? HoloSummer? HoloFes? A mixed gen implies they're at least somewhat united so seeing them having to be separated in all these events will stuck out like a sore thumb and I can already see the beggars demanding Cover to change the entire structure of the agency to accommodate this retarded idea which would only go against the core fanbase who does not care about the homos. If debuting 8 faggots in 6 months and leaving EN to wilt without a new gen was already an insane idea a mixed gen has a chance of creating a true schism in the fanbase and the last thing Cover needs right now is a catastrophic event when they just invested millions of dollars into a new studio.

>>50570348
nah we just need ID'ed posts. That would be helpful.
>>50562948
>anons stirring shit up due to another tweet of Ms. Takanashi Vagueposting
sisters...

>>50570330
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and assumed they actually do watch coed collabs, though that may or may not be truly the case

>>50570678
The only people who have problem with this is because they're from SEA or another shitty country

>>50571800
Some of us want to talk about chuubas. Sounds crazy I know.

>>50566806
Then why does she keeping streaming crappy JRPGs?

>>50562948
How many times is this board going to implode itself over a vague Kiara tweet? I bet her Hello Fresh delivery is late or something along those lines.

KFP are mentally ill.

>>50566781

>Practically zero antis

Tell that to Miyabi and his meds. That your models in JP necessitated. And no, you dont get to be all macho and say "toughen up fag".

>>50569653
Talents are not product, they're humans.That complaint part would've worked if it was anything other than human interaction and was said nicely. But you mfs cant take no for an answer and drum up a shitstorm about it and bitch about it like your martyr saint Gabe. And really, homoposting? Hah.

Concession acepted.

>>50571800
And I have a problem with pompous privileged first-worlders thinking they're all that because they from a G20 nation or some hot shit.

>>50572371
Read the rest of the post, you fucking brainlet. The antis practically disappeared after their debut week and even when Cover rescinded the collab ban with Hololive 3-ish months after it they didn't come back.

>>50572725
>But you mfs cant take no for an answer
Like you beggars who can't stop shitting on the girls who said they won't collab with them? Are you really ignoring how people are still mad about Kanata? Or the cunts mentioning Tempiss when Kiara talked about new EN gens? Or when IRyS or Fauna talk about kouhai you faggot always show up with "but muh homos"? The lack of self-awareness from the beggars is truly astounding.

>>50565825
Luv me cat

>>50570485
Vesper seems like a gigachad who exposes the truth behind the mental gymnastics occurring in women's brain's, especially for EN being unstable westoids.

>>50573314
>gigachad
>first public announced suspension since the Taiwan yab
>the whole Japan schizo arc
Yeah, he sure is a "gigachad".

>>50572725
>they're humans
that are selling their personalities shown on streams as product, through interactions with chat, interactions with games, interactions with other streamers. In other words, the streams are the products.
Chat is the customer and they will pay to watch stuff they like. The Hololive model has been girls-only interactions since 2019,it saw massive success and it stuck. Therefore, a certain fanbase has been cultivated that expects specific streams from streamers associated with the brand. On the other hand, streamers that have tried to pivot to include girl-boy collabs, partly of their own desire and partly as a push from management, have seen a decline in viewership. As a business, this is not ideal for Cover, and as streamers, loss on viewership means lose in revenue. They can choose to collab with whomever they want (company permission acquired first) and suffer the financial loss of they think it's worth it/they'll make it up elsewhere, or they can continue to follow the tried and true model of cgdct.
>But you mfs cant take no for an answer and drum up a shitstorm about it and bitch
Oh you mean like the people who constantly beg the EN girls to collab with the Stars even after being explicitly said no? The same people who harassed Kanata after she categorically refused to associate with male vtubers on streams? Look at a mirror, reflect upon the actions the side you support has taken and then make comments about others.
Hololive viewers are resolute, you collab with male chuubas you lose us as customers. Demand and supply. If you don't supply, we'll go elsewhere. Most people won't even complain that much, you see a minority of unicorns schizoing out and ignore the thousands that leave quietly. Meanwhile, all 300 coed supporters are active and vocal about their preferences, despite contributing little to the financial stability of those they "support".
>martyr saint Gabe
I think that's a kronie? Heard the name talked about before, dunno what he said and don't care. Our views may or may not align, but kronies are schizos in general so I'm relactant to say I agree with whatever you're implying he said.
>Concession
Doko? This is like /thread-ing your own post

There's no civil war. They just told them all that Gura is graduating

>>50573467
NTA but what I understand about Gabe is he was a namefag in Kronii's split and when she started doing Tempus collabs he declared himself king of the unicorns and tried to lead a charge to force her to stop but just got himself banned instead.
He's basically the model that falseflaggers emulate to try and make it seem like everybody who doesn't like Tempus is a deranged unicorn.

>>50564572
keep coping. Mixed gen is the only answer as to why they merged those two official Twitter account

>>50572875
Double seething Yous. Holy shit ahahahahahahah

RE: Miyabi

By that time, they've done their job. They've closed off the lucrative Holobox to the Stars and made sure they kept that gun pointed at them ever since. Only recently JPStars have decided to ignore the gun and even then its just on a select few.

RE: Kanata

I don't know what exactly was the fallout, but they aren't seething exactly at the girl, but at those enforcing those ideas. Again, proverbial gun to their head. "Dont come near them or else". Fans are here to better their talent, not stagnate them as a person. Help them overcome their fears, their misconceptions. Not enforce it for our own egos.

RE: Kiara

Have you forgotten what happened the last time you mfs tried to hold Kiara to the same standard Gura does? Here, lemme paraphrase what she thought about that:

"That's...that's bullshit, why do you have to pretend they don't exist? Did they hurt you, have they done anything to you?"

And then before that she called to support the then-debuting HQ.

"But she was just being a corpodrone!"

Copium. She just felt even if she wasnt gonna collab anytime soon, she felt supporting them at least was the right thing, being the first of her kind herself.

this thread gave me cancer

>>50574069
Nta but kiara said altare a dumbass(without saying his name) for undermined her hard work for a year to be the first to collab with nijien pomu. Of course it on mem.

>>50564572
To be fair this could be an attempt to reduce harassment for those who want to collab with males

>>50569653
Why is it so difficult to just not watch if it doesnt entertain you. Watch someone else. It's not like you ordered anything, you didnt pay for anything and there's no dildo on a chair. You are seething about a person on the internet doing content you do not enjoy and instead of watching content you do enjoy, you are begging people to change. I literally do not care about the homos and havent watched a single stream where one of them was present. It's not that difficult. Just close the stream and watch something else.

>>50563206
It's time for HoloEN to die. It was fun while it lasted.

>>50574069
The way your formatted your post makes you look like a huge faggot. First theres literally no box for the Stars, no matter how much they try to get in. The Holobox wants to watch girls and only a minuscule minority is fine with the homos, to the point that the only growth the dudes get by collabing with the girls is a few hundred more subs that day and that's about it. There's no way for any significant overlap between the fanbases and the gun in the head mataphor makes fuck all sense when Roberu and Astel are growing faster than the other homos by going outside of this box and bringing new fans who want to watch them, but that would go against your beggar argument. With Kanata you genuinely don't fucking know what the fuck you're talking about but just throw "Kanata male collab" on youtube and read the comments of whatever clip you get. A considerable amount of people aren't attacking those enforcing these ideals but Kanata herself for daring to enforce them, ignoring how she's a huge idolfag, but I guess that also goes against your beggar argument. And you're completely missing the point with Kiara who even if she gave her support to Tempiss she also explicitly said she wasn't interested in collabing with them and when she talked about HoloEN being held back by the lack of new members your kind started spamming "how abut muh boys" when everyone fucking knows what the hell she was taking about, but once again that goes against your beggar argument. I don't know man, it looks like you're hellbent in making the girls collab with the homos because you're drinking from the same fountain oboretai drank with those retarded arguments, or maybe you're the cunt yourself.

>>50564907
>>50568830
It's like that old movie, the last samurai.
Kiara is tom cruise.
Fauna is katsumoto.
Mumei is nobutada.
Irys is ujio.
Ina is bob.
I am taka.
And Gura is taka's son.

This thread is a whole lot of nothing about a tweet about nothing.

>>50574606
YWNBJ

>>50562948
Let me translate into autist-speak

EN management once again failed to secure permission for a game or activity she had her heart set on.

>>50574685
We'll see about that
I still think it's about her live appearance today

>>50574602
Starting with an ad hom? And ending with another?

Concession.
Accepted.

>>50574874
Either that or she got called out by management for talking about double standards

>>50575224
Not like I ever had hopes in changing the opinion of a homobeggar faggot, but you really play the role of it perfectly. It's like you want to represent the stereotype.

>>50574864
I WILL BECOME JAPANESE
Through the SHEER POWER OF MY WILL
Nothing will stop me NOTHING DO YOU HEAR?
I WILL BECOME JAPANESE

>>50572812
>they from a G20 nation
G20 is a fucking joke when indogs is also a part of it

>>50570678
It'd be enough if posts from sea get flagged as sea or if sea just got rangebanned.

>>50575317
Con
Ces
Sion

Acce
Pted

>>50563854
No it's not you retard.
There was never a male hololive twitter

>>50575396
Just proves my point.

>>50566150
I don't like homo collabs either but Gabe legit belongs in a nuthouse.

>>50574602
Ain’t nobody reading that shit

>50575536
Not only a faggot but a retard as well. Nice to know this is the kind of people who want to make co-ed collabs mandatory.

>50575634
Not like I expected beggars to have enough brain cells to know how to read.

>>50575499
>if sea just got rangebanned.
Retarded SEAniggers are too dumb to setup adblocker and that's good for ads, so it won't happen.

>>50562948
ME ME ME ME ME ME!

>>50566002
Mixing vtubers of different gender makes no sense from any point of view. It's very simple.
Vtubers are just streamers with an avatar. Why do they need an avatar? To be more attractive, to provide something of a girlfriend experience and whatnot, something more close and intimate than regular streamers. That on itself is not exclusive to vtubers of course, but it's hardly a case with male streamers. Male streamers seldom care about looking pretty, they usually attract viewers by the content they produce. Why would a male streamer want an anime avatar? Most likely to be more attractive.
Now, who is attracted to males, anime or not? Usually gays and females. And logically, female vtubers attract normal males and maybe gay females. There, we have two fanbases with polar opposite interests. One is not interested in the other's content and vice versa. And even more, they could see attempts of mixing them as a betrayal of sort. "My virtual girl/boyfriend is together with a character of different gender" is not the narrative they would want to see. Even more so if the streamers start getting close to each other.
You could make a point that for some reason streamers themselves would want to make the mix happen, but the last point still stands, fans will not be happy with this. Streamers are actors, and as an actor you gotta play your role to the end or face the consequences of breaking character. You don't change horses at the crossing.
So to summarize, fans are unhappy, leading to possible drops in income, making business unhappy, which in return makes streamers unhappy as well. No one wins from this.
Just let male and female vtubers to their own audience. They do not mix well and can go boom.

>>50566002
They can do what they want, and I'll respect it. But the fact of the matter is they will perform worse. The audience for the males spend more time talking about more mixed collabs instead of actually watching and supporting the guys. Catering to that crowd is the absolute antithesis of growth. Owning the chuds is a retarded business move if there's no financial benefit, and it instead just further pushes your decline.

>>50572067
She's retarded

>>50572812
And everytime some natural catastrophic event happens in your shit hole is us first worlder who send help ingrate.

>>50562948
she just stepped on a piece of glass from a pickle jar that she dropped on the floor in the middle of the previous night, than realized she forgot to put the milk that she just bought in the fridge, than ate expired salami that gave her food poisoning.

oh wait that was me

>>50574037
>Schizo who listens to voices in his head wrote this.

>>50574543
>Why is it so difficult to just not watch if it doesnt entertain you. Watch someone else.
That is what me and thousands of others have done. I was a HoloJP fan that gave EN a try when Myth exploded for their first year. Then, when they imploded last year, along with the appearance of Stars, I dropped them and I now almost exclusively watch HoloJP. This is not a good argument for you, however. As I said in the post you replied to, people like me were paying customers that left the EN branch when they did not supply what we demanded. On the other hand, coed collab beggars demand, then do not consume the supply, leaving the talents with just the cost, along with the previous loss of customers. This is my argument.
>It's not like you ordered anything, you didnt pay for anything and there's no dildo on a chair.
But I did pay and I did order. Minimally, of course, by joining memberships, but other that spent thousands on SCs and merch, encouraging and supporting the girls that followed the cgdct model. Then, a few of them decided to "dildo on chair" us by collab ing with males, so we left.
>You are seething about a person on the internet doing content you do not enjoy and instead of watching content you do enjoy,
>you are begging people to change.
Again, you mean like the people who insist on bringing up the Stars to the girls at every opportunity, or even unprompted, the same people who demand girls change their streaming model to include males?
You are fundamentally misunderstanding the situation here. Not collabing with males has been the standard, collabing with them is the change. We are asking them *not to* change, coed collab supporters are asking them to change. Learn what you're talking about before you open your mouth again.
>Inb4 but HoloJP used to collabs before
Yes, for about a year, then realised that model wasn't viable, switched to "idol mode", saw massive success and made it into the standard. It is the EN side that is trying to change back into the male collab model. It didn't work the first time and it isn't working now, which is why people are resisting this change.

>>50562948
Classic liberal
>WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEE??????

>>50566439
Gabe's only right is to neck himself.

>>50568830
All grifters, Kiara is the only true unicorn friendly EN

>>50568830
retired, hypocrite, ogey, cunt, based

>>50579758
You still can't be friends not just with fauna but Irys as well.

I dont want my hololive girls streaming with boys. Indies etc can do whatever, twitch chuubas can too.

I kinda hope the mixed gen rrat is real just to watch /vt/ explode.

Cover is sick of the EN female talents besides Kiara all just being lazy as fuck and never streaming, so they're hiring more males

>>50580097
that's okay, I'm already deeply in love with her anyway

>50580469
>50580618
Beggars truly are Hololive antis

>>50580866
always have been

>>50580866
Well, it was obvious.

>>50563206
>>50563255
>>50564021
Actual retards.

>>50580469
>>50580618
>>50580866
Same person, btw.
Still trying, sis?

>>50575536
Come back when you finish high school, this is no place for 6th graders

>>50575902
The avatar is meant to be a muppet, dumbass

>same women defending homo collabs complain of trannies at their dyke bars

>>50581338
I've finished college, what then?

>>50566487
> Action : Holo girl tells homobeggars that she will never collab with homos.
> Reaction : Homobeggars expose themselves as Holoantis

>>50574602
> The way your formatted your post makes you look like a huge faggot.
It's a redditor, check the double spacing.
Not like you can talk, you need a few of these in your post as well, here -
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>>50581575
And your point is?

>>50570830
every mixed gen I've ever seen from niji down to small corpos has done horribly. the people who watch guys and the ones who watch girls don't like them. that only leaves the retards begging for mixed gens who only watch sometimes if they watch at all

>>50582068
that's technically not reddit spacing, reddit spacing is a DOUBLE line break in 4chan because it results in a single line break on Reddit. only complete idiots or newfags would think 4chan never used linebreaks at all

>>50570485
why use a 7s soundpost when you can summarize it in a single png?

>>50581134
why did you quote me?
read the actual text first you fucking retard

>>50582205
I'm talking about this post anon >>50574069

>>50582208
what does that mean? did a fan actually complain or is just aggregate numbers were down?

>>50582306
Oh you're right then, I'm an idiot who can't follow reply chains. I still think the idea behind it is solely about big paragraphs of text and I'd probably line break if I was doing a fake script or something too

>>50573401
Telling management to go eat a dick is based

>>50565017
It’s hilarious how self sufficient your seethe for her is. She’s streaming soon and I can almost guarantee that she’ll bring this tweet up and then tell some dumb story of about how she woke up confused because her cats or neighbors did something stupid. Meanwhile, you already crapped your diapers over her imaginary actions. Kek.

>>50571487
>What will happen to the MC server?
that's your first concern? christ. I thought you were going to point out real fucking problems If that's the worst you can can come up with then it doesn't sound bad at all.

>>50582380
Single line breaks (+the occasional double) and green arrows make huge walls of text much more bearable to read.
I'll format this post >>50574602 as an example -

The way your formatted your post makes you look like a huge faggot.
First theres literally no box for the Stars, no matter how much they try to get in.
The Holobox wants to watch girls and only a minuscule minority is fine with the homos, to the point that the only growth the dudes get by collabing with the girls is a few hundred more subs that day and that's about it.
There's no way for any significant overlap between the fanbases and the gun in the head mataphor makes fuck all sense when Roberu and Astel are growing faster than the other homos by going outside of this box and bringing new fans who want to watch them, but that would go against your beggar argument.

With Kanata you genuinely don't fucking know what the fuck you're talking about but just throw "Kanata male collab" on youtube and read the comments of whatever clip you get.
A considerable amount of people aren't attacking those enforcing these ideals but Kanata herself for daring to enforce them, ignoring how she's a huge idolfag, but I guess that also goes against your beggar argument.
And you're completely missing the point with Kiara who even if she gave her support to Tempiss she also explicitly said she wasn't interested in collabing with them and when she talked about HoloEN being held back by the lack of new members your kind started spamming "how abut muh boys" when everyone fucking knows what the hell she was taking about, but once again that goes against your beggar argument.

I don't know man, it looks like you're hellbent in making the girls collab with the homos because you're drinking from the same fountain oboretai drank with those retarded arguments, or maybe you're the cunt yourself.

much cleaner innit?

>>50582528
it's not about writing cleany retard, it's about reddit

Holobronies, you good?

>>50583012
Always. Seethe daily over your forced “””””yabs””””””.

>>50583012
Yeah I'm fine

>>50565386
Why don't these guys try to become a man their oshi can be proud of?

I can't believe Cover merged the branches just so they could announce a Trans gen during pride month.

>>50583809
i might unironically hang myself if this happens

>>50574602
>The way your formatted your post makes you look like a huge faggot.

>Proceeds to shit out an unreadable wall of text

Why are am*ricans like this?

>>50583809
It's a slow day we might as well schizo out over nothing

>>50564912
me too, i personally want to see artists making cuck hentai for their beloved fans

>>50562948
They are getting rid of Tempiss and Tempoop. They will announce it on the main twitter account simultaneously with EN3.

>>50566002
I watch vesper and magni, I don't want the mixed gen collabs, keep them separate

>>50566002
Ok captain obvious. Not gonna change anyone’s opinion on not liking male Vtubers. Is it weird? Yeah, Is it evil? No. You niggas treat that shit like it’s something worth cancelling someone over w0SP4R

>>50589444
That would be the best possible future for Hololive which is why it won't happen

>>50574606
I am going to impregnate you.

>>50563248
thats what amefags and kroniifags said

>>50582507
It's lovely how this is the only thing you paid attention to. But yeah, it'll be great to see only half of the retarded mixed gen being allowed in the Hololive server because I guarantee you the absolute majority of the girls, homocallabers included, wouldn't be in favor of opening the server for the homos. Or you would prefer them to not even have permission to enter the server and be cut off from the best game to have impromptu collabs with their Hololive senpai?

>>50587216
Not even American and it's hilarious how you think that's unreadable. Beggars are truly mentally retarded.

>>50565137
Are we doing this again? We are close to the anniversary that Homos arrived to EN, and changed the entire thing for Hololive EN forever., and everyone started to make this fiction of having a literal civil war

>>50565825
Suddenly, A-chan being overworked is not just a meme anymore
>It never was

>>50563206
Really? An entire gen schizos aren't allowed to watch? Where do I sign?

>>50603351
>>50603335

>>50563854
Futa twitter now

>this entire thread
jesas

>>50562948
LETS GOOOOO