/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You will keep paying for nothing and like it ATMkun

>>50162535
It's close to June her Bday, she is gonna stream for the paypigs to give her money

dating girls is more fun than streaming

She will reincarnate and become a vshojo whore

its over

>>50162836
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls

>>50162535
She doesn't want to be Gura anymore.

>>50162988
Yeah pretty sure she wanted to retire and Cover begged her to stay, letting her set her own schedule. What other explanation is there really? Streaming is not a demanding job as jobs go.

2%

>>50162535
UOH this brat needs correction!!!

>>50162535
If people were paying me seven digits to do nothing because I used to VA some anime cvnny playing Minecraft I wouldn't feel obliged to keep catering to them either. Hard to even feel gratitude when people are so loose with their money. Why waste your time on people like that when you could be doing whatever you want with money as no object and zero obligations? She could convey this very sentiment to chumbuds' faces and I'm sure enough of them would praise her for it and keep funding her lifestyle ("If it's making Gura happy, it's worth it even if I don't get to see her!") that she could carry on indefinitely anyway.
Gura did nothing wrong, she's just treating chumbuds with the lack of respect they deserve.
>t. never been a chumbud

>>50162535
Just give it too me straight. She hates us… right?

>>50162535
Has enough earnings from merch and memberships. ATMkuns played themselves lmao.

Chumbies... smol energy hort.... only work... 1 hour... goonite

>>50162535

>doesn't streams
>gets money with zero effort

>streams
>gets money

Hm

>>50162535
Something significant has happened since she took her break. She wasn't even ready to come back but Fes forced her to. Laziness is streaming 2-3 times a week, for 3 hours each time and calling it done. This is finding your colleague passed out in the office toilet with white substance under her nose.
If her birthday is as uneventful as Ina's, I'm guessing she's graduating, which is something I welcome if it means she can do whatever she wants.

It felt good when I finally ditched watching all big corpo vtubers. The indie / small corpo vtubers will give you attention and will actually talk to you

Come to the indie / small corpo side, chumbuds

>>50163152
I think it's impressive how corpos like hololive can convince virtually all of their talent to keep working consistently for years considering alot of these women probably never held a job longer than a year before joining

>>50162933
Yes. Do you have a problem?

>>50164015
Fuck off. They're all bad. All of them. You've never been a chumbud or you're settling for garbage instead of doing something better.

>>50163810
If she did she wouldn't had stream as a response to the chat spamming about no streams.

>>50162535
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY MY MERCH YOU FUCKING PAYPIG

>>50164167
At least they actually stream :)

>>50163810
If she didn't, she would be streaming. At all. Do you think it is "creative burnout"? Kiara, Fubuki, Watame, etc have all have been burned out before and still streamed for hours a day.
But you aren't going to listen. Keep giving her money. Maybe another $500 from you will motivate her to finally stream again! Go for it, chumkek. Convince her how much you care about her by staying her loyal ATM.

>>50164217
Right, as I said, you're settling for dogshit. Good job wasting your time on inferior trash to, I don't know, dab on the haters, I guess.

>>50164201
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTToTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I buy 10 of each!

>>50164015
even she graduates (unlikely) i will probably find more fun in exposing whores and grifters than i do watching them

>>50162535
who cares? the attention switched to small corpos, indies and even an AI chuuba, big corpos are so starved now they made Bae play the PP game so they could trend again. If they keep up rarely streaming or streaming boring shit and have nothing happening people will switch their attention to something else, specially with all these zoomer kids with ADHD. I would suggest you to also move on since she ain't coming back chumbie. That or looks for a different hobbie more fulfilling.

>>50162535
She's been working on something. Or her head hort. I mean tummy hort. I mean balance hort. I mean internet hort.

Sh-she's busy ok!? Stop asking questions!

>>50164268
lol gura was only good back in like 2021.

>>50164268
Not settling for trash. You're just a simp that doesn't want to wake up to reality. The signs are all there.

>>50164350
Yeah, busy with me.

>>50164331
have fun getting cucked i guess, boobros are literally BLACKED

>>50164398
I'd stop watching vtubers altogether instead of wasting my time with inferior shit. I've already watched hundreds of them, and they're all shit. You're kidding yourself if you think your 3view garbage is worth even one minute of time. And it's telling that you've not even said specifically who you're watching, because you know she's trash.

>>50162535
No point. She's basically Sana, except that Gura has streamed long enough to get away with phoning it in. She doesn't want to be a vtuber, at least not one this popular.

>>50164522
kek, what make you think I'm a boobro or a crewton? stop projecting fag, there are other streamers I don't look for Gura replacements / clones

>>50164528
>it's telling that you're keeping me from knowing your new oshi's name so i can endlessly shit on her even if i'd never watched a single second from her
>b-but she's trash i bet!
cumbuds have some of the most impressive stockholm syndrome i've ever seen.
>I'd stop watching vtubers altogether instead of wasting my time with inferior shit
but you already stopped.

>>50164689
State your whore of choice then. I 100% guarantee have already given her at least a couple of hours, as I have with hundreds of others. They are all bad, subpar, carbon copies of one another.

>>50164897
and what makes Gura so original in your eyes, they're are all copies of something else in the market, why do you find so hard to accept that she is just tired of streaming and wants to move on with her life?

>>50163152
>Cover begged her to stay, letting her set her own schedule
Assuming they ever forced a schedule in the first place. The decline in streamed hours has been pretty gradual and there's far less important members of the company that don't stream often. The "other explanation" is that they just don't care. So long as she exists for promotional purposes, how would Gura being lazy hurt Cover? For cross-promo purposes, her audiences have already been mixed with the rest of Hololive. It's not like she has learned Japanese 3 years in, so involving her in the company as anything more than a mascot for EN would be a bit of a liability as she'd need a babysitter 24/7 any time she's in Japan (assuming she wants to be there).

>>50164897
i'm not wasting my time giving any suggestions to a brainwashed cumbud who will not accept any recs in good faith and who's endlessly coping about the fact his oshi is actively ignoring him by lashing out on others who say they've moved on. not to mention having shit taste in the first place.

>>50165052
>>50165059
State your whores. I'm not asking for your suggestions. I've 100% already seen them.

>>50165134
no, fuck off. miko on an average day mogs the fuck out of gura in her prime anyway and she's not even my "whore" of choice.

>turns into mywaifu is better then yours

>>50165192
What are you on about you sub-20 IQ ape? Which indie / small corpo whore am I supposed to latch on to as said by >>50164015? Throw out a name. Let's see how she sizes up.

>>50165308
i don't give a shit about telling you who to latch on to you retard, i'm just making fun of you for even suggesting gura's the best out there when even fucking fauna is a better streamer nowadays.

>>50164268
What is it with chumbabies treating gura's content like a definitive gold standard? No, gura is a react streamer at best and is middle of the road. Chumbuds do not watch other vtubers and thus have the most pathetic taste. It's like that ironic """otaku""" who only watches wan-piss and naruto

>>50164167
>368+ subscriptions
for what reason?

>>50164188
definitely sounds like a loving relationship..

>>50162535
pragnant lady need more rest

>>50165472
>dodge dodge dodge
Dodge again, faggot. You have no faith in your 3view back alley whore. I'm not suggesting. I'm stating as a personal fact, after giving hundreds of other chuubas a shot, that Gura is the best and nobody comes close, particularly, especially when you start digging in the "indie / small corpo" gutter. They all are really bottom tier shit and anyone that supposedly "moved on" and watches them are wasting their time.

>>50165572
I like giving new chuubas a shot.

chumbuddy getting uppity. She is graduating.

You will then stop coming to this site so I hope she graduates soon and joins vshojo

>>50165692
She might collab with Belle Delphine again

>>50165634
i'll "dodge" as much as it makes you seethe that people like other holos and other indies better than your precious sharky. ironically i would've agreed with you if you said the same thing back in 2021, but now gura's boring as shit.

>>50164167
That PAM stream was great

>>50165762
That's why you're hiding her away like an abortion survivor. Classic.

>>50165634
At this point why the fuck would anyone namedrop an indie to you? You're clearly too fucking angry that people are telling you Gura's not that good and so why would anyone want to gratuitously have their indie shat on? Meanwhile you're not really doing anything to defend your stance on why Gura's the best of the best.

>>50165845
whatever makes you feel better about your lack of sharky.

>>50165634
I liked Gura, she was funny in her prime, but to call her a good streamer now is stretching it since she barely streams. Anyone viewing her as the best is wasting their time hoping she comes back when you could just watch any of the other ENs in Hololive, or he’ll even HoloJP who still have talents going strong after all this time.
And if the Japanese barrier is too much then just wait for clips and save your time. Problem solved.

>>50165634
Chumbud shitting on other girls to make gura look better episode #184859

>>50165890
I don't know how chumbuddies brains work anymore

Like I don't get whats so special about gura that he watched "hundreds" of chuubas and didn't even enjoy any of them?

>>50162535
fuck her, I am done with that lazy bitch

>>50165634
>anyone that supposedly "moved on" and watches them are wasting their time.
Normally I don't like using the word cope because it's just a "no u" but holy shit if this isn't cope of the highest degree, not only are you just endlessly sperging out about how much you don't like them, you also think your taste is an objective fact and there's no possible reason to like someone better than Gura other than "settling for shit" and that they're "wasting their time". Arrogance beyond belief, and it all essentially boils down to attachment issues.

You couldn't just settle for "no, i didn't fucking like any of those indie/small corpo whores, i'm not taking the indie pill", which is a respectable stance even if worded like a douchebag, you had to mega cope by convincing yourself it's the only correct stance and everyone else who moved on is incorrect and "kidding themselves". It's downright pitiful.

The more people leave Gura the more Gura I get to have all to myself.
I don't see anything wrong with this. It's a win win for me.

>>50166172
>not a new IP
>words words words
Man, you're really offended that some rando is shitting on your hoshi, huh? Not even directly because you won't say who she is, and you're still so mad about it.

>>50166323
>He doesn't know
do we tell him?

>>50166327
Yeah I posted earlier, is that supposed to be a gotcha? You're still hella pathetic. I pray you're an outlier and not representative of the average chumbud because holy shit, if you're not baiting then you're just an incredibly sad and bitter individual, throwing a hissy fit over someone saying "move on, chumbuds" and then having the nerve to try and pretend it's everyone else throwing a hissy fit instead, all while spamming the word "whore".

Oh well, have fun waiting. I'm sure she'll be back to usual after her birthday live.

why would she? she gets paid either way

>>50166378
>he doesn't know
>thinks he knows
snrks.

>>50166327
>your hoshi
damn right I'm proud of my hoshi oshi.

>>50166327
I don’t think even Gura wants to be viewed as the best anymore anon, she seems either petrified of her own success or she’s got other mental/physical health issues that somehow make streaming regularly difficult.
Maybe she’ll start streaming with some regularity again when HoloEN 3 debuts in case she gets worried that she’ll lose any paying chumbuds, or if Kiara/Fauna/Mori can convince her to stream again. But if the Japan trip did nothing to motivate her, then nothing probably will. Not even the ability to stream react content would.

>>50166327
This sounds like mega projection. You are steaming and itching to reply with more crying instead of reading a post that takes less than a minute to read. True chumcope I am witnessing.

>>50166469
You're really running around in circles in your own head and shadow boxing imaginary characters.
I've only ever spoken from my own personal stance. Again, if anons want to throw out the "indie / small corpo" bait, drop names. It's also surely okay for me to say you're settling and that your oshi is a whore. Why should I validate your feelings and soothe your emotions in this bait thread?

>>50165058
I get that there are other member’s that stream less but is there anyone actually below Gura in stream hours for the year right now? The only one I can maybe think of is Haachama but she’s on official medical leave iirc.

>>50166828
No haachama still has more hours lol

chumbuddy stop crying, with every tear you shed gura delays her comeback by one day

>>50162535
Honest question for gura retards, why are you still a member at this point?, only way she'll stream is if you talk with ur wallet

anyone who's still waiting for gura at this point is kidding himself if he thinks she's ever gonna be back to normal. kinda tragic.

>>50166006
It's the same as people who are only there to support their favourite athlete. I stop caring about a club once my favourite retired and he wasn't that great mind you. I tried to get back in but with the new faces isn't just the same because it requires time for me to invest to be able to stay commited at that level again.

>>50167025
This IS her normal. It was trying to keep a consistent schedule that was weird for her. It's better off this way for everyone, she gets to work only when in the mood, in exchange for a chunk off her old income, and the faggots who obsess over her to the point they can't stand watching anyone else will eventually commit suicide. If my oshi said she was going on a quarter year vacation, I'd say good for her because the rest of Hololive will retain my attention while she's gone. It's the cushiest deal on Earth. The whole world wins for it, I still get to enjoy Gura when she streams, she gets to enjoy her job, their parents get to enjoy a lighter budget.

>turns into mywaifu streams more then yours
KEK imagine bragging about the fact you're consuming TRASH at the expense of your time. I dare you to go outside of this no-lifer den of a place and see what people have to say about you

Women are neither funny nor smart and with that the real streamers will always mock them in being entertaining, add in the fact that you are also a larper if you are a self-proclaimed jaypeefag. Gura is one the few exceptions because she is literally a memelord who doesn't need the blue doritos logo to be famous and puts the dumbness of her to good use

>inb4 "Apex/Valorant/LOL/some ASMR whores"
seamonkey-class entertainment lmao

>>50166828
I was thinking of Ayame specifically, but I don't know what total streamed hours are and don't care to look it up. Feels like I only see her once a month though. Point stands either way that whoever keeps making the Gura threads LARPs as if Gura is the most important thing in the world to Cover when it's pretty far from true. Especially since HoloEN in the first place only exists to promote the main branch

>>50162535
Yeah fuck this shit. Im out. Thanks for nothing lazy hoe!

>>50162836
>girls
kek

>>50162535
Would you choose to work from home 1 hour a day, or spend 8 hours in the office?
She's getting paid for doing the absolute bare minimum through memberships and merch sales

>>50162535

>>50167353
I already told you and you didn't bother to respond, what makes Gura so unique, she streams the same games as the rest, what's so unique from the other whores as you say? I don't see what are you defending or supporting, it's not there anymore, she doesn't stream, she doesn't communicate, at least the other whores as you like to call them bother to communicate the reason for going on hiatus your whore ghost you all the time and you come here to cope other streamers aren't as entertaining as your lazy cold hearted bitch.

The best part isn't that she simply doesn't stream, it's that she doesn't stream but still does the monthly milkings of her ATMs such as when she "returned" solely to milk Valentine's Day and then immediately fucked off again.

>HUR DUR, GUR NO STRIM
>I MAEK THRED AGIN
kys

>>50162535

Gura is a bad vtuber who doesn't want to stream.

Feels good to watch holoshit dying to their own ineptitude/whoredom/laziness and the rise of small corpos and indies

>>50169451
You know, if your oshi would actually stream more than once a month then the catalog wouldn't be filled with seething chumbuds and bait?

Nijiseethe thread
Nijicope thread

>>50167737
Yes, girls.

To be honest, if I suddenly made 1-2 million dollars then you'd also never see me again for a bit too. I'd go on regular trips with friends and family, buy em whatever they want, move into a new house together, get health issues taken care of, etc. But I'm one of the few people that do think she has some issues to work through though, including anxiety. Someone like Shion doesn't stream much but she puts out constant music and tweets frequently, Gura doesn't even wanna do that.

>>50169748
I don't even watch Gura. I don't give a shit how often she streams. I care about the catalog being flooded. /vtg/ when

>>50162535
Gra no…..

>>50165975
>Chumbud shitting on other girls to make gura look better episode #184859
Explains why they still follow her.
If only they could find someone near as good.

>>50162535

The average gura anti

>>50162535
Gura is about to release another 3D Live. This will be her 3rd.
Why can't NijiEN release their AR Live again? Will they ever? Gura uses her own time and money to make it happen. Surely the billionaire company can do the same.

>>50167737
"Its fucking hell to work with women (I'm a boy btw)
"pls send me nice chuuba ass pictures"
https://litter.catbox.moe/95q8c2.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/doks4d.mp4

the only real lesbian in EN

>>50165052
>Gura so original in your eyes,
Gura was the original. Not Nyanners.

>>50171982
Kizuna AI was the original. Now look at what happened to that chink bitch. Gura is next.

>>50162535
What if she has immediate postprandial, upper-abdominal distention?

>>50162535
EN3 please save OP

Has she told members anything that implies it's still health issues?

>>50172105
>Kizuna AI was the original. Now look at what happened to that chink bitch.
Kizuna AI fell because of bad company decisions. Which big company would be the next, due to bad management and decisions?
>Gura is next.
How long has it been since she was going retire or be replaced by another Gura killer. While it's weekly news that other agencies are losing talents and their numbers dropping to rock bottom. It's like they are jinxing themselves. Keep the curse going.

I feel like not enough people talk about the fact that she also stopped liking fanart of herself on twitter.
She used to do that even during previous ghosting arcs

>the vtuber that truly loves and respect their audience (as per /vt/)
>the vtuber that hates and disrespects their audience (as per /vt/)

>>50174935
quality vs quantity

>>50174935
also
>vtuber that is busy with projects and focused solely on hololive (as per /vt/)
>vtuber that is lazy and keeps splitting focus on her rm jobs (as per /vt/)

>>50174935
Mori doing really well lately. Having fallen to the bottom, /vt/ said it was the end. Now she leads in cripple golds and even boosting Stars with TTRPG. Persistence pays off.

As for Gura, I never worry about her. Still sustains a huge following and like said, all she has to do is stream to return to her former glory. Her next 3D Live is coming up, so should give a hint of where she's at.

>>50174935
I will jump onto any hate train against Mori just out of sheer spite, you don't need to remind me of that. Never forget and never forgive thats the motto.
>as per /vt/
only /vt/? cuckbeat coping hard

>>50162535
Nyoo, my bf is licking my qte asshole rn

>>50174935
I mean, Mori does blatantly disrespect her audience, and hates at least a portion of it. She wasn't exactly ambiguous about it in her RM "venting" stream.

Her hard work doesn't really change that. I'm just glad she hasn't been trying to drag her e-celeb fleshtuber garbage into Hololive recently.

>>50175040
if mori is considered lazy, then gura must be a dead limp corpse. The lengths chumcucks go to defend 1 stream a month is laughable.

>>50175150
>only /vt/? cuckbeat coping hard
'only' was said by you. Talk about coping.

>>50175328
Gura literally has multiple large projects she's working on now behind the scenes tho

>>50175300
Saying things over and over again doesn't mean you can make that pass as the truth. That's what a delusion is.

>>50172105
>Kizuna AI was the original. Now look at what happened to that chink bitch.

Wtf are you on about anon? Kizuna AI's voice actress is Nozomi Kasuga (publicly disclosed in case janies start getting ideas), who was born in Hyogo Japan. Who is the "chink bitch"?

>>50175124
>Her next 3D Live is coming up
Literally no mention or hype about anything relating to this and there is one month left until her birthday. I think she is in the shitter atm.

>>50175328
>The lengths chumcucks go to defend 1 stream a month is laughable.
Overexagerrations show how much they have to stretch to support their argument.

>>50175424
If followed Gura, she's good at OpSec before release. Talks about her projects months before, completely silent about it before release. Don't confuse her with Kiara.

Most Chumbuds are just frontrunners. They support whoever's the most popular.

Chumbuds are the Lebron fans of the Vtuber community.

It's always the other's problems, never Gura/Lebron.

>>50175328
Its funny you think gura is lazy when she is the most hardest worker in en

>>50175405
NTA but Kizuna has multiple VA's which is exactly why her career went down in flames because the OG was shadow retired and replaced by random chinks and the fanbase didn't stand for that shit.
upd8 was actually retarded enough to think it's just about the avatar and not the actress behind it, kek.

I guess they got the OG back now, I don't follow Kizuna anymore.

>>50175364
This is the silliest fucking excuse when you look at other holomembers and realize they have done more "huge projects" and haved streamed tons in the meantime. Marine has all those music, sponsor, and game projects and streams 15-20 times a month. Even in EN, Kiara has all her collaborative projects and talkshows and will soon release a full length album and she streams the most hours out of all EN. The most Gura has shown for her "hard work" is a single piece of music released 2 years ago.

>>50175656
Like what I am saying. Chumbuds are the Lebron/Roman Reigns/Lionel Messi "fans". They're the first ones who'll abandon Gura once she isn't on the top anymore.

>>50175656
Kiara works hard, no denying that.
But Gura is about to release her 3rd 3D Live. Kiara has done none.
3D Lives take a lot of her own money and time to do BEHIND the scenes. Months in preparation. Very few are willing to do that.

>>50175839
Why yes, alongside the EP she promised....kek

>>50162535
Maybe it's because I'm not a chumbud so I don't have a horse in this race, but I do still like watching her streams whenever she's up. That said, I'm just hoping she's doing well but whatever she's going through I don't really hold it against her since she hasn't done anything wrong on the surface to earn such ire.

>>50163928
welcome to reality. popularity has always been like this.
also: billionaires. "hard work gets rewarded" is a lie late-stage capitalism perpetuates.

>>50175839
Gura get off /vt/ and show us how much shit you've done. I fully expect you to have another 3d, at least 3 songs, be fluent in Japanese, and that EP we've all been waiting for.

>>50175300
her RM venting stream reinforced her liking her audience tho?

>>50175878
When has she promised an EP? kek
Who has more collab songs, Gura or Kiara? Gura is a teamplayer, that helps boost others. That's not counting the extra songs in Holofes, and her 3D lives.

>please please please watch my indie
No

>implying someone was actively shilling anything specific
lol. lmao even.
I don't care which indie you pick, you'll still be better off compared to waiting for Gura to stream twice a year

>>50176087
I'm fully convinced now that the one defending gura is actually gura on damage control. Fucking stream you lazy cunt.

>>50175878
>Why yes, alongside the EP she promised....kek
First I'm hearing about it anon. Surely for such a high profile declaration from the most subscribed vtuber there's ample evidence for you to site to back up your claim.

>>50176024
Honored that you think I'm Gura, not that it was warranted.
HoloFes wasn't that long ago. For those unable to pay for streaming, here is a clip:
https://www.tiktok.com/@naelrantung6/video/7213296881428892954
She not only did many collabs in HoloFes, she arguably had the loudest response from the crowd. Look at how hyped they were. One of the stars of this event and for future ones too. Proud of her, and I'm sure Yagoo was too.

>>50164033
>payment is bad
>people quit frequently
>payment is good
>people.... stay on the job?
Holy fuck we solved the labor crisis, quick someone get Dementia Man on the phone he'll want to hear this (?)

>>50176295
It's just a falseflagger anonchama, pretending Gura has done three 3D lives should have tipped you off

>>50164291
This is what I was afraid of. There’s already enough shitposters and schizos already last thing we need is some Chris Chan, dsp, or wings tier trolls getting involved in this hobby.

>>50176534
>people actually work when they can live comfortably (vtuber behavior may vary)
this only blows the minds of people who would laugh in the face of UBI. but I guess that's for /pol/, sorry. I'm glad I'm not in that camp though.

>>50176341
Lmao what a stupid reddit nigger

>>50176572
Only one pretending to do 3D Lives is NijiEN.

>>50162535
You sound like me mother.
>just fucking work like everybody else reeeee
Fuck off. There are more important things in life.

>>50176004
I'm genuinely shocked at how reasonable this take is. Good on you.

she's just EN's mascot at this point

>>50177049
While I don't obsess over her, the gooba is still one of my favorites. I mean I get it, it's unfortunate that she doesn't stream as much as she used to with whatever's going on in her life. But I don't think she deserves being shat on when she hasn't really done anything wrong on the surface.

There plenty of chuubas who've (understandably) earned a rep for controversies or scathing feedback from their fanbase, but Gura really hasn't done anything of the sort.

>>50162535

>check her channel
> 1 (ONE) fucking stream in the last month
Jesus christ, I'd feel bad for chumbuds if they weren't all so fucking annoying

>>50177331
Isn't being lazy as fuck and not doing her job when it's the easiest thing in the world worthy of ire or do women just get a free pass for being slack and incompetent in your world?

>>50177482
She streams on Kiara's channel. Where have you been?

>>50177482
>I'd feel bad for chumbuds if they weren't all so fucking annoying
This really. I hope things are going okay for Gura and I hold no ill will against her, even if she does take it easy with the streams. Her fans however don't do themselves any favors with how they're perceived. Especially on this board.

>>50162535
I just don't expect anything from her anymore

>>50177654
That's what she wants. Easy money, no expectations. Imagine if someone with Koyoris work ethic got her model, what could've been.

>>50163810
You wish. She's apathetic

>>50177624
Gura topics flood the catalog daily, it's just horrible when any gets a response. How dare they.

Happy to see Gura in everyone's minds, she truly does not have to stream.

chumbuds should stop giving her free money already

>>50177678
>Imagine if someone with Koyoris work ethic got her model, what could've been.
Probably worse. Gura's model doesn't fit her.

>>50177811
>gura's model doesn't fit hard working person
probably true

>>50175364
at this point it's so fucking obvious that she's just lazy, stop being delusional

>>50177847
Finally getting it.

>>50177877
Stop being whiners and do it yourself. Are you a vtweeter?

>>50177877
she literally said it herself that she's busy and has many projects to juggle. it's obvious that youre just listening to the voices in your head

>>50177678
>perfect storm in a teapot with HoloEN and Covid
>10/10 model buff
>great voice for singing and general streaming
It's all such a waste. To be handed the perfect golden tickets and do nothing with them. Instead choosing to remain coasting due to endless passive income.

>>50177971
>she literally said it herself that she's busy and has many projects to juggle
Of course she did. She's not going to come out and say she's doing fuck all is she? Funny how none of these big projects ever materialize. She has a single original song in three years. Three fucking years. One song. Where are all the big projects? A few voice lines for Umisea?

>>50177565
I mean we don't know any of that beyond schizo rrats. I already cited how it's an unfortunate case and you're free to criticize her work ethic sure, but it's not as if she morally offended or antagonized me as a viewer.

>worthy of ire
Not at all. I don't get why you'd feel such intense anger when we don't know much of anything and she hasn't blatantly caused any controversy among her fanbase. Maybe you shouldn't put so much investment that it gets to the point that a hiatus would anger you to this degree. Then again, like I said, I'm not a chumbud.

>>50177482
>check her channel
> 1 (ONE) fucking stream in the last month
>Jesus christ, I'd feel bad for chumbuds if they weren't all so fucking annoying

One skill some chumbuds have developed is an ability to find her on other channels.
https://youtu.be/JtG3C64lLJA
https://youtu.be/KQjF_27oG3U
https://youtu.be/u3OwktzvF4M

Many of them are also channel members, where they also got a video this month.

>>50177971
It has been two years since she's working on "big projects". Where the hell are they?

>>50177331
I agree on everything you, people really need to look outside of Hololive and understand how much worse a chuuba can be

>>50177971
other members have many projects all the time yet they can stream at least once a week
but we'll see if those projects are real or just another lie

>>50177713
Thanks for proving my point

>>50178054
open your eyes

>>50178051
>she hasn't blatantly caused any controversy among her fanbase
She has though. /ggg/ is going insane because she's not doing anything. This is like saying she's the perfect employee, she just doesn't show up for work. Doesn't really mean much in the end, does it? She doesn't cause controversy because she doesn't do ANYTHING. That's not a good thing.

>>50178087
You're welcome.

Let's keep flooding more Gura topics together.

>>50178106
have you seen the ones that do show up for work?
>improv, friends
i'm happy to keep a spotless image of our absentee shark

>>50177714
And you retards should stop let her live rent free inside your head

>>50178155
>have you seen the ones that do show up for work?
Maybe you're just comparing her to the wrong vtubers? Why set such a low bar that not doing anything passes? This is why EN is such an embarrassment.

>>50178106
Ask yourself, why does that bother you?

>>50176004
There's absolutely nothing wrong with rarely uploading content in principle. The average viewer isn't owed any kind of dedication. But I think it's a very different situation if you're getting bankrolled by your viewers in exchange for content. Holos aren't just casual Youtubers, they are part of a business.

>>50178150
If you say so.

>>50178198
I find lazy e-thots milking their fanbase relentlessly while providing zero content offensive.

>>50174935
It's safe to say at this point that no matter how big and cool these mysterious projects will be, she and her management seriously damaged her streamer career. She will never gain the momentum she had before no matter how hard she'll try in the future.

>>50178200
Gura has been doing many more membership streams lately. Surprising, since she used to average 1 per month.
Can't see if not a member, just as you can't see her efforts in HoloFes if didn't pay for streams.
So chumbuds just laugh at the antis that can't look further than her homepage. Oblivious to her collabs in other channels.

she could stop all these controversies by just streaming at least once or twice a week, but no

>>50176597
>I'm glad i'm not in that camp though!
>fights for increasing minimum wage, oblivious that the value of money is 6x less than it used to be in the worst parts of the country, and 3x what it used to be in the best parts
congrats on your progressive policies. you only lost 67% of your wages instead of 84%, you dumb nigger.

Just watch someone else dawg, who cares.
It's been more than a year of Gura doing this and people instead of moving on they still cry and moan about the same shit over and over

>>50178262
What is the "milking"? The SuperChats are coming during streams. If she doesn't stream, she doesn't get them. The channel members are getting members only streams. People buying merch get, you know, merch.

Who is paying her while getting nothing?

>>50178450
because we always care about her
sadly she just doesn't care about us anymore

>>50178465
>The channel members are getting members only streams.
No they're not

>>50178262
Why does that make it personal? Are you trying to save the fans? They aren't asking for your help.

>Birthday celebration is coming up
>Holoconnect concert
>Hololive park
>Hololive airways to JP
>Probably a dozen other promotions for HoloJP

These are the most likely "big projects" that she's been working on. It's obvious that with there no longer being any travel restrictions to JP, that the home office is making up for lost time, with her.

>>50178106
Nobody said she's a perfect employee though and I even acknowledged the unfortunate circumstance of the dwindling number of streams she's done over time. But like I said, there's a point where if a hiatus wrings out so much anger in you, then you should learn to dial down your investment over a chuuba. It's just plain unhealthy anon, and I mean that genuinely.

>>50178469
Well just don't care about her, how about that?
How the fuck do you manage to go on in life if you can't even a drop a vtuber?
She owes you nothing and nothing is going to change. MOVE. ON.

>>50178611
Interesting that you're not saying this over at /ggg/. Maybe your issue is you don't like criticism rather than someone being "overly invested" in a vtuber?

>>50171982
Holy newfag

>>50178262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qp728DDfMk

>>50178519
I'm a channel member for Marine, IRyS and Gawr Gura. All 3 have had 4 members only streams in the last 2 months. Gura isn't shorting members at all.

>>50178709
May God Bless you.

>>50178433
https://www.scottsantens.com/basic-income-faq/
2nd question from the top, real simple.
>inb4 "I won't read"
okay, none of us are going to change each other's minds in the first place, so it's most productive if we stop talking about this!

>>50178754
Marine and Irys have also done non-members streams, retard. Gura IS shorting members because she's not creating content. Members streams are a bonus, they're not the baseline.

>>50178676
> over at /ggg/
Did you conveniently forget the part where I said I'm not a chumbud?

>>50178787
No? I just find it curious you seem to only target people who are "too invested" for pointing out Gura is lazy as fuck and not the ones who are so invested they'll defend her no matter what. Seems to me you're encouraging reddit type mindless consoomer mentality by discouraging people from pointing out Gura isn't doing her job

>>50178469
She's lazy. She has always been vocal about her being lazy since debut and now you're just seeing it. Go support another chuuba gura that cares about her fanbase she isn't the only chuuba.

>>50178671
no I won't move on, I can live my life well while caring about a lot of things at the same time

>>50178847
Targeting people? Anon you're the one who replied to me. I was only offering my advice since you actively engaged with my post.

>>50178971
>Anon you're the one who replied to me.
Because you asked a question. Real woman behavior to ask a question like "Why are people angry with Gura" and then when someone replies sincerely to try and pull then"Well you're just a loser for caring too much"

Look inside yourself and change, your time is much better spent doing that rather than white knighting lazy whores on here.

>>50178847
>>50178971
Also forgot to add, but you're the one wanting to make an argument out of this between you and me when I haven't even criticized chumbuds for feeling the way they do. Not once did I call them crazy or whatever for feeling disappointed.

>>50178847
Don't get influenced by the falseflagging or join in witchhunts like they did to Zaion. They never followed Gura. They don't see her membership streams or her collabs in other channels. No reason to hate someone you do not watch. She did nothing to you.

>>50178785
My specific statement was "The channel members are getting members only streams." How is Marine and IRyS making non-members streams relevant to my statement shitfucker?

>>50179123
Nah I think I'll hate on Gura all I want because she's a disgusting fake whore who doesn't even stream and you can rope yourself if it upsets you. Hows that sound?

>>50179178
sounds based

>>50179058
>"Why are people angry with Gura"
Never said that. I know exactly why people are angry, and I merely expressed why I don't. You're the one who approached me and started throwing questions over job integrity and whatever else. Good job putting words in my mouth.

>"Well you're just a loser for caring too much"
Well that's just plain disingenuous. I do genuinely feel for people who get invested in chuubas only to feel betrayed or disappointed. But like I said, I'm not a chumbud so I don't have a horse in this race and maybe that's why I don't feel as strongly as you.

>>50179168
Members streams are a bonus. They're bonus content. They're not what you're paying for when you get a membership. Plenty of Holos don't do members streams at all, or very rarely.

>>50179231
>I'm not a chumbud
And yet writes tons of posts about why you shouldn't hate on ol gor gooba for leeching hundreds of thousands of a dollars while doing 1 (uno) stream a month. Why would someone be so invested in convincing people they're NOT a chumbud to the point they write it 5 times while simultaneously doing everything in their power to try and dissuade people from rightfully shitting on her?

i never watch Gura but props to her. she's easily a multimillionaire at this point so why not take the bag and retire? streaming is easy but there are easier things like collecting stock dividends or buying property then letting a rental company take care of it. the biggest indicator of streamer success is if they can stop doing it.

>>50179336
he doesn't actually care if other chuubas stream or not as long as they align with his preferred behavior

>>50179178
haters keep on hating

Some life advice from the great Guru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fAaN2-PN84

>>50179232
They're what I'm mostly paying for when I sign up for a membership. And Gura's members (including myself) are certainly getting them.

>>50179336
>doing everything in their power to try and dissuade people from rightfully shitting on her?
Anon I made ONE (1) post and you replied to me. So I replied in turn, and the rest was history. I even said that people have every right to criticize her, but I merely expressed why I can't feel the same way. I haven't even actively replied or shot down anyone in this thread or in /ggg/ because it's just not my fight. Do you just want to have an argument with someone???

>>50179599
She should probably get lessons then.

>>50179601
NTA, when someone is convinced you're samefagging all over a thread, they're a lost cause. leave it.

>>50179601
You said she hasn't done anything wrong. Not streaming is doing something wrong. Stop obsessing over defending e-whores you retard.

>>50177331
>when she hasn't really done anything wrong on the surface.
Lied constantly to her fanbase stringing meme excuse after meme excuse along until she ran out of new ones and finally settled on her mystery spaceAIDS illness being the "new normal".
Shadowbanned words like "streaming" in her pre-chat which shows she's observing all the backlash and using underhanded means to suppress it.

>>50179807
>Shadowbanned words like "streaming" in her pre-chat
This was pretty fucking hilarious. Chumbuds asking when the next ztream was

>>50179756
Ever thought that some like Gura because she never begs for money. Doesn't worry about numbers. Reluctant to celebrate milestones, or lacks the need to stream to get more money?
Gura is pretty far from an e-whore as you can get.

>>50179639
She's too lazy to even sit and play games and you want her to move her body and dance?

Gura's passion and ambition... gone...

>>50179957
>gates all her "good" content behind a paywall to farm memberships
>baits a grand return for valentine's day for the quick GFE milking of her ATM's and immediately vanishes again after (something this board predicted, btw)
>abandons games if they don't get good numbers
lol

I'm glad I was able to move on. Oshihening sucks but so was holding out hope that Gura wasn't bullshitting for the millionth time. I suggest that other chumbuds look within Holo too, the other EN girls really aren't bad if you're an EOP

>>50179957
being humble is fairly easy if you got no passion
you fail to see that fans want to feel needed, an idol that doesn't ask for support and does nothing with the support they do receive regardless is not a good one

>>50179650
I don't know why anon is picking a fight with me when there's plenty others in this thread who are actively engaging with the issue.

>>50179756
You asked and I simply disagreed. You're the one obsessed over dragging this out into some argument by making various strawmen out of my posts.

>>50179807
>Shadowbanned words like "streaming" in her pre-chat
Well that's news to me so I guess I'm in the dark about that. At the same time, I hardly ever keep up with chat even with chuubas I follow more religiously so it's hardly an issue for me unless they bring it up on stream. Still, I won't deny it's an elephant in the room but again, it's not my fight.

>>50179861
Her mods be modding.

Gura is pretty based. Few scream for more tweets. Gets 'eating borgar'. Screams for details on her absence. No longer talks about it in her membership streams. Screams about more streams. Gets less.
She's just not fond of those whiners, and will never let them influence her.
LOL, I love the shork.

>>50178425
>Gura has been doing many more membership streams lately.
You can't use this cope when she did only one this month after promising a "movie may" even after making that wall of text on how she's doing shit behind the scenes and it saps her energy (but she can show up to collabs no problem)

>>50180297
>contrarians are so cool and based
you'll love Pippa

>>50180297
>Hates Chumcucks and fucks them over for kicks
Hm, you're convincing me anon, maybe Gura actually is based

>>50180378
pippa is fake as hell and tells her fans exactly what they think "based" means on the hacker website 4channel.org. thats not contrarian at all, thats running with the stream.

>>50180378
Pippa is cool.
Mainly watch her clips and agree with what she says. Very articulate.

I love how gura is draining her pedophile fanbase from so much cash by simply doing nothing. She can be gone for months return and the first thing that comes into these weirdos minds is Le Cunny so they shower her with enough funds for her to fuck off for months again and the cycle repeat itself endlessly based Shork.

>>50180454
she's a contrarian if you compare her to the average normie. sadly, she's surrounded by 4channers and she is one. so I could agree with what you're saying, but it's all perspective.

>>50180510
/ggg/ is a pedo honeypot

>>50180561
she's a contrarian since despite being a /vt/ native she loves Mori

>>50180510
Marketing genius

>>50180510
>liking a vtuber with loli bodytype makes you a pedophile
fuck off. I think Gura is a lazy whore so this is not even my fight of defending her, but people like you are scourge of the internet. let people enjoy their media; even if they're boring, tame, parasocial two-way shit and these people should just read loli hentai like I do to get off instead.

chumbuds may be stupid, but throwing "pedophile" around for fictional content makes you no better than Amber Turd and the average vocal feminist. don't make throwing weird accusations part of your life. you're watering down words, and you're contributing to the reason why when someone makes a twitlonger saying "this person is a pedo", some people in the replies ask what they actually did and get sent CSEM proof when they expected cartoons drawings.

you are part of the problem. if you care about children, don't use this word for fictional content.

>>50180128
Too much passion and you'll scare the living daylights out of those streamers. Don't be like them.

>>50180909
>Making excuses for being a pedophile

>>50180909
>What? of course I'm not gay anon. I just like jerking off to depictions of big hairy mean having sex. It's not real so why would you think I want to fuck real men?

>>50181171
Why is it that those claiming pedophilia in anime, are often the ones that target real children.
If look at fellow members in your crusade, you'll see the likes of EDP445.

>>50181363
EDP would be a chumbud if he was into vtubbing not sure why you brought his fatass up lmfao

>>50181437
EDP is openly against lolis.
He likes real children.
Proven time and time again.

>>50181618
He is a hypocrite therefore he'd be a chumbud prime not hard for this to be explained to you.

>>50181814
Those that watch lolis are not the ones going after real children.
Those that preach against lolis are often caught with real children.
Not sure why they act that way, but it's how it is.

It would make sense to concentrate such efforts on real crimes.

>>50180653
she used to laugh at Mori with rest of chat during her leeching phase when she played Holocure
Now she takes it back when collabs with them are actually possible

>>50181193
tell that to fujoshis who read BL.
they are often not into men. crazy, who would have thought your fictional interests indicate nothing of what you would do irl!

also: slasher movie enjoyers

if you're too dumb to comprehend these facts then we're done here, thanks!

>>50182727
*not actively into gay men IRL in their dating preferences. fuck me forgetting to add one word. my point still stands.

>>50182727
You are extremely stupid.

Which one of the yesmen in this thread is Darkmaze?

>>50182833
(・ω・)b

>>50174935
lmao no one's watching mori.

>>50182171
Sure, keep coping chumbud.

>>50180909
It is fictional and harmless as a result, but it's still pedophilic fetish content.

sent her death threat, always works

>>50183032
I can admit that pedophiles can probably get off to the content, for sure. but not all who get off to the content is a pedophile. that's the logical leap here.

I still think anime characters look nothing like real life children though. people's definition of the word is warped up from all this bullshit in the first place. I'd argue you shouldn't even call them pedophilic because earnestly believe pedophilia isn't caused by, or has strong links to loli content consumption. but at the end of the day, no one online is going to change their minds for a stranger.

>>50182171
this is the true redpill. If you don't believe me, look up what ocd is

>>50175554
Where is it then?

>>50183386
I think the logical leap is equating it to child porn, which is what a lot of people do and probably why you're so defensive about it being labeled pedophilic.
There's also more to it than strictly the appearance of the characters when your average loli hentai has the male loudly annunciating they are fucking a child every other page.

>>50180909
That's a lot of copium, Mr pedophile.

>>50182913
And you can't even watch Gura if you wanted lmao

>>50183386
As far as gura is concerned as quick look at her ggg thread should tell you all you need to know.

>>50162836
Sir, you can dating with a girl but still choose to lurking on 4chan?
>confused

>>50162535
I'm doing what I can, when I can

>>50185650
I wish I understood gura but I wish you all the best

>>50185650
The new normal

>>50162535
*ztream.

>>50179599
That bottom image might be older than almost all of the ESL underages that are on this board

kek this thread is still alive.

>>50177331
>when she hasn't really done anything
This is the problem anon

>>50163810
I think she has her own issues (no matter how big or small) which has caused the stream draught.
It’s hard for me to feel sympathetic; however. I work with someone who is an absolute piece of fucking shit loser who refuses to do their job and makes up medical excuses so they won’t get fired and still continue to receive allowances from our employer. Ever since I met this piece of shit, all I can see is how Gura is doing the same thing. After I made the realization, it’s been hard for me to continue being a chumbud. I’m sorry Gura. I wasn’t strong enough. UUUUuuuuu!

Gura is the best vtuber in the same way McDonald's ice cream is the best ice cream

>>50193169
I'm not smart enough for this analogy.
One isn't real ice cream and the other isn't a real vtuber? Is that what you mean?

>>50185183
/B/ has thread full of anon posting webm of themselves fucking women. Is totally not impossible at all >.> Just go outside for fuck sake

>watched 7hour kino stream of a 1view today
>never breaks her schedule and streams 5 times a week, 4 hours minimum
>is endearing and parasocial towards her chat without being too obvious
>is okay with cunny
>makes up a lot of scenarios and jokes during the stream, keeps people going and entertains them
>manages to mix it with different topics
>didn't even cancel tonights stream despite feeling sick because she loves the chat that much
>found out that she's been streaming even during her tommyhort and sick months when she could barely speak
Its all about finding the right chuuba.

>>50193775
>Its all about finding the right chuuba.
I would feel bad for any 2view who ends up with a chumbud refugee in their fanbase

>>50194864
Do you feel bad for fauna that's where most the cumbuds ended.

>>50162535
>still successful and rakes in the cash with minimal effort
Is it ethical? No
Would I still do it? Definitely

>>50177455
this is accurate, and im at stage 5. Miko is a saint.

>>50194923
They only ended up there because Fauna was sucking up to Gura for a few months. Now it's Kiara who they love the most. And so on and so on.

>>50162535
retarded chumbud says Gura is his oshi and doesn't understand why she isn't streaming and
no it's not having sex with boyfriend.

>>50162535
beggars deserve nothing

>>50163152
There isn't any other explanation. She's autistic, and autists seem to burn out a lot more easily. She's bored of being Gura and wants to do different things.

>>50164015
snek...

Milk those pathetic chuubas for all their worth, Gura.

>>50164033
It's not that hard in Gura's case at least. Just sit back and collect a sizable paycheck.
They probably made the deal to have her be the Tokyo travel ambassador early on, so having her graduate would be a pretty bad look.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're just paying her to stay with the company until all their contractual obligations with other companies are over.

>>50162535
Hehe, tommy hort. Doing what I can, when I can.

Why does anybody care if she streams or not? You guys only watch one streamer or something?

>>50200887
>You guys only watch one streamer or something?
Chumbuds do. Unless she appears on someone elses channel, then they pretend to love that channel for a few days.

>>50175802
no one cares about your weird sports analogy you swarthoid third worlder

I’m just scared that if she fades from existence so too will the days of cgdct. If she graduates the flood gates of coed might burst open in HoloEN and that’s what I’m most afraid of.

>>50162535
she should have graduated when she peaked, now it's just a depressing watching the husk of what she was and could have been.

>>50203935
IRyS will carry the torch.

>>50207261
>watching
how

>>50195425
So they'll watch anyone who kisses the lazy shork ass got ya.

>>50162535
>JUST FUCKING STREAM it's not that difficult
yes it is, because she hates all of you and is a hassle

>>50178775
>I'm a fucking retard and they totally wont print money
Listen you fucking homo, they print money whenever they run social services
>but if they cancel
theyre not canceling anything,
they just printed 80% of all the money we ever printed just to not cancel anything
theyre about to print more money right now because of all the stuff theyre not canceling.
the whole government should be shut down because of all the money they stole from you and every member and every shadow official split by 4 horses on their limbs for how much money they stole from you.
You will NEVEr
EVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
fix this with a """democratic""" (((policy))).

>>50162535
Spend all your time waiting
For that second chance
For a break that would make it okay
There's always some reason
To feel not good enough
And it's hard at the end of the day
I need some distraction
Oh a beautiful release
Memories seep from my veins
Let me be empty
Oh and weightless and maybe
I'll find some peace tonight

In the arms of the angel
Fly away from here
From this dark cold hotel room
And the endlessness that you fear
You are pulled from the wreckage
Of your silent reverie
You're in the arms of the angel

May you find some comfort here

So tired of the straight line
And everywhere you turn
There's vultures and thieves at your back
And the storm keeps on twisting
You keep on building the lies
That you make up for all that you lack
It don't make no difference
Escaping one last time

It's easier to believe
In this sweet madness

Oh this glorious sadness
That brings me to my knees
In the arms of the angel
Fly away from here
From this dark cold hotel room
And the endlessness that you fear
You are pulled from the wreckage
Of your silent reverie
You're in the arms of the angel
May you find some comfort here
You're in the arms of the angel
May you find some comfort here

>>50180454
How fake?
Is she actually a G% lover?
Personally I don't buy it. Pippa is just one fascet of the gem, I too have a softer side.

Most containment breakers are Pippa fags from kiwi farms.