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>>50174962>You sure are dedicated to shitting on other companiesnot shitting at the company anon im shitting at the supposed "good" batch of vtuber debuts that people keep shilling and that would have been good for holoen but are somehow subpar when you actually watch them stream
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/ Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/ Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>50175033And what we got instead is so much better than them, right?
>>50175021Recent clip numbers>>50112948>>50112976>>50113018>>50113047>>50113087
>>50174770Proof on that 「「「Nousagi」」」or are you just Pagpag90 trying to make shit up again?
Stay safe numberbros
>>50175058No, since tempus are basically on the same level as those smaller corpo debuts so they are automatically subpar and not up to hololive standard but is up to holostars standards which is much much lower
>>50175079we need to go younger
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>80,541: Laplus (Hololive)>44,729: Lize (Nijisanji)>39,558: Chiroru (Indie)>31,171: Fubuki (Hololive)>29,693: Pekora (Hololive)>28,972: Subaru (Hololive)>22,125: Choco (Hololive)>21,293: Aki (Hololive)>15,380: Koyori (Hololive)>14,959: Lui (Hololive)>14,806: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>13,922: Reid (Neo-Porte)>10,727: Vox (Nijisanji)>10,656: NeruMero (Indie)
>>50175021>>50175044>>50175066Nice, I love Serval
Numberbro, explain this for me.No JP is streaming right now. And I've seen this situation multiple times. Why don't they cover this timeslot?
Are Irys and Council being added to HoloGra?
>Markiplier this>Markiplier that>Check out his channel>Face cam, the cancer of let's players for over a decadeAh, it's people watching Twitch chuubas talking about him
>Shinri's last 7 streamsTotalTime:10:48:45TotalTime:08:36:34TotalTime:07:54:51TotalTime:11:30:01TotalTime:11:38:04TotalTime:05:33:46TotalTime:08:20:43Is he unironically the hardest working streamer in Holo this month?
>>50175097Nah, that's just about right, any younger and yeck.
>>50175106>MAY 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 28) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.2015) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT17) Subaru (Hololive) - 81,111 - Sausage Legend Competition18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,193 - Birthday 3D Live19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,943 - God Field Tournament20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,748 - Minecraft21) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,131 - I'm on Observation Duty 522) Nose (VSPO) - 136,222 - 3D Debut23) Subaru (Hololive) - 86,363 - Outfit Reveal24) Miko (Hololive) - 56,059 - Minecraft25) Laplus (Hololive) - 80,541 - Birthday 3D Live> PER COMPANY23x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji, VSPO> PER STREAMER6x: Miko, Pekora3x: Marine, Subaru1x: Chloe, Hibari, Koyori, Laplus, Mel, Nose, Towa> 2023 GOLDS> PER COMPANY112x: Hololive23x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte2x: VSPO> PER STREAMER41x: Pekora14x: Miko13x: Marine7x: Subaru6x: Toya4x: Hal3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
>>50175113nene tend to cover this timeslot but she's busy or sometimes just playing the debuff zelda
>>50174770Is that nigger the same guy as "suiseigraduation schizo", or the "micomet ruins miko" schizo? Sometimes these niggers appear simultaneously
>>50175113Probably because majority of them either traveling from work to their home or are preparing their dinner since its almost 6
FBK is such a woman
>>50175113this was the Rushia slot in the before times.
>>50175121We are all watching Vtubers here you stupid tard, how is that any different?
https://youtu.be/CklNxvworF8https://youtu.be/CklNxvworF8https://youtu.be/CklNxvworF8
>>50175169Fuck off already
>>50175096Well, since they stole EN3 slot, they should be judged by Hololive standards
>>50175166she's following Hazbin Hotel fandom like years, anon.
>>50175121>the cancer of let's players for over a decadethats two best friend plays anonmarkiplier is the cancer that started the le profesional streamer cancer and not the lets plays one
>>50175113There are a few designated early slot coverage girls on nonweekend days. NeneKanataSometimes KoyoIf they're busy with meetings/recordings , you get no streams.
>>50175174I expect somewhere from 60k-70k, should be enough to compete with VSPO 3D and Niji eventThere's a chance it overperform and hit 80k as well
list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26thIf you know any others from 2023 feel free to reply them ill update it later. For now I must sleep, enjoy the streams tonight JPbros.
>>50175096And we will go back to the start of the conversation with you somehow believing Cover couldn't get 5 girls in over a year and were more than fine polluting their debut schedule with a bunch of failures, shilling them harder than any foreign branches to this date and expecting their main audience to eat them up just like they would do with a new HoloEN gen.
>>50175144>dancing _lolyris.webm
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>5/25 DAILY TALLY10,727: Vox (Nijisanji)8,507: Fauna (Hololive)6,948: IRyS (Hololive)6,496: Selen (Nijisanji)5,805: Alban (Nijisanji)5,604: Mori (Hololive)5,160: Kronii (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 20231) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 29) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)17) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,197 - Valkyrie Connect (w/ Kronii)18) Mori (Hololive) - 12,008 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Subaru & Botan)19) Mori (Hololive) - 11,130 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)20) Mori (Hololive) - 10,629 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)21) Ina (Hololive) - 18,722 - Birthday Stream22) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,457 - Unarchived Karaoke23) Baelz (Hololive) - 16,717 - Genital Jousting24) Kronii (Hololive) - 9,914 - Minecraft25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,727 - ASMR (w/ Ike)>PER COMPANY21x: Hololive4x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: IRyS4x: Mori3x: Fauna2x: Mumei, Baelz, Vox1x: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Kiara, Finana, Ina, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)38p: IRyS31p: Mori25p: Fauna20p: Mumei, Ina18p: Baelz12p: Kiara10p: Vox8p: Shu6p: Amelia5p: Luca, Gura, Finana, Kronii3p: Elira2p: Bettel1p: Ike, Pomu
>>50175070His full username is @exceed2256
>>50175210What about EN?
>>50175211Nope, as a miCometfag, they'll definitely get their usual collab numbers 40k something.
>>50175185yes which is why non of the current debuts match up to hololive standards anoni mean as what that other anon pointed out the most successful one that debuted in the smaller corpo is basically below or equal to tempus/stars standards
>>50175245>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY105x: Hololive38x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER16x: Mori14x: IRyS12x: Fauna11x: Baelz10x: Gura, Mumei9x: Ina, Vox8x: Amelia, Kronii6x: Kiara5x: Mysta4x: Selen3x: Pomu, Shu2x: Luca, Finana1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)137p: Fauna115p: IRyS114p: Mori103p: Ina98p: Mumei97p: Baelz74p: Vox61p: Amelia60p: Kiara53p: Mysta52p: Kronii50p: Gura43p: Luca31p: Selen26p: Shu17p: Pomu13p: Finana11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike10p: Elira9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur7p: Regis6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina
>>50175252Like King's sub account?
>>50175115After their 3D debuts whenever that happens.
>>50175211they're being overlap by 2 other collabs I doubt it could get 40k 1-block is nothing new
>>50175283no, that's his youtube account
Idk why people are shitting on Idol/Rin last thread for the Gura short popularity boost. when the conversation was about some faggot who tried to post some variation of “there were no good hires available in all of 2022, and looking at the girls that did get hired into small corpos, they suck too.” It’s just kind of funny because almost any of the people that faggot would call shit small corpo hires would’ve been boosted by the Holobox and by their Hololive coworkers and he probably would love them. Why are tribalniggers such dishonest retards?
>>50175219>And we will go back to the start of the conversation with you somehow believing Cover couldn't get 5 girls in over a year and were more than fine polluting their debut schedule with a bunch of failuresYes especially when you consider that the current talent pool that debuted are basically just below or equal to tempus level then yeah all of them would by failures even by your standards anon
>>50175276Because they have unpleasant voices. They all should change the way they talk.
>>50175153It's
>>50172214>>50174140I think it's best to assume that it's around 6k for her monthly earnings.So that means, despite being one of the top viewed people in the branch, she only makes around $70k-80k a year. Of course that's a lot of money, but nothing compared to other streamers.Do you think she's bullshitting? Playboard says that in 2 years she's made about $95k a year in superchat. But most of that is obviously in recent times, since she made very little in the beginning. with a 35% cut, that is $33kAnd with memberships.5k members --> $300k4k members --> $240k3k members --> $180kbut remember many of those are in shit currency. Not all of them, just many of them. The lowest currency value these days is 50% USD. We can assume a currency-discount between 50% and 100%, for an average of 75%Assuming 4k members (best assumption), discounting 25% for currency devaluation: $180k a year. The amount she takes home is 35%: $63k$33k + $63k = $96k, or $8k a monthAnd that doesn't even include voicepacks and streamlabs which should bring the total much higher. She should be earning well into the 6 figures range.To be honest, unless Niji gives a lower percentage of the memberships, I don't think Enna could possibly be telling the truth.
>>50175263What about them? None of them stream regularly right now, usually at latest it's IRyS wrapping up another 6 hour stream or a random shill stream OR some random stream from Bae. None of those will regularly go into what used to be Rushia's timeslot.
>>50175335not just they way they talktheir actions, behavior and demeanor arent that good on stream
>>50175331The current talent pool who debuted aren't the only ones avilable, and I fucking doubt you would saying the same thing if they had the blue dorito attached to them just like you would shit on the current EN girls if they were flowing another flag.
https://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ01005844.html/?locale=en_USPatra's new 17 hour voice pack is now out. currently priced at 1,144 yen for a sale. She has already sold 8,479 copies for a total of 9,699,976 yen
can someone explain this to me? >>50171022
>>50175123He deserves better numbers.
>>50175360Niji probably gets another cut after the 35% cut if we are basing it on mystas tax returns and his sc income
>>50175400>17 hour voice packWait what
>>50175400>17 hour voice packImpressive. What I wouldn't give for a 17 hour Moom voicepack or audiobook
>>50175401Ask in /lig/, they are the ones dealing with Twitchers
>>50175400Numbers
>>50175021>>50175044>>50175066>>50175106>>50175107>>50175148>>50175245>>50175279based hsr thread
>>50175395>The current talent pool who debuted aren't the only ones avilableThe ones that didnt debut are probably the ones who didnt even pass the standards of the smaller corpos anon which as you said is more or less equal to tempus so the ones that didnt get to debut are worse than tempus
>>50175401she got alot of donations getting a hype train level nobody had before or something some anon accounted the amount she earned and it was about>7200 USD
>>50175400I would genocide a whole country to get access to a 17hour voice pack of Pekora.
>>50175400>17 hour voice pack>1,144 yenHoly shit what a fucking steal
>>50175448holy shit
So when is the Pekoshalom collab?
>>50175400Cover should offer to pay off her denbts to 774 and assimilate her
HONKAI BROS WE READY FOR GOLD TODAY???
>>50174770>>50175252>>50175070>>50175317I dont know if he is nousagi but when I checked he often chat on Korone livechat
>>50175456did she beat kaicenat numbers?
>>50175395>and I fucking doubt you would saying the same thing if they had the blue dorito attached to them just like you would shit on the current EN girls if they were flowing another flag.Not really since even if you switch the corpo the holo girls would still get higher numbers than the corpo girls since as you said they are more or less equal to tempus according to you
>>50175123kek, single handedly destroying any chance buff streams by Bettel or Vesper can salvage their branch numbers
>>50175395If they had the blue dorito next to them then he’d say they were great successes and probably point to their Holobox boosted CCVs and call them great successes compared to current small corporate and indie tubers. He’s just a disingenuous turd.
>>50175493Kai was over a long period of time, a hype train is basically a huge dump all at once. So no
>>50175401It's a Twitch feature used to "encourage" people to donate, and it pretty much takes over the stream. People used to call it a scam train back when I still watched Twitch, but don't know if it's become more accepted these days.
>>50175152dance practice is in full swing so there will be less streams
>>50175502It's probably Kris
>>50175422huh really? What is this extra cut for? That could square up her statements. Because no matter how you slice it, enna seems to be earning around $100k, and yet the way she talks it's like she's earning only around $70k. So there is a big gap that can only be explained by "something", either she is lying, or Niji is taking even more money.If we are trying to square her statements, it would mean that she only actually takes home about 20% of her memberships, instead of 35%.
>>501751741 block is only interesting for the first stream though, since it is challenging to survive. Once you are established it is just standing in front of the block spamming.
>>50175482Silverwolf Gold!
>>50175482New game?
>>50175123Always saw him on holodex. He impressed me. I can't help it.But I don't want to have any affection for homosEN. These niggers will destroy HoloEN, maybe not him or not today, but it will happen.
>>50175452God fucking dammit you coverdrones are so retarded. You dumbasses genuinely make me hope Cover gives up supporting EN and just go full on with those homo failure because you're so eager to say everything out there is garbage when we were literally fed the worst kind of garbage for the last 10 or so months.>>50175499Yeah, I'm sure they would be getting high numbers.>>50175502Just like all the other coverdrones. We like to joke about kris but there are people who act exactly like him.
>>50175395That's a big IF because they didn't pass at the first place.
>>50175555It's duo CollabLike raftNumber will under 50k but stagnant
>>50175482i cant stand mihoyo character design its so fucking bland for my coomer tastes bros...
I couldn't tell if HoloEN audition video targeted for EN3 or EN4 in case they already got the final member of EN3
>>50175583It won't be stagnant, past 1 block collabs always have a sharp drop.
>>50175596There is no way you can tell unless you have insider information
>>50175536>huh really? What is this extra cut for?nobody is really sure but some anons calculated mystas tax and it didnt add up because the tax he was paying was only equivalent to his superchat earnings with the 35% cutwhich is why its either theres another cut for their sc, their voicepacks arent selling so well (which is highly doubtful) or they get a lesser cut in all of their merch earnings including voicepacks.
>>50175532Most streamers just laugh at it or ignore it. At least the ones I watch. My favorite fleshtuber on twitch makes fun of it everytime it pops up. “Poggers! Can you guys give me, the millionaire, even more money?! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.”
>>50175566Hag sex
EN3 in October yeah?
>>50175581Yeah, sure, whatever. Outside good, Cover smart, Tempus is lower standards even if they were the only thing Cover had for EN last year and Yagoo is a genius. Gotta love those rotten veggies he tried to shove down our throats.
My prediction for podium today:- Gold: VSPO 3D collab- Silver: Sora birthday live- Bronze: miComet Minecraft
>>50175410model too gay for males to watch and his entire content structure was zatsu like vesper and kusoge horror shit off debut he kind of deserves his shit numbers despite his efforts in stream time.
>>50175650next year? yeah
>>50175580I mean you were the ones that were comparing the recent corpo debuts with tempus anon and it showed that they are basically just tempus level which as you said are failures so that would imply that the corpo debuts are also failures and would never pass in the hololive standard
https://youtu.be/UzAZWRt0rsA?t=2588
>>50175592Based DC enjoyer.
>>50175665I would swap gold and silver.
>>50175580>Yeah, I'm sure they would be getting high numbers.They would since as you said most of the smaller corpo girls are on par with tempus and tempus usually does worse number than the girls
>>50175400My ASMR oshi does it for free. And she's not 40 years old.
>>50175580Surely you must have figured out by now what kinda people argue like that
>>50175572My boy Shinri is the only pure Tempus left. He won't collab with the girls. I trust him.
>>50175631Yeah at the end of the day it's just another way for Twitch to try to turn their awful website profitable. I don't blame the streamers for engaging with it, but it does leave a bad taste for me personally.
>>50175360>>50174823Alright, did some basic ass spreadsheet.Let's assume Niji have the same SC split as Holo (30% yt cut and 50/50 between niji and talent).Enna has USD 182k superchat total to date.Averaging USD 3.3k monthly over 20 month since debut after yt and niji cut.Then you have membership at around 2usd (?) per month x 2.7k (low end). Which is about 5.4k usd a month. Lowballing the ratio assuming it's the same SC ratio. That's about 810 usd a month from membership.That puts her minimum at 4k a month without including merch/VP income. Which easily pays her rent anyway. I need merch data to speculate further.Makes me a bit suspicious on her plane ticket statement. She already getting 4k minimum with SC and membership. She might have meant 6k as net income if she is footing her rent on her own if we are going by median rent in Chinatown in VC/Toronto. (Averaging 6.6k monthly if we go by standard 30% rent to income ratio)
>>50175422wasn't Mysta's tax about a house he bought, not his income tax?
https://youtu.be/cjemabTJwz8Anon was right last night, about this scream becoming a meme.He just linked the wrong videohttps://twitter.com/VanillaSun_holo/status/1659490236995629057
>>50175021I love Space Sucrose
kek, got mindbroken by Suspect alreadyhttps://twitter.com/norashitagai/status/1661940031626563584
>>50175680Because it's fair to compare smaller agencies with Tempus who had Cover backing and were almost forced inside the HoloEN box, right?>>50175718I'd still rather fight against this insanity than let it become the prevailing opinion.
>Gura has less than half the hours streamed this year than Ayame, Shion and AquaDidn't realize things were so grim for the chumbuds. Gura is setting new records in lazy whoredom.
>>50175714>and she's not 40 years oldSo, inferior product.
>>50175722ShinrixFauna is a thing anon.
>>50175665what about the Niji 3D debut?
Is tonight's schedule packed? Seems a lot of overlap.Also lmao that suba sponsored stream starts at same time as Sora bd.
>>50175790Go back beggar
>>50175714>she's not 40 years old.Why even bother then?
>>50175680Retard logic. Tempiss are considered failures in Hololive. Even moreso because they were the only people being debuted for a year, and so they get to be compared with the girls because they were clearly being shilled as a replacement for a properly timed EN3. Other corpo debuts don’t have the higher ccv expectations and everyone knows that except for you apparently. As you are being intentionally obtuse with your reasoning. You also refuse to acknowledge the blue dorito buff and seemingly judge every other corpo/indie as if they do. As it is now no one is taking your arguments in good faith.
>>50175655>Doesnt like Tempus and thinks that they are failures>Thinks that the smaller corpo debuts that are on par with tempus would be successful even though they are on the same level as the rotten veggiesAnon I aint not coverdrone since even I admit that cover is retarded for debuting them but thinking that the corpo girls who are on the same level as tempus are not also rotten vegetables just because they are girls is just plane retardedthe fact that you keep trying to shill as le smaller corpo good make me think that you are one of their shills
>>50175786What the fuck?
>>50175790??? Never heard of this pair
>>50175825>images.jpeg-4.jpg
>>50175790Fanfics become more enticing the more they delve into the realm of the impossible.
>>50175650Still Christmas.
>>50175841There's disgusting haglovers here hoobros.
>>50175767>thinking that tempus having the cover brand is a buff>actually thinking that the blue dorito is a buff to male streamersHow can you even say that when idolen actually shilled their new en gen more than tempus especially with the youtube ads and the paid shilling from drama channels like false and khyo?
>>50175680>Apple creates new phone>Some unknown firm creates new phone>Apple phone massively underperform and gets same sales as phone of unknown firm>You: THEY BOTH FAILURES!
>>50175465Well she's not as good as fauna so it's that cheap.
>>50175580COVER drones are ones who are still supporting Tempus they are also pro unity fags
>>50175849Im not touching that. Won't want to be accused of rape.
>>50175737no different taxthe house thing was unclear since he wasnt clear if he was talking about the house in england or that farm in flipland
>>50175874The EN branch shilled Tempiss incredibly fucking hard, more than Council. What are you smoking?
>>50175822>refuses to acknowledge the blue dorito Holobox buffRetard.
>>50175107TRAVELER PLEASE!YOU NEED TO IMPREGNATE MY SISTER! HER EGGS ARE DRYING UP!
king status?
>>50175909Ignore the dumbfags, they appear here everyday during SEAhours to confuse threadreaders.
>>50175702Now this is good coomer design
>>50175822Oh wait you’re the rotten veggies guy. Nvm this is all been bait. Kys.
>>50175909nigga the "shilling" the did was nowhere near the shilling idolen got
>>50175735>membership at around 2usd (?) per monthHer membership is $5, it just that one of her top memership-gifters is from Mexico and donates in pesos, and the other is a massive troll who likes to spam Ars-donations (which recently stopped working), and that other guy went back to millie anyway. Besides them she has a number of chinese fans who donate Hong Kong and Taiwan dollar superchats, and one of the female gachis recently took an interest in her and started donating in some Southeast Asian meme currency. For the most part though, her donations are quite small, although recently it's been a bit higher. >merch dataShe does sell a lot of merch but I'm pretty sure Nijis don't get much from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6283XFjWgPM
>>50175830I think that's from HoloxTempus cloth swapping from a westoid shipfag artist.
>>50175666>kusoge horror shitI wish there was a Holo that does these. EN3 please, a horror junkie.
>>50175909Ignore the homobeggars anon, they're a parasitic blight on this thread, board
>>50175896You might want to touch it before Regis
>>50175946im not the rotten veggies retard the one im replying to is since he keeps using that retarded term
>>50175896Skill issue, Vesper can touch them fine, only bluefag get accused being rapist.
>>50175956can't believe Botan looks even more adorable
>>50175822Tempus got exposure infront of the biggest Hololive events yet they are still on the same level as a small corpos that's a failure on Tempus's part while small corpos are actually on their own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCzVgWH7U3oMoris star power is truly impressive
>>50175822And I'm sure you truly think Tempus was a mistake, kris.>>50175874You forgot all the shitty collabs the faggots had with the girls early on? How they lifted the collab ban one week early excusively for them to collab with EN and ID and be shilled by them? Are you so much of a fucking coverdrone that you don't see that blatant shoving of them inside the Holobox as shilling?>>50175948And it's fucking obvious that you don't think that was shilling. Yeah, appearing on the girls channels more than once weekly for over a month is nothing compared to few ads that some never watched because of a thing called adblock.
>>50176003again>blue dorito>a buff for malesin what universe anon
>>50175948They were all over the official social media, reddit, twitter and the website. What more did you want them to do? Buy ads? Cover have never done that for any gen.I'll remind you that Tempiss was almost a success off the back of that shilling too. It was Magni and Vesper who fucked up hard enough for people to turn against them. They had one job, don't be the cancer everyone thought they would be and they couldn't manage it. Their recline is the fault of the Talents, not Cover.
>>50175909He’s just mentally ill. StarsEN boys get the privilege of being comparable to the girls because Cover in their infinite wisdom wasted a year shilling only them in EN. The whole talk of a blue dorito buff though wasn’t for the boys. It was for the retard who was down talking small corpos for having comparable numbers to Tempiss, thus oddly concluding that they must be just as shit as Tempus. When anyone with 2 brain cells to run together knows that even the shittiest hologirl gets major boosts past Tempiss numbers just about any given day of the week
>>50175989>>50175978Everyone knows Blonde + Karen = Potential fake lawsuit.
More clip numbers.Split today is 16.2M(-560k) HL to 10.8M(+580k) NJ.
>>50176005WHERE’S YOUR WATAMAGE NOW
>>50176005I can't believe mori killed watame
>>50176005Watame the ambassador of EN
>>50176044Graph.
WATAME FUCKING DIED
Koyo can read english pretty fast
>>50175735>Makes me a bit suspicious onbut remember, she made a lot of other statements too about needing money after her 6 week forced-vacation. In fact she said she couldn't afford to stop streaming or she will lose too much money to pay for things (it sounded like she was going to say student loans, but also mentioned rent). I also suspect she's sending money to her mother and father, I don't know if she includes that in "her income". I bet she does though.
Watamage is kill.
>>50176016>few adsnigga that ad ran for one and a half month and had priority on vtuber related streamthat doesnt even take into account the shilling .they got from the drama channels.>Yeah, appearing on the girls channels more than once weeklyin what universe is that a buff or a shill hell you seem to forget that the homos only started bleeding after the collab with the girls
>>50176049no worries Watame will respawn in a few seconds
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>50176044Split today is 4.7M(-1.1M) HL to 2.7M(+660k) NJ.
>>50175994shit....I wanna marry "eating botan". Looks like pure wife material
>>50176005What is that outfit Watame is wearing
>>50175740God, it's such an awful joke. Cute.
>>50176105Graph.
>>50175949at 5 usd monthly x 2.7k member, she is pulling 13.5k monthly.Post YT & Niji cut (assuming she gets 35%) she is already taking 2k monthly from member. Add in 3.3k from predicted SC income, she is already getting 5.3k a month minimum at the low end.I think merch would easily push her well above 6k monthly since merch income are generally favored over SC from what i observed in general sentiments.
>>50175956Ina also has really good mouth tracking when she eatsI wonder if they chew with their mouth open or if the tracking is that good
does playboard include memberships in their money total?
dtto 1k
>>50176110Black Sheep Watame
I don't know how it work at Cover but at my place and experience from my previous job, finance department always telling us which department or branch contribute the most on making money at the end of the year.My guts telling me they got finance report from Tempus around November and decided they need new director while at the same time it was peak of Gura taking a breeak and complaints about Management.
>>50176027He won’t properly respond to this because he’s busy being a disingenuous faggot.
>>50176149No
>There are newfags who actually think that having the hololive logo on a male is a buff for themI thought everyone who came here knows that the rainbow logo is the male buff while the dorito logo is a male debuff?
>50175948Shilled hard in Holofes Literally changed the entire dynamic and somewhat changed the branding of HoloEN for the sack of Tempus.AdsSongsChanged rulesStill not shilled as much as IDOL whom nobody even knows that they are releasing a new Gen. So Tempus failed because they were not shilled enough right. Anyway what is idolen2 and when is their debut
>>50176148Sounds like mouth closed from the sounds she makes.Same as Korone, she might have set the default pose with her mouth open.
>>50175740It's interesting that despite her low numbers Lui-nee has gone viral more than any other HoloX. Her clip game is incredibly strong for a Holo with her viewership.
>>50175123and despite that he has fuck all to show for it
>>50176089I mean some of the nijien girls also made the same statements like with millie not having enough money to afford a rice cooker or i think it was rosemi or elira who wanted to buy a car but couldnt
>>50176089kek, she's just getting scammed and not by nijisanji
Beggars try to memory hole Cover full shillings the boys huh.
>>50175925Might be a hot take, but I have a feeling the homos would have been better accepted if they played the role of the bro trying to set you with the girls rather than whatever they are doing.Like if Vesper was going all out trying to ship Kronii and chat, people wouldn't hate him as much I bet
>>50176190Who is Lui again?
>>50176162It is the norm for corporations to keep track of and be aware of what and who is making the money. It is a fair assumption to make that they got their fin reports and saw that the stars are perpetual duds. Hopefully with Cover going public there is more pressure on the fags that leads to them being axed or wanting to graduate. As it is now they have been around for ages with almost nothing to show for it. Worthless.
>>50176044More clip numbers by Source.
>>50176186same as Ina, the part that makes me confused is how it tracks a closed mouth
>>50176210I'm sad. What is he lacking from being the homo's Koyori / Kaela?
>>50176026If it doesn't work then why did they change HoloEN's branding to HoloproEN
>>50176179>>50176176anon cover not shilling them would have been a better option since being associated with the blue dorito as a male is the opposite of getting shilled
>>50175592GOLDY TASTE
>>50176147>she is pulling 13.5k monthly.>assuming she gets 35%35% is after Youtube's 30% cut, and then Anycolor's 50% cut = 35%. 35% of 13.5k = 4700. When added to the superchat money, it's about $8k a month.No matter how you calculate, the best estimate of her income is 8k a month before voicepacks. But her own statement says she makes 6k a month. She could be sending 2k to her mother, but I think she's just lying.
>>50176225Did Rosemi said she buy a house?
>>50176250That... might not be so bad actually.
>>50176190I like the silly little shorts she makes and her model is pure sex.
>>50176148>chew with their mouth openThe upper and lower teeth won't connect if your mouth is open. I can't imagine how someone chewing with mouth opened.
>>50176162Wouldn't that happen at the end of financial year?
>>50176265same thing that is lacking to majority of people outside hololiveentertainment factor
>>50176265Mismatch expectation, you would think a barafag like him does coombaiting for the sisters, what you get is a comfy, wholesome chest-naked buff homie instead.
>>50176269Same reason why they had the Holopro name in jp even way back in 2020
>>50176279Yeah but one of them also wanted to get a car but was lamenting on how they couldnt afford it
>>50176098Anon, it’s not hard, think about it: If Cover has to BEG on hands and knees for the audience to give their streamers a chance (by paying for expensive ads) and also pay their **competitors** (Khyo, FalseEyeD, both UNIRONIC male vtubers) to beg THEIR audience, maybe the problem is not Cover strategy but the product they’re selling because, for the girls, they just show the models in n twitter and they get 200k subs pre debut. Maybe that’s just proof that they’re not going to get that market and that they should focus on their main product
>>50176265>lackingHe has a penis
>>50176278And again you are under the assumption that its the only cut Nijisanji gets from their livers
Rmuchhi streaming.
>>50176270But they did shill them. And people were repeatedly told that if they don't support tempus then you are an incel or an anti. Buff or not Tempus is the first gen to get songs on their first debut and they even went as far as to buy ads for them.
>>50176269cover logo is toxic to male streamer anon, that why they get lower number than their rm, it is know
>>50176049>>50176079Not even death stops the sheep. She'll have her face back in those fat tits in a mere 8 seconds.
>watching non-hololive vsinger's VOD>Looks at views counter>"Holy shit she have 18k viewer now!"...
>>50176291That's why I stated I don't know how it work at Cover. Here, we usually held annual meeting with every departement at December and presentation material already done at November.
>>50176297>Kaela>spams kusoge>Koyori>entertaining
>>50176346I mean duh that just a given anon which is why they should focus on their main product which is the girls.But it still doesnt change the fact that current talent pool and debuts for the girls are tempus level which is as we know is a lower standard than hololive
>>50176358that is the commonly accepted values. What other cut do you think they're taking?
IdolEN shills should neck themselves.
>>50175218Most of them will end up in jewcorpo or PC EN gonna be a lot of unconventional pick
>>50176289>The upper and lower teeth won't connect if your mouth is openYou can't bring your teeth together with your mouth open?
>>50176408>Koyori>entertaining mottFtfy f.Koyoslime
>>50176408Thats the thing anon even if they are unentertaining to you they are still the cream of the crop for vtubers. Everyone else is basically worse than them.
>>50175070>>50175483still no proof that he is nousagi huh
>>50176440Homobeggar diverting the attention
>>50176440Seethe
>>50176098>>50176346What sort of fantasyland retardation is this?
>>50176478When is idol 2 debuting?
>>50176419I mean its Nijisanji I wouldnt be surprised if theres a management cut aside from the corpo cut or something. Would also explain Mytas tax mystery rather than the other explanation that they get 1-2% revenue for merch including voicepacks
>>50176440based, include homobeggars too
>>50176250>homos would have been better accepted >if Vesper was going all out trying to ship Kronii and chatVesper: I think you should give Kronies a kissKronii: What! No way! *giggles**both Vesper and Kronii are in laughter*
>>50176507and phasekeks
>>50176462>>50176478Your Discord raid should figure out if it wants to remain hidden or not, but thanks for the proof you retards are in here again.
>>50176486I honestly dont know since im surprised that there are anons who still think the blue dorito is a buff for males
>>50176497When is EN3 debuting, faggot?
>>50176497i don't know, check the holo reddit
>>50176440Jewtube shilling Jewcorp, that's how they play the gamehttps://twitter.com/YouTubeCreators/status/1661835872205938714
>>50176530>using Pink Lamy for your shitposts
>>50176278You forgot taxes. Also, the cut might actually be bigger than 50%
>>50176520>discord raidI wonder if that polfag is still the moderator for the discord or if they actually hired semi professional mods
I show up and this thread is lousy with small corpo interns.
>small corp shill gets called out>resorts to holo v holo
JPs desperately trying to keep Moris heft afloat by shilling her is the most entertaining arc of 2023https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1662015670920568837
>>50176520I have a picture of an idol girl saved. If I post her picture and tell you to seethe does that mean I’m in the discord raid too? Retard. This is still Homobeggar deflection on your part, and you should be ashamed of yourself. I bet your faggot ass knows all the Idol girl names too. Lmao.
>>50176575they are afraid of holoEN3
>>50176250Homobeggars would kill themselves if that happen and my respect for Vesper going over 9000.
>>50176250man you guys are so lost in the sauce its crazythe majority of viewers are there for cgdct, if they wanted twitch whores they'd watch twitch whores
>>50176530Tsk tsk tsk. Newest low.
>>50176530>>50176547Neither of you are using the glorious Yellow Yamy
Im surprised people here criticize Riku even though Aviel is on the same level as him when it comes to being scummy.Then again I gotta give credit where credit is due and say that Aviel has balls trying to scam and grift the Israeli government in order to get Idolen funded
>>50176278My bad, excel failure on my end. But yes, it's unlikely she is making under 6k a month considering her own statements when you look at their SC & membership numbers.>>50176358This is assumptions based on low end of her numbers considering we are averaging her SC income from her debut till date. Without proof of any further cuts or difference is profit share between niji and talent, i can only use holo's ratio as baseline.Not to mention memberships is known to be a better income compare to SC? so that itself is a low end assumption.TLDR, it's very unlikely Enna makes under 6k monthly (gross).
>>50176210You know what he could do? Try to tap into the Holobox numbers.aka collab with a holo
>>50176079watame is the Kenny of hololive
>>50176607Waiting for the Yellow and Green Lamy collab
Is it just me or small corpo shill become rampant since yesterday
>>50176613>This is assumptions based on low end of her numbersThe assumption is also based on that mysta tax calculation anon
>>50176514It's not cuck play, grow up
>>50176586https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1662042840166465538THEY'RE GOING ALL OUTSHILL WATAME SHILL MORI NEEDS THOSE BLU RAY SALES
>>50176486Anon said “COVER didn’t shill Tempus because they didn’t go as far as idolEN in their shilling”. My point is that if they needed to go that far they might as well just debut five girls with 24 hours notice between announcement and first debut and get double the subs and ten times the live audience and a hundred times the revenue for less effortAnd for the record I agree with anons, pandering to an male vtuber audience through the main brand of the company is as dumb as pandering to a rainbow coalition audience through the main brand of the NASCAR audience beer, the targeted audience will reject and the original audience will resent
22JST is going to be nutty, I'm not surprised Pekora didn't bother. Korone/Mio offcollab, Micomet one block MC, Subaru sponsor, Gen 1 Outlast Trials, Luna MC, Azki Geoguessr and 3 members streams.
>>50176627yeah, like i said, they came back after the holoEN audition video, they are shilling them in the holo reddit too
>>50176627Holo audition video is scaring them
>>50176647reverse cuck play, got it.
It's 2023 and this girl still hasn't streamed at 60 fps
>>50176627Isnt IdolEN 2 debuting at the same time as the new Phase Invaders?I wonder if any of the Wactor or Kawaii jumped to those groups
>>50175825You better imply that Fauna's ASMR is good or better with that pic.
>>50176610The thing is. I don’t know anything about the Jewcorp because despite their shilling and their ads they are still largely irrelevant. It’s the Jewcorp shills fault for not doing a good enough job desu. Why/how could I shitpost about someone who doesn’t exist in the general mindchair?
cmon joshukuns, help your oshi beat the niji collab
>>50176679>60 fps google maps game kek
>>50176592>small corpos are afraid of EN3Maybe they did, but I think it's an unnecessary fear. If we put up a poll asking "are you optimistic about EN3's quality", I think the results will be mostly grim .
>>50176627I just like mocking ENfags and the fact they genuinely feel threatened by small groups like Phase Connect and Idol is genuinely hilarious to me
>>50176650>My point is that if they needed to go that far they might as well just debut five girlsproblem with that is that the current talent pool for the girls are basically tempuss level which is basically failures
>>50176684Anything Holo is infinitely better. HOLOLIVE THREAD. HOLOLIVE BOARD.
>>50175482>Genshin killer is just another GenshinKEK
>>5017669115k. But it's friday in Japan...
>>50176627They only have few months left before EN3 annoumcement
GOLDhttps://youtu.be/BwYrm_Ut7vAhttps://youtu.be/BwYrm_Ut7vAhttps://youtu.be/BwYrm_Ut7vA
>>50176710It's not just this one, all of her streams are like this. Hogwarts Legacy is 30 fps with a super low bitrate too, around 1000KBps for 1080p, I don't know if she's just retarded or her setup is on the low-end side.
>>50176714>qualityAnon, it’s cute anime girls stacking cubes to form a sort of a tree shape monstrosity, or a suspiciously alluring female form shaped beetle. Literal Nico thots and cosplay thots can pull it off and be completely competent and on brand with it.
>>50176687Only thing I know about them is from what i remember when the jew girls debuted, that one of them is a mossad who took a day off to bomb palestenian kids and that Aviel grifted and scammed the Israeli government for funds and his pet project alien girl flopping might have scared him since the jews are probably coming to collect with interest
>>50176250KFP PLEASE!YOU NEED TO IMPREGNATE KIARA! SHE HAS TWO CATS AND WANTS TO GET ANOTHER TWO!PLEASE IMPREGNATE HER BEFORE SHE BECOMES A CATMOM!SHE'S CAN BEAR HEALTHY CHILDREN! KFP, PLEASE, DO IT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
>>50176746And Genshin still make fortunes, SR might unironically kill HI3 instead.
>>50176681>Vesper cucks himself
>>50176679Human eye can only see 30FPS anyway. Movies only run 24fps and you don't notice a thing
>>50176729See >>50176779. People aren’t asking for multitalented multicompetent multilanguage multitrack drifting girls. Just debut five girls, and then debut five more.
>>50176802I will hate myself having to breed with inferior genes tho.
>>50176729Neck yourself faggot. The current talent pool would have 10k ccv or whatever the post decline equivalent for EN would be. You are just a tribalniggering retard. You could take a 2view Prism girl and she’d be as popular as Kiara or Bae in Hololive at the worst.
>>50176627kek, there's probably just1 intern for each.The rest are just the regular EN shiposters riding the wave.
>>50176836Go back connor
>>50176829I mean that didnt work out so well with nijisanji anon, just debuting five girls even though they are subpar
>>50176818Vesper can join Bae cuckSquads.
>>50176836Almost all the small corpo EN vtubers are much better streamers and content creators than anyone in HoloEN but yall not ready to have that conversation
>>50176836The most popular small corpo chuuba in the en would probably be ollie tier if they went to hololive
>>50175021>better sucrose
>>50176874this bait sucks, wtf, i thought numbers were more smart
>>50176589Shut the fuck up Idolfag.
>>50176680they are scared about en3 will comeing out of nowhere, if that happens it will cause massive damage to the small corpos momentum.
>>50176823You should google "human eyes can see how many fps" NTA
>>50176627Idolfags also exposed themselves as being the retards that keep bringing up the homos in here to try and make the thread timeloop.
>>50176874then why dont they have more people watching them?
>>50176860I guess the Holobox and all of its benefits only exist once you’re in. You know the inability to think in hypotheticals mean’s you’re basically a retard right?
>>50176874I mean if that were true then they would have bigger number than the girls yes?Thats not even taking into account that 90% of all small corpos and indies just copies whatever the big 2 does and the other 10% are just vtweeters that havent debuted after 4 years
>>50176829No! I want talented and entertaining girls for EN3, if I want to watch random uninteresting streamer then I could watch jewcorp, phase, vsj, or any variation of them.
Free Palestine!
>>50176636Wasn't paying attention when that happened (not interested in males and niji) . But let me know if my assumptions are off course, i'll recalculate again.
>>50176929>idolfags bring up homos to make timeloops>phasefags bring up nijis to make timeloopsTHEY ARE
>>50176863You're probably arguing with people that unironically want Holo to tank.
>>50175777oh nyo, have any of them mentioned being sick?
>>50176931Because all small corpo EN vtubers are actually garbage when you follow them but yall not ready to have that conversation
Did Koyo pass the Niji collab yet?
Can someone post small corpo numbers, I need something to laugh at
>>50176863Yeah, never mind the fact they debut six girls in two batches of three, in mixed gender waves. If being a “girl in manjisanji” is bad enough, imagine being a “girl in manjisanji in a manjiwave”. Even daring to compare a girl debuting in a Nijisanji mixed wave with a girl debuting in Hololive is proof of your lack of good faith in this conversation
>>50176929If idolfags are the ones doing this then I thank them. Idc about their corpo or their chubas. But I welcome all shitflinging towards Tempiss.
>>50176935>I mean if that were true then they would have bigger number than the girls yes?"I mean if that restaurant had better food than McDonalds it would have more customers right?"I admire your optimism and naivete, but the world just doesn't work that way anon.
Mahjong gold
>>50176958They decided that the best playbook they can run by is making the big corpos "fight" so fans get tired of it and look for alternatives "not involved with drama" and people still eat it up.
>>50176994Still not doing my mahjong reps
Why did people post chink gacha here
>>50176946I I remember correctly its off course when you just use the standard cut for nijisanji since anon who used that got the result that mysta earnings are just from superchats and he doesnt have any income from any other sourcesgranted this was before the whole 2% thing came to ligjt
>>50176972>t.idol internNobody wants to hear about your vtubers or the homos in here, retard.
>>50176998lol that’s pretty cool they think that way. If I got tired of the “drama” then I’d just stop watching vtubers in general or take a break. Not go out of my way to watch their shilled gutter garbage. I commend their efforts, though it is wasted here of all places.
>>50175825Patra, an actual lovable mama. Fauna, kuso roleplayer. Simple as.
>>50176970Talking about LOE anon and not the debuts after luxiem
>>50176944>No! I want talented and entertaining girls for EN3You aren’t forced to watch the girls from EN3 if they’re not as talented as you would like, you can wait until EN5 for the TRUE TALENT while people enjoy their TEN new cute surrogate companions playing Micra and Geoguessr and being cute together. There is no upside in holding the line back just because you want something different, this way you get what you want down the line and the rest of the audience gets what they want now
>>50177017Hololive cant shill Chinkges anymore so we pick up the slack
>>50177043Eat shit and die JPcuck.
>>50176989its there fault for not getting into hololivebut why didnt they make it to hololive? because they didnt pass the audition that just means they are untalentedTLDR all those not in hololive are untalented case closed.
>>50177026speak for youself since in learning something new about idol everytime they post here and how aviel is basically a discount version of riku but with more khazar than ainu blood
>>50177026It’s also great how shills have retards like this thinking everyone is a raider or an unironic shill. I don’t even know the idol girl names outside of Ren, but I think it’s funny that I’m partially your boogeyman.
Buispo 7k waiting
>>50176731And Patra is honorary Holo. Check mate atheist.
>>50177059Take your estrogen pills and go to bed sapcuck
>>50177034probably right now their threads are talking about how holofags keep hating them and etc while /hlgg/ is talking about how they want to fuck mori's tits
>>50177079>Lamy vs Lamy
>>50177046LOE worked well enough for Nijisanji, the girls they debuted were at the exact same level of the rest of the girls of their company. The same is expected for Hololive, any girls they would debut would likely perform in the exact same level as the rest
>>50176651she need to take care of her throat, so today is good time to rest
>>50177079>>50177075Fake Holofags.
>>50176592Holo EN3 member is ex NijiEN
>>50177070I mean if your that anon that keeps trying to gaslight people into thinking that the small corpo debuts are good even though they are on the same level as tempus in terms of quality then yeah i can see why people would think that you are a shill
>>50177068>>50177070>Not a raid>Actual Idolfags announce themselves and their shitposting immediately
>>50177096aadya my beloafed, please come back, i miss ur minecraft asmr and banjo streams...
>>50177080Best part is if we give it enough time with posts like yours is some seething autist will come in with and post an “AKSHUALLY” comment.
>>50177085>LOE worked well enough for NijisanjiNot really since LOE was subpar compared to their counterpart which is Myth and Council which shows that they are failuresSame way Tempus was subpar compared to their counterpart which is Luxiem and Noctyx which shows as tempus being failures
>>50176651Tbh I feel like we forgot about the “Pekora won’t stream on day where Hololive can’t get sure gold” meme. It make her sound like some sort of last line defense
>>50177117>comparing aviel to riku is a good thinganon in what universe is that considered shilling
>>50177127actually i want to fuck kronii's tits
>>50177103Get back to me when any HoloEN in the future debuts to anything less than something in the 10’s of thousands thanks to the sheer popularity and mindshare of the Holobox. Compared to someone debuting in a corporation no one has heard. Retard. Kys. Etc.
>>50176419"investment" and "management" extra cuts. Yes, some companies do that.
Sora is stronger this year. I do believe she will get 60k for her sololive
>>50177167Personally I prefer Chloe
>>50177117He still thinks I’m an Idolfag for some reason. I love the paranoid schizophrenics on this website.
>>50177080Kek would not surprise me since i was actually in a discord fan group for a small corpo and most of the posts in the general chat whenever there wasnt any streams was how they were being persecuted by hololive/nijisanji/vshojo etc
>>50177184she is stronger than roboco, she will get at least 80k
>>50176575spin the wheel!
Female streamers hours watched (~5/25) :Pekora : May 2,312,193 Q2 5,449,9162023 12,656,618JinnyttyMay 3,431,544Q2 4,893,6502023 7,247,565rivers_ggMay 1,418,859Q2 2,808,2602023 9,354,927
>>50177215its a sololive, no guests. So no
>>50177172I mean I know its a big catch for a corpo if they got a girl that is tempus level quality and how their fans would be proud and try to parade them but its kinda sad that they try to shill them as actually being good enough for hololive.
>>50176944> I want talented and entertaining girls for EN3, if I want to watch random uninteresting streamer then I could watch jewcorp, phase, vsj, or any variation of them.This.
>>50177244Ankimo alone is enough of a buff to help her reach 80k
>>50177025Sounds reasonable actually if we consider the fact you have tax deductibles and business expenditures that we aren't including in the assumption when it comes to mysta's tax. Even on assumptions they are taking less than standard cuts, there is still Enna's home rental to consider. It's unlikely she is paying solo a 2k median rent with less than 6k monthly income with money to spare to put into retirement fund.
I know some of you watch Idol so I got a questionIs ghost guras russian handler still visible on her streams/chats or has he taken a backseat approach?
>>50177268EN3 will be all Lolis. Gen3 will be called Creampie!
Why is ollie playing holocure? Is there an update?
>>50177191Based, Kuroe have the most realistic shape imo.
>>50177135>Not really since LOE was subpar compared to their counterpart which is Myth and Council which shows that they are failuresAnon, it is deeply insulting for Hololive that you even say the words “LOE” and “counterpart” in relation to their girls. It’s akin to comparing a second division team with peak Real Madrid or Barcelona. I’m starting to doubt your sincerity if you really think a “girl in manjisanji” compares in any possible way with the Holo girls or that they play in the same league at all. They’re not in the same league. Hololive could debut 5 girls right now and they would likely perform in subs, like audience and revenue in the same expected range of the other 10 girls, with a degree of variation between the least performant and the most performant, but with all of them greatly outperforming the whole rest of the industry. As for Tempus, they’re failures not because they can’t reach the same level as a “boy in manjisanji”. They’re failures because, even with all the opportunities they were given, some are failing to reach the level of a “boy in Holostars”, which is the lowest level in the whole industry except for SonyTubers, assorted indies and Hajime
>16K waiting
>>50177305ankimo is a fat fuck
>>50176998That honestly true
Are we being raided by Mossad?
>>50175174can they beat pekomari one block? how high was that
>>50177354She wants to play holocure
>27kit's over
>>50177399Nah more like ADL
zerokisei gold (migo)
>>50177357Absolute perfection. Her designer watched a thousand hours of JAV and visited hostess clubs and oiran houses across Japan to study the perfect shape and flow
>>50177401I vaguely remember like 70k+. And they will certainly need a boost cause historically Micomet always trail behind PekoMari with the same content
>>50177401like 87k
>>50177314>Sounds reasonable actually if we consider the fact you have tax deductibles and business expenditures that we aren't including in the assumption when it comes to mysta's tax.Would still not add up especially if you consider the all those trips and offcollabs that they did including the JP trip Whats even worse is people havent even considered that Mysta might have dual citizenship which means he also has to pay flip tax as well
Struggling to sleep numberbros. Can you recommend me your favourite comfy stream, ASMR or otherwise from your oshi
>>50177376>chinko
>>50176804Isn't the main story already finished anyway
VSPO 32k
>>50177430Give me back my first impressions. This girl is a fucking slut!
>>50177371Anon thats the thing, they should and can be in the same league since Hololive and Nijisanji are more or less the same size. The only thing that is holding that back is the fact their mindset and the quality vs quantity business model.
>>50177401no way pekomari is rare event. Both peko and marine are stronk and latter has return buff too iirc
>>50177476these 2 months are Vspo charge to be the 2nd top vtuber agency in Japan. I think they are making great case for it
>>50177476amE is so cute, truly Faunas sister
>>50177476Reminder that we hate Towa and Beni here and love Tsuna and Nose
>Nijikeks cannot control Nijiniggers from running to VSPO3D. KeK
>>50177507Uhhhh no one have return buff on that collab wtf are you on
Aki's using her home3D and it's changing brightness and hue depending on what's on screen, it's cool for a horror game like this
>>50177488shut the fuck up and move your hand faster
>>50177371>and HajimeFuck you, you made me spit my drink.
>>50177507PekoMari is quite literally monthly event for the Holobox lol. They collab once a month without any foreshadowing
Remember to thank Coco every day for pulling cover out of the shithole known as China
>>50177476HOL UP amE that big???
>>50177547He's not wrong. Chloe was supposed to be cutesy and mysterious yet ended up a slut, probably the most change to her initial debut next to Laplus.
>>50176610At least Aviel didn't give me 12 faggots in sequence without a single new girl in-between.
This is the SEX unit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTQyZ70TCQ
>>50177583You sure it's monthly now? Maybe it is never paid attention. But before pekomari one block, peko and marine have not been 1on1 for a very long time. I think I remember things correctly, do I?
https://cgworld.jp/flashnews/holoearth-0526.htmlInterview with 3 people working on holoearth, mostly technical focused.
>>50177354sooner rather than later, also its not a bad 'filler' game if you don't feel like MC and there isn't anything else that catches your eye on the perms list.
>>50177669Manager is probably feeling vindicated for pushing for 3D now
>>50177606She said herself that being soft is one of her strong points
>>50177606If you mean chest then yeah, she's like 3rd or 4th in the company
>>50177606Always has been.
>>50177618>CutesyAnon, given her design she was already going to lean into the sexy angle if she wanted to play to it's strengths.
>>50177595But think about those Luxiem money
>>50177669They keep covering Ema with text.I can't forgive this.
>>50177669>gozaru
People showing interest in VSPO are unironic retards.
>>50177740They hate amE cause she leans into cgdct the most
wat. Did subaru delay her sponsored stream by 1 hour?
>>50177740New Noah is ugly
>>50177545Doesn't VTube Studio have automatic mode for that?
rumao when will the japtard from tempiss learn nobody fucking cares about his interactions with jp
>>50177783https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1662036683368570882Management asked her to not overlap Sora
>>50177595CN market >>>>>> Indog market
>>50177794all their 3d model sucks
>>50177776Dumb nijinigger
>>50177776Seething small corp intern or nijinigger?
>>50177794She's pretty hot... Also it's been like 2 years.But old Noah was a puppy.
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1662055140206215170
>>50177695Speaking of it has anyone uploaded this yet or should I do that myself?
>>50177813>NijiEN hands wrote this.
>>50177629>At least Aviel didn't give me 12 faggots in sequence without a single new girl in-between.>he doesnt knowmaybe ignorance trully is bliss
>>50177806Good call from management. I think Sora deserves this kind of respect and treatment.But some anons told me the streaming time of sponsored stream cannot be changed. So this is not true huh
>>50177842Put it on sadpanda
45kI think this is the first time I saw someone seething at VSPO here
Man, Cover's employees look kinda...
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
>>50177832holy semen demon
Anycolor: "A court case has been filed against us on the charges of Exploitation and Malpractices."Expect something similar sometime soon!!!!!
>>50177816>Seething small corp intern or nijinigger?is there even a difference at this point
>>50177446Those trips can be reported under business expenditures. A lot of content creators park a lot of their expenses under that to lessen their tax.Ultimately, we have no info what other cuts Niji is taking from SC or membership. It's better to assume on what we know than guess what we don't know.
>>5017786211 and a mentally ill girl. Better now? Or you prefer 10, a mentally ill faggot and a mentally ill girl?
you fags keep sucking vspo balls yet you shit on actual small companies who are not black like them
>>50177889Fair point, throw in homobeggar and it's the shitposting trifecta, an axis of evil
>>50177869It can be changed. Suisei delayed her sponsored stream for Shion's 3D for example.
>>50177891>. It's better to assume on what we know than guess what we don't know.I mean we do know that nijisanji takes a bigger cut than the industry standard so its probably safe to assume that they get bigger cuts in sc as well
>>50177873I would need to scan it first
>>50177904I shit on trashy western grift corps because they're awful
>>50177869It depends on the terms. Some sponsors might want a certain time, some a certain time frame.
>>50177449If you're not shitposting, Mio uke stream, most recent is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOGA1T-hqw
>>50177904>you fagsI am not retarded like them.
>>50177869There's some leeway with these sorts of things, and if you can convince a sponsor that being an hour later (and thus not overlapping someone's 3d Live) makes more sense, then you can try for it.
>>50177897>he is unaware i hope you keep that childlike innocence anon
>>50177878why does their 3D stream look more interesting than Laplus bd 3D variety show
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZdSp8uz2uTE?feature=shareOh hey nabi is live
>VSPO intern shilling real hard in a /#/ threadWhat brings about such a mental illness?
>>50177695Man, I'm sexy
>>50177886You can't just fucking drop something so scandalous without any details you faggot.
>>50177921Man I will always find it funny that idolfags used tempus as a standard of quality for their girls
>>50177806It is still mind blowing to me, that talents are forced to not stream over Holostars 3D debut but they can overlap their own girls 3D live
>>50175822>I aint not coverdrone>plane retarded
Vspobros... where is our 150k?
>>50177880cult?
>>50177960And I hope you end up killing yourself.
>>50177988ANON IM GOING TO RAPE YOU WITH MUCH LOVE
>>50177982>vspo internits probably noseschizo
>>50177808>CN>marketLol
>>50178004LOL. THAT'S RIGHT. WHERE DID THE NUMBERS GO?
>>50177995But didn't you know, Cover is super smart and none of their decision are bad according to this thread. Putting an overlap rule in place was an obvious great move, just like shoving 12 faggots down out throats when we just wanted new girls.
>>50177995I mean they can overlap Holostar 3D live too
>>50177880Good to know Cover has it's own salute, should I start using it?
>>50177880male?
>>50177808>rentfree
>>50177695im calling dibs on this one
>>50177988>Literally same 3D style and coloring as Genshin
>>50177880>Nazi hand sign
>>50177997>not thinking that both cover is retarded for their homo pandering and idolfags thinking that idolen being on the same quality as tempus is somehow a good thinganon pls
>>50177988That's Kanata tier booba
>>50178085Too late bitch, I got her crotch shots already
>>50178085Sure thing u can have the picture anon.
>>50177988>Cuter than Mcflaygon
>>50178098>as Genshin
Ready for Enna to snatch gold from Kronii?
>>50178098actually BOTW, which genshin copied in the first place
>>50177904Oh yeah because small companies definitely can’t be black companies! Great logic, shill
>Tries to shill idol while shitting on the stars and hololiveWait I just realized, Is this anon Gabe? Did he go back to the leprechaun chuuba after his shitty luck with Oceanne and that green eien chuuba?
I'm gonna be so cute wearing holo's outfits
Chloe is playing a crane machine remotely?
>>50176675>>50176910Mental retardation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZsHLWXeXYoReminder Cover is wasting money on Metaverse crap when they could've used those resources to debut EN3, EN4 and EN5.
>>50178098>as genshinanon genshin copied from zelda
>>50178203Retard
>>50178199Yeah, Holos do it all the time when they have a partnership with them.
>>50178199How fucking new
>>50178166>RebroadcastSure...
>>50178181Flat so Suisei/Matsuri/Kanatan outfit fits.
>>50178119I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and I don’t care. I didn’t even read the posts. I was pointing out the ESL grammar.
>>50178098t.Genshit trannie.
>>50178168Nah I remember BOTW coloring is not as vibrant
>>50177904>small corpos cant be black companieswactor...idolen israel branch...
>>50178199hownewdotru?
Nijinigger goes mad everyday since 1%
>>50178063Anon, most of the thread agrees when they say the overlap rule for the fags is a retarded move, and only the most the obnoxious of homoshills and shitposters have argued otherwise.
>>50177595You are retarded. China wanted holo out. Coco was just a scapegoat to pull it off
>>50178229All I ever need, now I can be my oshi
>>50178199How new? Even fleshstreamers play this
>>50175482>Stream deadyeah good luck with your b2 stream anon
>>50178251dont even bother that guy is probably a small corpo shilltheyve increased their visiblity ever since that en3 hint
>>50175482Not beating Genshin
>>50178203holoearth is a platform to sell/show online concerts, everything else is just a plus
>>50177933Holo is not industry standard, everything we know shows them as exceedingly generous with talwnt renumeration. We know VOMS, Vshojo and Niji all pay like shit or not at all for merch and I don’t think we have any leaks or breakdowns of talent share for corps like Vspo, 774 or the various western corpos like Phase. If anything Niji’s 2% is industry standard and Cover are the freaks.
Aki almost on the tally. Just a bit more...
Seems like 47k is their peak, I was hoping for 50k
>>50177237does pekora have a chance to win Q2 ?
>>50177904>literally cute girlsI don't think you understand the meaning of words
>>50177880Wtf... is it just me or this is some weird shit
A kino se is speedrunning the game, quite literally...
>>50178229But how would Noel or Chloe outfit work now?
>>50178341Normal in japan believe it or not
>>50178306>attempting to drag everybody down to your level
>>50178313Reminder all of four of them have boyfriends.
>>50178251And I'll keep repeating it until HoloEN3 finally debuts.>>50178289You sure got me, coverdrone. But how are you faggots doing today? Being 3view failures that nobody asked for?
>>50178305>holoearth is a platform to waste money instead of debuting more EN and ID gensfixed that for you
>>50178341What's weird about it?
>>50178070Be sure to open your hand when doing so as well, do it in an open area too.
>>50178359Yeah, me
>>50178341at least it's not as weird as those wallmart videos
>>50176265Not being a girlYes, it IS that big of a disadvantage in the chuuba industry
Today is Sora vs Niji 3D?
Is the Anon who keeps track of each Holo's top 10 streams around? Would like to see Sora's before her Solo 3D later.
>>50178359Noah got dumped, lol.
>>50178384they are not mutually exclusive, dont fault holoearth for the retardations of en management
The Fubucock will make my Mugyu Mugyu wife reach the tally this time!
>>50178004We dont bot these as hard
>>50178313>Roberu's Onaholes
I have a playlist dedicated to streaming Astel's songs. I decided to keep track of the views it gained each day of watching all 48 videos, and found out YouTube never counts more than 40 views. The views increased by 36, 39, 36, 37, 40, 39 and 38 for each day of last week
>>50178306No industry standard for content creators is 10-15% anon that has always been the standard for groupsVshojo uses the lions cut standard which ive seen some groups do (usually smaller to medium size ASSFAGGOTS teams do it)For Voms If i remember correctly it was a slightly better version of the nijisanji cut.Dont know about 774 but im assuming VSPO uses the fps cut especially in tournaments.Dont really know anything about phase cuts.If Anything Nijisanji is the outlier here considering that their Music contract is more jewish than regular Music Label contracts which is already know to be very jewish.Theres a reason why the 2% was such a big deal anon because even most of the nijifags I interacted with when i asked them that thought that the cut was 5% at worse.
>>50178359Thanks for reminder kind bro.
>>50178422soras record was some 84k is all i remember, but it was weekend buff, guests and 3d on actual birthday/anniv
>>50178337only if China invaded Taiwan and she's forced to cancel her daily 12 hour walking streams that does 150k wh a day
>>50178486The waiting room looks like a 60k
>>50178313This looks sorta creepy with how everyone smiling with the same face.
>>50178306Didnt pippa make a passing comment about the 2% drama an said something along the lines of it being unbelievable? So im assuming phase has a better contract than that.
>>50178386The raised hand gestureLooks like a terrorist organization
>>50178455He's only spent time with Sumire and Lisa there. And they're both bigger than him.
>>50178459youtube only counts a repeat of 5 views on the same video from the same person a day. But of course bots, farmers and fujos can bypass that by fooling the system in changing ips, no acc loged in, multiple devices, etc
vspo got 50k on charades
>>50178487>only if China invaded Taiwanyeah imagine the buff man
>>50178306Not really since anycolor is the only corpo vtuber that I know that had to have their employee beg on stream on their audience in order to get money for a medical procedure. Not even Sony, 774 and Gamebu stooped that low
>>50178561I didnt check their RM yetAre they really that fat?
https://twitter.com/mogu_codeerror/status/1661635232888680448?s=46Line for Suichan crane game
This game really makes me think of the Saw game on the PS3. Good vibes.
>>50178337No chance, although she can still hold tightly to 2nd place
aki 10k!
aki 10k
>>50178341What's weird about it, this is like your typical Austrian artists meeting place.
>>50178358>But how are you faggots doing today? Being 3view failures that nobody asked for?I think they are still on the same level and quality as idolen which is such a failure on both companies
>>50176005Watamage is kill
>>50178603No that's Hinano
>>50178604>4800 yen>got 8 I fucking hate him
>>50176874> Almost all the small corpo EN vtubers are much better streamers and content creatorsoh it's the rimjob schizo, did you finally get your fat ass accepted into a "corpo" now?
>>50178566if i remember correctly the easiest and simplest way was to refresh at the 30 second mark
>>50178614>austrianMore like cuban
>>50178561zamn, they're futa? my son boi bussy ngmi...
>>50178574I thought it was a Z since my counter kept showing 47k
>>50178639Congrats. You saved 4800 yen.
>>50175021/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from the last thread:>Music Verse Buzz Rhythm live 2023, Mori and Suisei to collab with Creepy Nuts & Fujifabrichttps://twitter.com/clan_vtuber/status/1661962899848568833>Interview Holoearth Devs https://cgworld.jp/flashnews/holoearth-0526.html>Koyori & Noel interview in Dragon Quest guide bookhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1662035857199742977>Neo-Porte X FamilyMart promo eventhttps://twitter.com/famima_now/status/1662005659825766403>Vshojo to join Nijigen Expo Malaysia as wellhttps://twitter.com/NijigenExpo_/status/1661960956333948928>Old news>Anycolor won a court case against Antihttps://twitter.com/ANYCOLOR_Inc/status/1661567806335520770>HoloEN audtion videohttps://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1661205381908164610>Holoearth Protolive #2 announced, July 15th, JST, Miko, Ayame, Fubuki & Mio https://twitter.com/Holoearth_JP/status/1661709419334488064>Roberu offline event at Tokyo Culture Culturehttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1661689031921647616>NijiEN 3D performance at Anime Expo 2023, July 2nd PDThttps://twitter.com/AnimeExpo/status/1661809440000016397
>>50178643wait the small corpo schizo is the rimjob schizo? fucking kek wasnt he supposedly rejected from the iLuna auditions?
>>50177933It seems unlikely to deviate too much from holos take when it comes to SC and membership ratio. It would be very sad if that's the case considering holos have some base salary, better sponsorship, merch and management/infra support.Niji is most likely taking a larger share due to lower operating cost for their talent. Probably why they can debut wave after wave without much worries.
>>50178662Noah and Runa are the only males in vspo, actually
>>50178359Where do you think you are EN cuck?
https://www.youtube.com/live/cssa7mwYJxM>Mori FuriNoombers?Potential of JP/ID also playing the game?
>>50175113it's coming up on the end of the month, there's usually a full day meeting set around this time
>>50178619Cool, so you like the plate of shit Cover served you then?
>>50178603No for Noah, Lisa, and Sumire. I don't know about Ema.
>>50178682we had a few graduation announcement yesterday if you caught them?
>>50178650It'd be faster to do that, but I want my views to make the algo think it should recommend Astel's videos, so I'd rather watch them entirely
>50178359This but the holoEN whores
>>50178566why did they do that, 5 views a day for a 4 min song is just 20 mins... when I like a song I usually play it the whole dayYoutube has destroyed their own views algo just because they hate Kpop
>>50178717No thats why I dont like tempus anon, same reason why i think the girls that debuted in small corpos would be a failure in hololive since as you said their quality as on par with tempus which has a lower standards than hololive.
>>50178543>Looks like a terrorist organizationthey are, they terrorize niji and another small corpo
>>50178359>deletedso it was true? kek
>>50178767So you're fine with no Hololive debuts for over a year while Cover served your a bunch of boring ass faggots then?
>>50178731I think the graduation tracker anon has that covered for the time being even though I think he missed one. I'll just keep on posting mostly JP graduations that anons linked here.
>>50178744be carefull though if for some reason yt anti bot ai sees that its a little sus they actually roll back the numbers more than the times you try to refresh it
8 minutes!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtbVQjUesq4
>>50178779They terrorize mostly holos though
>>50178762because otherwise the kpopniggers would just put the thing on loop on multiple devices like they are mining for bitcoiunt
Sora 7k waitingFura 5k waiting
>>50178804I only go through the playlist once every day or the other, so it should be fine
AKI 10k??? DORYAAAAA! HAGS OWNS HOLOLIVE!
49k ccv
poll engagement
>>50178746>>50178359Sorry I'm new to 4chan
>>50176874>Almost all the small corpo EN vtubers >Almost all Anon's rage is immeasurable
>>50178762because otherwise youd be a bot! (bots and kpop still bypass that anyways)
>>50178800>So you're fine with no Hololive debuts for over a year while Cover served your a bunch of boring ass faggots then?I mean considering the debut options from last year and this year that have debuted in other corpos is on the same level as the tempus ass faggots? yeah. Idealy I rather have them disband and thro w tempus in the garbage but since thats impossible for now the next best thing is rather have them take their time and find people to that fit the hololive standards than lower the standards to tempus level and have those tempus quality girls debut in hololive.
>>50176966oof
>>50178687Posting style is word to word, but she uses "coverdrone" as a new buzzword.100% sure she got into one of the small corpos, which is why she's shilling them. Probably IdolEN.
>>50178865Numbers like these make the Hololive culling so obvious, this type of engagement is normal but in Holo streams you get 90%+ poll participation every single time
>>50178762>kpopThey love kpop thoughAnd they constantly promote itThe views are also very goodThey did it because they hate hololive
>>50178359post gone so it's true?
When was the laat time ID overlapping 3D Live?
>>50175483So no proof that he's a nousagi
>>50178898kek this is probably it
Sorry nabi mama, was nice to watch you but I'm now legally obligated to watch Sora
>>50178898>100% sure she got into one of the small corpos, which is why she's shilling them. Probably IdolEN.Jesus that would be grim for IdolEN since if im not mistaken rimjob schizo was also a huge tankie and twittertard Hopefully Idolen has at least some level of quality control and drop the schizo
>>50178893So you're happy with Cover shoving their shit sandwhich down your throat for 6 months and expecting you to like it just like you would a new HoloEN gen? Did you like them trying to force themselves into the Holobox? Did you enjoy Cover having to make a public statement to defend their stupid decisions? Are you truly okay with all the bullshit they tried in 2022?
>>50178898Would make sense, would also make sense why they vanished for a bit, they didn't want to risk getting canned before debut.
did we talk about this yet?
10k waiting for Sora
>>50178866Sus
>>50177499>since Hololive and Nijisanji are more or less the same size.THEY’RE FUCKING NOT! They’re leaders in completely different markets. Here is the best sports analogy that I can make: if vtubers were the FIFA World Cup, Hololive would be the equivalent of Brazilian soccer national teams (at their peaks, not the current scrubs) and Nijisanji, the United States. Brazil male national squad won the prestigious FIFA World Cup five times (hexa never ever) and, at their peak, they were second to none.Sometimes other teams could snag a victory here and there, with France even beating them for the World Cup in 1998 but, during their dominating period, they were pretty much unrivaled. In the approx same time frame the United States **female** national squad was one of the strongest in the world (and still is) and they won the female world championship four times in total. But for both those squads, their opposite gender counterparts are middle of the pack, with Brazilian female national team and American male national team being happy about being there, and advancing from the group stages. Now, and here is the thing: just because US female team has four World Cups, almost the same as Brazil’s male five World cups, it doesn’t mean they’re remotely close in strength and prestige because female soccer is not competitive and not prestigious at all. They’re not the same size, even if they dominate their respective niches. Male vtubing is just like female soccer. Even their biggest star is just a big fish in a small irrelevant pond, while female vtubing (and Hololive in particular) is the greatest show on Earth. Hololive alone has 35 of their girl vtuber channels over 1M subs, Nijisanji doesn’t even have ten of their boys. Even if they have a star in Kuzuha, he’s just the equivalent to the most successful female soccer player of the world: a nice accolade for an irrelevant feat>In 2017 the under-15 FC Dallas boys squad beat the US Women’s National Team by a landslide: 5-2. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/That’s the level of difference between male and female soccer teams, and that’s the difference between Holo girls and Niji boys, and between Hololive and Nijisanji overall. They might be leaders of their respective markets, but Hololive is the one in the big league
>>50178983>1:30pm>6pmKek
>>50178898Hope you're happy with the garbage you were served last year, coverdrone :^)
>>50178924youtube have multiple departments constantly in war with each otherfor example main youtube depo loves to nerf all of youtube gaming and streams ccv, but they are also the ones who poach big twitch streamersprogrammers depo hate kpop and all their bullshit bottingcontent curator trannies love to promote their faggot kpopshorts depo wants youtube to invest all resourcs on them despite barely making any money at alletc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtbVQjUesq4Live!
Sora is live!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtbVQjUesq4
>>50178983I dont know why anykara debuffs themselves like thatThey are going to get mogged so hard
>>50178983yea a little bit
>>50179012> thinking I even watch ENgood luck with your crusade though
Oh it's live live
oh great they fucked up the audio again
shit audio, must be on the new studio
>>50178979>So you're happy with Cover shoving their shit sandwhich down your throat for 6 monthsAnon I never said I was happy which I why Its actually better that they didnt get those small corpo girls since they are basically the same quality of shit sandwhich like tempus but only with them being girls
>>50178999Okay anon that’s nice and all but please consider that you’re typing big paragraphs about anime YouTubersAnyways Sora time
>>50178983only pathetic sore losers takes this as a win btw
one of my favorite song!!
How fucking hard can it be to do audio.
I hope Sora will have a few more Holo guests this time around.She usually invites her oldfag friends for her big events.Though idk how many holos would be comfortable with "Live" lives.
Did Miko really schedule the micomet one block to funnel from a birthday live?
>>50179053It's going to be a rough learning process since they have to figure everything at the new studio....
>>50179055Fuck you faggot. You posted this same shit almost word for word earlier and you conveniently ignored half of what was posted at (you). Eat shit. I get it’s trolling idol faggots but the people you’re responding to don’t give a fuck about idol either and just think you’re a retard.
I miss the prerecorded concerts...
>>50179082Just Ankimo
>>50179012> :^)Oh fuck it’s kson no wonder you’re going schizo over Cover
>>50178983It's like those no choice 2nd hand brand because you short of 10$ to get the real thing.
>>50179090of course she did
only reason i won't complain too much about the audio is because>new tech they are probably learning how to use/understand.because how many 3D lives were hosted in the new studio so far?2 right?
niji 3D instant 50ksora birthdaylive underperforming at sub 30k currently
Fura 45k in 2 minutes
>>50179101I like live lives better.
Wait... so rimjob schizo is actually kson?
>>50179024it's not even in the same league consideirng it's a sideshow of a con and not a dedicated event like the holo concert
>>50178983nijisis... just what the fuck are the chink management doing?
>>50178979>anon complains about tempus being shit sandwiches being shoved down the throat for 6 months>but is somehow ok with the same quality of shit sandwiches like tempus that will also be shoved down the throat for 6 months just because they are girlsI dont get it, You dont like tempus because they are shit sandwich quality but is totally ok with the same level of shit sandwich just as long as they are girls?
>>50179033Thanks, I might need it. Too many retards in this thread are overlooking Cover's insane decisions and refusing to accept they were treated like utter garbage.>>50179055Cool, so you truly liked the absolute garbage that were thrown at your face. I'm glad that we could reach a mutual understanding of your position.>>50179111I doubt Kson would be so strongly against the homos.
>>50179133>>50179140So just like the previous one which was sub 70k right?
>>50179090Suisei and Miko were busy yesterday
>>50179082i dont there are any guests
>>501790763 lives with audio issue. And audio is not gundam science. How do I have faith in EN3? When they can't get small things done correctly
>>50179133200k ccv here we go again
lol at Jewish math on their official website>Riro>200000 subs>reality: 26900
lol Sora is telling them it's wrong
>>50179145not if I have to deal with audio issues like this.At least with pre recs they can iron this stuff out before it goes live. We shat on the okayu concert but at least that was because "artistic vision" and not because they fucked up
>>50178983A bit. I'm holding on to my judgment until I see if Lazulight actually uses 3D and not just home3D karaoke.
nijigold nijiworldtoo easy
Hologram Sora!
>Hololive's daisenpai is going to be mogged by a VTA graduate runt on her 3D birthday livelmaoooo
>>50179100No i did read the last half and I don think that cover debuting the corpo girls whose quality is on the same level as tempus is just as bad as them debuting tempus. Male or Female if its shit quality its shit quality anon.
>>50179090Did Pekora really schedule the chatgpt stream to funnel from a birthday live?
>>50179176there's 2 at least
>I'm membered to sorawhen the fuck did that happen?
>>50179190heh
>>50179166>>50179055Is a troll. He’s had this conversation verbatim earlier and only responds to certain points so that it revolves around idol being shit with no other meaningful input.
>>50179185nice bait.you somehow tied in EN3 into something very far and unrelated to ghe audio issues
Sora's reps is lacking
Sora no, don't play out the lyrics!I want Sora and not a hologram Sora!
>>50179208Nijibots
>>50179004Its in PDT time, but I hate using PDT time so I'll convert everything to JST.That's basically:4:30 AM for Nijisanji9:00 AM for Hololive
Sora without guests will not have as much of a pull.Niji gold I guess.
>>50179166>Cool, so you truly liked the absolute garbage that were thrown at your face>Its ok if its the same quality of garbage that was thrown at your face as long as its a girlI mean i know small corpo fans have to lower their standards but even thats too low for me anon
>>50179133Sora has very little pull on her own. I wouldn't call it underperforming.
>>50179163I never in my post said anything about Idol, anon. I'm just saying that you people are too focused on bad quality out there when Cover straight up gave you the bottom of the barrel but you're too focused on shitting on other agencies than accepting your favorite couldn't give less of a shit about what you wanted.>>50179247>>50179284Hope you're enjoing Rust :^)
>>50178682why cant nijigen afford holos?
And that's the podiumUnless Micomet overperforms
AI made this
Fuck it I will be a nijinigga today and say "hololive technology in shambles"How do you think it isnt?
Where is Pekora by the way?
>>50179273Hey Micomet one block is still there and is going to be Hololive trump card todayDon’t worry about it
sora still has a chance, 3D debuts are front loaded unless they bring in lots of popular guests.
https://sanrio-animestore-a3.jp/user_data/apology230526Sanrio messed up some of the holo merch, sent some people who bought Okayu's glass an Ayame instead.
Sora might've stood a chance, but can't blame people who don't want to listen to this. Cover are doing her dirty.
>>50179269No I mean they deliberately pick an earlier time than HoloConnect so now Connect is the third vtuber concert in the US
>>50179247>pointing out that he's ok with idol girls which are on the same garbage quality as the tempus boys is a retarded take is somehow a troll response nowI will never understand you fagsYour ok with garbage as long as its girls?
>>50179327ESLkun...
>>50179190fucking kek are they actually using ky0resu's subs as their own?
How can hololive learn the magic of 0 waiting room cull?
>>50179324I dont think miComet can do it, today's streams are packed
>>50179324>>50179334miComet silver/bronze
>>50179133>sora birthdaylive underperforming at sub 30k currentlyIt's not underperforming, here is Sora's top 10 streams so far before this one>peak :: date :: title :: video_id>84063 :: 2022-09-07 :: 【#ときのそら5周年記念】想いをこめて届ける3D配信! :: TjGC7Jzc5ns>58725 :: 2022-05-15 :: 【#ときのそらお披露目誕生日2022】HappyMeowthday!!な3D配信!! :: hrpubiRwB-k>50956 :: 2022-12-25 :: 【#ホロクリスマス歌枠リレー】楽しいクリスマスにしよう!! :: EnYLu8KDtGo>46483 :: 2021-09-07 :: 【3D配信】4周年記念ミニライブ :: s7hakOSsU-I>42809 :: 2022-10-30 :: 【ハロウィンお披露目3D】#そらのハロウィンパーティー :: 8aqY3tf4Zcg>37740 :: 2023-01-29 :: 【#ときのそら100万人への軌跡】思い出振り返り、これからに向けて・・・ :: IYlN1ellaCU>36024 :: 2020-09-07 :: 【#ときのそら3周年】わたしの新しいお化粧お披露目します :: lPlKT418bKA>31552 :: 2021-03-03 :: 【新衣装お披露目】わたしと一緒にデートしよ? :: f6ZtHsHHTvA>27350 :: 2021-05-15 :: 【お誕生日】BirthdayLive2021 :: lXdX1S1-Mxc>24583 :: 2022-05-14 :: 【逆凸あるよ】誕生日カウントダウン配信!! :: 06IP9aV9_m4Today live might land between 50k and 58k and I would be surprised if it came close to the 84k in her top position
>>50179331Take a day off to go sign on the new studio wall
imagine selling 23% of your company to completely downgrade the quality of your biggest events
>>50179324NoIt's nijigold today Micomet late night, already pass JP peak hour
>>50179331https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1661981268031180805
>>50179347Are you talking with the voices in your head?
>>50179374they need to buy bots
>>50179388>biggest eventsThis is not HoloFes or Suisei's live though
>>50179374lol
Would you take her hand?
>>50179395The rabbit run away
i quest it dificult to get people to sing it live,
Gaijin on screen
>>50179406If you think this audio quality is good you're retarded, go watch VSPO's 3Ds and compare just how much better a small indie company like them are
>>50179334>one blockCopying PekoMari huh?
>>50179431The hand might be on focus but the bellybutton steals the show
>>50179363Eh my grammar checker didn't show anything wrong
>>50179311>Cover straight up gave you the bottom of the barrel but you're too focused on shitting on other agencies than accepting your favorite couldn't give less of a shit about what you wanted.Thats the thing though the bottom barrel shit quality shit that your are on about is more or less the same quality as with the current small corpo debuts. I dont know how you cant get that debuting garbage whether its male or female will always be bad, it doesnt matter if its tempus or those girls that are on par with tempus anon, garbage will always be garbage
>>50179435Lol same can be said about Miko yesterdayThe point is there is no “running away”, only this thread think so because we think in tally
>>50179454>pls watch vspopathetic shill vspokek
>>50179415it is to Sora. she's also going to be revealing a new outfit today
>>50178983>>50179354>>50179073>Niji performing in a small convention room>Holo performing in this placeAnyone that tries to treat it as some sort of Niji win is deluding themselves.
honestly, doing a live live was a mistake
>>50179311Sorry that people already recognize you. How long until you loop back to “Tempus = Idol both are shit.” Next thread?
>>50179435Your parents ran away from an abomination like you
>>50179193It's about the sincerity.
>>50179454>a small indie company like them>VSPOkek
>>50179454>small indie company
>>50179456A lot of holos already done this 1 block challenge before
>>50179483Stop with lame excuse paqpaq
>>50179448based
>>50178999>THEY’RE FUCKING NOT! They’re leaders in completely different markets.No their leaders in on market which is the vtuber marketThere might be different sub sector or micromarkets but the bottom line is that they are both leaders in the same marketThe only difference is the midndset
Sora's heavy breathing...Cover's double ending of blackout...
>>50179494If they can make you believe it's live live then it's a big win for them
40k DORYAAAAAAAAA! RUN NIJINIGER! RUN!
>>50179483Miko had a recording yesterday.
Sora panting into the mic is making me diamond. I need help anon.
>>50179498I wonder if that anon is actually Gabe
No I think it's just Sora's voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGC7Jzc5ns
>>5017938284k is way too high without guests she won't come anywhere close to that. For being just Sora it's performing about as well as expected.
>>50179533>their leaders in on market>in onPick one, anon
>>50179506And u come from PaqPaq factory
Sora!
>>50179448why did they model his eye to look like an autistic kid
>>50179483>same can be said about Miko yesterdayhe doesn't know lol
>>50179494well she really is a carefree person. she dit it couse she want it. dont thinks number and suck is a concern to her
>have minor audio issues they can fix in the future>everyone complains and one fag even said they downgradedi unironically hate you fags sometimes.i feel soo sorry for you audio boomers with sennheisers that can hear the imperfections.ARE YOU HERE FOR SORA OR HERE TO COMPLAIN!?!?!?!!?SHE'S SINGING HER HEART OUT AND ALL YOU DO IS COMPLAIN!JUST ENJOY SORA YOU FAGS
Another "Interesting" Niji 3D debut graph
>>50179562Miko had a lot of backlogged daytime jobs because of her sick leave. Bums here can't comprehend.
GET IN HERE THE ENERGY IS AMAZING ! also giftsubs EVERYWHERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtbVQjUesq4
>>50179570That would be pretty funny. Gabe is an honest to god retard and at this point he might as well namefag himself.
>>50179615They're obviously botting
SORA HAS GONE SUPER SAIYAN
>>50179470Cool, so we can all agree that you loved how Cover treated you like shit and gave you 8 wholesome faggots? Because it's not like they even tried to get 5 girls and there's no amount of cope that will ever change this.>>50179498I will continue to remind coverdrones that their company is fine with polluting their roster with shit until EN3 debuts, and I do hope none of them even acknowledge the faggots' existence because that would be worse than not debuting anyone. Cover waited that fucking long to get the best possible candidates, right? So having a single homocollaber would completely invalidate that theory.
>>50179382so she got a solo live before? to compare the numbers
Yeah it is noticeably bigger studio kek
>>50178983>advertise it as part of anime expo>is in a different building that is not part of the expoI dont know if its different in burgerland but we also have events like that here whenever theres an anime or comic book expo but usually they dont advertise it as part of the expo if its in a different building not included in the expo.
>>50179454>a small indie companyMaybe reddit would be believe it.
>>50179615Bot can't skip ads
>>50179615>Male NijiJP 3D>Not even 60k
>>50179615Gaijin debuff, pls understand
>>50179311I'm enjoying my wife every day. You don't need to come into these threads and timeloop about Tempus, anon. I'm not leaving my oshi because of your obsessions.
>>50179608nice falseflag, the level of complaint is not proportional to the level of your fake seethe. Try better next time
sora 3D has like 2-3 second audio delaywhat the fuck is Cover doing???
>>50178713It’s the same time as Council Mario Party.
Sora should've invited miComet to maximize her numbers
>>50179354It's basically a panel for NijiEN. I don't think you can really count maybe an hour tops of singing plus talking in a con's event hall as a proper concert.
walked from the back of the stage to the front.holy fuck how big is that main 3D area?
>>50179090Reminder that it's always ok when the leeching whore does it but never ok when Pekora does it, according to this thread.
>>50179715>2-3 second audio delayNah it's less than 0.5 second
it's... fine now?maybe it's not a studio that's a problem there...
>>50179643>tells people that they are the coverdrones>but is ok when cover debuts the small corpo girls that are the same quality garbage like tempus as long as their girlsfeels like your the coverdrone anon since youd be ok and lick covers boots when theyre serving you shitty slop as long as they are girls
>>50179715new studio please understand
It's a real mic!With how she was approaching it I was half sure she's going to pick it up
numbersI'm on daisenpai side
>>50179615Can numberbros explain this to me? What's so interesting?
>>50179603>>50179562>>50179528Damn can’t get shit in /#/, I didn’t even meant to attack Miko
>>50179746You aren't fooling anybody with your deflection
>>50179740You are just not used to Sora's live singing >>50179573
>>50179615that's just bonbon debuff
audio is better now, but threre's an obvious audio lag. maybe these are the pre recorded parts
>>50179733No one even cares when the leeching whore pekora does it anymore because she does it all the time.
>>50179492Anon, AnimeExpo is the biggest anime convention in NA with attendance of 115k. holoEN didn't even get invited. This one is Niji's win.
>>50179762He'll worm his way ahead
>>50179746>replaced idol girls with “small corpo girls” You couldn’t even wait for next thread. People already addressed your shit disturbery earlier but you ignored it and waited for someone to take the same bait. Disgusting,