/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>50440709
Recent clip numbers
>>50379902
>>50379929
>>50379955
>>50379979
>>50379998

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>43,933: Miko (Hololive)
>33,360: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,249: Matsuri (Hololive)
>21,559: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,942: Korone (Hololive)
>19,805: Mito (Nijisanji)
>17,169: Morinaka Kazaki (Nijisanji)
>16,752: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,718: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,690: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,322: Mio (Hololive)
>13,540: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,963: Haneru (774 inc)
>12,562: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)
>12,082: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,982: Nene (Hololive)
>11,587: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,802: Met (VSPO)
>10,512: Botan (Hololive)
>10,428: Towa (Hololive)
>10,144: NeruMero (Indie)

will this thread be better?

>>50440756
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 81,111 - Sausage Legend Competition
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,193 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,943 - God Field Tournament
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,748 - Minecraft
21) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,131 - I'm on Observation Duty 5
22) Nose (VSPO) - 136,222 - 3D Debut
23) Subaru (Hololive) - 86,363 - Outfit Reveal
24) Miko (Hololive) - 56,059 - Minecraft
25) Laplus (Hololive) - 80,541 - Birthday 3D Live
26) Kanato (Nijisanji) - 68,004 - 3D Debut
27) Aki (Hololive) - 65,938 - Birthday 3D Live
28) Lui (Hololive) - 51,167 - Horse Racing Club (w/ Koyori, Botan, Pekora)
29) Miko (Hololive) - 43,933 - The Outlast Trials (w/ Fubuki)

> PER COMPANY
26x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
6x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Subaru
1x: Aki, Chloe, Hibari, Kanato, Koyori, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Nose, Towa

> 2023 GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
115x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
41x: Pekora
15x: Miko
13x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aki, Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>50440555
That's a yume/fujo magazine. Guess they gave up on the brotuber cope and are looking for more women to save tempiss but it's too late, especially for Axel.

Here is for the ones who missed.
>30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, HOLOSTARS
Short summary
>party is over

>>50440769
No, you jinxed it.

here is the EN tweet of course

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1663486493560823808

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>5/29 DAILY TALLY
6,731: Ina (Hololive)
6,338: Baelz (Hololive)
5,537: IRyS (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)
17) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,197 - Valkyrie Connect (w/ Kronii)
18) Mori (Hololive) - 12,008 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Subaru & Botan)
19) Mori (Hololive) - 11,130 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
20) Mori (Hololive) - 10,629 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
21) Ina (Hololive) - 18,722 - Birthday Stream
22) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,457 - Unarchived Karaoke
23) Baelz (Hololive) - 16,717 - Genital Jousting
24) Kronii (Hololive) - 9,914 - Minecraft
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,727 - ASMR (w/ Ike)
26) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,381 - 3D Zatsudan
27) Kronii (Hololive) - 17,250 - Council Mario Party Collab
28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,083 - Outlast Trials (w/ Fauna, Kronii, Mori)
29) Ina (Hololive) - 6,731 - Breath of the Wild

>PER COMPANY
25x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
4x: Mori
3x: Fauna, Kronii
2x: Mumei, Baelz, Vox, Gura, Ina
1x: Luca, Amelia, Kiara, Finana

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
39p: IRyS
31p: Mori
30p: Ina
25p: Fauna
21p: Baelz
20p: Mumei
15p: Kronii
12p: Kiara
10p: Vox, Gura
9p: Shu
6p: Amelia
5p: Luca, Finana
4p: Ike
3p: Elira, Enna
2p: Bettel
1p: Pomu

>>50440786
Here is the same, but for StarsEN. Short summary
>GRIM got grimmer

>>50440811
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
109x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Fauna
11x: Baelz, Gura
10x: Mumei, Kronii, Ina
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
137p: Fauna
116p: IRyS
114p: Mori
113p: Ina
100p: Baelz
98p: Mumei
74p: Vox
62p: Kronii
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
27p: Shu
17p: Pomu
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
12p: Enna
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1663484308710096897

Red bean minecra

I think it will be kino if EN3 lore/setup is holoX international branch, it fits with the whole world domination thingy

AZKi micra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWBjxnF7tL8

>>50440800
not the holoproEN twitter?

>>50440813
Now compare the bump the debut of Tempus 2 gave to the one that happened with Holox's debut. It's hilarious how even Xsoleil had more people excited for after how garbage Iluna than a new round of homos.

>>50440813
god I fucking love seeing them crash and burn
also looks like they finally found their floor just below 1k? (for now?)

>*Mogs your company*
Nothing personnel, silly

>>50440813
Jesus fuck

>>50440856
>>50440866
>Lumberjacking AZKi
Nice nanoda

>>50440470
I forgot if JP was mentioned in that statement but I can see them dropping em in that Jan/Feb window.

EN3 and EN4 debut window will be interesting. If ID4 is coming Q4, EN3 have to be earlier in Q3. Otherwise, there will a lot of seething from EN fans.

EN4, I reckon they would want it around Q2 or Q3 next year assuming nothing crazy happens between now and then. To make up for letting EN branch lag behind since Council.

>>50440813
I'm genuinely curious if Hololive is even seeing these numbers or not. Do you guys think EN management is aware the homos are crashing and burning or they're just like "nah, they're doing fine"

>>50440873
I don't know, I have that homobeggar account blocked

>>50440893
She's so cute bros....

>>50440944
>Otherwise, there will a lot of seething from EN fans.
EN fans are already seething because EN3 didn't come out in 2022

>>50440784
So far I think Bettel and Altare have the most female fans.... rest have male fans

>>50440957
all that matters is revenue, but it's a metric we don't really have insight unless you want to make the argument that ccv is directly linked to revenue
feel free to do so

>>50440957
>Doing fine
they got standardized merch treatment. Cover knows.

>>50440944
If tempus get a new gen in less than 2 years i'll anti EN management to oblivion

>>50440784
I hope they truly understand that yume's and fujos are insane and they need to really tread lightly. NijiEN is full of lessons on what to do and what not to do in that arena.

>>50440995
I don't think so, I remember Axel saying his audience was about a 50/50 split a bunch of months ago so most of them are probably in a similar situation with women being either the majority of their viewers or just slightly fewer than the men

>>50440944
They pretty much confirmed JP too. As for EN3 they have to debut either next month of July, otherwise I don't see them coming out before the last few months of 2023 and then we'll have ID4, EN3 and JP7 dropping in under 6 months which would be funny but I believe Cover would prefer to space their debuts and not machine gun 13 (or potentially more if ID4 ends up having more members) in such a short time spam. If we see an EN3 in the next couple of weeks then EN4 100% has to debut at the start of the next fiscal year to make up for how a waste of time 2022 was.

>>50440957
maybe 1-2 holostars are in red, but I guess Tempus as a whole is in green due to Vesper, Bettel, Magni and Altare fans spending on them a lot

Met having her 3rd anniversary, she's going over her streams. Just hit a Z for 20k lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOuwomH1z50
merch: https://store.vspo.jp/products/komorimet-an3rd

>>50440957
Wouldn't have a new EN director and A chan coming in if they thought it was fine. Problem is how they plan to salvage StarsEn since they couldn't save StarsJP either. The market doesn't seem to be there or is too fickle about it.

NIPPLEMAN STRIKES AGAIN

More clip numbers.
Slow day today, which is expected since nothing much happened yesterday.
Split today is 16.0M(-1.4M) HL to 10.4M(-820k) NJ.

>>50440813
Ah yes, the sacred, legendary, long-awaited 1k median.

>>50441092
Graph.

>>50440890
>also looks like they finally found their floor just below 1k? (for now?)
I don't think they found their floor yet.

>>50440998
>all that matters is revenue, but it's a metric we don't really have insight
This thread has their SC revenue and a rough estimate of their merch sales.
The only justification for their existence is neither their public metrics nor their assumed internal metrics but
>a long shot that could have paid out big if it had succeeded
not that dissimilar from HoloCN back in the days

>>50441020
Start by recognizing they are the people behimd bvtm.

>>50441050
anon, actually he was the one considered with the most female fans because of his model... but he lost many of them... now I think only Bettel and Altare might have more than 50% of it females

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>50441092
Split today is 4.6M(-710k) HL to 1.6M(-290k) NJ.

>>50441141
Graph.

>>50441130
how did he lose them? I'm not up to date on the holostars.

>>50441124
Nypa

How do we save tempus?

>>50441060
If EN3 does drop within the next month and a half or so then I'd believe that. Would show that all these audition reminders for EN is cause they're trying to get off their ass and find EN4.
As for Homo 3, I can see them try to do in November/December or so.

>>50441092
More clip numbers by Source.
Note the new clip_count column, which is formatted as "+{new clips} ({total clips})". Also note this number isn't an integer persay, since one clip may source multiple streams, so it is +1/stream_mention_count for those cases.

Ui-mama gold today?

>>50440944
Funny, this is also the sentiment of JPs in the Pekora clips. EN3 will come this year and JP will be next year.

>>50441211
Yeah, marine's basically setting up a mega funnel with her drawing stream for her.

>>50441190
Announcing EN3 during the concert might be the most plausible way.
fuck...I shouldn't have bring my hopes up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crib-lZflIg
No popular demand for EN3 huh

>>50441181
There is no saving. And if there was, I would, not even under torture tell you, just so I can watch them fail.

>>50441211
Hopefully.

>>50441256
Winter EN3 would truly be Grim, branch will be dead by then

>>50441260
now show the cropped tempiss screenshot from that convention that still showed empty seats kek

>>50441170
trying to ship himself with Nodoka, then Zeta
always talking about how he is surrounded by girls etc etc

>>50441190
I don't see a new homoEN this year. Tempus 2 only sped up their downfall and I think a new gen in under a year will finally kill them unless they have some really strong hires, but at this point who the hell who's actually talented would want to become a Holostars and not either try the indie career or go Niji?

>>50440709
who?

>>50441246
Personally I think there is no need for another new JP gen. EN3 might be needed but not JP7.

Who's Ginga Alice?

>>50441181
I know how, but their continued existence is a cancer upon something I enjoy so instead I advocate for chemotherapy.

>>50441321
Being a NijiEN male NOW will give you same rewards as Holostars.....

>>50440957
Oh they are aware, you can be assured about that. The only problem now is they can't backtrack their decisions even if stars branches are proven to be money blackholes. Mass graduation will be bad for press and public relations with fans, so they are stuck in this limbo.

>>50441158
are you predicting the future now?

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>HOLOLIVE EARTH
>HOLOLIVE CITY
>HOLOLIVE TERRITORY
>HOLOLIVE COLONY
>HOLOLIVE GARDEN
>HOLOLIVE BOX

>>50441357
True but you can at lest leech off the popular dudes while who the fuck is popular in StarsEN? Bettel and Vesper? Not to mention if EN3 ends up having no homocollabers then only HoloEN girl who will throw you a bone is Rrat because not even Mori nor Kronii gave a shit about the second batch, so your options to get exposure are severely limited.

What JP needs is a girl band not streamers hell a singer songwriter that will write holo songs will be better than JP7 rn.
ID4 is good on paper but can they find another Kobo/Kaela? Since I think they peak at Kobo/ID3 and them being the so called en lite will EN viewers watch them more if EN3 arrive?
Honestly more events for the current ID like do their 3D debut for gen2/gen3 is better than new girls.
EN3/4 honestly is the best move for cover this year. Specially they can insert some EU/asian americans etc in EN.

>>50441357
Not really. Males have more privilege in Niji, you can yabba dabba doo more freely too.

>>50440957
Basically this >>50441078 Cover knows about their numbers much better than this thread does, but it's impossible to ignore the change with Omega, A-chan becoming active on the EN side of things and the big boss man sitting in on English meetings. The question for StarsEN will be if it can stop the bleeding or not. They'll probably continue to advertise them as best they can, but a third male group for EN is dead unless they have a miracle.

>>50441193
Nice

>>50441333
one of the og. not as og as sora but she's a ripe hag

>>50441324
Saucenao has the pixiv source.

>>50441288
Sure it will, Nijinig.

>>50441193
Nice

>>50441291

>>50441485
But you are more safer in Holo... doesnt matter how you perform you know you are not going anywhere.... also maybe right now you are small but there IS a chance Holostars blow up, once that happens and if you are not a part of it then oh boy, you will regret joining Niji over Holo

>>50440800
Who going to buy this shit??

>>50441473
> singer songwriter that will write holo songs
So JP Mori?

>>50441473
100% agree on JP7. They need a new set of skills that aren't just streaming and a band gen is the one thing that would be truly unique, but that's true for all branches. As for ID4 I think they can round up the current roster pretty well but I'm waiting to see what kind of members they get since this branch is a little hard to gauge what it truly needs, but maybe after that we'll see a big concert like EN is having now.

>>50441560
>there IS a chance Holostars blow up
It will definitely happen this time!

fuck... how do i wait until july, i can't wait for en3

>>50440813
With people talking about their revenue, here is a measurement of the only public one that is available to this thread
>SUPERCHAT REVENUE, PER MONTH, HOLOSTARS EN (TOTAL AND PER CHANNEL)

They REALLY had something good going up until September, but in October, based on this and on >>50440813, they took a mighty tumble.
I remember Vesper back then getting a sizable amount of SC not from "starry eyed girls" but from what seemed to be "tech bros".

It turns out the dissonance between the expectation from the Hololive audience and the path StarsEN took with their content was too much and whatever initial audience they collected, they lost it all and had pretty much to start over.

>>50441551
POPULAR

>>50441473
Suisei and Watame both write a fair bit of their own lyrics. Anyone really serious about music is at least doing some of it by now.

>>50441560
The only chance for StarsEN to blow up is if ALL of them are pumped up by a much more popular streamer and they all manage to retain the new audience which is something most of them absolutely fail to do so. And no, it won't be HoloEN because that train already left for another station a long time ago.

>>50441092
>It's Blue at the top.
Hololive is still the king of clip views? Just how I like it desu~ it's been years now and niji clip numbers still remain as abysmally stagnant as ever. KeK LOL.

>>50441604
New buff wore off, no events, and sisters are notoriously fickle unless you land some of the obsessive whales.

>>50441655
>The only chance for StarsEN to blow up is if ALL of them are pumped up by a much more popular streamer
Is there even any precedent for a whole eight people branch to be "pumped up by a much more popular streamer"? The closest to that would be Shoto being pumped up by Luxiem, but it is one bloke being pumped up by a branch and not vice-versa

https://youtu.be/apSX-TDQ9XA
Miko stream. Don't know what it is yet though.

Just watched outlast trial, mori is cringe

>>50441716
kek, are you waking up from a three years coma and just watched Mori for the first time ever in your lifetime?
"Mori is cringe" is as non controversial for a statement as "water is wet"

>>50441655
make their model look like kpop, lean into bfe and music.... shill them more in SEA and south america....
there you go

>>50441604
>May is now the second worst month per channel since November
Clown's birthday really failed to help them escape this abyss even if it was rather successful, huh?

>>50441704
Nope. And even if one of them get bigger I doubt it'll help because that surely did fuck all for StarsJP even when Roberu was still collabing with his branchmates on the regularly.

>>50441716
Gura hard carried the game and the stream.

>>50441708
Another gold?

Why are holomem not dabbling in this kino?

>>50441777
Isn't this advice just
>lol, just debut your own BTS

>>50441777
Yeah, I don't see that ever working with Holostars.

Speaking of the EU market, if the second HoloEN concert is in EU, what country should the concert be? Spain, French, or Germany?

>>50441790
Likely between her and Marine

(๑'ᆺ')くるくる
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf9DPHcbdIo

>>50441839
Switzerland

>>50441473
A singer/songwriter would just spend most of her time making songs for herself not other holos.

>>50441806
https://youtu.be/Kbg8PrWXqWs
infest with bug already

>>50441839
>if the second HoloEN concert is in EU, what country should the concert be? Spain, French, or Germany?
Madrid has "Japan Weekend" and picks around 200k people when it happens.

Doing it in Europe would be dumb tho, when they can just do it in ANY of the SEA countries and double dip on the popularity of EN and the proximity with the local branch and the JP one

>>50441819
they should have done that from the start... but instead we have 8 guys of which 6 have the most ugliest models in the industry
its like they never wanted a female audience

>>50441839
England.
That's where the English speakers are.

>>50441716
kroni and fauna also not helping

>>50441704
Nah. They'd need something like what Kobo got, but for the branch. Realistically it's just not happening.
It'd be a start if their fans actually bothered to regularly clip them, but like it was talking about in this thread their RUST stuff was largely ignored. Over a week of basically dead content for getting new fans since new people aren't going to sit and watch you grind RUST for hours.

>>50441917
england looks rainy and depressing

>>50441060
Ahh that was the statement I forgot.

I think having a new gen for separate branch each quarter should be fine for Cover (not including stars) with 2 month in between. Tourist from other branches don't stick around for long anyway. Debut buff is only like less than 2 weeks now?

>>50441246
From JP fans? I think it's a fairly conservative guess which most JP companies tends to be.

>>50441839
There is no indication they have enough fans over there to make it worth it.

>>50440709
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>More FOCUS ON series of singles for NijiJP, Salome & Ririmu
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1663387342932152320
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1660850618549014529
>Mumei 774k subs celebration merch
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1663364607979970561
>Brave Group plans on starting a NA based Vtuber project
https://www.offkaiexpo.com/activities/sponsors/
>Prism teases new gen, high likelyhood to be all male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ln4IA4fIX0
https://www.prismproject.jp/prism-polaris
>HolostarsEN TEMPUS special feature on Otomedia's summer 2023 editon
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1663485408326328322
>(Ex)NijiKR chuubas joining Seoul POPCORN as well
https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1663450533716434944
https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1663450357740232704

>Old news
>Rukako Oura to suspend activities indefinitely
https://twitter.com/774inc_official/status/1662398246508179457
>Hololive X Valkyrie Connect collab goal & stretch goal cleared.
https://twitter.com/vconnect_en/status/1663062616716251137
>More EN hologra debut in the coming weeks
https://youtu.be/0i4pJcTsnmk?t=109
>Zeta and Ollie guest in Seoul POPCORN convention
https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1663048130189996034
https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1663047533474746369
>Interview with Holoearth Devs
https://cgworld.jp/flashnews/holoearth-0526.html

>>50441076
she cries very easily

The overly complex half a page length autism LORE. The blue balling CUBE teasers. Omegae self inserting himself not even a week later. 2 Australians. Was Cover dumb for marketing council this way?

>>50441935
>Looks
Is.

>>50441994
Omega aside, if it was all contained within a week it would’ve been great. Instead everyone was blueballed for a month.

>>50441994
Yes

>>50441806
I want 常MOS to play it after they finish with Raft but who knows.

The Mori of JP.
But it's fine because she speaks Japanese.

>>50441990
She's been crying for like 10 minute.

>>50441927
This. HoloRust was a huge event and a lot of clips about it were being made daily while there was barely anything from StarsRust and going by the clips numbers a clip from the Barbie watchalong got more traction than anything related to Rust.

>>50441938
>I think having a new gen for separate branch each quarter should be fine
EN3 in June/July, ID4 in September/October/November and JP7 in January/February. That schedule looks pretty good, but god knows if Cover is that smart to do it.

Shigure UI is a Holo girl in all but official affiliation. I wonder if there is an arrangement for Hololive to create an official
>Holo moms
official gen and turn them into proper Holos.

If that would ever happen, along with Shigure Ui, who would be the other four girls that would make for a Holo mama gen?

>>50440709
>it was listed as tempiss boys
why?

Marine is drawing rape get in

>>50441562
Mori is one of the best hire by Cover if she focus on doing music hell if she did more duo songs rather than be a streamer she will not reclined hard.
>>50441585
EN got Mori if only mori focus more on the music part rather than be a bitch streamer.
Kobo is doing all the trick to cater to ID don't know what else a new ID girl could do hell for the streaming part they already got Kaela. So I think maybe a mini concert and 3d events will be better for the current roster.
>>50441626
That's the thing a girl band/singer song writer will enhance more of those girls so they can have more collab songs etc.

>>50441994
Yes but even if that is what it takes i would like EN3 any day

>>50441974
>>50441076

>>50441994
Yes.
Even the fucking reddit was making fun of it.
At least some memes came out of it.

>>50441561
Oil baroness

>>50441994
>Was Cover dumb for marketing council this way?
Had they debuted Council in the week of the first video, on peak hype, it wouldn't have been dumb but a stroke of genius
Dragging it through a whole month almost killed the hype

>>50442038
You wish cuckbeat

>>50442060
Ui will never sign up because she's too big on her own to ever consider submitting to cover's restrictions. Same deal for most other moms, assuming they even have the time to stream full time and aren't busy with their day jobs

>AC stock rising
>Cuckver stock continuing to drop
Third worlder dramamonkey status? Niji collapse any day now. Two more weeks.

>>50441708
>>50441790
Probably utawaku (debuff for Miko), so Marine gold today

>>50442060
>Holomoms officially
Nah, one of the benefits for both parties is the association without direct affiliation. Such an arrangement would unnecessarily shackle both parties.

>>50442094
>being in denial

>>50441076
Doesn't Met talk a bit like Ayame?

>>50442060
Only if Sana made it in

>>50442065
The problem with Mori is that her genre is ultra specific and she's not very good save from a few songs, and every time she wrote for other members it always ends up being rather mediocre. Also afaik she's only a song writer and not really a composer and much less of an arranger, having to depend on instrument machines and sound bites.

>>50441260
How it looks inside
http://your360.discoveratlanta.net/GWCC/#pano2790/13.9/18.7/90.0

what if we invested in cover stock when EN3 gets announced so we Pavlovian condition shareholders into thinking the more EN is good?

>50442164
I can imagine this sister seething, grinning her teeth while she is typing. Almost has a tear in her eye after going through the thread not finding a single discussion of Nijifags
Get well soon sister

>>50441994
EN3 should just do the exact opposite of what Council did. More vibrant marketing that pushes a happy tone marking a new beginning for holoEN as a whole. Yes, we can have lore but It should be a one paragraph summary with most of their lore hidden on Cover's website for the lore enthusiasts. Also their promotion and advertising should go beyond what we've seen so far. All those dead subs they've accumulated for the past couple of years should wake up.

>>50442257
The writing general is two blocks down anon

It seems that this animator dude that scammed Bao and other Vtubers made a statement for this mess https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m_TgfEOJTUqoclI0enmGinQSG4jGyEYxS_fAzi_06RU/preview#

>>50442244
Kronmei panel had both floors full iirc

>>50442153
>>50442169
Could be something similar to what A-Chan and Nodoka have

>scroll through youtube
>got recommended some random JP girl with sora in her thumbnail
>click stream
>it's actually sora
who's this girl?

>>50441560
lol

i feel like cover should just announce EN3 like they announced Myth

>>50442257
You would post about it if was dropping. Of course you don't talk about it when it rises and mogs Cuckver.

>>50442174
The only thing they have in common is that they're both working under Cover.

>>50442307
>>50441523
>>50441333

>>50442291
need more tissues sister??

>>50442196
A little, yeah.
Both have cutesy, high pitched voices that crack a lot.

>>50442277
EN needs marketing in general. Most their EN marketing is hoping fans spread the word on twitter/discords.

>>50442329
>still being in denial

>50442326
oh she is seething hard

>>50442299
>35 pages manifesto
QRD?

>>50442065
>That's the thing a girl band/singer song writer will enhance more of those girls so they can have more collab songs etc.
How many of the people not making collab original songs actually want to make them and would specifically want the lyrics done by a Holo member?

>>50442373
Meant for
>>50442326

>>50442054
If a bunch of numberfag could see it, cover probably could. Having a logical schedule and being actually able to execute upon it is another thing tho. Especially when no one can confirm that last audition ad was actually promoting for EN3 or EN4. We'll have to wait until after that LA concert to see. If no EN3 announcement by then, it's probably they are still looking for EN3 member

Remember when we thought Sana's graduation would herald the debut of EN3?

>>50442430
We talking about company that thought tempus 2 is good idea...

>>50442404
retard newfag

>>50442377
Didn't read all of it yet, but it's seems he shifts resposibility to Vtubers and informs that he attempted suicide

>>50441551
That still pretty packed and the photo was taken at an weird angle

>>50442430
NTA, but yeah it seems like a decent time table but it's also impossible for us to guess on how their staff and event situation looks like.

>>50442483
Cope and seethe

>Ui birthday
I swear she JUST have an event recently or did time really went by that fast?

>>50442196
Yeah, she's also very cute. Though not quite as cute as Ojou.

>>50442389
Most EN girls got a queue for Mori lol.
And I don't know if JP girls will be picky on doing collab songs specially if it will be done by holomember.

>>50442503
>the photo was taken at an weird angle
The reason it was taken from that angle is EXACTLY to mask the fact it is not packed, trying to avoid capturing any empty space and focusing on the seats that are actually occupied

>>50442468
Remember when people thought Sana's graduation was the beginning of a mass exodus because VShojo was making moves around that time and all of the girls were jumping ship?

I remember.

>>50442430
Yeah, I am hopeful that shit finally changed for the EN branch but I won't be surprised if we see no news by July 2nd.

>>50442503
>the photo was taken at an weird angle
Yeah, i wish they had zoomed it out a little more, unless they intentionally did it this way

>>50442571
I actually don't

>>50442571
Nope
All I remember is ton of butter

>>50442589
nta but it was kinda lost in the mess that was Kson around that time

Biggest impact for EN3.
Haachama returns to announce EN3 and its lore.

>>50442503
Every company does shit like this when they aren’t able to fill seats.

>>50442520
since you are new, other sisters in this thread when seethe this hard they post dox and sometimes cp... I hope you are not one of them

>>50442617
>Cons: nothing
That one sentence sank any remaining connection many of the fans of her previous life had for her

>>50442577
Didn't they do the same thing for a preveous con? I remembered that but don't remember the con name.

>>50442621
Actually, she joins EN3 as a different character that looks suspiciously similar to her.

>>50442389
How many original collab songs are holos making anyway? That aren't Mori and cover themselves?

How did ens top 5 become
Gura
Ina
Fauna/ironmouse?
Henya
Irys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8rO6nAYAyc
Ten Amagi 3D, 2k
No, I don't know who this is, or why there's a literal child in it.

>active doing collab with over 10k
Aki graduating?

>>50442736
hopefully yes

>>50442716
WOAH IT'S A TINY RAT

>>50442736
can you try making sense?

>>50442754
one has a nose and the other does not

Suisei is a whore

May is actually so fucking lame, today is yet another day where it’s either Miko or Marine gold
PekoMiko and Marine quite literally take up 90% of Holo gold this month

>>50441433
>HOLOLIVE NEWS
>HOLOLIVE EVENTS
>HOLOLIVE MERCH
>HOLOLIVE NUMBERS
>HOLOLIVE PODIUM

>>50442650
It's kinda funny that they even failed at doing that >>50442577 at rallies and such even if they aren't as grim as these, people or even personell is asked to at least fill out the empty spots to at least be able to take a coherent picture without glaringly obvious empty spots

7 years!

thanks for the shitpost guys
her ult is now fully charged

>>50442819
>watamage is powered by shitposts

>>50440811
Is notYugo in global tally only ?

Oh nice, Omega Sisters and Sora will be guest's on Alice's live
Assuming I heard that correctly

Leech

>>50442802
Goes to show that even Hololive con goers cant be bothered to show up to a Tempus event.

totally a virgin btw

>>50442841
No site recorded it

>>50442841
if it's not recorded on an aggregator with a good track record it doesn't count
Blame the retards making fake numbers pics for the lulz

>>50442841
Not currently qualified on any numberfag site

>>50442838
>sheepposts

>>50442850
yeah, she announced that a quite a while ago

>>50442862
She aborted second coming of Jesus...

Why is Suischizo so mad? Did something good happen to her?

>>50441092
Miko strong

>>50442853
>Favourite deco27 original
For me it's LEECH by Amane Kanata. I listen to LEECH by Amane Kanata on loop every waking morning every sleeping night and every moment in between almost religiously.
>No [picrel gigagachadheadphone.jpeg]

>>50442993
Her content have been pretty good lately so it must be generating ton of clips

>>50441994
what tf does this cube represent anyway? I still don't get it

Brazilian retard from /jp/ shitposting here again.

My aunt have been killing it

>>50443099
my dick

>>50442779
Kuriyama Yanmi my beloved.

>>50443113
Who? So I can better avoid the schizo.

>>50443099
Their minecraft addiction back in the early days. The golden era of holoEN

>>50443099
Probably an abstract representation of the universe or some shit like that. Essentially nothing that mattered because they were hyping up streamers in the most retarded way possible.

>>50443164
What happened? Where did the good times go?

>>50443114
19k get, let's go for 20!

Gay thread.

>>50442925
They are showing it off now

>>50443152
Suisei/Watame schizo. Larps as a heimin, soul of a nijifag.

slow day huh?

>>50443185
Sana graduated and Kronii couldn't be arsed to continue solo
Also Kiara being stubborn about doing MC collabs

>>50443168
if anything, they really should follow HoloX and debut them 9 hours after dropping the trailer.

>playboard has a limit of 3 video graph views per day
When did that happen?

>>50443222
Yeah seems like it

EN3 tomorrow
>how do you know?
I'm cover intern

>>50443213
>projecting

>>50442235
You're thinking of lyricist, which is someone who only write lyrics, songwriters also compose and sometimes arrange their own song.

>>50443256
Hi cover intern.

>>50443256
Shut up Moom just rest

No Peko no Miko today?

>>50443185
They don't play it for months, also marked the beginning of EN recline

>>50442235
Mori peaked at Live Again

>>50443282
at least look at the upcoming streams first

>>50443256
Debut more boys.

>>50443256
It’d be funny since it’d be on almost the same day as jewcorp

>>50443247
Anything between Holox and ID3. No need to build up a huge amount of hype, just announce them and debut as fast as you can.

>>50443256
Don't give me more ammo to grudgepost.

Fewls nice to see holoen get mogged by indies, latina whores and purple cunny with a cube

>>50443238
Kiara deciding to take her collab-organizing ball and go home totally sank the group dynamics of Myth but it got overshadowed by juicer drama and never gets discussed

what does this mean for streaming or not today?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1663497394326216704

Can Miko singing win gold?

>>50443247
They can’t cause of HoloENs internationally demographic. Council debut being delayed by one day fucked over a ton of people who took a day off or moved obligations just for debuts.

Most hated holo among holomen?

>>50443247
>do it like holox
No, it's too risky. Just do It like ID3 but this time no lore bullshit like THE CUBE.

>>50443363
you

>>50443363
HELLO FELLOW HOLO-LIVERS!
Who would be <prompt to get the thread to badmouth holos and only holos>?
I say it can only be <insert one Holo here to seed the conversation>!
>WHAT ABOUT YOU GUYS?!

>>50443363
Kiara probably

>>50443247
Announce on Tuesday and start on Friday. No "5 debuts in one day" Nijisanji bullshit, do it like hololive usually does it with 1 debut per evening.

>>50443247
How was HoloX announced?

>>50443282
Miko is doing utawaku, maybe bronze

>>50443348
She has 0 overlap. Nobody else is streaming.

any stream graph like github?

Most Hated Niji among Nijimen?

>marine barely 30k
>miko karaoke debuff
Boring day.

>>50443434
Announced around early afternoon and Laplus debuted on primetime JST of the same day.

>>50443414
Both of Hololive EN's debut sets were single-day marathons.
No, I'm not including the split debuts of the homos.

>>50443348
singing is the biggest debuff she's lucky to get 20k

>>50443363
Suisei

>>50443436
Marine is streaming, also utawaku is a debuff for Miko

>>50443348
Impossible. Miko's singing is far from ideal.

[Sad News] Sora admitted her love to Alice

>>50443470
IRyS was a single day marathon too

>>50443444
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/watame

>>50443413
Kiara: Please answer

>>50443348
>Miko
>singing
That's 25k at best

>>50443502
Sure was.

https://youtu.be/o94s0aWiePw
https://youtu.be/o94s0aWiePw
https://youtu.be/o94s0aWiePw
sit down it's time to learn

Huh this would be my 2nd time watching Zeta

>>50443478
So Miko is not a numberfag?

>>50443456
Salome

Have we talk about this?
>Hoodzuki IRyS
It appears on Cover trademark list for some reason
https://trademark-search.marcaria.com/en/result?applicant=%E3%82%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E6%A0%AA%E5%BC%8F%E4%BC%9A%E7%A4%BE&country=JP&classes=&status=1&mode=1&searchby=3

>>50443456
Roa

>Still thinks Miko utawaku is a debuff
>When her recent cover is one of the most watched covers recently, beating even Suisei's covers

>>50443503
Thanks!

>checking Mumei karaoke chat overlap
>homo that low
CGDCT bros?!

>>50443606
Thats how we learned her last name

>>50443606
anon we know about the hoozuki thing for years now

>Enter numberfag general thread
>"Oh the hodgepodge schizo woke up again."
>"Why is the two by four schizo pissing all over the threads again?"
>"The thingamajig schizo is active again. What Yab is he trying to deflect from now?"
>"Argh. This new hooptiloop schizo is boring. Can the old hooptiloop schizo please come back?."
Um... Why are you maggots like this? Is it really that easy for schizos to be a thread celebrities here????

>>50443470
5 hours of debut marathon is too much imo. Either 1 per day or split in 2/3 in 2 days.

>>50443606
it's already old news. that was the redacted part on irys's profile. dunno the reason why they dropped Hoozuki on her name though.

>>50443571
Yes, she just wants to make her fans happy

>>50443620
Vods =/= ccv

>>50443470
>Both of Hololive EN's debut sets
No, all of myth didn't debut on the same day. It took like 2 days.

>>50442665
name one con

>>50443620
Can't wait for Peanuts Kun's karaoke.

>>50443650
they've done it for myth and council, I don't see why they'd stop now
and as an added bonus it makes it easier to reschedule if for example a hurricane happened like it did during council

>>50443671
No, it took one single day NA. Just because it was spread over two days in JP doesn't matter.

>>50443606
Anonchama... Your archive reps... Dumpster tier.

KORONE WILL LEARN INDONESIAN

>>50443620
That cover also contains a large segment of catchy bgm which is the main appeal of the song

>>50443434
See >>13581987

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGm9_I9KSqM
Gwelu on the tally

INDOCHADS @WW?

>>50443675
talent freedom*
*terms and conditions apply

>>50443348
>Marine 30k
Possible

>>50443759
that's not a con

Qrd on who the hooptiloop schizo is?

>>50443434
9 hours before Laplus' debut and people were scrambling. Most of the thread thought she wasn't gonna even get 100k on her debut.

>>50443773
Miko singing 30k is tough

>>50443620
Can’t wait for Pekora karaoke, it must get good numbers because her Discommunication Alien cover surpassed the original

>>50443755
Did we forgive Gwelu for trying to start shit with Pekora yet?

>>50443791
cope

>>50443468
>>50443434
the gap between the announcement and Laplus debut was 9 hours, so yeah. each HoloX debuted 1 day apart and they had a full collab after Iroha's debut.

>>50443826
indo gotta be the ugliest language

>>50443839
Yes, we did.

Kek

Time passed from opening auditions to their debut per gen:
>myth 6 months
>irys vsinger 6 months
>council 6 months
>id3 7months
>tempus1 6 months
>tempus2 5 months (from tempus 1)

>id4: open 3rd february predicted july-september
>en3: unclear when they truly "opened" - there was an audtions reminder this month; in late february there was also an audtion reminder that said en girls auds were open along with id3 and homos
>holostars: supposedly audtions opened at december last year, but that was before tempus2 debut, so dates unclear now
>jp7: no info, auditions always open on the website and with no deadline, like jp6

>>50443871
t.zhang

>>50440841
>>50440811
>>50440777
>>50440756
>>50440736
>>50440718
These are a waste of posts.

>>50443839
>Did we forgive Gwelu for trying to start shit with Pekora yet?
Pekosanji is a friend of Nijisanji. Salome can confirm that.

>>50443834
Stop falseflagging, be realistic. 25k max.

>>50443826
Nanti aku siapkan kau!

>>50443871
t. flipnigger

>>50443839

Sw>>50443671
I'm sure they were under 24 hours span

>>50443906
nijiseethe

Actually technically IRyS is EN2 so Council is EN3. What we will have is EN4.

90% of holoen struggling to get 7k+ average while indies are mogging the shit out of them
ROMAO

>>50443839
>we
We thought it was very funny.
The JP overreaction was also very funny.

Gwelu shooting himself in the foot at becoming the next Mayuzumi was already sealed after he complained management was pushing back his 3D too much. So, nothing was lost long term.

mine?

AN INDO MAKES THE TALLY
NOT A DRILL

Zeta 10k doryaaaaaaaa

>>50443913
Calm down Jeremy

>>50443962
I can actually see this as homobeggar rustication for having StarsEN3 before EN3.

>>50443962
>IiiEnn Shii?

ZETA ON THE TELLY
INDOCHADS @WW?

this is actually better than Reine one
t.indog

HOLY SHIET!

HoloID on global tally.

>>50443995
Weird projection

>>50443980
Zeta is honorary EN

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>50443834
Anon
Miko not hamasaki san
22 - 26k

>>50443966
Oh ok

>>50444002
>>50444047
CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP

>>50443996
You’re going to 100% see that as justification or that Tempus 2 is technically Tempus 1

>>50444047
NOT AGAIN

>>50443606
we already know that anon, but thank for the link, i will bookmark it

>>50443996
Stop making up scenarios for you to get angry at

>>50443871
Not an Indo but MY:

Diamlah anak sial.

WELL WELL WELL

>>50443871
But It's extremely easy to learn according to indogs >>>/int/182549627

>>50443996
The beggars are actually moving on to begging for StarsID.

>>50444065

>>50443906
Oh no, what will happen to the post limit that we never reach outside hyped 3d lives.

>>50443864
And all member had a first stream I believe an hour after debut, with each day including all the previous debuted members, and they did the same thing with ID3. I really hope they follow this format and stop with the "drop everyone on the same day/a couple of days" bullshit, especially now that we have the overlap ban and having an entire day dedicated exclusively to debuts with no other streams would fucking suck.

>>50444032
>Jeremy the Leech still gets triggered by her name
Sasuga shame of China

>>50443899
We all know where is pekora when she's on break

>>50443871
Yes, and?
Where's your Holo (insert your native language here)?

>>50444126
it is, it's basically the same as spanish in terms of ease of learning

>>50444065

>>50444126
just to think if the brits didn't discover australia, indos would have mass genocide the abos and claimed it.

>>50444159
>more weird projection without presenting an argument

>>50444131
What the? Do they want 2 views?

>>50444126
The problem is that there are tons of slang and no one uses the proper for of the language outside a formal event.

>>50444174
Yeah, with me

>>50442754
I see a pattern

>>50443839
I don’t but Nijisanji already send him to the banishment room for it so I see no reason to keep dwelling on it like a petty asshole

>TOP 10 so far
Cute holo girls and holo-resembling till the eye can see!

>>50443606
Don't trust this shit. It's what people use to cope themselves into thinking Suisei isn't leaving since the site lies about Suisei selling Cover her IP.

GAS GAS GAS

>open numbers
>see picrel

>>50444253
INDOBOARD
INDOTHREAD

>>50444154
I think Omega went for Niji style debuts since he is a nijifag and a holo anti. Whoever is running this is likely not a holo anti so maybe they'll stick to tradition.

>>50444240

>>50444204
>You can actually stop Jeremy's shitposting by saying her name and or calling her a leech
It works every time.

>>50444126
Easy to learn, hard to master.

Basic conversation would get you anywhere, people are friendly and will understand and help you if you can only speak the basic. But to understand what people says on daily basis is difficult.

Niji ID keks. your response?

>>50444293
Stop being mad. You know it to be true. It's horseshit and means nothing.

>Migoti
>Utawaku
>26k
I'll lose my mind if she reach 30k

>>50444240
What's the lie? Cover registered Suzy as theirs and it's recent.

Ui gold today

>>50444315
>Niji ID keks.
Those exist?

>>50444292
Really hope so. Regardless of anyone's opinions on them Tempus 2 debuts showed how horrible this overlap ban is with the Niji-style of debuts, an EN3 needs to follow Hololive's tradition for the sake of everyone's sanity.