/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>50553357
money, why work if you can still make a fuck ton even if you don't stream?

>>50553357
Gura deflection thread

Being pregnant and raising a child takes a lot of time especially for a single mother

>>50553357
Being expected to entertain thousands of autists every day when your're an autist yourself

>>50553357
>What makes vtubers lose motivation to stream?
Nigger/chinck spamming and crying for everything

>>50553357
Because (You)

>>50553357
Cancerous doxx loving fanbases

decrease supply, increase demand, multiply earnings

>>50553357
pregnancy

>>50553357
I miss 2019 Aqua so much...

>>50553357
Gen 2 is cursed man

Zoomer women are lazy.

>>50556098
This

>>50553357
Zoomers. That’s what went wrong. If you give money and love to someone who hasn’t suffered enough in life they will not understand how valuable that is.
>haachama
at the very least has excuses for not putting content out there.

>>50553357
What do you mean they just "throw" money at me? I haven't done anything.

Cock. Mine, specifically

>>50559844
Being too dumb to go independent from parents to keep a 6-7 digits job isn't a good excuse, though

>Muh zoomers
Sure, let's ignore Suisei, AZKi and Choco who have streamed less than everyone on that image except Haachama

>>50553357
The only one that has a valid excuse is Haachama.

>>50553357
first two depression, with aqua wanting to be an idol whatever that entailed. ayame probably burned out because of EOPs, haachama burned out for being creatively bankrupt, she was doing all sort of shit that didn't stick

>>50553357
Aqua got hit super hard by Cover's leaving Billi Billi. Like FBK she had over a million subs ans a rabid audience that threw tons of cash at her. She got spammed and harassed as hard as the fox, then the apex arc happened and she got stream sniped constantly while trying to reach Master. Killed all her motivation.
> Dunno about Shion.
Ayame got tons of issue in her private life. Would have quit long ago without the Ayafubumio unit.
>Haato came in on a whim. Got instantly burned by YT. Never treated vtubing like her career.

>>50560039
It might not be good but it’s something believable given how nips are. The other ones have zero excuses (moving for 5 months straight, lying about being depressed, muh chinks from 3 years ago, etc are not valid) and 2 of them have been found out playing games with males and shit.

>>50560056
>shion
>depression
anon… it’s not 2022 anymore. Everyone knows what really happens with her.

>>50560243
shes on fucking meds retard. she's unironically menhera

>>50560253
She was found out playing valorant with dudes non stop instead of streaming. She’s just laplus but less retarded since she manages to not be as unlikeable despite doing the same shit.
The only retard here is you who still believe that shit.

>>50560327
>Believing retarded narratives from matome sites

>>50553357
The fanbase is fucking disgusting and more money than god

>>50560375
>not believing stuff the nips have proven.
>not believing it even after seeing some gachis leave
>not believing it after she did that damage control mengen
>not believing it after she blocked people on Twitter who were throwing the valorant account name at her casually.
>not believing it despite watching it develop live and seeing how the nips showed evidence.
>believing an EOP from /vt/ who disregards everything because he just doesn’t like it
Some people just deserve to be taken advantage of. Enjoy it.

>>50560550
>proven
>circumstancial evidence at the very best
Sure thing, schizo.

>>50560616
I mean, cucks are a thing nowadays. If that’s your kink all the power to you, anon! But you are cuck and a 20 yo zoomer nip is taking your money to go on trips with male e-celebs without even having the decency of putting out some content.
You should try laplus too. She’s really good friends with shion and they offer the same experience people like you like.

>>50560042
Suisei and AZKi are singers first and foremost. Choco-sen though... She spends most her time asleep.

>>50560550
Let me guess: you must be the guy who keeps pushing the "Pekora is married to Jun" rrat

>>50560042
>Suisei
>I'm working on concerts and albums so I don't have as much time to stream
>Fans actually get to see concerts and albums

>Gura
>I'm working on a bunch of stuff so I don't have as much time to stream, but just wait!
>Never says what the stuff is, also fans never see it.

>>50560802
Why are you trying to compare a stupid ratt like that with stuff that’s been proven?
You EOPs need to understand the difference between retarded shit like “miko raped pekora” and an idol being found out doing stuff with dudes.

>>50560873
Because the Pekora married Jun rrat has also been "proven"

>>50560550
There is no solid foundations on all those claims. Gachi leaving, and damage control would still be done regardless if it was true or not.
There was no damage control mengen either.
The characters played by the valorant account in question doesn't reflect what she more than often defaults to (Doesn't play male characters in valorant)

>>50560956
>There was no damage control mengen either.
Talking about what would happen if she leaves forever a couple of days after she was found out looks like damage control in the form of pity baiting though.
>The characters played by the valorant account in question doesn't reflect what she more than often defaults to (Doesn't play male characters in valorant)
And that somehow makes the perfect time matching between stream time and valo time throughout many days a lie. Right. That’s like saying your girlfriend won’t cheat on you with a black dude because you until dating you she only dated other white dudes.

>>50560944
bro you are behind on rrats lmao

but yeah if you want to see the shion proof go look yourself cause proving rrats are fake or not usually lead to dox talk and bans just to prove your point with some rando anon lol. in the end its up to you what you believe or even care about anon. i beleive the japs in the evideince they found but dont really care since i never was invested in shion anyway

>>50554069
>woman
>autist
lol

>>50561110
>damage control
She has never pity baited before. She can fake being social but she is incredibly anti-social if you know anything. I would wager the only person she has ever been genuinely close with is Aqua though it does not seem to be the case lately.
>'perfect' time matching between streams
Circumstantial. It's like saying you haven't seen both people in the same room so they must be them. And at the same time, I'm not so sure of the method that guy used to track the times of activity

>>50553357
Addiction to getting dicked down by me.

>>50553357
>Haachama
>Aqua
>Shion
>Ayame
>Laplus
>Ollie
>Mumei
Its pretty interesting how most of the young talents are the ones who barely stream or get burnt out later. Only exceptions are like Matsuri, Ollie and Baelz.

>>50556098
By that logic Marine should be streaming less this year after her popularity went supernova last year...and yet

I always find it funny how the ones who just want to watch an anime girl play a video game are apparently the cucks, and not the ones who seem to be terminally obsessed with thinking about how they have a cock in them whenever they aren’t steaming and trying to prove that to be the case.

>>50561652
It's not a rule, Pekora and Koyori stream a fuckton despite being popular too.
It's just that it's a viable strategy and we can see it being utilized, but this doesn't mean that there aren't equally good ones or something better.

>>50561652
The ones who don't stream won't do it because they don't care about anything beyond getting their salary and enjoying their private life (friends, bfs, buying expensive shit, etc). If they stream they care about more than only money. It's really that easy.

>>50553357
boyfriend

>>50560550
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep

>>50561853
Yeah. Can't convince most people of anything once their mind is made. That includes you who likely isn't even invested in the person involved

>>50561792
You know what, this actually makes the most sense for once. Maybe not exactly that but something similar.

>>50561352
>She has never pity baited before.
And she did it in that mengen.
>She can fake being social but she is incredibly anti-social if you know anything. I would wager the only person she has ever been genuinely close with is Aqua though it does not seem to be the case lately.
She's really close to laplus. Well, not quite. She's close to nakaoka. You saying she's only been close to aqua just shows how little you know, both because she barely shows up to say anything and because you're an EOP, but she's close to other people, and the worst kind of people while we are at it.
>circunstancial
za hando was also matsuri's brother I guess. You are in a point where not even having her ID in front of you and seeing her getting gang-banged will be proof. You will find a way to disregard it. It's not that hard: some idols are honest and some aren't. She ended up in the former group like many others. It happens. The problem is when you just deny everything because you crave to keep living in an illussion.
Anon, nips know what they do. They are the ones who keep idol culture alive and are the ones who always find the whores out. If you just want to disregard the people who actually knows how's done despite showing you proof that's on. You don't need to stop liking her but you have face the truth.

>>50561183
being female might be a crippling disability but it doesnt exclude them from the spectrum friend

>>50561612
hag superiority proven once again

>>50562180
>mengen
I beg to differ. That's hard anxiety and wanting to run away. She has never expressed such things before.
>Laplus
What indications do you think she's close to Laplus? What other Holos have said about them? What they've done with eachother for collabs? Just because she accidently leaks her real name doesn't signify closeness.
The sheer difference in interactions, behaviors, reports between Aqua and Shion far exceed anything you will bring up with anyone else.
>rant
I've seen the 'Proof' and it's not nearly as bad as you're painting it. Your proclivities are clearly made here. It also seems you were never a fan or involved in any capacity outside of the drama

>>50562249
>autist
>highly popular vtuber
yeah, for sure. ever seen a real autist? you think they'll be able to entertain a crowd of people online? and I dont mean people just laughing at them.
The extremely few autistic women dont end up as vtubers.

>>50562484
nta but you're on so many levels of cope lol then again idolfags are mostly mentally ill so you fit right in

>>50562543
Please attack the points properly. You just sound stupid. We're all mentally ill if we're on this board

>>50562640
im a tourist and I know nothing of the subject but the layers of cope you're behind are visible to the naked eye.
>I beg to differ. That's hard anxiety and wanting to run away. She has never expressed such things before
this doesnt happen to vtubers a few years into their work. Must be living in a different reality to believe this kinda shit, as the other guy said you'd cope even if you walked in on her getting railed

>>50562709
You should stop your response after bringing up being a tourist.
First time she has ever expressed wanting to disappear and you believe it's one thing over the other despite not knowing anything

>>50562787
its a real person, she's a 3D woman behind the avatar. That should clue you in. Unless you somehow cannot recall a single time 3d celebs did a sob story stunt like this

>>50562543
It's pointless. He wants me to give him her address in tokyo with a copy of the contract binding her rm name with murasaki shion and a porn tape. And even then he will find out something else to just deny everything.
>idolfags
I'm an idolfag but I'm not blind. If I see consistent proof then I'd believe it. I'm not retarded as to defend a proven lazy liar. Don't put me in the same level of cognitive dissonance as that anon.
>>50562484
>I beg to differ.
Good for you. That doesn't change anything.
>What indications do you think she's close to Laplus?
The fact that she called her by her rm name on stream and the fact they were either found out playing valorant together or playing with the same dudes (can't remember which one is right now). They also got covid too close to each other and then got the rest of holomems sick but then again all of this is circunstancial, right?
>I've seen the 'Proof' and it's not nearly as bad as you're painting it.
The proof shows she's been playing with males, the same group of males, off stream instead of streaming, it also shows she's been playing both before and after her streams as shion. It's not that bad if you don't care she hangs out in valorant offpako servers.
It's insane how you have the guts to defend her when I've been watching her gachis removing her oshi mark and full on depressed over this shit. I guess you know more than them. You know more than the nips who always get the info and the proof, mor than the jp gachis, more than the rest of people and all that without speaking a single word of japanese. Quite an special individual.

>>50562488
Do you think autism means you are a mouth breathing meat cube looking downs mother fucker that eats mud?
Its a huge spectrum that includes minor stuff like just being shit at social interaction

>>50553357
Shion is streaming as much as she always has newfag, why is she in the pic?

>>50563037
You're constantly on the fact that the valorant account in question is actually her when there is no solid grounds for that. Everything you've brought up here is under the assumption that the valorant account is her's.
Stop trying to move past the point in proving the account is her's or not. All the tourists reading will get it twisted.
She has hardly any fans outside of JP but she is still doing really well despite 'all her gachis leaving'.

The covid thing got a lot of people. If you understand anything about the virus, it's not about who shows symptoms first.
You really don't understand anything. But these responses aren't meant for you. They're meant to challenge your points to any onlookers.

>>50563037
>but I'm not blind
well I said "mostly". Didn't mean to include you.

>>50563105
>that includes minor stuff like just being shit at social interaction
you'll have to search really hard for a woman that sucks at this. Even if they're severely autistic that part is mitigated compared to a male. And I know its a huge spectrum, but its not really worth mentioning mild autism as it would be harder to find anyone who isn't these days if you really started looking.

>>50563343
pathetic lol

>>50563343
It's a schizo thread to begin with, not much chance of either you or him convincing anyone who's neutral on the subject matter.

>>50560327
>The only retard here is you who still believe that shit.

Anon you cannot be this dense.

>>50563343
>The account is not hers despite nips proving it is! I know it!!
>I know that but I didn't even know she's clsoe with laplus who's been found out soind the same shit as her!
>Laplus got covid after the streamer server season ended and shion got sick almost at the same time as her and the other male e-celebs in that server but that's just how the virus works!!!
>I can disregard every single piece of proof the nips has showed despite I don't speak a single word of japanese!
You sure are convincing people she's clean kek.
>she is still doing really well
She is indeed. Not a lot of people know about it and she handled pretty well. Rushia would have probably ended up the same if she wasn't as retarded as she is.
>despite 'all her gachis leaving'.
Who are you quoting? I said her gachis left, not all her gachis left. If people like laplus and matsuri still have gachis why on earth wouldn't shion keep them? Some leave because they aren't blind and some just crave for that illussion no matter what.

>>50563533
>nips proving it is
>I can disregard every single piece of proof the nips has showed despite I don't speak a single word of japanese!
>Not a lot of people know about it
The sanest schizo

>>50563533
This thing is starting to loop. I'll just keep bringing up the proof you speak of is circumstantial and you'll keep saying the nips prove it but it really doesn't.

They've all been streaming for nearly 5 years so it probably got samey for some of them plus dealing with the downsides of your job being online 80% of the time in an environment you're open to harassment

>>50563692
It is indeed. You are just gonna disregard everything the nips got and say it's all a conspirative lie despite not understanding what they got while not even speaking the language of any of the parties involved in the matter.
Enjoy her content (as scarce as it is) I guess. But she's not clean anymore no matter what you chose to believe.

>>50553435
The gura and ayame strategy it always works too

>>50553357
They get showered with money even if they don't stream so they choose to do things they like instead. I'm sure they have hobbies and pastimes they'd rather be doing instead of entertaining some virgin losers on the internet.

>>50553357
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>>50563037
>her rm name with murasaki shion and a porn tape.
Sauce

>>50565053
Yeah, me.

>>50553357
money and attention, when they get a lot of both they lose interest, most if not all holocorns are 20yo virgins so they cant control themselves which means this will keep happening until the entire gens soft-graduate, haachamas case its a bit different, she got into college, if shes taking it seriously she shouldnt have that much free time.

look at the bright side anontachi, unlike the other 3 who come back to suck their paypigs' money off with merch every couple of months, haachama isn't shameless enough to do so

>>50560847
Gura is jew of course being a schemer is her nature.

>>50567177
haachama is truly an inspiration. She tries everything, fails, then keeps trying more things. She never stops bouncing back. Hopefully she can graduate university and come back to streaming.

>>50560134
For Shion, she is always in "depresshion" mode, so she usually doesn't stream because of it

>>50561612
Chloe is also an exception, she's very young but streams consistently

>>50571161
If you believe some schizo on 5ch she’s 27 and dumped her boyfriend when she got into Hololive

>>50560847
still waiting for Atlantis

>>50572385
I kneel. Every talent should learn from her fine example.

>>50553357
>What went wrong
nothing

>>50553357
sex with me