/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>another 'liver'

Veibae filtering retards, fucking based. Still won't watch, but credit where credit is due.

I guess the field is so saturated that they try to pick another tag. Or they are fags from Twitter.

>>50121326
Its the new movement by twitter freaks after their crusade against Hogwarts Legacy and evil tonedeaf vtubers like Silvervale, Pikamee, Hololive, Shondo and others failed. Their new tact is to permanently schism the community to separate themselves into their own safe space now since they find those vtubers and their fans 'unfixable' and don't want to identify as being part of the same community any longer.

>>50121258
calling yourself a V-tuber on twitch is kinda stupid so maybe thats why.

When they realized tweeting simply wasn't enough

>>50121221
I guess vtuber means virtual youtuber and vstreamer means virtual streamers?
Its in twitch aswell so...

>>50121221
VTuber=> Virtual YouTuber, retard. took them long enough to change something that simple I guess.

>>50121221
Veibae said retard so they've started using Vstreamer to "disassociate" from "Vtuber" and thus Veibae.

>>50121656
But almost all of the ones in OP's image are Japanese. I thought they don't give a shit about Western drama.

>>50121495
>>50121656
Proof next thread?

>>50121656
I've seen someone on Twitter saying shit like this but I don't think Japanese vtubers care

>>50121221
From what i have seen some people think "vtubers" have became too toxic so they want to disassociate with it by calling themselves "vstremers" twitchtards are a mistake.

>>50121753
>but I don't think Japanese vtubers care
They don't, but Twitch already tried to coin the phrase Vstreamer before but didn't catch on and people continued to use Vtuber until Veibae said retard. Maybe the Japanese ones just saw that others started using Vstreamer and then started using it too? I dunno.

>>50121787
so what happens when a "vstreamer" starts stirring up shit?

>>50121753
For the sake of discoverability on Twitch, probably.

>>50121730
How about proof right now?
https://twitter.com/Blue_Uchuu/status/1660977353885974528

>>50121221
vtuber means virtual youtuber, they're not youtubers

>>50121730
>>50122075 (me)
And https://twitter.com/Blue_Uchuu/status/1661165547705311232
They renamed everything of theirs from Blue_Vtuber over to this new name.
Twitter
Tiktok
Youtube
All of their social media platforms and in the responses there are many others saying they are gonna do as well or already have in past months cause of all 'le drama'.

>>50122019
They will do as they always do, having double standar. though none of them are revelant enought for any shit they start stirring up having any impact.

>>50122019
Some of them have already said they will start calling themselves 'Virtual Creators' or 'Virtual Content Creators'

>>50121221
Damn, did they finally realize using the term vtuber on Twitch is retarded? Took them long enough.

>>50121221
To be fair most "Vtubers" probably dont even have a youtube channel or only upload lazy vods

>>50122113
yes but that's not how it's used colloquially. It's just a category at this point.

>>50121258
That's just what people call streamers in Japan. Brave group also has Virtual Livers.

>>50121221
'Vtuber' reminds Bezos-sama of Youtube, his direct competition, so he wants his servants to use Vstreamer instead.

>>50121221
Vtuber tag has been hijacked by 3dpd

>>50122233
How about E-girls with Avatars?

>>50122019
They will stir shit then cry about it like they are victims again, all of these people are litral whos anyways why care?
It's already far too late to disassociate with the term people who watch them, people who don't watch them are going to use vtubers and nothing can be done about it after like 7 years of the industry starting.

>>50121221
this is a good thing though. it's a more accurate label for them.

>>50122415
Why is twitch allowing this to happen and who is that random korean that is shitting on vshojo numbers?

>>50124227
Yea, since all Twitch streamers use the vtuber tag, including xqc, I can see making a separate tag to differentiate them. But if it gets popular, they will also use it too.

>>50124526
Aren't streamers like xQc just using the vtuber tag to shit on vtubers? IIRC I saw Mizkif use it as well.
But yeah, if Vstreamer becomes popular then the big 3dpd streamers will start using that too.

>>50121724
this goes against my narrative or le heckin based whore veibae

>>50121221
sicne the most popular vTuber in the world is no longer associated with streaming, they're just clarifying

>>50121753
gotta follow the trend

"cant say youtuber on the name t. twitch"

>>50122280
No one should indulge in any form of Japanese retardation, just steal the good part of their culture and move on.

>>50124227
Gooks have always dominated the vtuber hirarchy there, but you expect the EOP youtube only board to know that? And twitchtards will not talk about them because the illusion of vshoujo being the biggest agency on twitch will be broken.
There are 2 Korean agencies there stellarlive and isagye both have multiple 5 views.

>>50125700
Tranny hands typed this message.
On the topic, anyone wanna take a bet until one of these twitter freaks has a meltdown and goes on a racist rant? They pretend to be all 'woke' but you can feel the seething under the surface they have towards Japan and other Asian cultures which are far more paternalistic. Feels like any day now one of them will call for a crusade to modernize Asian society to match western 'woke' standards.

>>50121221
Thank goodness. We can finally filter out Vei clones and vthots from the vtuber sphere.

>>50125700
>just steal the good part of their culture

if western world collectively agree lolis are the good part

>>50121221
Might be because there's a lot of non-vtubers using the vtuber tag

>>50124227
>who is that random korean
she's a member of Isegye Idol, a Korean vtuber group created by the Woowakgood, one of the most popular Korean VRchat streamers.
that group and a bunch of other streamers he manages all came from his fandom and the group of people he interacted with in VRcha

So when are we getting a /vst/ general?

>>50124227
Korean audience is like the Spanish audience.
You get good viewership, but low monetary support.
So most Korean vtubers who know Japanese or English will stream in Japanese or English instead.

>>50122233
I hope not. On top of virtual creators sounding uppity these people don't create anything. Reacting to content and playing a game you didn't make is not creation.
Naked twitch women painting their bare breasts is more creative.

>>50126331
>/vst/ general
True, I want to discuss Lumi and Miia.

>>50125918
>Tranny hands typed this message.
Glad you warned us before I read the rest of your post.

>>50126080
sex

>>50126392
>korea is a third world country with the same population as hispanic.
Coping hard there.

>>50121221
VStreamer tag predates the veibae shit. Seen it used for years.

>>50127507
You need to brush up on your critical reading skills

>>50127189
There are vtubers (mostly who don't use Twitch) who make actual content like art, music, essay videos, etc.

>>50121580
>>50125478
Even on Twitch pretty much everyone just says "vtuber". It's like "band-aid", "bubble wrap", "jet ski", "dumpster", "escalator" and many other words that originally referred to specific products or brands but are no longer used that way.
Technically, "vstreamer" would be a subtype of vtuber like "vsinger" is.

>>50128832
I will not call them virtual content creators or whatever the fuck they want
vstreamers? That's bullshit but why not, livers? Retarded but ok, vtubers? At this point that's the number one name everyone will think about
See the distinction? A fucking sentence vs one word
Plus honestly, it's kinda too late to change anything

>>50121221
braindead retards bringing up veiwhore when people have been using Vstreamer tag for years before this, kill yourselves

>>50122266
Probably twitch doesn't want words reference its competitor as a tag.

>>50131053
Nah, it was because of Vei filtering retards like this
https://twitter.com/Blue_Uchuu/status/1660977353885974528
You can see how a lot other less-literal-whos still using VTuber tag there (i.e: >>50124227)
since they don't GAF

>>50131632
no it wasn't you fucking tranny VStreamer predates this stupid shit by years

>>50121495
Would be pretty funny to see them simply ADD the vstreamer tag to spite them.
They don't own a tag after all, and it's literally descriptive of them.

>>50121580
Vtuber became "vtuber" for a reason.
It stopped being Virtual Youtuber years ago to distance itself from the Youtube brand.
Like, years years ago, fucking ages ago. Before any company watched here.
Same reason Liver popped up.

>>50129995
Honestly, a better term would be vcreator or something.
Or just go silly like we do here - vchuba. A bastardization of English makes it less English centric. (albeit still adjacent, but without context nobody would know)

>>50121495
I wish this was actually the case. I think it would be fucking great if there was a schism and these people left to go do their own thing. None of the people who get mad about wizard game or Vei saying retard are actual vtuber fans, just terminally online politics obsessed retards trying to infiltrate a space that typically tries to be apolitical. Creating a schism to separate themselves from vtubing would be them waving the white flag and retreating, improving vtubing itself dramatically. But unfortunately, that's not what's going on here.

>>50121221
probably trying to distance themselves from the mainstream vtubers a la Hololive/Nijisanji/Vshojo (Henya)/Indies (Veibae) who are all, like, TOTES problematic
>>50121495
this guy said it first actually, but I already typed it out

>>50121724
They probably just thought “hey, there’s a new tag. I can probably pick up more viewers by using it.”

>>50132594
it's not new you fucking moron

Veibae/Nyanners/Silvervale are more likely to ditch the vtuber title than any of the Twitter people. Whenever there's a schism, it's always the rightoids who try to break off.

Can we make a Vstreamer board and send all the twitch streamer threads over to it?

>>50132288
It IS what's going on for the westerners using the term at least (who knows why the Japs are doing it) >>50122075
All major representatives of "vtuber" in the public space are "bad" now of course.
>just terminally online politics obsessed retards trying to infiltrate a space that typically tries to be apolitical
I can see why you think that; the first half is totally true but the latter is incidental I feel. They're awful people that feel awfully about themselves, taking something pure & beautiful by default like an anime avatar to wear like a mask is probably just their version of self-improvement that doesn't demand work. Like makeup for lazy whores (especially the ones who have watched a few anime before and now consider themselves weebs).

>>50132449
It has nothing to do with stupid EN whore shit you dumb nigger, the VStreamer tag has been around for years.

>>50132979
I don't care enough to look that deep into why, why do you care so much that I'm wrong?

>>50132880
Already exists
>>>/trash/
Vshojo was there for a while when they were told to fuck off

>>50133033
Because I’m tired of seeing people repeat blatantly wrong shit

>>50133141
Only thing I go to /trash/ for is to check the CYOA thread once every couple month, so I tend to forget they exist. Is it really surprising shipping them there didn't last when any tourist coming /here/ would never find it? Maybe there should be a Twitch board in general, no just for Nyanners & clones but for all Twitch ecelebs. I know /pol/ would probably appreciate it given the constant Destiny shilling

>>50133777
digits confirm this is the most correct take possible

>>50133777
does destiny still let his gf fuck other dudes?

>>50134178
presumably. I've only gone on /pol/ 3 times in the past week and every time there's been an active thread about his gf embracing & dancing with some black dude in the background of his stream. I just wanted funny memes, I don't need to know about the hygiene of eceleb manlet Destiny's girlfriend's boyfriend's balls.

>>50134582
ah.. that’s embarrassing

I don't think the Japanese or Koreans even know who Veibae is, let alone the drama. I mean that's what's being implied by OP, right?

>>50131962
what does tuber means?

>>50121495
I really don't get people like this, at this point why don't you also stop calling yourself "human", don't you know that all the worst people that ever existed were "humans"?

>>50135247
a walking onahole

>>50121221
What weird newfaggotry is this.
Vstreamer has always been a thing, both in JP and otherwise. It's always been used by some instead of vtuber. Fuck, throwing "vstreamer" in youtube gave me the first result of this prominent 2020 tutorial with it in the title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPfC-OFyynw

>>50127507
He is talking about their culture, Spanish and Korean lots of loyal viewers but don't want to give others money

>>50127303
Which miia

>>50134582
So destiny is to Pol as asmondgold is to vt?

>>50132288
>just terminally online politics obsessed retards trying to infiltrate a space that typically tries to be apolitical
Nina.... you got called out... just like that...

>>50127189
This. Virtual Creators should be reserved for people like Azumalim.
https://youtu.be/rYLasHKd5QU
https://youtu.be/vRzW0d4IkF8

>>50121495
I really hope this actually takes off and all these types give themselves their own label. Makes it much easier for me to avoid them.

>>50121221
vTUBEr implies youTUBE

>>50131688
>VStreamer predates this stupid shit by years
That's true, but few people actually used that tag. Going by OP, it's more likely that he was wondering why there had been a significant amount of Twitch chuuba switched from VTuber to VStreamer recently

>>50121221
? Its clearly just so that they can seperate themselves from the English vtubers, since Twitch doesn't allow you to search for multiple tags anymore

>>50121221
I hope they use vstreamer in next year's Twitch awards. Those awards do not represent the top vtubers.
vtuber > vstreamer ...vtwitcher etc.

>>50121221
Cucks and sex offenders keep misusing the vtuber tag

>>50122075
I want to punch these faggots right in the face

>>50145090
When will your VTubers win a Tuber award, anon?

>>50122161
Is there any other example? 4-8 of them changing them.

>>50121221
>Virtual youtuber
>Streams on twitch

>>50121221
>>50122075
>>50121495
>Cancer tries to destroy hobby
>Fails, gets kicked around for a while
>Self segregates
How oddly convenient...

>>50150547
https://twitter.com/AnaisBlittz/status/1661120232638021635
https://twitter.com/VtuberKairu/status/1661140289342537728
https://twitter.com/Smutchyyy/status/1661508795678306305
https://twitter.com/merriweatther/status/1661407227557576723
https://twitter.com/angelide01/status/1661420298367795202
https://twitter.com/ShyStrewBerryVT/status/1661027845613965312

>>50152258
>see merriweather
>Wow that's an actual decent size creator, actual schism soon?
>it's some fucking 1view with the same name
I feel like a retard

>>50154248
I mean admittedly its like a small tumor excising itself but still fun to watch and laugh at these freaks

VStreamers do not belong in /vt/

your place here
>> /vs/

>>50159016
i agree with this, vstreamers should be offtopic now.

>>50159016
>>50160074
Twitch whores as a whole should be off-topic.
They are not Youtubers after all.

Neal status?

Why do they all look the same? It's like they were made from a factory...

>>50165157
certain modelers are basically automatic numbers boosters
especially with omochi models

>>50121318
Spbp

Vstreamer has been a term used for a while now even in JP for people who use anime avatars but don't want to associate their content with Vtuber culture. No song covers, no idol stuff, no unicorn pandering.

>>50121580
Twitch tried to push that exact thing a couple of years ago but nobody wanted to use it.

>>50124526
>>50124673
Some vtubers started using xQc and Mizkif tags right back at them.

>>50122075
>remake my carrd which i spent days making
The fuck
Isn't that automatically generated from a list of links? Jeezaz, those zoomers would fucking die if they had to write a static "About" page in (X)HTML.

>>50171638
you're confusing it with linktree
carrd is literally html lol you need to build your own shit

>>50122257
this

>>50122075
>yall
everytime

>>50121221
on twitch? about 2-3 years ago

>>50172258
>you're confusing it with linktree
Well shit, you're right lol
Still, from the screenshots and info on the site it looks like it comes with a straightforward WYSIWYG editor right it the browser. No way it took her "days" to make her site. Bitch is just being overdramatic, like all vtweeters.

>>50122075
>the vtubing equivalent of having pronouns in bio

>>50177946
kek

>>50121495
So they're going full "Here's your sign."? Great, that'll make them easier to identify and avoid.

>>50143796
They should be Vtwitches then